1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian. During our top of the hour break, 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: we ran into the green room. We were watching an 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: episode of Dr Phillips. I think he's Batman. Wow, thank god, 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: we're normal. I just think I'm a car doctor. So 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: oh wait I am. That's right. We're perfectly ordinary people. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: The car Doctor, uh corolla, I didn't buy the revoked 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: stater of what I bought the car. I'd like to 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: add it on. Do I go with the dealership? I 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: want to go after market? Well, I like the dealership 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: stuff if I have a preference. Lands. Welcome to the 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and the Car Doctor, since this 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: the garage. Do orders are open? But I am here 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to take your calls at eight five five five six 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: and now he running, and I'm the car Doctor. Start 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: your engines. Hello and welcome eight five five five six 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero the phone. I'm I'm Rond andiny 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: in the car Doctor, and I'm here to help you 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: with your automobile, whatever that might be, and help you 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: to understand it and help you to get more out 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: of it at as efficient price as possibly can be. 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Thanks stopping by today. We know you have a lot 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: of choices out there and a lot of things to 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: do with your time. Were very glad that you take 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: some time to spend with us each and every weekend 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: if you are here for two full hours of Car 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Doctor and to talk about cars and their problems. We've 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: got a big show, a lot of phone calls lined 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: up in Q and I'm not gonna waste any time. 32 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Let's kick the garage doors right open, right away, and 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: let's go and talk to Salix Chevy Camaro and some 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: performance questions. Sal Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir. How 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: can I help? Hey? Ron, how are you good? What's 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: going on? What you got? I got issues? Uh? I 37 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: got a lot o Um. Originally we had set up 38 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: for the track so um we had you know, a 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: big camp, big rear rent and uh pause on it. 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Since then, I've really taking it down quite a notch 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: to put you know, a single plane high rise on 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: it within a fifty and UM I left the cam unfortunately, 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: which I think might be causing some of my problems. 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: At any rate, The real question is I can't get 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: the camp specs. I don't know what what's the time 46 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: of that? I don't know, you know, even way to 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: go with that. Um, I can't get the times, so 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: you probably can't. You probably can't get it to idol, right, 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: And it's probably sloppy coming off the line. Well not 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: only sloppy coming off the line, but it's it's uh, 51 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: it's stumbling. Yeah, it kind of falls on its face. Yeah, 52 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: it's something on acceleration. And um, when it gets hot, 53 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: it's impossible to start. It just will outside. I got 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: ready for the pools out, so I'm sure I thought 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: of it as timing. But um, I'm worried if I 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: have a vacuum problem. Well let me let me explain 57 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: it to you like this. I remember, you know, I 58 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: remember as a kid, we always wanted bigger and better. 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: You know, we always thought bigger cams were better and 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: bigger heads were better. And you know, the bigger it was, 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: the faster it would go and the more power it 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: would make. And the way Billy explained it to me, 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: my boss at the time, uh, he said to me, 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: he said, go stand in front of a doorway with 65 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: a breeze blowing and I and I did, and he said, 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: now opened the door, and I did, and it kind of, 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, you get a breeze in the face, it 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: it's sort of it hits you in the kisser, right. 69 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: And then he said, now imagine you take that doorway, 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: that same doorway, and he said, put a fan on 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: the other side of the door, and opened the door. 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: And the fan if the strong, if it's strong enough, 73 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: it knocks you over. And when he was and he 74 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: was right, and his his point was it's all about 75 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: air flow. And in an engine, which is just a 76 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: big air pump, the piece that is really where the 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: airflow starts. And this was thinking back in the late 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: sixties early seventies and lots changed them, a lot of 79 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: researches has coming gone. Is the cam is the heart 80 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: and soul the engine. So if the cam was designed 81 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: to flow to four barrels at high rpm at the 82 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: track in a in a performance application, because where's the 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: power band of the engine coming in? Right, Why are 84 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you trying to take a doorway that's designed for a 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: big giant fan and make it work with a doorway 86 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: without a fan with mismatched components you'll spend the rest 87 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: of your work. I hope you weren't gone. Yeah, you know, 88 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you'll listen. I get it, you know what. 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: I I'm gonna tell you something. Black my hot rod, 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: all right, it's a small block. It was it was. 