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Speaker 1: when we're talking about a legend, when we talk about
Speaker 1: ball lord, a ball warrior, when we talk about a
Speaker 1: person that went to war for his whole team, went
Speaker 1: to went against the whole other team with that on
Speaker 1: his back. At this time or from from his state,
Speaker 1: all we heard was Will Smith. We didn't hear of
Speaker 1: all that he came and he changed the trajectory that
Speaker 1: in Junior Mafia, I'm talk about the real dream of
Speaker 1: my field. Um Uh, this guy has countless repeated hits,
Speaker 1: repeated classic records, repeated classic albums, has still the test
Speaker 1: of time and it's still here. We've been waiting to
Speaker 1: get him on dream Chat for five years. Since day one,
Speaker 1: we've been kind of get him so he for some
Speaker 1: reason he wouldn't come out. But then, you know what,
Speaker 1: I had to tell him, come outside. He's been outside
Speaker 1: ever since, and that it's a beautiful thing because he
Speaker 1: understood what I meant by that, And you know what
Speaker 1: you know, Um, with everything that's going on with you
Speaker 1: know legends, now's the time for the legends. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. In any other genre and any other music,
Speaker 1: they have the uh, they don't have a word called
Speaker 1: washed up or have a word called bend over. Hip
Speaker 1: Hop is the only genre of music that deals to
Speaker 1: even have this terminology. And I want to change that trajectory.
Speaker 1: I want to change that concept. I want to change
Speaker 1: that perspective because when you got these years in the game,
Speaker 1: you are seasoned. Use a motherfucking legend. The person that's
Speaker 1: sitting behind me is I'm sitting to the left of
Speaker 1: me as a motherfucking legend, and it's about time that
Speaker 1: he gets his motherfucking flowers on motherfucking drink chest. Even
Speaker 1: if in the case you don't know what the funk
Speaker 1: we're talking about, we're talking about be motherfucker's see cross,
Speaker 1: then you definitely need your flowers. Man. Um you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, just going through your discography obviously because two reasons,
Speaker 1: you know, one because um, we're doing this interview and
Speaker 1: the other because I want to smash you later. This
Speaker 1: is no, but no, no, I'm that serious. No, because
Speaker 1: this is about giving your flowers on some real ship.
Speaker 1: You know, you are really like you really like one
Speaker 1: of them scarface type of guys. Like, like, what I
Speaker 1: mean by that is you don't drop an album unless
Speaker 1: the whole album is entirety. How do you come up
Speaker 1: with something like that? I don't know. I just it's
Speaker 1: a feeling you are feeling. You know, all my music
Speaker 1: comes from and here, so it's crazy because it's funny.
Speaker 1: You I really think, you know, the only out of
Speaker 1: my albums that I did, it was the only one
Speaker 1: album that I really felt is though, that I really
Speaker 1: completed you know, Yeah, yeah that I really I was.
Speaker 1: I was, I was I was saying I was happy
Speaker 1: with and that was the becoming really yeah, so not
Speaker 1: the truth, not no reason or the be coming, but
Speaker 1: the be Coming always kind of reminded me of like
Speaker 1: your album to State Property too. Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, because of that, that's crinture was from the
Speaker 1: State Property too. Yeah, movie though, right, okay, okay, get
Speaker 1: the album covering. Yeah, but when I was doing it
Speaker 1: becoming R had a lot of legal issues. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know, I was on h I was on House
Speaker 1: and Rusts on prea trout. You know, I had attempted
Speaker 1: murdering the state and I had a federal gun charge,
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, I was. I was. I was on
Speaker 1: House and Rush for pre trout for I think about,
Speaker 1: and I was using much to becoming. Okay, cool, that's
Speaker 1: the one you said you feel like you didn't plea Yeah,
Speaker 1: ok yeah, I'll tell you. I'll tell you a funny story.
Speaker 1: Know if you remember this, I'm sure you do. But
Speaker 1: at one point Dame Dash got everyone to come to you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was your trial over, it
Speaker 1: was a court date, and I'm talking about everyone went
Speaker 1: run up, Like I guess he will provide vans or
Speaker 1: you know, service and we will all go up there
Speaker 1: and we will go to your court. And then one
Speaker 1: day after the court. This is like some real this
Speaker 1: is this is some real, real Needo Brown ship. We
Speaker 1: went to your house and then your house you had
Speaker 1: a goddamn alligator. You had an alligator walking like you
Speaker 1: know how Needo Brown didn't do the Tech City with
Speaker 1: the dog. And I'm sitting around the beast smoking around
Speaker 1: us as I swear to God with a little alligator
Speaker 1: and the alligator just a big, big face cat, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, because you know, they're saying it's a
Speaker 1: baby alligator, so you're thinking like, okay, anything baby is
Speaker 1: leaking and I'm like oh, and then they were just chilling.
Speaker 1: So I had to act like this was normal. Listen,
Speaker 1: I've never seen like this in my last what the
Speaker 1: what the hell? Like, this is some real Nino Brown ship.
Speaker 1: What the what made you get an alligator to my
Speaker 1: brother just because I could get it? Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: something just your Tiger King Joe exotic ship right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah remember that night, Yeah that was right before we
Speaker 1: went in. We was all in. Yeah, so um yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah you want to speak about the uh that
Speaker 1: it was crazy? Who else was there? You remember this
Speaker 1: was your house, right, yeah, it was. It was at
Speaker 1: the crib. It was right before I uh at the
Speaker 1: term myself in do the year in the day, we
Speaker 1: was all in there. I think I did two records
Speaker 1: that night too. We was in there and yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember you being there. Yeah that was from Huck got
Speaker 1: Trunker to me from the bathroom because they you know,
Speaker 1: alligated only get this big, this this environment. So I
Speaker 1: had to the fish tank and it was it was
Speaker 1: a little but it was good. And I told him
Speaker 1: they see me handling it, but I handled Yeah, they're facts.
Speaker 1: So I told him like, yo, don't play with it.
Speaker 1: He like, Yo, this a little bit more. Ain't gonna
Speaker 1: I said, all right, go ahead pick it up. And
Speaker 1: I'm like when you grabbed him, you got to make
Speaker 1: sure you grab behind the net thing like so he
Speaker 1: won't swing back. And you know we this was the
Speaker 1: the day before going so Mari we were drinking and
Speaker 1: that anything. We're like, we had to afford it. They were,
Speaker 1: so we is in there. H I think guy was
Speaker 1: playing around with the gator. He keeps sticking his face
Speaker 1: on the tank. I'm like, yo, don't do that. Like
Speaker 1: I ain't feed him in like a week. So I'm
Speaker 1: like me, like, Ali ain't playing with that. They keep
Speaker 1: messing with the tank. I said, all right, So I
Speaker 1: told him go ahead, pick it up. So he got
Speaker 1: the gator. He prod my grabbing bond. So when he
Speaker 1: snapped on a guary, so all muscle again. So he's like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: he couldn't handle it, so he like trying to get
Speaker 1: it to him. I'm like, nah, because I usually keep
Speaker 1: you know, I usually keep the runner bass on his mouth.
Speaker 1: So he thought it was funny, you know, Gary bleeding
Speaker 1: and ship. So so I just let him go on
Speaker 1: the floor. I just let him run around. So to
Speaker 1: was like, man, he wasn't scared of the gator and
Speaker 1: all that. He tried to grab him, and when he
Speaker 1: tried to grab him and around, the snap on him.
Speaker 1: So when the snaped on he he fell. Now the
Speaker 1: alligator chasing him. So it was like the bath from
Speaker 1: me scooting back and try to lock itself in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: It was, it was, it was, It was crazy. I
Speaker 1: remember that night. No, No, let me ask you something
Speaker 1: because immediately when you google you right, yeah, these movies
Speaker 1: come up and in these compilations, Uh, what was that
Speaker 1: was that was your idea from the beginning was like, yo,
Speaker 1: let me get myself on because like I think, we
Speaker 1: had other people who stay property and they said that
Speaker 1: that Rocketfeller made y'all group. Is that because we've never
Speaker 1: got we got everyone else's story. We didn't get it
Speaker 1: from the motherfucker's horse's mouth. Well, to be honest, how
Speaker 1: we came together, we was all I think I was
Speaker 1: the only one signed the Rocket Feller ropers and uh
Speaker 1: at the time, you know I was doing again like
Speaker 1: I was. It was just it was a litt I
Speaker 1: didn't look at it as like a career. And so
Speaker 1: I had got I met Free probably a week or
Speaker 1: two weeks before I got signed the Rocket Feller on
Speaker 1: the streets. On the street. On the street, I met
Speaker 1: Free and he just was like dope and ship. We
Speaker 1: got an ill story. Uh you know on my corner seagull.
Speaker 1: It wasn't cool to be a rapper, so I had
Speaker 1: to sneak and you know what I mean, like spit
Speaker 1: raps both both er. Yeah, you was whacked, like, okay,
Speaker 1: we was. And that's because of the gates all because
Speaker 1: of the musselm No, it was just it was the
Speaker 1: block we was We was doing us, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm trying to beat not see wrong.
Speaker 1: I get you with you with you should be statue.
Speaker 1: We was doing us, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: was grind soon touching my brother, my brother. My guy
Speaker 1: used to be like, man, yeah, what's up with pet?
Speaker 1: He was good. He's good, He's good, he good, he
Speaker 1: got he got trucking company doing this lord doing this thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's good. So he was wrong with that shie. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hear that rap ship. They're gonna
Speaker 1: back with that dumbass book. Did he get out there?
Speaker 1: We we get money, so I'm trying to pull all
Speaker 1: my almost like you're risking to this list. They're like, man,
Speaker 1: we're getting this money. So my man Pocket was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you got Poco, Pocoka no word black nicknames po Poco
Speaker 1: makes a noise of black nicko down. Okay, Yeah that
Speaker 1: week we well it's we're calling Poco because everybody named Pocka. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's how it was on the block. So you couldn't
Speaker 1: see no body name you would be Poka. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be Poco Poco. We got rolled Pocket, So you
Speaker 1: know the names won't uh flowing. He just kept pushing
Speaker 1: me like so we used to be hustling in the spot.
Speaker 1: We grave yard shifting it. Man spade with me. Please,
Speaker 1: we gotta do it. We gotta do it, and Devil's
Speaker 1: av we gotta do it. Okay, continuous story, continue the story,
Speaker 1: my brother again, is this part of my case? Kidd
Speaker 1: want you to remember your story? But beans, like I said, man,
Speaker 1: this show giving people their flowers, and then I really
Speaker 1: wanted to give your flowers even more than I want
Speaker 1: to bout you. I want to give your flowers because
Speaker 1: you know why, You're a part of my generation. You're
Speaker 1: part of the real that's left. And you know what,
Speaker 1: if we are here doing things, you should be out
Speaker 1: here doing things. So I told you to come out,
Speaker 1: and you came outside, got coot. But what you say,
Speaker 1: continue that? Continue So and used to be in the
Speaker 1: crimp time doing this ship. I might have been like,
Speaker 1: uh maybe nineteen when I first started, uh you know,
Speaker 1: really taking this serially but not taking this serial. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: late nineties man, nine probably like nineties seven, like nine
Speaker 1: seven what I got signed at nine eight, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say between nine six and nine seven. So you
Speaker 1: got signed pretty quickly when you started. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's the years though, nine six and nine seven,
Speaker 1: So that's that's not that's my years because well I
Speaker 1: came out of jail not six, but nine seven is
Speaker 1: when the war report actually dropped, so not seven. Yeah
Speaker 1: I'm not six, not seven like you Damn that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Good Okay. So we used to sit in the spot
Speaker 1: like we had our thing every night. We grave our
Speaker 1: ships from when the when the crack house, when the crackhouse.
Speaker 1: We we have what called the trap house. Let's crack
Speaker 1: house the day the trap house. Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: you want you trying to get caught, trying to get caught.
Speaker 1: You want to go with we're being the spot and
Speaker 1: our night we'll ordered uh we's you know, are running
Speaker 1: Chinese store because we're gonna be up all night. We
Speaker 1: used to get like twenty ways five rice five six
Speaker 1: pep season because we're gonna be up all night. Get
Speaker 1: our backwards are are weed Pako used to roll all
Speaker 1: the weed up. That's when you used to be eating
Speaker 1: the pack. Now they robbing us back with the backwards
Speaker 1: and they used to be eating the packs. So we'll
Speaker 1: roll up and we had a little radio in the
Speaker 1: in in in the spot, so where he he was
Speaker 1: damn Lo mixed tastes. Was that, uh Ryan J Ryan
Speaker 1: G mixed tapes. We used to listen to them joints
Speaker 1: every night. That was our our thing. So I'd be
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'd be writing ship and Pocua. Every
Speaker 1: week he riding in New York to go find the
Speaker 1: new mix six to bring him back down. That was
Speaker 1: I think every week. So we had this little ass
Speaker 1: radio and we used to sit there all night. So
Speaker 1: we used to run now instrumentals, so we used to
Speaker 1: turn the base up all the way on the little
Speaker 1: radio and turn the trouble all the way down and
Speaker 1: take out the vocals to take out the muffler. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's like I'm god. Yeah, So we used to So
Speaker 1: that was that was our Yeah, And I used to
Speaker 1: wrap wrapper for other people's ship, like anything that was
Speaker 1: hot at the time. Like That's how I started writing
Speaker 1: like there and he killed that. All right, I'm about
Speaker 1: to write to that. I gotta gotta top that. So
Speaker 1: when you guys went to see Jay and damon him
Speaker 1: um in New York words, the other guys were stayed
Speaker 1: property already there, you know. Okay, well nobody was there,
Speaker 1: but how do you even get to that point? How
Speaker 1: do you get to them? Wanted to see you and me?
Speaker 1: All right? So uh it was it was a guy
Speaker 1: from my herd named murder Mill. Artists who artists artists
Speaker 1: murder Mill. He wound up being signed the violated on
Speaker 1: the Christie. So me and murder Mill had battle when
Speaker 1: somebody I knew, uh Ryan, he knew that I knew
Speaker 1: how to wrap, and he was like, Yo, it was
Speaker 1: this kid, Ryan. It's named murder Mill. He nice. So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going a loa with it, but I'm
Speaker 1: running through everything in Philly like smashing it. So when
Speaker 1: I met murder Mill, battling battle. So I go around
Speaker 1: there to meet murder Mill and we wind up battle one.
Speaker 1: So he was the first person that I ever had
Speaker 1: to think twice like damn. I asked my man Poco.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I think that Nigga might have
Speaker 1: got me yo. And this is this is this is
Speaker 1: lyrical car back, no beat, no beat, no street. This
Speaker 1: is the only year. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: going right right, We're going we out there before DVD ye,
Speaker 1: before all that ship. So we both leave and you know,
Speaker 1: nobody would say, like who won. They was like, no,
Speaker 1: they got. It was like it was like nobody was
Speaker 1: saying but me. I felt. I'm like, damn, I'm us
Speaker 1: run through people. So I'm like, yo, you think this
Speaker 1: dude got me? He was like, yo, he nice. So
Speaker 1: when you didn't ask the questions just say, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's when you start taking this serious. You don't want
Speaker 1: to lose, don't want that was that was something to
Speaker 1: come outside, like that oh ship. So I started digging
Speaker 1: then right and ship and then on the flip side,
Speaker 1: I got I wrote about ten. I ain't not account
Speaker 1: bars none of that ship. So I got like ten raps.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, we're going back around, and we're going
Speaker 1: back around and we're going for the money to the
Speaker 1: battle almost the name again. Yeah, murder Mill. On the
Speaker 1: flip side, murder Mill was thinking I was thinking. When
Speaker 1: I met up with him, he was like, yo, you nice.
Speaker 1: He was like you the only nigger that I felt
Speaker 1: got me. So I'm like, damn this nigga. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: both felt the same way, and it was just like
Speaker 1: we messed and it was on in popping so He
Speaker 1: called me one day and was like, Yo, it's these
Speaker 1: kids from Southwest. These boys they talking crazy hens like
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. They nice stuff, but they're talking
Speaker 1: about they want to battlem okay, and that's Philly's most wanted. Okay,
Speaker 1: most wanted. It's not that's not Gilly and them. That's
Speaker 1: the other dude that ball ball had just like Gilly, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bubani didn't do yeah, okay, it was was a part
Speaker 1: of them too. No, that's part of major. Yeah. So uh,
Speaker 1: we go to battle. Uh most wanted. So we supposed
Speaker 1: a battle for some money. So we take the money
Speaker 1: up there. We go up there. But at the time,
Speaker 1: I think they management was managing them. At the time,
Speaker 1: I believe they was in King Koon and they was
Speaker 1: with Jake. They was had a meeting with Jay, so
Speaker 1: most waters management. Yeah. So we wound up battle and
Speaker 1: in the crow we I don't even I wouldn't need
Speaker 1: to call a bout. We just started going in and
Speaker 1: Bubani was crazy with it. But my man murder Mill,
Speaker 1: he had a he had a thing about them. So
Speaker 1: when we wrapped and it was over, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, he pulled me to the sign way exchanged numbers.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you hot. So he told me. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, we at the meeting with Rocket Feller.
Speaker 1: I mean they had deals on the table like black
Speaker 1: and white and Rocket Feller is the only way to
Speaker 1: being Rocket Feller this year. Yeah, but they really got
Speaker 1: meek maybe a mail at this time, or do they
Speaker 1: even got the mail they got the couldn't know. I
Speaker 1: think it was just it was just me and Bleak
Speaker 1: when it's just Bleak at the time, and I think
Speaker 1: when I got there was Bleak and it was a
Speaker 1: group called the Rangers. The Rangers, yeah at the time.
Speaker 1: So when men Bux changed numbers and he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you hot. But still at this time, I'm not taking
Speaker 1: rap like serious. It was just something that I knew
Speaker 1: I could do. Like I wasn't trying to be a
Speaker 1: rapping He's showing me contracts. I mean they was at
Speaker 1: yeah this they kind they have offers from like four
Speaker 1: different labels. So he was like, yo, we said, pullosed
Speaker 1: to go up there and go to Rocket fell of
Speaker 1: Rockets To me and Jay, he was like, yo, you
Speaker 1: should take this ride with us something like all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I take the rock were exchanged numbers so the day
Speaker 1: that they was going to uh go to Rocket Fellow Rockets,
Speaker 1: murder Mill had a dog named Mikey grand Chat. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm about to say Mikey seemed like a legend ard.
Speaker 1: Mikey was killing ship. Mikey was biting so hard he
Speaker 1: biked the dog. When the blood come out hit the ground,
Speaker 1: it's blue, then it turned red. That's how hard quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how it was. Bike. So I just, you know,
Speaker 1: got something from my foods, and you know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is a short shot. I'm trying to go back
Speaker 1: this money on Mikey the dog. The dog, I'm not
Speaker 1: even trying to do Yeah, I'm like yeah. So a
Speaker 1: car was like, yo, come up, come up. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna come up. But I'm trying to
Speaker 1: duck him. I ain't trying to go there. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to go to the Stark fight. But like, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to back to my short shot. It's a short shot.
