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Speaker 1: welcome into the Monday Morning Podcast. Well, well, well we
Speaker 1: have quite a news bomb to drop. Tom Brady's coming back.
Speaker 1: So Nick Wright is my guest today. I interviewed him
Speaker 1: before this news came down. I'm going to keep it
Speaker 1: in the interview because I suspected Tom had about five
Speaker 1: percent chance to return, and I'm going to discuss it
Speaker 1: and you'll see Nick's reaction. But I'm not going to
Speaker 1: edit it out. I don't like to edit out stuff
Speaker 1: if I don't have to. I'm going to keep it
Speaker 1: in during the Nick write interview and you'll hear it
Speaker 1: in about fifteen minutes. So let's start with this. I
Speaker 1: have gone over this two or three times on my
Speaker 1: national radio and TV shows. Days are very long. You
Speaker 1: sleep seven I sleep seven hours a day. I work
Speaker 1: out for an hour, I eat for an hour. I
Speaker 1: hang out with my wife, I read, I listen to music,
Speaker 1: I take naps, and that's about eighteen and a half hours.
Speaker 1: I've got seven left. And I had said this with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. He's going to hang out with his kids.
Speaker 1: But if your kids have a life, they don't want
Speaker 1: to hang out with their mid forty year old dad
Speaker 1: all the time. I got kids. My daughter's twenty one,
Speaker 1: she lives, you know in Hollywood. Honey, you want to
Speaker 1: go for lunch. She's got like seven options. She didn't
Speaker 1: even call me back half the time. She shouldn't. She
Speaker 1: has a life. My son, he's got friends. You know.
Speaker 1: Once kids get the thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: it's not that they don't love dad. They got options.
Speaker 1: And Gizelle isn't some stay at home mom. She's a
Speaker 1: supermodel with a eight nine figure annual income. She's plenty busy.
Speaker 1: So my takeaway on Brady was he's usually he has
Speaker 1: you know, his convictions. But I predicted after the season ended,
Speaker 1: he was very ambiguous. I thought there was a chance
Speaker 1: he retired, and then when he retired, I thought, I'll
Speaker 1: take him in his word, but I think there's a
Speaker 1: chance he comes back. It's a small chance. And I
Speaker 1: think Tom has never really given himself six weeks off,
Speaker 1: I mean, really cleared his head, go on a vacation,
Speaker 1: don't take a football, no playbook. He'd never done that
Speaker 1: in the last twenty years. And I think Tom said,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna have a couple of beers, eat
Speaker 1: some cheesecake, give myself six weeks with the family, and
Speaker 1: came to the conclusion because he still has his health
Speaker 1: and he's still an MVP level quarterback. This year he
Speaker 1: came to the conclusion that I'm really good at football.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of hours in these days. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fill it playing football. My kids are more grown, my
Speaker 1: wife's busy. What are you gonna do backgammon with neighbors.
Speaker 1: That's not Tom. Tom is an aspirational guy. I talk
Speaker 1: about this. I'm certainly not anything like a superstar athlete.
Speaker 1: I talked to my wife all the time about this.
Speaker 1: If you're compensated at a very high level and you're
Speaker 1: doing something you really love and you're still pretty good
Speaker 1: at it, what are you quitting to I understand people
Speaker 1: who work in factories or have to lift things for
Speaker 1: a living, or are in dangerous jobs firemen, police officers,
Speaker 1: hey man, get out take the pension. Totally understand it.
Speaker 1: But glamour jobs right like musicians, athletes, actors, jobs that
Speaker 1: are in entertainment or news. There's a reason these reporters
Speaker 1: and these artists are still traveling. Yeah, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: Ario Speedwagon performed this weekend. Why they were paid a lot.
Speaker 1: It's fun playing music and being adored by fans. I
Speaker 1: get it. Tom Brady gave it six seven, eight weeks.
Speaker 1: He'd never done that before, and he came to the
Speaker 1: conclusion that a lot of really willful aspirational people do.
Speaker 1: I'm bored. I mean, Tom is mister gold setter, mister achievement.
Speaker 1: It is hard to go from zero to sixty for
Speaker 1: twenty years and then back to zero and again. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of professional careers that you know.
