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Speaker 1: Oh time, Steve Tasks time. Thanks time Banks do not time.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's a beautiful day in Archard Park.

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Speaker 1: It is sunny, it is brisk, it is nineteen degrees

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Speaker 1: a little chilly, but it's a beautiful day. And welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Welcome to one Bill Slide, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio or right next

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Speaker 1: door to New air of Field Home of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be quiet for a little while, but that's okay.

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Speaker 1: We're not the curling up into a ball and sulking

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Speaker 1: go to work. We're done doing darn it. We're getting Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get calls now. The week's interesting. Interesting weekend calls

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Speaker 1: now from out of town friends, people basically wondering if

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, you okay? How's it? How Buffalo fins feeling?

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Speaker 1: Come on, I'm talking to my mom and my dad

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Speaker 1: were like they were you know, you will yeah, rubbing

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Speaker 1: my Tommy and I got us two years old. Stale,

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Speaker 1: Are you okay, shut up, I'm fine, exactly, we'll get

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Speaker 1: over get off. We're getting over it, and we got

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Speaker 1: a good show today to try to get over it.

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Speaker 1: We've got Ross Tucker joining us in about twelve thirty,

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Speaker 1: about twenty nine minutes from now, the former Bills offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman who was a multimedia star, Ross Tucker, will join us.

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Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on the Bill's loss to the

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Speaker 1: Texans starman Thomas Hall of famer. I'm sure I'll have

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Speaker 1: some good perspective on the Bill's end of season and

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Speaker 1: the bills twenty nineteen season, and at two o'clock Will

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Speaker 1: Brinson of CBS Sports dot Com. So we got enough

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Speaker 1: people to distract us today, and quite frankly, we don't

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Speaker 1: Are you're feeling okay? Yeah? I feel okay. Come on,

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Speaker 1: nobody died, right, I'm all right over it. I'm all right,

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Speaker 1: shut up, don't I look okay? Exactly exactly right, We're okay,

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Speaker 1: We're okay. It was a tough loss, but we're okay.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna survive. And by the way, the Bills are

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be better next year. So ask me next

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Speaker 1: a kind of that's about as far as we thought

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Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to say, yeah, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: in and thump the chief But you know, you figured two.

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Speaker 1: And here's the sad part about it. We all wanted

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Speaker 1: you know, and we got deprived of that opportunity. They

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of positives coming out of that

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Speaker 1: the season. You got a guy that was five and

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Speaker 1: every statistical like category. At quarterback. You got a running

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Speaker 1: back that you drafted who turns into what it looks like,

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Speaker 1: a really really good player. Tremaine Edmonds's turning into an

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Speaker 1: absolute lynch pin of the franchise. Awesome, awesome individual and

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Speaker 1: But the thing that gets me going about this team

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Speaker 1: is the fact that they're all getting better. They're getting better, better, better, better.

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Speaker 1: Josh is better, Devin Singletary is better, Dawson Knox is better.

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Speaker 1: All these guys are better. They've developed these young players

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Speaker 1: And I think that's going to continue. And it's fun

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Speaker 1: to think about it. Sure is. And let's get right

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Speaker 1: into today's Twitter poll, which steals with the future, and

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Speaker 1: admittedly the bright future for the Buffalo Bills, which Bills player.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I'll have a breakout season in twenty

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Speaker 1: a breakout season to me is one where they we

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Speaker 1: That would be a breakout play. Okay, So what do

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Speaker 1: you think which Bill's player will have a breakout season

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Speaker 1: There are reasons why he might not, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: Those are the choices on the Twitter poll right now.

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Speaker 1: Forty eight percent of you say it should be Devin Singletary.

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Speaker 1: eight percent of you say Tremaine Edmonds. He'd be my choice.

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Speaker 1: The tweet sheet is open. We'll read some tweets in

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Speaker 1: the phone lines too. We always kind of analyzed there,

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Speaker 1: It is. The impetus is on the offense to improve.

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Speaker 1: So I think when you say Josh and Devin, it's

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Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot more improvement to come

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Speaker 1: strong second half this season, ninth overall pick. He's unbelievably talented.

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Speaker 1: Really expecting big things from him next year. That's not

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Speaker 1: a bad not a bad guy to name David as

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, and not that the Houston lots

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Speaker 1: means everything. But I was watching again some clips over overnight.

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Speaker 1: I guess it was early this morning. Watching a couple

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Speaker 1: of plays. I think it was on NFL Network. They

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Speaker 1: were doing something about the Texans and just watching how

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Speaker 1: many times they had double teams blocks on Ed Oliver

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Speaker 1: and how they were so Concer scerned about at Oliver

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Speaker 1: up front, he was making a difference and in the

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Speaker 1: Houston game, and I would say for the last month

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Speaker 1: or so of the season he was a difference maker.

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Speaker 1: I think Ed Oliver kind of got his feet on

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Speaker 1: the ground and decided to be a player over the

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Speaker 1: last six weeks or so of the regular season. I

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Speaker 1: think you look for more of that in the next

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Speaker 1: year's tea. Yeah, I agree. I liked what I saw

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Speaker 1: from him, and I've been talking about this a lot.

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Speaker 1: One of the fun things about this year was seeing

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Speaker 1: guys like Ed Oliver, Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox, all these

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Speaker 1: young guys get better, and I think Ed's on that trajectory.

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Speaker 1: He was getting better and better, and he was and

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Speaker 1: when they I think this defense was playing its best

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year with Ed on the field.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the case in the first half of the season,

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Speaker 1: and I think it definitely was at the end. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big step for a young player

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Speaker 1: to make mid in you know, three months of reps.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I think that's a great called

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Speaker 1: at Oliver, maybe a guy who in this Latin next offseason,

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Speaker 1: this coming off season, hopefully he'll put his nose on

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Speaker 1: the grindstone, will come back better. Certainly he got better

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Speaker 1: during the regular season. That's a great call. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet to answer the question, which Bills

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Speaker 1: player do you think we'll have a breakout season in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. The tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills from

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Speaker 1: Tyler Singletary being the feature, He's going to be in

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Speaker 1: for a big year, gonna make Bean look like a

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Speaker 1: genius all over again. That's a popular and it's the

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Speaker 1: number one response that people say. Devin Singletary, Robbie tweets

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Speaker 1: in Ed Oliver, the other three already broke out in

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Speaker 1: a way and Ed could see the biggest jump in performance.

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Speaker 1: That goes to my question, I guess looking for specificity

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Speaker 1: as to what amounts to a breakout year, and from Nick,

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Speaker 1: this is an interesting one. Nick says, I really hope

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Speaker 1: we see Dawson Knox have a breakout season. He made

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Speaker 1: some great plays this year, but he also had some

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Speaker 1: drops and inconsistency. I think he's shown that if he

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Speaker 1: can limit the drops and become more involved in the offense,

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Speaker 1: he could be a great weapon. I think that's a great,

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Speaker 1: great observation, Nick. I can't tell you how many weeks

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Speaker 1: I went into the game that weekend thinking all right,

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Speaker 1: this is it. This is the week that Dawson Knox

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Speaker 1: establishes himself as a as a great performer and an

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Speaker 1: important offensive performer, and it just never really happened. He

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Speaker 1: had some good as you said, he had some great

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Speaker 1: catches this year and made some great plays. I thought

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Speaker 1: he set himself up as a really dangerous weapon for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. You know the pass that people on an

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Speaker 1: MSG are watching now the past he caught against New England,

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Speaker 1: a huge play, a huge play. I'd like to see him,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of those every game and a half.

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Speaker 1: But he just wasn't capable of doing that. And I

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Speaker 1: think he is positioned well anyway to be a breakout

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Speaker 1: performer next year. I really believe that. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to get a huge opportunity I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna walk into training camp this next year is the

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Speaker 1: number one guy, which is a shock when you think

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Speaker 1: they went out and got Tyler Croft, the guy from

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati who you know struggled, was in and out of

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Speaker 1: lineup with he still struggled with injuries here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: But Dawson Knox, I don't think he's in question. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna walk into the room next year. Is the number

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Speaker 1: one tied end for the Buffalo Bills, um, and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of opportunity to spread his wings

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Speaker 1: and we'll see if he can do it. It's um,

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Speaker 1: it's a yeah. Once again another offensive guy. And I

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Speaker 1: think there's plenty of room uh in the roof for

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Speaker 1: these offensive guys to raise their level. That's right. Their

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Speaker 1: call here from Tony in Buffalo. Good hello, Tony, go ahead. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how you guys doing today? Good? Good? Hey? Um um,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I hobviously agree with a lot of the

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Speaker 1: callers about you know, Devin Singletary and some of the

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Speaker 1: guys who you know pretty much made a good impact

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Speaker 1: on this year. In my opinion, though, I think, um,

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Speaker 1: surprisingly daryl'bam Johnson UM may have a chance to make

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Speaker 1: a huge impact next year. I like what I've seen

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Speaker 1: from him, you know, in the in the minimal you know,

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Speaker 1: snaps he did get, but I feel like his athletic upside,

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Speaker 1: you know, and how long he is could could possibly

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Speaker 1: you know, propel him to to be a game changer

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, Tony, that's a really good point, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson is a guy who who made plays once

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Speaker 1: in a while and got some playing time. But there's

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Speaker 1: a room for more from Daryl Johnson no matter where

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Speaker 1: he's picked. And I think the Bills have made it

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Speaker 1: clear they don't care where you're picked or how you

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Speaker 1: got here. I think Daryl Johnson showed enough that maybe

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Speaker 1: with a little more bulk on his frame and a

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Speaker 1: lot more experience he would he would merit more playing

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Speaker 1: time and a chance to do more. For Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason he was active every week and he was

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Speaker 1: like the second or third guy to go in. He

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Speaker 1: did get some reps just about every game, and he

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Speaker 1: took a lot of special teams reps as well, which

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Speaker 1: to me says something about how hard he's willing to

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Speaker 1: work and what he's willing to do to stay active

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Speaker 1: and get on the field, you can laugh. But the hit.

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Speaker 1: The thing I remember about him most from this regular

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Speaker 1: season is always going to be right after this last

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Speaker 1: game Week seventeen against the Jets, opening kickoff, he came

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Speaker 1: down to lift the guy up and set the tone

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Speaker 1: for the game. That's a great one because this is

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Speaker 1: a team that's got some question marks leaving this season

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Speaker 1: about who's going to be back on the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, Shack Lawson are going to be free agents.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be some room for some guys that are

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Speaker 1: already on the roster to spread their wings a little

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Speaker 1: bit and Bam Johnson. You know, and we've seen him.

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Speaker 1: The guy's a He's a long, lean pass rusher. He's

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Speaker 1: built for it. So I'd love to see him have

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Speaker 1: a breakout year. That would really help the Bills. If

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Speaker 1: he can turn into a really great pass rusher, I

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Speaker 1: think that would be a pleasant surprise for them. And

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that was good enough on a team

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Speaker 1: that had a really really good defense as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: What sixth round draft pick, fifth round draft pick was

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Speaker 1: he seventh seventh round draft pick not only to be

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Speaker 1: not only be on the team, make the team, but

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Speaker 1: man be active and on the rotation on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: I think that spells good things for him going forward.

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Speaker 1: So you're right, that's a great call. You know what

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Speaker 1: they like about some of these suggestions. There's no shortage

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Speaker 1: of guys who could be a breakout performer, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? It kind of bodes well for the few.

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Speaker 1: Daryl Johnson was a seventh rounder. Yeah, but you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, the fact that there's someone that Darryl

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Speaker 1: Johnson is a legitimate choice. I think you're right, and

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Speaker 1: that to me indicates there are plenty of guys who

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Speaker 1: might have a breakout performance next year. Stew And Buffalo

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Speaker 1: has another new name to add to this list, Stu,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Good afternoon, guys. Hi.

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Speaker 1: Just someone that's been off the radar, Harrison Phillips. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know he's not a rookie, but it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: literally a second year and I think he was on

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Speaker 1: his way to have an agree with you last year

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Speaker 1: and think you could really hope. Yeah, he's coming back

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Speaker 1: off the acl that he suffered and I think that's

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Speaker 1: the second one of his career. Had won at Stanford

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Speaker 1: as well. I believe, but and rebounded extremely well from

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Speaker 1: that obviously, and he would And let's not forget when

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Speaker 1: at the break of training camp when the team was

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Speaker 1: in third downs, Harrison Phillips only was on the field.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy that was calling the pass rush stunts. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he wrestling defense, yeah that yeah, and he was Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that to me says a lot about where they

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Speaker 1: think his head is adding what he's capable of bringing

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Speaker 1: to the table. And I think, and I actually told

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Speaker 1: Harrison this, I had a brief conversation with him. I

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Speaker 1: think they really missed him when he left there, and

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Speaker 1: I think that caught him off guard early in the

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Speaker 1: season when they lost him, and they had some adjusting

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Speaker 1: to do. But you know, too, he's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of work to do to get back to be one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy after an ACL come back and be

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Speaker 1: stout and nimble like he was going into this. But

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Speaker 1: you're right, when they lost him this year, I thought

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Speaker 1: they lost a guy that they were really counting on.

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Speaker 1: And that's really you think about it. Maybe with the

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Speaker 1: exception of a couple of guys in training camp that

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Speaker 1: we didn't know, but like Ladrian Wall or whatever, Harrison

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Speaker 1: Phillips is really the lone guy that disappeared because of

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Speaker 1: an injury this season. I mean, there might be an

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to have. There's got to be another one.

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Speaker 1: He was the most prominent one. Ye, sure, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: can't think of one off that somebody can tell me

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Speaker 1: because I'm forgetting somebody who that we lost to injury

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Speaker 1: during a regular season. But that was it. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that I think. Call here from Dennis in Rochester. Hello, Dennis,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air. Welcome. Yeah, thanks left taking the call. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I've been watching the activity there for Beasley and and

607
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Speaker 1: they're very seldom using this guy. And here, this guy

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Speaker 1: is one of the best receivers that they have, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering why they're not. He's not involved in

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Speaker 1: in very many plays. Have you noticed that? Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're not using him, is that might

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a strong strong I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy was second on the team in receptions and

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Speaker 1: not by too much. He was. Yeah, he had We'll see,

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Speaker 1: he had to tell you what he had. He had.

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Speaker 1: He had sixty seven receptions for almost eight hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: and the top receiver on the team had seventy two

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Speaker 1: and that was John Brown. So he's you know, get

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Speaker 1: seven catches against the Patriots and the second of the

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Speaker 1: last game of the year. I think he had a

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Speaker 1: big game again at New England, and I think he look,

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Speaker 1: could he be used more? Yeah, And if you think

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Speaker 1: back to the Texans game, the playoff loss, he certainly

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Speaker 1: could have been used more in that game. But for

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Speaker 1: the most part, they got the ball to Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 1: I think, don't you Yeah, I don't think he was underused.

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Speaker 1: You can say that there were times when well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I'd have to go back and watch,

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Speaker 1: but certainly, yeah, and when their offense is not is

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Speaker 1: not hitting on all cylinders like it didn't for a

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Speaker 1: lot of the year, when you kind of struggle to

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Speaker 1: score points, you can always look at guys and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: he could have helped more, He could have helped more.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, it all comes down to

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Speaker 1: Josh and what he's looking at and where he throws

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Speaker 1: the football. I've said that since the beginning. It's what

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Speaker 1: catches against the Patriots, six against the Cowboys, I don't know,

638
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: and those were those were two really big games. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: what else Dennis. He's got great hands, and I just

640
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: was wondering, you know, like in the last game, how

641
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: many times was he used? I think three times? And

642
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: I thought that maybe this was something that you know,

643
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: Alan wasn't looking at him, or there was a problem

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Speaker 1: or something that existed. But I thought that they should

645
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Speaker 1: have used them Mark, and I think too. I'm not

646
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Speaker 1: saying that I've gone back and dissected the film on

647
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Speaker 1: this five targets. If your catches against Houston, if you're

648
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Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna defend the Buffalo Bills offense, I

649
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: think you start with Cole Beasley in the slot and

650
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Speaker 1: John Brown outside. So I'm pretty sure they didn't want it.

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Speaker 1: If you come into this game you're thinking, I'm not

652
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: gonna let Cole Beasley beat us or John Brown beat us.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see. I just I just I

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00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: don't know that he was underused, but certainly there were

655
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Speaker 1: situations where he came through big time. So which Bills

656
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Speaker 1: player will have a breakout season in twenty twenty? What

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Speaker 1: do you think? Give us a call? Eight oh three

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Speaker 1: former Bills offensive lineman, now a frequent guest on the

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Speaker 1: show and a very astute observer of NFL issues, Ross

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Speaker 1: to have you on the show with us? Thanks coming on, Murph.

