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Speaker 1: June fifth, of the over Lord twenty twenty two. Are

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Speaker 1: going to be an upsetting show tonight, but for the

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Speaker 1: very happiest of reasons. I'll explain it just a second.

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Speaker 1: We are jam Fact High, a top a festive downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks coming into town for a lot

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Speaker 1: of different concerts this week. We're actually going to do

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Speaker 1: a change of schedule that I'll tell you about more

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Speaker 1: at the end of the show. Because of that, I

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Speaker 1: got upset alerts for you. I want you to pull

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Speaker 1: out that red sharpie and we're going to start five

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Speaker 1: of them tonight that you might as well go ahead

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Speaker 1: and get money down on. We have thought it through.

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Speaker 1: We have deliberated internally here as a staff, me and

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Speaker 1: the two ghosts in the other room over there, and

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Speaker 1: we got five of them for you. Also. Brian Kelly,

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Speaker 1: as you know, is the head coach at LSU. Marcus Freeman,

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Speaker 1: therefore is the head coach at Notre Dame. Did everyone

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Speaker 1: win here? Some people have been saying some things as

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Speaker 1: of late and voting that guy at LSU. We will

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Speaker 1: discuss that tonight, Sam Pittman in Arkansas. They got the

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Speaker 1: whole contract thing figured out. I hope a lot of

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Speaker 1: you are paying attention. And by you, I don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: mean the listeners. I mean athletic directors, I mean boosters.

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Speaker 1: I mean anyone who wants some sound financial advice. You

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Speaker 1: need to look no further than Fayettele, Arkansas. Bold Predictions

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Speaker 1: enter chapter fourteen this evening. And also, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about a dilemma that has arisen in State College, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Another one of those whiteout dilemmas had one last year.

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Speaker 1: I weighed in on it, and as the only person

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Speaker 1: in sports media that wears a dedicated white T shirt

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Speaker 1: every time he's on air, I'm kind of sort of

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Speaker 1: the authority on this. I'm going to tell you what

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Speaker 1: I mean tonight. Copperas Cove, Texas is tuned in Loretta, Tennessee, Dearborn, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: and Columbus Georgia. Yeah, just flat out Columbus Georgia checking

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Speaker 1: out on the show. A lot of you are listening

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Speaker 1: and watching from a lot of different places, but can

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Speaker 1: any of you match read As we dive into show tonight,

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Speaker 1: listen if you're on podcast. Our buddy Reid said, JP,

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Speaker 1: just an fyi. Over the last six weeks, I've watched

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Speaker 1: the show from Ireland, Scotland, England, Jordan, Honduras and Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the country or the state.

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Speaker 1: Either way, it's impressive. Is that a record? He asks,

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Speaker 1: We can confirm yes it is. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: why not we let read throw in his own bold prediction?

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Speaker 1: He said, my bold prediction is ninety plus percent of

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Speaker 1: the on air bold predictions would not actually put significant

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Speaker 1: throwing down the gauntlet to all of you. Coming up

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Speaker 1: a little bit later, I'd say about thirty minutes from now,

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Speaker 1: we will have bold predictions tonight. Let's enter into tonight's show.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it nice? Got a lot of garbage going on

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Speaker 1: in the world right now, Just leave it all behind

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Speaker 1: for about an hour. Let's just talk about college football here.

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Speaker 1: We're looking at the schedules right now college football less

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Speaker 1: than a hundred days way, even the week zero games

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Speaker 1: next couple of months. But right now, what I wanted

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Speaker 1: We call them red Sharpy specials, the Upset alerts, the

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Speaker 1: games that we're looking at right now, and we got

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Actually, the Backyard Brawl is back West Virginia

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Speaker 1: Week six. This one's happening in Las Vegas. A lot

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Speaker 1: I've gotten two questions and they've been constantly coming at me,

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Speaker 1: so I figured we'd answer both of them to night.

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Speaker 1: One of those questions is have you noticed how well

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is recruiting under Marcus Freeman? More on that

432
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Speaker 1: than just a second. But the other question is did

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Speaker 1: you hear what Brian Kelly said the other day? So

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Speaker 1: the first thing I want to do is I want

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Speaker 1: to tell you what Brian Kelly said the other day.

436
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Speaker 1: He was on the Paul fine Bomb Show. Well, I

437
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Speaker 1: think while they were down in Destin at the Spring meetings,

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Speaker 1: and Brian Kelly was talking about the way things went

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Speaker 1: down at Notre Dame. And Brian Kelly, just like when

440
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Speaker 1: we had him on our show last year, has shown

441
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Speaker 1: you he'll give you some brutally honest answers. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you ask him the right questions, he's not going

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Speaker 1: to beat around the bush. He'll he'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: he thinks. So if we have that graphic, because I

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Speaker 1: forgot to pull it up on my computer. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly said about leaving Notre Dame. Quote, I just

447
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Speaker 1: think we're at a different place. The administration felt they

448
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Speaker 1: were in a position where they had done what they

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Speaker 1: needed to do. I felt there was more that needed

450
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Speaker 1: to be done. Not the first time or the last

451
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Speaker 1: time someone's felt that way, He continues, I was fine

452
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Speaker 1: with that decision. They'll continue to move their program forward.

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Speaker 1: My clock was at a different place. What do you

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Speaker 1: do well, he went to LSU. Brian Kelly continues, this

455
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Speaker 1: happens everywhere in life. This was not antagonistic. There was

456
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Speaker 1: no bitterness. But it's just my clock and in terms

457
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Speaker 1: of what I needed to see happen was at a

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Speaker 1: different time. But they'll get to those things. Talking about

459
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. There this opportunity opened up at the same

460
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Speaker 1: time at LSU. It's just time and place, and this

461
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Speaker 1: opportunity is one I just felt like I needed to take. Now,

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Speaker 1: you notice Brian Kelly there, he said, this was not antagonistic,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of fighting, no bitterness. Well, he's

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Speaker 1: partly right. I don't doubt that he left and he

465
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Speaker 1: didn't feel all that bitter. He got an opportunity he wanted.