Speaker 1: I had a friend years ago who was an oncologist,
Speaker 1: you know, a cancer doctor twenty five years. Psychologically, he
Speaker 1: was beat up, he was done, he was tired. He'd
Speaker 1: seen death for two and a half decades. It was time.
Speaker 1: That's different than football. And Tom's done a remarkable job
Speaker 1: to stay engaged with younger teammates. And let's be honest
Speaker 1: about this. He was good this year and his only
Speaker 1: loss at the end of the year was to the Rams,
Speaker 1: who won the Super Bowl. The loser in this, my
Speaker 1: first thought, the loser in this is Aaron Rodgers because
Speaker 1: all these teams are getting better, all these acquisitions, and
Speaker 1: what did Green Bay do this offseason? Just pay Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers more. That's how they improved. They paid Aaron Rodgers more.
Speaker 1: So when Tom retired, one of the things I think
Speaker 1: I said it on the podcast. I definitely said it
Speaker 1: before the end of the season. I said, man, I'd
Speaker 1: have a hard time retiring if I was Tom. Look
Speaker 1: at the NFC and this was before Russell Wilson left.
Speaker 1: But Trey Lance, we don't know if it's going to work.
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford McVay, can they repeat, I mean, Dak Cowboys
Speaker 1: are Marii Cooper's gone. Dak's never been good without Amari.
Speaker 1: The NFC is wide open. To me, Rams are the
Speaker 1: best teams. Tom's back with Tampa second best roster. San Francisco,
Speaker 1: if Trey Lance can play, is probably my third pick.
Speaker 1: And then Green Bay kind of falls in that. Dallas
Speaker 1: Arizona good enough to beat anybody, not good enough to
Speaker 1: dominate top teams. So the winner in this Fox TV
Speaker 1: gets a great quarterback in the NFC, the winner all
Speaker 1: football fans. The loser, you know, potentially McVay, Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But the roadblocks are few and far between
Speaker 1: in the NFC. The bottom of it right now is
Speaker 1: a mess. I was talking to a friend about this.
Speaker 1: He's a New Yorker, and I said, this league's getting
Speaker 1: like NBA top heavy. I said, name the twelve best
Speaker 1: players between the Jets, Giants, Chargers, Rams. New York had
Speaker 1: none of them. None of them. The Giants are awful,
Speaker 1: The Jets are awful. And I said, you start looking
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the NFC right now. Giants are awful,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is not very good. Winston Washington should be better,
Speaker 1: but there are limitations. Atlanta, no Saints, no Carolina unless
Speaker 1: they land to Shaun Watson kind of a mess. Arizona fascinating,
Speaker 1: but Cliff Kingsbury yet win a big playoff game. A
Speaker 1: lot of drama this offseason. Trey Lance, we don't know.
Speaker 1: Seattle doesn't have a quarterback now. The bottom of the
Speaker 1: NFC is large, the bottom of the AFC is like
Speaker 1: Houston the Jets. That's it. So just feels good. A
Speaker 1: little bit of a surprise, not a shock. And I'll
Speaker 1: say it again. The days are long, Tom Brady figured
Speaker 1: out after about sixty eight weeks, might as well fill
Speaker 1: them with something I get great enjoyment from. And I'm
Speaker 1: really good at throwing a football in the NFL, I thought.
Speaker 1: One of the more interesting moves this weekend by an
Speaker 1: NFL team was the Cleveland Browns acquiring Amari Cooper as
Speaker 1: a four time pro bowler in seven years, highly productive,
Speaker 1: learns a playbook quickly. Going to be very interesting to
Speaker 1: see how this plays out. Jarvis Landry's numbers have dropped,
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper's numbers have dropped since going from Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: to Baker Mayfield. Ob J's numbers spiked and production spike
Speaker 1: when he left Baker and went to Matt Stafford. I'm
Speaker 1: very interested to see what happens with Amari Cooper and
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. You know, my opinion on Baker is pretty
Speaker 1: well documented. I was harsh on him early and defended
Speaker 1: him at the end of this year. I thought he
Speaker 1: was just beaten up everything knees Toes Labram. But I
Speaker 1: don't think Cleveland sees Baker as a long term physical
Speaker 1: or emotional fit. Multiple reports they were interested into Shaun Watson.
