WEBVTT - Survivor Series War Games Fallout 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:10.040 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready, 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:15.760 let's get it all. How's it going, everybody, Brian Alvarez 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.239 here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.799 Monday through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.880 sixth Eastern. Well, it's Tuesday here on this show, and 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.960 we got a lot to get into today, including the 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:34.120 world famous raw reports coming up later on in this program, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.840 fallout from the Survivor series, War Games show, and man, 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.080 they got from now until the end of January. That's 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.040 the next big pay per view, Royal Rumble at the 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.880 end of January, no Day one, So they got a 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:53.360 long long time to build, and that means that, hey, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:58.920 it's a holiday season. People are shopping, doing whatever, So 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.480 you know, they're not going to be the most exciting episodes, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.720 but they're gonna be there and they're gonna do stuff, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.640 and they're gonna have matches. But the big stuff is 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.000 going to be coming in mid to late at January, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.400 and it's kind of a somewhat of a slow holding 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.560 building pattern until then. But we'll talk about the Raw 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:21.520 Report here tonight. We've also got Everybody's favorite show, n 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.440 x T has taken place tonight and we have six 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.640 segments scheduled for the show, including a return to in 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.080 ring action of Die Jeck. We'll tell about all of 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.360 the things coming up on the show. We've got dynamite 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:43.160 ratings from Thanksgiving Eve, which actually did very well considering 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.959 that it was Thanksgiving Eve, which traditionally has not been 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.600 a good night at all for a w but I 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.000 end up doing pretty well. Frankly. We've got Impact into Zone. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.320 They've got a new deal Androd Day has got a 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.480 torn peck and we've got a couple of updates on 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.120 that from US night. Stokely Hathaway talked about plans for 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.920 the firm, which you've gone all asunder. And when I 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:11.720 read the interview quotes from Stokely and you can see 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.320 how things went asunder with the firm because of what 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.160 happened with c M Punk. Imagine how things went asunder 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:24.080 with like m JF and mocks Ley and everybody that 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:28.480 was involved with c M Punk. It was a it 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.640 was quite the tornado. Anyway. Back in a moment with 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:49.600 more Observer live back in the show. Bran Elbarez here, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.480 Wrestling Observer Live, Mike's Umber bv may Or may not 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:59.320 be here today. 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And you know what happens when we 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.839 lose power here in this studio, why we can't do 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:19.360 a show. So hopefully we make it through tonight. But yeah, 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.760 the snow, let me tell you right now, at least 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.000 it's not sticking alright. A couple of news notes here 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.159 we got a lot of news to get into today. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.760 Tonight is everyone's favorite show, n XT. We have got 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:36.640 the participants for the Iron Survivor Challenge matches, which are 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.960 coming up at n XT deadline. They will be revealed 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:47.919 by an eclectic group of legends Sean Michael's xpox, Alundra, 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:55.039 A Blaze, Molly Holly and road Dog. All right, we 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:59.440 have Toxic Attraction Mandy, g g and j C versus 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:05.279 Kata a Chance, Caden Carter and Nikita Lions. And my 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:10.240 presumption is that the baby Faces win pinning Gigi or 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:14.520 j C so that we can get a championship match, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.480 because you don't need to do anything with Mandy, because 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.320 Mandy is gonna be facing the winner of this Iron 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:27.200 Survivor Challenge, this clock filled match coming up. But we 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.080 could use some challengers for for g Actually, I'm sorry 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:37.320 to be for Katan and Kate. They're the champs, who cares. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:42.720 We've also got Rock sand Perez and Indie Heartwell. Fellon 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:48.280 Henley will face Kiana James, the return to action of 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:54.680 Die Jack and Old von Wagner. We'll be facing Malik Blade, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.720 who is in fact the one in the sweater vest 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.840 exactly as I said last week, which Mike ridiculed me 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.480 for not knowing the difference. And he's the one who 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:09.240 didn't know the difference, alike Blade, whose sweater vest was 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.680 destroyed the sweather, the sweater vest that he wears in 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.480 uh you know, in what do they call it? Tribute 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.480 to his father I believe was ripped to shreds by 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:25.400 von Wagner, to the booze of the crowd. Well, tonight 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.080 it's his chancet revenge facing von Wagner. So that's coming 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:33.360 up tonight. I can't wait to talk about tomorrow now. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.760 Last Wednesday was a dynamite and it was the Thanksgiving 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:44.240 Eve episode of the show. And last year did okay, 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:49.960 but the previous two years absolutely died a death on 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:55.680 Thanksgiving Eve, and so I figured that this show would 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:01.000 die a death on Thanksgiving Eve, and in fact it didn't. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.600 The show did eight hundred and eighty thousand viewers, which 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:11.720 astonishingly was up from the week prior. It actually did 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.800 better than the previous Wednesday, eighteen to forty nine, a 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:20.800 point three two rating, up fourteen percent from the prior week, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.640 and the best ratings since the beginning of October. Huge 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:30.160 increase in men eighteen to forty nine, although the women's 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:35.320 audience not good at all. In uh in eighteen to 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:40.120 forty nine males that did a point five zero and 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:45.480 uh and they beat Raw. There were there were several 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:50.800 demos where a E W on Thanksgiving Eve beat Monday 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.599 Night Raw. And I know when you when we mentioned this, 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.880 a lot of people like, ah, doesn't count total viewers, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.880 blah blah blah, and hey, you know whatever, whatever you think. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.920 Councer doesn't count. That's fine. But what matters is these 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.920 ratings came out on Monday afternoon, and it turned out 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:15.920 that Dynamite had beaten RAW in several demos. And it 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:21.559 was moments after these numbers came out that Raw suddenly 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:27.240 announced the first hour is commercial free. No reason to 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.960 go commercial free, no big football game. The reason was 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.040 they got beaten by Dynamite in several demos and they 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.960 can have that happened this week, and so they went 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.800 commercial free in the first hour, which always results in 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:47.240 a large increase. Because I know that this is hard 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:53.760 to believe, but many people tune out during commercials. Uh huh, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.400 So when you don't have commercials, the first hour does 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.679 way better. Now, the bad news is once you put 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.600 the commercials back, then show falls off cliff. And on 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.560 top of that, when you go commercial free in the 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.960 first hour, you have to load up commercials an hour 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:10.480 two and hour three. I I don't watch commercials. I 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.760 I start a little bit late. I skipped through all 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.800 the commercials, and I can get the show. I can 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:20.040 get Raw done in ninety minutes, because if you remove 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:24.360 all of the commercials and all of the video packages, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:29.400 there is thirty every time. It's uncanny, there's thirty minutes 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:34.320 of actual content per hour of RAW. So really, if 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.880 you skip all the commercials and video page and everything, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.720 it's really a ninety minute show, which is not so bad. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:46.880 But anyway, uh, the first hour had no commercials, but 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.080 the second and third hour had commercials, And I skipped 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.960 through the commercials and video packages and I still watched 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.959 the show in ninety minutes, which tells me there were 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.360 way more commercials in the second and third hour than 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.280 there normally are. And when there's more commercials, show falls 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.400 off a cliff even harder. So my prediction for the rating, 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.240 which will probably be out tomorrow, is it Raw is 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.560 gonna have a huge first hour at a massive second 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.640 hour and third hour drop, and that's just the way 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.360 things go. So anyway, we got impact in the zone, 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.040 more news, the raw report, and more after the breaks 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:31.040 will stick around Abserver life in the shack, time the range. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:41.600 But that are the show. Bright Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live. 