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Speaker 1: But there was some bitterness amongst the fan base, as

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Speaker 1: is to be expected when your guy leaves. You, have

468
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Speaker 1: you noticed that that bitterness has kind of subsided really quickly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been paying attention now. Our

470
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: crew is always dialed in because we don't do the

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Speaker 1: off season around here, so you guys have probably noticed. Boy,

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Speaker 1: there was a fair amount of bitterness there. The bitterness

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Speaker 1: per capa ratio or capita ratio amongst Notre Dame fans.

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Speaker 1: It sure has precipitously dropped. What happened. You want to

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Speaker 1: know what happened. Notre Dame's got the number one recruiting

476
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Speaker 1: class in the country right now, That's what happened. And

477
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Speaker 1: so they found out really quickly a lot of their

478
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Speaker 1: suspicions about their new guy, Marcus Freeman, they've been validated.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take this point in the show to

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Speaker 1: hit the pause button, and I'm gonna say, let me

481
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Speaker 1: drop the pin for effect. Let me straighten my microphone here,

482
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Speaker 1: just because it looks bad. I do not care if

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame finishes with the number one class in the country.

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Speaker 1: The fact is they're going to have a good class.

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Speaker 1: So when I tell you that they have the number

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Speaker 1: one class in the country right now, that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Right now, it is June fifth, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: They have the number one class in the country. They

489
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Speaker 1: could finish fourth, they could finish eighth, whatever. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a really good class that we know. Now. How

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Speaker 1: good is this class? Well, at the moment, they have

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Speaker 1: ten verbal commitments ranked inside the top two fifty. For

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Speaker 1: some context, in Brian Kelly's entire tenure at Notre Dame,

494
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Speaker 1: he only had two full signing classes with more than

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Speaker 1: ten kids ranked in the top two fifty in the country.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Marcus Freeman's got ten of them ranked inside

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Speaker 1: the top two fifty and we got seven months till

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Speaker 1: early signing day. Could some of them decommit? Yeah, A

499
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Speaker 1: much more likely scenario is he'll keep most of them

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Speaker 1: and he'll get more. So they're about to have a

501
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Speaker 1: really good signing class at Notre Dame. And there's a

502
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Speaker 1: lot of talk that's been associated with Notre Dame pre

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Speaker 1: under Brian Kelly that I would say Irish fans tolerated,

504
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Speaker 1: but in their heart of hearts, they never really fully

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Speaker 1: believed it. Here's what it sounded like, Brian Kelly can't

506
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Speaker 1: recruit the same kind of athletes at Notre Dame that

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Speaker 1: other programs can, so they have to take a secondary approach,

508
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 1: or your secondary approach has to be their primary approach.

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Speaker 1: There was a talking point when Brian Kelly was at LSU,

510
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Speaker 1: or excuse me, there was a talking point when Brian

511
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Speaker 1: Kelly was at Notre Dame that they had to just

512
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Speaker 1: take a different approach in recruiting. You can't go after

513
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Speaker 1: the same kids the big boys do. Notre Dame fans

514
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Speaker 1: listened to it, and they saw the results and said, well,

515
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Speaker 1: we can't argue with it as long as those are

516
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Speaker 1: the results. We're recruiting good classes, not elite classes. But

517
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Speaker 1: in their heart of hearts, they always believed there's another notch,

518
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Speaker 1: there's another gear that we can kick it into. Maybe

519
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's just not going to be the guy who

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Speaker 1: does that. And then all of a sudden, Marcus Freeman

521
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Speaker 1: elevates takes over and boom. Sitting here with seven months

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Speaker 1: to go into National Signing Day, they already got ten

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Speaker 1: verbals inside the top two point fifty in the country,

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Speaker 1: which all but two of Brian Kelly's entire classes, and

525
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Speaker 1: they look around and they say, why would we be bitter?

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Speaker 1: It looks like we've got the perfect candidate here, which

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Speaker 1: brings me back to my original point. Because LSU fans

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Speaker 1: love who they have, Notre Dame fans love who they have,

529
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Speaker 1: we could be seeing one of those rarest of occurrences

530
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Speaker 1: in sports, especially college football, the classic win win because

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Speaker 1: LSU folks are looking around saying, we love having Brian

532
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Speaker 1: Kelly here. Brian Kelly looks around and says, I love

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Speaker 1: being here. It's looser, So everything I claim I wanted

534
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Speaker 1: to do and the investment I claim I needed at

535
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, I've got it in Baton Rouge. I kind

536
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Speaker 1: of get to reinvent myself in the process. It's like

537
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in New England versus the way Brady's been

538
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: in Tampa. Just a little looser, seem out a little

539
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Speaker 1: bit more, talks a little bit more. But Notre Dame

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00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: fans couldn't care less about that. They're not bitter because

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Speaker 1: they look and they say, Marcus Freeman's got how many

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Speaker 1: kids in the top two fifty already committed? And it's June?

543
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Speaker 1: What so everyone's looking around and they seem kind of

544
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Speaker 1: happy with where they are right now. Now Notre Dame

545
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: fans kind of get to test that theory they had

546
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Speaker 1: for a long time. You know, I understand. I'm a realist,

547
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: So I understand there's a long way to go before

548
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: that ink is on paper and that class is secured.

549
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: And I understand that ultimately we're going to see Marcus

550
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Speaker 1: Freeman's Notre Dame on the field, and if they don't

551
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: deliver on the field, that's going to negatively effect recruiting.

552
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: I get all that, But the earliest of early returns

553
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: are more positive than the best case scenario would have

554
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: been imaginable. So I think everyone's happy right now. So

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Speaker 1: I've been asked a lot about Kelly, and I've been

556
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Speaker 1: asked a lot about Marcus Freeman. The way I look

557
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: at it is, how's anyone unhappy? Everybody in that equation

558
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: is happy right now. I'm happy because they're watching the

559
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: muscle shows. Alabama must sholes for the locals there. They're

560
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: watching in Washington, Missouri, and our first ever check in

561
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Speaker 1: from Amityville, New York. Contracts are a mess in college football.

