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Speaker 1: Quest Left Show is a production of iHeart Radio. Are

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Speaker 1: we on?

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Speaker 2: Are we on? We're always on? We're always But like,

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Speaker 2: so Jimmy did what?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Phil Collins is on the Tonight Show and

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Speaker 3: he's agreed to let the Roots play and then air

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Speaker 3: Tonight as the song, and of course you know it

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Speaker 3: comes with the iconic drum roll.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 3: I went all out for this. I went and found

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Speaker 3: the drum set that he actually played.

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Speaker 1: Everything you did. We are preparing for it, of course

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Speaker 1: you did, and the entire show from the top of

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Speaker 1: the show, we have Phil Collins Tonight. Don't mess up?

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Speaker 1: Like literally, he meant it jokingly.

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Speaker 3: And so we're on the last verse, I remember, and

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden I looked to my right and

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Speaker 3: you can see Jimmy's head poking out like the parent

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Speaker 3: of a school play, like, don't mess this up. And

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Speaker 3: whenever I'm in a situation where okay, this is what

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Speaker 3: my therapist calls, this is me manifucting myself, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, all right, I can't mess up. I can't

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Speaker 3: miss You've done this a million times, like literally in

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Speaker 3: my head, right this you mess up? And literally he's

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Speaker 3: like and you told me, and I'm like, I can't

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Speaker 3: mess up.

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Speaker 1: Can you know?

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Speaker 3: He's like herd doesn't show all right? I mean you

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Speaker 3: got this pain still crows. I'm looking at the band.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's looking, dude, do you and me? And I hit

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Speaker 3: myself right in?

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Speaker 2: Of course you did, Yes, of course you.

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Speaker 1: Did first hit it. Yeah, I hit myself in the face,

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Speaker 2: I played that song last night in the car on

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Speaker 2: the drive to the premiere of Scarpetta. It is like

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Speaker 2: a fight song, you know. It was raining and like

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Speaker 2: it was sort of like my pump up song before

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Speaker 2: going into the.

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Speaker 1: You still need that after all this time. You need

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Speaker 1: to get in the mind state. O I do? I do? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I used to listen to the theme song from Rocky

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Speaker 2: Oh Going to Fly now. Yeah, but no, doun dun.

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Speaker 2: I used to listen to it in my car and

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Speaker 2: its entirety just to sort of like give me a

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's good to know that you still have to.

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Speaker 3: I figured after a police in a person's.

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Speaker 1: Career where they're already arrived that you know they just

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Speaker 1: show up in No, you got to pump it up

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Speaker 1: a little. I got that, all right, So let me

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Speaker 1: get some context. No, why I got because I'm a

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Speaker 1: profession now.

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Speaker 2: I know you are with a lowercase p.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So basically, two days ago I had something else totally

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Speaker 3: planned and I got a text from uh Today's guests

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Speaker 3: or I texted Today's Guests, which I am.

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Speaker 2: Smelled me in the hall.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, you were on Kelly Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Clarkson and I waffed it down the hall. I have

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Speaker 2: a signature scent that lingers.

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Speaker 1: Yes you did, and.

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Speaker 3: I turned around, but you had already hit the corner

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Speaker 3: because I walked fast, and I let it go.

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Speaker 1: And ten minutes later I was like, was Jamie Lee

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Speaker 1: Curtis just in this all? And literally yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it anyway, So to let you guys know

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Speaker 1: our guest today.

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Speaker 2: Is oh, they already know, right, so they already know.

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Speaker 1: You won't let me give you. Your flowers are for me?

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Speaker 2: I do I avoid flowers. See I avoid the flowers.

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Speaker 1: Why we're cool? No, we have to now get in

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Speaker 1: the space where we.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what you do your flowers. I'll just

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Speaker 2: check out your cool glass.

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Speaker 3: I literally had to check out your cool glass.

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Speaker 1: There you go, So literally what more can I say?

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Speaker 3: About our guests, Iconic SAG Award winner, Emmy Award winner,

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Speaker 3: Golden Globe, Independent Spirit Award winner, Oscar winner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that I have nothing to do with it?

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Speaker 2: Why is that.

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Speaker 1: Nothing to do with it?

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Speaker 2: Are wrong? Wrong?

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Speaker 1: You knew this was happening.

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Speaker 3: I didn't tell you this way Too many in her

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Speaker 3: cannon a bunch of films that have changed our life. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you have a canon. It's time for your flowers. I'm ready,

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Speaker 3: Jamie Lee Curtis, welcome to the question.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me and for being you.

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Speaker 1: And I'll make this not awkward. This won't just be

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Speaker 2: It's never going to be awkward. I can't be awkward.

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Speaker 2: I'm humans. I'm awkward just waking up, do you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, it's not going to ever be awkward, at.

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Speaker 1: Least to our first question.

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Speaker 3: All right, So we've had a meeting, and for me,

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Speaker 3: I believe it was seven am, but for you it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was amazed at how alert you were.

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Speaker 3: And I'm under the understanding that people in California also

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Speaker 2: Four o'clock? I wake up at four o'clock with.

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Speaker 1: A job, without a job on the clock. Four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, just I wake up at four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: I love? First of all, I was born early in

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Speaker 2: a morning person. I'm not a night person. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I want to be at your game nights. I used

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Speaker 2: to host game nights. I was famous for hosting game nights.