Speaker 1: It's a short You're going to New York and the
Speaker 1: New York Throude signing you come on, man, that's probably
Speaker 1: like nineties. Are you saying it's just for the rod?
Speaker 1: Ye oh, that's right, it's not my meeting. That's why
Speaker 1: they would even invite you though. Yeah, yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1: That's that's why. You know, God work work. So it's
Speaker 1: like so when Boban he offered it, he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: come with me. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1: You know this part cutting you off, you know the
Speaker 1: crazy ship is That's how I got one too. It
Speaker 1: was Compole's deal and then he bought me. And that's
Speaker 1: where the cars. Yeah, I even know this get to
Speaker 1: you so long story shot. I trying to duck him.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out the trip. They're sitting down
Speaker 1: and say it's waiting. I'm like, oh fuck, they outside
Speaker 1: the crib. So I gotta take the ride. And I
Speaker 1: remember one interview. I remember saying that, uh, they was
Speaker 1: all at Bubonic. Wasn't there? Bubonic wasn't there? Was It
Speaker 1: was Mr part of the group and it was nice.
Speaker 1: So we go up there. It was some other dudes
Speaker 1: that was in the studio at this time. Jay was recording.
Speaker 1: Uh it was all good. A week ago. We're too short.
Speaker 1: They was in the studio. I think I saw this story.
Speaker 1: You said you want to be too short? A much
Speaker 1: more than you want to meet Jay at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the time, too short game. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: Jay was my man. He was more my brother was
Speaker 1: I was Biggie Dout my brother. Yeah, he was jay
Speaker 1: Out like that's he wasn't had nothing else but jay
Speaker 1: Z whenever reasonable doubt drop like for yeah, he didn't
Speaker 1: playing nothing but that. So when I come in him,
Speaker 1: like you know, I get to meet the rippers, I'm
Speaker 1: not a rapper at the time, so too short in there.
Speaker 1: He got two bitches with it. He got no reason, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he was cool. I think he had on like he
Speaker 1: hadn't like this creaming like burgundy pitch striped suit with
Speaker 1: the with the burgundy gators. Yeah, the goold preside all
Speaker 1: bust down with the burgundy face and he just want
Speaker 1: some chill ship and he got the two bitches. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's too short. And that's New York. Yeah, New York,
Speaker 1: New York, in the New York living like here New
Speaker 1: York nigger. He's not. So I'm not, yo. This ship
Speaker 1: too short, like all the music all that ship, like,
Speaker 1: oh ship that ship. So I'm typing my man, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's too short. So there was some guys in there.
Speaker 1: They was wrapping, uh, most one they was. They was
Speaker 1: going back and forth, back and forth, and it was
Speaker 1: about the end of the joint. They was like, all right,
Speaker 1: it was the end of the ship. So one of
Speaker 1: the other guys they said that they ja was like,
Speaker 1: that's it. And one of the guys uh started rapping again.
Speaker 1: Then he said like he said some Philly some some
Speaker 1: line about some Philly ship. One of the other rappers
Speaker 1: that was in there. So I'm sick. Yeah. So at
Speaker 1: the time I'm in the back, I'm just smoking and
Speaker 1: I'm just what was he from Delaware? US all, like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's f New York, from New York, from
Speaker 1: New York. He had turned into like the New York
Speaker 1: Philly thing with them, and moo, I'm always be wanting
Speaker 1: to turn into a New York Philly thing. It's not
Speaker 1: a New York Philly thing, y'all. I gotta relax. So
Speaker 1: they so they started going back and full so me,
Speaker 1: you know, into the New York I was, you know,
Speaker 1: he said some ship about Philly. T suis. So I'm
Speaker 1: the whole time, I'm like, but this day's ship I'm
Speaker 1: just here and you you want to tell more the
Speaker 1: guy's name, most wanted, the most one, you want to
Speaker 1: tell the Okay, you want to tell them to fall black.
Speaker 1: Now it's your turn. No, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: and I'm like he's holding back and I'm holding back
Speaker 1: like Bondick was head, this ship would have got different
Speaker 1: because he's bonding. He's different. So I'm sitting I'm antsy
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's nigger than than than saying some
Speaker 1: slick ship. So when Ja was like that's sick, and
Speaker 1: he said it again, Doug, Yeah, I got something, so
Speaker 1: he looking you know what I mean. I stepped at
Speaker 1: be like. So they management was like, yo, that's who
Speaker 1: is talking about. So I'm like okay. So they're not
Speaker 1: like like yo, Homie saying your placed ain't on that
Speaker 1: type of ship. They're okay homie stepping up, step up. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I got something. So Jay was like
Speaker 1: who the fund is that? Like who is this? Because
Speaker 1: he knew he was there for you know, most one thing,
Speaker 1: and he like the fun is that? So they managed
Speaker 1: me was like uh said, he was like yo, this kid,
Speaker 1: I was telling you about so imbody you was telling
Speaker 1: him about. So I'm sitting in the back mind you
Speaker 1: you know, back to jail ground. I'm not. I'm from
Speaker 1: South Philly. They most one of them, they from Southwest
Speaker 1: from one and they management and all the day from
Speaker 1: North Philly. So I'm the only South Philly negative. So
Speaker 1: it's jil we super geographical. Got beef North Philly at
Speaker 1: the time. No, it's just that South Philly is hard
Speaker 1: put like this. If you compare Philly to New York. Uh,
Speaker 1: West Philly would be like West, I said of West
Speaker 1: South or up Town. That's all. Uh, South Philly is
Speaker 1: like Brooklyn. Okay, all right, yeah, it's it's the Brooklyn
Speaker 1: of Yeah, let's keep get Yeah, Okay to y'all, I
Speaker 1: speak her language. Okay. So Jay, like, who the fund
Speaker 1: is this? So I stepped up when I started rapping,
Speaker 1: and it was looking like I stepped straight to the
Speaker 1: balls like winning and dan No, I don't know if
Speaker 1: one of them had him are bottled and I winning
Speaker 1: again on it. It just was the elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: After that, I'm gonna ask you something, and you you
Speaker 1: you you tell me if I'm corrected by when I
Speaker 1: first came into the game. When I first started rapping,
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to exaggerate. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: other rappers were making up ship and they wraps. So
Speaker 1: a person has to tell me relax, like, you can't
Speaker 1: be putting all that ship. Did you go through that?
Speaker 1: Because I listened to your early ship, I feel like,
Speaker 1: damn you, you went through the same ship. Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought you're supposed to write everything that
Speaker 1: you went through. I didn't know that. At some point
Speaker 1: you get you're supposed to still do that, right, I
Speaker 1: think you're supposed to still do that. You know, at
Speaker 1: least if if you ain't going through it, at least
Speaker 1: you got knowledge first hand or or next to it is.
Speaker 1: Everything is a facade now and it's no substance in it.
Speaker 1: Like I believe in music is supposed to, you know,
Speaker 1: resonate to people. You're making these music, like we grew
Speaker 1: up on music. No matter what kind of music it is,
Speaker 1: whether it's wrap, R and B, whatever it is, it's
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be, you know, some sort of message
Speaker 1: in there that you can you know, hold on to.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you gotta drop you know.
Speaker 1: I come from where people was dropping jews. Even when
Speaker 1: Ship was exaggerated, it still was jews in the music.
Speaker 1: I think it's just you're just going and just say anything.
Speaker 1: When you put scar face at Biggie somewhere, it comes
Speaker 1: yeah you like you know what I'm saying, like your flow,
Speaker 1: you flow attribute to Biggie, like how you put words
Speaker 1: together and felt like melodies and and and and you're
Speaker 1: breathing methods. But but I didn't. Uh, I didn't like
Speaker 1: how you dropped the jews. And he could be just
Speaker 1: as hood but still say like a scar face, don't
Speaker 1: ever come off as preaching. You understand saying do you think?
Speaker 1: Do you think it's accurate or something of you? Um,
Speaker 1: it's one person I'm missing when you I think every
Speaker 1: rapper is mixed with three rappers. So I said, bigg
Speaker 1: East scar face if I if I m hm, big
Speaker 1: and scarf is definitely too super bigger influence on it's
Speaker 1: the people that's locked up nah steady b Yeah yeah
Speaker 1: yeah nah Ship. I mean that's that's that's that's like
Speaker 1: my top top two. Uh I would say, uh, I
Speaker 1: would saying kr ress wow on on a justistan the
Speaker 1: word playing right and that the simplicity. You know, still
Speaker 1: be okay, I can see that. Let's make some noise
Speaker 1: for that. God damn. Now you was on one of
Speaker 1: the illest tours ever. Yeah, one of the first tours
Speaker 1: not only the illest tours, but it was one of
Speaker 1: the first successful tours that actually there's been other successful
Speaker 1: tours never run by black people, like this is the
Speaker 1: first time. Like if this, do you realize if this
Speaker 1: tour would have funked up? None of us, like because
Speaker 1: everyone had the height of the day records and just
Speaker 1: how it wasn't like because you know, I've never I
Speaker 1: never did a date on that joint. I've never got
Speaker 1: to come out, got to do every other joints. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was hopefully God blessed. I was busy,
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to experienced that. I wanted to
Speaker 1: go the method man and then was climbing through this. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean again, I've been on plenty of tours. I've
Speaker 1: never been on a tour like this. Did you know
Speaker 1: what you were on at the time, or or you
Speaker 1: were all right, cool, that's that's that's a good or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I it was the norm. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the norm, but it wasn't the norm for
Speaker 1: me because it just was like this makes some voice
Speaker 1: of your door, the hold on time, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: So you thought that that this was just I thought
Speaker 1: that's just how I went. That was my first. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is like your your seven or something
Speaker 1: like that. So no, hard knock, this was your first.
Speaker 1: I didn't have an album out. Holy see, I didn't
Speaker 1: peep that together because she was the one coming out.
Speaker 1: Rob and I compella, Okay, I I got thrown to
Speaker 1: the wolves like that. That's what was crazy. It was
Speaker 1: that was okay, some method. Mahan is already out, Red
Speaker 1: Man is already everybody in the middle or a Jay show,
Speaker 1: he stops and says, I got this kid from Philadelphia
Speaker 1: that I just signed and ain't being mat you got
Speaker 1: something for him, And I'm looking at seeing people like
Speaker 1: oh ship and this is in the same round every
Speaker 1: night or every night, no one time. I remember I
Speaker 1: switched it and Jay was like nahow because I didn't know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I didn't know. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep spitting the same ship like
Speaker 1: I got a lot of ship. I want to get
Speaker 1: here like nah, this, that's the routine, Like you gotta
Speaker 1: do that? Like, how is that hard? Like because you're
Speaker 1: coming out after hit right home. Yeah, that's sir. You
Speaker 1: don't understand like dm mex perform, then Red Man and
Speaker 1: Math performed, and j performed like it closed it up.
Speaker 1: I don't even got a album out nothing. I think
Speaker 1: I might have been on clue mix tape a few songs.
Speaker 1: Uh and they there, how that ain't correct? Like and
Speaker 1: it's like all right, and they gonna get out there
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh ship. So the first I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say the first three nights it was crazy, like like
Speaker 1: the shaking, not shaking, but like damn, I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 1: if I get boomed, it's over. It's over. But you know,
Speaker 1: you can't blame but DJ, you can't blame nobody. Ain't no,
Speaker 1: it's just you yourself that's going in. That's like the
Speaker 1: fair you're going in. I just have my you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I have my shower shoes, my child.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You're like, you're walking in
Speaker 1: and do that big you know what's you against? The jail.
Speaker 1: It's like I just stepped in the population. I'm walked
Speaker 1: on the yard fresh Fish and that's how it was
Speaker 1: that night. And after the first three nights and the
Speaker 1: reception that I got from it, it was like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: it's about to be on and they just went crazy
Speaker 1: and I knew that that it was. It was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a good thing because I remember seeing like
Speaker 1: when I came out, I remember seeing rand Man and
Speaker 1: Meth and I'm at one time d and Max and
Speaker 1: it was like these niggas can't like they wasn't watching
Speaker 1: watching Jay show, like when I was going on. They
Speaker 1: was coming on stage to see and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, that's crazy. It was like, oh ship. And
Speaker 1: then one one day I'm in backstage, Buster was it
Speaker 1: that self? The deal for me? Well, I was wanting
Speaker 1: to drink and Buster was like he stopped me and
Speaker 1: just shook my hand and just looked at me. Was
Speaker 1: like yeah, And I was like, oh ship. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, brother, uh because you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, took to hype this ship up, you know,
Speaker 1: just so you know, everyone knew who he was gonna be,
Speaker 1: everyone knew who you was coming out, Like you understand
Speaker 1: I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I used
Speaker 1: it against you saying the band from TV ship, but
Speaker 1: I was very proud of your motherfucker dropping two thousand
Speaker 1: balls and thirty million balls on that motherfucker. So um,
Speaker 1: but we knew who you are, like we we we
Speaker 1: actually the hip hop like, um, you know, it's like not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say a secret society becase I
Speaker 1: don't want people to be like thinking like we're on
Speaker 1: something like you know, some illuminaity types, because that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it is a group of people who
Speaker 1: sit around and say, you know what, we're gonna sunk
Speaker 1: with a young man. We're gonna sunk with this. We're
Speaker 1: gonna work with this, you know, saying It's not that
Speaker 1: they got the power to push it button, but most
Speaker 1: people and when you came through, trust me, it was
Speaker 1: like wow, wow, this this, this is this is alleged.
Speaker 1: So let me let me switch around, let me bounce
Speaker 1: around boone. Al Right, so you guys are signed the
Speaker 1: Jay now state prop you know them now? Um, this
Speaker 1: is I knew free Okay, So uh I was crazy
Speaker 1: people the Rocket Fuller Records. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think I ain't know no better. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't care, not even sign right, No,
Speaker 1: just get on anybody from Philly. Let's go, come on yo,
Speaker 1: these niggas. So I'm just bringing people up. So I
Speaker 1: knew Free at the time, like so, and I told
Speaker 1: Free our story. Ill so uh we're me and Free
Speaker 1: Matt Uh. I believe it was. We was at a
Speaker 1: club in Philly hip hop. It was called Dances. So
Speaker 1: they had h that's what Gilly and Waller used to
Speaker 1: strip out. They set that on here right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I ain't trying me like they dances, man, Yeah
Speaker 1: they did. Man, we got to figot footage of it. Seriously,
Speaker 1: my footage other I'm saying that he's a dance. They
Speaker 1: stare at least like what kind of dash they was?
Speaker 1: You know, it's okay, yeah, so here, where's that Bobby dancer?
Speaker 1: So it was like a lot a little contests or whatever.
Speaker 1: Was for some money or whatever. So uh, one of
Speaker 1: my youngest they told me about it. It was like, yo,
Speaker 1: come down, like you should go down there. So I
Speaker 1: think they was I think the projects, like five thousand
Speaker 1: or whatever. So we had a spot, you know, on
Speaker 1: twenty first three, and we was making that in the shift.
Speaker 1: So we we we finish up. We we're supposed to
Speaker 1: finish up. We had our margin, so we go down there.
Speaker 1: We he loaded in this pocket. I'm loaded. I go
Speaker 1: down there, so I'm like, yo, we're in a crowd way,
Speaker 1: so I asked some I'm like, yo, whoever beat that joint?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna match that draint and I want to battle,
Speaker 1: and who won the five thousand? If he beat me?
Speaker 1: He got another five thousand. So I got on stage.
Speaker 1: It got goofy. So I look up. I'm battling like
Speaker 1: three people. So I run through one dude. I wrote
Speaker 1: through another dude. So another nigga pull out some money.
Speaker 1: So it gets crazy the brand. So I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: make sure that money right. So the one dude, but
Speaker 1: he he didn't want to put the money up, so
Speaker 1: it's in the crown d going crazy. So I look up.
Speaker 1: I'm battling three four dudes at one time, but I'm
Speaker 1: running through him. So then it was another lord nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm looking he's going crazy in the crowd. He got
Speaker 1: his hat off slow, so we like he pull out
Speaker 1: some money out of his pocket. Bess I ain't like
Speaker 1: so I can see this. I can see the exactly
Speaker 1: dude you're talking about. I'm like, yo, you could get
Speaker 1: it too. So I grabbed put him on the stage,
Speaker 1: like you could get it too. So I'm like, da,
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm a battle this nigger. But he stood
Speaker 1: right next to me, so he started going that another
Speaker 1: niggati that was battling and went crazy on that is.
Speaker 1: The whole club went bananis. So now we booth on
Speaker 1: at him and we're like, what's up with the bread?
Speaker 1: And they got a little goofy we had to do.
Speaker 1: But that that dude that can't out pulled on stage
Speaker 1: and still next to me. He was like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rock with you like and that was free and
Speaker 1: that was free way. So that signed me in freeway
Speaker 1: freeway Matt, okay, So let me ask you right, so
Speaker 1: you guys are down with JA right boom freeway. I
Speaker 1: believe this is young guns. And he asks y'all to
Speaker 1: come to the radio station. Yeah all right. Does he
Speaker 1: tell y'all it's time for war? So he said, y'all listen,
Speaker 1: I want y'all to go out the best of MC
Speaker 1: that's other than me. No, that was that was I mean,
Speaker 1: because like he has to warn you about you guys
Speaker 1: are about to go out NAS. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna tell y'all to like my surprise. He got say
Speaker 1: you going the world? You had seven when y'all I'm
Speaker 1: sorry the first year when y'all wrong, No, we just
Speaker 1: was up there. I think, uh, like I said, all right,
Speaker 1: nobody had nobody signed the contract fell at this sign.
Speaker 1: Damn you went to Fastide. So y'all just got a
Speaker 1: relationship with Jane danea. They can't smoke with nas. This
Speaker 1: was before. I don't because before, because it's before the
Speaker 1: NA situation. The first time we went to Hot nine
Speaker 1: seven when y're wrong, then you was robbing off the
Speaker 1: Queens beat and Yah, I believe that was the first time. No,
Speaker 1: that was that that. I don't think that was that
Speaker 1: was before. I think because we was offended because we attion. No,
Speaker 1: ya was offended because me was Bernie, all right, stop
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. It's too it's too sick. It's
Speaker 1: it's so you say the first time you went to
Speaker 1: Hot Night seven ft. The first time we went to
Speaker 1: Hot Night seven it was just it was it was
Speaker 1: we was at Baseline Studio. So nobody uh at that time,
Speaker 1: I think actually signed the contract. Chat Okay, I was signed.
