WEBVTT - Wheels up, on to LA

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, and welcome to the Phillies Show. It is Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>August fifth. I am Jim Salisbury, joined by Reuben Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're coming at you this morning without our fearless

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<v Speaker 2>leader and kind of the backbone of this whole show,

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<v Speaker 2>the brains of the operation. Todd Zeleki is having a

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<v Speaker 2>tough travel day on the West Coast as he heads

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<v Speaker 2>from Seattle down to LA, the next stop for the Phillies. Ruben,

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<v Speaker 2>it appears you though flying first class charters with the

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<v Speaker 2>team and not commercial. Appears you have made it to LA.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do I find you this fine morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We did have a little bit of a travel issue also,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually we almost could not get here until super late,

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<v Speaker 1>but they fixed that a little mechanical action. But believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, I'm at the Beverly Hills four Seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where they filmed Pretty Woman, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite all time movies. And yeah, in fact, they filled

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<v Speaker 1>it all of it in here, I think, I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe so. My man Greg Murphy informed me of that

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday when we strolled in and we were waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>our keys to roll into our rooms. But it's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful hotel and I'm going to try to scout around

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in Beverly Hills here. Got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of friends here that I'm going to see at an

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<v Speaker 1>old high school buddy who's a big time agent, and

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<v Speaker 1>hang out a little bit. But I'm also going to

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<v Speaker 1>later on. I'm going to and as you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Philly Show is part of the Foul Territory Network. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to scoot on with them a little bit later

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<v Speaker 1>on this morning to talk to the boys about this

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming Los Angeles Dodgers series with the Phillies. But excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be back on the on the West Coast. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been here too many times as of late, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be an exciting series. Ship.

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<v Speaker 2>So that hotel, pretty Woman, I can still see those

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<v Speaker 2>scenes where she comes downstairs and she needs to buy

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<v Speaker 2>a dress and Hector Alisondo, one of my favorite character actors,

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<v Speaker 2>Hector Alexando sends her over to that boutique and then

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<v Speaker 2>they were mean to her. She comes back, he sends

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<v Speaker 2>her over to another store and and they they hook

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<v Speaker 2>her up with some uh some gear. But Hector Alexander

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<v Speaker 2>was in one of my all time favorite movies from

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties, The Flamingo Kid. Check it out. Yeah no,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that movie. Yeah oh yeah, yeah, right, that

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<v Speaker 2>of age movie. And I always really liked his work. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty cool. You're in in that hotel lounge when

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<v Speaker 2>her and Richard Gear meet up before jumping on the

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<v Speaker 2>airplane to go to the opera. That's the lifestyle you live,

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<v Speaker 2>jumping on private planes going to operas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, really really now, I've been on a been

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<v Speaker 1>on a private playing two times in my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a rumor out there that I had my

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<v Speaker 1>own private play one time. I think they threw that

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<v Speaker 1>out there on on WIP. One time. I'm like, come on, please.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been on a private playing.

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<v Speaker 1>The dms don't do that well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on a private plane once, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you may know the story, but I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>reveal the story right now, but it's an awfully good one.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll save that for another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It has powder, save the powder gym.

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<v Speaker 2>Save that power to keep it dry, like for the

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<v Speaker 2>trade deadline. Anyway, You're coming out of Seattle, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I've seen a team in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed a victory more than the Phillies. They got

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<v Speaker 2>one yesterday. What was it a six game losing skid

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<v Speaker 2>they snapped.

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah it was? Yeah, what sure was? And they

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<v Speaker 1>would really struggle. And I mean, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teams that have had a lot of success. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on the air about some other teams,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, eight, nine, ten, and eleven. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>some teams like in ninety three, we had a long

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<v Speaker 1>time droughts. But they bounced back and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a huge win for them yesterday. And the

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<v Speaker 1>man that stepped forward was Zach Wheeler. Man you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about being an ace and a stopper. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>performed in exactly the way they needed. They had blown

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<v Speaker 1>up there their bullpen quite a bit in the first

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<v Speaker 1>two games. Disastrous loss in the second game after being

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<v Speaker 1>up several runs. That was a tough ball game to lose,

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<v Speaker 1>but they showed some resilience and bounced back and won

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<v Speaker 1>a really huge game on Sunday before traveling here to

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<v Speaker 1>La Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we talked about that on Friday, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>off the cuff. We said something to the effect that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're not going to see each other till Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Wheeler pitching on Sunday, coming off with difficult outing

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<v Speaker 2>against the Yankees. Team's not going so well, and we

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<v Speaker 2>thought that he might be loaded for bear on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>and he certainly was. Eight innings, shutout, I think eight strikeouts,

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<v Speaker 2>nine strike outs.