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Speaker 2: I've invented some games that we play at game nights.

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Speaker 2: My problem is there at night, I don't do well.

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Speaker 2: The lights go down, I go to bed.

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Speaker 1: When was your game night period, like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm the girl who says, let's do a

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Speaker 2: book is called Quest for Love. For lack of a

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Speaker 2: Then everybody at the table writes what they think the

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Speaker 2: to vote. Every person votes, and you get a point

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Speaker 2: actually get really incredible writing from it. I've saved everyone

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Speaker 2: that person. So anyway, I'm a game night person, but

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Speaker 2: I can't do game night because you do it late

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Speaker 2: at night and you probably have cocktails. And do you

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Speaker 1: I have something close to that. We are elevating our.

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Speaker 2: Game nights to a TV show.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can talk about this or not,

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Speaker 3: but if hypothetically there were a situation like that in

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Speaker 1: This idea that I look super fun. I literally want

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Speaker 1: have had Okay, sorry, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: We don't know each other, by the way, for the people,

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Speaker 2: But can I actually say, well, we're kindreds sirs, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: mutual admiration. We just peop. You know, you see people

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Speaker 2: other again. So you and I met at a screening

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Speaker 2: for Everything Everywhere, all at once. At the time, when

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Speaker 2: and somebody said, ooh, that's Questlove. Questlove just got here.

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Speaker 3: It, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you got

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Speaker 2: I did not. I just said fuck you and then

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Speaker 2: and go you motherfucker. How did you know?

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Speaker 2: Is a digital morg what a reallyful way of saying it.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, you're you're talking to a dope fiend who's sober

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'd read that quote every morning, like literally

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Speaker 2: I should have just said, do you know the quote?

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Speaker 2: It's not their fucking life. They're living their lives. They

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: I just don't hold on to something clinging? You know

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Speaker 2: At thirty seven, I was thirty five years old that

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Speaker 3: So you are aware at least by that point, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Your name behind your back is like jameley Hurst. Damn.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm allow yourself to bask in that.

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Speaker 2: Life's too hard. Life's too hard for everybody. The world

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking permission. I don't want it.

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Speaker 2: ruin what it is you've got going. And that was

440
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: the greatest gift he could have ever given me, because

441
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: I have just from then on gone, okay, whatever, I

442
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: don't really know what I do. And I'm not being

443
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: self deprecating because it's funny. Do you know the Dopey podcast?

444
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: Not heard of it?

445
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: Okay, the Dopey podcast is dope fiends that dealt with Yeah,

446
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: And and he lost his partner, not life partner, his

447
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: best friend partner in the show to an overdose, and

448
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: I've I've done the show. I've I did it here

449
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 2: in New York. And I'm telling you that because I

450
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 2: read him the same quote that I could read you,

451
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: which is and this would apply to you. Okay. Do

452
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: you know Hannah Gatsby? Okay, Yes, they have a special

453
00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: they did called Nanette. I remember where I was watching it,

454
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 2: and I start soing, but I mean like ugly crying

455
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: because I was so moved by what they were saying.

456
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: And let me just find it on the internet, which

457
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: I will find because it speaks to what we're talking about.

458
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

459
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 2: I have built a career out of self deprecating humor,

460
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: and I don't want to do it anymore. Do you

461
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: understand what self deprecation means when it comes from somebody

462
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: who already exists in the margins? It's not humility, it's humiliation.

463
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: I put myself down in order to speak, in order

464
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: to seek permission to speak, and I simply will not

465
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 2: do that anymore, not to myself or anybody who identifies

466
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: with me. If that means that my comedy career is over,

467
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: then so be it. I loved I remember when I

468
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: watched that. I remember where I was. I was sobbing

469
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: because I have self deprecated my whole life. And it

470
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: isn't humility. It is humiliation. It is a way of

471
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: being very small. And I don't do that as much anymore.

472
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm pretty able to say I know what I'm good

473
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: at and I know what I am not good at.

474
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: I'm probably five years into that process.

475
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: A lot of it is just.

476
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: The rewiring my mind to all of us think you know,

477
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: to think that, but I'm actually shocked that I made

478
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: it five decades to this place. You and me both

479
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: in sort of the worst condition. And Okay, I guess

480
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: like a lot of people when I tell them this,

481
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: they looked at me like an alien, like, but you're

482
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: guys living.

483
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, and I'm looking at you like, okay,

484
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: they did not know.

485
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: But here's what I can tell you. Those are just

486
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: old ideas. I'm a big the reason I'm not a

487
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: nostalgic person because I'm a new ideas person. I will

488
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: every day you have the opportunity to look at something

489
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: and go, oh, that's an old idea of mine, that's

490
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: an old idea of myself. That's an old idea of

491
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: a friendship. That's an old idea of a behavior. It's

492
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: an old idea of a mindset. And I can have

493
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: a new one because God gave us brains to use.

494
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: That's the amazing thing about the human mind is we

495
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: can change our minds. We can learn, we can rewire,

496
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: we can rethink. We can have a feeling about someone

497
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: and then say, you know what, I don't have that

498
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 2: feeling for you anymore. And I know that's hurtful, but

499
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend I have that feeling for

500
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: you anymore and spend the rest of my life pretending

501
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: I do. That's a brave statement of self ownership.