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Speaker 1: You can look at the athletic department right now at

563
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: Arkansas and putting on a clinic. They're putting on a

564
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: clinic in all sports pretty much, there's like nothing they're

565
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: bad at at the moment. But it is so refreshing,

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Speaker 1: and to be real with you, surprising when an athletic

567
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: department in the sport of college football handles things in

568
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Speaker 1: a financially sound way. Contracts. To be clear with your

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Speaker 1: head coach, here's how rare it is. A lot of

570
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 1: you guys drive a fair amount. We got a lot

571
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Speaker 1: of truck drivers who listen to the show and watch

572
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: the show. So you guys absolutely know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: But some of you are like me. You just you're

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Speaker 1: on the road a lot. And you know the difference

575
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Speaker 1: in states where the Department of Transportation has their act

576
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Speaker 1: together and other places that just wing it. And the

577
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: main difference is some states have the good working knowledge

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Speaker 1: to do road construction at night, and then there's some

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Speaker 1: of them who do it in the middle of the day.

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Speaker 1: And you know how different it is driving through scenario

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00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: A versus scenario B. Well, for a long time, college

582
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: football contracts have been the dot that just work in

583
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: the middle of the day. And shut down all but

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Speaker 1: one lane, even though they're only working on one lane,

585
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Speaker 1: And you drive through there after you've been waiting in

586
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Speaker 1: traffic an hour and a half, and you throw your

587
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: hands up. What was I waiting on? Why were those

588
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: cones even out there? No one knows. No one has

589
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: an answer for you. They are construction workers sitting over

590
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: here eating sandwiches. You know they've already taken four lunch

591
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: breaks in the day. No one has their act together. Well, Arkansas,

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00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: and this new contract they have with Sam Pittman, which

593
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: you may have heard about, they've got their act together.

594
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: You may have heard Sam Pittman's got himself a new contract.

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00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Do you know the particulars of that new contract? This

596
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: right here is a blueprint? And I want to give credit,

597
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: oh man, who wasn't It was Brad Crawford, our Brad

598
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Crawford earlier this week wrote an article. I think his

599
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: exact words were, this contract with Pittman in Arkansas should

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Speaker 1: serve as a blueprint for a lot of athletic departments

601
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: moving forward, because you got a lot of absurd buyouts

602
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: being paid out there right now for coaches who have

603
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: been fired that you have no business paying that's real money.

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00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: That is real money you guys are paying the old

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00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: school model for Sam Pittman. He went nine and four

606
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: last year. He exceeded everybody's expectations. The old school way

607
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: would be to double his salary, extend him five or

608
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Speaker 1: six years, and put a massive buyout clause in his contract,

609
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: even though you know he's not going anywhere. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: You can spend like a drunken sailor. You can act

611
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: like you're a federal government employee because it's really not

612
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: your money. You'll have an endless supply of it coming in,

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00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: whether it's from television or whether it's just from your

614
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: own donor base. And so when you don't have to

615
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: be fiscally responsible, boy, you can get loose with those

616
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Speaker 1: purse strings. I'll illustrate that momentarily. But that's not what

617
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Arkansas did. Arkansas and Sam Pittman got in a room

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Speaker 1: and they understand how unique, admittedly this situation is, and

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Speaker 1: the situation at Arkansas is. It's a perfect marriage. Sam

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Speaker 1: Pittman is built for Arkansas. Arkansas is built for Sam Pittman.

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Speaker 1: They are interchangeable. You don't detach one from the other.

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Speaker 1: Sam Pittman is Arkansas and vice versa. There's not a

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Speaker 1: big market for Sam Pittman. Like I was not calling

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Speaker 1: up Sam Pittman, just like you know, Oklahoma State was

625
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: never calling up Edwor's run. There are certain guys who

626
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: work perfectly, some more perfectly than others at certain spots.

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Speaker 1: Everybody at Arkansas got that. Sam Pittman gets that. It's

628
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: not like he's threatening to leave and go anywhere anyway.

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Speaker 1: But in having said that, they structured his contract accordingly.

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Speaker 1: So how let me first do this before I give

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Speaker 1: you the particulars. Let me tell you why it needs

632
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: to be done this way. Some of the buyout money

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00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: being paid in college football right now, as I'm sad

634
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: edwars Ron who won a national championship in twenty nineteen

635
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: and was never going anywhere anywhere where in the world.

636
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: Was where was edwards Ron going other than LSU. It

637
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: didn't matter. They gave him a six year extension forty

638
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: two million dollars anyway, and they are now currently they

639
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: being LSU paying edwards are on sixteen point eight million dollars,

640
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: not to coach Auburn is paying Gus Mals on twenty

641
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: one point four million dollars not to coach. South Carolina

642
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: is paying Will mus Champ, who was never in a

643
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: million years going anywhere else thirteen point two million dollars

644
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: not to coach. I ask you what was the leverage play.

645
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: The only leverage play was the chess versus Checker's approach.

646
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: That having Jimmy Sexton as your agent is compared to

647
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: some of the folks that he negotiates against, like it's

648
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: it's gotta be like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes

649
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: for Jimmy Sexton. Can you imagine getting that kind of

650
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: buyout for folks like Will must Champ. Mush Chap's not

651
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: going anywhere other than South Carolina. They still worked him

652
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: a contract where you got to pay him thirteen point

653
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: two million dollars and that's the lump sum that they

654
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: agreed to. His actual buyout number was higher than that.

655
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: It's absurd. So Arkansas looked at that negative. We're not

656
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: doing that, but we also greatly appreciate you, Sam Pittman.

657
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: So here's what they did. They made Sam Pittman the

658
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: highest paid coach in Arkansas history. It's a five year contract,

659
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar base salary. So he's making five

660
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: a year. I would be fine with that. I could

661
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: easily get by, I think on five million dollars year

662
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: and probably has several more spare shirts than I have.

663
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Right now, here's the thing about the contract. It's loaded

664
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Speaker 1: with incentives. He gets a retention bonus of will million

665
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: dollars for each year. So just stay alive, Sam, and

666
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: you get a million dollars each year. But also it

667
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: gets auto extended one year for every time he wins

668
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: seven games. Here's the bonus structure. If he wins seven games,

669
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: he gets a quarter million dollars. If he wins eight games,

670
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: he gets a half a million. If he wins nine games,

671
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: he gets seven hundred and fifty k. And I think

672
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: that also gets bumped on in future contracts for future years.

673
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: If he's fired, Arkansas does owe him seventy five percent

674
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: of this buyout. But here's the important point, children, if

675
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: he gets fired and their winning percentage is below five hundred,

676
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: that number comes down to fifty percent. So you see,

677
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: this is called a merit based contract. And in your world,

678
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: in my world, this is how we have to live.

