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<v Speaker 1>presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome into the Monday Morning Podcast. Well, well, well we

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<v Speaker 1>have quite a news bomb to drop. Tom Brady's coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>So Nick Wright is my guest today. I interviewed him

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<v Speaker 1>before this news came down. I'm going to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>in the interview because I suspected Tom had about five

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<v Speaker 1>percent chance to return, and I'm going to discuss it

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll see Nick's reaction. But I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>edit it out. I don't like to edit out stuff

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't have to. I'm going to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>in during the Nick write interview and you'll hear it

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<v Speaker 1>in about fifteen minutes. So let's start with this. I

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<v Speaker 1>have gone over this two or three times on my

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<v Speaker 1>national radio and TV shows. Days are very long. You

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<v Speaker 1>sleep seven I sleep seven hours a day. I work

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<v Speaker 1>out for an hour, I eat for an hour. I

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with my wife, I read, I listen to music,

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<v Speaker 1>I take naps, and that's about eighteen and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got seven left. And I had said this with

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady. He's going to hang out with his kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But if your kids have a life, they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out with their mid forty year old dad

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I got kids. My daughter's twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>she lives, you know in Hollywood. Honey, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go for lunch. She's got like seven options. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even call me back half the time. She shouldn't. She

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<v Speaker 1>has a life. My son, he's got friends. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Once kids get the thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that they don't love dad. They got options.

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<v Speaker 1>And Gizelle isn't some stay at home mom. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>supermodel with a eight nine figure annual income. She's plenty busy.

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<v Speaker 1>So my takeaway on Brady was he's usually he has

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his convictions. But I predicted after the season ended,

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<v Speaker 1>he was very ambiguous. I thought there was a chance

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<v Speaker 1>he retired, and then when he retired, I thought, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take him in his word, but I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>chance he comes back. It's a small chance. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Tom has never really given himself six weeks off,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, really cleared his head, go on a vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>don't take a football, no playbook. He'd never done that

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<v Speaker 1>in the last twenty years. And I think Tom said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm gonna have a couple of beers, eat

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<v Speaker 1>some cheesecake, give myself six weeks with the family, and

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<v Speaker 1>came to the conclusion because he still has his health

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<v Speaker 1>and he's still an MVP level quarterback. This year he

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<v Speaker 1>came to the conclusion that I'm really good at football.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of hours in these days. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fill it playing football. My kids are more grown, my

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<v Speaker 1>wife's busy. What are you gonna do backgammon with neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not Tom. Tom is an aspirational guy. I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I'm certainly not anything like a superstar athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to my wife all the time about this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're compensated at a very high level and you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing something you really love and you're still pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>at it, what are you quitting to I understand people

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<v Speaker 1>who work in factories or have to lift things for

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<v Speaker 1>a living, or are in dangerous jobs firemen, police officers,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, get out take the pension. Totally understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>But glamour jobs right like musicians, athletes, actors, jobs that

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<v Speaker 1>are in entertainment or news. There's a reason these reporters

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<v Speaker 1>and these artists are still traveling. Yeah, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>Ario Speedwagon performed this weekend. Why they were paid a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun playing music and being adored by fans. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Tom Brady gave it six seven, eight weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd never done that before, and he came to the

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion that a lot of really willful aspirational people do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bored. I mean, Tom is mister gold setter, mister achievement.

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<v Speaker 1>It is hard to go from zero to sixty for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years and then back to zero and again. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot of professional careers that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a friend years ago who was an oncologist,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a cancer doctor twenty five years. Psychologically, he

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<v Speaker 1>was beat up, he was done, he was tired. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>seen death for two and a half decades. It was time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's different than football. And Tom's done a remarkable job

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<v Speaker 1>to stay engaged with younger teammates. And let's be honest

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<v Speaker 1>about this. He was good this year and his only

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<v Speaker 1>loss at the end of the year was to the Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>who won the Super Bowl. The loser in this, my

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<v Speaker 1>first thought, the loser in this is Aaron Rodgers because

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<v Speaker 1>all these teams are getting better, all these acquisitions, and

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<v Speaker 1>what did Green Bay do this offseason? Just pay Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers more. That's how they improved. They paid Aaron Rodgers more.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Tom retired, one of the things I think

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<v Speaker 1>I said it on the podcast. I definitely said it

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<v Speaker 1>before the end of the season. I said, man, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time retiring if I was Tom. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFC and this was before Russell Wilson left.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trey Lance, we don't know if it's going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Stafford McVay, can they repeat, I mean, Dak Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are Marii Cooper's gone. Dak's never been good without Amari.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFC is wide open. To me, Rams are the

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<v Speaker 1>best teams. Tom's back with Tampa second best roster. San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>if Trey Lance can play, is probably my third pick.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Green Bay kind of falls in that. Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona good enough to beat anybody, not good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>dominate top teams. So the winner in this Fox TV

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<v Speaker 1>gets a great quarterback in the NFC, the winner all

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<v Speaker 1>football fans. The loser, you know, potentially McVay, Kyle Shanahan,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. But the roadblocks are few and far between

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC. The bottom of it right now is

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<v Speaker 1>a mess. I was talking to a friend about this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a New Yorker, and I said, this league's getting

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<v Speaker 1>like NBA top heavy. I said, name the twelve best

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<v Speaker 1>players between the Jets, Giants, Chargers, Rams. New York had

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<v Speaker 1>none of them. None of them. The Giants are awful,

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<v Speaker 1>The Jets are awful. And I said, you start looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the NFC right now. Giants are awful,