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00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: I am fantastic, although I'd be better if the Buffalo

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00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: Bills were playing this weekend. I gotta tell you, I

677
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: was very disappointed on Saturday, like I'm sure everybody listening

678
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Speaker 1: was and watching. Multiple reasons. Number one is you know,

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Speaker 1: out of my five teams I played for, my favorite

680
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: team was the Bills, and so I root for them

681
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: and have an affinity for them. But number two, I

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00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: told everybody in their brother to take the Bills getting

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00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: the two and a half point because I thought they

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Speaker 1: were gonna win the game outright. And certainly during the

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00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: first forty minutes when they were kicking some serious keister

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00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: and we're up sixteen nothing, that that plus two and

687
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: a half Bills bet was looking good. Yeah, Ross, I'm

688
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: telling you, you're just touching the tip of the iceberg

689
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: as the emotional content and roller coaster we've been on

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00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: since that game. But look, what do you think about

691
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: that game? Certainly, you knew the Buffalo Bills was going

692
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: to be a tight one because that's the way they operate.

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Speaker 1: But how do you think that game came down? And

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00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: certainly you got to tip your hat to Deshaun Watson,

695
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: well exactly, Steve. Two things jump out to me. Number one,

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Speaker 1: when they were dominating the way they were, but they

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00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: kept settling for field goals, and in fact, after the

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00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: Andre Hopkins fumbled, I think that's when they got the

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Speaker 1: field goal maybe to go up sixteen nothing. I remember thinking,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about this. You know, it's still only

701
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: a two score game. And I mean they had sacked

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00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson about a zillion times at that point, they

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00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: had moved the ball effectively, but other than the first drive,

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00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: settling for field goals, and I just I had an

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00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: uneasy feeling about it for a bunch of different reasons.

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Speaker 1: And then Deshaun Watson is a spectacular player. He certainly

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00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: did some spectacular things. It's kind of crazy to think

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00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: about the two point conversion, all these different plays where

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Speaker 1: if they had just made one play or one stop,

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Speaker 1: it could have been different. But ultimately, I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty disappointing. You know. I think it's time for the

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00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: Bills and Bills fans to raise their expectations. You know.

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Speaker 1: I felt like a couple of years ago they were

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Speaker 1: happy to be in the playoffs. I felt like this

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Speaker 1: year they really felt like it was time to win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they had clinched the playoffs a while ago.

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00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: It was their time, and I thought that it was

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00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: their turn to get a win. And obviously, when they

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00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: were dominating up front both sides of the ball sixteen nothing,

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Speaker 1: I thought that they were gonna get it done. Did

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00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: not care for a lot of the plays that Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen made late, some of the sacks he took, the

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Speaker 1: fumble he actually, you know, really hurt them. As we know,

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Speaker 1: he made some big plays as well. And I look

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Speaker 1: at it like this guy's I think Josh Allen will

726
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: get better in terms of taking sacks. You know, step

727
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: one was to stop throwing the picks. Step two will

728
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: be now, okay, you're not throwing picks anymore, but you

729
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: can't take some of these sacks. I think the ball

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Speaker 1: security will get better. What I've been wondering is the

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Speaker 1: play where he was about to get tackled and he

732
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: pitched it back. I don't know, and I'd be curious

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Speaker 1: to get your guy's opinion. Is that something he learns

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Speaker 1: from or is that like a fatal flaw that like

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00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: how does how is he wired to try to do that? Like?

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00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: Like that was highly concerned to me. I think you

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00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: can get better on the sacks stuff and the ball security.

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Speaker 1: But for him to have it somewhere in his brain

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Speaker 1: that that was a good idea that just that worries me.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point, Ross and we've talked about that

741
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: a lot, and certainly he's not being coached to do

742
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: that or instructed to do that, I think, and I'm

743
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: interested to hear where Steve says. I do think we've

744
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: talked about this on the show. Josh kind of got

745
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: lost in the fog of war there after a while.

746
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: And when he does that, he's capable of making plays

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Speaker 1: like that and a couple of other plays. The sacks

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Speaker 1: that you talked about, taking bad sacks, taking him right

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00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: out of field goal range with sacks. I think it's

750
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: just a function of lack of experience, lack of big

751
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: game pressure experience, Steve, I really do well. Yeah, And

752
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: I think ross when you get down into it, you

753
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: can go back and look at all the crazy stuff

754
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: that happened in that game. Certainly it's a we've seen

755
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: it raise its head with Josh before, because it's a

756
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: here's a guy that threw three in or ops in

757
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: a one score game against the Patriots the first time

758
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: around and learn from it and didn't throw another interception

759
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: for you know, three games, and it was so he

760
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: does have it in him to put that stuff aside

761
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: him and get over it. But I think it's going

762
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: to take time for him to get to a point

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00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: where he feels comfortable enough in the moment to make

764
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: a play that is there not a play that will

765
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: win the game on every single snap. And I think

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00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: that's still in his mentality as one of those players

767
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: who grew up being better than everybody else. Yeah, you

768
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: know what, Steve, Here's how I look at it, right,

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Speaker 1: for both accuracy and football IQ, right game situations, football intelligence,

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00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, you can't go from a one to attend, right.

771
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: I think you can get a little bit better, but

772
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: nobody's like Tim Tebow and then all of a sudden

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00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: they're completing seventy percent of their passes, right. Like, Sure,

774
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: you can get incrementally better accuracy wise and incrementally better

775
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: football IQ, but you can't get a lot better. So

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00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: I guess we could have the debate where Josh is

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Speaker 1: on both of those. My guests would be he's around

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00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: a three or a four, and I think he can

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: get to a five or a six, maybe a seven,

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00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: But I don't see him ever being an eight, nine

781
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: or ten in either accuracy or football intelligence Football IQ. However,

782
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: he's a ten in terms of as a runner, and

783
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: he's a ten in terms of arm talent and arm strength.

784
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: So he's already there in those two categories. I mean

785
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: I called the Patriots game the second one of Foxborro.

786
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: He made a couple of throws that were just ridiculous.

787
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: I mean it was like it was like Aaron Rodgers.

788
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: You know, he had a howitzer on the one throw

789
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: to Cole Beasley. So I think that's what he's gonna be.

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00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be a ten talent runner, ten

791
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: talent arm and the Bill's goal now is to get

792
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: him from a three or a four on the game

793
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: situation awareness stuff and the accuracy stuff and try to

794
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: get him as high as he can go five, six,

795
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Speaker 1: maybe seven. He's never gonna be a ten either one

796
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: of those categories, but if you get him to a

797
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: six or a seven, I think it's enough that the

798
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Bills can go far in the playoffs. If the Bills

799
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Speaker 1: Harbor hopes of a championship sometime in the near future, Ross,

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00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: can you win with that quarterback? I think you can.

801
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: I think you can as long as the rest of

802
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: the team around him is good enough. I think he

803
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: can because I think Cam Newton, I mean, the Panthers

804
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: were fifteen and one and easily could have won the

805
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And Cam is a five maybe a six

806
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: in terms of accuracy and football I Q football awareness.

807
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: So I do think you can now that said, I

808
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: probably would put I probably would rather have a guy

809
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: that's a ten accuracy and ten football awareness like a

810
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Brady or a breeze over and be five or six

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Speaker 1: in terms of running and in terms of arm talent,

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00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: then the other way around, like josh Is. But that's

813
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: what you got. I guess what concerns me about the

814
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Bills for next year? They were so healthy this year.

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00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean I saw somebody tweeting it out. It might

816
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: have been Mike Clay, who's a fantasy guy from ESPN.

817
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: If you think about how healthy the Bills were this

818
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: year compared to like so many other teams, the Eagles

819
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks, and the Bills offensive line, the Bill's defense,

820
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: they had very few starter games missed. They are primed

821
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: for a big time regression in that area next year, unfortunately.

822
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: And I can remember guys in O four, Murph, remember

823
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: when we lost to the Steelers backups or we would

824
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: have made the playoffs. I remember after the year, I

825
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: was talking to Jim Overerdorff, and I was making sure

826
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: he knew I got my playing time bonus, and he

827
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: said something I thought was interesting just about how healthy

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Speaker 1: we had stayed that year. I think our biggest injury

829
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: that year had been like Mark Cambar tight end, And

830
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Speaker 1: don't you know, the next year, the first game in

831
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Speaker 1: OH five Tokyo tears as achilles or whatever. So I'm not,

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody listening or watching knock on wood, I'm

833
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: not trying to put the kaibos to the bills, but

834
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Speaker 1: you guys know, I'm always gonna be honest, and a

835
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: major concern for me is that you just know they're

836
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: not going to stay as healthy next year as they

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Speaker 1: did this year. And you hope it's not too many

838
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: at one position, and you hope it's not you know,

839
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: difference making guys like Turdavious White, etc. Yeah. The problem is, though,

840
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: you go into every year and never knowing what that's

841
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: going to be, and there's no predicting it and no

842
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: explanation for it. And the Bills will tell you they've

843
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: got a really nice program in place, and they've invested

844
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: a ton of money and a ton of facilities into

845
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: keeping guys healthy. But you're right. I mean, that's a

846
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: that's a big unknown and it could go for you

847
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: or against you. I did want to ask you one

848
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: more thing about about this. Last week in the Wildcard weekend,

849
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: you wrote a nice article, and I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 1: You said, listen, we'd rather not have these borderline calls

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Speaker 1: be made, just let these guys play a little bit

852
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: rather than get into the tiki tack penalties of officiating.

853
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: But my point would be this ross. Basically, my point

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00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: is this, and I'll simplify it and overstate it to

855
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: make it Nobody cares what the rules are as long

856
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: as you call them the same in this game as

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Speaker 1: you did the last game, and in this game is

858
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Speaker 1: the other game. And if you're calling him against us,

859
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: you got to call him for us. So consistency is

860
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: the only is the one true holy grail for the

861
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: whole replay officiating. Whatever whatever debate you want to have

862
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: about good calls bad calls, still the one and only

863
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: holy grail is consistency, because once we know what they're

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00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: gonna call, we can all live with it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so I agree with you, Steve, And I got three

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Speaker 1: quick points to make on this, right so number one,

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Speaker 1: the main point of my article was I didn't like

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00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: that the Eagles lost because Clowney got hit. You know,

869
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: Clowney hit Wentz and he got knocked out of the

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00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: game because I did an Eagles pregame and that cost

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00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: me a paycheck. I didn't like that the bill is lost.

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00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: I thought the blindside block call on Cody Ford was bad.

873
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: I didn't like it at all, But ultimately, I mean,

874
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: it was fourteen hours of unbelievable free entertainment over the weekend.

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00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean that was I mean, it's the greatest reality

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00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: show on TV. That said. My next point would be,

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00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: I would rather they air on not throwing the flag,

878
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: so like, I can live with Kyle Rudolph's push off

879
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: not being called, as long as they also don't call

880
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: the blindside block on Cody Ford. Like I would rather

881
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: them keep the flag in their pocket then throw the flag.

882
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: And specifically, when you talk about and I don't know

883
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: if you guys have talked about this, but I noticed

884
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: this on Twitter and tweeted it out at Ross Tucker

885
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: NFL specifically, when you talk about the blindside block, go

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00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: back and watch the Shawn Watson's two point conversion because

887
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson was blocking somebody on the edge and then

888
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: he stopped and he kind of peeled back and popped

889
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds just as Edmonds was reaching out and I

890
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: think was going to be able to grab to Shaun Watson.

891
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: And to me, that was more of a blind side

892
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: block than Cody Fords. And that's where it gets disappointing.

893
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they should have called either one. I

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00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: understand the letter of the law, but you can't call

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00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: one and not the other. And I didn't realize it

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00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: in real time, but somebody was pointing out on Twitter

897
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: they were complimenting Duke Johnson because he blocked two guys

898
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: on the plane. I would say, go, yeah, that's a

899
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: sweet block two guys, but that's a blind tew bline.

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00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: They should call that. That's actually illegal. Yeah, And if

901
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: that's the crusher, that's exactly what I brought up in

902
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: the beginning. If you're gonna call one, call the other.

903
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: And if you're not gonna call any, don't call any.

904
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: But don't and particularly within the same game, don't call

905
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: one and not the other. And that's so you can

906
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: make the rules whatever you want. But if you can

907
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: call them consistently in game and out a game, and

908
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: from this game to that game, week to week, year

909
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: to year. In the league, everybody will understand what they're

910
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: looking at, and nobody will have any room to complain

911
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: because they've seen it one hundred times before. The problem

912
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: is you're looking at the same two plays in the

913
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: same game. One's called for the team and then one's

914
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: called against them, or it's called against the same team twice.

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Speaker 1: One yes it called, one no it wasn't, and it

916
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: went against the same team both times. That's what you

917
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: can't live with. Yeah, I'm with you, Steve, So let's

918
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: all hope that it doesn't happen this weekend. I actually

919
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: really thought I was going to see you guys. I'm

920
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: in the booth Saturday night right for the Ravens game

921
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: for Westwood One. You know, I thought the Patriots would

922
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: beat the Titans, so I thought I'd get a chance

923
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: to see Bills Ravens. I was really looking forward to

924
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: that one. Unfortunately it was not meant to be. But

925
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: hopefully the Bills can build on this and who knows,

926
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: maybe even win the division next year. The door is open. Hey, Ross,

927
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: thanks for this. We appreciate it anytime. You guys know

928
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: that I love being on with you guys. Thanks, Thanks Ross,

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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, the host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast

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Speaker 1: Radio dot Com. NFL Insider writes for The Athletic and

931
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: Ross S. Tucker. His calls were brought to you by

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933
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: catch Ross every weekday on Home and Home his new

934
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Speaker 1: show out on Radio dot com, Forward, slash Home or

935
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: search Home on radio dot com app. We thank Ross

936
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: Starker for joining us. Steve and I coming back with

937
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: more One Bills Live from Seneca Studios in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live,

939
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker, thanks again to Ross Tucker for

940
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: joining us. Our Twitter poll today which player is gonna

941
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: have a breakout season? In twenty twenty, got Brand on

942
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: the line from James Sound with some thoughts on that. Brad,

943
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: go ahead, Hey, how are you guys doing today? Great? Great?

944
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: My breakoff player? Josh Allen. I know some guys or

945
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: some people may just have some negative things to focus on,

946
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of positives two that

947
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: that had happened throughout the season and even in that

948
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: playoff game. I think year three, uh typically maybe for

949
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks is a good year. And I think being

950
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: and McDermott will put the right players around them and

951
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: maybe in the draft or her free agency get them

952
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: some wide receiver and offensive help. And I just think

953
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of positives that maybe we don't focus

954
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: on as much, and maybe quarterbacks and years passed for

955
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: the past twenty years, we're waiting for guys to you know,

956
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: shoulder potential. But Josh is here and his potentials is here,

957
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: and I think we really see it, and I'm excited

958
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: to see what he has the offer going forward. And

959
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: I think he's our QB brand. That's a good point.

960
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: And let me it strikes me, see there's a lot

961
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: of impatience around Josh Allen and he's only finished his

962
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: second year. He's only got twenty eight NFL starts. He

963
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: has gone from a six win quarterback to a ten

964
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: win quarterback, to a playoff starter, to a guy who

965
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: had his team in position to win a game in

966
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: the third quarter and they did and they failed. But

967
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: I do think that his future is bright and it's

968
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: hard to imagine that today, but he's come a long

969
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: way in twenty eight NFL starts, and he's got a

970
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: long way to go. But I do think his future

971
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: is bright. He's twenty three years old, he'll be twenty

972
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: four in May this year. He's twenty three years old,

973
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: He's played twenty eight NFL games. It's hard to be patient,

974
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: but I think you have to remind yourself every once

975
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: in a while that, Okay, he'll get better. And I

976
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: think and Ross Tucker, uh, you know, I had thoughts

977
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 1: on that too, the long term future for Josh Allen.

978
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: They don't agree with everything you said, but I think

979
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: in general, Ross Tucker believes the Bills. We'll coach him

980
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: up and he'll get better in the future. You gotta

981
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: think too, in the current atmosphere around the NFL. You

982
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: see guys like Pat Mahomes and Lamar Jackson, and some

983
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: of these guys come in, other guys that come in

984
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: and have really immediate success, and you know, you gotta

985
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes was MVP, now Lamar Jackson's MVP, and it's

986
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: you kind of transpose that onto Josh and say, why

987
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: not our guy Josh to me, despite his huge amount

988
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: of physical ability, he had further to go than those guys.

989
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: His his accuracy is something he works on those guys, don't.

990
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that Josh really has

991
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: to work on as much as anything as not just

992
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: his accuracy and his throwing motion, on all the mechanics

993
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: and stuff. We're gonna have Phil Sims on tomorrow and

994
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna I'll get him to talk about the mechanics

995
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: that he sees with Josh. He's got a ton of ideas.