Speaker 1: I believe if anybody did sign a contract, it was Freeway. Okay,
Speaker 1: one of those I think Young Guns and O'skeino and
Speaker 1: Sparks was signed to Black Friday Entertainment. Even the manager
Speaker 1: people right, okay, cool, So they was Black Friday Rockefeller.
Speaker 1: But we was all together. So when I was recording
Speaker 1: my albums, we used to just come up and just
Speaker 1: recording records because I was used to be fast. I
Speaker 1: go in and do three records complete and a couple
Speaker 1: of hours. So I'm like, yo, we got twelve hour
Speaker 1: blocked out. I didn't did what I came to doing
Speaker 1: four hours. I'm like, yo, we got eight hours. Let's go.
Speaker 1: So we just started piling up music like crazy. So
Speaker 1: one day, you know, we just started playing ship at
Speaker 1: the at baseline and we was Niggers was just scoring in.
Speaker 1: So J just made a call and he just made
Speaker 1: the call like fun that we're going to the radio station. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here, you're right. It's just it has to be
Speaker 1: two different times. One time y'all went and y'all destroyed it.
Speaker 1: But then one time it was like deliberately where it
Speaker 1: was like, all right, Jay was really going at NOS.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was going at NIS, but I
Speaker 1: think I was just going at the moment anybody around.
Speaker 1: I think it was a couple of shows. Anybody that
Speaker 1: came at Rocket Front of Records, Yeah, everybody. They called me. Listen, listen.
Speaker 1: They called me because one of them said, we want
Speaker 1: to run and uh they said something like we want
Speaker 1: to run nor And then I went, let me tell
Speaker 1: that story. Let me let me while you wear your
Speaker 1: queen's shirt. Yeah, I said about my Philadelicia. You up.
Speaker 1: But um um, so Jake calls you and says, y'all
Speaker 1: want you to go at NAS or I just want
Speaker 1: you all to come on there and just while out again. No,
Speaker 1: Jay never made that call because he was with y'all
Speaker 1: when y'all know not when I'll get these stories mixed up?
Speaker 1: Jay was when is the first time we went to
Speaker 1: now okay, second time when we went up there, when
Speaker 1: it was it was just me, Freeway and the young Duns,
Speaker 1: and that was against not Nos, against Jada Jada, nicebody,
Speaker 1: everybody think some stories for everybody got so wow, wow,
Speaker 1: this is this is, this is this is this is,
Speaker 1: this is where were that was your story. You're gonna say, Okay, no,
Speaker 1: all right, boom. This is why it's either I got
Speaker 1: it mixed up or we both a little been sucked
Speaker 1: up in life. I know because one of them was.
Speaker 1: It was one time when Jay was up there and
Speaker 1: they roomed up all queens beats and your mind have
Speaker 1: not thought like that, And na As I took it
Speaker 1: like it was like, yo, that was that was fat.
Speaker 1: So he called him money bags because it's a dude
Speaker 1: name on their name, h money bags. So now I
Speaker 1: sold the money bags. Money Bags happened to be in
Speaker 1: left right in my projects at the time. I smacked
Speaker 1: dead in the middle, so he called products. He came,
Speaker 1: and then and then nature came and we all went
Speaker 1: to Hot nightty seven. We're supposed to be respawn and
Speaker 1: Flex actually pulled me to the side and was like, yo,
Speaker 1: they're lying to you. They never said nothing about you
Speaker 1: at all, you know what I'm saying. So I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, But he was still there and he
Speaker 1: just never let us up. So but that would have
Speaker 1: been some ill history. It could have went like that. No,
Speaker 1: it looked like you have never really didn't know. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying even like saying, like, I know, I
Speaker 1: know you used to say about it because just like
Speaker 1: we wanna got smashed, because that's what I think about it.
Speaker 1: Jay might have used y'all like that, and you y'all
Speaker 1: didn't really know, like that's what you trying to say,
Speaker 1: Like he might have said, yo yo yo, to flex
Speaker 1: your put on shook ones put on till and why
Speaker 1: I put on it would have been flex playing the record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was FLEXI paying the record. So what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say so, so yeah'll probably was robbing on these
Speaker 1: beats saying ship you know, because you've gotter wrapping is
Speaker 1: anyway all and you're saying it and it's like okay,
Speaker 1: and it's it's resonating, like oh, that's this in that's
Speaker 1: this in the homies, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: like that's I think, James, that's smart. I think yeah,
Speaker 1: But I'll never looked at it like that. That would
Speaker 1: if that's how I went down. That was but that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's okay, um hard knight life till then you you
Speaker 1: beat up? Clue, how does that happen? Nine? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the footage beas I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: ain't make this up. Brodn't you down like that gown years.
Speaker 1: You know, we're all cool. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's all no, let's go down that clue, my man,
Speaker 1: that didn't go down like that. So what happened? He's
Speaker 1: just we are not like tour. So clue got this.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the fucking call them. Joints. Uh,
Speaker 1: the slack jack ship, the ship that you the little metal,
Speaker 1: the little drink and when you swing it, so we
Speaker 1: should be left backstay he keep doing that ship, you
Speaker 1: keep doing that ship. So he was saying, like what
Speaker 1: he would do with something, I'm like, clue now allegedly yeah,
Speaker 1: because we didn't see it on Yeah, allegedly. You know
Speaker 1: I'm situated. I'm like, clue, you get one swing off
Speaker 1: because I'm you know, I'm young. I'm wow. So you
Speaker 1: know I got the big ass drawing on. They don't
Speaker 1: nobody no so on tour by the way, you the
Speaker 1: biggest tour ever. Yeah? Ok, yeah so history, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is run DMC and you have a half on you
Speaker 1: let's make let's make the best change. Not only had one,
Speaker 1: but I had just Yeah, so I remember they was
Speaker 1: mad as ship too? About that? Uh, because I used
Speaker 1: to put it in the van that the promo what's
Speaker 1: my man name? Man? He used to be hot. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this you won't be cool putting the box. But the
Speaker 1: promo guy was Lenny said, what white lines? Dan, what's
Speaker 1: my man name? This is my man big showing. No,
Speaker 1: he worked for rocket Feller, but he was promo so
Speaker 1: he had the turtle top row on the posters and
Speaker 1: all that. So I had one on the bus and
Speaker 1: I used to stick one in the van like hes
Speaker 1: gonna get there, and I used to go chat. So anyway,
Speaker 1: no story short, uh, so cool to keep playing with
Speaker 1: this ship and he swung it at me. So I'm
Speaker 1: like a clue. I'm like, you only gonna get one
Speaker 1: swing with that? Somebody? Do you dirty? He's like, now
Speaker 1: you're crazy. This ship reached. I'm like, you swing that drink.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna swip that drink and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take it from you. You're like, how you I'm not easy?
Speaker 1: I was, so I didn't know that he was gonna
Speaker 1: step in, and I'm like yo, I'm like all right,
Speaker 1: go ahead, swing that. So when he swung me it.
Speaker 1: You know, I just moved to the side. Just yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was just it wasn't it was attacked. It
Speaker 1: was hands open. It's like, you're crazy. It was like
Speaker 1: and he walked into it and so I didn't get
Speaker 1: to you that he went to It's a they called
Speaker 1: it on a little joint, so it's just a little
Speaker 1: tap and then you know, but that's my man cling lord. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy food a man. That's why we get
Speaker 1: best terror and we're trying to cry. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be because I don't want to be an organic food.
Speaker 1: Can't God damn holy more? That was that was um
Speaker 1: And I know you're married now, he wasn't married in right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I asked this question. This is before he was married.
Speaker 1: How much sposed you got back then? Because I'm married
Speaker 1: to so you know what I'm saying. But I mean,
Speaker 1: but your wife your hand see here. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, queen,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. But this is before, Like listen, my
Speaker 1: wife knows how to access before we rephrase the question,
Speaker 1: this before, so respect, my wife had to go through this. No,
Speaker 1: my wife knew. My wife knew what she married. We're good,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was wild back there. It was
Speaker 1: a while. It was wild. It was wild, it was wild. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change the subject. Yeah, I like being married.
Speaker 1: You like being the best thing that I've happened to me. Man,
Speaker 1: make you stay home and just make you cut out
Speaker 1: a lot of ship. You know what I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: if you tell my test you if you stay home? Come,
Speaker 1: what's your what's your what's your shows on television? Dirt doing?
Speaker 1: Dirnt do? Thunk? Thank thing? What's that do do? What's that?
Speaker 1: See that sound? Just my wife just swam home this way?
Speaker 1: This is what I gotta watch. I don't want to
Speaker 1: watch she see that side for forensic files and and
Speaker 1: all that. And I've been thinking, like, you want to
Speaker 1: kill me? Watch trying to get away the killing. You
Speaker 1: know you're not in short spots. Keep watching and I
Speaker 1: should be into it and talking to stupid dummy. She
Speaker 1: should never did that. She should have wiped that put
Speaker 1: the nut like I know that. I'm mad. Wow, But um,
Speaker 1: what shows we watch? I'm a documentary boy, I'm a
Speaker 1: documentary guys. I don't really do a lot of TV.
Speaker 1: But you know you want me to recommend the show
Speaker 1: you fire. It's called the shot. Oh yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: get the shot the mayor. The mayor, black dude, But
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this was a hit, like a hood hit,
Speaker 1: like shot the Mayor. Like, come on, bro, what show
Speaker 1: is shooting the mayor? Come on, man, getting shot? You
Speaker 1: gotta watch that property three, take property. Hold on, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that. Let's get hold on. Hold on.
Speaker 1: But because that's how it's either video games or series,
Speaker 1: that's how you stay home, you stay loyal. I don't
Speaker 1: play video games neither. I'm recommending a series. I watched
Speaker 1: my kids play video games PlayStation five. I don't get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get take my kids out
Speaker 1: to eat. They they don't even order. They're just like this,
Speaker 1: Yeah you're like that. I'm like, well, i'd be taking
Speaker 1: it from like I have to while I'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh goddamn, like it's crazy kids from whids coming up.
Speaker 1: We couldn't wait to go outside. I gotta literally like
Speaker 1: take all the devices and kicked them up the house,
Speaker 1: like go outside, go do something. Yeah it's different. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: you're ready for quick time and slab all right? You
Speaker 1: know what this is not? Come on whatever quick time
Speaker 1: slave is. We actually just want one. You gotta hear.
Speaker 1: But if you you could ask either way. But if
Speaker 1: you say none or you say both, you gotta take
Speaker 1: a shot. Or you can pick someone maybe, or you
Speaker 1: can pick someone, but I can pick somebody take my
Speaker 1: shots for me. Okay, that's cool. Back I was back there. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go back. Come on, comets, he already got me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the champagne yapping Esse whiskey can grab the yaping
Speaker 1: these whiskey please. Okay, alright, cool this one, I know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna take. Ain't gonna lie. I gotta actually
Speaker 1: this first one. I could have did something better than that,
Speaker 1: but um, I'm gonna let it rock because I know
Speaker 1: what he's gonna pick nas a jay Z Jack Okay,
Speaker 1: Camo Foxy Cam Clue, Rag clue. This one. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you have with it. D Mexa tupac X. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: they don't want some Japanese um call Yate or Jess
Speaker 1: Blaze both. You don't wanna take a shot of this
Speaker 1: specif ship in the Japanese. We can take a tiny
Speaker 1: shop that again. It's okay, No, it's not that took
Speaker 1: that shot. Cool, I owe you about him. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, cool, that's good dah. That's an double for me.
Speaker 1: Let's go back. That's made back. Okay, got n a
Speaker 1: k A tv C. It's TV's up, it's up. Make
Speaker 1: some Morrison tv C. Buel. You can't see it. Look
Speaker 1: when I was a fat boy, that that was my
Speaker 1: stunt double. I just made your famous. I've been famous famous.
Speaker 1: Tell god damn you know I used to work with
Speaker 1: Cosmic cav Okay, hold on, okay this I have to
Speaker 1: ask you a question about this later. But Meek mil
Speaker 1: or PT crack oh stop only not big personal style
Speaker 1: style only not in personal pet crack hands down. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know what the rumor is. The
Speaker 1: rumor is that a lot of people say that Meek
Speaker 1: style is mimicked from PT crap. No, so not at all. No, No, okay,
Speaker 1: glad that he can say that. Okay, no, not at all. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not super but crack they don't have no yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: super bad. I mean that's what that's what that's what
Speaker 1: certain people say. No, that's definitely joling. That's the donod thing.
Speaker 1: Nobody can mimic pet okay he just okay, so Cassidy
Speaker 1: or Freeway of course, Freeway Radio or podcasts, farm mass
Speaker 1: whatever whatever whatever you forever you think is podcast okay,
Speaker 1: just CEO just as far as Ceo Farmers. Yeah, give
Speaker 1: you a multiple choice, just far Ceo, No other not wrapper,
Speaker 1: other friends or whatever, Dane or jay Z m hm
Speaker 1: shot just Ceo, just CEO. Can I like take ship
Speaker 1: away from ship? Okay? You can break it down. You
Speaker 1: want to break it down, as you're saying, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can break it down. Were like you were like you
Speaker 1: break down. Okay, I'm gonna have to take a shot
Speaker 1: on no, because but I want to hear the breakdown.
Speaker 1: I would love to break down as well. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a shot with you. Man. I'm gonna say Jay
Speaker 1: the way he moved is just if I could say
Speaker 1: Jay is super smooth, like he's he's super smooth with
Speaker 1: day like night and day. But Dash, because I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a black coming. I T I T Dame
Speaker 1: fas tenacity like a fighter. Yeah, Dane Dame is an
Speaker 1: l CO. Like Dane, if he believe in something, he
Speaker 1: go hard, super hard and nine times out of tim
Speaker 1: Dame be right, but his delivery be fucked up sometimes.
Speaker 1: But he's he's a he's a super genius. So in
Speaker 1: my perfect world, I would take both of them. But
Speaker 1: I would if if Dame had j demeanor and his savviness,
Speaker 1: Dame would be the illness nick on the planet. My
Speaker 1: mom me to get back to get back to that question.
Speaker 1: You don't have to get back to the beat male,
Speaker 1: get back to damon ja. Yeah, because we don't have
Speaker 1: to go back to the beat male, because you can
Speaker 1: answer the beat, pretty crac I thought I thought you
Speaker 1: would say something difference. Okay, um, oh, this is going
Speaker 1: million dollar versus mien dollar worth a game or drink
Speaker 1: chance million dollars. I love stick together. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't even front I love it. Man. It's good to
Speaker 1: see me personally. You know what I'm saying. Okay, loyalty,
Speaker 1: your respect, But take a shot, take a shot. You
Speaker 1: know why? Because that that you can't answer them. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's a true question. It's a tru question. It's
Speaker 1: super because one kid you respect, if you love him,
Speaker 1: you gonna respect him. That's a lawyer. You gotta ask
Speaker 1: some kind of respect. Cool, but you couldn't respect someone
Speaker 1: not be loyal to them. That can't happen. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's why you can respect someone and not have loyalties
Speaker 1: to them. But you if you're loyal to someone, you're
Speaker 1: gonna respect them. Bam. All right, cool, we're ready. Na. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think something. I don't think you could be
Speaker 1: loyal to somebody and not respected. No, no, no loyal
Speaker 1: You're gonna automatically respect. Respect, but you might not be loyal.
Speaker 1: All right. You can respect some one in the streets
Speaker 1: and to them. Okay, Philly most wanted or major figures.
Speaker 1: The figures, Okay, this is gonna be easy for you.
Speaker 1: But the sixes are the net Nicks, of course, the sexes. Okay, Eva, Bahama, Dea,
Speaker 1: Eve max Is, or Isca Bibbles neither. Take a shot, buddy,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take one and take one and take them
Speaker 1: tick take one with you. I took Look look take
Speaker 1: a tiny one for ten for ten that's teeny see.
Speaker 1: This is that good ship. Just in case y'all. Y'all
Speaker 1: know drink chap shows about giving people their flowers while
Speaker 1: they alive. We have being make that statement up. We
Speaker 1: invented it. I mean, we made it famous and Beanie,
Speaker 1: Beanie Matt, we want you Mac motherfucking Broadstreet body wants
Speaker 1: you to know how much we appreciate you now while
Speaker 1: you are alive. Are you out here kicking when I
Speaker 1: told you to come outside? I want you to come
Speaker 1: outside because there's a lot of things going on and
Speaker 1: I want you to be a part of it as
Speaker 1: a as a fellow brother. There's a fifty cent tactics
Speaker 1: and how I did it, but forget how I didn't
Speaker 1: remember the remember the rest. So people if every day
Speaker 1: like I'm like, yes, because it's it's it's time, because
Speaker 1: you know what it is time for you to come
Speaker 1: outside this it's time for you the motherfucker claim what
Speaker 1: the funk is yours? You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: like I said, like I said in the beginning, and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know so some of us we get old,
Speaker 1: but we gotta never act old. You Known'stand I'm saying
Speaker 1: not because you as old as it fun you feel,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if you're gonna come
Speaker 1: outside like me, I'll be front like I got bad knees,
Speaker 1: but I really do. Up I'm saying is kind of
Speaker 1: us so, but I don't want to let that ship
Speaker 1: deterve who I am. I'm still getting up like a
Speaker 1: twenty eight year old. You know what I'm saying. And me,
Speaker 1: I want you to play You said play ball. I
Speaker 1: want you to play ball man, not just this battle
Speaker 1: boy life, my brother. You know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: really okay, But let me finish. Let me got more Creektown.
Speaker 1: That's some good ship because this ship is hit me now,
Speaker 1: this feeling warm. I'm feeling woman like you do. Remember
Speaker 1: BlackBerry branding? You remember BlackBerry branded back in the days
Speaker 1: that literally I didn't have I can't afford the co
Speaker 1: So that's where we that says I'll come, you know,
Speaker 1: funked up, you know, saying it couldn't afford the coach.
Speaker 1: So we used to drink BlackBerry Brandon with two sweaters
Speaker 1: and that was like a goose facts. Okay, um said
Speaker 1: even Bahama Dea. We said that. Yeah, okay, okay, Max's
Speaker 1: major or independent? Independent? I need the explanation farthest me
Speaker 1: right now? All independent? All right, blessing, because I'm going
Speaker 1: with your answer. But you had the most fun when
Speaker 1: he was on the major. Yeah, okay, let's not have
Speaker 1: the most fun, but at the same time, I believe.