502
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Have you not broken up with friends? But have you?

503
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: Okay, teach me because Spring this part of the journey

504
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: is probably the hardest. And I guess my answer to

505
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: it is to hide and now live out in the country.

506
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: I you know, and I still have to look people

507
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 3: in the eye and communicate and all those things. So

508
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: how do you know when someone's not serving you anymore

509
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: and that you need to pivot and move on.

510
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 2: To You know it? You know it the way you

511
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: know it is? You know it? You know what?

512
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: Is that?

513
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: Why? Okay? What what is it?

514
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: If you know you know?

515
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Right, if you know you know, push your tight I'm

516
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: saying you don't even know it. If you know you know.

517
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: But if you know, you know, and I from the

518
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: clips this is your legend. I believe you know when

519
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: you know, and I think you know when you know.

520
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: And the extricating from those relationships is painful. Sometimes distance

521
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: just happens. You know. I'm not suggesting that every one

522
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: of those relationships you should hold a summit and declare

523
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: a break of the relationship, and I you know, never

524
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 2: the twain shall meet and we will never. But I

525
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: do believe there's a way. It just happens organically, and

526
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: before you know it, you haven't talked to that person

527
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: in six months. And by the way, I'm not saying

528
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: that there's this big pejorative negative attachment to them. It's

529
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: I have changed and I'm no longer who I was yesterday.

530
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm different than I was yesterday, here today with you,

531
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: and then hopefully tomorrow I will be different too. And

532
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: the goal of life is to be able to still

533
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: the gate marriages, children, you know, close friendships, your family.

534
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: You can't really divorce your family. You can't really well,

535
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: you can separate from your family, of course. But you

536
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I'm just saying that I think

537
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: you know when you know, and I think you just

538
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: you take your own counsel to look at. I'm a

539
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: big to thine own self be true. Like that's just

540
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: a cornerstone for me.

541
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? So for me, the number is five.

542
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 3: I'll ask you who are the three people when or

543
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: if you feel yourself sort of getting close to either

544
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: manifucking yourself or you need to be talked off a

545
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: line they do like manifucking. That's a shout out to

546
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: Lawrensander for that. I got to credit people who to

547
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: take that from. Who are the three people that are

548
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: your alleged talkers? Who who do you turn to when?

549
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: Ah, I'm not that person. I have a beautiful friend

550
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: in Losane who is in our industry, and we were

551
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: very very very close friends, and then since since families

552
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: and children, we have remained very much each other as

553
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: cheerleaders and pride holders. And when I feel like I

554
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: need to be able to share a moment and say

555
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 2: I need to like I need to share this with you,

556
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: because she shares it with me, I have that I'm

557
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: not a big ledge. I'm not a big ledge girl.

558
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm old.

559
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: Are you the person we were in too? When we are?

560
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: I am a bit and I'm.

561
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: Their pressure for you to always be the wise age.

562
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: And I also am sober. And I talk to and

563
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: communicate with a lot of people every day through lists

564
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: of gratitudes and fears and sort of I share. There's

565
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: a book called the Book of Awakening, which is a

566
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: not necessarily a spiritual book, but it's written by a

567
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: poet and it has a daily sort of reminder. I'm

568
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: that person.

569
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm am I allowed to ask.

570
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: Have you ever went public with your rock bottom moment

571
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: that led you to sobriety?

572
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: Of course?

573
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I'm billboards of me all over the

574
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: United States right now with the Foundation for a Better

575
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: Life that talks about me getting sober as the bravest

576
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: thing I've ever done in my life.

577
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: What was your lowest year?

578
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: Oh? I got sober in nineteen ninety nine, in February

579
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: of no I was an opiate addict. I was a

580
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: secret opiod addict.

581
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: I was Oh, secrets too, how do.

582
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: You have secrets? Well, secrets, that's you know, that's what

583
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: addicts do. That's what so I mean, It's all good.

584
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: I've been sober for a long time and I work

585
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: with a lot of people, and I talk often with

586
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: sober people, men, women.

587
00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: You know.

588
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm so I process, I have psychoanalysis. I process a

589
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: lot on the daily, so I don't end up near

590
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: the ledge. The ledge rarely comes for me because I've

591
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: I have anticipated. I'm an anticipator. I'll see that ledge

592
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: coming and I'll start to work on trying to avoid it.

593
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: So you live in the present.

594
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: I live totally in the present, never in the past.

595
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: I don't look back at comments. People will say, oh,

596
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: you posted something, you got a lot. I'll be like,

597
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: really what I was like, don't read the comment. That's

598
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: my secret, Like, don't read comments, Just say what you

599
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: need to say. There was a quote about the Beatles

600
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: was say what you need to say and put a

601
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: backbeat to it. It's just sort of like, say what

602
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: you need to say, and I say what I need

603
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: to say how I need to say it. I try

604
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: to avoid stepping in shit, which I've done obviously, be many,

605
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: many many times, because just the nature of the beast,

606
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: and you know, I try to avoid those moments. If

607
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: I can sit now.

608
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: I'm afraid to ask you ask a question about the past.

609
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: Because ask me the past.