996
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is there. But I think one

997
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: of the things that Josh really has to come a

998
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: lot further on and will, and when he does, it'll

999
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: help is his maturity and his emotional calmness when the

1000
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: game's on the line. We saw him, and we've talked

1001
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: about it a ton, how he kind of went off

1002
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: the rails a little bit and trying to do that

1003
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: crazy lateral thing and always trying to extend the play

1004
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: to the point where he takes two bad sacks in

1005
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: a row. That to me is a mindset, and that's

1006
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: about emotional maturity that he's not doesn't have yet. But

1007
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: the longer you get into this and the more he plays,

1008
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: the more commonplace that will be, the more reps he'll have,

1009
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: the more the more common that will seem to him,

1010
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: the more experience he'll have in those moments, and the

1011
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: calmer he'll be that'll go away. He had further to

1012
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: go than some of these other players that we're talking about,

1013
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: so it's gonna take him a little longer to get there.

1014
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: He was playing in Wyoming. He wasn't playing at Louisville

1015
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: playing in bowl games winning the Heisman Trophy. He was

1016
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: playing at Wyoming with dental students. You know what I mean,

1017
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm exactly you know what I mean. He's playing with it.

1018
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: He's playing with students. You know, he's not playing with

1019
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: Division one guys. And so there, you know, he had

1020
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: further to go to get to where you know he

1021
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: was gonna be compared. We saw that in the early

1022
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: stages of his career last year when he got in

1023
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: and man, oh man was he you know he'd take

1024
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: you remember, he'd take the snap, drop back, look and run. Yeah,

1025
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: you know, and and it was fun because he made

1026
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: some stuff happen. But like Ross Tucker said, this game

1027
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: is structured to have a guy that ultimately you're gonna

1028
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: stand in the pocket and make plays, and Josh had

1029
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: a long way to go to get to that point,

1030
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: and he has made great strides he made He brought

1031
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: an NFL team to a ten and six record and

1032
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: a playoff game. He's come a long, long way, so

1033
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: he's got a ways to go, but he had further

1034
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: to go to begin with. So it's going to take

1035
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: him longer. Yep, But I you know, you gotta I'm

1036
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: all in with this guy. I mean, I haven't seen

1037
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: anything that even even points me in the direction he

1038
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: may not be or may not get there because he's

1039
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: continued to get better. All Right. We got a break here,

1040
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: and then coming up after the top of the hour,

1041
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, Hall of Fame running back joins us to

1042
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: recap the Bill season. Talk about last Saturday. Can you

1043
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: handle anymore? I think you can. It's One Bill's Live,

1044
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: presented by Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio in Archard Park.

1045
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio Collo Bills Radio Network. Stories

1046
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: date from One Bill's drive around the league. They're getting

1047
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: set for the next round of the playoffs. Division around

1048
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: playoff games. The Minnesota Vikings have already been without Stefan

1049
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: Diggs for a couple of days, and now more bad

1050
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: news at the Vikings wide receiver position is Adam Feeling

1051
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: suffering an ankle injury. In practice yesterday, he cut his ankle,

1052
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: requiring stitches, stealing Who's overtime catch up the Vikings for

1053
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: that twenty six twenty win over the Saints. Listed on

1054
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: the team's injury report as limited. With that injury, New

1055
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers coach Matt Role does not rule out having

1056
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: Cam Newton on his roster as his quarterback in twenty twenty.

1057
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Speaker 1: Newton requiring recovering from left foot surgery. There's uncertainty about

1058
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: how long the recovery might take. He's the twenty fifteen

1059
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Speaker 1: NFL MVP entering the final year of his contract, but

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Speaker 1: Rules said I look forward to working with him. I

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Speaker 1: hope he is back. Savers play tonight game night. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: Michael Frowleek makes his Sabers debut as the team takes

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00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: on the Saint Louis Blues in Saint Louis face off

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00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: schedule for eight o'clock. Frowley skating on a line with

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Speaker 1: Marcus Johansson and Connor Sheery. In practice, Johansson's on a

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Speaker 1: four game point Street. Shery has four points in Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: last three games. Savers have won the last two meetings

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Speaker 1: between these teams. Looking for their first win at Saint

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00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: Louis in eleven years since December twenty seven, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine, and San Jose Sharks forward Logan Coulture expected

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00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: to miss up to six weeks with a broken ankle.

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Speaker 1: He fractured his ankle Tuesday. I did in the Sharks

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Speaker 1: three two loss at the Saint Louis Blues. He was

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Speaker 1: in a walking boot after the game. He awkwardly slammed

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Speaker 1: his left leg into the end boards in the second period.

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Speaker 1: Logan Culture thirty year old, thirty years old. He's had

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Speaker 1: fourteen goals and twenty two assists thirty six points, leading

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Speaker 1: scorer for this Annos Sharks. And that's the update from

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Tasker. Here, our

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Speaker 1: guest is uh Thurman Thomas. Now all the famer Thurman

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Speaker 1: Thomas joined us. Hello Thurman, how you doing? What's up?

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this right here, Um asked. Wait

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00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips, Oh yeah, we's going. What are people asking him?

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00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: I have a I just see the first one I

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00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: have a thing on Twitter. He was let go by

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00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: um Rams the other day and said today at one

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Speaker 1: o'clock our time, he wants to answer questions on Twitter. Yeah,

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00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: he's doing it. He's something. He's funny. I think Wade

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00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: is uh. I think you can't bother Wade with anything.

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Speaker 1: You know nothing, nothing. I love Waite Thurman m A

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Speaker 1: couple of things I want to talk you about. I

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00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: want to let me start with the Hall of Fame.

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00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: You're a Hall of Famer running back for several years now.

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00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: Our boy Steve missed the miss the finalist roles the

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00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: other day, which has been of a yeah, thanks for

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00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: the help, bron go ahead, what about you? What about it?

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00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: I am doing everything in our in our power, along

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: with a bunch of my friends to get you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know what the hold up is, man,

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I mean, I just saw the list

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00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: of other days. It's a great list. It's always a

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: great list. It's a great list. It's all I mean,

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00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: I think every year it's a great list. I mean,

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00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: you're talking about Hall of Fame status here. It's hard.

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00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: It's hard to complain about what we're gonna say though

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00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: about yeah. I mean they have what ten two contributors,

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00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: a couple of coaches and ten whatever. So that's and

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00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna put in twenty guys this year. Yeah, that's

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00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: taken away from these guys. Man. Yeah, I can understand

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Speaker 1: the coaches and the contributors, but it's another one that's like,

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Speaker 1: that's like ten guys on him. I don't even I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what that category is. You're taking away

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00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: from what he's done over his career. Yeah, they're I

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Speaker 1: think they're only gonna put five in. Yeah, that's they're

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00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: gonna put five in. They usually put five to seven,

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00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: sometimes two old timer players, and then I think the

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Speaker 1: twenty guys. Yeah, or maybe it's maybe it's maybe the

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Speaker 1: twenty guys are part of the old timers. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I just don't get it. Here's what I don't get.

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Speaker 1: There's no recognition of, um, the role that special teams

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Speaker 1: play in none throw football. And if if not him,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about you for a second, who

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Speaker 1: goes in if not him as a special team? What

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Speaker 1: were we talking about Matthew Slater when he five years

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Speaker 1: after he's done. Atthew Slater is a great player. He

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Speaker 1: may deserve the Hall of Fame consideration, he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to wait at least twenty four years. But why does

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Speaker 1: why did these guys have to wait? Why does I

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Speaker 1: don't know how they have to wait? I don't know

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Speaker 1: why they have to wait. To be honest, I really don't. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it either. I'm

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Speaker 1: Boycatt in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, okay, yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're go. That's gonna go a long way

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Speaker 1: towards what. I don't know. It's listen, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not you know, it's a great list, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's the same conversation every year, whether I'm involved or not,

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Speaker 1: that there are certain guys who are great, who kind

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00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: of deserve to be in, who don't get in, and

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00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, and all the guys that go in, they

1140
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: all deserve it. I mean, I've never seen a guy

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00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: go in and I thought wrong doing, you know, right,

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean you can always make like that.

1143
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't know who I mean, yeah, but whatever, you know,

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00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a conversation we have. It's a conversation that

1145
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: happens every single year. But I'm not gonna say, but yeah,

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00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: they got in. Okay, Well, I mean it's and you

1147
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: know what is the list gonna look like next year?

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Speaker 1: You know who's coming up. It's a great list. It'll

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00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: be a single year. It'll be about list. It's about

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Speaker 1: time for you to be a part of that list.

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00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. All Right, honey, I haven't even

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00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: gotten close. I know, because I'm thinking, you know, I'm

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: not even in the room when it happens. It's gonna

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00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: be the Steve Tasker Show, not Murphy. I might not

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Speaker 1: even get a visit. I might even have the visit.

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00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the Steve Yeah, six days comedy hours.

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00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: I will be I will be impossible to live there.

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00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, right right, what do you say. I will

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00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: be absolutely un I've already heard. I've already heard that

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Speaker 1: you're not in the Hall of Fame. Thinking about what

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Speaker 1: it will be, I will be an absolute contasted. You'll

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Speaker 1: be fine. You'll be fine. Thurman, Thomas all the Famer

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Speaker 1: joint us. And now we got to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Houston game. Thurman, and I'm curious most people have a

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Speaker 1: story about where they watch the game and how they

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Speaker 1: watch the game. Where did you watching the game at

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Speaker 1: home with my family? Yeah? Yeah, fireplace werowing everybody happy, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Margarita's gone. Yeah, everything was going. Yeah. When things started

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Speaker 1: to go bad, what happened? People breaking classes? Now I

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Speaker 1: went to scotch No. Um, no, you know what. We

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00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: were just kind of like all in amazing shocked to

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Speaker 1: what was going on. I mean we really were. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how could a team be up that much at halftime? Sixteen?

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Speaker 1: We'll be up in sixteen nothing and um and all

1175
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, give it away. Um. Things

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00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: didn't go right for us like they did in the

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Speaker 1: first half. I mean he started off with the kickoff.

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00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean everything went bad. You know, everything went bad.

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00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: You know J. J. Watt got a sack and that

1180
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: turned up supposedly the Houston crowd and its players. I mean,

1181
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: we didn't make enough plays as a football team. And

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00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking and well you know what I'll say, kind

1183
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: of like with the organization. I mean it was every body,

1184
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, the coaches, the teams. I mean it was

1185
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: not a good look for us. We did not do

1186
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: we needed to do to win that football game. And

1187
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Speaker 1: what the players are taking this heart, I hope they are.

1188
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: I hope they don't get away from the TV because

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00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: you know what, there's four teams left, and well eight

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00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: teams left, and we play four of them next year.

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00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: Get your butt on account Saturday and Sunday and watch

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00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: the teams that we're gonna play and get ready. That's

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00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: all you can do. Ye sit there and watch it. Yeah,

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: there's gotta be reruns of the Houston game. Who who

1195
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: they play? They played Kansas City, right, It's gonna be reruns.

1196
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Speaker 1: You're gonna see it over again. You know what. Let

1197
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: let it make you man, Let it get your pissed off.

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Speaker 1: One of the things you mentioned it. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: on the players, it's on the coaches. The officials were

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Speaker 1: up and down. The coaching staff of the Texans was

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00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: up and down. The Houston players were up down. This game.

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Speaker 1: I said it early in the weekend. I've maintained it

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Speaker 1: that both school, both teams, the players and both coaching

1204
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: staffs and the officials were all over the map. All

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Speaker 1: they were both They were at one point brilliant and

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01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: at the other point they were horrible. You know, all

1207
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Speaker 1: of them were the players, the coaches on both teams,

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Speaker 1: and the officials, and it was just that's why it

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Speaker 1: was a one score overtime game. And it was I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was it was like a three and a half

1211
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Speaker 1: hour like, oh my, you can't take your eyes off it.

1212
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Speaker 1: Even when the Bills were up sixteen nothing. You didn't

1213
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Speaker 1: believe it, you know, you didn't think that well that

1214
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Speaker 1: saying that, saying that's it, it's all over. You know,

1215
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Speaker 1: you never thought that. And it was really compelling to watch.

1216
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Speaker 1: But it was also, like you said, everybody can look

1217
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Speaker 1: at themselves in the mirror and say, yeah, I help,

1218
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: but I also I was a problem too. Yeah. Absolutely,

1219
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Speaker 1: I mean you know, I mean as a football player,

1220
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I sit up here and I'm like, yeah,

1221
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: I know, I caused my team a couple of games

1222
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: by baby fumbling or dropping a pass or whatever. I mean,

1223
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: it happens, man, It happens in life and for everybody.

1224
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Speaker 1: That's really, you know, being kind of harsh on Josh Man.

1225
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: Don't put it just on Josh Man. It was if

1226
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Speaker 1: you go to every single player right now, they'll tell you, yeah,

1227
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: I didn't do this, I didn't do that, this should

1228
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: have been better or whatever. You think about you what

1229
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: do you think Matt Milano's thinking these days, it's like

1230
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Speaker 1: I had it right. I had Jean right there. I

1231
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: banged into him right. You know the same things. Um,

1232
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Speaker 1: Um the dB that came from the other side sand Neil,

1233
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: He's thinking that they're gonna think about that play forever.

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: You think, Um, Cody Ford, if I had just turned

1235
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Speaker 1: my back and just walked in front of the guy

1236
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: that had that blind sidelock, I wouldn't have been a

1237
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: blind side block. I just shielded him off. If in

1238
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: all the every single play, do they call it the

1239
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: helmet the helmet with right? Yeah, I let that guy

1240
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: run right by me to hit Rosh in the jar.

1241
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's a play for everybody in this game

1242
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: and thing and say, man, oh man, I wish I

1243
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: had that black And that's you gotta live with it.

1244
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: You gotta live with it. And you know what, I

1245
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: still believe in this team. I still think that coach

1246
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: McDermot and Brandon Being can get it done. You know

1247
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: this team is not that far away. Um, add some

1248
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: more spots. I think you add some more pieces. Obviously

1249
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: they might lose some more pieces, maybe on defense or offense.

1250
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean. But I'll tell you

1251
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: what I like the way that Josh is going. Just

1252
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: think about this. John still hasn't had three hundred yard

1253
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: passing game. Wow, still has not had a three hundred

1254
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: yard passing game. You don't think five yards of offense,

1255
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: you don't think you don't think that's eating at him? Yeah? Yeah,

1256
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean he wants to get that. I mean that's

1257
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: the type of player that I think he wants to

1258
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: be where you where he can goes out there and

1259
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: throw for three hundred yards and win a football game. Hey,

1260
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: he tried to do it here. Yeah, but when you

1261
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: really look at I mean, what happened to Beasley, what

1262
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: happened to John Brown? What happened to try tight ends?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think the one thing going into next

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Speaker 1: year that you're going to see a lot more of

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01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. Oh yeah, you're gonna see a lot more

1266
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: in this game. And you think you'd like to see

1267
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: him with like the twenty five right, just exactly one

1268
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: or one and a half more a quarter throughout the

1269
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: game would get you to twenty five touches and that

1270
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: you think, you know, that's where you need him to do.

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01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: And just imagine if that's fourteen, fifteen, sixteen games out

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Speaker 1: of the year. Right. I think this guy can do it.

1273
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: I think you can prove it um that he can

1274
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: play in this league. And you give me twenty three

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01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: to twenty seven points a game. Right, This team wins

1276
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: twelve with thirteen balls, they scored nineteen. They average nineteen

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: points a game. Right? Can we got him shocked that

1278
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: that's what all they can manage. I don't know. I

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: think there's room for improvement. I know there is. Yeah,

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01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: but that's what they did all year. He Yeah, they

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01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: did out the playoffs. Everything's ratchet it up, right, And

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01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this to the disappointing thing too. They

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01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: played the twenty eighth ranked defense, you know, and they

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01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: still only scored nine nineteen points. And so that's that's hard.

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01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: That's hard to get over. That's hard to get over. Now,

1286
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: on the flip side of that, you know what your

1287
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: defense finished, what third this year? Third this year? Now,

1288
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: if they dropped to eighth, a tenth or somewhere, that

1289
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: offense is gonna have to go up. Yeah, it has

1290
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: got to be in the top half of the league.

1291
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: It's got to be the top you know, do you

1292
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: get them in the twelve or thirteen even that's that's

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01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: as big a jump next year as they made this year.

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01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: And that's where you need to get. At least. I'm

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01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: still positive about the seame. Yeah it hurts you, Yeah,

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01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: it hurts. Yeah, it hurts big time. And I can

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01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: understand people you know, calling and said whatever over the

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01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: last three or four days. I mean, it's yeah, it

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: hurts because you know what, we still should be playing.