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia is not very good. Winston Washington should be better,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are limitations. Atlanta, no Saints, no Carolina unless

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<v Speaker 1>they land to Shaun Watson kind of a mess. Arizona fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>but Cliff Kingsbury yet win a big playoff game. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of drama this offseason. Trey Lance, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle doesn't have a quarterback now. The bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC is large, the bottom of the AFC is like

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<v Speaker 1>Houston the Jets. That's it. So just feels good. A

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a surprise, not a shock. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it again. The days are long, Tom Brady figured

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<v Speaker 1>out after about sixty eight weeks, might as well fill

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<v Speaker 1>them with something I get great enjoyment from. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really good at throwing a football in the NFL, I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the more interesting moves this weekend by an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL team was the Cleveland Browns acquiring Amari Cooper as

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<v Speaker 1>a four time pro bowler in seven years, highly productive,

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<v Speaker 1>learns a playbook quickly. Going to be very interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see how this plays out. Jarvis Landry's numbers have dropped,

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Hooper's numbers have dropped since going from Matt Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>to Baker Mayfield. Ob J's numbers spiked and production spike

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<v Speaker 1>when he left Baker and went to Matt Stafford. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very interested to see what happens with Amari Cooper and

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield. You know, my opinion on Baker is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well documented. I was harsh on him early and defended

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<v Speaker 1>him at the end of this year. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was just beaten up everything knees Toes Labram. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Cleveland sees Baker as a long term physical

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<v Speaker 1>or emotional fit. Multiple reports they were interested into Shaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't see that happening. Think he lands in Carolina. Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Carr was also on the radar, follow Mary Kay Cabot.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had her on this podcast. She's an excellent twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year reporter. On the Browns, They're not going to extend

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<v Speaker 1>his contract, but I do think a Mari and Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to give Baker a shot fighting chance in

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<v Speaker 1>that division. And with Jarvis Landry seeking an exit, the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns have reportedly given him the freedom to leave. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's see O B J, Jarvis Landry, Austin Hooper. The

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<v Speaker 1>trend is not good. Really talented pass catchers struggling with Baker.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about for a few minutes, college basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>the selection committee. I love watching that three Pacific for

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<v Speaker 1>most of my adult life. You know, it's interesting. College

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<v Speaker 1>basketball is the one sport twenty five years ago that

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<v Speaker 1>was actually much bigger than it is today. It's very,

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to follow it unless you literally are a

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<v Speaker 1>college student and go to all the home games, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're a diehard, or you work in the media covering it.

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<v Speaker 1>So many games, so many teams, and all the best

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<v Speaker 1>players are one and done. My general rule for the

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<v Speaker 1>tournament is the Big Ten will be overvalued and overpicked.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go back to two thousand when Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>State and Tom Izzo won a championship for Sparty, the

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<v Speaker 1>last time the Big Ten won a championship. Before that,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go to the eighties, the late eighties

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<v Speaker 1>with Michigan before that Bobby Night. It's an overvalued conference

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<v Speaker 1>because the brands are big, because they have a good

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<v Speaker 1>TV contract, They're on television a lot, because their arenas

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<v Speaker 1>are often jammed Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks big on television and we overvalue the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen Perdue play three or four times. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not think they have a shot to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>final four. Similarly, I think we undervalue the SEC because

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<v Speaker 1>we see it as such a football brand, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to it. I think one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>young teams in the country's Tennessee. They can play four guards,

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<v Speaker 1>their backcourt plays real defense, hyper athletic, super young. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised three SEC teams made the Elite eight. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>your eye on Tennessee, Kentucky. I'm not sure they're good

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<v Speaker 1>enough doing a natty. A lot of people would argue

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<v Speaker 1>they were overseated, but the SEC is clearly absolutely the

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<v Speaker 1>better conference than the Big Ten this year. Watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ten get over selected and over picked in people's brackets.

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee's my dark horse. It did feel like to me

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<v Speaker 1>that the selection committee sort of made up their mind

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<v Speaker 1>before watching Sunday games due because a number two seed

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan got in without a play in game. Listen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of games to watch. Nobody's ever happy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the best team I've seen, and I've seen them

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<v Speaker 1>play four or five times, was Arizona. That's the best

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<v Speaker 1>team I've seen. Are they going to win it? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pick them. I'm gonna pick two SEC teams get

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<v Speaker 1>into the final four. I'm gonna pick Arizona to win it,

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<v Speaker 1>and keep your eye on the Tennessee volunteers. Super young

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<v Speaker 1>can shoot and defend. I'm going to go with the

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<v Speaker 1>All right, my buddy Nick Wright is joining me. He's

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<v Speaker 1>launching a new podcast. We'll get into that over the

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<v Speaker 1>next twenty five to thirty minutes. Um, I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>start on something because you know, college basketball is there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many programs. I think the country is watched less

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<v Speaker 1>of it every year. The one and done has essentially

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<v Speaker 1>cut off the head of college basketball. It's too transactional.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to stick to the NBA, which is

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<v Speaker 1>in your wheelhouse. So I was thinking about you the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. Lebron James is going on this scoring binge,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, this isn't a lost season

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<v Speaker 1>for Lebron because he's never gonna catch Michael and he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to stay as healthy as he can. He's had

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<v Speaker 1>no major injuries, and there is value in having a

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<v Speaker 1>big scoring year and being selfish this year, for the

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<v Speaker 1>first year in his career, I'm gonna score some points.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's never been that guy, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable he's become that guy. And I'm like, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>my takeaway is, hey, he's looking around the league. He's

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<v Speaker 1>looking around the Lakers' I'm gonna score this year. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna add some points. That's my takeaway on what he's done.