Speaker 1: Don't see that happening. Think he lands in Carolina. Derek
Speaker 1: Carr was also on the radar, follow Mary Kay Cabot.
Speaker 1: I've had her on this podcast. She's an excellent twenty
Speaker 1: year reporter. On the Browns, They're not going to extend
Speaker 1: his contract, but I do think a Mari and Baker,
Speaker 1: you've got to give Baker a shot fighting chance in
Speaker 1: that division. And with Jarvis Landry seeking an exit, the
Speaker 1: Browns have reportedly given him the freedom to leave. So
Speaker 1: let's see O B J, Jarvis Landry, Austin Hooper. The
Speaker 1: trend is not good. Really talented pass catchers struggling with Baker.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about for a few minutes, college basketball,
Speaker 1: the selection committee. I love watching that three Pacific for
Speaker 1: most of my adult life. You know, it's interesting. College
Speaker 1: basketball is the one sport twenty five years ago that
Speaker 1: was actually much bigger than it is today. It's very,
Speaker 1: very hard to follow it unless you literally are a
Speaker 1: college student and go to all the home games, or
Speaker 1: you're a diehard, or you work in the media covering it.
Speaker 1: So many games, so many teams, and all the best
Speaker 1: players are one and done. My general rule for the
Speaker 1: tournament is the Big Ten will be overvalued and overpicked.
Speaker 1: You have to go back to two thousand when Michigan
Speaker 1: State and Tom Izzo won a championship for Sparty, the
Speaker 1: last time the Big Ten won a championship. Before that,
Speaker 1: you have to go to the eighties, the late eighties
Speaker 1: with Michigan before that Bobby Night. It's an overvalued conference
Speaker 1: because the brands are big, because they have a good
Speaker 1: TV contract, They're on television a lot, because their arenas
Speaker 1: are often jammed Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana.
Speaker 1: It looks big on television and we overvalue the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: I've seen Perdue play three or four times. I do
Speaker 1: not think they have a shot to get to the
Speaker 1: final four. Similarly, I think we undervalue the SEC because
Speaker 1: we see it as such a football brand, we don't
Speaker 1: pay attention to it. I think one of the best
Speaker 1: young teams in the country's Tennessee. They can play four guards,
Speaker 1: their backcourt plays real defense, hyper athletic, super young. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised three SEC teams made the Elite eight. Keep
Speaker 1: your eye on Tennessee, Kentucky. I'm not sure they're good
Speaker 1: enough doing a natty. A lot of people would argue
Speaker 1: they were overseated, but the SEC is clearly absolutely the
Speaker 1: better conference than the Big Ten this year. Watch the
Speaker 1: Big Ten get over selected and over picked in people's brackets.
Speaker 1: Tennessee's my dark horse. It did feel like to me
Speaker 1: that the selection committee sort of made up their mind
Speaker 1: before watching Sunday games due because a number two seed
Speaker 1: Michigan got in without a play in game. Listen, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of games to watch. Nobody's ever happy. I
Speaker 1: think the best team I've seen, and I've seen them
Speaker 1: play four or five times, was Arizona. That's the best
Speaker 1: team I've seen. Are they going to win it? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pick them. I'm gonna pick two SEC teams get
Speaker 1: into the final four. I'm gonna pick Arizona to win it,
Speaker 1: and keep your eye on the Tennessee volunteers. Super young
Speaker 1: can shoot and defend. I'm going to go with the
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Speaker 1: All right, my buddy Nick Wright is joining me. He's
Speaker 1: launching a new podcast. We'll get into that over the
Speaker 1: next twenty five to thirty minutes. Um, I've got to
Speaker 1: start on something because you know, college basketball is there's
Speaker 1: so many programs. I think the country is watched less
Speaker 1: of it every year. The one and done has essentially
Speaker 1: cut off the head of college basketball. It's too transactional.