1300
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: We still should be playing and it and it gets

1301
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: you a week closer to possibilily of having that AFC

1302
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: Championship game here, I know, because everything fell into place.

1303
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: Same about how far away it seems, no, man, would

1304
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: you be pulling for that Dervan Thomason studio with its therm.

1305
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, Sean McDermott and m Brandon

1306
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: Bean held news conferences. They both accepted accountability for the

1307
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: loss last Saturday, and I thought, in particular Brandon Bean

1308
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: with you know he almost he almost wound up in

1309
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: tears voting for the media and in our show about

1310
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: apologizing to the fans, I think that goes a long way.

1311
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: First of all, that both accepted accountability and accepted their

1312
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: role in the loss and secondly know that that was

1313
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: a difficult loss. They feel it as many fans to

1314
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: guys already probably talking about what we need to do

1315
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: to get other people players in here, sure who we're

1316
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: gonna lose and would draft picks. I mean you talk

1317
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: about something like John said he had a chip on

1318
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: his shoulder. Well, I think Brandon bringed us too. Now, yeah,

1319
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: he wants to get this done. He wants to get

1320
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: this corrected because he sees the passion that the fans

1321
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: half of this football take and hey, look I love it.

1322
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: I love it when we had the passion, but now

1323
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's different now these fans this is

1324
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: their football team, right, this is their football team. Man.

1325
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: He wants for the generation. It's a different generation that

1326
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean wants to put that football out football team

1327
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: out there that all these fans around here that be

1328
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: out the airport at two o'clock in the morning, he

1329
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: wants to say thank you, thank you for believing us.

1330
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: He want to he want to bring a Super Bowl

1331
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: championship here to Buffalo. And you know, just when he

1332
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: before he got here, a lot of people said that,

1333
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to go to Buffalo. It's

1334
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: not the place that you want to be. Yeah, well,

1335
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: this loss right here hurts him and it hurts all

1336
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: of us. But Ben, I believe in these three guys

1337
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: and whoever the runs the Department of Scouting, pro Scouting

1338
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: or whatever, those three guys, I think they would get

1339
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: together and get this all solely ask you this. We

1340
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: got this Twitter poll. Who do you think? Who do

1341
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: you think needs to have a breakout year this year?

1342
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: We got shot. It's like Devin Singletary, Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmonds,

1343
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: or somebody else who I'm looking for seven Singletary. Yeah,

1344
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm going for him because I think you know, he

1345
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: had over you know, one hundred and fifty carries seven

1346
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: hundred seven yards miss what four or five games? Three

1347
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: games anyway, right, at least three at a boy week,

1348
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: but still and gained over seven hundred yards. Give me

1349
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: those three games season between eleven hundred and t und

1350
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: of yours rushing right and probably with a long what

1351
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: thirty to forty catches? Maybe even more right, some guy

1352
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: that's gonna be exciting for you, that's gonna take the

1353
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: pressure off of Josh. Now does his size limit how

1354
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: much they can use him. Um, you know what, I

1355
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: was watching the game very clothes. I mean they lined

1356
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: him out at wide receiver a couple of times, So

1357
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: that tells me I can rustle pretty good routes. Baby

1358
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: right right. Put him on the right situation with a

1359
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: linebacker or a strong safety or free safety. And but no,

1360
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: size does not bother me. With him being what five

1361
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: to seven eight, I'm not saying, you know, he's bare

1362
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: sanding with Barre standing with five five eight, Yeah, to

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: put him in that same thing that makes him able

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01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: to do it is his vision and it's hard to

1365
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: get a clean shot on him, and he makes guy.

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01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: The thing about Devon is, you know he stops and

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: starts like Barry did so well. I mean, he's just

1368
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: hard to get a big shot on. You see this

1369
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: play that we saw where the two guys had him

1370
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: and he just ends up running on the sideline. That

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: kind the thing says to me he can do things

1372
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: and last longer like a big back can because he's

1373
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: never gonna take never gonna take that hitt. He's he's

1374
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna dodge some things. He's gonna make guys miss. Where

1375
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: a big back who maybe not as a shift is

1376
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: not as shifty, will take some hits that he won't,

1377
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: so that gives him the ability to maybe stay in

1378
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: there in spots where smaller backs who don't have that

1379
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: ability cannot stay in. Yeah. The only thing that I

1380
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: fear for him being small is that you know how

1381
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: many blitzes will he take on per game? Right? You

1382
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: know that's be my only concern. My other concern is

1383
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: probably um when he's going for those extra yards. You

1384
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: always think about when guys go for extra out you

1385
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: might fumble, yeah, and takes. That's when you take shots too,

1386
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: when you're trying to get that extra yards. But I'm

1387
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: all in for him. I think he has a breakout

1388
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: season in twenty and twenty. I mean he's coming into

1389
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: next year he's going to be the guy. Oh yeah,

1390
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: he's going to be them guy. And if he continue

1391
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 1: to work out and I hear the great things about him,

1392
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: you know he's going to be a fantastic one in

1393
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: this league for a long time and hopefully here for

1394
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: the Bills. Got a few minutes left for Thurman, Thomas

1395
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back. If you have comments or

1396
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: questions for Thurm, phone lines open eight three fifty toll

1397
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1398
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: with them the step forward the Bills took this year, Thurman,

1399
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, the steps back where the Patriots took.

1400
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: Do you expect that the Bills are, you know, gonna

1401
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: win the AMC East next year? You think? Is it

1402
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: crazy to think that way? Why you're laughing? It's not

1403
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: crazy to think that way. No, I don't think. I mean,

1404
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: we still don't know the unknown of Tom Brady. I

1405
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: just cannot see Tom Brady being in another uniform. I

1406
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: know we said the same thing about Peyton Manning. He

1407
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: ended up in Denver. Yeah, Denver's looking for a quarterback.

1408
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: Maybe Peyton Mannon goes there. I don't know. Um, but

1409
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: I think overall, if we keep adding players and those

1410
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: players continue to be named Devon, Trumaine, Trey White, Micah Hide,

1411
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: guys that are constantly playing weekend in week out, making plays,

1412
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: if we can add two or three more of those

1413
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: guys from the first second round or free agents or whatever, yeah,

1414
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: I think the FC is their force. We can't go

1415
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: we can't go backwards. We definitely can't go backwards. Um,

1416
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: we need some playmakers on the offensive side of the ball,

1417
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: some big ones. I think we need a big wis

1418
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: I mean, we need a big wide receiver. I mean,

1419
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: there's been too many times this year where we have

1420
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: not mentioned, you know, Beasley and Brown because with those

1421
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: two guys, they get taken away. They get taken away sometimes.

1422
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: And I think we heard that too many times this

1423
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: year that that had happened. And the first time that

1424
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: it happened was probably what Philadelphia or was it Baltimore, Philadelphia? Yeah,

1425
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: And so teams look at that and how can we

1426
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: take these guys out of the ball game by playing

1427
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: man to man coverage right uptight on. I know the

1428
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: Bills threw the ball a ton against the Texans um

1429
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: but I think it was telling that he looked at

1430
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: the stats. You know, Singletary got seven targets, John Brown

1431
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: got eight, Cole Beasley got five, Duke Williams got ten ten,

1432
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: And that was I think a function of the fact

1433
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: that the Texans said, Okay, you're gonna we'll see if

1434
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: Duke Williams can beat us. Cole Beasley, John browning might

1435
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: have some targets, and he has some target and he

1436
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: also and he almost did if he pulls in that

1437
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: pass and almost did. He almost did. But that was

1438
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: the thought. And that's you know, people are saying, why

1439
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: didn't they use Beasley or they're not playing in a

1440
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: vacuum and Texans Romeo Coronella. So and that's what you're

1441
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: looking at, and that's why. And I've said it, and

1442
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: I've said it a ton, and I don't think a

1443
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver, big wide receivers of magic one's gonna cure everything.

1444
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: But good players make you better. And if you got

1445
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: a guy that's worthy of a double team on top

1446
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: of Cole Breasley and John Brown, well yeah, yeah, so

1447
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: we'll see. But I think you know they've got enough

1448
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: talent now we saw it. They could they could have,

1449
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: would have, should have almost beat a playoff team in

1450
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Right, they're good. Now, Now you can get

1451
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: another great player, a good player somewhere. Yeah, you're gonna

1452
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: get better, and you're not that far away. I don't

1453
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: know who that player is, but I don't whatever the

1454
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: next player to help us go, it needs to be

1455
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: on the offensive. That's all I'm saying. And the other

1456
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: games is this past weekend, your buddy Drew Brees suffered

1457
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: another really heartbreaking loss to lose the Minnesota the way

1458
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: they did last game again, last player again, I mean

1459
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: that it was it was offensive push off. Oh you

1460
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: don't want to see that call. No, you don't want to.

1461
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: You don't want to. Why not? Come on, man, come on?

1462
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: I mean if if that was a defensive guy, they

1463
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: would have called that play, if he would have been

1464
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: held in kylo, I mean, they would have called that

1465
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: player and put that ball at the one. Here's don't

1466
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: you think here's mine? Don't Okay, it was an offensive

1467
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: Just call it the same old I've been preaching on

1468
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: this all day. Just call it the same all the time.

1469
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: If you're not and they don't call they haven't called

1470
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: that all year. They never call that, So don't call

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01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: it there. If they never call it, don't call it.

1472
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: And if and if they call it that way in

1473
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: that spot, if the Saints would have gone down the

1474
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: other direction and did the exact same thing, don't call

1475
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: that one either. That's when people go crazy, is when

1476
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: they think that they'll call it once right here or

1477
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: not on a game winning t d and ot. If

1478
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: they don't call it there, certainly, don't call it in

1479
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: the first quarter of another game. You know, just call

1480
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: it the same all the time, and that's what drives

1481
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: me bonkers. It's two years in a row. Give a

1482
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: Saint some break. It's two years in a row. Give

1483
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: the Saints a break, would you please? Don't even one?

1484
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: Last year was worse than this, and then three years

1485
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Listen, you can't who you blame it for that,

1486
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: Who you blame it for that? You ain't blaming anybody

1487
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: but the guys for that. They a miracle in Minneapolis.

1488
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, they did that was like he went off

1489
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: the air. So yeah, I mean, you can't. You're not

1490
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna You're never gonna call that. And listen, and I've

1491
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: said this before you think about it. We're gonna be

1492
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: saying this until the Super Bowl. Let me Progno, there's

1493
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: gonna be some more calls coming up in the next

1494
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: couple of days about I'll tell what's gonna happen right now.

1495
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: That Baltimore game is gonna go down to the last

1496
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: wire and it's gonna be Baltimore playing defense and their

1497
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: dbs are gonna absolutely mug the wider. They're gonna hold them,

1498
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: interfere with them, illegal contact, all of it. On one

1499
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: play at the end and they won't get called. I think, okay, yeah,

1500
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: you could be right, but that's the way they play.

1501
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: But this but this game here, get the Titans in

1502
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: the ravel, this is gonna be They're gonna have to

1503
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: let this game be decided in the first quarter. Because

1504
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: Tennessee's while received, they're huge, they're big. It's gonna be

1505
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: physical all games. So you might you might not get

1506
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: that call, might not get Yeah, you gonna get that call.

1507
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: You know. Baltimore, and particularly in crunch moments when fourth

1508
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: downs and goal line stands and whatever you're in, when

1509
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: they go ultra ultra aggressive physical, they say, I don't

1510
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: think you are man enough to throw your flag. So

1511
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cheat. I'm gonna break the rule. I'm gonna

1512
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: do everything I can. They ain't gonna make this play,

1513
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to call a penalty if you

1514
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: don't want to stand, because I'm gonna do it. That's

1515
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: the way they play. And you can bet that'll happen

1516
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: against Tennessee this week in Baltimore. Particularly in Baltimore, they

1517
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: will absolutely mug those guys at crucial moments in the

1518
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: game and just dare him to make a call and

1519
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: that's that's their philosophy. I'm telling you that write that,

1520
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: write that down in the control room. They gotta tape

1521
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 1: back there, but just recording. We can always put it

1522
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: back up right that day. You know it's gonna happen.

1523
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 1: Last thing I got for you, Thurman, the last Bill's

1524
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: home game December twenty ninth against the Jets. You showed up.

1525
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: Steve's on the field doing his thing, his great thing,

1526
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: but you showed up in the Albert Debenion jersey attribute

1527
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: to the lad Dubie who passed away a couple of

1528
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: days before that. That was pretty cool. Yeah, well you know,

1529
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, absolutely have Yeah, And uh, you know,

1530
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: I've been doing it all year, you know, with players

1531
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: and and and I just started with just something and

1532
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: I talked to the people over here Jeremy, and can

1533
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: I get a jersey for that? You know? It was

1534
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: really cool. Uh yeah, it's uh, you know, it's something

1535
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: that I just I just like doing that. I just

1536
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: kind of showed appreciation. But this one was totally different. Man.

1537
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: I mean, awesome guy. Wall of famer, Um always heard

1538
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: nice things about him. It's just so I just feel

1539
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: like I had to do it and him when when

1540
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: he was a scout with Atlanta and Katies and I

1541
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: started doing games. He was just when. Yeah. Then I

1542
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: bumped into him on the train in Atlanta Airport and

1543
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: I recognized him and the Atlanta's airport going from plane

1544
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: and I get in and he's sitting there and I

1545
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: looked at it and he had a satchel on it

1546
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: with Atlanta falcons on he's and I looked at and

1547
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: I knew who he was really, and I said, and

1548
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: I went up to him and I said, hey, I'm

1549
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: I just want to hey, Golden Wheels. I just wanted

1550
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: to say hi. And he looked at me and started laughing,

1551
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 1: because you know, no, right, So I said, hey, Golden Wheels,

1552
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: I just want to say hello. Said I recognize you.

1553
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: Don't want to say you ain't forgotten, you know, And

1554
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: he and I he goes, he goes, you must He goes,

1555
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: you must be from somewhere. I said, I'm told him

1556
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: who I was. He knew who I was, obviously, and

1557
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: and we had a nice little small conversation there and

1558
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: he couldn't have been nicer, and he really appreciated me

1559
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: whispering to him, and it was it was pretty cool. Right.

1560
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: Always are great things about him. Man, you know, got

1561
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: to meet a couple of his grandkids. I think that

1562
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: we're here, Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah. It was great that

1563
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 1: the organization had took a moment to Yeah it was.

1564
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: It was Jake Steve's performance as the leader of the

1565
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: Charge that day. Oh it was nice. He was fired up.

1566
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is it you were fired up? Oh yeah,

1567
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: yeah heah, you know he flew Bruce in to be

1568
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: here for I did those guys shut up. You guys

1569
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: are like tourists with your phones like it's some home

1570
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: movie thing. You're all like little baby gonna do his thing,

1571
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: baby shark. All right, when you come back or we

1572
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: know to you aga until er, what's the deal, I'll

1573
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: be back, all right. I'll be bad if you If

1574
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: you have any run ins with celebrities, you know, we

1575
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: all say, yeah, I got you, got you. I did

1576
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: run into celebrity. Um Nick Bryce. You don't know Nick Price? No, sorry,

1577
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 1: the golfer Okay, oh yeah, yeah, he's big time, big

1578
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: time exactly New Year. He's like he's like a little

1579
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: maybe a little younger than me, but yeah he was

1580
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: oh major man, I said and talked to him for

1581
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 1: like two hours. Really, where were you New Year's Eve

1582
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: in Florida? Okay, in Florida? So yeah, that's cool, all right,

1583
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: count at another celebrity house. But I ain't gonna mention him. Yeh,

1584
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: come on, don't leave. I was just joemto drag Racer.

1585
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: You see it. You don't know anything about drag race.

1586
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 1: Thanks Sir Thurman Thomas, Hall of Famer, joining us in studio.

1587
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: Steve and I coming back One Mill's Live presented by

1588
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,439
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1589
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: Nothing comes close One of Mill's Live. Jomber Steve Tansker

1590
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: from our One Buffalo Studio. Happy to have you with

1591
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: us here today. Thanks to Thurman Thomas for joining us.