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<v Speaker 1>One, nine strikeouts, one walk, just two hits. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was dominant. An amazing catch and let catch in

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<v Speaker 1>center field by Brandon marsh ball kind of caught him.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was also a great day to watch mister

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<v Speaker 1>Harper bust out because he did too, and he did

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<v Speaker 1>so in a huge way. Got a double the day

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<v Speaker 1>before in the left center. But he's hitting some milestones

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<v Speaker 1>that are just pretty amazing. Totally three thousand total bases.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the things that he's doing are are amazing

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<v Speaker 1>in his career. But for him to bust out that

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<v Speaker 1>was huge, huge home run, a couple of bullets to

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<v Speaker 1>right field. You know, Schoreber started things off with a

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<v Speaker 1>bang with a bullet home run off of Logan Gilbert,

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<v Speaker 1>who is outstanding. This guy can pitch man. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a great day and then we got they finally

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<v Speaker 1>grinded him down, got to the bullpen and and they

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<v Speaker 1>did some did some damage to the bullpen there at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. But uh, but it was a big win

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<v Speaker 1>for them, and and I think just more than anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>great for their psyche.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt you mentioned the psyche. The mind can lead

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<v Speaker 2>the body often in this game, in sports, in life.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's an old ancient Buddhist saying to that effect,

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<v Speaker 2>if someone wants to put it in the comments, But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the mind can lead the body. And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing what a getaway win can do for a struggling

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<v Speaker 2>team as it gets on the airplane. I look, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a tough, tough road here we we we we

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<v Speaker 2>all still believe in this club. It's a good club.

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<v Speaker 2>They got track record. They didn't do what they did

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<v Speaker 2>the first three months or whatever by by mirrors and

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<v Speaker 2>with a mirage. But there's no doubt they've had a

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<v Speaker 2>tough stretch and I don't Obviously, one game doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you're out of it. They need to build on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I look at that catch by marsh and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the offense, but while the catch

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<v Speaker 2>is still on my mind, it kind of reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>of moments I've seen throughout covering baseball for many years,

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, you'll get to the end of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>especially a successful season, playoff type season, and you'll write

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<v Speaker 2>about as a writer, you'll write about the moments that mattered,

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<v Speaker 2>the motive, moments that maybe right of the ship turned

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<v Speaker 2>it around, and that if they build on yesterday's win

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<v Speaker 2>and right the ship and get it pointed in the

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<v Speaker 2>right direction toward over the final two months, toward October,

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<v Speaker 2>we might be sitting down and you might be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how symbolically you know, that moment meant something in

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<v Speaker 2>the turnaround. Now, Harper's three hits, the offense coming alive

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<v Speaker 2>late obviously is going to mean more. But sometimes symbols

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<v Speaker 2>mean something to me. And it just almost was like

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<v Speaker 2>that catch. That ball dropped from the heavens and landed

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<v Speaker 2>in Marsh's glove, and it kind of gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like, Wow, maybe everything's gonna be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Well, that's a really good point

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<v Speaker 1>because it was still in a pretty critical part of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I think it was a one nothing game

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<v Speaker 1>at the time still, and they were hooked up, Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>and Wheeler were hooked up in a very very tight battle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it may in a lot of ways. You

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<v Speaker 1>may be right, Jim, because everything up until that point,

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<v Speaker 1>for like the last i don't know, three weeks, four weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the whatever you want to call it, it was

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<v Speaker 1>almost like Murphy's law. Things were like going wrong. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>that could go wrong was kind of going wrong, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the one moment where things actually went

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<v Speaker 1>right and they got a break, so to speak. So

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<v Speaker 1>it may have been one of those things. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and we talk about it a lot in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, sometimes you got to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more lucky than good. And I mean you have

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<v Speaker 1>to obviously be a good team, but sometimes it is

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<v Speaker 1>better to be lucky and good. And I think you

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<v Speaker 1>create that mojo with with your attitude in the clubhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>And they did really stay very steady. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talks with obviously spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>with with UH, with Topper during the course of this UH,

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<v Speaker 1>you know struggle, and you know, they keep the brave face.