Speaker 1: So I want to stick to the NBA, which is
Speaker 1: in your wheelhouse. So I was thinking about you the
Speaker 1: other day. Lebron James is going on this scoring binge,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, this isn't a lost season
Speaker 1: for Lebron because he's never gonna catch Michael and he
Speaker 1: wants to stay as healthy as he can. He's had
Speaker 1: no major injuries, and there is value in having a
Speaker 1: big scoring year and being selfish this year, for the
Speaker 1: first year in his career, I'm gonna score some points.
Speaker 1: And he's never been that guy, and I think it's
Speaker 1: remarkable he's become that guy. And I'm like, to me,
Speaker 1: my takeaway is, hey, he's looking around the league. He's
Speaker 1: looking around the Lakers' I'm gonna score this year. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna add some points. That's my takeaway on what he's done.
Speaker 1: That he knows the chemistry doesn't work, he can't trust
Speaker 1: a d They're going to blow this thing up probably
Speaker 1: in the offseason, and for the first time in his career,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a little selfish that's my take. What's
Speaker 1: remarkable about it, though, is that he can do this
Speaker 1: in year nineteen. The most points per game ever for
Speaker 1: a guy year nineteen or later is Kareem with fourteen,
Speaker 1: So he's doubling it more than doubling it, right, right.
Speaker 1: And the fact that I always believed, you know, he
Speaker 1: said years and years ago, I could win the scoring
Speaker 1: title every year if I really wanted to, and I
Speaker 1: believed that, then I did not go into this year
Speaker 1: thinking even if he wanted to, that he could still
Speaker 1: average thirty points per game. I thought he could still
Speaker 1: control games. I thought he could still be the guy
Speaker 1: that in a critical fourth quarter of a playoff series
Speaker 1: you would want over any other guy in the league.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe he could still get to that. But
Speaker 1: the fact that he's gonna play this year more games
Speaker 1: than Durant and he's gonna potentially win the scoring title,
Speaker 1: it's there is it's utterly remarkable, And I actually think
Speaker 1: your guy Tom Brady, in a weird way, has caused
Speaker 1: people to appreciate what Lebron is doing this season a
Speaker 1: little less because Brady, you know, won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: at forty three, was, you know, was a league MVP.
Speaker 1: You know, leading candidate at age forty four. So I
Speaker 1: think people are it's like, yeah, this is the era
Speaker 1: of old athletes dominating. But we've never seen anything close
Speaker 1: to this in the NBA, nothing close to it previously. Actually,
Speaker 1: the Brady thing is interesting, I'll pivot to that because
Speaker 1: he was in England with his two boys watching a
Speaker 1: soccer game. Ronaldo was there, Christiano Ronaldo arguably the best
Speaker 1: living you know, soccer player, right, and you know somebody
Speaker 1: asked him, somebody caught it in a hot mic or something,
Speaker 1: you know, you're retired, right, and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly where I am. And this is
Speaker 1: my takeaway is that Brady I predicted this going in.
Speaker 1: He and Arians were always going to be a short
Speaker 1: term fix. That was dating. It was never marriage. The
Speaker 1: cultures to lose, the cities to lose. Gazelle and He
Speaker 1: are not Tampa people. It's just not that kind of market, right,
Speaker 1: they would have chosen the Chargers. But you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago so far the Chargers were playing
Speaker 1: in a soccer stadium. They were the number two brand
Speaker 1: in the city. But I do think Brady is doing
Speaker 1: I'll throw this out to you as an older guy,
Speaker 1: I can throw this out. I think Brady really was
Speaker 1: going to retire and he said, you know, I've really
Speaker 1: never given my family like six to eight weeks off
Speaker 1: a season and just said, let's pretend I'm not playing.