1592
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 1: Should we rehash Thurman's little segment that we just had

1593
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: or is it worth doing? Well? Yeah, I mean he

1594
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: was a good segment. Start start hashing and I'll decide

1595
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: whether we should rehash. You can feel that no matter

1596
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: who you're talking to, whether it's Ross Tucker earning the show,

1597
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, you and me, the callers, everybody's pretty high

1598
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: on where this team is headed. Oh yeah, but I

1599
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: know that loss. I we can't get beyond it. Everybody

1600
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: wants to talk about the Houston And here's the thing

1601
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: about it. Here's why, here's why you can't beyond it,

1602
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 1: get beyond it. Why it's like, get smart. He missed

1603
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: it by that much. Yeah, I guess we've had close

1604
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: losses before. Your team specialized in close losses, bitter losses. Yeah,

1605
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: fifty two to seventeen. Did people again eyes over each

1606
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: one of your Super Bowl losses like this? I guess

1607
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: that first one different different time, And people are and

1608
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 1: people are equating this tough loss with some of the

1609
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: losses we went through, like the Ronnie Harmon drop in

1610
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: ninety nine, the wild card round, and the next year

1611
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: that team started its four run of four straight super Bowls.

1612
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: And I've said, and I said said it this morning

1613
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: to somebody out in the control room, that team that

1614
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm not in the current back in somebody else in

1615
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: the building, that team that we were on that went

1616
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: to the four straight Super Bowls and all that stuff.

1617
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm I maintained to this day we would never have

1618
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: gone to four straight super Bowls had that kick not

1619
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: gone wide right in super Bowl twenty five. Because I'll

1620
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: tell you what that physically hurt. I was sick. That's

1621
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: the only time I really felt physically ill after a

1622
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: loss was that game. And because of that pain, and

1623
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: you've heard Sean McDermott mention it, you turn that pain

1624
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: into fuel and growth, and that's what that team did

1625
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: the next Super Bowl. They went back to Super Bowl

1626
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: twenty six, where they lost the Redskins. The latter parts

1627
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: of that regular season, the pressure was so intense in

1628
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: our locker room, on ourselves, in our coaching staff, in

1629
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: our building, in our tight little family, close knit group,

1630
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: the pressure on ourselves was so intense. I've never been

1631
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: around anything like it. And we did get back to

1632
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl, but it was because of the pain

1633
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: we felt in super Bowl twenty five after that kick

1634
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: went right wide. You know, so people are equating this

1635
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: tough loss to the Texans in the exact same way

1636
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: they hadn't kind of fueling this team going forward. And

1637
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things to be happy about, you know,

1638
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: a lot of things to look forward to, and I

1639
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: think the fact that it was such a painful loss,

1640
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna you gotta count on these guys

1641
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: being the right DNA to say, you know, it's gonna

1642
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: help us. It's hardest guard to go through to get there.

1643
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: But that's just the way you gotta live. And I think, yeah,

1644
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: I can't disagree. I I'm ready to move on. Doesn't

1645
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: make it feel I'm ready to move on. I feel

1646
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: like no one else is ready to move on. So

1647
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm kind of getting snagged and returned back to Saturday's game.

1648
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: We'll move on to three thirty or four this saftern Yesterday,

1649
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers introduced their new head coach, Matt Rule.

1650
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: He comes over he spent a year at UB As

1651
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, under Craig Service. He was part

1652
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: of his coaching staff at University of Buffalo, but Matt

1653
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Rule comes over from a couple of years at Baylor.

1654
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: Had a good year this past year. Before that, he

1655
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: was head coach at Temple. As we mentioned, he mentioned

1656
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: that he is interested in bringing back Cam new Is,

1657
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: their quarterback. He did talk about a couple of things

1658
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: and the decision to jump from the college ranks to

1659
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. Here's what Matt Rule had to say, Coach,

1660
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: you had a great thing at Baylor. Why did you

1661
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: want to go to the NFL? And it's It's really

1662
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 1: simple to me. I start every I start every decision

1663
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 1: in my life with why, and I'll tell you this.

1664
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: And I love the game of football. I was a

1665
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: kid that grew up in New York City and and uh,

1666
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, basketball all around me and since something from

1667
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: an early age, I love the game of football. My

1668
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: mom would when my dad was working. My mom would

1669
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: take me out and I would say, now, as I

1670
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: ran a flyer out and should throw the ball as

1671
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: far as she could and I wouldn't go over and

1672
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: try to catch it. My dad once twice a year

1673
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: would drive me to Pennsylvania, to Penn State and watch games.

1674
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: I love the game of football, and football has done

1675
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: so much for me in my life. I was able

1676
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: to go to Penn State and was not a great player,

1677
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: but I was able to to to in some small part,

1678
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: contribute to that team. I was able then to go

1679
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: on and get my master's degree because of football. I

1680
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: was able to get into coach. And football has brought

1681
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: me in all these places to meet all these people,

1682
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 1: and it's brought me here today. It's a special game.

1683
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: It's the greatest game that there is. You walk into

1684
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: a locker room, there's guys of all ages, there's guys

1685
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: from all different parts of the country. There's guys of

1686
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: all shapes and sizes. Yet they come together to form

1687
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: a team and play the hardest game that there is

1688
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: to play. They play in bad weather, they play when

1689
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: they're injured, they play when they don't feel great. They

1690
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: find a way to get it done as a team.

1691
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: It's the greatest game that there is. And as I

1692
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: sat here and was trying to make a decision about

1693
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: my life, I said to myself, Matt, what do you want?

1694
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: And I want to go and be a part of

1695
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: the greatest game at the highest stage. And I just

1696
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: had to figure out where. Matt Rule, the new head

1697
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: coach at the Carolina Panthers, there was some inspirational words.

1698
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: He was a walk on linebacker red Penn State and

1699
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: became a player there and made a good career for himself.

1700
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about him and never heard him

1701
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: speak before that news confert just today. I was impressed

1702
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: with Matt Rule. Yesterday it really was. You can tell

1703
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: too that you see little Sean McDermott in there. You

1704
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: know guys who can stand up and command a room

1705
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: and are very confident in what they have to say

1706
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: and very prepared. Part of what he was talking about

1707
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: there is this being the best game ever, you know,

1708
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: the greatest game. There is part of what makes it

1709
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: being the greatest game. There is what he said as well,

1710
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of guys doing something together, collective accomplishment.

1711
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 1: I've always said this too, and some of the places

1712
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: I've gone to and speak and some of the young

1713
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,879
Speaker 1: people that I've spoken to, I always say that collective

1714
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: accomplishment is way more satisfying than individual achievement. To do

1715
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: things on a larger scale with more people involved, include

1716
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: more people, be a part of more people is always

1717
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: more rewarding than an individual achievement because you get to

1718
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: share it and to share it with guys, like he

1719
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,560
Speaker 1: said of in the locker rooms that I was a

1720
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: part of. We had guys from north, south, east, west, rich, poor, black, white, old, young,

1721
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: prominent players, great players, elite players, and just guys. They

1722
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: all contribute and the fun part of it is when

1723
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: you get a group of guys like that where everybody

1724
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: appreciates stuff about everybody else and to go and accomplish something,

1725
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: and it's really gratifying when you do it against a

1726
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: group of guys on the other sideline that you know

1727
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: are really good. You got a lot of respect for

1728
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: them too. You know they're good too, And it's there

1729
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: is something about that that football had hits all those

1730
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: he checks all those boxes in the biggest way, and

1731
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: that's why it's so enticing, not only just to watch

1732
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: for the regular fan, but that's why it's really intoxicating

1733
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: for guys like forty two year quarterbacks who don't want

1734
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,839
Speaker 1: to leave. You know, you got Drew Brees and Philip

1735
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:49,520
Speaker 1: Rivers and Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger

1736
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: who just blew his elbow out, had surgery. He still

1737
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: wants to play. You Sometimes you get guys that love

1738
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,879
Speaker 1: it so much you got to priam out with a crowbar.

1739
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: That's how intoxicating it is. Joe Montana was carried off

1740
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: the field his last time, Jim Jim Kelly was carried

1741
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: off the field his last time. Steve Young was carried

1742
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: off the field his last time. They don't want to leave.

1743
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: That's how awesome it is to be a part of it.

1744
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: And guys like Matt Rule who become head coaches, part

1745
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: of the reason they elevate to that level because they

1746
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: command a room like that. And I've we've laughed about it.

1747
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: It's an NFL assistant coach or head coach. You want

1748
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: to talk about a tough crowd, stand in front of

1749
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of pro athlete, pro football players and try

1750
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 1: and command that room. Takes a special guy and looks

1751
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: like Matt Rule is one of those guys who can

1752
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: do it. Really, you got all that from his news company.

1753
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: You think he's phased. That's the That's the thing. It's

1754
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: hard not to be phased by standing up in front

1755
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: of room or they're looking at you and they're not.

1756
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Here's this big question. It's gonna be what do I

1757
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: do with Cam Newton? Is Cam Newton gonna be okay?

1758
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: Is he not gonna be okay? That will that, more

1759
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: than anything else, will determine a rules success or failures

1760
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: in NFL head coach. I believe I would respectfully disagree.

1761
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: I see your point. I acknowledge you know you're right.

1762
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: That's a that's a key component. But here's the thing.

1763
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: The real component is this, if he has what it takes,

1764
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: will David Tepper give him a chance to figure it out?

1765
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: If he gets right? Got a seven year deal, he

1766
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,560
Speaker 1: should have some some tenure, but again, who knows what

1767
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: that camp And take it from a guy who's who's

1768
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: just one more, one more, you know, rock on the

1769
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: gravel road of the NFL. When Cam Newton's there or

1770
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: when he's gone, Carolina Panthers going to roll on. Yeah,

1771
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: but will they roll on successfully without a quarterback? That's

1772
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: the quick It doesn't matter if he If they can

1773
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: be successful with or without him, that's the key. And

1774
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Cam's may be a part of it. He may not,

1775
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: but they can. Teams have won games without guys like him,

1776
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: and Cam's Matt rule is the bigger question mark than

1777
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. The court of the head coach is the

1778
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: bigger part of the puzzle than Cam because no matter

1779
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: even if it's Cam Newton for four games or six

1780
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: games and they make a change or what the way

1781
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: he handles the entire situation, the way that team rules

1782
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: on and how he handles it. And he has an

1783
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: audience of one, and that's David Tepper, you got, and

1784
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: Tepper hired him, and that's the way all these these

1785
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: teams are. They hire that guy because they know he's

1786
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: going to navigate waters like that. He's gonna come up

1787
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: with a plan. He's gonna work that plan and stay

1788
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: with it or scrap it and adapt to a new plan.

1789
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: But we've seen all these head coaches come into the league.

1790
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: None of them have done it the same way. But

1791
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of guys who have been successful.

1792
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be up to David Tepper to hang

1793
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: in there with Matt Rule. Let's see if they can

1794
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: turn it around. And it's not just it's not just

1795
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's also it's like Luke Keikley, is he gonna

1796
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: be there him? He's been in and out of the

1797
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 1: lineup with injury. I mean they've got all you know,

1798
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: Revere was not successful for way more than just Cam

1799
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: Newton's in there or out of there. So I think

1800
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: I go back to what you know I learned from

1801
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 1: my days as a broadcaster. When the owner told me,

1802
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: he goes, how do you pick a coach? He says,

1803
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,959
Speaker 1: you've hire the smartest guy you can and you support

1804
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: him till he figures it out. And the owners like,

1805
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: I don't have to figure it out. He's got to

1806
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: figure it out, and I got to support him until

1807
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: he does. And if David Tepper can do that. Matt

1808
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: rule by first impression right here. Yeah, I'd give him

1809
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: a lot of time. That's a big If we're gonna

1810
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 1: take a break, We've got more to come. One Goes

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01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: Live presented by Klata Health from the Seneca Studio. This

1812
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. One Goes Live, John Murphy, Steve

1813
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: Tasker Coming up at two today. Will Brinson from CBS

1814
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: Sports dot Com will join us talk about the other

1815
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 1: playoff games, a divisional playoff games coming up this weekend.

1816
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,560
Speaker 1: A question of the day, Which Bills player do you

1817
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: think we'll have a breakout season in twenty twenty? That's

1818
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: a question we put up on Twitter. Put it up

1819
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: there for votes on the Twitter poll. And let's take

1820
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: a look at a Twitter poll as we speak right now,

1821
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,799
Speaker 1: which Bills player do you think we'll have a breakout

1822
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: season in the twenty twenty campaign? Right now on Twitter?

1823
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Forty seven percent of you say it'll be Devin Singletary,

1824
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: He'll be in his second year as a running back,

1825
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. Thirty eight percent say quarterback Josh Allen, eight

1826
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 1: point five percent say it'll be Tremine Edmonds, and seven

1827
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: percent say somebody else. We got eleven almost twelve hundred

1828
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: votes in what do you think give us a call?

1829
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: Eight h three h five fifty to three one eight

1830
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. On the tweet sheet,

1831
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: we asked the question which Bills player do you think

1832
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 1: we'll have a breakout season in twenty twenty? Tweet sheet

1833
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers

1834
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. What do you see? There's yeah

1835
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: from Willie, he says, I think Josh might have already

1836
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: had this with what he did for Brown and Beasley.

1837
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: I expect if they draft a stud wide receiver, it'll

1838
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: be that guy. So he thinks there's a guy that's

1839
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: not yet on the roster that's going to emerge as

1840
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: as the go to guy. Also from Robert on the

1841
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, I picked other. I think Harrison Phillips or

1842
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: Matt Milano will have a breakout season next year. If

1843
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: Harrison hadn't gotten hurt this year, he probably would have

1844
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: had a great season, and Milano has kept getting better

1845
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,879
Speaker 1: and better each year. There's plenty of plenty of candidates,

1846
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: no question about it, and there's a lot of reasons

1847
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: to feel really optimistic about a lot of them. Harrison

1848
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: Phillips is a big unknown because he got to come

1849
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 1: back from the bad injury from the from the ACL

1850
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: but he looked poised to have a He didn't. He

1851
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: look poised to have a breakout season. It was in

1852
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: the process. I haven't one I think Harrison Phillips before

1853
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 1: he got hurt. To be honest with you, he surprised me.

1854
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think much of him after his rookie year.

1855
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's in with the starters. He'd

1856
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: taken over the starting spot in the middle of the

1857
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: defensive line, and he's making plays. I thought he was

1858
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: having a breakout year before he had the responsibility of

1859
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: calling all the pass pass stunts, pass rush stunts. So yeah,

1860
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 1: that it was. They were sad to see it, but

1861
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: it'll be nice to see what he can do when

1862
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: he does return. One more from the tweet sheet from

1863
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Tiffany ed Oliver really came on the second half of

1864
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 1: the season. I can see him taking his game to

1865
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: the next level. He really fits our defensive concepts. He's

1866
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 1: a team guy. Also, when he wasn't starting, he kept

1867
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: working and earned significant playing time down the stretch. I

1868
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 1: think ed Oliver took some steps in that direction. I

1869
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: think I think he may have impressed some of his

1870
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: teammates who were concerned whether he had the right frame

1871
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,560
Speaker 1: of mind to be a player on this team and

1872
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: this is kind of a different team, and he showed

1873
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: them as the season went along that he was he

1874
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: was the kind of player they could count at, which

1875
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: is really what they're looking for. Yeah, you talk about

1876
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: a guy I think if you're looking at the first

1877
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: year players, and Devin Singletary would probably fall into this,

1878
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: but almost you almost think ed Oliver made the greatest strides.

1879
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: And from what we've heard some of it was he

1880
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 1: really was a different guy early in the season emotionally

1881
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 1: and his personality in the locker room. It really took

1882
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: him a while to open up and really think that

1883
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: feel like he was a part of what was going

1884
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: on here. And when that happened, his game took off.

1885
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: He was more receptive to the coaching, to the other

1886
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: players around him helping him out, and he became a

1887
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: much better, more comfortable I think as a pro later

1888
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 1: on in the second half of the season, and I

1889
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: think it showed in his play and I would look

1890
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: for him to Yeah, I'm kind of with these people.

1891
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: I can see him taking a step forward next year

1892
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: as well. We'll get more in this which Bills player

1893
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: have a breakout season next year. In the third and

1894
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: final hour of the show, We're gonna talk with a

1895
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 1: special guest. Coming up in the third hour of the show,

1896
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 1: also from CBS Sports dot Com, we'll talk with Will

1897
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: Brinson about this weekend's NFL Divisional playoff games. All of

1898
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: that coming up in our number three One Bill's Live,

1899
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,560
Speaker 1: presented by Kalada Health from the Seneca studio. This is

1900
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network. Sports update update

1901
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: comes from One Bill's Drive. The Buffalo Bills now watching

1902
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: spectators as the division around of the playoff begins this weekend.

1903
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings already we're without Stefan Diggs for two days

1904
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: this week and now Adam Feeling suffered an ankle injury

1905
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: and practice yesterday. He cut his ankle required stitches. His

1906
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: overtime catch set up the Vikings for their win against

1907
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: the Saints in the NFC Wildcard game on Sunday. Feeling,

1908
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 1: listed as limited on the team's injury report, was not

1909
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: seen walking off the field following practice. The Vikings today

1910
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 1: at practice do have Stefan Diggs back. He said he

1911
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 1: had the flu. That's why he missed a couple of days.