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<v Speaker 1>That he knows the chemistry doesn't work, he can't trust

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<v Speaker 1>a d They're going to blow this thing up probably

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<v Speaker 1>in the offseason, and for the first time in his career,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be a little selfish that's my take. What's

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable about it, though, is that he can do this

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<v Speaker 1>in year nineteen. The most points per game ever for

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<v Speaker 1>a guy year nineteen or later is Kareem with fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's doubling it more than doubling it, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that I always believed, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>said years and years ago, I could win the scoring

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<v Speaker 1>title every year if I really wanted to, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believed that, then I did not go into this year

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<v Speaker 1>thinking even if he wanted to, that he could still

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<v Speaker 1>average thirty points per game. I thought he could still

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<v Speaker 1>control games. I thought he could still be the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that in a critical fourth quarter of a playoff series

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<v Speaker 1>you would want over any other guy in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe he could still get to that. But

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's gonna play this year more games

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<v Speaker 1>than Durant and he's gonna potentially win the scoring title,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there is it's utterly remarkable, And I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>your guy Tom Brady, in a weird way, has caused

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<v Speaker 1>people to appreciate what Lebron is doing this season a

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<v Speaker 1>little less because Brady, you know, won a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>at forty three, was, you know, was a league MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, leading candidate at age forty four. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think people are it's like, yeah, this is the era

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<v Speaker 1>of old athletes dominating. But we've never seen anything close

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<v Speaker 1>to this in the NBA, nothing close to it previously. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brady thing is interesting, I'll pivot to that because

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<v Speaker 1>he was in England with his two boys watching a

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<v Speaker 1>soccer game. Ronaldo was there, Christiano Ronaldo arguably the best

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<v Speaker 1>living you know, soccer player, right, and you know somebody

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<v Speaker 1>asked him, somebody caught it in a hot mic or something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're retired, right, and he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure exactly where I am. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>my takeaway is that Brady I predicted this going in.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Arians were always going to be a short

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<v Speaker 1>term fix. That was dating. It was never marriage. The

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<v Speaker 1>cultures to lose, the cities to lose. Gazelle and He

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<v Speaker 1>are not Tampa people. It's just not that kind of market, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have chosen the Chargers. But you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago so far the Chargers were playing

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<v Speaker 1>in a soccer stadium. They were the number two brand

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<v Speaker 1>in the city. But I do think Brady is doing

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<v Speaker 1>I'll throw this out to you as an older guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I can throw this out. I think Brady really was

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<v Speaker 1>going to retire and he said, you know, I've really

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<v Speaker 1>never given my family like six to eight weeks off

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<v Speaker 1>a season and just said, let's pretend I'm not playing.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's flying around the country and he's probably drinking

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<v Speaker 1>some beer and eating stuff he wouldn't normally eat, spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with his wife, and he just kind of wants

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<v Speaker 1>to see how it plays out until the draft, what

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<v Speaker 1>does he feel, and then he's gonna survey the teams

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<v Speaker 1>and if one or two people bite, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot. I think Kyle Shanahan interests him

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a non quarterback centric offense. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>would take a call from them. So that's my suspicion

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<v Speaker 1>with Brady is these ninety five percent out but he's

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<v Speaker 1>never really taken eight weeks, never done it out. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you, you think he's gonna play next year?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong on that? I think the draft ends

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna say, you know, I'm hanging out with my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hanging out with my wife. I've still got nine

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day. I'm not doing anything because as we

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<v Speaker 1>all know, there's a days or long years fly by,

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<v Speaker 1>but the days are long, especially with kids, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>he's sitting there and his boys have friends and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got peers and they do stuff and they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out with dad. And he's like, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he would take a call first week of May.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my takeaway. But that hold on. I'm so because

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. If he's gonna take the call, then

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play right like that's and it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a weird thing because on our show, Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Wilds keeps making this point he's not wrong, which is

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<v Speaker 1>he had no retirement ceremony. He's like Joe Montana retired

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<v Speaker 1>in front of twenty thousand people and you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>Candlestick or wherever it was there was. He's like, Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady's not going to retire via Instagram post. And I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that part of it. The part of it that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand if he wants to come back, is this,

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<v Speaker 1>why ever announced the retirement. Why not simply say listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take the next two months to contemplate my

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<v Speaker 1>future and leave it at that. It just it feels

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<v Speaker 1>unless it's because he wants to leave. He wants keep playing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to leave Tampa. If this is all

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<v Speaker 1>one long con to get to San Francisco, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I also think it's possible. Like it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the football world like there was an old Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 1>episode where they said the breakup didn't take, Like just

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<v Speaker 1>somebody tried to break up with someone and the other

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<v Speaker 1>person was like, no, I reject it. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess so together, it feels like the football media has

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<v Speaker 1>decided this retirement didn't take. We don't accept your retirement,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady, like the president on his desk, like someone

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<v Speaker 1>submits the resignations. They're like, no, I don't accept it. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Brady seems to be kg about it, and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat ambivalent. The whole thing is one of the weirdest

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<v Speaker 1>things I've ever seen, Colin, because it feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people really expecting to play next year and

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<v Speaker 1>to be on a different team, and that this was

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<v Speaker 1>all theater. Yeah, I don't think it's theater. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Brady's really sharp and that he doesn't want to box

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<v Speaker 1>himself in Peyton Manning's done this where Peyton keeps himself