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: I was there when we when we gave it birth 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: on the Dino. I saw the torque curve. I know 93 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: where the where the RPM band is. I understand. All right. 94 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Black sounds really neat with open headers. It just kind 95 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: of rumps along. And when you're pulling into the cruise night, 96 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: a black fifty five barking with open headers just sounds 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: really neat, and people turn their heads. The cars faster 98 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: when I close the headers. When I corked the headers, 99 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: it's when I corked the headers, it's for you know, 100 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: when I plug them up, the car goes faster, it 101 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: pulls harder. Uh, it's it's got more whacked to it. 102 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: It just it just is because it's designed to run 103 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: that way. When we you know, when we ran in 104 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: on the Dino, we jetted it one way and then 105 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: we jetted it another way, and we played with a 106 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: few things, and I saw the difference, and I made 107 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: the commitment to drive it with headers closed, really, because 108 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: where is it going to spend most of its life? 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: Headers closed? So you know, I understand it's cool, it's neat. 110 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: It's you know, the older we get, the faster we 111 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: were in high school, all right, you know, because our 112 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: our our memories gone. We don't remember things as clearly 113 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: as we'd like to. And we just hope that you know, 114 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: that's you know, I've always had that beer billy. That's 115 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: the way it was. Uh well, dude, listen, I got 116 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: the same problem. It's you know, it's but we've got 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: to face reality. You know. One of the things I 118 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: walked away with and I and I never forgot this 119 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: is when I was a kid and I was I 120 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: was surrounded. I was really blessed to be around some 121 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: of the smartest guys in the industry, you know, racing 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: cars at the time. And and I always remember this. 123 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: I was that kid that I said, well, you know, 124 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: if I had an oil pane, it will go faster, 125 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: and if I put ladder bars on, it will go faster. 126 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: And if I do this, it'll go faster. And da 127 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: da da da da da, And they would all look 128 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: at me and they'd go. Remember this, A lot of 129 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: research went into that car to make it run the 130 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: way it did out of the factory, by a lot 131 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: of engineers, and then you have to make progressive changes. 132 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: Mild goes wild was the expression. And that's that's fifty 133 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: six years old, and I never forgot that. And you 134 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: look at some of the fastest cars you knew in 135 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: your in your youth, and I know, some of the 136 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: fastest cars I know when I was a kid, Some 137 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: of the fastest cars were close to or stock out 138 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: of the factory that were just you know, massaged machine 139 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: modified slightly that they just worked on them a little 140 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: bit to kind of tweak a little bit more out 141 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: of it. Because this was the day of mechanical stuff. 142 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: There was no nitrous, there was no chip in the car, 143 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: there was no you know the way we see things today, Yeah, 144 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: turbos and all that. You it was just it was 145 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: a different time and a different era. So when people say, hey, 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: I want something, I want to be the fastest car 147 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: in the valley, man, that's really hard. Today. You know, 148 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: you can't be the fastest car in the valley anymore. 149 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: It's just the valley's gotten too big and there's too 150 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: much diversification, So you know it's it's it's I'd start, well, well, 151 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: i'd take a look at the heads you have on it. 152 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: I would take a look at what heads do you 153 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: have on it? What rocker arms are you running? In 154 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: other words, that I'm thinking rock arms, what ratio rocker arm? 155 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: All right? And and then I would talk about the cam, 156 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: and I would I would sit down, and then I 157 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: would look at the intake manifold that you really want 158 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: to run. And then I would look at the size 159 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: of the car. Do you really need an eight fifty. 160 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you do, and I'm not saying you don't, 161 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: but it's airflow. Think of standing in front of that door. 162 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: Billy always said, you want to be able to open 163 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: the door and at least get through it without getting 164 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: knocked over. And if you have too big of a 165 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: fan or two mull of a door or two wide 166 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: of a door and the air flows wrong, you got 167 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: a problem. And and I know I got a problem. Right, 168 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: So you know before you you've probably got some big 169 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: rump seven fifty lift cam with some crazy duration and 170 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know it's it's great on the 171 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: street because once you get that thing wound up to 172 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: about five six grand. Yeah, it's great. It pulls, It 173 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: pulls like a horse. But getting it there is a 174 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: big problem because all the air is coming in and 175 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: there's turbulence and there's all kinds of things going on. 176 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: So what do you what do you feel about the uh? 