610
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Go okay, because really this is like truly one of

611
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: the rare times where I get to ask someone.

612
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: That you ask whatever you want to ask.

613
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: Was part of an era, okay. So I always wanted

614
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: to know, especially for an actress. And this comes from

615
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: me watching like Once upon a Time in Hollywood three

616
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 3: or four times, you know, because you really sort of

617
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: took your first steps into your career in the mid

618
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: seventies to be a teenager, to be a woman and

619
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: a teenager in the seventies, especially in the Sharontate era,

620
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: the Manson era, was there just a general fear surrounding

621
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: you being in that environment in Hollywood that one day

622
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: you might turn up missing or like, how cautious were you?

623
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: So here's what you need to know, Okay. I lived

624
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: on a dirt road in a house with a fairly

625
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: conservative set of parents, and I just was a schoolgirl.

626
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: I had.

627
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: There was nothing Hollywood about my life at all, nothing nothing.

628
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: I was not a party girl. I wasn't a club girl.

629
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: I was a good girl. I was not a bad

630
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: girl on any level. I wanted to be a bad girl.

631
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to be Susie Quattro. I wanted to be

632
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: Chrissy Hind. I wanted to be bad and rebellious. And

633
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 2: I was just a good girl. I said, yes, ma'am,

634
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes sir, And weirdly enough, Sharon Tate's house. I lived

635
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: off of Bennett Canyon, and I passed Clo Drive every

636
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: single day on my way to school and on my

637
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: way back. So I passed Clo Drive twice a day

638
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: every day for my entire childhood. And that's where she

639
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: was killed. I remember my mother was very famous at

640
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: the time, and so I do remember we had an

641
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: armed guard in front of our dirt road gate for

642
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: like a week. I remember there was a guy sitting

643
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: in a chair in front of our gate. But beyond that,

644
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 2: I was not that girl. That was never even a question.

645
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: So this means you're a kick ass actress, because.

646
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: I am a kick ass actress, is what I am.

647
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: I am just now I can tell you that I'm fearless.

648
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: I since I've gotten to know you, and this actually

649
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: started when I started directing the SNL episode, which I'll

650
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 3: say that I probably have watched every episode of SNL,

651
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: like a thousand and two, like in a three year

652
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: period of me working on that documentary and especially watching

653
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 3: your eighty two.

654
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: Episode where you host it. Yeah, well, first I.

655
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: Was like, I probably would have been her friend had

656
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: I been a prominence in the early eighties or eighty

657
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: two whatever. You just seem like the most fun person,

658
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: which I'm skipping. All right, I can't believe I'm doing

659
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: this for the first time in my life.

660
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: You're closing your thing. Close the fucking thing. And by

661
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: the way, don't you worry about like what I'm supposed

662
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: to be talking about. Don't you worry. I'll say the

663
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: name of the show, and life will be good. Everyone

664
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: will be happy. Nobody's going to not watch Scarpetta on Amazon,

665
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: starring Nicole Kidman and me from the Patricia Cornwell novels. Yes,

666
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: because I'm on your pod or not. I appreciate I

667
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: didn't come here to talk about Scarpetta. I know they

668
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: would love me to say Scarpetta on Amazon, but I

669
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: didn't come here. I came here because you said three

670
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: words for me, No, four words, dust off your mantle.

671
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: That blew my mind. I cannot tell you what that

672
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: meant to me, because.

673
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Are you saying, ma'am was the only person.

674
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: The only person, and it was so out of the

675
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: possibility of realm, just like not possible. Anyway, I want

676
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: to tell you I am the only person who's hosted

677
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: SNL twice, never with Lorne Michaels. My years were Gene

678
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: Domanian that one year she did it right when he left,

679
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: and one year with Dick Eversol when Lorne Michaels left,

680
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: and then he came back the next year and brought

681
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: my husband there, and then I got married to Chris

682
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: that year, nineteen eighty eight four four, And so it

683
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: was weird because I've never met Lorne Michaels. I hosted

684
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: SNL twice, not my metier. I am not a sketch comedian.

685
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm just not.

686
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 3: You have to acknowledge at least that the last time

687
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: you won the show, which leads me to my I

688
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: just want to story of the entire process of making

689
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: the perfect video with Jamaine Jackson.

690
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, so it was so bizarre, that was so.

691
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Well, let me at least give you flowers here.

692
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: You transformed into that character, even as did I purposely

693
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: stayed out the way I didn't want to.

694
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: He told me, guess what I'm gonna do, and I said,

695
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: I already know what.

696
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: You're gonna do, because anything to do with your volta,

697
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: And of course he's here, I know what you're gonna do.

698
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: And Perfect is almost like an underground like it's a

699
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: weird movie.

700
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Man, it is, but a weird movie.

701
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: The thing is is that Perfect came along when America

702
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: was getting cable, and so I've seen Perfect at least

703
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: four or five times simply because it was always on HBO. Yeah,

704
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: so it might have not been a big box office hit,

705
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: but we know that film, and we.

706
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: Mean it was supposed to be. It was the big

707
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: Columbia Pictures Summer movie nineteen eighty five, this cover of

708
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone for their double summer issue. It was supposed

709
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: to be. And by the way, it was supposed to

710
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: be great music. I mean, you had the opportunity, and

711
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: somehow the best song they could come up with was

712
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: closest thing to Perfect.