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<v Speaker 1>open to ownership a front office and hey, while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, I want to make about twenty million a

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<v Speaker 1>year doing the manning cast and put my personality out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I won't sign a long term deal with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to keep my options open. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>often have to sign contracts, not that we're cornered, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's certain you know, the tarmac is shortened, right, there's

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<v Speaker 1>certain things we have to do, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>rare what superstars and Lebron did this at the height

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<v Speaker 1>of his powers. I'm going to give you a one

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<v Speaker 1>year contract. Yeah, yeah, I trust And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry to bring it back to just real quick. Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>finally didn't do that and now regrets it. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>After winning the title with the Lakers, signed the extension early,

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<v Speaker 1>gave them extra time, and they immediately screwed him, like

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the urgency at the deadline that all

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<v Speaker 1>his other teams did. They didn't want to trade to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven draft pick, and they're like, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>leave anyway, buddy, Like so like the having that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>taking that tarmac away or that runway away from you

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<v Speaker 1>can be used against you immediately, but go ahead, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really think of what the bigger picture on

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers to me is that in nine seasons they've

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<v Speaker 1>had seven losing seasons. If Ohio State football, Kentucky basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>Yankee baseball in nine years had seven losing seasons, that's

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<v Speaker 1>with Lebron and Kobe, you'd be like, oh, that's poor ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody in Los Angeles because they like Genie Buss, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the LA media is not as angry as Boston, Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, not as provincial perhaps as a Dallas or Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a pretty easy media. Yeah, nobody will acknowledge this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's poorly owned and poorly runned with Lebron James, the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger question has given you a false sense of achievement.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a nine years, seven losing seasons. That's the Mariners.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up with that. Those are poor And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, during that time, they've had in nine years

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<v Speaker 1>four head coaches and one hundred and twelve players. That's Detroit,

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that's Orlando, that's Cleveland. People here are just you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>in the media, they like Anderson Cooper. Nobody will ever say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's never won his time slot. The media

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<v Speaker 1>plays favorites. They like Genie, it's poorly owned, it's poorly run,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way like and I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be like. So the fact of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter is that in every Laker's deep dive piece, the

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<v Speaker 1>name Linda Rambis comes up about how she has undue

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<v Speaker 1>influence on the franchise, has never had a real title.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows exactly what she does because she's Genie's

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<v Speaker 1>best friend and one of the you know, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot some of the people cover the Lakers on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis consider Jeanie a close friend, not just a

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<v Speaker 1>source or whatever, consider her a friend. Of course, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been poorly run, and there was so much of the

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<v Speaker 1>leaking that I thought was just unbecoming, Like when they

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<v Speaker 1>went after Rich and Clutch and they were like, they thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there, you know, there's a civil war between

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<v Speaker 1>Clutch and between the Lakers from office and Clutch wants

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<v Speaker 1>to run the team. Well, listen, at some point, if

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<v Speaker 1>the way you've run your franchise is the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>the GM is was the agent for your superstar and

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<v Speaker 1>then he literally got to run the team. Apologies if

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<v Speaker 1>the agent for your card Superstar thinks he might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to have some say like that's I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>Rob blinco was Kobe's agent, now he runs the team

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<v Speaker 1>like so. And by the way, and I know Magic,

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<v Speaker 1>You know it was bad on Twitter and people poke

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<v Speaker 1>fun but Magic saw that dysfunction and even with Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>there said I'm not dealing with it. I'm out of here, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they ended up getting a D and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron and a D of the Magical Season and so

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it papers over a lot of it. But so much

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lakers stuff has really bothered me because yes, Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me run this by you, Colin, and we

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<v Speaker 1>probably should have started with this, and I hadn't thought

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of it. I was talking to my son

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<v Speaker 1>about this, about why they went with Westbrook, like why

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<v Speaker 1>that ultimately happened, and I think it was ultimately out

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<v Speaker 1>of cowardice. And here's what I mean. The Lakers have

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<v Speaker 1>shown you if they disagree with Lebron, they will not

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<v Speaker 1>they won't do what he wants. We know that because

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler's not the coach they had. You could have hired

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Tylu and it's not like they were like, no, we're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in you know, Eric Spoelstra. It was for Frank Vogel.

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<v Speaker 1>They said no to thaylu yes to Frank Vogel, despite

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<v Speaker 1>what Lebron wanted to go. Okay, so they end up

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<v Speaker 1>trading for Russell Westbrook. Did Lebron want them to? Obviously yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I suspect the Lakers front office wanted to. Yeah,

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>because they love stars and because if they really didn't

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>want it, they wouldn't have done it. But here's the

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>more I guess incendiary allegation. I think want it. So

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.479
<v Speaker 1>if it was either trade those pieces for Buddy healed

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and other stuff and have Lebron you know, probably let

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>people know it's not the trade I would have made,

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>or trade it for rus and everybody knows it's trade.

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Lebron want it. I think one of the reasons they

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<v Speaker 1>did it was because they had a built in scapegoat.

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure it'll work, but if it doesn't work,

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 1>we'll make sure everybody knows Lebron made us do it,

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the other way around. If we go

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<v Speaker 1>with the courage of our convictions, go with something. If

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work, Lebron's gonna let everybody know it's not

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>what he wanted. So I think it was a built

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>in excuse. Is one of the reasons they traded for

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 1>us is because they could lay it at Lebron's feet

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>if they really thought it is going to be a disaster,

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, a lot of people did. You

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't think it would work. I was skeptical. Lebron is

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>not great at this part of it, the like seeing

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>what talent will fit with him. He's never been great

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>at that. But they didn't have the courage in their

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>own convictions and to then have it happened and then

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>to leak to the media. You know, Lakers run office

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>believes you know, the Lebron and Company made their bed.