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: The stammering on acceleration. Um, I would solve the cam 178 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: problem first. What what what heads do you have on 179 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: this car? Sound? They're a littmitum open chambers? Okay, so 180 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: the aluminum open chamber head? And what compression ratio are 181 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: you running? Uh? Last I heard it was years ago, 182 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: but they were about thirteen and one, so you've got Okay, 183 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: so you're running a piston and compression ratio for those 184 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: that don't understand, is it's it's how much squeeze gets 185 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: put into the the fuel mixture in the cylinder before 186 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: the spark plug ignites it and expands to compress it. 187 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: The more you compress it, the tighter it goes boom, 188 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: the bigger the explosion. So you're running. Now are you running? 189 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: Are you running pump gas or what kind of fuel 190 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: are you putting in this camp? Two? Okay, so are 191 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: you gonna always run Cam two. Cell, I have to. 192 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: I can't let it through that note. Are you trying 193 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: to be the fastest car in the valley, Cell, No, 194 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be the Actually what I did was 195 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: I tried to detO in the car because I wanted 196 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: to drive it on the street. Okay, And that's basically 197 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: my my what I'm looking for, um my problem. I 198 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: go to a stoplight and the car wants to stall 199 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: without me feathering the gas right because it's got no 200 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: vacuum at idle and and it's it's it's got the 201 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: wrong car, the wrong cam. It's just a mess. So 202 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: you can do this, well, well, well I would put 203 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: the tunnel ram back on in a smaller cam and 204 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: it would look really neat all. Right, you know it's 205 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: it's what are we chasing? Listen, there was a guy. 206 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a quick story and then I'm gonna go. 207 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: There was a guy up here in Rockland County, Nicki 208 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: d Ambrosia. I don't know whatever happened to him. He 209 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: was what he was. He was Again, I was blessed. 210 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: I was surrounded by geniuses, I really was, And I 211 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: put I had this crazy idea as a kid, I 212 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: took a two eighty three. I took a two eighty 213 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: three um crank and a three seven block, and I 214 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: built myself a three oh two. I made a four 215 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: by three uh small block Chevy. And then somebody needed 216 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: rent money one day and they had a six sixty 217 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: double squirter holly intake tunnel ram set up and I 218 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: bought it. I paid like a hundred and fifty bucks 219 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: for At the time was, you know, six sevens I 220 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: didn't know it was a racing manifold. Nobody told me that. 221 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: I bolted it to the car. It was really cool 222 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: I had. I had a primary grade fifty five Chevy 223 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: with a tunnel ram sticking out through the hole in 224 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: the hood. Right, I couldn't make it run worth dutally? 225 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: All right. I walked into Nikki's one day up on 226 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: roof fifty nine in Rockland County, and he knew me 227 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: from somewhere, I forget where. And we got to talking 228 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: and he said, it just doesn't sound right, and he 229 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: spent an hour with me and we tuned it, and 230 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: we kind of cut back on everything. We de tuned 231 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: it all right. That car ran so strong going home. 232 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to get off the thru way. And 233 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 1: you know, it's just that's the way it is. So 234 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: de tune the car a little bit before you figure 235 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: out how to make it run like this. Make it 236 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: run a little slower so you can catch up to 237 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: it and understand it. And in your case, your problem, though, 238 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: is one is not gonna really cut it. The cam's 239 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: not gonna cut it. The heads are wrong because they're 240 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: designed for high flow. You might as well pull the 241 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: motor out, stick it in the corner in the garage, 242 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: all right, Tell your wife, listen, honey, I'm saving money. 243 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Go down to the Chevy store. Buy a crate motor, 244 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Go buy a go buy a five oh two big 245 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: designed for the street or something sticking in there with 246 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: a single four barrel, and you know what, you'll be 247 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: cheaper in the long run. Have fun. It's you know, 248 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: it's say that motor. Give that motor to your kids, 249 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: if you have any. If you don't have some kids 250 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: to give the motor to. I mean, that's really what 251 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: it's all about. But you're you're you're trying to fly. 252 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: You're trying to fly, you know, a jumbo jet on 253 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: the back of a biplane and it's just not gonna work. 254 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: So um, think about it. Sal, you got my number. 255 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: You know where I am. Call me if you got 256 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: any other questions. I gotta go there. They're looking at me. 257 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock. I enjoyed the conversation. I 258 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: got the Yeah, I got to relive some things from 259 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: the past. You take good care, Sal, You're very welcome. 