679
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: We get paid based on how we produce, and then

680
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: if we don't produce, then we get fired and really

681
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: no one ever owes us anything, but the more we produce,

682
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: the more we get paid. And that's kind of the

683
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: way Arkansas chose to do it with Sam Pittman. Sam

684
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: Pittman could make a fortune on this contract. He's going

685
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: to make it as he earns it, and he did

686
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: them a solid. He hired Jimmy Sexton as his agent,

687
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: so this is a Sexton guy too. But I just

688
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: wonder now, and this is kind of a to be

689
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: determined deal, I wonder if this is going to be

690
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: unique to Arkansas, because it is, as I said, admittedly

691
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: a unique environment, kind of a unique connection there. If

692
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: you have a guy that's more the mercenary type and

693
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: he's just at your program because you happen to be

694
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: the highest bidder and he starts having success, are you

695
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to maybe go about it the old school

696
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: way or will this sort of semi revolutionize the way

697
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: contracts are handled. I hope it's the ladder. Just personally,

698
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: I hope it's the ladder because it hurts my soul

699
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: to see someone having to pay twenty one million dollars

700
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: not to coach. That hurts all au Gus Malzin getting

701
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: his But that hurts bold prediction time. It's chapter fourteen,

702
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: Bold Predictions, Chapter fourteen. Oh, we've got five more bold

703
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: ones tonight, almost with a ten. Almost have a ten

704
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: on the boldness scale. So let's start with the one

705
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: that's a seven. Clemson just wins the national championship. That's

706
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: what Adam says. Clemson will return to the top and

707
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: reclaim the college football National Championship from Anderson South Carolina.

708
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I made this one a seven, which sounds pretty lofty.

709
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Why is it a seven on the boldness scale? When

710
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: the Clemson Tigers have the fourth best odds to win

711
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: the national championship. Well, it goes back to how much

712
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: more difficult it is to win it once you're there

713
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: in the playoff than to get to the playoff. Because

714
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: if we're checking in from old Anderson South Carolina and

715
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: we're saying Clem's gonna make the playoff, that's not bold

716
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: win at all, a little bit bolder. You see, there

717
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: is something in the playoff that you come up on.

718
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: It's called Alabama and Ohio State and Georgia that you

719
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: don't come up on with the little due respect that

720
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: there is to the current state of the ACC on

721
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: that ACC schedule. So getting there, yeah, winning it a

722
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: little bit different. I look and I think about two

723
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: different ways this could go. So let's say Clemson does

724
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: win it. Let's say I'm wrong and our guy here

725
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: is right, and they do win it, they have had

726
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: one of two things happen. They're going to have a

727
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: phenomenal defensive line this year, maybe the best in the game.

728
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: So either they have duplicated the Georgia approach where they

729
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: get good enough quarterback play and they just suffocate people

730
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: defensively and no one really rises up with a truly

731
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: revolutionary generational offense against them. Either they do that, or

732
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: dj Uyangoli Lay improves a great deal and they are

733
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: truly a complimentary football team and both of those facets

734
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: O and D play at a high level and it's

735
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: just Clemson football at that point. Or maybe k Klubnik

736
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: just comes out of nowhere as a true freshman like

737
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence did once upon a twenty eight and they

738
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: do it that way. I don't know how it would happen.

739
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: I think it is still fairly bold, even though they're

740
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: favored to get there, to say they win it all

741
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: so I'm going to go with a seven on the

742
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: boldness scale next up. This one was kind of arbitrary,

743
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: so we got to kind of come up with our

744
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: own criteria. Here James from Grove City, Ohio. He said,

745
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: the SEC will not be viewed as the best conference

746
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: in twenty two. The Big ten will rain. Well. I

747
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: had producer Jesse, better known as Stats and Info, go

748
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: and do some digging, and I said, let me know

749
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: how the hierarchy shakes out right now preseason. Of course,

750
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: who's favored to do what? Just give it to me

751
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: like I'm five, So it makes sense. And so producer

752
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Jesse Peter pattered his way into his office. He came

753
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: back out and he said, all right, here's what we

754
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: got for you. In terms of the preseason national Championship odds,

755
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: three of the top five teams are in the SEC,

756
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: most of any conference. If you extend that to the

757
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: top twenty, six of the top twenty are from the SEC, again,

758
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: most of any compference. Now that's great, that's the preseason.

759
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: But we're talking about once toe meats leather, once we

760
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: actually strap it up in the fall and we play.

761
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Because no preseason has ever played out exactly as people expect.

762
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: So what do we have to have happen here? If

763
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: the SEC is viewed in December as anything less than

764
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: the best conference in the country, and the Big Ten

765
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: overtakes them, and it would be the Big Ten if

766
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: this happened. I look around and you could paint me

767
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: a picture where Bama and Georgia, who are the one

768
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: to two in the SEC any given order, they are

769
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: matched by Ohio State, Michigan. Let's just say that could happen.

770
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: But then when you get past tier one, you've got

771
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: to find a way for your Penn States and your

772
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: Michigan States and your Wisconsin's, whatever happens in the West,

773
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: you got to find a way for that group to

774
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: match or exceed the nucleus of tier two in the SEC.

775
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: And that would be Arkansas, Texas a Kentucky this year,

776
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: Ole Miss, like we don't even talk about Old Miss

777
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: on the national scene. And ole Mis could go win

778
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: the ACC this year. So there's a lot of depth

779
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: of quality in the SEC. You've got to have a

780
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: bunch of cannibalization down there, and then you've got to

781
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: have at least one of those Penn State, Michigan State, Wisconsin.

782
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: You got to have another one of them surge to

783
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: the top. I just think it's unlikely that all of

784
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: that coalesces. I think the Big Ten's are very solid conference.

785
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: But to overtake perceptionally or in reality, I guess the

786
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: SEC this year, that'd be a tall order. So I

787
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: made this one an eight. They don't need to, by

788
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: the way, they can accomplish everything they need to be

789
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: in the second best conference in the country. Auburn. The

790
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: Auburn Tigers, yes of over under six win fame right now?

791
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: How about this from Anthony out of Albertville, Alabama. Anthony said,

792
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: no one seems to realize that Auburn was a handful

793
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: of plays away from being a ten win team last year,

794
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: which would completely change the outlook on this year's team

795
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: and coach Harson. That brings me to my bold prediction.