Speaker 1: I believe right now with me, it don't make no
Speaker 1: sense to go with a major. I'd rather do independent
Speaker 1: and have a major support cash behind me. Oh uh,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what Rocket Feller was, um Will Smith
Speaker 1: or Kevin Hard Camera that's Fire Miami r l A
Speaker 1: Miami Good Choice nineties or two thousand Hip Hop nineties,
Speaker 1: jadea off five Jaded, Dr Dre Farrell, Big your Plan,
Speaker 1: Biggie too short, Ice cu Q, it's the last one,
Speaker 1: Guy Lebron or Jordan m Ja. I know he's just
Speaker 1: gonna say that you're support to give me some No,
Speaker 1: I ain't get a lot. They slipped up. I gotta
Speaker 1: gotta start easy stop monitoring and the ship. You know,
Speaker 1: you remember this is the story that I've told here
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Don't play. Did you know there
Speaker 1: was someone that impersonated you out here in Miami? You
Speaker 1: never heard the story when you said, Philly, that's the
Speaker 1: same ant lever that was Rockefeller that was doing promo.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's there was no there was
Speaker 1: someone that what whatever I was working def jam Rocket Feller.
Speaker 1: The street team is probably amazing had a store Crazy Goods.
Speaker 1: That's where you came and that's how we met. The
Speaker 1: ninety seven and I was the mixtape dude out here.
Speaker 1: It was a dude that was rolling around. This is
Speaker 1: when you was just doing mixtapes. Nobody had seen you yet.
Speaker 1: Oh that's how big a dude came. You come around.
Speaker 1: He was going to the clubs and at first he
Speaker 1: wasn't say nothing, and then just he just People just
Speaker 1: started like yo, who's the dudes? And he would get
Speaker 1: on the mic. He was spill a little bit and
Speaker 1: he favored your style and he started to say He
Speaker 1: would say like ship like. He wouldn't full blown stay
Speaker 1: he was you. He would just insinuate he was you. Listen,
Speaker 1: but no, it goes deep, it goes it goes crazy,
Speaker 1: it goes crazy. Listen on the radio. Hony went on
Speaker 1: the radio in person, naming you Callet. I think I
Speaker 1: told you, I think he didn't want to go. He
Speaker 1: went on the radio. He was just when cal was
Speaker 1: on Mixed ninety six, but that was our station at
Speaker 1: the time. He came to my store. He dropped freestyles
Speaker 1: and something didn't feel right. Something I I was gonna
Speaker 1: bring let me just let let me let the see.
Speaker 1: So I got these freestyles, I'm about to put it
Speaker 1: on my next mixtape, and I'm like, this don't feel right.
Speaker 1: So I call the person I dealt with that rocket Fill.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what does Beanie look like. He's like,
Speaker 1: here a big dude, this is skinny. I said, there's
Speaker 1: somebody out here right now saying he beat. And the
Speaker 1: next week he was gone. But he had did radio,
Speaker 1: he had did club appearances, he was hosting parties. It
Speaker 1: was a mixtapes, the Rockets in the building. I did
Speaker 1: the freestyle. I was like, yeah, I called up and
Speaker 1: he was gone. I don't know what happened that. You
Speaker 1: remember dream was there. He was and you didn't know neither.
Speaker 1: Every full calendar he was to stay at the station
Speaker 1: with Canadar. Holy shit, I remember you were telling me
Speaker 1: this story, but it's never be since just right now
Speaker 1: I got I found the pictures. I had to bless
Speaker 1: the internet though, like God, bless that. Just think about it.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, you know there's people who did
Speaker 1: that to us North Carolina. My mom's called me one
Speaker 1: day it was like, yo, I gotta show on Friday,
Speaker 1: and they showed me pictures. It was not component angle,
Speaker 1: So I'm glad to have it to you. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry with your pay so much, but I did.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. The internet has been Have you been able
Speaker 1: to utilize the Internet. I'm nah, I'm still getting used
Speaker 1: to that ship. This is while get out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I don't in that crazy. Yeah yeah, in that.
Speaker 1: I can't do it, not by my I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't do it. I got to hidek somebody do that?
Speaker 1: What you mean like an assistance like a post that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just to keep all that I can. You don't keep
Speaker 1: up with I had. I had an ill experience with it,
Speaker 1: Like right when uh ship? What was it? Was it
Speaker 1: Instagram or Facebook or one of them? In the beginning,
Speaker 1: like I did a uh guy set me up with
Speaker 1: it with the with the Graham and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: this ship work? So no, I was Facebook? Was one
Speaker 1: of them? Facebook? Twitter? So I put up something on
Speaker 1: it and then this is something you named murder homicide
Speaker 1: one eighties seven started going in on me your DM
Speaker 1: No on this ship. You can see it comments, the
Speaker 1: comments on the public and on your post like you post,
Speaker 1: and I started going back and forth. What Nick pull up.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like, what the I'm not, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: fucking with that ship because he found out who he was. No,
Speaker 1: he was a dude named Kennedy from Kennedy Strob somebody
Speaker 1: from whatever. But I didn't. I couldn't grash the concept
Speaker 1: of it. I'm not sure I could put this up
Speaker 1: at anybody can say what they want. Yeah, he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't look at it, and I'm like, what you
Speaker 1: mean this Nike talking? So I fell into this ship.
Speaker 1: Nobody puts you on the block button. No I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand none of that ship's up. No, not
Speaker 1: to block. This was always subsisted fresh. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to use this ship. I'm like, what is it like? No,
Speaker 1: everybody got it. You gotta get on this. You gotta
Speaker 1: do that. You're like, I'm gonna set you a page
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do all. I'm like all right. So
Speaker 1: he did everything and every day call him like, yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta put something out what you want to say.
Speaker 1: But but you know what's so crazy beings And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just tell you something. This is us coming from
Speaker 1: the environments that we come from. I bet you that
Speaker 1: one dude that you're talking about. There was ninety other
Speaker 1: ones who gave you compliments, but you didn't pay attention
Speaker 1: to that because you know why. It's like, it's like
Speaker 1: going on up the highway, and when the highway is flowing,
Speaker 1: it's nothing to look at. But if it's an accident,
Speaker 1: your shock and your look you understand I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's pretty much the same thing I thought. I thought,
Speaker 1: I said, thinking, just like you like your own fucking
Speaker 1: fucking yellow shirt black pasts call me and like yo, Norman,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, and I'm like, okay. But then
Speaker 1: I realized you're looking to due profile yellow certain black Pass.
Speaker 1: He's really fucked up in the game. He really he's
Speaker 1: had a hard time in life and he's just want
Speaker 1: to take it out somebody else. You understand, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But yellow Shirt dark Pass rule where you at? All right?
Speaker 1: Come to come to Windwood, man, This is where the
Speaker 1: food is. Man. We got Beanie secure right here. Save
Speaker 1: some beanie. Sekre makes some noise. Come on, maybe you're
Speaker 1: talking about the hard night life to it, man, Come
Speaker 1: on come in here, man, all right then? All right,
Speaker 1: one love brother, one love brother, all right, so, um,
Speaker 1: what we're talking about was into that about the internet
Speaker 1: and blocking people, yet he don't know what the and look,
Speaker 1: so what Willie. What I discovered was that we pay
Speaker 1: attention to the negative part of what's happening with us
Speaker 1: because it's just attracted to us. We just can't help it.
Speaker 1: We were used to prone the violence, were prone to,
Speaker 1: you know, reacting, We're prone to saying you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But then if you look at the same comments,
Speaker 1: out of the hundred comments you had ninety that was like, ops,
Speaker 1: you the motherfucking man. And we we we were so
Speaker 1: caught up in that one dude that says something like
Speaker 1: and he's a bolso, he's a bows Oh, he's a
Speaker 1: Boso Leano. Listen, the first for that boso was the first.
Speaker 1: The first time I remember murder back with some murdered killing,
Speaker 1: the first time ever. I'm standing, I'm I'm with my man, Alex.
Speaker 1: He set the page up, I put the picture boom
Speaker 1: as soon as I put it up the first time.
Speaker 1: So it's going off. You're like, you know, somebody commenting
Speaker 1: on it. This side work. He's the first person the
Speaker 1: death comment. First person. You nigga, you're about to go
Speaker 1: to jail, nigga, don't nobody fu And I'm like, what
Speaker 1: I'm Yo, the fuck ain't with that ship? You think
Speaker 1: it's a real killer. You're thinking this is I just
Speaker 1: didn't give it. I didn't know it. Jeffrey from Nebraska. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I feet for the same ship. I was done right there.
Speaker 1: I said, Man, that God damn. So I'm gonna actually,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually one word when I describe your albums. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the truth one thing you describe. You don't even have
Speaker 1: to give you one word. Whatever you with the truth
Speaker 1: to thousand, I respect that. The reason uh fingering that out,
Speaker 1: it's very mature, it's very mature answer to be coming.
Speaker 1: I died it complete. Yeah, I gotta complete the Solution.
Speaker 1: I'm done. I need expation. I'm done. What you mean
Speaker 1: by that? I thought The Solution is gonna be my
Speaker 1: last album in life. I was. I was when I
Speaker 1: was doing a Solution album, I was just making a
Speaker 1: transition in my life just you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, working on myself spiritually and everything,
Speaker 1: and it was like, yo, I'm done with this. Just
Speaker 1: I was leaving the rap period word. Yeah, that's well, Okay,
Speaker 1: the broad Street bullying a character character that's deep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this time leftovers expecations because I love left overs. I'm
Speaker 1: a doggy back type of next. Yeah, yeah, I'm about
Speaker 1: to say my thing is giving food for four days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this time, that project, it was, I was so light.
Speaker 1: It's like I was wrong. I knew I had to
Speaker 1: go to jail for this tax. Uh the tax situation.
Speaker 1: So you have two different situations. You had one situation.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of situations. I had a lot
Speaker 1: of situations, but you had the tax things. So that
Speaker 1: was just like, Uh, I had a bunch of hard
Speaker 1: drives with a bunch of music, and I just was
Speaker 1: taking stuff that I didn't finish or whatever presented to
Speaker 1: somebody like yo, take this project. Let me get that
Speaker 1: check real quick. So this time wasn't an album that
Speaker 1: I really worked on. That was just the only because
Speaker 1: I thought it was bullshit. But you know, looking at
Speaker 1: your face and seeing your expressions, you really telling me
Speaker 1: the Biggest Coming is the only album you really felt
Speaker 1: I really, yeah, that's the only album I would. I
Speaker 1: wasn't finished the truth and I wasn't finished the read.
Speaker 1: Like once I did the Truth, I said that's wrong
Speaker 1: because that's I'm learning. I don't know how to make
Speaker 1: an album. I didn't know. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: do I'm ship Ja had to show me how to
Speaker 1: jump bars. All right, let me ask you. But when
Speaker 1: you go back and listen to the truth, yeah, you
Speaker 1: realize that's the truth wrong. Okay. I can accept that
Speaker 1: it's raw and uncut. Okay, because after you hear it,
Speaker 1: you realize you didn't know how to make an album though, right,
Speaker 1: Oh no, because I felt like that with the Warrior Portram. No,
Speaker 1: I made it with guidance, with guidance, but I still
Speaker 1: made it. It's still your album, you understand, years my own.
Speaker 1: But it was a lot of uh yo, wrap on
Speaker 1: that wrap over this beat. But you're not ashamed of that,
Speaker 1: that's everthing. No, I'm not ashamed of it. But it
Speaker 1: was just, you know, I don't know. I thought that's
Speaker 1: how I went then that time progressions, it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, wasn't all the way you? Yeah? Why not
Speaker 1: all the way? It was? No? It was good. I
Speaker 1: was like, now I accepted a lot of them. Everyone
Speaker 1: that was on there was just you gotta people, you
Speaker 1: gotta think about the people. They were suggesting to you
Speaker 1: just Blaze probably wasn't just Blaze at the time, but
Speaker 1: guess who just Blaze is now? No, I'm just Blaze
Speaker 1: first placement. That's that's what talked about. This that ain't
Speaker 1: better nothing, just but what what working was that? Who
Speaker 1: the funk want? What? Man? Believe? Damn? You know, I
Speaker 1: got an ill story about that. Let's go, let's go
Speaker 1: get that. So are we here got that? Let's go,
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go, let's get some more at the
Speaker 1: cop don't worry about it. So uh, I think I
Speaker 1: walked into a meeting that Dan was having with the
Speaker 1: A and R S or whatever, and it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be you know, listening to new sticking getting beats, and
Speaker 1: he was grinding him up, and he was like he
Speaker 1: just was, you know, being dame and was in the
Speaker 1: storm ship. And I happened that, yeah, CDs, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, in the trash and all that, and
Speaker 1: just make that normal. I actually picked It's crazy where
Speaker 1: I picked a CD out out the box that was
Speaker 1: supposed to been discarded the trash and it and it
Speaker 1: just so happened to Ben just bade and when I
Speaker 1: pulled it out, stop stop yeah, it was in the trash.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so you in the office, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you just it's in the trash and you have been
Speaker 1: pick out the CD and this is just it was
Speaker 1: just dream not like in the garbage trash. I don't josh,
Speaker 1: it's next to it's not in the garbage, but it's
Speaker 1: it's next two weeks. Yeah, I was you was in
Speaker 1: the garbage beating and save your life. I'm sorry. That's
Speaker 1: that's my assess of Jess Blaze. That's it. So I
Speaker 1: picking joints out and it was a joint that was
Speaker 1: city and hip hop and and I don't know if
Speaker 1: hip grabbed that. I don't know if I grabbed it
Speaker 1: or hip hop grabbed it. But we was listening to
Speaker 1: a nigga's like no, and I'm like, Yo, no, they tripping.
Speaker 1: I'm like, play that other joint that and it was
Speaker 1: who the funk want what? And it was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I need that because I was vicious to go there
Speaker 1: and get with the and no, I'm like, Yo, what
Speaker 1: y'all gout? I'm trying. I want to hear everything. No, man,
Speaker 1: play me this ship. That's y'all statues all the time,
Speaker 1: No hip hop all my di all my albums. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was it was Jess Blade, So shout out
Speaker 1: the Blade. So just put you on man, Simpson Flowers
Speaker 1: got damn it all right now? So so all right, bom.
Speaker 1: But what he said said, play me the ship that
Speaker 1: you're stating for ja, Yeah, after you can pull to
Speaker 1: see the out, that's what you're told. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that if it was me or hip hop, but we
Speaker 1: was together, and I think hip hop. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, no, what's that joint right there?
Speaker 1: And it was it was just Blaine ship. I feel
Speaker 1: like Jess Blade's had a Nintendo bad Dad on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a weird though. Let begin just to
Speaker 1: be clear, I don't know, you know, weirdo. This is
Speaker 1: good ship, man, you know what I mean weird. It
Speaker 1: was a good ship. You know. It makes a noise
Speaker 1: for weird those weird to be part of it. I'm
Speaker 1: a part of it, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think for will describe me as a weird though. I
Speaker 1: swear to God, I think if you asked for he like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a weird though. Hanging around dudes and
Speaker 1: smoke bud and that's weird. I think you know. Let's
Speaker 1: move on. So you said you want to get back
Speaker 1: to Dame. Okay, Damon j There was a time in
Speaker 1: death Jam history right where I wasn't privileged to this information.
Speaker 1: You would probably proposed this information. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you were or maybe well I want you to answer.
Speaker 1: But it was a board on death Jam. Dame and
Speaker 1: Jay did not say they were breaking up, but they
Speaker 1: were breaking up. It was clear, and there was a list.
Speaker 1: It was death Jam Rockefeller and then d d G,
Speaker 1: d d MG Music Group, Dave DA Music Group. And
Speaker 1: when I walked in the building every day, it would
Speaker 1: be my name on the Dame Dash Music Group, but
Speaker 1: your name on the Dane Dash Music Group, and it'd
Speaker 1: be a couple of others in the Dane Dask Movie Group.
Speaker 1: And everyone else who didn't have to say so was
Speaker 1: under either Rocketfeller or death Jams. What happened was for me,
Speaker 1: Chris Likedy was not having it. Chris Lidy just kept
Speaker 1: erasing my name. That's how I wanted them kind of
Speaker 1: getting out of it. But how did it go from
Speaker 1: you your name being on Dame Dask Music Group almost
Speaker 1: every day till I believe you went on your own
Speaker 1: after that. I'm believe I was in jail. I was
Speaker 1: locked up. Okay, So when all that was happening, I was,
Speaker 1: I was I was away. Whoa damn I didn't realized. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was away. Also when that to the
Speaker 1: chop More hole ship oh ship? Yeah yah, but it
Speaker 1: looked like so the outside looking in, which is which?
Speaker 1: That's that looked like I was wrong with with with
Speaker 1: Dame Day. Yeah, but that wasn't that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: So okay, prior to you going to jail, Like right now,
Speaker 1: I have a business partner. We spoke today. We truting
Speaker 1: to speak for a couple of weeks, and they and
Speaker 1: I was telling them, like, you know sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: with certain people things and certain things, I'd be wanting
Speaker 1: paperwork moving forward because I've said such. And he goes,
Speaker 1: you know, these are my these are my friends. And
Speaker 1: I agree with that, you know what are my friends?
Speaker 1: But I said, but I said to him and said, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: Jay and David suing each other right now? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I had to tell them. I was like, yo, maybe
Speaker 1: you didn't see their relationship back then, and maybe a
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't see the relationship back then. But
Speaker 1: to me, I saw a little as brothers, like real,
Speaker 1: real brothers. I'm outside of looking at me. Did you
Speaker 1: ever think that it would be where it's at now? Like, yeah, whoa,
Speaker 1: So you knew you see discrepancies? Yeah, okay, okay, what
Speaker 1: was the first discrepancy you seeing that you knew this
Speaker 1: is unfixable? Uh? Damn, I don't really want to Just
Speaker 1: the personalities you de scrapped earlier. I mean from that
Speaker 1: you you just you just knew, you just knew it was.
Speaker 1: It was people less frequent in the office and in
Speaker 1: the studio, and it just was wearing what was was
Speaker 1: it attributed to dip set this is always a room
Speaker 1: or always I think it was deeper than that. I
Speaker 1: think all of them was just like thorns in the side,
Speaker 1: like this little ship, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, sometimes you outgrow people, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And when you locked on your mission,
Speaker 1: you gotta stay on that on that mission. Everybody can't go.
Speaker 1: I learned that over there over the years. And uh,
Speaker 1: besides all I think all that little ship like that's nothing,
Speaker 1: the depth set ship and all that ship like if
Speaker 1: ain't nobody sucking nobody wife or or doing this ship.
Speaker 1: I think everything should move like it's something. This is
Speaker 1: the mature beas that's talking, and I respect this. But
Speaker 1: back then, was it something that bothered? I mean, come on, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys were there putting in the blossed
Speaker 1: sweat and tears and their dame just announced his camera
Speaker 1: is just the president? Like that feels a little funny.
Speaker 1: I think it was where it was where you no
Speaker 1: phone cast was. Man, It's like, yo, what the fund
Speaker 1: is that? Because no phone calls was made prior to
Speaker 1: that anah at that time, if anybody that I believe,
Speaker 1: you know, if it was something you know, I wasn't
Speaker 1: in control and none of that, so that wasn't even
Speaker 1: my place. But I'm like, damn, like I believe anybody.