260 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: I'm Ronny. In the car doctor. We're back right after this. 261 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: Whether it's a little red Corvette or you go, you've 262 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: come to the right place to get that car fixed. 263 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: In the car doctor, five five five zero zero zero. 264 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: Now back to ron Let's go over to Maine and 265 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: talk to Micaha and in the car doctor. Rate your service, sir, 266 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: How can I help? Well? Ron, I wanted to follow 267 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: up so that people knew what finally happened with my 268 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: car battery. And also I wanted to respectfully disagree with 269 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: something you said last week. Uh, power frame grid technology. 270 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: I searched all over for We talked about it a 271 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: little bit or through email, and I went to every 272 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: high quality auto parts store in the area, and they 273 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: just don't seem to make a powerframe grid technology battery 274 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: in group twenty five in a group they don't have 275 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: it for your car. That's correct, right, Well that's what 276 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: we found out. I agree, right, So I went with 277 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: another battery and everything's fine. And then in three and 278 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: a half years, when they finally make it for a 279 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: group twenty five and I have to replace it again, 280 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: we'll go with the power frame grid technology. But I 281 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: just thought that the audience people who might be shopping 282 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: here that might need to know that not all battery 283 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: groups are made are available with power frame grid technology. 284 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: It should definitely get it. If it's available too. Well, 285 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what not all battery groups have 286 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: a gold rating of silver rating A plus a minimum. 287 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: It's it's really kind of funny how the engineers designed 288 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: it that they get to a certain size for a 289 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: certain vehicle, for a certain cold cranking amps, and they 290 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: cut it off at the knees. Sometimes there aren't choices 291 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: to up, upsize or downsize a battery rating. So yeah, 292 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: and it's it's it was interesting. I actually learned that 293 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware that power frame is not available in 294 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: all group sizes until you're a particular car. So um, 295 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, I get it. At least you got a battery. 296 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: What else? What are we arguing about today, Mica. We're 297 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: not arguing, but we're going to discuss a little bit 298 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: about the remote starters. Last week you said, when you 299 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: were talking to someone about remote starters, you said, go 300 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: with the O E M one if you can, that 301 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: they they'll work the best. And I have found that 302 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily true. Uh. What I found with all 303 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: the O e M starters that I have dealt with, 304 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: and I've dealt with quite a few helping buy them, 305 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: and what happens is that they're designed so that you 306 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: can start the car twice. It run up to twice, 307 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: it'll run for the pre program set about a time 308 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: which really can't be changed, and maybe ten minutes of 309 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and then you can't restart it again if 310 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: you need to let it run for a long time, 311 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: which you do up here in Maine, if you're parked 312 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: outside and you need to help defrost the car and 313 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: get the snow off the car, etceteran. So on. The 314 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: other thing that happens with the O E M remote 315 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: that every manufacturer that I've seen does is that when 316 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: you O E M started and you unlock the car, 317 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: to get inside, the engine shuts off and you've got 318 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: to go back inside and restart it. They do that 319 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: for some kind of safety reason. And the O E 320 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: m's kind of remind me of the days and we're 321 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: the same age, the same vintage. Back in the nineteen seventies, 322 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: I worked for Crazy Eddies, and Crazy Eddie sold car 323 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: stereos and you could get an O M car stereo 324 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: that might have a cassette de game it, but you 325 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: couldn't get all the features that you wanted, and so 326 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: you put in an aftermarket one and you found a 327 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: good install It did a good job, and you had 328 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: so many more features and abilities. And in the aftermar 329 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: could remote starters. I can turn on my rear window 330 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: defrost with it. I can start it from up to 331 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: a mile away if I need to, so it'll be 332 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: ready for me when I get there. I can let 333 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: it run, set it to run for as long as 334 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: I need for it to run. And I can tell 335 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: remotely that it started or if it's not started, or 336 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: if there's a problem with it. But here's they just 337 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: don't get that with the O E M right now. 338 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: But here's the catch, okay, And this is why I 339 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: prefer O E M over aftermarket. The way the electronics 340 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: are going in the cars, that O E M starter 341 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: is generally a plug in play. It's we just did it. 342 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: We just did a remote start in a Subaru. We 343 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: bought the kid from Subaru. We unplugged the harness, plugged 344 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: in the remote start kit. There was no cutting, there 345 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: was no splicing, there was no soldering, and we programmed 346 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: it to accept remote start and the car was done. 347 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: Whereas the aftermarket kits and what I'm seeing is due 348 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: to installer error, and that's some of it. And granted 349 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: the the installer is responsible for some of it, but 350 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: it's either installer error or the way the wires have 351 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: to be connected to individual wires body computers, controllers and such. 352 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: It's not as clean and as sloppy and effortless of 353 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: an install So my my my line of thinking is 354 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: what's more important to me to be able to turn 355 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: on a rear wiper blade when I want to because 356 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm not in the car at that moment and I 357 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: respect that, okay, Or do I want to be able 358 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: to know that it's gonna last the life and the 359 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: length of service of the vehicle such that I don't 360 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: have to deal with you know, something went bad, the 361 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: manufacturer went out. I dropped the key remote five years later, 362 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: and I can't get a replacement part because they don't 363 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: make that particular model anymore. And with the changes in electronics, 364 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: it's changing so fast that I'm always thinking about replacement parts. 365 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: So maybe I've got a trade off being able to 366 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: restart the car for that third time to know I've 367 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: got longevity. If I keep the car ten years, I 368 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: can always get parts for it. So I get it, Micah, 369 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: I understand. I get where you're coming. Um Um. I've 370 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: just got a little bit of a different perspective, and 371 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm always just thinking about sooner or later it's gonna break, 372 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: and you know, somebody's gotta fix it. As always, brother, 373 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate hearing from you. You have a good rest 374 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: of the day up there in Maine, and uh we 375 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: always look forward to your comments. I'm running any in 376 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: the car Doctor five zero nine zero zero. We're back 377 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away? Ye, hey, welcome back. 378 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: Why don't any of the car doctor rolling along at 379 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: a five zero nine zero zero. 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Que to get to talk to me specifically, 395 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: and you wanted to talk to Tom for very long, 396 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I promise, So I love you Tom. Let's get on 397 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: over and talk to Glenn and San Francisco two thousand 398 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: one GMC and some problems with smock. Glenn, Welcome to 399 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? Yes, Uh, let's 400 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: call it regarding my two thousand one g m C. 401 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: It's been uh none up for the last several years. 402 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: I've gone out and started that once in a while, 403 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: but during that time the battery went dead. And and 404 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: now I've decided to take it in and get it 405 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: running again and have it smugged. And the mechanic tells 406 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: me that the computer module needs to be reset, and 407 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: there's three functions that need to be reset, and he's 408 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: been able to reset two of them, but you can't 409 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: get the third one to reset. And it's been several 410 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: weeks now that he's basically what he's told me is 411 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: that it just needs to be driven around and for 412 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: it to reset. I'm wondering he's talking about it's not 413 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: running monitors. Does he say the word monitors or does 414 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: he say does he say? How does he describe into 415 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: you he's talking about Yeah, yeah, he can't. He cannot 416 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: connect to his diagnostic machine to it because of the 417 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: computer won't reset. Ok, you can't read it. He can't 418 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: read it. Does he say which one won't reset? He 419 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: hasn't told I would have. I haven't told as him 420 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: that yet, but no, so let me just let me 421 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: how do you go about it? So let me let 422 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: me let me explain it to you like this, Glenn, 423 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: all right, and I'm and I'm taking a little bit 424 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: of a a poke in the dark here because I 425 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: think we've got the right terminology, but we don't have 426 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: enough information. Um, you went to high school, right, what 427 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: was your worst subject? Did you have a bad subject? Math? Math? Okay? 428 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: Did you take every math test? Did you complete every 429 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: math test? Did you? Did you? Did you pass every 430 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: math test? Okay? So your math test is like your 431 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: car's computer. Your car's computer has several subjects or several 432 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: areas that it it has to test and identify each 433 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: and every moment that it's working and running the vehicle. 434 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: All right, we call the monitors and it's it's the 435 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: the monitor or the computer self test of those particular functions, 436 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: and it varies from year, make model. The most common 437 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: ones are, uh, it's it's checking misfire monitors the vehicle misfiring. 