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<v Speaker 1>Many the Clubhouse is not super down. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they're frustrated, but I think that they still believe in

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and and UH and just the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>do and they're not down on themselves. They know they're

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<v Speaker 1>a good ball club. They know they're a better ball

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<v Speaker 1>club than they've shown in the last you know, two months.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're probably not as good a ball club as

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<v Speaker 1>they showed in the first two months, and so they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably somewhere in between. But they're really a great ball club.

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<v Speaker 1>I as far as Town is concerned, it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter whether they can you know, finish it off and

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<v Speaker 1>play good, solid baseball for the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like that old saying. You never as good

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<v Speaker 2>as you are when you're at the top of the mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>You never as bad as you are when you're at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the bottom of the mountain. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>and that's baseball over one sixty two. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>can toss away the peaks and toss away the extreme valleys,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you're gonna find yourself somewhere in that

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<v Speaker 2>middle ground. And one, obviously, the offense has been a frustration,

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<v Speaker 2>a concern, you know, watching that series first two games

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<v Speaker 2>that they were if you can locate a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>high fastball like that much, you know, half an inch

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<v Speaker 2>above the letters against this team, and it's a power fastball.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have a lot of success because they have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time laying off that, and anybody has a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time hitting that if you missed your spot with

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<v Speaker 2>that same pitch Bryce and Stott yesterday, Boom, that fastball

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<v Speaker 2>came down a little bit and he found it, he

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<v Speaker 2>jumped it. It was a really good thing to see.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you see from the offense the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the Yankee series first two games in Seattle as compared

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<v Speaker 2>to yesterday, Was it in a in a wake in

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<v Speaker 2>your mind? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of things. I mean, obviously Harper's

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<v Speaker 1>success is pretty important, and and and the guy at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the lineup, Schoreber, is an important one

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean, you start thinking about your ball

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<v Speaker 1>club and the guys that get the bulk of the advats.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about Schwarber, Turner and Harper, and those three

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<v Speaker 1>guys are really the most important parts of this offense

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<v Speaker 1>if they can get things rolling more consistently. What I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing right now out of Turner, who's probably struggling the most,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Harper was, you know, oh for whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>to me, even though Turner was getting some is getting

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<v Speaker 1>some hits he's not impacting the ball nearly the same.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sort of cutting across the ball. He's not staying

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<v Speaker 1>through it more as consistently and flat with his swing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not using the other side of the plate, the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the field, and they're throwing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of breaking balls. He's chasing for strikeouts. And he's a

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<v Speaker 1>really important part of this offense. Now, don't forget man.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on fire. He was a at m v

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<v Speaker 1>P type numbers when he was playing and healthy, and

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's he is a critical part of this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's been smothering a lot of pitches to third

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<v Speaker 1>base and topping them, and it's almost like he's not

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<v Speaker 1>staying as flat and through the middle as he has

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. The one thing that I have seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that the that the that the lineup

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<v Speaker 1>is can be exploitable because I think you can go

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<v Speaker 1>soft early on them and make them swing at pitches

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<v Speaker 1>that are out of the strike zone and then force

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the guys to swing at pitches up

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<v Speaker 1>out of the zone as you as you talked about Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really about pate plate discipline. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>get him and This is what happens when you get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, frustrated, and you're not swinging the bat, well,

0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to swing your way out of it. So

0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you're swinging at pitches that are outside the strike zone

0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're and you're sort of guessing and just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to guess with pitchers. And I think more than anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>they just need to stay. If these guys just stay

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<v Speaker 1>through the middle of the field and have the mindset Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna stay through the middle of the field

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<v Speaker 1>and get a strike to hit, I think they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more success. Now. It's it's hard when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the plate and you're struggling. Man, I've been there,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done it. I mean, you just your your body

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<v Speaker 1>just does different things because your mind's not settled and relaxed,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're doing different things physically that you would

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<v Speaker 1>not typically do when you're going well. When you're going well,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even think about it. You just see the

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and you hit it. And uh. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>when when you're struggling and they were struggling collectively, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen like a whole like nine guys go down

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, though, It's kind of bizarre that

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<v Speaker 1>that very very rarely happens, but it was happening for

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<v Speaker 1>the Phillies. One of the really bright spots I feel

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<v Speaker 1>is Brandon Marshak. He's got these four for his last

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<v Speaker 1>four against left handed pitchers. That's huge because if if

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<v Speaker 1>they feel I think he's, they're comfortable with Brandon marsh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hitting deep in the lineup, you know, eating

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<v Speaker 1>in a seven, eight or nine hole against left handers,

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<v Speaker 1>and he can flip the lineup over with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of base hits. That I think makes them sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a much better team overall, because you know, Johann Rojas