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Now they have to lie in it. That's like terrible parenting,

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>not like the way you run a front office. I

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's ridiculous. Yeah, and they're a bit trapped because

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to inherit bad contracts to get

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>rid of Westbrooks contract. I said this, I would have

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>gotten rid of Anthony Davis before the season. I thought

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.479
<v Speaker 1>last year when he came in out of shape, in

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the year in which he was going to take the

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>baton from Lebron was an egregious affront to Lebron in

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the organization. And we never thought he was a great leader.

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>We always knew he was brittle, but we never really

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>thought he was sort of uninspired. When he came in

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>out of shape last year and he was, I thought,

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, let him play to the All Star break,

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>puff up his numbers and move him. And I think

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Lebron was so pissed last year with that he would

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>have bought into that. It's too late. Now you can't

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>get half of what you could at the beginning of

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>last year, several more injuries. I'm not an ad guy.

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.959
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I've played the market forever, you know

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>by low sell high. I thought, I thought last year,

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>very early, if you were given an opportunity to whatever

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>replace me or it was the moment of your career

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to take the baton and lead the network, and you

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>came in unprepared, you came in unfocused. Sure, that's all

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>that's all I would need to know from you. I'm

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm out. But last year, at the beginning of the year,

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>all said Lebron needs to get down to twenty eight

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to thirty two minutes about twenty four a game, be

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the number two guy, run the offense. Two guy Anthony

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Davis comes in out of shape, and I did listen.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not you know, I think some of that maybe

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>had to do with the fact that his body's breaking down.

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I think there's so I think you're being a little harsh.

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a would have been fascinating to see

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it happened, and fascinating to see what the return could

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>have been. I have a different because you questioned about

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>what the Lakers do next in this regard, what do

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you think the Blazers will let Dame? So we just

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we can talk about this or not,

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>but I think we can. You know, obviously, Joe Buck

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>just left our company. Yeah, I just left Fox, And

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>what I read was that your left owns contract. But

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Fox was like, hey, you've been an amazing employee for

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a quarter century. We're not going to hold your hostage.

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>You want to go with Troy, We're gonna you know,

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna wish you well and thank you for it.

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>So I thought about that, and I thought about Dame.

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And my question is this, if Dame says, okay, it's

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>finally time to move on. Would they let him pick

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>his destination? And if Dame says he, I do want

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to go to the Lakers and they'll give you whatever

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>draft picks they have left and Russ for the contracts,

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and you guys can buy out Russ and start over.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Or do you think the Blazers would say, Dame, we

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>love you, but we have to get a massive return

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>from you, so we're gonna it's gonna be, you know,

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>highest bidder. Or do you think they're gonna kind of

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>what the Lions did with Stafford? Right, they let Stafford

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of pick his spot. Now, the Rams could give

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot, but they let him pick a spot. Do

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you think the Blazers will let Dame do that if

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>he asks out. I think if the Lakers had the

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>assets Portland was interested in, they would. I don't in

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, you do not want your quarterback. You don't

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>want Russell Wilson in the NFC. But in the NBA,

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>if you get the assets, your amo vers my amo.

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I've never felt it's as parochial as that in the NFL.

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just real obvious. You know, if if

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>we're getting rid of Carson Wentz, you'd rather send him

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>to Washington. No, but that's not what I'm asking. What

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking is do you think the Blazers organization out

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>of loyalty to Dame? No, I don't think they would.

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I would take an inferior offer because no, I don't

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>think they would. I think I don't think it's a

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Laker thing because I think they would move him to

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers. I don't know what the Lakers have, right.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>They would just have seven and twenty twenty nine draft

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>picks is really all they would have. It's nothing. I also,

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I also think Dame's a smaller athlete and a declining asset.

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. There's not a lot I like Dame. But

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing Steph Curry this year wear down. These are

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>smaller players. Points the other night, eight points the other night,

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and one the Jordan Pool kid who you like, scored

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty in Clay at his first great game in a

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>few years. You know, since the injuries. It was good

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>for Clay. Steph's a weird one this year because people

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>were like, do you remember right before he broke the

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>three point record, he was like fourteen threes away and

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>they were like, could he break it? Tonight and like

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>fourteen threes, and since then he's had the worst and

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>this is worth shooting year since his first year of

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>his career. I think, like he is, he has not

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>been great this year. It's weird to see because people

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>are still talking about him like an MVP. I don't

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>even know if he's first team All NBA Garden anymore.

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's John Luca like I'm like, Steph to

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>me has not had nearly the year. I think a

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people think he's had at least percentages wise. Well.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I think Golden State's interesting because they're gonna play Jordan

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Pool a lot. The rookie kid out of Arkansas is

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna Jonathan Cominga is gonna They're gonna put him on

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the floor in the playoffs. I don't think it's a

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>championship team. I think Steph will because of his ability

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to shoot and handle the ball and distribute. He will

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.879
<v Speaker 1>age gracefully. It won't be a Westbrook or a Cam

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Newton where it's just off the cliff. But I think

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>it's very clear what they're doing. Wiggins was going to

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>be a trade piece. Now they need his scoring. So

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Pool was a great They draft and developed very well

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in Golden State. We've got, you know, between Draymond and

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Clay and Steph, so I think they're transitioning to their

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>next Steph and Clay. Clay is not the same player.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 1>He's not He's about seventy to be. I don't think

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be the Clay things sad because you

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>know he was just two brutal injuries and missing so

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>much time. So let me then ask you this, because

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I do I have immense respect for Phoenix and what

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>they've done. Yeah, and they obviously were the best team

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in the West, you know last year and then throughout

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. I don't know if I believe Chris Paul

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and we saw the injury. This injury, it's kind of

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a flukey one. I don't know if I think Chris

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Paul is going to be able to stay healthy for

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>back to back, you know, thirty game playoff runs, like,

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know that I think that's gonna happen

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.439
<v Speaker 1>or twenty some. I guess it'd be twenty some game

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>playoff runs. So I don't think Golden States making the finals.