438 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: It's checking catalytic converter state, is checking evaporative emissions, it's 439 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: checking O two censor activity. And the list goes on 440 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: and on. Depending upon the ear making model. There could 441 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: be anywhere from a minimum of six to you know, 442 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: probably as many as fourteen, depending upon the type and 443 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: make of car. My suspicion is that the test that 444 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: your computer isn't able to complete is evaporative emissions. And 445 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: that's what I want you to go back and ask 446 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: your mechanic if it's EVAPP. Evaporative emissions is the measurement 447 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: of is the fuel tank, is the fuel system sealed 448 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: so that no fumes come out into the atmosphere, and 449 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: it is acknowledgeing it is the hardest test. Well, it's 450 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: one of the harder tests to get the vehicle to take. 451 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: It's sort of like a vance mathematics. It doesn't really 452 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: want to complete because it's afraid of the answer. So 453 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: this car sat for a while, you said, all right, 454 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: So the fact that this car sat for a while, 455 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: a couple of months, a year, two years, okay. So 456 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: one of the biggest failures of the EVAPP systems is 457 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: something called a vent solenoid, all right. And what happens 458 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: is I don't know why, but spiders like to crawl 459 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: up inside vince solenoids and build spider webs and they 460 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: do all kinds of nasty things in there. I think 461 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: it's where they have baby spiders. And vince solenoids have 462 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: been known to become clogged, restricted, not worked properly, not 463 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: sealed properly, and they in general were probably the weakest 464 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: link in the vehicle in that system. So you know, 465 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: if you could ask him, hey, you know, I talked. 466 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: I talked to the car doctor, and I want to 467 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: know what what monitor is not running? Which will probably 468 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: rattle this cage when he hears monitor, Um, not so much, 469 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: card doctor, And you know, is it the evapp system? 470 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: If he says it's the evapp system, then you know, 471 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: let's diagnose it, all right, and and and we can 472 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: talk about that. So in an EVAPP system. Do you 473 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: live in a house or an apartment? Okay? Do you 474 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: have a front door and the back door? Perfect? So 475 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: the gas tank in your in your truck, all right, 476 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: you have a gas tank, you have a purge valve, 477 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: you have a vent valve, front door, back door. The 478 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: gas tanks in the middle, the houses in the middle. 479 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: When the air in the house has to be you know, 480 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: when there's the air in the house, you know you're 481 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: cooking something and you know that in the inside you're 482 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: you're making let me say, what can we We're making 483 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts, all right, and all of a sudden it 484 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: stinks inside the house. You gotta get some mayre in 485 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: there while you open up the front door. It's not enough. 486 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: You gotta open up the back door the front door, 487 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: so the air comes through and scavenges all the fumes 488 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: out of the house and takes it out the front door. Right, 489 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: same thing with your car, all right. There's a vent 490 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: valve which is in the back of the gas tank, 491 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: and there's a purge valve which is in the front 492 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: of the gas tank, and it's attached to the engine. 493 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: When the computer says at the right moment, hey, there's 494 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: so many fumes in the in the tank, or there's 495 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: too many fumes in the charcoal canister, which is the 496 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: filter which we really haven't talked about yet. We want 497 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: to remove all the fumes. It opens up the doors 498 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: and it allows fresh air to be pulled through and 499 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: gets the fumes into the engine where it can burn. Now, 500 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the goal is, we don't want to let the bed 501 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts smell go out into the atmosphere. We don't 502 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: want to let the fuel fumes go out into the atmosphere. 503 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: So it will it will close either the back door 504 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: the front door in particular times and and pull a vacuum. 505 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 1: Is the system got integrity is it is it's sealed 506 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: to atmosphere. If if it doesn't pass that test, you 507 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: fail math and the car doesn't get an inspection sticker. 508 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: Makes sense. So so if we're trying to fix EVAP, 509 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: we've got to find out what are the parameters to 510 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: make that EVAP monitor run. And here's what I'm gonna 511 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: leave you with. If you've got more than three quarters 512 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: of a tank of fuel or less than a quarter 513 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: tank of fuel, the EVAP monitor will never ever run, 514 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: period done. It's just it's in the programming of the 515 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: majority of vehicles out there on the road today. So 516 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: if they can just saying just drive the car. Listen, brother, 517 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: you can start in San Francisco and end up in 518 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: waldenp New Jersey. I'll buy you a coffee, and the 519 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: monitors still not gonna run. If you always have more 520 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: than three quarters of a tank or less than a 521 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: quarter tank of fuel, it's just never gonna happen. So 522 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: ask him what monitor we're trying to run, and ask 523 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: him what conditions need to be set before the monitor 524 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: will run successfully. Let's see how he answers that question. 