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<v Speaker 1>really has not done much offensively, and he's I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna end up at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>That allows them to like let him play the role

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<v Speaker 1>of what Pasche did, which was like basically come in

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<v Speaker 1>for defense or maybe against a tough left hander and

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<v Speaker 1>and provide a little bit more speed off the bench

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<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing. But I like the development

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<v Speaker 1>of what's going on with marsh a little bit there. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got to get Harper going, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>he did yesterday. But Turner's the guy, like to me,

0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Turner's the guy and uh and if he can start uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting getting warmer and start hitting the ball

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<v Speaker 1>more consistently through the middle of the field and flatten

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<v Speaker 1>out that swing a little bit, I think that they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>We always talk about a million times over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>what can happen to a team when you get multiples

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<v Speaker 2>of your big guns swinging it well, multiples of your

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<v Speaker 2>big producers hot. Conversely, you can really go in the

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<v Speaker 2>tank when multiples your big guns are cold. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what we saw. And I do agree. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this whole line up takes a lot of cues

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<v Speaker 2>from Trey Turner. He's essential, He's he's vital. Kyle Schwarmer vital.

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<v Speaker 2>They might take all, you know, the most the bulk

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<v Speaker 2>of their cues from a guy like from Harper, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was good to see him. It almost looks like

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<v Speaker 2>he slowed things down a little bit yesterday, at least

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<v Speaker 2>on a couple of those hits, especially one maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>seventh inning before the home run. He kind of smoothed

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<v Speaker 2>it out there. You talk about staying in the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>and it looked like it looked like a less is

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<v Speaker 2>more swing. You did you sense he slowed things down

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, He's always gonna be He's always trying to impact

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. He's a very hard swinger and he's always

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<v Speaker 1>been like that. That's that's never going to change. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was obviously a little extra hard with his swing

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<v Speaker 1>over the last you know, I don't know, maybe ten

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen games. And so I think you're right. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he just I think he's probably relaxed a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more. I think the fact that he got that

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<v Speaker 1>double yet two days ago to the left center field

0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that sort of got him going. Anytime. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like Bobby A Brain, you know, Bobby A.

0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Brady would go in like over eight or over ten

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden he'd sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>then flip one of the left field and all of

0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, oh he's back. As timing's back. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>can use the middle of the field. Now, now here he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that's the same sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>different type of hitter, but the same sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>for Harper. And you know, I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I think that they want him to try

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and it's it's tough when he ear in

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<v Speaker 1>the box. I want him to try to not swing

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<v Speaker 1>as hard. But that you know, that's a really tough thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it, like when you're slumping and you're strung, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you you want to try to impact the

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<v Speaker 1>baseball in any way, shape or form. And he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never one of those guys he's going to back off,

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<v Speaker 1>like when he gets on the golf course. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if he plays golf. He's not backing off

0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:17.000
<v Speaker 1>his swing man, He's whacking it and so uh. But

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<v Speaker 1>but I did feel like he had a little less

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<v Speaker 1>effort in that swing than he has had over you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the prior maybe eight or ten or twelve games or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was I mentioned Scott, it was good to see him

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<v Speaker 2>hit an important home run with a nice swing. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like it was a no strider, really simple,

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<v Speaker 2>bad head to the ball. Strong kid. He can he

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<v Speaker 2>can he can make that point. He can move that ball,

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<v Speaker 2>as Charlie would say, without being violent, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of movement in his head and his body. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what he did. Kind of no stride boom. What what

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<v Speaker 2>means to this team to get him gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it'll be huge. I mean, this guy can really

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a good eye, such a good sense of

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<v Speaker 1>the strike zone. And I do think that he's been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to impact the ball like way too much. I

0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.359
<v Speaker 1>see him going down on a knee at times. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, he really concentrated on getting his top hand

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<v Speaker 1>down to the ball. This year I see him sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, working underneath the baseball a lot more, trying

0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to impact the ball in the air, trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>back all those hits in one swing. But when he

0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.879
<v Speaker 1>stays short to the ball, and he can use that

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<v Speaker 1>top hand to drive, especially on the high pitch, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where they're trying to get him out, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>been real vulnerable. He's found them off for flying, you know,

0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.600
<v Speaker 1>popping them up. When he's staying on top of it,

0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.399
<v Speaker 1>he can line it to left. He can drive the

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<v Speaker 1>ball out of the ballpark. He is a bigger kid

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<v Speaker 1>than you think. I mean, he's you know, six two,