1912
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 1: He says he'll be fine. Matt Rule introduced yesterday as

1913
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: a new head coach of the Carolina Panthers. He did

1914
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: not rule out having Cam Newton as his quarterback this year.

1915
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: Newton recovering from left foot surgery. There's uncertainty about how

1916
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 1: long the recovery will take. He's entering the final year

1917
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: of his contract. He was the two fifteen NFL Most

1918
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Valuable Player. There is speculation the Panthers might try to

1919
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: release Cam Newton and save nineteen million dollars under the

1920
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: salary cap. During his introductory news conference yesterday, Matt Rule

1921
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: said that he needs time to study the rooster. Talked

1922
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 1: to general manager Marty Arney and owner David Tepper about

1923
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 1: long term plans as they pertain to Cam Newton. Meantime,

1924
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 1: Joe Judge being introduced as we speak as an ex

1925
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: head coach of the New York Giants or press conference

1926
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: going on in New York City today. Sabers play at

1927
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: Saint Louis tonight eight o'clock. Faceoff at Enterprise center Michael

1928
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,879
Speaker 1: Frowleague will make his Buffalo Sabers debut tonight. He's expected

1929
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: to skate on the line with Marcus Johanson and Connor

1930
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: Sheery after picking up wins in their last two meetings

1931
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: between these teams, The Savers looking for their first win

1932
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: at Saint Louis since December of two thousand and nine.

1933
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Faceoff is eight o'clock tonight and San Jose Sharks top

1934
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: scorer Logan Couture is expected to miss up to six weeks.

1935
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: He broke an ankle in Tuesday night's game, the Shark's

1936
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: loss at the Saint Louis Blues Cotur was in a

1937
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: walking boot. After the game, he awkwardly slammed his left

1938
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: leg into the end boards in the second period. He's

1939
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: thirty years old, fourteen goals twenty to assist thirty six

1940
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: points to lead the San Jose Sharks. And that's the

1941
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steep Tasker

1942
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 1: we begin our number three of the show and happy

1943
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: to have on the line with us CBS Sports senior

1944
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: NFL right Or the host of the Pick six podcast,

1945
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 1: Will Brenton on the line with us Well, John Murphy

1946
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: and Steve Task were up here in Buffalo. Thanks for

1947
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: coming on with us today. Yeah, guys, thanks for having me.

1948
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 1: Hope everything is going well. I know the season ended

1949
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: a little prematurely, but you know, I think we talked

1950
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: about this before the year started, right, And because Pete

1951
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: Pisker came on my podcast and said that Buffalo is

1952
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,719
Speaker 1: gonna win the division in twenty twenty, a year before

1953
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty even showed up, I feel like that's not

1954
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: an unreasonable prediction and it might actually be sort of

1955
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: a trendy thing to do this offseason. Yeah, and it

1956
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: certainly they felt like they were in every game. They

1957
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 1: had one game against the Philadelphiagles earlier in the season,

1958
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: but every single game that got into was a single

1959
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 1: score game and they were ten and six in those games.

1960
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they for the season, and you got to

1961
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: like some of what they did, but the inconsistencies really

1962
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 1: in the even in that wildcard game or what got them. Yeah,

1963
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And look, I mean Sean mcderman

1964
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: had been to the playoffs before, but you know, Josh

1965
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 1: Allen first time making it there. Yeah, this is a

1966
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: situation where I'm not I mean I think it's Look,

1967
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: it's tough to go on the road and to beat

1968
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: a fellow playoff opponent. It is tough to play a

1969
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: guy like de Shaun Watson, who has shown again and

1970
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: again that if you give him a tiny little crack

1971
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna come flying through it and pull off something

1972
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: magical and you know whether it's possibly being sacked and

1973
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: spinning around and making plays. I think this is a

1974
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 1: part of the learning process and part of a building

1975
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: block for a team that is young. And I mean,

1976
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: I really think when you look at Buffalo and what

1977
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 1: they've done over the last couple of years, to me,

1978
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: and I made this argument a few weeks ago on

1979
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: our podcast, is that I think Buffalo is like if

1980
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: you're this is a weird argument to make, but if

1981
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: you were dropped from outer space and you're like, Okay,

1982
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 1: you have no prior fandom whatsoever, and you've got to

1983
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: pick a team, but you're not picking it based on

1984
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: like uniforms or like who's trendy. You're picking it based

1985
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: on like fundamentally sound organizational principles and great building blocks

1986
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: with tons of upside. I think the Bills would be

1987
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: a top ten team in terms of who you were selecting.

1988
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: Why does that loss hurt so much? Here will? Why

1989
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: do so many Bills fans walk around with their heads

1990
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: hanging today? Well, sixteen it was sixteen? Oh right, I

1991
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: know it was thiteen. Oh at one point, yeah, he's

1992
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen. Oh, you're up sixteen. Oh. It feels inevitable

1993
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 1: that you're gonna win the playoff game. I think that

1994
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: speaks a lot, and I think Sean McDermott will come

1995
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: away with some learning lessons. I think actually that that

1996
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: game is going to be a learning lesson for Andy Reid,

1997
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's old mentor, because he's going against the Shawn

1998
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Watson this weekend and Andy Reid is showing a proclivity

1999
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: in the past to sort of take his foot off

2000
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: the gas when he gets a lead. You cannot do

2001
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: that against the Shawn Watson. I thought the Bills were

2002
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 1: a little too cautious at the end of the first half.

2003
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: I you know, I there was some clock mismanagement. I

2004
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: think you can call it just in terms of maybe

2005
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: being aggressive. Try to go down, get some shots in

2006
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 1: the end zone, you know, try to score a touchdown,

2007
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: because look, those four points matter. The difference between a

2008
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 1: touchdown in a field goal. And I think if you

2009
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: go back and you get to twenty one nothing at halftime,

2010
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 1: that game's over. And that seems sort of simplistic. But

2011
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,799
Speaker 1: I think maybe a more aggressive approach in those playoff

2012
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: spots would have resulted in Buffalo moving on. And yeah,

2013
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 1: it hurts, I mean all playoff losses hurt, I think,

2014
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: But to me, it's a this is a big reason

2015
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,560
Speaker 1: for optimism in Buffalo. Yeah, And so you talk about this,

2016
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, the Houston texts of the team moving on,

2017
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: they moved to Kansas City. Are they built to go

2018
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 1: into Kansas City and win? No? I don't. I don't know.

2019
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they are. And here's here's

2020
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: my issue with it, is that when you think about

2021
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 1: the game script and how that that matchup between Buffalo

2022
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 1: and Houston played out, Buffalo was aggressive early. Brian Dabele

2023
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: had a fantastic set of play calls dialed up in

2024
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 1: the first two series. To pass back to Josh Allen

2025
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 1: from smoke Smokey John Brown was a tremendous play call.

2026
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 1: Even the pass is a bit of a duck. We'll

2027
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: give him a pat you know, We'll give him a

2028
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 1: freeb on that he's a he's a wide receiver. Um.

2029
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: But I think what you saw was an aggressive approach

2030
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: early on offensively from Buffalo. That's really smart. That's what

2031
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: Andy Reid is going to have with Patrick Mahomes and

2032
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 1: the plethora weapons he's out there in Kansas City. The

2033
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: problem for Houston, in my opinion, is that they like

2034
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: to come out and run with Carlos Hide and Duke

2035
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: Johnson on early downs and then look around when they're

2036
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: either third and long or they're down big and say,

2037
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: hey to Sean, if you could wave your wand and

2038
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 1: do a bunch of the things you do where you

2039
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: run around, you make plays, you sprint for touchdowns and

2040
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: escape sacks. It shouldn't be escapable and make crazy passes,

2041
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: do all that stuff, and let's get out of here

2042
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: with the w that'd be great. Thanks do that. That's

2043
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 1: not going to work against Kansas City. They have too

2044
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 1: much firepower. And I think that, you know, as good

2045
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: as I think, their secondary probably not up on the

2046
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,560
Speaker 1: same level as Buffalo's, but a very good secondary. And

2047
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: I just think that Kansas City's defense as a whole,

2048
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 1: playing at a top ten level over the past seven weeks,

2049
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 1: over the full season, and they're gonna surprise some people

2050
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: with their performance. To me, this could end up looking

2051
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: a lot like Casey versus Indie last year, where the

2052
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: prevailing notion was in a sort of a nasty weather

2053
01:41:56,240 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 1: game that Indie Frank Wright and Quentin Nelson and Andrew

2054
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: Luck and Marlon Mack could go up there and pound

2055
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 1: the ball and be physical and scare the Chiefs and

2056
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: they just ain't gonna happen up there. I guess. I

2057
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,600
Speaker 1: guess the question I have about Kansas City, and I

2058
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: think they're they're gonna win that game, but I don't

2059
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: fully trust their defense. I know they played better second

2060
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: half of the season, but I would worry about the

2061
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: Kansas City defense if I were a Chief fan. No,

2062
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: nothing to worry about. What do you think, Well, I

2063
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't say nothing to worry about. I mean, you know,

2064
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: they're not They're not the eighty five Bears or like

2065
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: the Steel Curtain or anything. But just the way that

2066
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: they sort of got going in terms of their pass rush,

2067
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: like Chris Jones on the inside, is such a disruptive presence.

2068
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: If Frank Clark starting to really earn that contract they

2069
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: gave him. He's been getting a ton of pressures off

2070
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: the edge. Additionally, the wan Thornhill injury that could be

2071
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: that's something to really watch. Second round safety out of

2072
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: out of Uva, playing excellent football as a rookie. He's

2073
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: suffered a torn acl so they obviously lost him for

2074
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Hope to get him back

2075
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: for the start of next year. But the addition of

2076
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew on that defense, and just the way like

2077
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Basha Brelan's playing really well at cornerback. He had a

2078
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: huge play against the Patriots. Everyone remembers guarding Julian Edelman.

2079
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 1: This team has the personnel and they just to me, guys,

2080
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the two thousand and six Colts,

2081
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: where the stereotype was that they didn't have a very

2082
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: good defense, that they were sort of soft. They played

2083
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 1: that Tampa two coverage. They did have Bob Sanders on

2084
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: the back end as a Defensive Player of the Year candidate,

2085
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,560
Speaker 1: but like they didn't it just it just it was

2086
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 1: sort of there and you sort of liked them. But

2087
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it just clicked down the

2088
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: stretch and it really got going in the playoffs, and

2089
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 1: I could see Kansas City sort of being like that, like,

2090
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 1: oh man, like where did this? People are gonna be

2091
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 1: like where did this defense come from? Over the next

2092
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: three weeks, and if Patrick Mahomes plays well, the couple

2093
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 1: that with that defense could be a really dangerous combination.

2094
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 1: We're talking to Will Brinson, CBS Sports senior NFL writer

2095
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: and also host to the Pick six podcast. I gotta

2096
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Speaker 1: ask you again about another the other a FCS matchup

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Speaker 1: when the Titans go into Baltimore and these two teams

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Speaker 1: run the football a lot. I mean, this game may

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Speaker 1: be over in about two hours, but with a running clock,

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01:43:55,960 --> 01:44:00,879
Speaker 1: but it's this is gonna be a heavyweight, physical, dirt, filthy,

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Speaker 1: ugly game, right yep? I think so really interesting point

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Speaker 1: made by my colleague and you guys know him really well,

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco on the podcast, and it'll be up on

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Speaker 1: Friday's edition. I think we recorded at Wednesday because Pete's

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Speaker 1: actually going to Kansas City to cover stuff for CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports HQR twenty four seven streaming sports network that I'm

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Speaker 1: required to plug on all radioheads them. But Pete pointed

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01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: out he went back and watched the twenty twelve Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl between the Ravens and the forty nine Ers. And

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Speaker 1: what's interesting about that game as it relates to this

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Speaker 1: Titans Ravens matchup, is that then Ravens defensive coordinator Dean

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Speaker 1: Pas was charged with coming up with a plan to

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Speaker 1: stop Colin Kaepernick, who was operating in then forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman scheme. Now Dean Pas is

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Speaker 1: with the Titans and he's charged with stopping the Ravens

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01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, who's being coached by Greg Roman. So it's

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Speaker 1: a really interesting like historical chess match here. And as

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Speaker 1: Pete pointed out, and it's a great point, Like I

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Speaker 1: look again, I'll give full credit for it. You know,

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Speaker 1: Peas used Terrell Suggs is sort of a stand up

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01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 1: edge rusher who would chip tight ends and really you know,

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01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 1: get physical with him with the line of scrimmage and

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01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: then watch the mesh point to see what Colin Kaepernick did.

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Speaker 1: And now Kaepernick ended up having a good game in

2125
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: that in that Super Bowl, ram for seventy two yards

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01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: in a touchdown, three hundred passing yards bad percentage, but

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Speaker 1: it was mostly in comeback time. Remember they were down

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01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: twenty eight to six, And so the question is can

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01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 1: the Titans defense utilize Harold Landry in that same sort

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01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: of positional you know, stand up edge rusher, watch what

2131
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,639
Speaker 1: Lamar does, Try and force him to let mark Ingram run,

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01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 1: Like you want to let mark Ingram. If mark Ingram

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01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: doesn't play, it's even better for them. You know, let

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01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 1: Justice Hill, let mark Ingram, let Gus Edwards beat you.

2135
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: Don't let Lamar Jackson beat you power Rashaan Evans do.

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01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 1: In terms of operating the Ray Lewis role, it's tough,

2137
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: tough shoes to fill. And then don't sleep on Jeffrey Simmons,

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01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 1: the interior pat the interior defensive lineman who has been

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01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: playing lights out. I think he towards ACL in the

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01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: draft process, has come on strong. The other thing to

2141
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,839
Speaker 1: me in this game is in this sort of simplistic

2142
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: and dumb, but I really think it's true, whoever leads

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01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: after the first quarter is going to win this game.

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01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 1: If somebody gets a fourteen nothing and they can run

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01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: Downhill on the other team, that team is going to

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01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 1: come out of here with a win. Like if the

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01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Titans are down fourteen nothing, I think they get blown

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Speaker 1: out because they'll just be on their heels. Lamar will

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01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: be able to use the mesh point, He'll be able

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01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: to throw it down the scene to Mark Andrews, and

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01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens will roll in this one. If the Titans

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01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: can stop Lamar early and get Derek Henry going downhill

2153
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 1: against at Ravens defense, I think they can go in

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01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 1: there and pull the upset. I know Lamar's on his

2155
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: way to the MVP Award, but he was pretty awful

2156
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: last year in his lone playoff appearance for the Ravens. Right.

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01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 1: That can't be forgotten totally, can it? Yeah? No, I

2158
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: was sitting there. There's pictures on the internet of me

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01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: with my Philip NC state guy. Philip Rivers had a Philip.

2160
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: My wife bought me a Philip Rivers doll for Christmas

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01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: last year. Tom Fernelli's suggestion, So I'm like sitting there

2162
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: with the doll, like watching the Chargers everything that they

2163
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 1: could get they could get a win, and they did

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01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 1: get one. There Foxburg not so kind to them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be curious because what in what kind

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01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: of you know, can a unique defensive scheme slow down

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01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. To me, he is a vastly better passer

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Speaker 1: than he was last year. And it's not just his

2169
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 1: development as a player, it's also you know, Greg Roman

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01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 1: now the primary offensive play caller. He has better weapons

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Speaker 1: around him. And remember he jumped in midstream and you

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01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 1: know when when Joe Flacco was hurt and he took

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01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: over and they had a sort of revamped that offense

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01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 1: to try and get you get Lamar. Give him a

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01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: chance to get the offense going without asking him to

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01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,799
Speaker 1: run a full, full throttle NFL offense where he's passing.

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Speaker 1: And now they just have so many creative plays built

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01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 1: into this new offense that I don't think we'll see

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Speaker 1: the same Lamar from the playoffs. But if DMPs and

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01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 1: that Tights defense can scheme it up, I mean you

2181
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 1: can slow him down. We saw the Chiefs do it

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01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,599
Speaker 1: against him earlier in the year. We've seen some teams

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Speaker 1: have success, and so there is a chance to slow

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01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 1: him down. He is he is a special unicorn athlete,

2185
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: but he is not unstoppable. Do you think this game

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Speaker 1: is you know, twenty eight to thirty or eight to three.

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01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it'd be eight to three, but I

2188
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 1: think it's like eighteen thirteen so so, look, I think

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Speaker 1: I think you're right on the mark. There's team I

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01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 1: think it's a low scoring, physical you know, like you

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01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: can you can you can picture the game in your mind.