796
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: Auburn wins nine games in twenty twenty two. Okay, time

797
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: to dish out some tough love. This is an eight

798
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: and a half on the boldness scale. Not impossible. In fact,

799
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: Auburn normally does this one. No one expects them to

800
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: do it, However, it is unlikely for reasons, not the

801
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: least which are schedule. Also I have no clue what

802
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: to expect from quarterback at Auburn right now. But this

803
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: is steep, so let's talk about where they are right now.

804
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: They're over underwin total six, so three less than the

805
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: projection here from Anthony. Also, they are looking at a

806
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: situation where I think they can count on being favored

807
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: in four games. And I would say Mercer pretty good shot,

808
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: San Jose State, Missouri at home, and Western Kentucky. Okay,

809
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: those four games, yes, pretty confident they'll be favored in.

810
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll be favored at Mississippi State. I don't know.

811
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: But my point is with the four games I mentioned,

812
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: let's say they beat Mercer, beat San Jose State, they

813
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: beat Missouri, and they beat Western Kentucky. That's four and oh,

814
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: you still got to win five of these games. I'm

815
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: about to list Penn State, LSU at Georgia, at Ole,

816
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: miss Arkansas at Mississippi State, Texas A, and M at Bama.

817
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna do it. I think

818
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: a seven or eight win season is very admirable this year.

819
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: It's not expectation, it's not what they want, but I

820
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: think in a vacuum it would be admirable. Nine wins

821
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: is a little steep there, so I'm gonna say that's

822
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: an eight and a half on the boldness scale. The

823
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: only thing about it is if you're into the intangibles,

824
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, if you're into if you're into the part

825
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: of this game that extends beyond x's and o's and

826
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: what you can diagram and what you can quantify, and

827
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: you just believe that there's some magic that sometimes happens.

828
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: A lot of people from a generation ago will remember famously,

829
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: they call it Jetgate at Auburn, and they know what

830
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm about to say. But if you're if you're in college,

831
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: you're at Louisville, and you don't know the history of Auburn,

832
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: it is its own book. But also, they tried to

833
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: fire Tommy Tuberville in three and they got on a

834
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: jet and ironically they flew to Louisville tried to hire

835
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Petrino. Clearly this was a different world, and Petrino

836
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: had been the OC at Auburn a little while earlier,

837
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: so they were confident they had their man. Problem is

838
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: they that's not how you fire a coach. You don't

839
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: hop on a you don't get boosters and hop on

840
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: a jet in the middle of the night and go

841
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: up to Louisville and secretly interview a coach while you

842
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: still got your coach, and then you doubly especially don't

843
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: let people find out. Well, they went over to there.

844
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: So they went up to Louisville, and they didn't secure

845
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: privacy the way they needed to, and it got out

846
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: and Tellberville got a windfall of support, and then he

847
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: kind of proceeded to go undefeated the next year. Like

848
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: they went undefeated. They didn't lose a single game. They

849
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: went thirteen and oh and didn't play for the national

850
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: title because that was the BCS era. So I'm not

851
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: here to relittigate that. What I am here to say is,

852
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: if you believe in such things, when would be a

853
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: better time for all Aburn to go on a magical

854
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: run than when they just try to some not all

855
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: when they over here in the dark corner of the

856
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: studio here they figuratively tried to run Brian Harson out

857
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: of town and he overcame, and well, what does he

858
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: do this year? We don't know. That story hasn't been

859
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: written yet. Next up, we're going to We're going to

860
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: the treacherous Big Ten West. Ryan said, Iowa is going

861
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: to make it back to the Big Ten championship despite

862
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: a difficult schedule from College Station Texas. This is a

863
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: six on the boldness scale. Now you know my feelings

864
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: on the Big Ten West. I have famously said I

865
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: don't know if it was famous. I have notably said

866
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: there is no bold take in the West. Anyone can

867
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: do anything. So it stands to reason I shouldn't have

868
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: a six on this right Well, I do only because

869
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: of what schedule is for Iowa. They are the only

870
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: team over there that has to play Ohio State and Michigan.

871
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: That's why they're over under. Win total is at seven

872
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: and a half while Wisconsin's is at nine. So I

873
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: think it's a little bolder than I initially thought it

874
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: would be. Thought is gonna put like a four or

875
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: a five maybe at max on this, but they also

876
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: outside of Michigan and Ohio State, this is not an

877
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: easy schedule, especially by the West standards. They go to Purdue,

878
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: I think, got Wisconsin at Minnesota, Nebraska. They have to

879
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: play all of those teams. It's not so much that

880
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: it's how they play them in what order. Look at November.

881
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: If you're listening on podcast, Iowa's season concludes in the

882
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: following fashion at Purdue Wisconsin at home at Minnesota Nebraska.

883
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: It's not easy. I know. If you're like a Texas

884
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: A and M fan, you say, I'd much rather play

885
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: that than what I'm gonna have to play. I bet

886
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: you would. But we're talking in a vacuum here, so

887
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: we're just talking about Iowa within the context of the

888
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: Big Ten West. That's gonna be tough. They had some

889
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: attrition in the interior of the offensive line. Spencer Petris

890
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: is who Spincer Petris is. They're over into win total

891
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: seven and a half. As I said, because of how

892
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: tough that schedule is, I think it's gonna be tough

893
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: to duplicate ten and four last year. I think a

894
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of people are remembering that they had a lot

895
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: of if you want to call it luck, turnover luck,

896
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: you can call it turnover skill whatever. I know. It

897
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't transfer year to year magically, So I'm

898
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna say that's a six. I don't I'm not feeling Iowa.

899
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: That won't be my preseason pick in the Big Ten West.

900
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: But it's been a model of consistency as a program,

901
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: so it's also not wild and crazy. The last one

902
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: here is wild and crazy Mike, who is one of

903
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: our resident UCF fans. I know that much about him,

904
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: he said. My bold prediction is the AAC, the American

905
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: Athletic Conference, will have three teams undefeated going into the

906
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: final week in October, and at least one will be

907
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: ranked inside the top ten. He concludes this with a hint.