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.200
<v Speaker 1>he's not a small kid, sixty one six two, and

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<v Speaker 1>he can impact the baseball. He does, and he's got

0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the leverage to do it. He doesn't need to try

0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to drive the ball. He just needs to get his

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<v Speaker 1>hands going and stay on top of the ball a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more consistently, and I think that all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll have more success. He's been a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a disappointment overall, just because you felt like

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.840
<v Speaker 1>he was going to really progress this year. But if

0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.920
<v Speaker 1>he gets going at the back half of this season,

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<v Speaker 1>which he can, I believe that in my heart of hearts,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes this lineup way deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>And JT's another guy. Real Mudo scuffled since the knee injury,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, sometimes it takes a little time when

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<v Speaker 2>when you've been down. We've seen him go through these

0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.480
<v Speaker 2>spells before, but we've also seen him turning on. So

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<v Speaker 2>are you thinking he's getting a little closer from what

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>He hit the ball to right center field for a

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<v Speaker 1>double yesterday and that's big. That was typical sort of

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a fastball in and he stayed through

0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit like Castanos has done. And obviously

0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Alec Bohm, who does that as good as anybody on

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the ball club, where he can you know, he can

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.119
<v Speaker 1>impact the ball to the middle of the field, but

0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to necessarily be even if it's a fastball inside,

0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they stay inside it well enough to drive it to

0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the opposite field him. Again, that's a little bit like

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<v Speaker 1>patent it. When JT's going well, he does that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My theory on that is that when none of these

0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 1>guys do rehab assignments anymore, And I really think that

0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that's and again, there's not that many guys that can

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<v Speaker 1>get out of bed like John Kruck could walk get

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.720
<v Speaker 1>out of bed and put a bullet, put a barrel

0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.240
<v Speaker 1>on a bullet. There's not a lot of dudes like

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Carlos by Erica could do that. I mean guys that

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.439
<v Speaker 1>I played with where you can literally he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up a baseball bat forever and he could

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.879
<v Speaker 1>just somehow barrel it up. And I don't know that

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.119
<v Speaker 1>there's that many guys who can do that. And since

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<v Speaker 1>in this day and age, guys really opt, guys who

0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.880
<v Speaker 1>have enough service time really can opt not to go

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<v Speaker 1>to rehab assignments, I don't know if that's the greatest

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.200
<v Speaker 1>thing in the world. Now they can try to simulate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they have different machines that can utilize and

0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, velocity machines and breaking ball machines and all

0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.439
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But it's not the same, man, it's not

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the same. And and and I think it's one of

0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the reasons that you don't see guys. Some guys can

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>do it, but you don't see a ton of guys

0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>just come hop back and just be able to rake.

0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 1>You got to get your sort of your sea legs

0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.679
<v Speaker 1>underneath you. You have to get your timing, you have

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.159
<v Speaker 1>to see the arm swing, you have to you know,

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.720
<v Speaker 1>get your timing load and all that stuff. And you

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.200
<v Speaker 1>don't really do that. I mean, you could create simulated games,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think they're gonna do the Dodgers are going

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<v Speaker 1>to do for a whole slew of guys that they're

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.919
<v Speaker 1>that are coming off the d L or I L

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:37.880
<v Speaker 1>right now here in a few days. But but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel like if you're not actually facing live

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>pitching in a game, I don't know. I just like

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see guys at least go out there

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and get you know, two or three you know, games

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>of at bats before coming off the i L. But

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a different world out there now, man. You know, guys, uh,

0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:58.680
<v Speaker 1>guys are more reluctant to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, put your GM had on. It's twenty twenty five.

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 2>It's next year and you're running a ball club that

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 2>had guys come off the AL and scuffled coming off

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the al. Do you try to I mean, you can't

0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:19.400
<v Speaker 2>really demand it, but you can strongly recommend it. How

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 2>do you try to persuade guys that this is the

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<v Speaker 2>best thing for you and the team that you need

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<v Speaker 2>to We tried this last year. It really didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, would you have individual conversations with the player,

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<v Speaker 2>with the agent? How would you attack that if you

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<v Speaker 2>and your heart felt that a rehab assignment was really

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing, and you thought you had a reluctant camper.

0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes, I would talk to everybody about it.

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I would talk to the agent, I would talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the player, I would talk to our people about it,

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and I would talk I think it's so important for

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the player to have his heart beat in it, because

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>if you sort of have to make it his idea, like, hey, yeah,

0:22:58.040 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe it is better for me to do it. You know.