525 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: Call me back next week, all right, thank you? All right? 526 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You take good care. Five zero nine 527 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: zero zero. I help your Brussels sprouts come out good tonight, America. 528 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: I'll run an Indian the car doctor. I'll be back 529 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: right after this fucking back on any of the car 530 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: doctor here. Let's get over and talk to where are 531 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: we going? One or two to Let's go to to 532 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: Let's go to Robin, Tennessee to explorer Rob. How can 533 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: I help you? Sir? Oh? Yes, something an issue similar 534 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: to the last color the code zero zero four four three, okay, problem. Yeah, 535 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: I did some trouble shooting on it, and I removed it, 536 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: and I thought it had a you know, so electrically 537 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: operated solenoid develops in it, and I applied TOIL votes 538 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: to it and it didn't make any sound. So I 539 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: replaced it in the code reset and I checked the 540 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: voltage on the line feeding it, and it's you know, 541 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: varying some five to thirteen votes, which you know, kind 542 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: of cycling, which I think is supposed to. So I 543 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: didn't know where to go from here. Okay, So, so 544 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: you've got a P zero four four three of Vapor 545 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: Management VMV solenoid fault correct. So the v M v 546 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: is located under the battery tray. Yes, I replaced it, 547 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: all right, Do you still have the old one? No? Unfortunately, 548 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: all right, we have to stop throwing out the old part. 549 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not yelling at you specifically, Rob, but 550 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: everybody does this. You know when I you know, when 551 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: I throw the parts out at the shop about ten 552 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: days after the car is gone. Not that I doubt 553 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: what I do, but you know, the weirdest things come 554 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: up and you just need to look at an old 555 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: part for some reason. It's just it's just it's just 556 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: a good idea to keep it. Yeah, when I applied 557 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: toil volts to it, I thought I had a soul 558 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: in the wold velve in it. But I don't believe it, 559 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: does you know? I think it's a vacuum operated, isn't it? Well, no, 560 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: there should be there should be electrical there. There should 561 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: be this should have two hoses, one in, one out 562 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: and then electrical connection. That's got a hot and the 563 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: computer applies ground when it wants to open or clothes. Well, 564 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: there's a there's a vacuum. Vacuum ho was on the 565 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: bottom of it? Okay? Right? And there is there actually 566 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: is a third vacuum hose underneath it, but it's it's 567 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: that the one that actuates it. Um No, this is 568 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: electrically actuated. This is this is the computer. Four three 569 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: suggest that the PCM, the power chain control module, is 570 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: seeing an electrical control fault of that solenoid. That it's 571 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: it's not seeing it activate. It's not seeing it's it's 572 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: it changed state or there's a fault in the electrical 573 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: circuit itself. Okay. I removed the old one and tests. 574 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sound either, okay, and you know 575 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: the resistance on it, it's like thirty three ohms, which 576 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: is right, you know? Correct? Okay, So do this. There's 577 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: a red wire. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give 578 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: you two simple tests and then i'm gonna let you go. 579 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna call me back next week. There's a red 580 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: wire at the v M V valve right if you 581 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: turn the key on in the run position. Doesn't have 582 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: battery voltage. I don't remember, but when I started it 583 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: without it plugged in, and you know, it had volted 584 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: showing it, it was very you know, cycling like from 585 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: like five votes votes. Okay, I think it's what it's well, 586 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: hang on a second. You you turn the key to 587 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the run position. That red wire should have a solid, 588 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: a solid reading of battery voltage. It's not supposed to cycle. 589 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: Just that that red wire just one end to the 590 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: negative battery post, one end to the the positive end 591 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: to the red wire. You should read battery voltage. We 592 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: also recently, I've not been able to seal the gas 593 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: pink almost all the way. Do we want to go? 594 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: Let's let's stay at the front of the car a minute, 595 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: all right, So you know, you want to make sure 596 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: you have power at that red wire. It shouldn't be cycling, 597 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: all right. The there's a light green black wire at 598 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: the v m V that's the ground side. It comes 599 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: off the power train control module Pin fifty six. You 600 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: want to make sure that you have continuity at the 601 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: v m V, at the vapor management valve solenoid under 602 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the battery tray back to the PCM that you've got 603 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: continuity there. If you do, that's the electrical circuit it 604 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: then we can have a conversation. Does the PCM isn't 605 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: able to turn it on? Turn it off? And so 606 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: forth to the can't fuel up the car problem? That 607 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: could be all right, that could be related to this. 608 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: But before we even have that conversation and I make 609 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: sure we're working electrically, that could be an issue. Back 610 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: at the neck, inside the fuel neck on that vehicle 611 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: is an inner sleeve inside the fuel neck, and they're 612 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: known to pull off over time and create enough back 613 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: pressure that it pops the pump. Do you have to 614 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: turn the pump nozzle around upside down and kind of 615 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: jump a little bit to get it so when you 616 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: say it doesn't, When you say you have a hard 617 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: time putting fuel in it, what does it do? I 618 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: don't have a hard time putting fuel in the gas gates. 619 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: You know it's only going to maybe SABL eights fuel. 620 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: Now seem like it all started when this code sit okay, Um, 621 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: that dovent valve on the back of the tank, it 622 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: has a different code, doesn't it correct? You're dealing You're 623 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: dealing with it. You're dealing with a V M V fault, 624 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: which in English is a purge. It's a it's the 625 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: front door. Remember the analogy I gave I gave the 626 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: gentleman from San Francisco, Um, your your car is setting 627 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: a front door fault code? For the EVAP system. Okay, 628 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: so the red wires should have twelve volts the switch 629 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: the switch on and not started right ignition, Yeah, kon 630 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: engine not running, you should have twelve vaults there and 631 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: then that light green black. Now that light green black 632 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: goes back to the PCM. Don't put any voltage to it. 633 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: Don't do anything else other than find pin fifty six 634 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: at the right connector of the PCM and check resistance 635 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: between the two. And that way we know that the 636 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: computer can control it shouldn't want to, all right, and 637 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: then call me back next week and we'll talk about 638 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: this further. That's your assignment this week. Rob eight zero 639 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: nine zero. The car doctors back right after this, Welcome back. 640 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: Why don't any of the car doctor rolling along at 641 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: a zero zero Mike in Massachusetts Chevy Silverado. How can 642 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: I help? Sir? Hi Ron, longtime listener had a question 643 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: for you. Get a four team, sill A, while it's 644 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: a not a crew cabinet. Is a four door, it's 645 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: four wheel drive, and um, when it's fifty degrees and 646 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: warmer out if I take the current of the truck 647 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: on the inter State and I'm driving, say between sixty 648 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: to sixty five or higher in miles per hour. It vibrates. 649 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: Now it's not the steering wheel, it's not that doesn't 650 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: feel like it's the rear wheels um. But you can 651 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: definitely feel it in the cab itself that the entire 652 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: vehicle does shake only when it's warm fifty degrees that's correct? 653 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: Is it just there? I took the truck, I took 654 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: I took the truck to uh to a Hampshire trip 655 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: when it's super super cold out and took it for 656 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: a three hour ride up to New Hampshire. Wife and 657 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: I went on vacation. Didn't have any issues when it 658 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: was on the interstate, did not vibrate, did not have 659 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: any problems with it. My first react and as it 660 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: has to be tires well, so we went down that 661 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: path with the dealer and what happened was I want 662 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: the truck about a year and a half ago at 663 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: a at a local dealership, running back to the same 664 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: place we had the tires. High speed balance was one 665 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: and then it was still doing the same thing. We 666 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: took it back and they wrote force balanced the tires also, 667 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: so the same problem occurred. And then what I did 668 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: was I have a buddy who's got a four team Silverado, 669 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: who's got a crew cab full four doors. I took 670 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: the tires off of his truck put them on my truck. 671 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: He doesn't, and and there's no difference. Okay, So it's 672 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: not tires now. So at sixty five in cold weather, 673 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: if you're rolling along, you've got this vibration. If you 674 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: put it into neutral and coast, does the vibration change now, 675 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: It's still stays. And also what I've done too is, uh, 676 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: it's got a pill option on the vehicle as well. 677 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: And when I switched it over to Coe, it still 678 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: does the same thing. And the other part, the other 679 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: thing I do is it's got a mean option for 680 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: the transmission and I you sit in annually and does 681 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: the same things. All right, Mike, you sit tight. I'm 682 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: gonna take this call off air until we get past 683 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: the news. At the top of the hour, I'm running 684 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor, reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, 685 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you