Speaker 1: And he's flying around the country and he's probably drinking
Speaker 1: some beer and eating stuff he wouldn't normally eat, spending
Speaker 1: time with his wife, and he just kind of wants
Speaker 1: to see how it plays out until the draft, what
Speaker 1: does he feel, and then he's gonna survey the teams
Speaker 1: and if one or two people bite, and I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a lot. I think Kyle Shanahan interests him
Speaker 1: because it's a non quarterback centric offense. I think he
Speaker 1: would take a call from them. So that's my suspicion
Speaker 1: with Brady is these ninety five percent out but he's
Speaker 1: never really taken eight weeks, never done it out. But
Speaker 1: I feel like you, you think he's gonna play next year?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong on that? I think the draft ends
Speaker 1: he's gonna say, you know, I'm hanging out with my kids,
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with my wife. I've still got nine
Speaker 1: hours a day. I'm not doing anything because as we
Speaker 1: all know, there's a days or long years fly by,
Speaker 1: but the days are long, especially with kids, right, And
Speaker 1: he's sitting there and his boys have friends and they've
Speaker 1: got peers and they do stuff and they don't want
Speaker 1: to hang out with dad. And he's like, and I
Speaker 1: think he would take a call first week of May.
Speaker 1: That's my takeaway. But that hold on. I'm so because
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If he's gonna take the call, then
Speaker 1: he's gonna play right like that's and it feels like
Speaker 1: it's such a weird thing because on our show, Kevin
Speaker 1: Wilds keeps making this point he's not wrong, which is
Speaker 1: he had no retirement ceremony. He's like Joe Montana retired
Speaker 1: in front of twenty thousand people and you know, in
Speaker 1: Candlestick or wherever it was there was. He's like, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's not going to retire via Instagram post. And I
Speaker 1: understand that part of it. The part of it that
Speaker 1: I don't understand if he wants to come back, is this,
Speaker 1: why ever announced the retirement. Why not simply say listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the next two months to contemplate my
Speaker 1: future and leave it at that. It just it feels
Speaker 1: unless it's because he wants to leave. He wants keep playing,
Speaker 1: and he wants to leave Tampa. If this is all
Speaker 1: one long con to get to San Francisco, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I also think it's possible. Like it seems
Speaker 1: like the football world like there was an old Seinfeld
Speaker 1: episode where they said the breakup didn't take, Like just
Speaker 1: somebody tried to break up with someone and the other
Speaker 1: person was like, no, I reject it. He's like, I
Speaker 1: guess so together, it feels like the football media has
Speaker 1: decided this retirement didn't take. We don't accept your retirement,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, like the president on his desk, like someone
Speaker 1: submits the resignations. They're like, no, I don't accept it. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Brady seems to be kg about it, and he's like
Speaker 1: somewhat ambivalent. The whole thing is one of the weirdest
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen, Colin, because it feels like a
Speaker 1: lot of people really expecting to play next year and
Speaker 1: to be on a different team, and that this was
Speaker 1: all theater. Yeah, I don't think it's theater. I think
Speaker 1: Brady's really sharp and that he doesn't want to box
Speaker 1: himself in Peyton Manning's done this where Peyton keeps himself
Speaker 1: open to ownership a front office and hey, while I'm
Speaker 1: doing it, I want to make about twenty million a
Speaker 1: year doing the manning cast and put my personality out there.
Speaker 1: But I won't sign a long term deal with anything.
Speaker 1: I want to keep my options open. You and I
Speaker 1: often have to sign contracts, not that we're cornered, but
Speaker 1: there's certain you know, the tarmac is shortened, right, there's
Speaker 1: certain things we have to do, and I think the
Speaker 1: rare what superstars and Lebron did this at the height
Speaker 1: of his powers. I'm going to give you a one
Speaker 1: year contract. Yeah, yeah, I trust And by the way,
Speaker 1: sorry to bring it back to just real quick. Lebron
Speaker 1: finally didn't do that and now regrets it. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: After winning the title with the Lakers, signed the extension early,
Speaker 1: gave them extra time, and they immediately screwed him, like
Speaker 1: they didn't have the urgency at the deadline that all
Speaker 1: his other teams did. They didn't want to trade to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven draft pick, and they're like, you can't
Speaker 1: leave anyway, buddy, Like so like the having that you know,
Speaker 1: taking that tarmac away or that runway away from you
Speaker 1: can be used against you immediately, but go ahead, sorry,
Speaker 1: if you really think of what the bigger picture on
Speaker 1: the Lakers to me is that in nine seasons they've
Speaker 1: had seven losing seasons. If Ohio State football, Kentucky basketball,
Speaker 1: Yankee baseball in nine years had seven losing seasons, that's
Speaker 1: with Lebron and Kobe, you'd be like, oh, that's poor ownership.