Speaker 1: Just just me thinking if anybody was to you know,
Speaker 1: if it was something that you know, it was being
Speaker 1: passed down to somebody, I believe Bleak should have had
Speaker 1: that before anybody. Well, I think you're gonna see it.
Speaker 1: So nah, Bleek was there. But for me, you know,
Speaker 1: besides all that accolates and the music and the success
Speaker 1: anything we're talking about, we're talking about the crew and
Speaker 1: squad like he was next in line. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying for me even though I came, I did
Speaker 1: what I did, But Bleak was that, you know, that's
Speaker 1: w he was thereble for me. So that's how I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it. So it's like, you know, what the
Speaker 1: funk going on? Like ship like that. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's about to get goofy because ahead, you know, not
Speaker 1: knowing what you know what I mean I ama to
Speaker 1: do with that shot. So because I think Cameron came
Speaker 1: up here and said, um, that you stepped to him
Speaker 1: one day, right, yeah, And he said that because he
Speaker 1: because he said on one of six and part excuse me?
Speaker 1: What do he said? He said, it's like, yo, you're
Speaker 1: the president of death Jam. How about the other people?
Speaker 1: And he was like, yo, you know I just handling
Speaker 1: in eyes and whatever they do and they're doing. And
Speaker 1: I think he said he stepped to him. My baseline,
Speaker 1: it was like, yo, yeah he said something like I
Speaker 1: don't know. He said he said something about mail whatever,
Speaker 1: uh not uh, not knowing the business or something like that. True,
Speaker 1: but you know, I just told him, true that you
Speaker 1: didn't know the business or true that no I didn't conversation. No,
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't not so uh yeah, cam came through.
Speaker 1: I ain't know so, but when he said it was
Speaker 1: like I felt this or whatever he said, it ain't
Speaker 1: had to go you know what I mean to the public.
Speaker 1: So I just it was I'm trying to answer this
Speaker 1: because it was it was converse because I saw the
Speaker 1: cam interview and Cam was right like it was when
Speaker 1: he said he came room and people were talking. He
Speaker 1: was they was talking. So I'm just the type of
Speaker 1: person like when he when he went it when the
Speaker 1: interview came, everything he said was correct when he say,
Speaker 1: you knew people was talking. The reason why I said
Speaker 1: something between because I wanted them to know, like I'm
Speaker 1: not with that like anything I said, I can repeat it,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't with no bits ship And you know,
Speaker 1: it's up to whoever that was in the room, you know,
Speaker 1: to say what they said. Nobody said nothing, so it's
Speaker 1: like anybody's gonna say nothing to it. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm a soldier. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm if you if you put it in that
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. I followed orders That's
Speaker 1: why I felt that my job wasn't It's like, all right,
Speaker 1: what you want me to do, I'm gonna move out.
Speaker 1: That's how I can. That's how I thought it was supported.
Speaker 1: That's how it was. So. Yeah, it was like damn
Speaker 1: when Cam came in and it got quiet, like he's
Speaker 1: not gonna leave and be like, yeah, I'm making it's
Speaker 1: something that everybody got quiet when I came. Now I
Speaker 1: got to do say something you know, may listen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what's up with this situation? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: And it just I don't know what what I said
Speaker 1: or what what's said. But in getting left, just to
Speaker 1: let him know, like yeah, Nick, just talking about you
Speaker 1: cause yeah, keeping it honest, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But or me and wasn't on on Miles Tip, not
Speaker 1: towards Cam, you know what I'm saying, Not towards because
Speaker 1: for real, for real, Kim used to give me a
Speaker 1: lot of fucking game that I didn't know if Farthern
Speaker 1: swent that how I should be moving with my squad
Speaker 1: was stayed property. Like he used to tell me a
Speaker 1: lot of ship that now you should do this, you
Speaker 1: should do that. And I used to watch can make
Speaker 1: a lot of moves that he was to make. He
Speaker 1: was like, I'm telling you get your niggas. So so
Speaker 1: I function with cam No. One of the famous rumors
Speaker 1: is the reason that you and Ja fell out was
Speaker 1: that this these famous times with Dame Dashes bringing people
Speaker 1: to the court, to bring these famous people to the court.
Speaker 1: Believe I may carry came one time or maybe that's
Speaker 1: the movie. I'm not sure, beyont who I'm not far off.
Speaker 1: So there is this rumor at one time that Jay
Speaker 1: I don't understand or whatever, and they asked him, um,
Speaker 1: would you be responsible yeah for beings? And he said no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the truth, absolute truth. So what my state did
Speaker 1: that put you in? Did that put you because there's
Speaker 1: two things that I'm thinking. You could think, damn, let's
Speaker 1: do this foul. Or now, as an older person, you
Speaker 1: could probably say, you know what, I was a little
Speaker 1: out of control, Maybe I gotta take accountable. But at
Speaker 1: that time, I'm sure you wasn't thinking like that. What
Speaker 1: what was going through your mind at that time? It
Speaker 1: was all right? Put it like this rocket fellow Recus
Speaker 1: was the only thing that I've ever been a part
Speaker 1: of that I thought I was honest, this is just dope. Ill,
Speaker 1: Like niggas really fucked with me for what it was like,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I was. I'm from South Phully,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean nigga smiles ship, Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Praying next to you, turn around and
Speaker 1: blow your head off like he said, smile, take your hand,
Speaker 1: pray next to you and all that vicious. That's where
Speaker 1: I come from. And kill you, wash your body, kill
Speaker 1: your son and for the kid with your daughter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where I come from. That's the world that I
Speaker 1: that I lived in. So me being with Rockefeller, the
Speaker 1: law familiar. I held onto that. It's like I got
Speaker 1: something and you know what I mean, And it's like
Speaker 1: these niggas got me and they don't want ship from me.
Speaker 1: They just want me to do this this music. They
Speaker 1: got me, and that's all I asked. You got me.
Speaker 1: That's where I came from. I never looked at me
Speaker 1: having a career. I never looked at the business. It
Speaker 1: was lie familiar life, familiar life, familiar, We have family,
Speaker 1: all you have to do. You got me. So at
Speaker 1: that time him, when uh, you know, I'm going to
Speaker 1: court and we all were about to be on tour.
Speaker 1: We're on tour, so hold another tour. Yeah, we want
Speaker 1: we want to hold another tour. So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm going for my bail hair and the fairs. And
Speaker 1: the judge asked, Jay, you know everybody's saying all these
Speaker 1: good things and all that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the character witnesses, dame and you know mind everybody saying
Speaker 1: and even Jay said a whole lot of good things
Speaker 1: about me. And the judge was gonna let me go monitor,
Speaker 1: and she said, you know, would you be willing And
Speaker 1: that's the part that people wouldn't. Would you be willing
Speaker 1: to be responsible for his whereabouts, not be responsible for
Speaker 1: my actions just as whereabouts? Would you be willing to
Speaker 1: do that? Provide us with all the information, you know,
Speaker 1: saying that he's gonna be here and there, there there
Speaker 1: and after all that good ship And he said no.
Speaker 1: But it was like the way he said it, and
Speaker 1: he put his head thing. He was like, no, I've
Speaker 1: never been crushed like that in my life, because I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is my man, like hey, and I looked at
Speaker 1: it at the time. I looked at it like all right, no,
Speaker 1: he what if I had to get the funk out
Speaker 1: of there. I mean jail, I'm still tall all my ship,
Speaker 1: But what if I really needed to go? This was
Speaker 1: going in my mind get like yeah, like, bro, I
Speaker 1: had attempted murder and in the state and the federal
Speaker 1: gun charge and all this ship the forty years it's over.
Speaker 1: This is our face of forty years. What if I
Speaker 1: hey my mom, thinking like damn, what if I really
Speaker 1: need the rule M be on the running go like
Speaker 1: I'm from like this is my man and I love him.
Speaker 1: If he skipped that, no, I'm getting my man. I'm
Speaker 1: getting him out by any means necessary. So for need
Speaker 1: to look him in his eyes. And I'm sitting I'm
Speaker 1: shackled rand the whist ankles and everything, and a man
Speaker 1: was like no, like that was that that? I don't
Speaker 1: even like? That was just funk. That was that sucked
Speaker 1: me up. It took everything in me not to like
Speaker 1: let when you go like that was like that was
Speaker 1: that took away a lot of ship that I thought
Speaker 1: that that we had, Like that's a big bro. Ja
Speaker 1: was the only person guy I ever we had had.
Speaker 1: We had an incident at Baseline Studios and uh, I
Speaker 1: was you know, indulged in in my leisure pleasures, say
Speaker 1: that I was in dogs and that South mad intellectual love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like dogs and I was in dogs and
Speaker 1: in my leisure pleasures, and you know I was feeling good.
Speaker 1: You know, and Lawrence, my chain. Somebody took my chain
Speaker 1: off my neck while you were sleeping, because yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like somebody took the chaine. So I just came
Speaker 1: from like Atlantic City, like two days and it's like
Speaker 1: fun that we're going to the studio. So I just
Speaker 1: to a c The cracks probably went like being something,
Speaker 1: so I got like a hunt. Let me assume that
Speaker 1: you automatically thought as Brooklyn Niggers. Now I didn't know
Speaker 1: who the funk. So so it was harder could be
Speaker 1: in the air to anybody. It was somebody. Somebody had
Speaker 1: his baseline. Somebody had to let somebody you hadn't know
Speaker 1: the cold to get in this sort building like ship.
Speaker 1: Nothing commissing out of hisstum. So my chain. And when
Speaker 1: I when I when I wake up, I'm looking on
Speaker 1: the floors and all these other out of bills on
Speaker 1: the floor. Money in my pocket. Your money is money.
Speaker 1: So they I'm in the bat room, so I dip
Speaker 1: off in the bat room do my thing, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh So this is like maybe six and six in
Speaker 1: the morning, six thirty in the morning, and ship you're
Speaker 1: waking up. Yeah, but I've been in there for two
Speaker 1: days streight recording. Okay, two day straight recorder. Not two
Speaker 1: days straight. No, I'm in the two days street recording.
Speaker 1: So I you know, I'm gonna go down, take me
Speaker 1: a little that real quick, and go back at it,
Speaker 1: because that's how used. That's how I record. Like I
Speaker 1: go in the studio, I be in there for days.
Speaker 1: So uh, I come out, I'm looking and see all
Speaker 1: the money on the floor like that. So that's the
Speaker 1: first thing that I'm thinking, Like the fun I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I just dropped it out of my pocket. So when
Speaker 1: I started counting it, they went into your pockets. I'm like,
Speaker 1: money going I wake up, Like damn, So I asked me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that's some momside. All who came into
Speaker 1: who came in the bat room. Everybody see I'm waking,
Speaker 1: Nigga's up, everybody's with me, everybody's sleep. So they're like, man,
Speaker 1: my uh, somebody say, Mac, you was drawn. You probably
Speaker 1: win your pocket or something. You dropped that money Nigga's
Speaker 1: trying to go back to seat nigga. When is we leaving?
Speaker 1: That's where everybody want to know, because I you know,
Speaker 1: I kid not nigga. Yeah, I kid not said when
Speaker 1: is we leaving? Something like man, where the funk? I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: so I can't like no, like it was like six
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars missing out my pocket. Bro, Like I
Speaker 1: ain't trumping, I ain't down. So then I looked at him.
Speaker 1: It's like like, are you sure you got all your ship?
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, And then it hit me it was
Speaker 1: like but where you put your ship at? So now
Speaker 1: I looked him like, you know, I ain't paying the
Speaker 1: mom like yo, who got my change? So everybody like no,
Speaker 1: I an't got to change. So I'm like oh. That's
Speaker 1: when it was like, oh, I'm like, nah, hold the
Speaker 1: funk up? I wait, everybody up and the studio. Who
Speaker 1: the funk came in here last night? Nobody don't know nothing.
Speaker 1: So they got they was on the same ship with
Speaker 1: It's YouTube they were they were sleeping too. No, they
Speaker 1: just was there. They weren't. They just was sleep because
Speaker 1: I had him up for two days like the studio.
Speaker 1: Long story short my ship got missing. Nobody had no answers.
Speaker 1: I know for a fact. Can nobody come up this elevator.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a cold, and not even cold, and
Speaker 1: it's camp. You can't show me no footage nothing. And
Speaker 1: even if you got the cold, they come up the elevator,
Speaker 1: you still gotta get buzzed in. All right. They had
Speaker 1: a remodel baseline. Yeah, everybody, it just got crazy in
Speaker 1: that joint. So I remember Jay, they must have called
Speaker 1: and was like yoways got goofy and all that. So
Speaker 1: it's before he was like, Yo, what the funk? I'm like, nigga,
Speaker 1: somebody just took my change, like came in and they
Speaker 1: ain't telling me. I ain't trying and none of that
Speaker 1: ship bu my hung up, Barny and he called back,
Speaker 1: and it's the first time I was like he was
Speaker 1: like yo, he said he checked me, like yo, since
Speaker 1: don't you remember. I don't remember exactly what he said,
Speaker 1: but he was the first person like that ever like
Speaker 1: put me like in my place. Just before all of
Speaker 1: the trial and all that. He was like, don't you
Speaker 1: ever hang up on me? And I felt it and
Speaker 1: it was like damn, like that's big bro. I couldn't
Speaker 1: do nothing. I felt like so, so I'm sorry that bond.
Speaker 1: So it's the first time he didn't feel like a
Speaker 1: big girl was It was no that right there, like.
Speaker 1: But the reason why I'm saying that story because I
Speaker 1: took that like big bro, like he fuck on Jane me,
Speaker 1: not like he was like, and I'm like, damn he
Speaker 1: checking me. Everybody I can checked sometimes everybody not a
Speaker 1: ball to that. And you know what, some people just
Speaker 1: write you off. You know what, they ain't gonna deal
Speaker 1: with you no more than I let you wild out
Speaker 1: and do all that and just write you off. No,
Speaker 1: he was like one like I didn't take it as
Speaker 1: like he. I took it like you know, the big
Speaker 1: homie he checked me. So I had that law point
Speaker 1: like any anybody couldn't do that. Fuck what you say, well,
Speaker 1: let's get it. But it wasn't like that. It was like, damn,
Speaker 1: big homie checked me. I wore that, So I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: like they't do that. He fox with me heavy. But
Speaker 1: that situation when he was like, nah, I had to
Speaker 1: go back to that cell and I know the same people.
Speaker 1: You know, it's saying, yeah, but you was wild and
Speaker 1: live by But you gotta understand the facts though. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what what if I was what if I was
Speaker 1: bother was tripping and I needed to get out of
Speaker 1: that jail the brig would you do that? Say? If
Speaker 1: you put it like that, get in the sun. I've done,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I've done. It's different for me. I've
Speaker 1: done it already, but I've never I'm not, you know,
Speaker 1: helping him out in this situation. I'm not telling them
Speaker 1: that what he should have done I didn't do. But
Speaker 1: ship like I got federal problems. I got because one
Speaker 1: of them, one of one of my man's was going
Speaker 1: to get the triple homicide. He was when the first
Speaker 1: person to have the death penalty, and the FATS came
Speaker 1: to me and told me not to testify on his behalf.
Speaker 1: Like when your name come up in the case. It's
Speaker 1: two different things that they could testify that they could
Speaker 1: they could testify you be the state's witness, or your
Speaker 1: homies can make me testify on they behalf. And I
Speaker 1: did that, and trust me, I've received all the consequences
Speaker 1: for that. Now. In your situation, I was, I was
Speaker 1: with you all the time, But as I got older
Speaker 1: and I realized how out of control. Not only you
Speaker 1: were me were a plunn were like we were just
Speaker 1: young people at that time. I do understand it. I
Speaker 1: understand yeah, but you know you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's why I said what I said. I when I
Speaker 1: told you, like everybody can't go like I believe at
Speaker 1: that time, like Javis thinking like I was too like
Speaker 1: unpredictable because there's anything that happened, Like I'm on tour,
Speaker 1: I got seen guns and I'm leaving pistols in hotel
Speaker 1: rooms under not under mine, under rocket full of name
Speaker 1: and yeah John John mcmilli a piece of ship because yeah,
Speaker 1: this nigger called me one day. I leave uh a
Speaker 1: four or five Kimbler, and I don't worry if I
Speaker 1: leave it leave it's guns hold allegedly Allegedly it was.
Speaker 1: It was it was. It was a gun that was
Speaker 1: and the and addresses drawer in the hotel and weirds
Speaker 1: on tour. It's nothing in it. No, I didn't want
Speaker 1: it back, but I received a phone call and from
Speaker 1: somebody and was like, and I knew somebody else was
Speaker 1: on the line, and I knew, like after two states later,
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, I'm like, I'm asking my man like, yo,
Speaker 1: you get the gym. It's like no, well, I said,
Speaker 1: oh ship. So I get a phone call. So after
Speaker 1: I guess the house keep become clean up the room
Speaker 1: and ship they must have find it, I get a
Speaker 1: phone call from Johnson Nelly. I have no idea. I mean, like, ya,
Speaker 1: I think you left something and and it was like, no,
Speaker 1: only nothing. You're thinking the police on the line. So
Speaker 1: I'm like he was like you sure about that? We
Speaker 1: got you? He was like, yeah, I think you you
Speaker 1: you left something, and uh, I ain't need nothing because
Speaker 1: you know what he's trying to say. Yeah, And it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: what the fund is you trying to do? But what
Speaker 1: why the fuck is you calling me asking me about
Speaker 1: a pistol that was left in the old town room
Speaker 1: and you keep talking about some hold on and you're
Speaker 1: talking to somebody. Yeah, so all that ship playing part
Speaker 1: of it. You know, I was I was bucking. I
Speaker 1: was budding, he was bucking. You is doing that? You
Speaker 1: ain't think it? You know, I ain't thinking that ship
Speaker 1: like uh freezer. So you know I'm saying all that
Speaker 1: to say I know I was out of pocket, like
Speaker 1: I was uncontrollable, and and and I'm saying you touched
Speaker 1: on it earlier. Um, and you think that it was
Speaker 1: because Lean to me, right, doesn't seem like an addictive job.
Speaker 1: And my bucket is it me that? Yeah? Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it? What a? It doesn't seem addictive to me.
Speaker 1: It is what you take with it. Okay. See a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand, all right, Lean, The only
Speaker 1: narcotic and Lean is is cod which is this? You
Speaker 1: gotta take a lot though it's cold. And where these
Speaker 1: kids is going now? And they I tell them, like
Speaker 1: they're not really drinking lean, y'all, y'all drinking lane, but
Speaker 1: y'all really addicted to the pills. They addicted to them
Speaker 1: thirties and them rocking sets. That's they take it with
Speaker 1: it and take it with it, get add to it.