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like when you're coaching. When I was a coach,

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you wanted to build a relationship with the guy,

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and you talk about certain things that you may want

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:12.920
<v Speaker 1>to tinker with or change, and you would ask, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is there an area that you would like to improve?

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<v Speaker 1>And if they give you that in you know you

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you can sort of make it their idea that hey,

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe this is something I can work on.

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.919
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's important because if the guy's heart's

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>not in it and he goes and takes rehab assignments

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>in Reading or in Lehigh Valley and he's just there

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>going like what the hell am I doing here? I

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to end up being more detrimental. But

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.919
<v Speaker 1>the guy really believes it will help him, and you

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>can convince him to do or he can convince himself

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that it's the right thing to do. I think that's

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the way to sort of approach it.

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a believer in them. I've seen them for years,

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 2>and I mean it wasn't long ago when everybody was

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:53.440
<v Speaker 2>doing I remember Bryce Harper.

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Did one, Yes he did, Yes he did.

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I remember driving up to Lakewood to cover Ryan Howard

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:02.199
<v Speaker 2>doing a few rehab games. Chase Suttley did some in

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Lehigh Valley, Roy Halliday did a couple out in Lakewood.

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>So you know, Adro Martinez pitched us to several games.

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Loraula Banye has went out did a rehab a few

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>times when he had that sports tourney or whatever. I mean, listen,

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like getting the atmosphere and now and

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the facilities in the minor leagues now are like really good,

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Like the lighting's much better. They've really done a lot

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>of different things to me. And I know there's a danger,

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get hit by a pitch or something

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>can happen, but that could happen at any time. I

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it's happened stepping, you know, walking off a sidewalk.

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I think. So I just feel like there's I think

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that the facilities and the way it's set up, I

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 1>think it. And it also causes him a spread of corps.

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean when a big time player comes down and

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>plays in Reading or Lei Valley, he gets a big

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>spread he you know, he gets to hang out with

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 1>some of the minor league players. They get to you know,

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a cool thing. And I still think

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it's and but more importantly, I do think it's important

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>for guys to just get that feel of being in

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a competitive, real competitive atmosphere, especially if it's been like

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a long eyel like if it's been a month or

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a month and a half, it's it's it's different, man,

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>it's different. It's almost like going through spring training again

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>for me.

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 2>And you got somebody on the other other on the

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:26.199
<v Speaker 2>mound facing you pitching, and you know they're trying to

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 2>get you out. Yeah, and you know when you're underneath

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 2>against the high velo machine. Yes, it's a challenge, but

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 2>you know there's not a heartbeat that's trying to get

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you out and trying to in your face. And that competitiveness,

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>even for two or three games, I think can be good.

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 2>But we're belaboring that. We both agree that we hate

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>to see the demise of the rehab assignment. I want

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 2>to look a little bit ahead. Maybe the Phillies can build.

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 2>On Sunday, they move on to Dodger Stadium, one of

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>my favorite play this is, I'm sure one of your

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 2>favorite places on Monday night. Phillies are sixty six and

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 2>forty five, still the best record in the National League,

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 2>in spite of what they've had to go through the

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 2>last really the last inconsistency the last five to six weeks,

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>but recently a real tough stretch. So Phillies sixty six

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 2>forty five, Dodgers' second best record in the National League

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 2>at sixty five and forty seven, only a game and

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 2>a half behind the Phillies for best record in the

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:32.719
<v Speaker 2>National League. It's important for home field seeding in the playoffs.

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Phillies have already swept the Dodgers a month ago at

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>citizens Bank Park. It was sort of one of the

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 2>high points of this Philly season. The Philly sweep la

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 2>over here at citizens Bank Park early in June and

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 2>they go twenty nine games over five hundred that's in

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 2>that sweep. Since then, though, Phillies are five and thirteen,

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 2>five and thirteen since that sweep of the Dodgers. So

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 2>we'll see if they can really build on this night.