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.400 I'm an expert at skipping commercials. Somebody mentioned dynamite you 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.199 can get through quickly, but in fact you can't. If 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.960 you if you skip commercials and video packages, you can 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.560 get through raw in ninety minutes, and a W rarely 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.400 has video packages, So if just skip commercials, you get 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.960 through it in ninety minutes. And the reason for that, 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.040 and I guess it's just the sheer number of advertisers 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.800 w w E has compared to a W maybe is 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:16.920 that the raw commercial breaks are all usually three and 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.640 a half minutes or four minutes long every time, and 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.400 with a W the commercial breaks are all about three minutes, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.640 and they have a few that are ninety seconds, and 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.839 so they're they're commercial periods are shorter. So actually, in 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.880 terms of like the amount of content that you get 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:37.720 on a show commercial free video package, free content, Raw 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:42.960 and Dynamite are both about ninety minutes and SmackDown you 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.839 can watch if you skip videos and commercials, you can 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.559 watch all of SmackDown and n x T in an hour, 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.560 because that's how much filler they have on those shows. Now, granted, 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.280 you know you're watching a ninety minute raw on three hours, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.640 and so if you don't skip the commercials and video 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.280 package is bro that's a lot of filler. Ninety minutes 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.800 of filler in a in a three hour show is 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:11.920 what you essentially get. Impact Wrestling and to Zone, Yes, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:16.600 to Zonne still exists, partnering together for an international distribution deal. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.160 They will quote deliver anthems Impact Wrestling to more than 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:29.080 one and seventy countries worldwide, beginning on November twenty nine, UK, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, France, Poland, Spain, Italy, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.080 the Netherlands, what a name for a place, by the way, 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:40.040 the nether Lands, Japan and Brazil. The viewers in these 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:44.040 countries will have access to weekly episodes of Impact Live specials, 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:49.560 select titles from the archives. So Impact and the Zone 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:56.440 are are now working together. Guys remembered his Zone. I 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.160 didn't even know it was still around, but apparently it is. 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.800 So there you go. Who else who's watching the zone, anybody, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:11.000 anybody out there watching his own not disown the zone. Okay, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.160 the zone is still big internationally. I think this person says, Okay, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:20.840 well it's an international deal, so that's great. But I 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.120 haven't heard a lot about his zone lately, but it exists. 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:30.120 Androide wrote on social media that he recently underwent surgery. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.240 Well I'll finish. I'll finish this first torn peg muscle. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.960 He said he suffered the injury a few months ago 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.040 during a match. My first surgery. I can't believe it happened, 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.040 he wrote. A few months ago, I tore my peck. 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.560 Thank god I could have and wanted to finish my match. 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.920 Kept working because I love the business, but we know 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.240 that many people do not value your effort these days off. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.080 I took the opportunity these days off, you can have 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.840 a lot of days off, and took the opportunity to 0:15:55.880 --> 0:16:00.440 go to the doctor. So there was We did observe 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.000 a radio last night, and you know, Dave was talking 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.520 about the torn peck that Cody suffered, and like it's 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:09.440 impossible to miss Cody's torn peck. Andreide claimed, you got 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.440 in a match, but they felt we should have noticed, 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.440 and the fact of the matter is some people did 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.640 in fact go back and they found it. Uh. There 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.520 were a couple of matches that he did and you 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.920 could see that he was very much favoring his arm. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.840 And then there were also some pictures that came up 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.040 and you could see all of the bruising here. So 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.040 it happened. He torus Peck may not have been a 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.320 major off the bone horrible thing, but he definitely put 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:39.800 torres pack and he's undergone surgery and he's going to recover, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:44.000 and then I would guess keep not being on a 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:49.640 w after that fight that he had backstage with Sammy Gavara. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:55.320 So that's the update on him. Stokely Hathaway talked about 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.400 plans the firm had and uh, he said, we were 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:03.120 supposed to erectly feud essentially with see Him Punk. I 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:04.919 was looking forward to that because I was hand chosen 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.440 for the role. Won't go. I don't know the specifics, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.359 but see Him Punk said, Hey, I want to work 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.159 with this guy. Holds a lot of weight. Means a 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.359 lot to me regardless of what has happened and what 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.760 will happen. But of course, when everything happened to see 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.600 him punk plans changed, and he says everyone's just trying 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.119 to do their best and trying to figure out how 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.600 to make this work because the original purpose of the 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:28.800 firm isn't even a purpose anymore. And he talked about 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:35.000 when he was in n x T Stokely. Hathaway said 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.760 he woke up one day in February and felt miserable. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.880 He didn't know where he was or what he was doing, 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.000 and he decided to commit himself to a mental institution 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.520 over three days in Florida. He said it was akin 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.760 to a prison with his cell and restrictions, and then 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.720 after the three days, he thought that maybe he was 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.760 better off mentally than he initially thought. He said he 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.880 didn't tell anyone, couldn't use his phone outside, getting someone 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.960 take care of his dog. He said they didn't do 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.520 much for him in the facility and that the experience 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.640 was not beneficial for him. When he returned, he said 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.359 he had to jump back into things, turned out a 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.240 new contract, left the organization. He also said quoted the 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.760 wrong message came across during his widely seen comedy show 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.320 comments about his time in w w E. And then May, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.280 he made his debut for Double Or nothing, so best 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:26.399 wishes Stokely, super talented guy. And uh it's you know, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.520 like I said the beginning of the show, you know 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:33.000 this Stokely talking about how everything got thrown out of 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:37.800 whack for the firm when se him Punk left And 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:42.040 if you look at how many things were we're thrown 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.760 out of whack. And then you think, you know, MJF 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:49.200 was supposed to feud with Punk prior to all out, 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.160 then he was supposed to feud with Punk after all out. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.359 In both cases see him, Punk first got injured, then 0:18:55.400 --> 0:19:01.600 there was the fight, and so literally there was June, July, August, September, October. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.879 There's six months. And you know how Tony books six 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:11.120 months of storylines which probably were quite intricate, all out 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.800 the window twice because of c. Himpunk, one of which 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.119 was his fault and one of which was not. And 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.520 so if you've been watching a W and I mean, 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.520 we'll have to see, like you know, where things go 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.399 from here. But if you have been watching a W 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.800 for the last six months and you're like, man, this 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.400 thing is just like you know what's going on? This 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.879 is this and this is that and blah blah blah. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:40.400 Six months worth of storylines either directly involving or or 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:46.160 or you know, revolving around C Himpunk. Six months worth 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:50.480 of storylines all out the window. So now that they 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.760 have got m jf is Champion, which I'm pretty sure 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.560 had been the plan, you know, for quite a while, 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.480 perhaps now everything will sort of start to be uh 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.960 and y'all. Stuff to remember, like Tony waited two years 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:09.840 to debut those trios titles and then he immediately he 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.440 waited two years to put them on the Elite, they 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.919 win the titles, and then they're also suspended due to 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.200 the fight and they're gone to three months or whatever. 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.640 So that was another huge arc that it went all 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.720 out the window. So now, with the exception of C 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:30.600 and Punk, everybody's back, and uh, theoretically now we should 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.920 be getting back to what we saw prior to all 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.639 of this hitting the fan, So I guess we shall see. 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.320 By the way has uh and by the yeah, there's 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.760 another one like Adam Cole's injuries. You know, there were 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.080 a lot of storylines involving Adam Cole. I'm sure there 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.920 were a lot of storylines involving hangman, he's out. So yeah, 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.000 that's uh, that is Tony Khan's biggest challenge, and that 0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:00.240 is shifting when things go wrong, because more things went 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.639 wrong in the last six months that ever went wrong 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.399 in the history of a w and uh, it's not 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.080 like an aver gonna happen again. There's always gonna be 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.000 things going wrong. So he's gonna have to figure out 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.679 how to shift when everything goes wrong. And uh, and 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.040 I'm sure that was a very stressful six month period. 