908
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: He says the Big Twelve will lay claim to this stat. Obviously,

909
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: he's referring to the three teams that are soon to

910
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: be departed for the Big Twelve. Who is that, Well,

911
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: that's Houston, that's UCF, and that is Cincinnati. The over

912
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: underwent are interesting to look at. In the AAC, no

913
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: one has a double digit over under win total. In

914
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: other words, there is no There is no solid preseason

915
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: or at least a perceived preseason alpha in this conference.

916
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: Since he is at nine and a half, UCF is

917
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: it nine and a half, in Houston is at nine,

918
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: then there's a little gap. So those three, ironically, the

919
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: three teams that are gonna be departing for the Big

920
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: Twelve soon, those are your three leaders in the clubhouse there.

921
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: Now what Mike is saying for though, for all this

922
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: to come true, all of them have to be undefeated

923
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: going into Halloween. Essentially, this is not gonna happen. This

924
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: is a nine and a half. Jesse wanted me to

925
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: make it a nine point nine. It's a nine and

926
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: a half on the boldness scale. Look, since he plays

927
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: at Arkansas in Week one, they're about a touchdown underdog.

928
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: If they lose that game, all this goes up in smoke.

929
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: So that that alone requires a pretty big upset by

930
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: a team that just lost nine guys to the NFL Draft,

931
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: including the quarterback, going on the road in the SEC

932
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: against a team that will play with their hair on

933
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: fire in Arkansas. So they've also got Indiana at SMU.

934
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: That's just since the's schedule, Houston's probably got the most

935
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: workable path. At Texas Tech, they got Rice. Maybe you

936
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: do lose to food here, probably not. They got at

937
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: Memphis at Navy back to back, and UCF plays Louisville

938
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech SMU. My point is they'll win most of

939
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: these games. They're not all three winning all of those games.

940
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: And then you got to have one of them inside

941
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: the top ten, which would probably need to be Cincinnati

942
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: because they are the only one that has a schedule

943
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: that could get them fat enough to be in the

944
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: top ten by Halloween. That's not happening, so I'm gonna

945
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: make that a nine and a half. But the boldness

946
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate because Mike's being true to brand there, He's

947
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: being authentic to his brand. He is an AAC. He

948
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: is a G five guy through and through, and I

949
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: do appreciate that about him. Okay, we continue to roll on.

950
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: Got a couple of questions here. Thank you guys again

951
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: for being tuned in. Hey, I had some of you

952
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: this week. Now that we're into the show a little bit,

953
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: I had some of you this week send me video

954
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: evidence of you subscribe to the channel on your loved

955
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: one's various devices, unbeknownst to them. And while it sounds unethical,

956
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: it's not because I gave you permission to do it,

957
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: So how can it be unethical? And as one of

958
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: you said, they'll never know and it'll never hurt them.

959
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. We are on the drive to

960
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand subs on the YouTube channel right now,

961
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: and we also want as many as we can possibly

962
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 1: get in the podcast feeds and you're doing your job.

963
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Hit all three facets right now. So thank you, thank you,

964
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: and thank you. Just keep it up. That's all I ask,

965
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: Just keep it up. Okay. We had a question here

966
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: about conference championships, and I went back and forth on

967
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: this one for a while. So here's the question. Of

968
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: the four non SEC Power five champions Baylor, Michigan, Utah,

969
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh from last year, which one do you think has

970
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: the best chance to repeat as a conference champion in

971
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So again, to be clear who we're

972
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: talking about here. As you see, pitt won the ACC

973
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: last year, you had Michigan in the Big Ten. All

974
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: these were upsets, by the way. Baylor had the second

975
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: to worst odds to win the Big twelve and they

976
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: ended up pulling it off. And you had Utah win

977
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve, had to beat Oregon twice to do it,

978
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: and they make quick work of them. Here are your

979
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: preseason over underwin totals here. Pitts over under is eight

980
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: and a half, Michigan's is nine and a half, Baylor's

981
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: is eight, and Utah is nine. None of them, I

982
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: don't think none of them are preseason favorites to win

983
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: their conference. Utah's right up there, Utah. In some weeks

984
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: they're like co favorites, or they're right below USC. Point

985
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: is Utah odds wise, they've got the best shot. That's

986
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: according to odds makers. Right like right now in this second,

987
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: Utah and USC or plus two hundreds, so their co

988
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: favorites to win the PAC twelve. I think they're right.

989
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: I think odds makers are right here. I would give

990
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: Utah out of these four teams, I would give them

991
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: the best chance to repeat his PAC twelve champ. In fact,

992
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: if I had to pick, like at this very moment,

993
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: which I don't, but if I had to pick right now,

994
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: I think I would just randomly say Utah in the

995
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. So it's that's not a wild concept at

996
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 1: all for me. They have a I think the forty

997
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: ninth production rate return right now. None of them are

998
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: like top ten in terms of returning the most production.

999
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: I just think Utah's team is the most tailor made.

1000
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: They love what they have a quarterback, like the lines

1001
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: of scrimmage haven't been decimated. Athletically, they're one of the

1002
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: best teams. Kyle Whittingham will have had in there, and

1003
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: they've got everything lined up for him. Because when you

1004
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: play a team like Oregon or you play a team

1005
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: like USC how is your situation going to be any

1006
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: more opportune than both of them having new staffs and you,

1007
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: on the other hand, have one of the most veteran

1008
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: staffs in the country. So I think Utah would be

1009
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: number one. This is where I wrestled the second team

1010
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: I made, Michigan. Michigan has probably got the highest power

1011
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: rated team out of all of them. Like if I

1012
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: put Michigan in Utah on a neutral field, Michigan would

1013
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: be favored. But I also know they're in a conference

1014
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: with Ohio State, which is one of the top two

1015
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: teams in my opinion in terms of favorites to win

1016
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: the title in America this year. So Michigan's got sixty

1017
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: five percent returning production, that's about sixty fifth in the country.

1018
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: But quarterback is intact there. They also, you know, Michigan's

1019
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: a team that is starting to teeter a little bit

1020
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: on that conversation at least. Okay, maybe they're not there

1021
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: the likes of which Alabama is, but maybe they're starting

1022
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: to teeter on that reload instead of Rebuild philosophy, one

1023
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: of those programs that the model is so reliable that

1024
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: you don't even need to know the names. You just

1025
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: start to become familiar with the brand you're going to

1026
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: get from them every year. Now. The reason I'm hesitant

1027
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: there is because they won the Big Ten last year,

1028
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: but before that they had not done that. So we're

1029
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: still kind of early on in the Jim Harbaugh reinventing

1030
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: himself phase. So we'll see. But I think they're the

1031
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: best of the four. That's why they're so high here.