713
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: What.

714
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: I was so disappointed that they couldn't. They ended up

715
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: using Jump. That was the song I used when we

716
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: were like doing the work, and like it was an

717
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: old song, it wasn't even a new song. I couldn't

718
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: believe they couldn't come up with a better soundtrack, closest

719
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: thing to perfect him in a white unitard with a

720
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: with a with an erection.

721
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, come on, look, Jermaine Jackson's catching a last

722
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: slander on the internet.

723
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: Hair whatever, but.

724
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: Wait, what what happened?

725
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: No?

726
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: No, no, oh, stuff it back the fuck off Internet.

727
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: Let the guy be Jermaine Jackson. Yes, it happened to

728
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: wear a white one suit and had an erection.

729
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: I mean everyone did.

730
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if everyone did.

731
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: But it was a But they still showed that video

732
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: endlessly on BT, and I always wanted to know, like.

733
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: Just the song's not good, but.

734
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: Somehow they just rammed it down our throats because there

735
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: weren't a lot of product back then.

736
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: That was a weird.

737
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: So you thought you just did a video and it

738
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: just like went down the hole and no one saw it.

739
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: Well I hadn't. I mean obviously yes, but I mean

740
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: I understand it's been seen.

741
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: I'll say for black people, if you're not a hard junkie.

742
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: With Halloween, we really got to know your trading places,

743
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: I know. But Perfect was always on BT at least

744
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: like once an hour. Because it's also like Jermaine's in

745
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: the Shadow of Michael Anything Jackson wise just got rammed

746
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 3: down our throats and I probably like, if you say Jamie.

747
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: Lee Curtis the first thing I think of, It's perfect.

748
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: It's just you and.

749
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: Yes White, Onesie.

750
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: Yes, and I always white. It was a weird back

751
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: vend It was so weird.

752
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: It was a little weird. I mean, I mean it

753
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: was perfectly lovely. I just hated the song. I just

754
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: couldn't believe this was the fucking song that we were

755
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: going to turn this into a hit movie with that

756
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: was gonna be the song of the summer.

757
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: I was like, really, they tried it, they tried it.

758
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: Of all of your characters, pleaded, which one were you

759
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: given a lease?

760
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: Uh? In terms of elasticity to mold into true lives?

761
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: For sure?

762
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: What was it initially and how did you change it?

763
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: Well, the elasticity was the trust from Jim. Jim Cameron

764
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: wrote it for me. Now I'm me and believe me.

765
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: That was weird to get a phone call and have

766
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: the phone ring at my house. I remember where I was,

767
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: I remember where I was sitting. Phone rang, phone rang, Hello, Hi, Jamie,

768
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: It's James Cameron. Yeah, like, because you know, okay, okay, sure, hi,

769
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: James Cameron.

770
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Like wife earlier the matter, I stilled the.

771
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: Phone rings and Hyatt's James Cameron like.

772
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Really, are you generally shocked when you get the call?

773
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Well, of course, I'm a mom with you know, I'm

774
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: sitting in my house anyway, he said, I've written this

775
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: movie for you. Okay, you may think I am. I'm

776
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: just not sure that I think. And that's lovely. And

777
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: you said dust off your mental And I will never

778
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: forget that as long as I live to the day

779
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: I die, I will remember those four words because it changed,

780
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: it began then something that became, you know, unthinkable and extraordinary.

781
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 2: But all I want is freedom, Like I want freedom here.

782
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: I don't want you to be here. I want you

783
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: to be here, I don't I want freedom. I want

784
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: to take the material and then be able to do

785
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: with it whatever the freedom that takes me, and being

786
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: free as an actor is not something that I have

787
00:42:54,520 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: felt necessarily throughout my career. True lies, Jim Cameron can

788
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: do every single job on that movie. There is not

789
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: a job on a movie set that Jim Cameron cannot

790
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: do himself, not one he could even because he would

791
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: learn how to make clothes. He would go, he would

792
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: learn how to work a sewing machine, and he could

793
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: make you clothes. He cannot act, He cannot act. He

794
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: can build a camera, he can build a set, He

795
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: can do every job on a movie except act.

796
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: How will you know to capture the perfect performance?

797
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: Then, so he trusts who he hires, and he loves actors,

798
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: and he loves that process. He loves the the weird

799
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: alchemy of what it takes to take words and turn

800
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 2: them into feelings and turn them into emotions. And he

801
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: cannot lead you there. He is not going to have

802
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: the secret key to open the door to get you

803
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: emotionally to a place. He hires you to do your job,

804
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: and that level of trust and freedom is extraordinary. The

805
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: same thing happened on the Bear. I had never met

806
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Chris Starr. We had texted, We had one phone call

807
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: that lasted one minute. I'm so great, I'm so stoked

808
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: you're doing this. That's so great. I asked him for

809
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: a couple of references of how he wanted her to look.

810
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: That was it. I showed up in Chicago having never

811
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: met anybody, not one person, not one person in that kitchen,

812
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: did I know? And I showed up as Donna Brazado

813
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: and he said, let's roll. And I was freed, freed

814
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: to just take the text, which beautifully written, every word

815
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: is written, and interpret it and then play the scenes.

816
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: And I've never been freer.