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Terrific pitching matchup, a couple of guys who can strike

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 2>out a lot of a lot of hitters, Aaron Nola

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and Tyler Glass. Now Game two of the series Christopher

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Sanchez and Clayton Kershaw, and then Game three of the

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 2>series on Wednesday, Tyler Phillips against TBA. I'm sorry that so,

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Phillies. I think it's a great move

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that they you know that they can have Aaron Nola

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>starting this series because he's an awfully good one. Glass

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 2>now is awfully good. But to me, it's really important

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>that you try to build on Sunday and you know,

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>start a little winning streak here. And Nola is a

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 2>good guy to have going. I gotta think Harper Schwarber

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Stott all being a better frame of mind after a

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty good showing at the plate on Sunday. You you

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 2>thinking they can carry or build some momentum here going

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>to Dodgers Dadium coming off Seattle on Sunday.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I think they can. I think obviously again in that win,

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a big win that and was really it

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.959
<v Speaker 1>starts with the starting pitching. We talk about that all

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the time. Hopefully a Nola can keep things close. You know,

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers are banged up. They've got a lot of

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>guys on the I L fad think Freddy Freeman might

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>be back after the illness with his with his son.

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the things, thank God and thank goodness for

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>his family that that Maximus is okay. Shout out to

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.239
<v Speaker 1>his family, uh that they're they're okay. Freddie Freeman, I

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>know he's been an enemy of ours, but one of

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>my favorite all time players in baseball and people. They're

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 1>really happy they I'm really happy for him. They don't

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 1>have Mookie Best, they don't have Muncie, Chris Taylor is

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>not not around. They're banged up a little bit. They're

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>starting pitching. They don't have Yamamoto. They did pick up

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>clarity he's not gonna be pitching in this in this series.

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>But Glass now, I mean, he's got filthy stuff and

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and he stayed healthy so far. He's had trouble doing that.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>They signed into a big contract and it was one

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why why they went on. They wanted

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to create some more pitching depth. But you know, they

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>they're facing basically guys not that dissimilar from what they

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>faced yet last night and logan yesterday in logan, Yeah,

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>these guys big, long, lanky guys with big arms and

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>big fastballs and nasty breaking stuff. And so at least

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>they've seen this type of guy here recently. They didn't

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>do a ton of damage against him, but hopefully, hopefully

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>they can and and sort of build on that. And you.

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Got Otani over there, he's yeah, he's one of those guys.

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>To me, you know, I mean, I'm sitting on my couch,

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>so it's easy to be a fan. I would think

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the other dougout, you got to kick yourself

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I gotta try to beat this guy,

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and not just kind of like go, wow, is he good?

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>But he is really good. He's He's at thirty three

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 2>home runs and thirty plus stolen bases, leading the National

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>League rubin in runs, home runs, batting average, on base

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>slugging ops, total bases.

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, he might be the m v P right now,

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>no doubt, no, no.

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Primary DH has ever won the m v P. You

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>are you okay with that? If a DH wins the

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>m v P.

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Typically, I mean my old school thought process would be no.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>But the way he's swinging the bat and what he's done,

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, if they didn't have him in their lineup,

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they'd be done. I mean they literally they value Yeah,

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>they literally would be done. There's no way that they

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>are where they are without him and at being most

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Valuable Player. I think that means a lot to this team. Uh,

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>this Dodgers team. I mean I can't imagine that they

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>would be in first place without his impact in the

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>top part of this lineup, especially having Mookie bets who's

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>an m VP candidate almost every year down and others

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>down in their lineup, like Munsey and others. But yeah,

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I typically would say no, but he's he's as unicorn

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>as a gets man. I mean, this guy, I actually

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>he had talked about this a lot in the past.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I think this guy should just be all like a

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>full time player. Let him play right field, let him

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>play left field. He's an athletic guy. Obviously, he can run,

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>he can play the outfield and maybe d HM from

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>time to time. I know he probably wants to pitch

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>because he wants to be the ultimate unicorn. But I

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>would just let him go roam out there, out in

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the outfield and just rake and be, you know, an

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>MVP candidate because he'd probably be a goal glove type outfielder.

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>And so I mean that he's that athletic that said,

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Phillies handled him pretty darn well in

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the last time they faced him, and he did not

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>do a whole lot of damage. And I'm not sure

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>if they can do that again, but if they can,

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that will go a long long way to try to

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>take two out of three from these guys at least.

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you talk about that MVP award. The middle name

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>is value. And you know, where would a good team

0:31:56.000 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 2>be without player X? To me? And if that really

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>good team, and if that team is a really good

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 2>team like the Dodgers, where would they be without O Tommy?

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't be the Dodgers nearly where they are. They

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have a chance to have the best record in

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the National League with a good series against the Phillies.

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Phillies don't want that to happen. They have

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>to prevent it from happening. It's going to be a

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 2>fun series. It's an important series for some October implications,

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>home field and whatnot. It's also important for the Phillies

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>to build on that last day in Seattle. One win

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>does not a slump break in my opinion, I need two,

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you need three. You need to build on it. You

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>need to get back to kind of what you were here,

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>show some consistency. So hopefully they'll do that. When is

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Dodger Stadium ranked for you, Reuben on your list of favorites?