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I really respect Phoenix. I think that the season might

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>be too long after what they did last year. So

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>now we're like, okay, Memphis too young. I'm gonna throw

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>someone out here. I think this might be Luca's oh

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>seven lebron year where it's way earlier than anyone thought.

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh my god, he took him to the finals.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like that guy with those teammates took him to

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the finals. I think we forget that. Luca. So he's

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>played thirteen career playoff games. He's averaging in those thirteen

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>games thirty three, nine and eight, and that was with

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>all thirteen colin coming against the Clippers. So every playoff

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>game he's ever played in his life. Choir Paul George

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 1>has been guarding him for basically the entire time he's

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>on the court, and he's thirty three, nine and eight.

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that the West is pretty wide open with

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers being this bad, with the Clippers being hurt,

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll see, you know, when Chris Paul comes back. I

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 1>think the MAVs. I think we could wake up and say,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, the MAVs are in the NBA Finals and

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it's because Luca just averaged thirty five, twelve and eight

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>for two rounds. Well, I think the bottom of the

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>West and East are so weak that I think Phoenix

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>will extinguish teams really quickly. To me, there, you know,

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm old enough to remember when every team looked like Phoenix.

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>A big that liked to be a big, a classic

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>number two guard that could shoot threes preferably mid range

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.240
<v Speaker 1>wings who could defend young with a veteran wing Jay Crowder,

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and a distributor first point guard. They are a nineteen

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:55.439
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight NBA team, they really are, and I think

0:36:55.440 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they've just built old school were Sometimes they're not great

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>shooting the three. They really aren't. Sometimes Jay Crowder becomes

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>really important for them. Should I like him, but I

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to depend on him. But I think the

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>bottom of both conferences this week, I think they're gonna

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>fly through it. Which give and then you know, listen,

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.760
<v Speaker 1>if Dallas was to meet them, it'd be a long,

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>long series. In Dallas, I don't think has the ability

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 1>to sweep through rounds as easily, and so I think

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.919
<v Speaker 1>they'd be a tad more worn down. I think it's

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix's year. I don't buy the way. Do you buy

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>into this current? It happens every time if I see

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>something over and over. I'm gonna believe it's true. I've

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>seen Jason Tatum, Marcus Smart, Jalen Brown, I've seen him

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs. They don't have the size, they don't

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>match up with Philly or Milwaukee, great situationally late in games.

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I've seen this. I don't buy Boston burst. Simmons is like,

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this is our best team. It's been ten years. And

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I watched him and I'm like, no, no, this is

0:37:55.000 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly what they've always been. Occasionally spectacular, but I don't

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like they would defend Biggs as well. I think

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>there's limitation. I mean, Jalen, I don't think they're going

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to get out of around one. People like, oh, Nick,

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you're a hater, Okay, So I just you know, if

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs start today, here's my issue for Boston, and

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>there's always the issue. And this is why, this is

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>why the folks who are on my head saying I

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>don't give Nicola Yo Kitch enough credit. I would like

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to see one of them at least have the faith

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>in him. If he's the MVP back to back to

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>say he can carry a team in a Western armorans

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not loaded, at least to the conference finals, if

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>not the NBA Finals this year, but nobody actually believes that.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>So on the Celtics, what series of the Celtics, Guy,

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm the best player on the court. Not against Philly obviously,

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>not against Milwaukee. Obviously, I would argue in the playoffs,

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have Jimmy Butler than Jason Tatum. I think

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Butler is more proven. But people could argue with

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>me on it. Fine. I obviously not not Brooklyn, but

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna place Brooklyn in round one because Brooklyn's

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the eighth seat or whatever. Um against Chicago, Yeah, Tatum

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is better than derosan Um. So like I think it's

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>winning playoff series if you don't have a loaded roster

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.399
<v Speaker 1>is really hard, if you don't have the best guy

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>in the court. And I just like Boston, and that's

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>why everyone's like, oh, Jason Tatum's a superstar. No, Jason

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>tatums like the eighteenth best player in the league, which

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>is awesome, but never good enough if your best guy

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>is not a top guy, drawing dead in this league always.

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what we've always known. Give me, give me seventeen

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>players better than Jayson Tatum right now, All right, I will.

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna okay, So here it is, I have to

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I have to visualize my pyramid and I'll do it. Lebron,

0:39:56.000 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Jannis Durant agreed, Yea, Luca Yokich embeat Steph Kawai, Anthony

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Davis Dame. We're at ten, James Harden is eleven, and

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>now is here where it gets trickier? Would you rather have?

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Donovan Mitchell, I think Devin Booker have shown

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>where they are. I think Jah is better than him.