817
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: Right now, My my comfort zone, my safety is musical documentaries.

818
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: That's my safe zone. Actually, you're one of the first people.

819
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: Who have come to you saying I think you can

820
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: I can think I think you can do a narrative.

821
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 3: Right So, literally after that phone call, I sat there

822
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: with my manager Sarah, who you met, like something like

823
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 3: about to have a colonic right there, like I can't

824
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: do this?

825
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: You think I can do that? No? No, No.

826
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: My question to you is what is the process of

827
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: when a director talks to an actor of what they want?

828
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: Like when all right, let me pick something that's okay,

829
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: So when you're chosen for a Freaky Friday, I'm pulling.

830
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Something random from from your past.

831
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 3: Been in a situation where you know a director knows

832
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: exactly what they're doing, exactly what they want, and then

833
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: you've been in a situation probably where the director doesn't

834
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: know anything.

835
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: Can I recommend something to you?

836
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: Yes?

837
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Have you had Maggie jillen haul on here yet?

838
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Not at all?

839
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys should ask Maggie to come and have

840
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: this convot with you, because Maggie's wrote and directed The

841
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: Bride just coming out with Christian Bale and Jesse Buckley.

842
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: This is a movie Maggie wrote and directed. And I

843
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: watched something on the internets about how she directs the

844
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: two different actors, and that with Christian she would go

845
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: up and be very quiet and whisper in his ear

846
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: and give him little adjustments, and with Jesse she would

847
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: shout out, Jesse, now do it this way. And at

848
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: one point, apparently Christian Bale said to her, I want

849
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: you to yell at me too, like he was feeling

850
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: left out.

851
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: Now one's afraid of Christian Bale.

852
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: Let me tell you this.

853
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Does he not know that tape still exist?

854
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: Here is my story for you. Okay, the day of

855
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: the bear Io at Debris, who I'm assuming you've had

856
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: in this very chair.

857
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: Friend of mine. No, No, I haven't, but we're friends.

858
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: Okay, she's awesome. You should have her. I will Io

859
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: was shadowing Chris Storer because she was set to direct

860
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: an episode of the show and she wasn't in that

861
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: episode because that episode is the flashback of the family dinner,

862
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: and so she's not in it. And so that whole

863
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: week she was shadowing Chris. So she was coming to

864
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: the set watching Chris set cameras watch and watching him

865
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: work with the actors in the rehearsal if there was rehearsal,

866
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: or where he put his camera and what. And you know,

867
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: it was a very crowded little house. And Io and

868
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: I were sitting on the stairwell, the staircase going up,

869
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: talking for like forty five minutes one day, and we

870
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: didn't know each other, and we were getting to know

871
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: each other. And at one point she said, like, what

872
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: do you like? What do you like from a director?

873
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, I hate. I did a show

874
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: called New Girl, and the way they directed that show,

875
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: they would shout at me, okay, now Jamie say this, Okay, Jamie,

876
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: now do this. And I hated it because I felt

877
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: like what I said, I like it if somebody comes

878
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: up and just whispers in my ear, I don't want

879
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 2: my scene partner. You're my scene partner here, I don't

880
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: want you to know what adjustment I'm going to make.

881
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: In the scene. I don't want you to know it

882
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: because I want you to react to what I'm going

883
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: to do differently organically, not oh, she's going to do

884
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: this one with a lot more intensity, whatever, whatever the

885
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: bad direction. And I said to Aole, I like it

886
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: if somebody just whispers in my ear, like simple things

887
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: like faster, slower, hot, or colder. And I said to her,

888
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: I would even love if somebody just set a color

889
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: and nothing else. So I said, I hate if somebody

890
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: yells in front of the crew a direction to me,

891
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: it embarrasses me, it shuts me down. I'd be like,

892
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: I would feel mortified. So we do the dinner table

893
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: scene in the episode of The Bear, and we you know,

894
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: it's a lot of people. These are all these actors

895
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: who I never met, and I'm like, oh my god,

896
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: they're John mulaney and oh there's Sarah Bolson and oh

897
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: my god, there's Bob Owenkirk. And I have these monologues

898
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: and I'm about to like lose my shit. And I

899
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: was like, so, anyway, we did the first take of

900
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: Donna coming in and you know, wreaking havoc at the

901
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: table and shit broke, and shit flew and blah blah blah,

902
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: and then we did it again. So we did two

903
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: takes of it. And after we did the second take,

904
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: I was sitting off by myself and Io walked up

905
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: to me. By the way, Christor didn't say a word

906
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: to me, he would say, okay, now let's do it

907
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: again one more time, please. Reset Io walked up to

908
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: me and whispered in my ear, purple. That's all she

909
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: said to me. She said the word purple. And what

910
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 2: she was saying is, you've done a take red hot.

911
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: You've gone red. The first take I was like, you know,

912
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: an atomic bomb went off. She said this Basically, what

913
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: she was saying is the first take was read. The

914
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: second take was fire, searing hot, yellow flame, orange flame.

915
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: What she said was, you're wounded. All of what's happening

916
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: to Donna in that scene is pain, not anger. Pain.

917
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: The wound is purple, a bruise is purple. And that's

918
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: the take in the show that they used. So for me,

919
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: from a directing standpoint, that's how you talk to me.