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's up there. I've had some decent memories there.

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually had a game winning home run against one

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>of their set up guys years ago in the year

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>ninety six when I actually had a pretty good pinch

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>hitting year that year and didn't get a lot of

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>hits in Dodger Stadium, but that was a big one

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>for me. Uh, it's just a nic. It's an iconic place.

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>It ranks up there in the top three or four

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>for me. I love the Seattle's Ballpark. That's really really cool.

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful obviously a beautiful setting, especially when when it's open.

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>We had great weather there. We're gonna have great weather here,

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I believe as well. It's gonna be a little warm

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>for l A, but we'll take it. And uh, I

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>really like San Francisco. I guess it's Oracle Park. I

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>love Citizens Bank Park and PNC Park. Those two ballparks

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>are probably I mean, and then Camden Yards. I mean

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>it's still has held it. I mean, it's been the first,

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it was the first retro one and it still might

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>be the best one. And so those those are probably

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the best ones. Obviously, Wrigley and and and Fenway have

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>their own feel to it and they're cool ballparks as well.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>But Dodger Stadium manders pretty darn iconic.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely love Dodger Stadium. I love the way it

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>sits on the bottom of that canyon, and when you

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>drive in, you kind of go up these terraces in

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>the side of a hill, and you actually enter high

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 2>above the ballpark at the upper deck, and you have

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 2>to take the elevator down to the press box. The

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 2>view is spectacular. The Dodger Dogs are great.

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned my favorite moments covering the Phillies over the years.

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety four the home opener sixty five thousand at

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Veterans Stadium, John Cruck literally rolls out of a radiation treatment,

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 2>doubles to the gap standing ovation still makes the hair

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>on my next stand up. The other favorite moment Matt

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Stairs Dodger Stadium. Oh wait, deep into the night. Unbelievable

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>that sixty thousand people or whatever it was, fifty eight

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 2>thousand people in that ballpark could be so quiet. You

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 2>could actually hear the Phillies dugout cheering up in the

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 2>press box as Matt Stairs ran around the bases. So

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>that was at Dodger Stadium. I can still I can

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>still feel that moment, So it's a special place. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you enjoy the three game series Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim, Jim, did you hear me crying when that when

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<v Speaker 1>it happened? Because I literally brought me to tears.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you you cry at a sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point, but I literally was. I literally

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<v Speaker 1>was brought to tears.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, work it now. The press box is here,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, your box was like two, two or three down, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I should have said the stadium was quiet except

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<v Speaker 2>for the Phillies box, which is like two or three down.

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<v Speaker 2>We could hear you guys over there. And when that

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<v Speaker 2>ball came off the bat, I hit my knee on

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<v Speaker 2>like an electrical outlet under the press box. And do

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<v Speaker 2>you know I still have a knot in that knee

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<v Speaker 2>because I hit it at such fourth that ball came

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<v Speaker 2>off the off that bat. It was unbelievable. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>that great picture in the Hall of Fame Club at

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<v Speaker 2>Citizens Bank Park. As it's coming off the bat, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a picture above the Phillies dugout and you can see

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<v Speaker 2>some of the Dave Montgomery is behind the dugout and

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<v Speaker 2>you can see him rising and just follow it and

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<v Speaker 2>then the looks of elations starting to explode on people's face.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a still shot from the newspaper fabulous storytelling pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dodger Stadium. Man love that place.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure dude, sure it'll be fun. Hey dude, Jimmy, do

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<v Speaker 1>we have some people?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Have some people ask some questions for this next pod?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we could probably do on Wednesday. We would

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<v Speaker 3>have to have him to send in some questions for us.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's something that we were thinking about trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna try to do that on Wednesdays. But I

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<v Speaker 2>probably should run run that by Elmer. That's my Todd.

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<v Speaker 2>I called Elmer because he's the glue he is. But oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>people are watching this.

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<v Speaker 1>People are watching this and send some questions in to

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<v Speaker 1>us and into the Todd Pod, into.

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<v Speaker 2>The Todd Pod. Well, I hope we uh, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>we pulled it off without our backbone, our leader. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you for you know, listening and watching the

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<v Speaker 2>episode of this episode of The Phillies Show. And Rubin,

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<v Speaker 2>I will smell.

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<v Speaker 1>You later, spell you, Jim.

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