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01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's on CBS. You can see like nasty,

2193
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 1: like steam coming out of everybody's mouth. You know, you

2194
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: like just the color schemes between the teams. MT Bank Stadium,

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01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 1: you can like, you can feel the violence and the

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01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 1: nastiness of it. It seems like a very very fun

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Speaker 1: divisional round game. Will brenton our guests, he's CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: senior NFL writer. Let's get to the other playoff games

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Speaker 1: in the NFC and the late Saturday game San Francisco

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01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: at home against Minnesota. I'm not so worried about Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo's first playoff start. I think it's the San Francisco

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01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 1: defense that would worry me if I were a Vikings fan.

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01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 1: What do you think, Will, Oh, yeah, the biggest thing

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01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,560
Speaker 1: that would worry me is is Adam Thieland's ankle. You know,

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01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: he looked fantastic, well, he looked. He looked bad in

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01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 1: the first quarter and had a horrible fumball and had

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01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: a bad drop and then he came on and had

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Speaker 1: the catch down the field that set up the game

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Speaker 1: winning score to Kyle Rudolph played really well in the

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Speaker 1: final three quarters and did a good job of that.

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01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's questionable seeing not limping around, but like

2212
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 1: sort of walking generally around practice. That's a major concern.

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01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,799
Speaker 1: I think Delan and Cook, Dalvin Cook make that offense

2214
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: go and for me guys, the big concern is that

2215
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 1: when you look at the Vikings offensive line, it's been

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01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 1: better than people give it credit for. I think, especially

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01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 1: in the run game. It's the pass game where it's

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01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: a problem. And if you can make Minnesota one dimensional

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01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 1: and you can take away their play action passing, that's

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01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 1: where they thrive is play action and utilizing the bootlegs

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01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: that come in that Gary Kubiak scheme, letting Dalvin Cook run,

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01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, on the one cup moves. When when they

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01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 1: get the play action out of there, what happens as

2224
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: you get that Week sixteen game against Green Bay, they

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01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: read one play action passed in that entire first half.

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01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: They're getting slaughtered by Zadarius Smith and Preston Smith and

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01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 1: pass protection and the same thing will happen if they

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01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: aren't able to establish that play action asking game that

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01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins thrives off up. I think he's the best player,

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01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,639
Speaker 1: maybe I'll say second best play action passer in the NFL,

2231
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 1: behind Russell Wilson. To me, if you can get that going,

2232
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 1: that will keep the forty nine ers defensive line on

2233
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: their heels a little bit and prevent them from really

2234
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 1: getting after Cousins. If you don't get it going and

2235
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 1: they feast on that offensive line, San Francisco a role

2236
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 1: here no matter what Jimmy g does, and I think

2237
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you, the offensive line of the Vikings

2238
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: is the really key component because there's not very many teams.

2239
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,600
Speaker 1: I bet there's nobody that the Vikings of face that

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01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 1: are as athletic and big and sized like San Francisco

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01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 1: as they got all those first rounders up there, and

2242
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: athletically they're just superior to everybody. So no matter what happen,

2243
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to play action every

2244
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: single snap, so sooner or later they're gonna have to

2245
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 1: one on one some of these big matchups, and I

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01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 1: don't know that they can hold up even in the

2247
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 1: running game, where they've been better than they have in

2248
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 1: the passing game, even their running game, they're gonna they

2249
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: may get physically dominated up front by San Francisco's front seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think this is one of those you know,

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01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 1: talk about the Titans and the Ravens and who needs

2252
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,680
Speaker 1: to have a lead early. I think the Vikings have

2253
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 1: to be aggressive early here. Like I would come out

2254
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: and throw screens to Dalvin Cook early. You know, I

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01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't be afraid to you, Like, I don't think they

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01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 1: need to get cute with those little wide receiver into

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01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 1: rounds and let Stefon Digs pass it. Maybe just stop

2258
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: doing that altogether because it didn't work last week. But

2259
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: you need to find a way to alleviate that pressure

2260
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,560
Speaker 1: and to be able to get a quick strike like

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01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 1: I would bootleg Cousins a ton because that we saw.

2262
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 1: We've seen that work against San Francisco. Now they they'll adjust.

2263
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 1: I think we saw Russell Wilson maybe was the forty

2264
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: Night happen to the forty nine ers at a primetime

2265
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: game and I'm trying to remember exactly what it was,

2266
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:37,560
Speaker 1: but they basically got bootleg to death early on, and

2267
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 1: I think that's what the Vikings should do in the

2268
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: first quarter. You screens to Dalvin, you know, run them

2269
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 1: on some draws out a shotgun if you get like

2270
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 1: third and six or something like that, and then bootleg

2271
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: Cousins on some play actions and what you do. Remember

2272
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 1: Cousins came up running this scheme with the Washington Redskins

2273
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 1: because the Shanahan's had it there. I mean, now there's

2274
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: a a little bit of coaching edge there too. Kyle

2275
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: Shanahan knows what Kirk Cousins likes and what he doesn't.

2276
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: You can run that. You run the you know, run

2277
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 1: the bootleg action and then have theeling and digs and

2278
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph flood and give Kirk Kirk Cousins as high

2279
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: to low reads and let him make the easy, simplistic

2280
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: throws that can prevent just a pure pass rush from

2281
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 1: getting after you. I think if they do that, and

2282
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: I think they will try to, then you can see

2283
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings get out early and if they get comfortable.

2284
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 1: Cousins are very much a rhythm passer, get comfortable and

2285
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: you can see them succeed the rest of the game. Hey, well,

2286
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 1: the other NFC game, the late game Sunday Seattle at

2287
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: Green Bay. This is maybe the feature matchup of the

2288
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: weekend right, featuring the best two quarterbacks this weekend probably Yeah,

2289
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: what is it? Thirty one career playoff starts for Russ

2290
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers and then like five for the other guys.

2291
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 1: We've seen. Yeah, we've seen these guys a lot. Yeah,

2292
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 1: we have. And I mean, let's not forget like the

2293
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 1: might you know, I think it's fascining that Mike McCarthy

2294
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 1: era is starting in Dallas now. It probably ended in

2295
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. Apart to Russell Wilson and the Seahawks,

2296
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 1: the the Packers lost three straight games from in twenty

2297
01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen fifteen on walk off losses in the playoffs,

2298
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 1: including that overtime NFC Championship game loss. Like that just

2299
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 1: eats away at a at a team's ability to you know,

2300
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: get back off the mat. I have questions about the Saints. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah,

2301
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 1: like if you I mean, like at some point you're

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01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 1: just like, man, like come on, like that's enough is enough?

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01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 1: And um, and so I think that I think it'll

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Speaker 1: be curious to see, like will Aaron Rodgers have any

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01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 1: sort of revenge on his mind? Um? Maybe more importantly though, uh,

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01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: look at look at the two games for the Packers

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01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 1: this season against the forty nine ers coach by Robert Sala,

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01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: a former Seahawks defensive coordinator or a defensive coach, and

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01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: against the Chargers but coached by Gus Bradley, a former

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01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 1: Seahawks defensive coordinator. Those were Aaron Rodgers and Matt Laflour's

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01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: two worst games on offense by far this year. They

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01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 1: look horrendous. We sort of pended on the you know,

2313
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 1: on the West Coast thing. There's talking about maybe being

2314
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 1: feeling a little rough the next morning after a night

2315
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 1: out in La. They got manhandled on a Monday night

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01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. They're gonna see in the same scheme here,

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01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: and you have to wonder is that is that just

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01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 1: sort of something where it's just an inherent mismatch in

2319
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 1: what Lafleur does and what Pete Carroll lis a round

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01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 1: with that cover three zone that the Seahawks can sort

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01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,679
Speaker 1: of attack with. And if that's the case, I wouldn't

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01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 1: be surprised to see g David Clowney have a big

2323
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 1: game in this spot. I think he smells a big

2324
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: monster contract coming his way. I know he had that

2325
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,719
Speaker 1: hit against Carson Wentz, but he played really well against Philly.

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01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 1: I feel like Seattle's defense could really st stifle excuse me,

2327
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 1: the Packers offense a little bit here. And if that's

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01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: the case, you know, I don't think. I don't think

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01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 1: either one of these teams are gonna blow the other

2330
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 1: team out just because they're two. They're just gonna play

2331
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 1: to a one score game. But I could certainly see

2332
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: Seattle going in there and winning. Hey, one more thing

2333
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 1: before we let you go, and it's back to the

2334
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 1: AFC East kind of our what we focus on, help

2335
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 1: us sort out what might happen in New England? What

2336
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 1: do you think happens with Tom Brady? Do you have

2337
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 1: any early thoughts on does Brady stay? Does he go?

2338
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 1: Does he retire? What do you think are people talking

2339
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady? Is that like a thing, the only thing,

2340
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 1: the only thing aboy's talking about, right, Um, it's it's fascinating.

2341
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody. I don't think Tom knows.

2342
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill Belichick knows. I don't think Bob

2343
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: Kraft knows. I know, I don't know. I do I

2344
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 1: do think this. You know, if you're in New England,

2345
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 1: well you're really looking at like. First of all, I

2346
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: think the coaching, the coaching hiring cycle has help helps

2347
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 1: New England and Tom Brady a lot, because it does

2348
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 1: look like at least now, and I don't hope this

2349
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 1: is itting wrong in three hours, but it does look

2350
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: like Josh McDaniels could end up being back in New England.

2351
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a big plus for Tom Brady for

2352
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,879
Speaker 1: bringing Tom Brady back. You want to keep some continuity.

2353
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: You lose Joe Judge last year, you lose Flores Matt

2354
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 1: Patricia out the door recently. They need some continuity here now.

2355
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 1: The question is will Bill Belichick break, you know, break

2356
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: his typical approach and pay up a little bit for

2357
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, get him some more money, go get him

2358
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 1: some weapons, and if you know, if they're not willing

2359
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 1: to do that, um, will you look at Tom and say, hey, Tom,

2360
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 1: go out there and see what you can find. I

2361
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 1: think Tom Tom Brady will have a very robust free

2362
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: agent mark, There's no doubt about it. The question is

2363
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 1: is there going to be enough money out there from

2364
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: someone like the Chargers or the Raiders, the Cults and

2365
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: then the Dolphins or a team that's sort of being

2366
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: floated out there. That'd be an interesting fit certainly. You know,

2367
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: does he want to try to go win? Is he

2368
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: is he trying to get a Super Bowl without Belichick?

2369
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: Is he trying to build his TV twelve brand in

2370
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 1: the West Coast or in South Beach? Like is what

2371
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: matters more to him? Here? We know that he's an intense,

2372
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 1: fiery competitor. I think at the end of the day,

2373
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, something gets done and he goes back

2374
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 1: to New England because there's no surefire answer for the

2375
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 1: Patriots and they still have a window there. But you know,

2376
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: there is the possibility there that he ends up in

2377
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 1: a Chargers powder blue. I just can't I can't fathom

2378
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady being like, you know what, I really like

2379
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 1: this job I've been at for twenty years. I'm gonna

2380
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 1: spend a year at the Chargers, you know, where everything

2381
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 1: is very functional and works nicely and they never waste

2382
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 1: any talent. Yeah, well, you didn't answer my question. You

2383
01:56:56,520 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 1: raise about thirty other questions. I know, I think Tom

2384
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: Brady stays, and I think Tom Brady wants to stay,

2385
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 1: and it's it's all about Belichick. And if I'm not

2386
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna tell you I can get inside Bill Belichick's brain.

2387
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 1: I wish I could. I did, I did. I have

2388
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: a couple of Super Bowls. Thanks Will, good to talk

2389
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: to you. Will, Thank you very much. Yeah, guys, have

2390
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: a good take. Princeton, CBS Sports senior NFL writer, the

2391
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 1: host of the Picks six podcast. Nobody knows what's gonna

2392
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 1: happen with Brady in New England, right, I mean, that's

2393
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 1: fair to say, and I would just tease him about that,

2394
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 1: but he admits he can't figure it out. Nobody knows

2395
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 1: what Belichick's thinking. Nobody knows what Brady's thinking, and I

2396
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: think he's correct too. And I think, you know, people

2397
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 1: say it, but I don't think they. I don't know

2398
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady has decided yet what he wants to do.

2399
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what options he feels are the best

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01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 1: ones for him and his family. Bill Belichick, who knows

2401
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: how he feels personally about Tom Brady and professionally about

2402
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, because I think it's probably two different things.

2403
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: And we all know that Robert Kraft would is the

2404
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 1: last guy who's gonna I think, let Tom Brady just

2405
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 1: walk away without having something to say about either matching

2406
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 1: an offer or making one last plea to have him stay.

2407
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 1: And you put those three guys in the equation, and

2408
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 1: along with all the other variables, the other teams who

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01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 1: would be interested, and what's available, and what quarterbacks are

2410
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna move. There's no way to predict. It'll be what

2411
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 1: we do for the next several months, guessing and plus

2412
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 1: watching you stick needles into your Tom Brady Doll. We

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01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 1: got a break heare One Bills Live, coming to you

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01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:36,839
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Archer Park. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bill's five jomb Urphy received tasker.

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Speaker 1: You got time to take a few bone calls here

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Speaker 1: eight three fifty toll free one eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Maybe you'd like to answer our Twitter pole

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01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 1: question in twenty twenty, who's gonna break out for the

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01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. A couple of notes here. Mike Malarkey, former

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01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: Bill's head coach, this past year, served as the Atlanta

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01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 1: Falcons tight ends coach, as announced he's retiring from the

2423
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: NFL fifteen years in the coaching ranks. Prior to his

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01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 1: lone year as Atlanta's tight ends coach, Malarkey he served

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01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: as the Falcons offensive coordinator two thousand and eight through

2426
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven. He was the Bills head coach

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01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four. I have that writer. Was

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01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: it three? That was? Four? Yeah? Four? Two thousand and four,

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01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, two years as Bill's head coach

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01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 1: before he declined to return for a two thousand and six.

2431
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Also was the head coach of the Tennessee Titans for

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01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 1: a while. Combined thirty thirty six and fifty three record

2433
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 1: in those six seasons. Mike Malarkey announcing his retirement from

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01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. He seems like he's a young guy. I

2435
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 1: think he's probably early sixties. Maybe. I think he's about

2436
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 1: my age. We were contemporaries. He hit me up once

2437
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,920
Speaker 1: in a game, he let you up. Oh yeah, who's

2438
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 1: it playing for Minnesota? Okay, oh that's right. Yeah, yeah,

2439
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 1: he got me good. And so I think he's a

2440
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 1: contemporary with me. Late fifties or sixties here, good guy. Yeah.

2441
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:07,800
Speaker 1: I thought he was a good Hey, this is gonna

2442
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 1: mean I'm maybe an unpopular opinion. I thought he's a

2443
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 1: pretty good head coach, and I thought he had promised

2444
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 1: as the Buffalo Bill's head coach. He was kind of

2445
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 1: caught up in a cycle of dysfunction here and they

2446
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 1: wanted to bring Marv Levy back. Marv wanted to be

2447
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 1: head coach and Malarkey was a little bit worried about that,

2448
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 1: so he elected to leave. But I thought he was

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02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 1: a good head coach. I thought he did a pretty

2450
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: good job here. Yeah, there was, Yeah, it was a

2451
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:35,240
Speaker 1: list of people who left the organization voluntarily. John Butler

2452
02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 1: was the first one, well, Bill Polian, John Butler, Marv

2453
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 1: came and Marv left voluntarily the first time and then

2454
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:48,280
Speaker 1: the second time after he was GM, Mike Mularkey, even

2455
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: Doug Marone opted out of his contract. So it was

2456
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 1: a long string of that that of stuff that you know,

2457
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:57,800
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a team that was struggling

2458
02:00:57,840 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 1: to get it right. This one was for a long

2459
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,960
Speaker 1: It was tough. Are tough years? Yeah, well four oh five.

2460
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 1: We wish him well. I like Michael lark Antony's a

2461
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 1: pretty good guy and though he's a pretty good coach.

2462
02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 1: Let's play NFL Tour falls right. NFL Tour or Falls.

2463
02:01:10,120 --> 02:01:13,040
Speaker 1: It is brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

2464
02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 1: artists and cheese, true or false? Running the football now

2465
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 1: rules in the NFL. Now it's good to run the

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02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 1: football again. There are a lot of rushing top rushing

2467
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs this year. There remain a couple

2468
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 1: of good rushing teams in the playoffs this year. Is

2469
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 1: running the football the way to go in the NFL?

2470
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you think? I'd say yes,

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02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 1: I'd say true. The four teams that led the league

2472
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:38,879
Speaker 1: in passing this year yardage wise, are not in the playoffs.

2473
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 1: The four teams that led the team league in rushing

2474
02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. And they're still in the playoffs.