1032
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: They're the second team in this four team grouping. But

1033
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: it's tough to overcome Ohio State. They did it last year.

1034
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: They have to do it again. There'll be a double

1035
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: digit underdog if the numbers hold in Columbus the last

1036
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: week of the regular season. The third team, I kind

1037
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: of flip flopped here. The third team, I'm gonna say

1038
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: it's Pitt. Originally was gonna go Baylor, but I'm gonna

1039
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: make it Pit. They've got the forty fifth ranked returning

1040
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: production in the country. They're kind of all similar there.

1041
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: The reason why I ended up putting Pitt above Baylor

1042
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: is because Baylor's returning production is very bad. And more

1043
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: so than that, it's a tough stretch. But if you

1044
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: look at pitt schedule right here, you're gonna have your attention,

1045
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: as is mine attracted to. Ooh, they start with West Virginia,

1046
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it's not a conference game. Ooh. They

1047
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: play Tennessee a week two, doesn't matter, it's not a

1048
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: conference game. When you look at the conference, they don't

1049
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: play Clemson until maybe the ACC Championship game, and they

1050
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: just I think they have a more workable path. Whereas Baylor,

1051
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: who I put fourth out of four, even as I

1052
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: just praised Dave Randa every day of the week on

1053
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: this show. Baylor they have the oh man, it's one

1054
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty second in the country returning production. They

1055
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: have the fourth best odds to win the Big Twelve. Really,

1056
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: the odds makers aren't that confident in them. They just

1057
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: remember what happened last year. But they go to Texas,

1058
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: they go to Oklahoma, to Texas Tech, to West Virginia too,

1059
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: Iowa State. It's just it's a tough stretch. They got

1060
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: five road games there alone that I read off that

1061
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: are very very difficult. They've got churn at quarterback. They

1062
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: chose to have that. Gary Bohannon was back and Dave

1063
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: Randa chose to go in a different direction. Bohannan transferred,

1064
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go in order Utah, Michigan, Pitt

1065
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: and Baylor, and Baylor doesn't really care because last year

1066
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: they had the second worst odds in Big Twelve and

1067
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: they still got it done. Anyway, Okay, we have a

1068
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: dilemma that we need to weigh in on here. As

1069
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: I readjusted in the chair, this one is near and

1070
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: dear to producer Jesse's heart, So let me straighten the

1071
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: mic for this one. Kevin hit me up and he said,

1072
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: would you rather Penn State keep tradition with a night

1073
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: wide out or see them use it against Ohio State

1074
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: at noon instead of the Minnesota game. Watching from Nashua,

1075
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. I believe dunderd Mifflin had an office there. Okay, look,

1076
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: here's the dilemma. Most of you are unfamiliar with what's

1077
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: going on. This is a big deal at Penn State

1078
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: right now. As you know, they do one white out

1079
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: game per year. It's a spectacle unlike anything you will

1080
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: see in college football. This is actual footage. If you're

1081
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube from the eye, Josh, I'm holding it

1082
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: in my hand. I'm on the field. This was from

1083
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: last year when Auburn was in town. Magical beyond description.

1084
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if you watch it on TV. You just

1085
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: need to go see it in person. You will never

1086
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: ask qhy it's a big deal again if you go

1087
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: see it in person. Well, here's the dilemma. That's not

1088
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: the dilemma. Everyone agrees it's awesome. The dilemma is every

1089
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: Penn State fan and their mother wants the white out

1090
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: game to be Ohio State. Right, that's the biggest game

1091
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: on the schedule this year. And then Fox comes along

1092
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: and you know what Fox did. They pulled the big

1093
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: noon kickoff card out of their back pocket. Wham, and

1094
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: they just smack it on your forehead. And then the

1095
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: powers that be in State College said, we're not going

1096
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: to have a noon kickoff be the white out game.

1097
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: It's got to be under the lights at kind of

1098
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: an unwritten rule. They have not always adhered to it,

1099
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: as records have shown, but they made the Minnesota game

1100
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: the whiteout game. That's October twenty second, and so you've

1101
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: got a sharp divide amongst s nitmy lyon faithful Right now,

1102
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: why is this a big deal? Well, I can sentimentally

1103
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: tell you it's a big deal because it's insane. This

1104
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: is a is one of those spectacles in college football

1105
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: in which the audience, the fan base, they actually have

1106
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: a tangible impact on the game. I know, if you

1107
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: do not attend college football games and you just watch

1108
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: them on TV, or you don't get into this sort

1109
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: of thing, you think it sounds so stupid to say that.

1110
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: It may sound stupid. I'm just telling you it's real.

1111
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: But don't take my word for it. I have this

1112
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: trusty piece of paper in my hand, which that's anos

1113
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: handed me. If you don't believe the white out has

1114
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: a tangible impact on games, then you tell me, sir,

1115
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: how this happens. Penn State has held every opponent below

1116
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: their seasonal scoring average during whiteout games except twenty thirteen

1117
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: against Michigan, and that was an overtime game. So every

1118
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: opponent that's come in there and faced that environment has

1119
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: been held below their seasonal scoring average except one time,

1120
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: and that was an overtime game, so we don't even

1121
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: count that. Also, if we're talking about the Buckeys specifically,

1122
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: Ohio State has been a white out victim a lot.

1123
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen, and twenty eighteen, three consecutive trips

1124
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: to Happy Valley, Ohio State is the white out game.

1125
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: They were held to fifteen point eight points less than

1126
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: their average over that span. So you can either get

1127
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: into the emotional side and just say to be the

1128
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: white out, or you can be like me and you

1129
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: could say, uh, look at the numbers. This surreal thing

1130
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: now is not just something made for TV. It's an

1131
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: actual weapon that Penn State has to use against an opponent.