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Now we're at fourteen, Chris Paul I haven't mentioned. Now

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>we're at fifteen. The other guys that I had on

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>there that I don't want to leave off. Paul George

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 1>puts Us at sixteen, Jimmy Butler puts Us at seventeen,

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and Jason Tatum was eight. Well, I think Tatum falls

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>into the sort of Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, Jason Tatum

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that you can make arguments for all of them, and

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Trey Young deserves to be in there too, And yep,

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree, yeah, he's in that. He's in that somewhere

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>between twelve. Somewhere between eleven and sixteen. You can Celtic

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>fans gonna say eleven. I'm good with it. I could

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>make an argument it's fifteen sixteen. I think Donovan Mitchell's underrated.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I've always felt now I mean, I think he plays

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>on the deep. He was known as a defensive stopper

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>before an offensive star. He has leadership qualities, He's been

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>good and big playoff games. He's been good late. He

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>can shoot at three, he can drive in the playoffs.

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>He's got a bunch of fifty point playoff games. That's

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. Like of those young guys like Tatum's

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>been to two conference finals. Yes, will Trey just carry

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the team to the conference finals the first time in

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. Devin Booker just went to the actual finals,

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>not conference finals. And Job we'll see this year. I

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 1>think Jobs better than all of them. I think he's

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, after Luca Jabs, the best young guy. Uh,

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jannis isn't a young guy anymore. In my opinion,

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>he's like in that healthy prime of his career. No, listen,

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I think, but this is the thing people always got.

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Tatum's gonna you know, he's gonna win scoring titles. He's

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be an MVP. They only award one of those

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a year guys one scoring, title one, MVP. They're hard

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>to win. Those things are hard to win, and so

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I I just know I think the Celtics would be

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>If they get Chicago, then I think they can win around.

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>If they get Miami, Phillire Milwaukee, they're drawn dead in

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>my opinion to win around. And if they get Chicago,

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe they went around the be out in round two.

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<v Speaker 1>couple of NFL topics you and I disagree on. Russell Wilson,

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I have him as a top five or six quarterback.

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I think his temperament, that's why I like him more

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>than Kyler or Aaron. You know, all these teams were

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>making these moves. All the Packers did pay Aaron Rodgers

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>more money. I think Denver is gonna be a much

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>better team. It feels very much. I've been saying this

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>for a year now. It feels very much like Tom

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to Tampa. We had all these young players that were

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.720
<v Speaker 1>better than everybody thought except for like fantasy football players,

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>like all these like Judy and Courtland Sutton and this

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Javonte Williams. Like unless you're a fantasy football player, you

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 1>may not understand the value. But they're all just ready

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to explode. I mean, if Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Locke

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>had twenty touchdowns and nine picks and goes two and

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Vic Fangio the coach like offensive coach Russell, we're getting

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to thirty and seven that we're getting around there pretty quickly.

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>So okay, do you throw this top five stuff around? Okay, Mahomes,

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to just make this a list show,

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 1>but let's just Mahomes Alan Herbert. Do we agree they're

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>all better? Than him. Those three, that's just three mahomes Alan, Absolutely,

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not ready for Justin Herbert yet. Well, he's got

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to have a winning record in the league. I don't

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:15.280
<v Speaker 1>know that he does. I asked to have a winning

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.439
<v Speaker 1>record in the league. Um, Justin Herbert, by the way,

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 1>has been the league two years, and in those two

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 1>years as one as many playoff games as Russell Wilson

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the LAS two years, both with the old Goose egg. Um,

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.439
<v Speaker 1>would you rather have Rust than Rodgers? For time out?

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that because, well, Herbert's free right now.

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So if you're asking me as a GM who I want,

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I take Herbert because I have a PAM for two. No,

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I move on from the Herbert thing. I said,

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>would you rather have Rust than Rogers? Yes, Aaron, I

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 1>think we have a sixteen game playoff record, seven and

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 1>nine at home, often as a favorite. I think Aaron's

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>into Aaron. I don't think he has leadership skills. I

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>have data that proves he's not great coming from behind.

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 1>He's a Baylor, not a baller. He's not a foxhole guy.

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>He's not optimistic. He's more cynical. I think he I

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>think he's a bad hang. I think he wears people out.

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he trusts many. That's a that's a

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>by the way, that's been his issue family on he

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't trust people. So I'm I'm a I just know

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>with Russell every day all he thinks about his cr

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 1>in football, I don't think anything. I think I And

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:27.439
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. I think you're like the guy who

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 1>was in love in love with this girl when you

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>guys graduated high school and then you both went to

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>different colleges and he came back and she's given you

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>all this evidence she's a different person, and in your mind,

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>she still as she was four years ago. The Russell

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Wilson you fell in love with. I don't know that

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that guy still exists. He's not on the field, he's

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>not as effective, and off the field, he seems like

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>he's a bit of a pain in the ass, Like like,

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I know he's your guy, but he the whole. I'm

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>not demanding a trade, but here are four teams I

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>would go to beyond hold on the ghost huddle on

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>national television. Hey look at me, cameras, I'm you know,

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>doing a whole huddle, and a whole two minute drill

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>with no teammates when my fingers broken, and then having

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>his doctor released that statement that seemed like it came

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>from Trump's White House doctor. This is the greatest rehab

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest hand that you've ever seen. I think

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it's I think your guy Russ has gotten a little

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood things, a little Hollywood Colin. There are people in

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Seattle who do who did think he's changed there. I've

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>heard that from people around the Seahawks. They thought he changed.