Speaker 1: Nobody in Los Angeles because they like Genie Buss, right,
Speaker 1: and the LA media is not as angry as Boston, Philly,
Speaker 1: New York, not as provincial perhaps as a Dallas or Chicago,
Speaker 1: but it's a pretty easy media. Yeah, nobody will acknowledge this.
Speaker 1: It's poorly owned and poorly runned with Lebron James, the
Speaker 1: bigger question has given you a false sense of achievement.
Speaker 1: This is a nine years, seven losing seasons. That's the Mariners.
Speaker 1: I grew up with that. Those are poor And by
Speaker 1: the way, during that time, they've had in nine years
Speaker 1: four head coaches and one hundred and twelve players. That's Detroit,
Speaker 1: that's Orlando, that's Cleveland. People here are just you know this,
Speaker 1: in the media, they like Anderson Cooper. Nobody will ever say,
Speaker 1: you know, he's never won his time slot. The media
Speaker 1: plays favorites. They like Genie, it's poorly owned, it's poorly run,
Speaker 1: and by the way like and I don't think that
Speaker 1: it has to be like. So the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is that in every Laker's deep dive piece, the
Speaker 1: name Linda Rambis comes up about how she has undue
Speaker 1: influence on the franchise, has never had a real title.
Speaker 1: No one knows exactly what she does because she's Genie's
Speaker 1: best friend and one of the you know, and a
Speaker 1: lot some of the people cover the Lakers on a
Speaker 1: daily basis consider Jeanie a close friend, not just a
Speaker 1: source or whatever, consider her a friend. Of course, it's
Speaker 1: been poorly run, and there was so much of the
Speaker 1: leaking that I thought was just unbecoming, Like when they
Speaker 1: went after Rich and Clutch and they were like, they thought,
Speaker 1: you know, there, you know, there's a civil war between
Speaker 1: Clutch and between the Lakers from office and Clutch wants
Speaker 1: to run the team. Well, listen, at some point, if
Speaker 1: the way you've run your franchise is the guy who
Speaker 1: the GM is was the agent for your superstar and
Speaker 1: then he literally got to run the team. Apologies if
Speaker 1: the agent for your card Superstar thinks he might be
Speaker 1: able to have some say like that's I mean you
Speaker 1: Rob blinco was Kobe's agent, now he runs the team
Speaker 1: like so. And by the way, and I know Magic,
Speaker 1: You know it was bad on Twitter and people poke
Speaker 1: fun but Magic saw that dysfunction and even with Lebron
Speaker 1: there said I'm not dealing with it. I'm out of here, guys.
Speaker 1: And then they ended up getting a D and you know,
Speaker 1: Lebron and a D of the Magical Season and so
Speaker 1: it papers over a lot of it. But so much
Speaker 1: of the Lakers stuff has really bothered me because yes, Lebron,
Speaker 1: so let me run this by you, Colin, and we
Speaker 1: probably should have started with this, and I hadn't thought
Speaker 1: I thought of it. I was talking to my son
Speaker 1: about this, about why they went with Westbrook, like why
Speaker 1: that ultimately happened, and I think it was ultimately out
Speaker 1: of cowardice. And here's what I mean. The Lakers have
Speaker 1: shown you if they disagree with Lebron, they will not
Speaker 1: they won't do what he wants. We know that because
Speaker 1: Tyler's not the coach they had. You could have hired
Speaker 1: Tylu and it's not like they were like, no, we're
Speaker 1: bringing in you know, Eric Spoelstra. It was for Frank Vogel.
Speaker 1: They said no to thaylu yes to Frank Vogel, despite
Speaker 1: what Lebron wanted to go. Okay, so they end up
Speaker 1: trading for Russell Westbrook. Did Lebron want them to? Obviously yes?
Speaker 1: Do I suspect the Lakers front office wanted to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they love stars and because if they really didn't
Speaker 1: want it, they wouldn't have done it. But here's the
Speaker 1: more I guess incendiary allegation. I think want it. So
Speaker 1: if it was either trade those pieces for Buddy healed
Speaker 1: and other stuff and have Lebron you know, probably let
Speaker 1: people know it's not the trade I would have made,
Speaker 1: or trade it for rus and everybody knows it's trade.