Speaker 1: But all of it is goofy like all of it
Speaker 1: is just I wouldn't suggested to nobody you hear the
Speaker 1: mute first time you're sipping, you might get addicted. You
Speaker 1: don't know my eyes Peah notes, did this guy out
Speaker 1: of hand? You were going hard at one time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: super hard. Yeah, and at that time I think he
Speaker 1: was drinking yellow Yeah. Um, that was called scissor no shirt,
Speaker 1: but the same ship, the same okay, all right, because
Speaker 1: because the first time I heard of it was April
Speaker 1: m j G. And then the second time was Monia,
Speaker 1: but I never got to see him. But this see
Speaker 1: in Philly, Philadelphia, y'all. I was really really up on
Speaker 1: that Originators, Originators before Texas and before Memphis. I mean, win, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he breaked down the story. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you
Speaker 1: know the break out some foul ship. But if originated it, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta take the favor. Nah before we Jay Street
Speaker 1: if you know your history used to typen up. It's
Speaker 1: one of from tire. But I muna say that for
Speaker 1: something else, for a documentary for four or four movie.
Speaker 1: But Ship, well, I was that because you got me
Speaker 1: all over the place. Philadelphia was the first people that
Speaker 1: um the Jay Street and you said you said something
Speaker 1: else enough, But it was Philadelphia before Memphis and before Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. No, I heard that a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just a Philadelphia thing. When I
Speaker 1: heard it in in They in They music. When it
Speaker 1: came out, I was like, oh ship they down. It
Speaker 1: was like shocking to me. Yeah, but it was it
Speaker 1: was Memphis in here and sipping on some sisters like
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Yeah, yeah it was. It was
Speaker 1: weird like like they but the way they do it
Speaker 1: is different than all that they mix it with the
Speaker 1: shoulder and all that. It's wrong overall straight up. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: she's the use cheese, make some noise, some sis. No,
Speaker 1: I don't mean so sorry. So what made you stop?
Speaker 1: We made you? What made you made you say? I'm
Speaker 1: not working with that. I mean, you know, you grew
Speaker 1: out a lot of ship because I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: the first time we ever kind of started taking this
Speaker 1: serious was Prempcy. Yeah was that a time where you
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, because like we try to
Speaker 1: ignore it, but most people say that that is attributed.
Speaker 1: I mean some people. You know, I can't speak on
Speaker 1: uh Like I said, that was just one of my
Speaker 1: leisier pleasures. Like you know, you you you anything you're
Speaker 1: indulge in, you gotta know your limitations. And I think
Speaker 1: right now we're in a we're in a space where
Speaker 1: people just just ages. It ain't no limitations or nothing.
Speaker 1: There's no rules, there's no parameters, there's nothing in place,
Speaker 1: and you know, you got we were in the uh
Speaker 1: no boundaries. There's no uh, there's no repercussions for your actions.
Speaker 1: Nobody nobody's being held accountable for anything that they do,
Speaker 1: and everybody is I think we're in a space where
Speaker 1: people is lacking an identity of who they are, so
Speaker 1: they just following you know, everybody else, and there's these
Speaker 1: things like this. That's why when you say about these devices,
Speaker 1: these things, I can't really get with because I believe
Speaker 1: we're in the space right now where don't nobody know
Speaker 1: exactly who they are? And that's the question I think
Speaker 1: you could ask, You should ask people on your joint,
Speaker 1: like who are you not only that these things make
Speaker 1: us stupid? You know, back in the days you got
Speaker 1: locked up, you knew everybody's everybody. I can't. I don't
Speaker 1: even I don't, I don't know. I just know, mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. I just know, mom,
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, like, oh, this ship
Speaker 1: and the smarter, Uh, this ship gets the dumb my
Speaker 1: we actually because but um, okay, so moving on right
Speaker 1: boom um this thing happens in court. Yeah, do you
Speaker 1: hang out after that or you don't? You don't really
Speaker 1: see him? Back ninety Jan so I got in jail
Speaker 1: and what what what? What time? Is this? What album?
Speaker 1: It was probably by like h to add this was
Speaker 1: like oh see let's say like oh far okay, So
Speaker 1: do you have this conversation like do you put them
Speaker 1: to the side and say you know? Bit on me?
Speaker 1: I felt a little you know what I mean, Na,
Speaker 1: it was, uh we never had that conversation. You know,
Speaker 1: do you wish you would have had that conversation? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I wanted to hear from like you know that
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear it from him, like where would
Speaker 1: you act? Like who's up with? You know? You want that?
Speaker 1: And I think that that that was a lot that uh,
Speaker 1: that weighed on me, just a lack of having not
Speaker 1: being able to had that conversation that was like funked
Speaker 1: up to me, like the again, what's up? Like when
Speaker 1: you can't talk so and I think lack of communication
Speaker 1: is it's it's key man, You've got to have some
Speaker 1: type of communication, Like I don't want to hear a
Speaker 1: message from Lenny Es. I felt it's though, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean that I can have that conversation, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I mean I couldn't right
Speaker 1: but after he said, no, yeah, I felt entitled. He
Speaker 1: was calling shock, he was calling all these people and
Speaker 1: they just like, yo, what's upping like? And I couldn't
Speaker 1: have that. But you know as I got, you know, old,
Speaker 1: older and pastic like that, that entitlement thing, that's a
Speaker 1: dangerous joint man. That's that like entire like me, this
Speaker 1: is just my pep and my experience it entitlement. And
Speaker 1: I want to say the entitlement is like the thief
Speaker 1: of hard work and prosperity and grind like when you
Speaker 1: feel entitled, that could fuck you up. That could suck
Speaker 1: you up more than that lean ship was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the thief a hard work and progression man. That's
Speaker 1: facts that ain't nothing like that which goes with question.
Speaker 1: That ship can leads you to the Prussia, all kinds
Speaker 1: of ship that that tileman thing is a dangerous thing
Speaker 1: to play with. It all funked you up like in
Speaker 1: life for real, like and you know I had to
Speaker 1: learn that soon. Me understanding that and then looking back
Speaker 1: and then watching ship like I said to continue what
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, you know, I look back now
Speaker 1: and watch it and it's like that everybody can't go
Speaker 1: what's meant for you, You're gonna have it. What ain't
Speaker 1: meant for you? Gonna miss you all day. But I
Speaker 1: believe Jay was on a mission, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And I respect him for that. As I sit back
Speaker 1: and I watched, and I said, man, Jay was on
Speaker 1: because I remember I started revisiting some of our conversations
Speaker 1: that we would have of a dynasty. Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: like that. Join I hated that bull love the movie.
Speaker 1: I hated how they watched a yeah, because you never
Speaker 1: watched it. Oh no, you should watch it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, Well, everybody need another year. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: They're so accurate and playing with with they're playing, but
Speaker 1: it kind of winds up being not accurate but close
Speaker 1: to it, and it's like it's like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was trying to tell my partner
Speaker 1: the other day, Like, if you look at that movie,
Speaker 1: they made that movie because they thought they would never
Speaker 1: break up, So they're making fun of something that would
Speaker 1: never happen. You think about it, did they really? It
Speaker 1: was too close? They think that's like that's like that's
Speaker 1: like me and you say, you know, we're gonna break up.
Speaker 1: Let's make a movie about it were doing. I mean,
Speaker 1: just the way he's even talking about seeing it from before.
Speaker 1: This is before, before, This is before the before, This
Speaker 1: is before, This is almost right before the private jets.
Speaker 1: This is it was pretty close, man, It's pretty close.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, they were that cocky that they
Speaker 1: made a movie about something they knew what happened to them.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, they knew wouldn't happen to them. That's
Speaker 1: how cocky they. Well, I'm just telling me on my
Speaker 1: outside of looking at it, he could tell me no one, yes,
Speaker 1: right now, I think it's accurate. I was. I'm in
Speaker 1: the all of the movies too. I'm in Paper Sold
Speaker 1: just something. I'm in all of the movie. So I'm
Speaker 1: telling you so like, because it really was a dynasty
Speaker 1: to us from the outside. Then so and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm like beating a dead horse. But what was the
Speaker 1: moment where you realize I know you said it earlier
Speaker 1: that you. I said, yo, did you think that they
Speaker 1: would be where they at right now? And you said yeah,
Speaker 1: But what was the moment the exact moment that you
Speaker 1: realize damn, this is old one like? And you said
Speaker 1: It wasn't dip set. You're already cleared. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think that just was part it was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of things. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I don't know, like, uh,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I tell you everything. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, But say what you came to
Speaker 1: that ain't my business man? You know it is because
Speaker 1: it's it's I used to think it was my business.
Speaker 1: Oh well, when it's pertaining to you, pertaining to you,
Speaker 1: it's it's your business, not the overall rocket Feller. No,
Speaker 1: this was a lot of things that this was happening.
Speaker 1: And I believe, like I said, Jay was on the
Speaker 1: mission where J now j j J was on the
Speaker 1: meant one nothing stopping it from getting there. And you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't let nothing get in your way when you
Speaker 1: gotta gold. You're trying to set a goal sometimes you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you gotta do the like I'm
Speaker 1: a perfect example with keeping the world go wrong. Like
Speaker 1: when I got on, like I was trying to bring
Speaker 1: everybody with me, come on, let's go, Yeah, everybody, you
Speaker 1: can't do that. You can't do that, like it's impossible
Speaker 1: to do that because dudes gotta wait in the car
Speaker 1: get Some dudes got not even get. He didn't getting
Speaker 1: the car. You just gotta stay in the crib and
Speaker 1: you gotta send something Dad. You gotta not even even
Speaker 1: figure it out from the south, even if you got lovers.
Speaker 1: You just gotta understand that when you want a mission
Speaker 1: and you handling business and you gotta go, it's things
Speaker 1: that you gotta that that takes steps. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I come, I come from the nigger world. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm I'm you know, I got family.
Speaker 1: But when at that time and rocket fell it, like
Speaker 1: you know, I I didn't have no kids. I had children,
Speaker 1: but they were small, so I didn't understand the whole
Speaker 1: thing about the the parent ain't and all that because
Speaker 1: I come from a broken home, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And so it was just me. I was just living
Speaker 1: for me. That's how I was. Like I left my
Speaker 1: home when I was thirteen. I was out there. So
Speaker 1: when you got missions, you have set shut up, like
Speaker 1: when you gotta go to your accompanies, like first and foremost,
Speaker 1: family come first, and then you gotta understand and realize
Speaker 1: there's a difference between family and relatives. So you got
Speaker 1: that part right there. I had you like twisted. So
Speaker 1: you gotta comb through that ship. Then you can look
Speaker 1: out with the homies and all that as you do.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't understand, like when you
Speaker 1: want the mission, like everybody just can't go because it
Speaker 1: could be something that can be innocent. But if you're
Speaker 1: this part of the entourage and something happened, you could
Speaker 1: funk up this ship overhead, and we can't fuck that
Speaker 1: ship up because if you fuck it up, you can say,
Speaker 1: all right, my bad, but you're sucking it up for everybody.
Speaker 1: Y'all steps in line too, you know, benefit off of
Speaker 1: your hard work, so you know, like everybody can do.
Speaker 1: I think Jay was on a mission. He was trying
Speaker 1: to complish something and it was just a bunch of
Speaker 1: ship that was in away of where he was trying
Speaker 1: to accomplish, Like even within the business, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, ship was getting funked up. You know, rock
Speaker 1: and were was it was a lot of it was.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fund state property stay probably closed.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot of funds that I that that
Speaker 1: that was being used for a lot of ship that
Speaker 1: wasn't a part of a part of this. Let's get
Speaker 1: back to that, to to that estate properly closed. Mommy,
Speaker 1: if you can't, please but um feeling in the air,
Speaker 1: you said one of the craziest lines that ever. You said,
Speaker 1: your hand shape ain't matching your smile. Yeah, it's an
Speaker 1: amazing line. I know what you mean, but you're not
Speaker 1: even though you're talking to me, you're not talking to
Speaker 1: me talking to millions of people. Can please explain that
Speaker 1: to the people who don't understand that everybody that shakes
Speaker 1: your hand isn't your friends? Nah, but please can you can?
Speaker 1: You can? I mean you just you just say that
Speaker 1: every body that ship in you know, you're knowing that bad.
Speaker 1: Everybody you know smile and they wouldn't shake your hand,
Speaker 1: and they want to take you to DNA. Ain't eat.
Speaker 1: I don't want to eat. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: to now and I don't want I don't know. I'm cool,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. You know, after while,
Speaker 1: you start seeing ship that ain't for what it is,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh ship, and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch for that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The windows, the souls of the eyes. So I read
Speaker 1: between all of those that your eyes is the windows
Speaker 1: to your soul. What I'm liking, I just called a
Speaker 1: dyslexic moment. Like you, I'm just like yell. We just
Speaker 1: read people like you know, you know, handshakes and all that.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody might give you to make you write
Speaker 1: that ball that's a specific particular ball when handshake ain't matching,
Speaker 1: it's was that someone someone specific? Was that someone specifical
Speaker 1: that it was? It was I was talking to a
Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people in that like,
Speaker 1: all right, uh that I think I did. I can't
Speaker 1: go on. I think I recorded I can't go on
Speaker 1: this way and fill it in the air. At the
Speaker 1: same time, I was doing both of those records. So
Speaker 1: if you listen to them, if you listen to him,
Speaker 1: you know something going on. I feel funny. You can't
Speaker 1: tell me nothing different. My nose switching, my intuition is set.
Speaker 1: And then like Steve vision, you know, he can't you know, man,
Speaker 1: I still close my eyes, I still see visions. Still
Speaker 1: hear a voice in the back of my mind. I mean,
Speaker 1: is I'm the breakup is coming? Oh I didn't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's coming. It's there like and can't go on this
Speaker 1: way the biggering, trust, honor, devotion, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Krmer Team US, rock solid, damn the Evils. Wow, I
Speaker 1: can't go yeah with no union you know, and and
Speaker 1: no benefits, no dental plans. I can't eat off the
Speaker 1: underground cavities that need feeling. I can't feed the nigga
Speaker 1: peanut shoes. Put your feet up in the nigga shoes.
Speaker 1: I lack of green and giving nigga blues a sip
Speaker 1: of that purple and make a nigger rule. It will
Speaker 1: make a drunk person speaking sober too. If you put
Speaker 1: puppies in that oven, do they're making bise kids? You
Speaker 1: put horree dogs in the kitchen when they eat the kittens?
Speaker 1: Do you hear me or you listening? It's a big difference.
Speaker 1: Do you catch my lines of the looks? That's why
Speaker 1: I don't know why you even called me off for drink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that ship, like when I sit there in the Evils,
Speaker 1: it's like that. You listen to the Evils. With Jay Rocker,
Speaker 1: it was like him and his homie, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. They used to fight over you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, building blocks that ain't fighting for blocks for
Speaker 1: buildings that make it killing. It was him and his homie.
Speaker 1: It was tight. So I said the evils because it
Speaker 1: was it was this and then it fell apart and
Speaker 1: then it was ship and it just was like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't care when that back. That's that. That was
Speaker 1: the best thing I've ever been a part of. It's
Speaker 1: besides my marriage, you know what I'm saying. It's great
Speaker 1: to hear you say that because you know that explains
Speaker 1: like most of the descripacies that you had with Jay
Speaker 1: is because it really wasn't a described ship. It was
Speaker 1: you know what it is. It was. It was because
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk somebody, big brother, Like I said,
Speaker 1: this is the first person that I ever really liked,
Speaker 1: Uh checked me and could check me like that, checked
Speaker 1: me like want some And I loved it that the
Speaker 1: fact that that made me love Jay Moore that he
Speaker 1: would you know what I'm saying, Nigga, don't you ever?
Speaker 1: And it's funny because my man, uh, because he was
Speaker 1: just like like like, for lack of a better term,
Speaker 1: every beef at that time, Rockefeller had everyone knew if
Speaker 1: you had people Rockefeller, yeah, you gotta beef. For bees.
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm coming, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm coming. We can't
Speaker 1: say nothing about big brother. So how did you go
Speaker 1: from there to um, you know we know the court thing,
Speaker 1: but you've seen each other after that. Yeah, So what
Speaker 1: was the part where you said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: want to go in and I want to just make
Speaker 1: some records of going against him? What was that bar made?
Speaker 1: What made you go there? Depression? Uh? You know, anger,
Speaker 1: not ass niggers in your air, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: A peanut dollary lifting you up, making you seem like
Speaker 1: you're bigger than entitlement all that dumbass ship. That's real,
Speaker 1: out of pocket, that's real ship. Your growth is crazy.
Speaker 1: Your growth are so crazy, super card like you know, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I know you. I cherish you, I'll foxed
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah you know, but to see your growth, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And to see our growth,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because it was all boso,
Speaker 1: We was all young kids. Um yeah, yeah, good, it
Speaker 1: was all yeah, it was all Nory trying to get
Speaker 1: me need no, no, no, no, I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: you nice because you know why, you really really deserve
Speaker 1: these flowers. You really I've been trying to get you
Speaker 1: on this show forever because your story is really really important. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, you're part of the rocket fell. The legacy
Speaker 1: is really really important. And I'm gonna tell you something,
Speaker 1: one thing that I learned from a long time. If
Speaker 1: you don't tell your story, someone tell your story for you.
Speaker 1: So uh. And we come from the era where you know,
Speaker 1: we avoid cameras, we don't want to be on and
Speaker 1: you know that makes us old dudes, though I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest. We gotta learn how to adapt to this
Speaker 1: new generation which we're still us. We never want to
Speaker 1: jump out the character. We're never gonna you know, as
Speaker 1: long as you still you, we we we can dominate
Speaker 1: this field too. We can we can do I'm telling
Speaker 1: you because I can only be me, man, I can't
Speaker 1: be nobody else. They already them because there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of dudes. There's a bunch of dudes that don't give
Speaker 1: a funk about us. But there's too many people that
Speaker 1: give the funk about us. And let's not give a
Speaker 1: funk about people who don't give a funk about us,
Speaker 1: talking the ones that's sucking with us because they fucking
Speaker 1: want us. You know what I'm saying, Legence just sucking
Speaker 1: something dope right now. And to be a funking I'm
Speaker 1: something good, I'm not. I'm not gonna let hip hop
Speaker 1: say because you know we've been in here for this
Speaker 1: amount of years that we're washed or we're old or
Speaker 1: I can't allow that. I can't. I just can't do it.