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.520 Maybe he'll write about it someday, but probably not. Kylo Riley, 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:28.040 there's another one. Yeah, all right, Um, how many people 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:32.560 have seen the Teddy Hart documentary on Peacock. If you have, 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.960 I would like you to email me Brian at Wrestling 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:42.560 Observer dot com with your short review of it. Um, 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:47.280 I've heard it's it's uh, it's certainly not good. Obviously, 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.760 if you know the story, it's not good. But as 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.760 far as like the the documentary itself, I've had people 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.880 raving about it. I've had people say it's great, it's 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:02.240 a must watch. It is head out of ten people 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:08.000 in wrestling, Uh, contacted me about it and just intrigued. 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.520 And you know, uh, you know, had a few people 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.160 say that, you know, for a long time Teddy Hart 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.080 was just this weird, wacky guy that people laughed at, 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.960 and uh, it's it's you know. Someone here said, you know, 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:21.280 I don't want to watch it because they may be 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.639 glorifying him in some way. The review I got was 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.320 that Teddy Hart was always a weird, wacky guy that 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.639 people kind of laughed at and wrestling. But they're not 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.360 laughing now, so I don't think that he was painted 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.679 in a glorified light in any way. But if you 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.159 have to, if you have, if you watched it, Bryant 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.399 Wrestling Observed dot com, send me a short review and 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:46.879 I will read some of them. Ah after we go 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:52.840 through the world famous Raw report coming up here after 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.840 the break, can also text me four to five seven 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.520 eight zero seven five six six is the phone number 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.679 for to five zero seven s six. We will in 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:07.400 fact have time probably to read some stuff because that 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.960 is the majority of the news here today. A couple 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.399 of text messages before we go to the break, This 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.680 person here says Vince was the one who would suddenly 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.400 unravel a whole storyline for the bill to one pay 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.639 per view. There's no reason why Triple H can't or 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.160 won't still have Sammy with the bloodline a year from now, 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.320 with the split feeling like it's coming, all it takes 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:38.000 is one enjoyable story beat every month or so. Well, Um, 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.320 I don't think it's going on that long because what 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.399 you don't want to do when you have something like 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:47.120 this is overstay. You're welcome, And right now they've hit 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:51.119 on everything, and I think that doing the split around 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:54.160 Montreal and doing that big tag title switch of WrestleMania, 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.919 I think you'd be awesome. Back come up with more 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:16.280 Observer Live. Well back here in the show, Brian Overrez 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:21.719 here Wrestling Observer Live. It is almost time for the 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.080 World of Famous Raw Report, but I would like to 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.840 once more quickly plug at Brian Alvarez sticking up Top 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.200 three days only first, Brian and Vinny co host spot 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.639 all proceeds benefiting Whale Scout, registered five oh one c 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.080 three nonprofit. If you win this auction on eBay, you 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:44.119 will co host with me Vinny Craig. Any Brian and 0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:49.680 Vinny show you want name the show, I may consider 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:53.359 allowing you to choose the show we watch. But it 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.760 ain't gonna be the room. It's not gonna be any 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.760 crap like that. They have wrestling show, and I have 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.640 to okay it. But know what, you might love reviewing 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.320 a double n n x T with me and Vinnie 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.840 drag Or wanted to review full Gear and he did 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:11.240 and it was great, So you get to pick so 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.760 And yes, people have been asking about Oreo co hosting 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.560 this year. I don't know why this came up again. 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:24.520 Actually I know why. Blame my wife. But last year, 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.119 I don't know if you guys remember or not, but 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:30.879 a Oreo got he he was drinking, he drank on 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.560 the show. Then he's acting like an idiot, and then 0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.959 he got a big head, and then the next thing 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:40.200 you know, he's got some stupid Twitter. So I don't 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.920 want Oreo on the show this year, So I ain't 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:47.840 gonna happen. Although he has asked to plead his case, 0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.879 so I I will. I will consider allowing him to 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.400 plead his case, but not on video if he wants, 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.040 if he wants to call in over the next couple 0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.600