920
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: You want something out of me. No one else knew

921
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: what I was, what the adjustment was. She whispered in

922
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: my ear.

923
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: I like that have you ever considered, especially this exact

924
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: point in your life post Oscar.

925
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: And here's here's the thing.

926
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to lead people into thinking that, you know,

927
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: once you get this mantle, clear it off and you

928
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: place your ward there an where's your asker?

929
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: In my office she has a do you promise it's.

930
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: Not in the bathroom or anything.

931
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: I have many story whereas doorstopper.

932
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: There's a googly eye.

933
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: You put it on there? Of course, wait, I think

934
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: you did you not post it?

935
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: Of course there's a Google eye. And they them pin

936
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: that my daughter Ruby had because she's sort of gender

937
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: you know there it's sort of genderless, so it felt

938
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: like it needed to They them, yes, no, no, no,

939
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: there's a Google eye.

940
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 3: Well, my point is that I wanted to know, did

941
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: you ever entertain the thought of crossing the velvet rope

942
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: to the executive side, the director's side.

943
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm a DJA member for a long time. I directed

944
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: the sitcom I did I Was Anything But Anything But Love.

945
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: I was prepared to go off and direct a movie

946
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: that I was going to star in right when COVID hit.

947
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: COVID killed the movie. I was going to direct the

948
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: Truth of the matter is. I am married to a

949
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: film director and I have two daughters. The commitment a

950
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: director has to give to a project, the amount of time,

951
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: is way more than an actor. Now I'm also a producer.

952
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: I produced the movie last year, The Lost Bus, Yes

953
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey and America Ferrar, the true story of the

954
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: Paradise Fire, the story of Kevin McKay and Mary Ludwig,

955
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: who were the school bus driver and school teacher who

956
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: saved the lives of those twenty two children during the

957
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: fire in California. Scarpetta, the TV show that we aren't

958
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: talking about because we don't need to, is a TV

959
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: show that I brought on Amazon. I'm friends with the

960
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: author of the books, Patricia Cornwall. She's written thirty six

961
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: best selling books about a character named Case Scarpetta who's

962
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: a medical examiner, and I I'm friends with her, and

963
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: I brought those books to my partner, Jason Blum, who

964
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: runs Blumhouse, and said, the books are available, no one

965
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: has turned them into a movie or TV show in

966
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: thirty six years. Let's do so. And so I'm producing

967
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: the show Scarpetta, and then I'm only in it because

968
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 2: Nicole Kidman, who signed on to play Scarpetta, signed on saying, well,

969
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: and you're in the show jam right because I'm producing it.

970
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: Of course I'm in the show. And so then it

971
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, squeen, I am going to because you

972
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: want me to be, and so I now play her

973
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: out of control, unhinged man, eater, Cray Cray sister.

974
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: Are both roles hard to no manage it.

975
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: I do it all. I do it all, you know what.

976
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 2: I do everything with love. I love community, I love teams.

977
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: I love the art form. I love collaboration. I love

978
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: that in this job I can't do when anybody else's

979
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: I can't do that job. I need them to do

980
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: their job so I can do my job. I just

981
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: love that it's a it's not a singular art form.

982
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: It's a collaborative art form. And I love it and

983
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: I've loved it. It still turns me on, flips my switch.

984
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: I wake up excited every day of work, every day.

985
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Every day, gratitude is important.

986
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: I wake up vitamin G. Like, first first shot of

987
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: my day is vitamin G gratitude.

988
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I literally it was like, wait, that's the

989
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: one I don't take out.

990
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but guess what I think you do?

991
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 3: Oh, I have to I have to question how intimidating

992
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: was it to enter the well oiled machine of Monty

993
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 3: Python when you did Wanda, Yeah, you know it wasn't.

994
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: I assumed that John Clees was calling because I was

995
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: married to Christopher Guest. I had just gotten married to

996
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: Christopher Guest. Yeah, who in that circle in America was

997
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: that level of appreciation for cometic ability was the sort

998
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: of commensurate you know what I mean, Like people loved

999
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: spinal tap to the degree as you know that. I mean,

1000
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: it's mental how much people love Chris and the work

1001
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: he doesn't know, the movie people right, and then the

1002
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: movies he made, you know, and he's a really singular talent.

1003
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: So I assumed that John Clees wanted to talk to

1004
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: Christopher Guest and kind of using me as the portal.

1005
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: I did not know he was going to ask me

1006
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 2: to be in this thing. And the truth is.

1007
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: Did he think about osmosis effect that you two would

1008
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: be as silly and innovative with your humor?

1009
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what he thought. I had

1010
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: a newborn, I had a six month old. I was

1011
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: going to London to make this weird little movie with

1012
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: a six month old and my husband to move to

1013
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: London for a few months. It was challenging. I'm a mom,

1014
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 2: so all of the work I do, the first thing

1015
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 2: I think about is how complic hated my personal life

1016
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: was because of childhood. I'm not just an actor for

1017
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: hire where I can just go wherever, and I have

1018
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: no ties that bind I'm bound fully and so to

1019
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: take to be an actor, I have to extricate every

1020
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: day from I have a dog. I don't like leaving

1021
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: my dog.

1022
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: Is there an understanding with the director and the production

1023
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: that you have a boundary as far as time is concerned.