Speaker 1: And this is the reason why we invented this show
Speaker 1: is because you know, this is a whole different life
Speaker 1: for us. You know what I'm saying, Like I love
Speaker 1: what Cameron is doing, what Pink Horsepower, Like the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: selling viagra. Let's just be clear, that's fucking dope, like
Speaker 1: you would think Carolin and something Viagara, Like come on, bro,
Speaker 1: like Norway's fucking media Like, how fucking no. So there's
Speaker 1: an afterlife, you know? Um, this is what was that
Speaker 1: Life after Death Biggie Names album. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying like this that isn't because you know, for us,
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, hip hop is death. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why hip hop is death. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean death in the sense of but I mean
Speaker 1: definite a sense of something goes away, your private life
Speaker 1: leaves like like me and you everyone else here, you know,
Speaker 1: besides the fen as well. You know, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of others. But when they leave work, they can take
Speaker 1: off day, they scrubs or whatever whatever, and they go
Speaker 1: back to the regular life. There's never you will never
Speaker 1: go back to regular life. Do you know that? Never?
Speaker 1: You will never go back to regular life. There's always Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's always gonna be somebody you're thinking, what, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to say is we never take
Speaker 1: our mask off. Our mask is on regardless. Yeah, you understand.
Speaker 1: So like when Jim Jones sometimes said, you know, being
Speaker 1: a rapper is the most dangerous job on the universe
Speaker 1: until a certain extent, He's right, because we don't know
Speaker 1: the enemy, but the enemy knows us. Now they see
Speaker 1: the face of things and I mean chased this dream. Yeah,
Speaker 1: got them, got them. So you know, I'm gonna wash
Speaker 1: you up up, start out. Let me tell you. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you one thing I did. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you what. Let me tell you the one thing I did.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Besides Queens, the most undivided
Speaker 1: place in America. You know what it is? What's not Philadelphia? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the only time in the past ten years
Speaker 1: that Philadelphia so solidarity. When it's when it's on, That's
Speaker 1: when I challenge you, brother, you'll lina tak me man.
Speaker 1: Everybody doing Philadelphia hit me represented from you all old
Speaker 1: rocket Feller niggas hit me represented. So you know what
Speaker 1: I'm telling he's taking on and we're super fast. You
Speaker 1: need but lit the camels were looking now the camera said,
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna You're not gonna take nothing from
Speaker 1: a man. You know this love, it's nothing guy's love. Love.
Speaker 1: If any of y'all out there, the super facts, no bullshit,
Speaker 1: if y'all believe nor it's gonna wash me in the
Speaker 1: first I'm not gonna wash you. I'm gonna win. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna wash You said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no different, it's gonna win. I'm not gonna wash wash you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was proper Ganda. You know what I mean listen
Speaker 1: for this is real life. You said, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get I'm trying to get I'm trying get the check.
Speaker 1: He didn't talk crazy, he didn't. No, I don't donna win.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win for sure. What you
Speaker 1: mean and mean what you say, stand on that standing
Speaker 1: on that you called me p M. Don't come out.
Speaker 1: I don't nobody don't know who this I don't and
Speaker 1: I'm saying, back night, why the fund is movie doing
Speaker 1: this ship? I know what stands but I'm right. But
Speaker 1: he's like, chill get here. I did say chill. I say,
Speaker 1: you're listen. Let me start it up and me do
Speaker 1: what I can do. Let me get bringing to people here.
Speaker 1: But it's too late though, because they got nigga. I
Speaker 1: got people and like I don't know, Nori got some junk,
Speaker 1: he got some joance. But we with with Dre say
Speaker 1: we're gonna see. Okay, I'm taking are all back. I
Speaker 1: know for fact out of hunted k large all cash
Speaker 1: right now, y'all gear me keep it a big we
Speaker 1: can go get it a right and scrow put it up.
Speaker 1: It's nothing super facts that's on the brin. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's really not a bet because the thing is no no,
Speaker 1: no thing about. There's there's no winner. There's no winner.
Speaker 1: They don't class a poser. No, that's not not between us.
Speaker 1: But to the mom when I grow rights versus at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like when you see look
Speaker 1: at Bobby Brownie and you actually will I'm just telling
Speaker 1: yourself and I'm in Listen, they're not giving up the
Speaker 1: real numbers. Bro, this is what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1: We say it's Spanish, eat that. What that means is
Speaker 1: listen to my brother, trust me, trust you, listen to winner.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but what I'm saying is the streets is
Speaker 1: not only talking about the botching there that shot slide through.
Speaker 1: They the Delpia. It's only for the Delpia that that
Speaker 1: one little sexy in America. W they got your back.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie y'all the better you're getting the
Speaker 1: Rock Nation invite this year exactly. Please read ship. Please
Speaker 1: come on, come on the other the other white man,
Speaker 1: come on, come away for my case. I don't know
Speaker 1: I got a case for you. Listen because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wash you up. So I got I'm talking about the movies.
Speaker 1: But let me just say something because this is what
Speaker 1: it's really about. I wouldn't challenge nobody that I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was a credible opponent. I don't want no
Speaker 1: suckers on my motherfucker. Thank you for taking yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I really yeah, I'm going down with trans and I'm
Speaker 1: attacked the backboards or ship. Yes, my brother, I really
Speaker 1: do love you. I really got love for you. Man
Speaker 1: with you, and you know when you listen, you're gonna
Speaker 1: finish this up. But and then we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: handle our business that night. We're gonna also celebrate that
Speaker 1: night because you deserve celebration, just like you celebrated tonight.
Speaker 1: We're gonna up. I got lost, I got all right, okay,
Speaker 1: but then stay property three. This is really okay, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this one crap. This is one question
Speaker 1: and because we're gonna we're gonna wrap it up in
Speaker 1: this with then ten fifteen minutes. But this is one
Speaker 1: question right now. There was one time I believe you
Speaker 1: just came home from jail. I think me. You and
Speaker 1: Dame got on the phone. We spoke about oh, stay
Speaker 1: property three, and then Dame hit us with the let's
Speaker 1: go to Japad China. You would not feeling that to
Speaker 1: filming Japan. Yeah, Like he was like, yo, let's just
Speaker 1: take it over there. That's call of crazy. No, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna wearing it out doog like state property. I
Speaker 1: didn't notice, Like even when all the movies, it's kids
Speaker 1: that know me as they don't even know my music.
Speaker 1: They know Stu from Paper Soldiers liked that Bennie Segar
Speaker 1: who being from the movie Stay. They know the movie,
Speaker 1: and I think one of them movie Like when I
Speaker 1: was coming out, we had we had Juice, we had
Speaker 1: boys in the hood. Then you know its generation. Come on,
Speaker 1: you know they got Belly, they got you know, state
Speaker 1: Property is one of them, all Property one. Let's just
Speaker 1: see I didn't hate too. I like State Property too,
Speaker 1: because we were saying, I just I think the director
Speaker 1: could have been better. I think it was more funny
Speaker 1: than Howard. Yeah, but that's how you know. You know why,
Speaker 1: you know why I appreciate it being more funny, It's
Speaker 1: because Belly is a great movie that's not funny, and
Speaker 1: the Hood ain't like that. The Hood got crackheads, the
Speaker 1: Hood got fucking frogs. You know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, so why the fund
Speaker 1: is they I didn't laughing Belly, not one time. So
Speaker 1: I can't tell you Belly is a bad movie. I
Speaker 1: can tell you Belly is not or reality because when
Speaker 1: I'm in the hood, I'm laughing more than you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like most of the time, like even
Speaker 1: if there's some smoke, like most people like lean norri alone,
Speaker 1: but I'm always laughing more than whatever. So that's the
Speaker 1: reason why I didn't appreciate If You and if You
Speaker 1: compare it to Stay Property one, which is a phenomenal movie.
Speaker 1: I think it's up there with Belly. But it was
Speaker 1: the more of the funniness that and that's the reason
Speaker 1: why I felt like it got more more theaters then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what I said, A boy funny like I think
Speaker 1: I think I think Dane watch too much. What's that ship?
Speaker 1: Just lockstock and smoking barrel like off the overseas movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's what I didn't like about, like the funny ship,
Speaker 1: like when we reacted, but I was walking like the
Speaker 1: directing part, like he was doing too much. The last
Speaker 1: time people saw us together, you shot at me. It's
Speaker 1: very yeah, technically the last time you think. That's why
Speaker 1: when you posted to when we hung up on you,
Speaker 1: I said, he's not thinking you're supposed to post that
Speaker 1: you're supposed to post when he was shooting at me.
Speaker 1: Yeahs that next week, we got fres that next week.
Speaker 1: We used to give you the classic one, though, I
Speaker 1: gotta take him out in Philadelphia Freeway in the building.
Speaker 1: It's a free rate. We was trying to get your
Speaker 1: roses too, man, Yes, yes, yes, hold one, it's still
Speaker 1: on for you. This is like the way, this is
Speaker 1: like the way in hold on, hold on Philadelphia. Where
Speaker 1: is the tiger bomb? But we got we got Japanese whiskey.
Speaker 1: Come on, let's do it. Come on you No, you
Speaker 1: want them when you asked for it, bro, come on
Speaker 1: you on. I wanted to see maybe. Okay, they can't
Speaker 1: be listen Nori. Man, you know when when when when
Speaker 1: I bought crap. I'm like, yo, you gotta funk with right,
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, your rea crap. It's the only
Speaker 1: two hash Spanish. They Nicka Riquez that really don't know Spanish,
Speaker 1: these little shot yo. Anyway, it's all love. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the battle later. Right now, it's about giving
Speaker 1: motherfucking beatings his fucking flowers. That's what this show was. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm listen. Don't worry. I got jokes too. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: save me for the new You know what, I said,
Speaker 1: but um, but listen, man, I'm giving both of y'all,
Speaker 1: you'all flowers. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You took
Speaker 1: the shot. Damn. He was right over there. Come on,
Speaker 1: hold on, So look this is your last shot. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. Yea, it is. Damn the scream. But
Speaker 1: we wait, we're getting drunk. We're getting Come on that half,
Speaker 1: just take half. I don't take a shot with you
Speaker 1: since Gator, just tack. That's what's on the long No no,
Speaker 1: I that night another one. Hold on, yo, pretty way.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you your brosers. Yo, god, damnit, man,
Speaker 1: thank you for checking in. Man, we got this on
Speaker 1: camera right boom. Yeah, and we're gonna have you on
Speaker 1: here too. Hold on, okay, so I only wanta keep
Speaker 1: them on alright, cool, let me tea freezing You know
Speaker 1: you're too bro see you in a minute. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying right now one of my favorite You're joint. I'm
Speaker 1: still giving your flowers, taking wear your flowers to that night.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm taking back. Okay, let me flowers too,
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna remember okay, but we remember them days
Speaker 1: The Tooth album feature, Yeah, what was in your mind.
Speaker 1: What was you thinking about side? Remember them days? Ship,
Speaker 1: Remember them Days? It was good. It was like it
Speaker 1: was weird because that was like one of the last
Speaker 1: records I recorded on the Truth album. Wow, it was
Speaker 1: story about that rocket God damn Yo. I really was
Speaker 1: out of get a little bit. Yeah, because all right,
Speaker 1: I turned in the album. So we gotta meet with
Speaker 1: def Jan Kesle. Okay. I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: still stay this ship's okay. So we're in the meeting.
Speaker 1: I turned in my album everybody there ja. I think
Speaker 1: my man Pocle went there with me. Poco, you shot
Speaker 1: out the Poco Yeah, my eight one from day one.
Speaker 1: He yo, I got a lot of stories. Poco. He's
Speaker 1: like Mr Lee. Mr Lee is a Dominican with a
Speaker 1: Chinese name, a black guy. Little Pocles, a black guy.
Speaker 1: It's the same ship. Were in the meeting, Uh, So
Speaker 1: we turned in the album and playing the album liar
Speaker 1: your snaps and see he starts twee you can admit it,
Speaker 1: like all right, like I want to push like I didn't.
Speaker 1: It's weird because I didn't want I didn't want the
Speaker 1: Truth to be my first single. I wanted with your
Speaker 1: Life like or Ride for my Niggas to be the second,
Speaker 1: and it was like, nah, you need to reading on record.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but that ain't me, Like I want what's
Speaker 1: your life like? Like that's the first let that come out. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's me. Okay, that's me on the truth. I
Speaker 1: want to with your life like. It was even a
Speaker 1: to me between that or a record that I did
Speaker 1: call right for my niggas. So, uh, we did the truth.
Speaker 1: They with Kanye my man did that bet easy. So
Speaker 1: we returned the album in but Lire said, I I
Speaker 1: didn't have no ready on records, so he started tweaking out.
Speaker 1: He was like, I got nothing that I could play
Speaker 1: on alreadio, So I don't know no better. I'm like,
Speaker 1: man funck the radio this he's gonna love this ship. Man,
Speaker 1: what's your life like? Or right, that's the one. So
Speaker 1: I'm going for eve a guy, what's your life like?
Speaker 1: A rod for my niggers. So Leo starts snapping in
Speaker 1: the joint, so he said, uh so damn. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't understand this. That in the third So they're
Speaker 1: pushing for the truth. This is the one. This is
Speaker 1: the one. So I'm like, all right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm thinking that's just how I go. Whatever
Speaker 1: they pick, that's what I gotta roll with. So lire
Speaker 1: and like, he don't got nothing that I could play
Speaker 1: on the radio. I need to radio record. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't you know from hearing the language radio driven up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't even know about none of that ship.
Speaker 1: So I don't know the language and none of that.
Speaker 1: All I know is that man funk that crossover ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm yeah, momoking, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: coming from the hood. I'm like, and I'm not crossing over.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that ship. And he was like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not. So Leod was like, you listen, I don't
Speaker 1: want you to cross I'm not asking you to go hammer.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Ship. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if you could spell hammer. Yeah. Leo's a hardscoy, So
Speaker 1: I don't know who Leo is at the time. You
Speaker 1: don't know. So when he said that, I looked at
Speaker 1: my man Poco. I'm like, you know, we're about to roll.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you gonna go start the car. Oh, PoCA
Speaker 1: ain't about the plugger, huh. So when he said I'm not, Yo,
Speaker 1: what you mean. I don't know who lee or is.
Speaker 1: I don't even know who the why are we even
Speaker 1: talking to him? So it's like, I'm not asking you
Speaker 1: to be Hammer. Should I don't even know if you
Speaker 1: could fuck the spell hammer? He's about mc hammer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not asking me talk to you like,
Speaker 1: let you know, I don't even know. He said, I'm
Speaker 1: not asking you to be Hammer. I'm not asking He
Speaker 1: was like, Ship, I don't even know if you could
Speaker 1: spouse him. I said, you're gonna start the car, so
Speaker 1: I was were leaving up. I'm like, yo, what the
Speaker 1: fun are you talking? Soon? Like, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it's not Leo pulled out. Oh yeah for Thedelphia. Niggas
Speaker 1: is horrible days. I'm just just going you pulled out
Speaker 1: on Leo cold. Yeah, No, they're super fast. You talk
Speaker 1: to me. No, no, continued, It's just the story. This
Speaker 1: is the man literally trying to save it. Left and
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was talking a little bit crazy.
Speaker 1: That's why Jay was like, nah, I ain't never sped.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be a sponsible. I don't just
Speaker 1: say okay, it's my last question, Like I'm not my
Speaker 1: damn like, no, I see what you do. You need
Speaker 1: to buy life right now with you because I'm thinking
Speaker 1: like you disrespected me, Like I'm like chart, like I'm
Speaker 1: like you, I just didn't know nobot, Like come on, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm a I think it's him out take me the
Speaker 1: rock and fo I'm trying to go to your dog fight, right. Uh,
Speaker 1: I ain't never no better, I ain't know one of
Speaker 1: the craziest. This is the craziest, right, And then if
Speaker 1: we're gonna ended it with this, I apologize Lee or
Speaker 1: I was young. It's not the first time we all
Speaker 1: got pulled out on them, to be honest. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: about that life all right? But um Uma has it right,
Speaker 1: jay Ta Dave Pepper, spray all Kelly, this is what happened.
Speaker 1: This is this is selectively right. I don't know if
Speaker 1: just the truth. I don't know, if we don't know,
Speaker 1: if that you but then all of a sudden, being's
Speaker 1: got a single Kelly, Yeah, what what's what's that? Like?
Speaker 1: Was people looking into the office and Manuel well because
Speaker 1: I know she chief helped produced the video, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that situation, um I was rocking with some producers
Speaker 1: for Philly super super super producers. I don't know why
Speaker 1: they don't get the credit that day or out there,
Speaker 1: Dre the dial um got a big, draming dialog. This
Speaker 1: is this is the people that gave y'all that produced
Speaker 1: Confessions album Butterflies. Michael Jackson, Uh, Confessions, Yeah I should, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I should. Yeah, like super producing. So I'm locked up
Speaker 1: at the time before you know, are like, I'm big.
Speaker 1: R Kelly fame, you know what I mean. Kelly was
Speaker 1: Home team before he was locked up. Yeah, they was
Speaker 1: going on. He was home. I'm this bestable girl. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that was the tour that I had to sit in
Speaker 1: the jail like funk I was don't have money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I missed it. I missed it. So at me, I'm
Speaker 1: not thinking, you know, I got people like, yo, you
Speaker 1: gotta get a record, you need a record that So
Speaker 1: I'm away. I don't know about what's going on with
Speaker 1: them on the road, with R. Kelly and and all
Speaker 1: this ship. I'm locked up. I'm not thinking about you
Speaker 1: know what i mean, I'm five seving six one three
Speaker 1: zero six six, you know what i mean. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna joy. So whatever they had going on. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know why. There's no like Instagram
Speaker 1: back there, there's no gram is no none of that.
Speaker 1: So all I know I would you know, I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do a record with R. Kelly. I
Speaker 1: didn't insult like he sought. You know, I had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that so bad. We recorded the record
Speaker 1: so in my perfect world, and the people wasn't around, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's big. You gotta record with R. You flew to
Speaker 1: Chicago to the front video. Yeah, the role, so you
Speaker 1: got a Rockefeller didn't want to pay for the record.
Speaker 1: This trade that I remember going back and forth on
Speaker 1: the phone with Jay like, but it didn't hit me there.
Speaker 1: They had the bullsh going on. He got a case
Speaker 1: on him until afterwards, until afterwards when he dropped the album,
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh ship, I fucked up? Because
Speaker 1: JA was like, uh, what he's saying? Man? In one
Speaker 1: of the drinks, she said, huh he said. The singer
Speaker 1: Rob called the police on me, and y'all went out
Speaker 1: and cop to see them. I didn't catch that, catch that.
Speaker 1: I catch everything. What record is this, sir? Uh? One
Speaker 1: of them? Uh? What the funda? You got me? Threats,
Speaker 1: but you don't do you talk about you because you
Speaker 1: ain't copy see did you or no? But I did
Speaker 1: a record with him, but you didn't. Do you talk
Speaker 1: about you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, like just not in not
Speaker 1: in a mollest way, but like Jay smooth like that,
Speaker 1: like you know, yo, dope ship. Um took me years
Speaker 1: to understand that. That's why I said, you know, I
Speaker 1: smile laughed by my damn my funk because I hold
Speaker 1: myself accountable just for what I um my ship. But still,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I don't, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't regret anything. I don't take nothing back, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm a man. I stand on what
Speaker 1: I stand on. I still got principles and ship that
Speaker 1: I lived by. And that's just how it's come up.