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02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,800
Speaker 1: That's the first time since nineteen seventy that has happened.

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02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 1: But I think with the Baltimore Ravens, the Tennessee Titans,

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02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:54,720
Speaker 1: and the Seattle Seahawks, even the Minnesota Vikings, the teams

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02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: that have done it well and done it well and

2479
02:01:56,680 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 1: have played had really good seasons have done with the

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02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:03,120
Speaker 1: running game as much, if not more than the passing game.

2481
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:05,160
Speaker 1: So I would say yeah, I think running the football

2482
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 1: still is the nuts and bolts of why a teams

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02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 1: are successful. I'm gonna say false. I think you're looking

2484
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: for balance. I think you can run the ball and

2485
02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 1: make the playoffs and have success. You can pass the

2486
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 1: ball and have success. And I think either way works.

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02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:21,160
Speaker 1: If you do it well and move the ball effectively,

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02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:23,440
Speaker 1: you will win. And I don't know if it's a

2489
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 1: question of saying, oh, we're gonna run the football and

2490
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna win. I just don't think that's that easy.

2491
02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying false on that the NFL. This is part two,

2492
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 1: True or false. The NFL should adopt the XFL's comeback period.

2493
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 1: You know what that is. In the NFL, the game

2494
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 1: clock stops after an incomplete pass when a player runs

2495
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 1: out of bounds at the two minute mark during the

2496
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 1: second and fourth quarters. In the XFL, which starts play

2497
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 1: a week after the Super Bowl, the clock will continue

2498
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 1: to run except during the final two minutes of each half.

2499
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 1: During that period, the clock will stop after every play. Essentially,

2500
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 1: the team that has the lead won't be able to

2501
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 1: run out the clock, and the team that is trailing

2502
02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 1: will have a better chance of orchestrating a comeback. You

2503
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 1: wonder why they doesn't do this right now, I'll tell

2504
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:04,200
Speaker 1: you why, because it would extend the games too long.

2505
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 1: So no, I think this is false. The NFL should

2506
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 1: not adopt the XFL's comeback period. Oh you think it's

2507
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 1: because do you think the games will last like three

2508
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 1: twenty instead of three fifteen? Right? Yeah, So you don't

2509
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 1: like that, you don't like the idea, that's right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the idea, but you're right. It

2511
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:21,200
Speaker 1: would make the games go longer, particularly at the end

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02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 1: of the half, and I think they shouldn't do it

2513
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. They should do

2514
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:26,400
Speaker 1: it only at the end of the second half and

2515
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 1: for the last three minutes, not the last two minutes.

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02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 1: So I would say, yeah, I kind of like the idea,

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02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:34,480
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. They would have to do something

2518
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 1: so that I'm not sitting there watching the one o'clock

2519
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 1: game get over at five thirty. Yeah. Right, it's it's

2520
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: a great idea, but I functionally, I don't know that

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02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 1: it would work. And lastly, when it so, you say true,

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02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 1: I'll say true. Okay. Lastly, in NFL True or False

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02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 1: Part three, the Steelers, it is claimed and an article

2524
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: on CBS sports dot Com the Steelers would be the

2525
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 1: best fit for this summer's hard knocks. First of all,

2526
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers would want that to happen.

2527
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they would co operate, but it is

2528
02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 1: said that you could get an inside look at how

2529
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin runs the team, get a front row seep

2530
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: to Ben Roethlisberger's return his rehab. I don't know. I

2531
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 1: think there are better options. By the way, I think

2532
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: hard Knocks might be an idea whose time has come

2533
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 1: and gone. I would say false to this, that's not

2534
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I don't think, and I don't think they'd

2535
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 1: be the best fit. Well, here's the thing. There's only

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02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 1: a handful of teams that cannot say no, and Steelers

2537
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:30,320
Speaker 1: are one of them. I think they're probably of the one.

2538
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 1: And I can't remember the ones that are last shooted,

2539
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 1: but the ones that are left, I think the Steelers

2540
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:36,480
Speaker 1: are the most interesting. And I think because of Ben

2541
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and his return and the fact that they are

2542
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 1: a franchise that is a national franchise. I think for

2543
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 1: the television side of it, yeah, absolutely, it's the Steelers.

2544
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't know how interesting it's going

2545
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:52,080
Speaker 1: to be if anybody with any team, but I would say, yeah,

2546
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 1: I think Steelers are the one. The team that I

2547
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 1: think most people would want to watch because it's a

2548
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:58,240
Speaker 1: it's an iconic franchise that has done things right for

2549
02:04:58,280 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 1: a long time, and they've got something to prove and

2550
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,920
Speaker 1: people like that, and I would like to watch that. Okay,

2551
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 1: there you go, NFL two or false brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yancey's, Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese. We have

2553
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left here. You got time to

2554
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 1: weigh in on our question of the day for the

2555
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, Who's gonna break out next year? Let's take

2556
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,640
Speaker 1: a look at the Twitter poll. It's been fairly one

2557
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 1: sided so far. We asked the question on a Twitter poll.

2558
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 1: We asked the question, who will be the Bills breakout

2559
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 1: player in two twenty? Who do you think will break

2560
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 1: out and be the guy who everybody's talking about after

2561
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:33,720
Speaker 1: the two twenty season is over? And on Twitter half

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02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: of you or more. Now it's up to forty seven

2563
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 1: percent say Devin Singletary running back Devin Singletary would be

2564
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 1: the Bills breakout player in twenty twenty. Thirty eight percent

2565
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 1: say Josh Allen, eight percent say three Main Edmonds, seven

2566
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 1: percent say something else. I don't think, can I just

2567
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 1: find fault with I don't think folks are giving us

2568
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:55,760
Speaker 1: enough thought because mostly because you disagree with me. I

2569
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 1: think it's Terrain Edmonds. I really think he's gonna have

2570
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 1: a breakout year next year. That's just my thought. I

2571
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:03,080
Speaker 1: appreciate forty seven percent. I think it's kind of a

2572
02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 1: reflex reflex, not reflex reflex, Devin Secretary Boom, he's the guy.

2573
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I don't know how much

2574
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 1: more he will do next year. To be honest with you,

2575
02:06:11,120 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 1: will you get more carries? Yeah? Will he get more yardage?

2576
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:15,200
Speaker 1: Maybe a little more. How much more does he have

2577
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 1: to give? We'll see. What do you think it'll look

2578
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 1: like with Tremainette? What do you think it looked like?

2579
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:21,800
Speaker 1: If Tremaine Edmonds has a breakout year, what's that going

2580
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 1: to look like? I think the Bills defense will be dominant,

2581
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:25,920
Speaker 1: and they were close to dominant most of the year.

2582
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 1: But I think Tremine Edmonds, says, the physical ability coupled

2583
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:31,360
Speaker 1: with now the knowledge as he gets into his third

2584
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:33,800
Speaker 1: year calling this defense, not just playing in it, but

2585
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 1: calling the defense, I think he will be the dominant

2586
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 1: player in a very dominant defense. I think that's what

2587
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 1: it'll look like. I mean, they were, they were really

2588
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 1: good this year. Were dominant. Do you think they were dominant?

2589
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:47,320
Speaker 1: They nobody was scoring very many points on him, and

2590
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 1: they would have looked they would have looked dominant had

2591
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:53,120
Speaker 1: the Bills scored six more points on average per game,

2592
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:56,200
Speaker 1: just two more field goals, let alone a touchdown and game.

2593
02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I just don't think there's that

2594
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 1: much more hire to go for that defense I think

2595
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 1: is a ways to go. I think he's going to

2596
02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 1: get better. Oh, I think so too. I think he'd

2597
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:10,200
Speaker 1: got way better this year as well, no question about it.

2598
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know that that will flash and everybody

2599
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:15,760
Speaker 1: will say, Wow, this guy really is a different player

2600
02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:17,960
Speaker 1: than he was the last year. Some people, you know,

2601
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 1: aren't as sold on him as we are. But from

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02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:24,040
Speaker 1: what I just yeah, I mean, I get it, and

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02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm certain certainly if he does have a breakout year,

2604
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:28,120
Speaker 1: no matter what it looks like, there will be people

2605
02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:30,840
Speaker 1: who notice. But I think for me, and I think

2606
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:34,080
Speaker 1: so too, that if for me, most of the guys

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02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 1: out here, if they make it to an all pro level,

2608
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:38,440
Speaker 1: like Tredavious White, I would say despite the fact that

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02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 1: he has been good for three years. This year was

2610
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 1: his breakout year because he tied for the lead league

2611
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 1: and interceptions, he never gave up a touchdown in coverage

2612
02:07:46,680 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 1: and is a first team All Pro. That's a bust

2613
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 1: out year. I agree with that. So I think if

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02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:53,680
Speaker 1: you're going to talk about Tremaine Edmonds doing that, yeah,

2615
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: I think it would be because I think he makes

2616
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 1: some splash plays on primetime games. Like if the Bills

2617
02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 1: have two or three primetime games, a four o'clock Sunday game,

2618
02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 1: a Monday night game, a Sunday night game, and he

2619
02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 1: splashes on all those games. Yeah, I think he might

2620
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 1: have a breakout year and get All Pro and Pro

2621
02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 1: Bowl accolades. Let's take a phone call here from Carl

2622
02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 1: in Clarence. Hello, Carl, around the air. It's going well. Thanks.

2623
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:18,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to say. I just wanted to say that

2624
02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters if they all have breakout years,

2625
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 1: if Josh doesn't. Until he stops throwing that ball five

2626
02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 1: yards passed, the receivers on the long passes will never

2627
02:08:29,600 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 1: go anywhere. I mean, he's not even close. And I

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02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 1: just wanted to make one other thing about he's close.

2629
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 1: A lot. He's close a lot more than you would

2630
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:39,839
Speaker 1: give him credit for, I believe. Yeah, on the long passage,

2631
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 1: he's close. Go ahead, Carl. What's your other things that

2632
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:48,440
Speaker 1: I really believe that. The third and eighteen on the

2633
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:53,440
Speaker 1: playoff game, again we got screwed. A guy hid the ball,

2634
02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: third of the second passes the clock time, I honest

2635
02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:57,320
Speaker 1: see why they can't put a chip on the ball

2636
02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:02,240
Speaker 1: to see if we're hip the ball, passa forty second

2637
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:09,280
Speaker 1: cock and one more thing the touchdown. Three years ago,

2638
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 1: South Carolina State did the same thing in the end zone.

2639
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 1: The guy tossed the ball on the ground. They were

2640
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:18,920
Speaker 1: a little touchdown for Clumston. Yeah. I mean there's you

2641
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 1: can go down the list, and I appreciate you stopping

2642
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:23,920
Speaker 1: there because we're running out of time, but because there's

2643
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:26,360
Speaker 1: like six other plays that you could also say that

2644
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 1: we're the difference in that game too. That's that's where

2645
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:31,000
Speaker 1: we lived all year, and it's hard to say goodbye

2646
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 1: to it because when you think about how many plays

2647
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 1: would have made a difference in the game in Houston,

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02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:37,640
Speaker 1: there's about four or five other games during the regular

2649
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 1: season which would have given the Bills the number one seed.

2650
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:42,960
Speaker 1: Had those plays gone the other way, I mean, that's

2651
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:45,320
Speaker 1: just how close they were. So if you're telling me

2652
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:48,520
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen needed to complete one or two more

2653
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 1: balls over the course of that game and all of

2654
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 1: a sudden the Bills or without doing that, the Bills

2655
02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 1: have no chance, I'm saying you're crazy. By the same token,

2656
02:09:57,800 --> 02:09:59,800
Speaker 1: you're right, technically speaking, it should have been a free

2657
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 1: time down at the beginning of the second half. And yeah,

2658
02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:06,360
Speaker 1: that play with the delay game on the snap that

2659
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:10,160
Speaker 1: happens three times in every single solitary NFL game all year.

2660
02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:12,440
Speaker 1: Because of the mechanics of the way they call it,

2661
02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:15,760
Speaker 1: they never want that. The football people don't want it called,

2662
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 1: the coaches don't want it called. The competition committee doesn't

2663
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:21,640
Speaker 1: want it called that closely. So when the thing goes

2664
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 1: to zero, the play clock behind the play goes to zero,

2665
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 1: the inneficial goes from the zeros, moves his eyes down

2666
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 1: to the play where the ball is snapped, and if

2667
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:33,200
Speaker 1: the ball is being snapped right as he does it,

2668
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 1: even though technically it was after the play went to zero,

2669
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:38,280
Speaker 1: they don't call it. And that's what happened on the

2670
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 1: play in Houston against the Bills. I think that was

2671
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLoud the South Carolina Clemson the game he

2672
02:10:44,680 --> 02:10:46,200
Speaker 1: was talking about too. I think it was Ray Ray

2673
02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:48,879
Speaker 1: who flipped the ball the official and they called a touchdown.

2674
02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 1: Again college game. It's a small world. I know there's

2675
02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:56,880
Speaker 1: no response for you there. I just thought i'd throw

2676
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:58,400
Speaker 1: that out there. We got a break here, We're coming back.

2677
02:10:58,440 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 1: One Bill slide presented by CALLIP A lot of health

2678
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo

2679
02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. What have we learned from today's show? Brought

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02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:21,720
Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company on

2681
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What have we learned? We had Ross

2682
02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:26,760
Speaker 1: Tucker around the show. Ross Tucker, of course, former Bills

2683
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 1: offensive linement, does a lot of media work and he

2684
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 1: was really pulling for the Bills in their game at

2685
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 1: Houston last Saturday. He talks about the loss of the

2686
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:38,680
Speaker 1: Houston Texans in the AFC Wildcard Game. Ultimately, I think

2687
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty disappointing. You know. I think it's time for

2688
02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:46,640
Speaker 1: the Bills and Bill's hands to raise their expectations. You know,

2689
02:11:46,720 --> 02:11:48,320
Speaker 1: I felt like a couple of years ago they were

2690
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:50,080
Speaker 1: happy to be in the playoffs. I felt like this

2691
02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: year they really felt like it was time to win.

2692
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they had clinched the playoffs a while ago.

2693
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:59,160
Speaker 1: It was their time, and I thought that it was

2694
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 1: their turning to get to win. And obviously, when they

2695
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:05,320
Speaker 1: were dominating up front both sides of the ball sixteen nothing,

2696
02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 1: I thought that they were going to get it done.

2697
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:11,800
Speaker 1: I did two. Also on the show today, Thurman Thomas

2698
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer talked about running back Devin Singletary of

2699
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and now he could be the breakout

2700
02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 1: player in twenty twenty. You know, he had over you know,

2701
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:25,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty carries, seven hundred and seven yards

2702
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:28,560
Speaker 1: miss what four or five games? Three games anyway, right,

2703
02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:31,600
Speaker 1: at least three had a bye week, but still and

2704
02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:34,720
Speaker 1: gained over seven hundred yards. Give me those three games.

2705
02:12:34,840 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 1: He's in between Loom eleven hundred and twelve hundred yards

2706
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:41,120
Speaker 1: rushing right and probably with a long what thirty to

2707
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:44,240
Speaker 1: forty catches maybe even more right, some guy that's gonna

2708
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 1: be exciting for you. It's gonna take the pressure off

2709
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 1: of Josh. Now I'm all in for him. I think

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02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:51,120
Speaker 1: he has a breakout season in two thou twenty. M

2711
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:53,560
Speaker 1: mean he's coming into next year, he's going to be

2712
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:55,960
Speaker 1: the guy. Oh yeah, he's going to be the guy.

2713
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 1: And if he continued to work out and I hear

2714
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 1: the great things about him, know he's going to be

2715
02:13:00,680 --> 02:13:02,520
Speaker 1: a fantastic one in his league for a long time

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02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 1: and hopefully here for the bills through Here you go. Hey,

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's show, we got a good one, great co sal

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock, we got Lorenzo Alexander at two, and

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Speaker 1: we got your buddy Phil Simms from the NFL on

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Speaker 1: CBS at twelve thirty. You get some thoughts on Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen from Phil Simms. Huh, he's been He liked him

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Speaker 1: from the beginning, he said coming out of Wyoming. He

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Speaker 1: liked him. He liked he didn't believe all the stuff

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Speaker 1: about the accuracy and all the upside. He thought the

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Speaker 1: upside was great and and he continues to to like

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Speaker 1: what he sees from him. So we'll get a chance

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Speaker 1: to have him dissect his throwing motion and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Phil Simms tomorrow on the show. Production

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Speaker 1: assistance today, George Blast, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Honalder, Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: jj Urito, Kevin Krgis, James robol Our, producer Jay Harris

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Speaker 1: see tomorrow with One Bill's Life presented by Kalada Health

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Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio at One Bill's Drive. This is

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