1024
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: Well, to some degree, But I mean at the same time,

1025
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: it's a bitch of a job in that way. I

1026
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: mean it's it's a time consuming job, and as you know,

1027
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: movies and television and stuff, it takes time. The good

1028
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: news is for most people, most people work all their

1029
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: lives movies and television. There are short lived, little sections

1030
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: of time and you commit a lot. But there's just

1031
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: a lot of extricating and a lot of tie breaking,

1032
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: and that's hard for me. That's been hard for me

1033
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: since I had children, and it's hard for me. When

1034
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: I leave my house with my dog, I pack when

1035
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: my dog is on his walk, I hide the.

1036
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: Suitcases because he knows you're leaving.

1037
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: If he saw the suitcases, he would know I'm leaving.

1038
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: And then now, but I hide the suitcases. Then I

1039
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: don't let him see me leaving the house, so he

1040
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: just thinks when I say I'll be right back, he

1041
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: doesn't know I'm going to be gone for a week.

1042
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: And what I'm trying to do is what I've learned

1043
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: from dog trainers, is if when you walk back in

1044
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: the house after being gone a week, and you just go, oh, hey, Rooney,

1045
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: how are you, what's up? And talk to people as

1046
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: if you haven't been gone, your leavings start to not

1047
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: affect them so much. The problem is we when we're

1048
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: gone and they and we open the door, we're like

1049
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: and that then ramps them up, and that gives them

1050
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: the idea that you've been gone. So I'm yes, so

1051
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: extricating from Pet's husband's children.

1052
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: And this is what I learned, like, this is you

1053
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: returning it me with dust off your mantle. You taught

1054
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: me a valuable lesson When I tell you, patience is key,

1055
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: it's helping me grow more.

1056
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: I realized that animals are about.

1057
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I'm gonna tell you. Yes, this is

1058
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: your girlfriend's dog.

1059
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yes.

1060
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: Wait till you get a dog that's yours. See it's different.

1061
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: It's your girlfriend's dog. You're not her person. But wait

1062
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: till you get a dog of your own.

1063
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm at I'm a cat person.

1064
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: Wait till you get a cat.

1065
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: No, I've had cats.

1066
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: That connection, that idea. Come on, it's the most delicious,

1067
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: it's so sweet, it's it's going to be good.

1068
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: It's working on me. Wow. I can't believe this is

1069
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: where you let me to. Yeah, Jamie, I appreciate you.

1070
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm very happy to i'm's and podcast. And by the way,

1071
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: let me say this, Yes, I think you are way

1072
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: more than maybe even you think you are. And I

1073
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: think you're going to expand into the narrative form in

1074
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: a beautiful way, and you will figure out what people

1075
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: want and need from you because you can go to

1076
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: them and say, what do you want to need from

1077
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: me here? Do you want a lot of feedback? Do

1078
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: you want a little feedback? Do you want loud feedback?

1079
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 2: Do you like soft feedback? It's like a lover. It's

1080
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: like it's in a way, it's very much saying it's

1081
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: an intimate thing we're doing. And even though we're not

1082
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: talking about sex per se, there is a sex.

1083
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: There's intimacy there.

1084
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: There is a big intimacy. And so it's really just

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Speaker 2: do you like it when I do this? Do you

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Speaker 2: want me to do this? More? Like? Do this less?

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Speaker 2: How about this? And I think you will find your

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Speaker 2: voice as a director that.

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Speaker 1: Way I have.

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Speaker 3: I think the fear that I hold with it is

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Speaker 3: that I've heard, well one you know, the aforementioned Christian

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Speaker 3: Bale yelling tape still on the internet. There's a story

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Speaker 3: that Frank Oz tells about the difficulties of directing Marlon Brando,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the abuse that he had to take

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Speaker 3: from Marlon Brando to the point where Robert de Niro

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Speaker 3: was sort of like the go between, like they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: talk to each other and whatever.

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Speaker 1: And I think that also ties into in the music world.

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Speaker 1: I do not like cutting vocals.

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Speaker 3: I love creating the music, I love engineering, I love

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Speaker 3: every aspect of production and songwriting. But I do not

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Speaker 3: have the patience to sit there and coach something out

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Speaker 3: of you. Now now that I'm in the place where

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Speaker 3: I am and the roots happened to be working on

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Speaker 3: our album right now.

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Speaker 1: I just started giving notes for the first time to

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Speaker 1: let my partner.

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Speaker 3: Trek in thirty four years of this group professionally, forty

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Speaker 3: years as just a high school friend, Like, this is

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Speaker 3: the first time where I'm giving him notes.

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Speaker 1: Previously I can hide behind and yeah. The first time,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that wasn't bad. I think in

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Speaker 1: my mind, I'm like, you know, could you do it again?

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Speaker 1: Or I don't like this verse? Or how'd you feel

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Speaker 1: he took direction well, and I was shocked.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, so maybe he's been waiting for

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Speaker 2: you to give him some.

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Speaker 1: I found this out recently, so my work is done here.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis, thank you very.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Uh, this is the first I'm not asking you know.

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Speaker 2: What I'm I'm If you had asked me a bunch

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Speaker 2: of like pre planned questions, I would have been all right, now, this.

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