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And my takeaway is we all change. He married one

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>of the most beautiful people on the planet, he's got

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl, he's got a hundred million net worth,

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>we all change. I think it is core. He's an optimistic, aspirational, willful,

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>focused guy. I think Aaron Rodgers at his core is needy,

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a wide net of social connections. Um, I

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>think he's odd. I think I mean again, look at

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 1>all the teams getting better. The packers just paid Aaron

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers more. I think listen that part. I agree with

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:17.919
<v Speaker 1>you on. I think the whole Rodgers fiasco's mortifying for him.

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I like, I know he ended up making a ton

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of money, but I think it's an insane. What happened there,

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I think is insane. I was talking to an agent.

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I had dinner with an agent about three or four

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>nights ago, and he said, I've never seen an athlete

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>lose more brand than Aaron in a year. He's like,

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people want nothing to do with this,

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'd never seen an athlete lose you know, whether

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>it's Q rating or popularity or anything without committing a

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>crime faster than Aaron Rodgers has. Like you know what

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like the this is it's remarkable. What the

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, the way he's viewed now as opposed to

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>twelve months ago. I mean literally, he's the highest paid

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the league, and he gets into semantics and

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>he didn't like the word used by Ian Rappaport. It's like, dude,

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you're the highest paid quarterback in the league. End of debate.

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course, you said, agent. It made me think of

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>someone because I was when I was thinking about the quarterbacks.

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>What do you make of the Lamar thing? Why didn't

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Lamar have a deal? Did Lamar Jackson? Like? What do you?

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I know? It started to just throw that at you,

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>but I thought of it because he doesn't seem to

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 1>have an agent. I would argue, of all the quarterbacks

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 1>in the league, the one who should most want long

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>term security is the one who rushes for a thousand

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 1>yards a year. Like, that's crazy to me that he

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 1>hasn't signed a new deal. Well, Lamar's initial brand was

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>undervalued and then very quickly turned to perhaps overvalued. He

0:48:56.320 --> 0:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>can't play from behind. Baltimore, like New England, pays infrequently

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 1>drafts to replace. Everybody eventually is willing to pay. But

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've read multiple reports that say they're in discussions.

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Bushatti likes him, John Harbaugh supports him. But I was

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 1>on the Lamar's undervalued until last year, and then I thought,

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gonna keep my eyes open. Is he

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:33.799
<v Speaker 1>a tad overvalued? I'm not sure he's either, But would

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you have some concerns when you look at the trajectory

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of Herbert and Joe Burrow, Oh, I would have major concerns.

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>And Josh if I'm the Ravens' but I but from

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>what I understand, I think the Ravens have made him

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 1>some offers. Like it's not like they're like, we're not

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>signing you. Now, maybe they're not signing him at forty

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.919
<v Speaker 1>five million a year. Maybe it's closer to thirty five

0:49:57.000 --> 0:50:00.799
<v Speaker 1>million a year. My point is this, I given his

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>playing style and that he didn't play great last year.

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>If I if I were advising him, I would say,

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to sign the contract. Maybe you cost yourself

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a total of twelve million dollars, but not signing the contract,

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you might cost yourself a hundred million. Like how much

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>did Baker cost himself by not signing whatever the Brown's

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 1>best last offer was, it might have been a one

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred million that he calls himself seventy five million. I

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think for some of these guys that

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>aren't short things or are bigger injury risks than others

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 1>the whole. And I've talked about this before, betting on

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.839
<v Speaker 1>yourself sounds great except for when it doesn't work out.

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 1>When it doesn't work out, it's a Greek tragedy. It's

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>not a story of inspiration. And I worry about Lamar

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>in this regard. I think it's why Kayler's like, you

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.959
<v Speaker 1>gotta pay me right now. And I'd be skeptical about

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 1>paying Kayler too, Like I wouldn't be a big fan

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of that, but I understand why he's doing that. He

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 1>knows how big he is, he knows what's happening at

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the end of the years. I think Lamar not doing

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>everything he can to get a new contract is crazy.

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's crazy. I think his mother is still

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>his agent. I know that's That's what I'm saying, Like

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I don't think it's great. I don't

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 1>think he's getting great advice. All right, you and your

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 1>wife have a new podcast. I didn't know she was

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>on it. Now she is, well, she is on it

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:34.160
<v Speaker 1>very intermittently, but my site kick on it. The person

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<v Speaker 1>asked me my questions is asking me the questions is

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<v Speaker 1>my son. So it's him and I with my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and daughters chiming in occasionally. But yeah, it starts Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited for it, and I hope people she

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<v Speaker 1>can like and subscribe and everything. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say something because someone sent you a tweet and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get two in the weeds on anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I happen to see it and it said they

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<v Speaker 1>were mad at you. They were like, Uncle Colin, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed that you didn't have Nick as a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the volume. And one day. You know, that's a story

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<v Speaker 1>for the memoirs for both of us, But that is

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<v Speaker 1>a story for my last book. That is a story.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want America to know that Colin I both

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<v Speaker 1>you know, did everything we could to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>we could continue to work together in every capacity possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And Colin's hand has been open and out and assisting

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<v Speaker 1>me in every step of my journey the last six years.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea that anyone would think you snubbed me

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<v Speaker 1>from the volume, I want to nip that in the bud.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't happen. But like like Colin alluded to earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>we all have different you know, contractual stuff and so

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm very excited about this podcast that's starting on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be a couple days a week, and it's short.

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<v Speaker 1>This I'm learning from you on Some people do podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>that an hour and forty minutes. These are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be about twenty five minutes long. I hope people subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>to it. It's called What's Right? All right, Buddy, good

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing you on a Sunday. I'm gonna go watch

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<v Speaker 1>the selection committee make their picks. Bud, all right, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you letters, see you, Colin. Bye, the volume