1132
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: He can't do it every week, or it wouldn't be

1133
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: a weapon, but they choose one night per year or

1134
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: maybe a date per year to pull it out. So

1135
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: producer Jesse a nitney lyon himself, he is very very

1136
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: conflicted over this. He's been talking about it to me

1137
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: for a solid week, Like I text him what should

1138
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: we eat tonight? Not gonna be a wit. I don't

1139
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: know that. Jesse is very very torn, and I have

1140
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: found I was texting back and forth with Sean Fitz today,

1141
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: who we wish good luck to on his future endeavors,

1142
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: just because he's not going to work here anymore. It

1143
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I don't have his phone number, and I

1144
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: will abuse it as I see fits. So I was

1145
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: abusing it earlier tonight, and I said, fits, if we

1146
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: were to split the entire fan base, fifteen year old's

1147
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: fifty years old, one hundred and fifty years old, if

1148
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: they exist, I want to know what the split is.

1149
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: How many of those folks up there think that the

1150
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: white Out Game should be the Ohio State game even

1151
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 1: though it's a noon kickoff? And he said, well, first

1152
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: you would have to debate them for an hour on

1153
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: how the Ohio State game shouldn't be a noonkickoff. Then

1154
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: if you got through all that, you'd probably get sixty

1155
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: forty in favor of making the Ohio State game the

1156
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: Whiteout Game even though it's a noonkickoff. Here's the thing,

1157
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: you know. I'm all about tradition. Love tradition. This kind

1158
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: of stuff makes college football unique. That's why I'm into it.

1159
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: All the traditions, I'm into them. It's just that this

1160
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: one's a little more awesome than most. I am a

1161
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: believer that with most rules there should be a built

1162
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: in exception to the rule. Shouldn't be commonplace. But with

1163
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: most rules, you can have an exception to that rule,

1164
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: especially if you create the parameters like this is not

1165
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: a law, it's not the speed limit, and we're saying,

1166
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna choose to do ninety but

1167
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: just one day out of the week. You get to

1168
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: make the rules. You are Penstate, you get to make

1169
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 1: the rules, so you can make it a general consensus that, yeah,

1170
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: the whiteout Game's gonna be a night game. But to me,

1171
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: this is one camp. One camp says there needs to

1172
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: be this little lever over here that we can pull

1173
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: just in case we have I have a home schedule

1174
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: that screams Ohio State's the biggest game by ten miles,

1175
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: and we can make it a whiteout game even if

1176
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: Fox pulls the big noon kickoff card out of their

1177
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: back pocket. There's that camp, and then there's the camp

1178
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: that's pure tradition and they say, Nope, we're gonna have

1179
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: that thing at night. But the thing about it is

1180
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: it hasn't always been at night. I was very surprised

1181
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: to find how many whiteout games have been held during

1182
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: the day. So where do I come down on this? Famously,

1183
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: I like to ride the fence on these sorts of things.

1184
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: Because on one hand, I really want you to like me.

1185
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: On the other hand, boy, I really want the administration

1186
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: to like me. But I've got to take, I think

1187
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: your side on this. If Sean Fitz is reliable, I've

1188
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: got to take sixty percent of your sides on this.

1189
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: And I got to say, here's the way I look

1190
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: at it. If I were a famous gladiator, let's say

1191
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: it's reasonable I could see that about myself. But if

1192
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: I were a fighter, you know, if I were a

1193
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: famous swordsman, but I only did my fighting at night,

1194
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden someone came up on me

1195
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: at three point thirty in the afternoon one day, I

1196
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: would not hesitate to pull out that sword just because

1197
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: the sun was still shiny. It's a weapon I have,

1198
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: and I'm going to use it because it is the

1199
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: best way I can defend myself. The white out is

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01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: a weapon that Penn State has, and having experienced it,

1201
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: I know it means a lot. And those numbers I

1202
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: just read tell you the white out means something. I

1203
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: couldn't care less what time they kicked the Ohio State

1204
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: game off. If I'm running operations up there, I'm whiting

1205
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: that thing out and Minnesota can be what Minnesota is.

1206
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: I feel good about my chances against them either way.

1207
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: In fact, if I'm losing to Minnesota at home this year,

1208
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: I got bigger problems that the white out even can't solve.

1209
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State is getting the white out treatment from me.

1210
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: A side note, I may very well be at that game,

1211
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: So regardless of what you're wearing in the stands, you

1212
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: know what your boy here will be wearing. I appreciate

1213
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: so much you guys being tuned in. Here's the programming

1214
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: note for this week. I think, and I'm only like

1215
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: seventy percent sure of this. You're sixty percent on the

1216
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: white out. I'm seventy percent sure that we're going to

1217
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: have our show on Thursday night. Seventy percent sure. We

1218
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: may have to pre record it. Here's what's happening. Cmafest

1219
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: is back in downtown Nashville after a two year absence.

1220
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: So apparently the entirety of the populations of about nineteen

1221
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: states are going to descend upon downtown. We are in

1222
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: the middle of downtown Nashville, and apparently our garage is

1223
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: going to turn into something between Sodom and Gomorrah. Doesn't

1224
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: sound like something that I want to expose the innocence

1225
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: of Jesse and Colin too. I'll be fine. I'm a chameleon, Okay,

1226
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: I can work my way through these environments, but I

1227
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: don't want them having to drive through that. So anyway,

1228
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: I say all that and say we'll probably keep our

1229
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: same schedule. It may sound a little different, and you

1230
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: know thematically, something may break Thursday morning that I don't

1231
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: cover on the show. So just keep your eyes on

1232
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: the twitter feed. I'm gonna let you know what the

1233
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: programming schedule is at Late Kick, Josh, and one other thing.

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01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: Many many, many of you have been asking about my

1235
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: contract because I told you a month and a half ago.

1236
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: My last day here was May thirty. First. Well here

1237
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: it is June fifth. You have rightfully asked me, what

1238
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: gives you told us that you were going to keep

1239
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: us updated. I am going to keep you updated. I

1240
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: do not have an update to give you right now.

1241
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 1: If you're wondering how I can be sitting here after

1242
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: my contract has expired but with no update to give you,

1243
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: all I can tell you is very soon it's crossed.

1244
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: I will give it to you in a way that

1245
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: makes all this make sense. So the show's going to

1246
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: be fine no matter what happens. That I can promise you,

1247
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: I will have an update coming whenever. As you can tell,

1248
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: our balls are in therefore, and that's all I have

1249
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: to say about that. For director Colin, for producer Jesse,

1250
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. Have yourselves a great start to your week,

1251
01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: and God bless