Speaker 1: Jade so slipt, he's so smooth with it like and
Speaker 1: for exactly. That's why I say he was talking to
Speaker 1: me when it's like he said a line on the record, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: And I was hot for a couple of years, like
Speaker 1: he said, Uh, one of the blue prints and beings.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to change you. Just give you some
Speaker 1: game to make the transition from the streets to the
Speaker 1: fame at that time, I was I got that in
Speaker 1: my notes. That was awesome about correct question. Okay, something
Speaker 1: you're going with it is now you're like NASA John
Speaker 1: mr me. Yeah. Like after when he when he said that, okay,
Speaker 1: don't tell me he was offended. I was totally offended.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why because we didn't have that conversation.
Speaker 1: M hold on, let me let me fit. We didn't
Speaker 1: have a conversation. So when I heard a record and
Speaker 1: I'm hearing like bleak, you went head away and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: all right. Then it comes to me. It's like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm rotting for the rocking. I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to change. You just gave you some game
Speaker 1: to make the transition from the streets to the fan.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you try to give me the game.
Speaker 1: Like we sitting and I'm I'm sick about that ship.
Speaker 1: But it took a minute for me to realize with
Speaker 1: the game on that record, that was game right there,
Speaker 1: Like yo, that was it because it wasn't like he
Speaker 1: didn't say that it was the same because Leo could
Speaker 1: have been coming to you on the strip of Jack Listen,
Speaker 1: like what I'm saying is that that line beings. I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to change you. Just give you some game
Speaker 1: and make the transition from from from the outside looking.
Speaker 1: Then when people hear that, they you get the perception
Speaker 1: that Jay is telling me, Yo, you gotta do this.
Speaker 1: You gotta chill, you gotta do this. Your only problem
Speaker 1: you never had that. I had the secret commensa that
Speaker 1: you never had the conversation that you might think we
Speaker 1: had because you hear that, but you the same. That
Speaker 1: was the conversation, you know that one the same thing.
Speaker 1: So we had him on here what we said as
Speaker 1: long as man he blee was like, yo, man, I
Speaker 1: don't like that. Yeah, so wild. That was that. That
Speaker 1: was the game, the burn out, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm in my feelings like I'm do you mean you
Speaker 1: ain't like? That was the game. And that's why he
Speaker 1: said beans to tell you if he wasn't in his feelings. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't, don't. I don't know, y'all. Rocket Front of Stories.
Speaker 1: It's raking because it's real ship. It's real. It's real ship.
Speaker 1: Ain't like little bullshit. It's real Like to me, no,
Speaker 1: it is not like like I wear that ship. Like
Speaker 1: you know, when you google you, I learned this from
Speaker 1: pit Bull. You're more famous than Banbi sues the other
Speaker 1: Babi sees the other basis gangster the gangster when the gangster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you google Beanie Segul, you come up first. I
Speaker 1: am the only Bani sees. But that was the single
Speaker 1: part that was supposed to come off. That's and the
Speaker 1: fact is that this is thinking about your conversemens, don't
Speaker 1: forget about it. Come on, we're more accomplished. I feel
Speaker 1: like you want another shot just to being honest, I'm
Speaker 1: like a tiny man. You don't want to dream a
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit, a little bit to listen man,
Speaker 1: huh yeah, I mean I just want I just want
Speaker 1: you to have fun. But but beings, you know, all
Speaker 1: jokes aside um, one of the people out of mire.
Speaker 1: You want the people where you want the people that
Speaker 1: always came around. We've always been genuine. It's probably just
Speaker 1: you DMX and Scarface's man and um, you know immediately
Speaker 1: kind of thought of you when the DMX ship happened. Indirectly,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because of the real camaraderie
Speaker 1: that we had between the four of us. And you
Speaker 1: know that's why I said, you know, come outside to
Speaker 1: take the truth. And I said, I know I said
Speaker 1: it earlier, but it's like, you know, right now is
Speaker 1: the time for us, man, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for all of us. You know, um, you know there
Speaker 1: was a time but we didn't respect our older brothers.
Speaker 1: And I was a part of that. You know, the
Speaker 1: people that came before us, I they didn't give me love.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I didn't give a about giving
Speaker 1: them love. This is the older stakes spence about hip hop,
Speaker 1: and right now I'm seeing it changed. I'm seeing people
Speaker 1: actually want to listen to us, want to just you know,
Speaker 1: get game from the O G s. And you know,
Speaker 1: this show was one of the uh examples of that
Speaker 1: where people actually like, you know, I'll meet a new
Speaker 1: young boy every day, like, man, I know you're gonna
Speaker 1: let me on the on the show, but I mean
Speaker 1: I watched this, this is this is not so as
Speaker 1: a friend, as a brother. I don't know how long.
Speaker 1: This is a beautiful thing that we guys gonna last.
Speaker 1: But it would not have been complete without having on
Speaker 1: on here because his his his what's what was so
Speaker 1: fucked up? About our people. For five years, I've been
Speaker 1: digging you up, saying how much I wanted you on
Speaker 1: the show, so how much? And the one time I
Speaker 1: said something that was different about this show, you're here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Just thinking about it and listen, this is
Speaker 1: documented for five six years, every time I had the
Speaker 1: person for Philly, Yo, your beaches, when you at your
Speaker 1: pull up, pull up, saying nothing more positive ship right,
Speaker 1: Just think this is real talk. Look, anybody whoever watched
Speaker 1: Drink Champs, whoever watched the Philly episode of Drink Champs,
Speaker 1: can I actually pull this up? This is real talk.
Speaker 1: And the one time I just was, you know, playing
Speaker 1: to see if I could actually get and then this
Speaker 1: is all this. But guess what, they didn't know The
Speaker 1: joke was on them. They didn't know that I was
Speaker 1: calling you and saying, this is exactly what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna because we're still gonna battle yea yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're still gonna. But to think about it is I
Speaker 1: also want to recognize to ourselves how fucked up sometimes
Speaker 1: our way of thinking is. Yeah, is that I can
Speaker 1: say for five years, for X years, your bees, yo,
Speaker 1: go come to the show, bro, we need you on
Speaker 1: the show, so suss. But the one time I say
Speaker 1: anything negative, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, bass,
Speaker 1: we don't get to you later. You got a whole segment. Brother,
Speaker 1: you're gonna relaxt and you know why. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something and I would be honest. The room
Speaker 1: about Philly is really don't stick together. The room about
Speaker 1: Philly is y'all got beef with everybody. And if I
Speaker 1: was the one time for two thousand and twenty one
Speaker 1: that Philly stood in carragerie, I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that word means, but I know of me standing together,
Speaker 1: and I know I ain't pronounced it right, but just
Speaker 1: roll with me. If that's the one time I feel
Speaker 1: I fully felt great. I fully felt great. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there at a fitter and all the young boys from
Speaker 1: Philly was like, yo, man, no order to bumper, and
Speaker 1: it was all Philly, and I wanted to say the
Speaker 1: one time I got to see y'all standing together was
Speaker 1: what's what's close to me? And I don't give a
Speaker 1: fun You're all wrong, but I'm just playing. I was
Speaker 1: playing because I'm just playing on some real ship. I really,
Speaker 1: I really love the fact that everyone from old rocket
Speaker 1: Feller to middle rocket Feller to new rocket Feller came
Speaker 1: out from just plade to all these people, and and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, that moment wasn't about me
Speaker 1: at all. That moment was about giving you your flowers.
Speaker 1: This is what we this is what we do. I
Speaker 1: know it was a little like bugged out the way
Speaker 1: it happened, But let me just tell you something. People, Now,
Speaker 1: that's cool, that's cool because you know why, you know why.
Speaker 1: That's our people. People wouldn't recognize me from picking you
Speaker 1: up for five years, for six years, and I promise you,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. I can't even I can't even
Speaker 1: break eye contact. That's documented, well documented. Beach. Come up here, Beach.
Speaker 1: I'm working with you, Beach. I want to give my
Speaker 1: platform to you, to you. No one paid attention for
Speaker 1: what I said, tell bees to come outside. Everybody said
Speaker 1: bees come outside. So guess what if that's the way
Speaker 1: I hadn't do it, And that's the way I gotta
Speaker 1: get to us to make some motherfucking money. Fucking come
Speaker 1: outside and guess what, guess what comes side. I gotta
Speaker 1: stop saying the word nigga I don't like that. I
Speaker 1: don't don't want to say the word nigga. But guess what,
Speaker 1: you came outside and we're having fun. So this episode
Speaker 1: is about you, and I'm not saying nothing else into
Speaker 1: that night on the party, and I feel like you
Speaker 1: would come out with like Eddie Murphy went, bread leather arm,
Speaker 1: are you going? Are you coming up with red leather arm?
Speaker 1: Made some noise for Noiri, Even putting in South in
Speaker 1: the funt of your gun like that takes some like
Speaker 1: you could have just camera. Yeah, you could have pulled
Speaker 1: me to camera first. That might have been your best
Speaker 1: back listen to tell the truth. They actually was pushing
Speaker 1: me towards camera, and that's why I went, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's about to get crazy. Let's get it.
Speaker 1: Let's get you. It's about to get crazy. Let me
Speaker 1: just ask you. Let me just ask you. But if
Speaker 1: you was to take jay z records out, your can
Speaker 1: stop excuses. Don't do that. You can have it. You
Speaker 1: can have it, you can have it, you can have
Speaker 1: you can have take records with you. But if you
Speaker 1: think it was kidding me what I'm saying, what we do,
Speaker 1: it's no, that's not That's all that's still that's what
Speaker 1: we do. Is not a jay Z record. First, that's
Speaker 1: a Freeway record. That's not a jay Z Records. The
Speaker 1: freewere Yeah, that was that. If it's just your records
Speaker 1: doing that. See what you're doing right now, what you're doing,
Speaker 1: because I want you to. You're coming to my gym
Speaker 1: and you're trying to watch this farm for the fight.
Speaker 1: We ain't doing that. But I'll be honest, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I wouldn't wreck it that I
Speaker 1: got went easy. Okay? Is this a bad? Is that
Speaker 1: that same? Honey? Honey dos okay? Cash money? I'll promise you.
Speaker 1: No jay Z Records agreeing with you right now? She
Speaker 1: looks j Records, house comes records out jay Records, No
Speaker 1: Jakes recor need to stop this man, No jay Records.
Speaker 1: Let's let's honey, I made it, said jay Z was
Speaker 1: early on for ReBs. Already know I made for Round.
Speaker 1: I made for Round. So it's difference. So you gotta
Speaker 1: saying you gotta way too much time on your chance
Speaker 1: and you swicide you gotta keep you over there right now.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry you you you're talking about production. No, no,
Speaker 1: no Jay z. No, but you keep saying for round. No, No,
Speaker 1: He's just say for a round. He said for my
Speaker 1: man arrested development ship. You might sink a ship wrong.
Speaker 1: Your means fun that I don't give a fun. But listen,
Speaker 1: you funked up with saying you're gonna take your mom
Speaker 1: jay Z's records. I know I said I could know,
Speaker 1: you said you will? Could you? Will you related the
Speaker 1: way we wanted to do it. Let me ask you this, Yes,
Speaker 1: if I don't use no records with jay Z, would
Speaker 1: you use no Wreckers produced by Pharrell? No? Because that's
Speaker 1: different because you know why. Let me tell you why.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. Because your records will be
Speaker 1: advantage to you because of the person who he was
Speaker 1: price that had. I've not been who Pharrell might not
Speaker 1: be who he was. So what I'm saying isn't do
Speaker 1: can't say that duction is different. That's like me saying,
Speaker 1: don't use no Gurug or no jay You know what
Speaker 1: ese like me saying. That's like me saying I can't
Speaker 1: use no Kanye westing? Do you not know your first place?
Speaker 1: That's what we're saying it for one For me, Kanye West,
Speaker 1: wait will be there. I wish, Yeah, I never use Kanye.
Speaker 1: Use Kanye espuch as you want, you can have it.
Speaker 1: You just don't want you to use Jake for you.
Speaker 1: I called for you, make sure you were ye zs
Speaker 1: and everything. That night I pass you use Kande, No
Speaker 1: jay Z side, no your side. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I would play golf, my brother. I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: holy hood nigg I don't know. I don't have no handicap.
Speaker 1: But how can you say that no where? I suggested?
Speaker 1: He he agreed. I said, y'all agree, I don't agree.
Speaker 1: You didn't agree. You take out a hundred thousand No
Speaker 1: jay Z records. I'll tell you we got it on film.
Speaker 1: All your feeling Niggers were sweating. It was like niggers,
Speaker 1: wrong person of no j Z right and take all
Speaker 1: that ship away, take on albums like little free to
Speaker 1: take my albums away. I don't have an album there.
Speaker 1: I don't have twenty albums worth a street saying this,
Speaker 1: my man, I'm gonna be honest. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what my mix tapes. Ship is two years mix tape,
Speaker 1: His mix tape is run over, Yo. This is the
Speaker 1: this is the best we can ship can we use mixtape?
Speaker 1: Ship all your records? Let me use all your records.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying you took that side back. That's a
Speaker 1: side back me and my man right where you going?
Speaker 1: Band from TV? Better be your first uh song than
Speaker 1: because if I do thousand some bars, you can't even
Speaker 1: do that. What's a band from your song? A thousand bars? Ye? Bet? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nobody really remembers that. I'm just being honest. Are you
Speaker 1: kicking me in? Only you that signed you? That's it.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it was a classic beat. It was
Speaker 1: a classic. It's what I came to drink. It was
Speaker 1: a classic song. We got signed over it. God bless you.
Speaker 1: But that was it. That's where it stopped. You didn't
Speaker 1: get all right. Listens, stand up Bobby Smurder to joint
Speaker 1: when you hear Bobby fresh my turn on Bobby Smurder.
Speaker 1: You never heard Bobby Smurder without fresh My Tanner Again,
Speaker 1: you didn't do that the bad from TV. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? No? I'm not. I'm serious. But
Speaker 1: you did good. You got over you know what? You
Speaker 1: know what I got signed on for? What's the what's
Speaker 1: the bust of Rhymes? Record? Put your hands with my eyes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay that beat. Y'all went crazy in the offers over that.
Speaker 1: That what got me signed. That's nice. I just dragged
Speaker 1: the ship out of that thousand believe, I believe, and
Speaker 1: I got the footage of that day. What I mean,
Speaker 1: we will leave you run a thousand bars who love
Speaker 1: one more trunk include going crazy called jack. I got
Speaker 1: that footage. We're gonna cause they get that footage. We
Speaker 1: got you brother, get that footage. But let's let's let's
Speaker 1: stick to the original subject. I love that. I love
Speaker 1: that originally subject it's called Swiss. I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: already been called make it happen. It's already been even
Speaker 1: made happen. Don't worry about it. You're good. I'm with you, susting, trusting.
Speaker 1: Is I flying out of her mind? No? No, I
Speaker 1: want it just as much as in fact, I welcomed this,
Speaker 1: So trust me with it. And it ain't even you know,
Speaker 1: it's not your neither. I was two years without beefing
Speaker 1: with nobody. So that's the reason why I wanted to
Speaker 1: like to have a little bit of beat. Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, peoples, the old tep and hanging out with
Speaker 1: else for two years something, so we understand why you
Speaker 1: got your platforms about nine euse I counted them nine
Speaker 1: posted I only did once and now it's your turn.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something being let me get
Speaker 1: back to that, and this is a real talk. I
Speaker 1: really funk with you. I really got love for you.
Speaker 1: I'd love to do this battle, I really do. But
Speaker 1: besides that, uh, let's get back to drink Champs. I
Speaker 1: really I don't want to battle somebody that's a suck.
Speaker 1: I want to battle somebody that's real. You don't want
Speaker 1: to battle someone because if your opponent is a sucker,
Speaker 1: then it makes you a sucker out there. That's fact.
Speaker 1: Because I don't want did I read this? I just
Speaker 1: said you can't judge the weight of a man by
Speaker 1: who was friends is, but by who's in this, who
Speaker 1: go up against. We're not enemies. No, we're not in this.
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna be in it. Yeah, I wanted
Speaker 1: to do. I want to I want to do everything.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do that today. Yeah for the blows. For
Speaker 1: the blows, but stick you back to the hat in
Speaker 1: the hand. Drink Champs about giving your flowers and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. You wanted the dues that deserve flowers.
Speaker 1: You wanted the dudes that it really a pioneer the game.
Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I called you out like
Speaker 1: that because I wanted I wanted the people to buy
Speaker 1: into it, and they did. And we're gonna do this
Speaker 1: ship like a mom They're looking for me and we're
Speaker 1: looking for them. They're gonna come outside. We're gonna trap
Speaker 1: like a month that movie that's from that's from the
Speaker 1: bench Man. My GAP's like, they're looking for me and
Speaker 1: I'm looking for them, and they tell me to come
Speaker 1: outside and we gonna trap like a motherfucker. So that's
Speaker 1: what's happening. Uh, I were looking for you, you're looking
Speaker 1: for me. Let's get it, and we're gonna go outside
Speaker 1: and we're gonna trap like a motherfucker again. But it's
Speaker 1: all on the spirit of hip hop because I just
Speaker 1: want you to know I really, really really got love
Speaker 1: for you, and you really need something for me that
Speaker 1: you don't really know is you kind of made me
Speaker 1: an actor. I did not want to do Pay the Fall.
Speaker 1: I did not want to do Stay Property too. I
Speaker 1: did not want to do Paper Soldiers. But when I
Speaker 1: got presented to do stay property too. When Pete Crack
Speaker 1: got locked up. You could have easily said, funck Norri,
Speaker 1: he's not team, he's a outside he's or whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: But you did, you know you you told me to
Speaker 1: come outside that time. So this is my turn to
Speaker 1: telling you to come outside. But you really did, because
Speaker 1: you could have said, funck Norri hire a regular Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: That's black Lane Pedro. That was the role was. And
Speaker 1: I read it and I got with the director or
Speaker 1: the writer and I said, the only problem is this.
Speaker 1: You gotta be about me like and then they came
Speaker 1: and they read. But you you could have hated. You
Speaker 1: could have said fuck him. You could have said, we
Speaker 1: ain't dealing with that, but you did so in that sense,
Speaker 1: I feel like I owe you. So that's why we're
Speaker 1: out here and we're gonna we're gonna still rumbling the
Speaker 1: jump now. But I tell you it's a respectful way.
Speaker 1: I love you with you, bro with you. That's what's
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. Will Will Will reward fish for swimming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that I'm going to get
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