Speaker 1: Lebron want it. I think one of the reasons they
Speaker 1: did it was because they had a built in scapegoat.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it'll work, but if it doesn't work,
Speaker 1: we'll make sure everybody knows Lebron made us do it,
Speaker 1: as opposed to the other way around. If we go
Speaker 1: with the courage of our convictions, go with something. If
Speaker 1: that doesn't work, Lebron's gonna let everybody know it's not
Speaker 1: what he wanted. So I think it was a built
Speaker 1: in excuse. Is one of the reasons they traded for
Speaker 1: us is because they could lay it at Lebron's feet
Speaker 1: if they really thought it is going to be a disaster,
Speaker 1: and by the way, a lot of people did. You
Speaker 1: didn't think it would work. I was skeptical. Lebron is
Speaker 1: not great at this part of it, the like seeing
Speaker 1: what talent will fit with him. He's never been great
Speaker 1: at that. But they didn't have the courage in their
Speaker 1: own convictions and to then have it happened and then
Speaker 1: to leak to the media. You know, Lakers run office
Speaker 1: believes you know, the Lebron and Company made their bed.
Speaker 1: Now they have to lie in it. That's like terrible parenting,
Speaker 1: not like the way you run a front office. I
Speaker 1: think it's ridiculous. Yeah, and they're a bit trapped because
Speaker 1: you're going to have to inherit bad contracts to get
Speaker 1: rid of Westbrooks contract. I said this, I would have
Speaker 1: gotten rid of Anthony Davis before the season. I thought
Speaker 1: last year when he came in out of shape, in
Speaker 1: the year in which he was going to take the
Speaker 1: baton from Lebron was an egregious affront to Lebron in
Speaker 1: the organization. And we never thought he was a great leader.
Speaker 1: We always knew he was brittle, but we never really
Speaker 1: thought he was sort of uninspired. When he came in
Speaker 1: out of shape last year and he was, I thought,
Speaker 1: all right, let him play to the All Star break,
Speaker 1: puff up his numbers and move him. And I think
Speaker 1: Lebron was so pissed last year with that he would
Speaker 1: have bought into that. It's too late. Now you can't
Speaker 1: get half of what you could at the beginning of
Speaker 1: last year, several more injuries. I'm not an ad guy.
Speaker 1: I you know, I've played the market forever, you know
Speaker 1: by low sell high. I thought, I thought last year,
Speaker 1: very early, if you were given an opportunity to whatever
Speaker 1: replace me or it was the moment of your career
Speaker 1: to take the baton and lead the network, and you
Speaker 1: came in unprepared, you came in unfocused. Sure, that's all
Speaker 1: that's all I would need to know from you. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm out. But last year, at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: all said Lebron needs to get down to twenty eight
Speaker 1: to thirty two minutes about twenty four a game, be
Speaker 1: the number two guy, run the offense. Two guy Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis comes in out of shape, and I did listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I think some of that maybe
Speaker 1: had to do with the fact that his body's breaking down.
Speaker 1: I think there's so I think you're being a little harsh.
Speaker 1: I think it's a would have been fascinating to see
Speaker 1: it happened, and fascinating to see what the return could
Speaker 1: have been. I have a different because you questioned about
Speaker 1: what the Lakers do next in this regard, what do
Speaker 1: you think the Blazers will let Dame? So we just
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can talk about this or not,
Speaker 1: but I think we can. You know, obviously, Joe Buck
Speaker 1: just left our company. Yeah, I just left Fox, And
Speaker 1: what I read was that your left owns contract. But
Speaker 1: Fox was like, hey, you've been an amazing employee for
Speaker 1: a quarter century. We're not going to hold your hostage.
Speaker 1: You want to go with Troy, We're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna wish you well and thank you for it.
Speaker 1: So I thought about that, and I thought about Dame.
Speaker 1: And my question is this, if Dame says, okay, it's
Speaker 1: finally time to move on. Would they let him pick
Speaker 1: his destination? And if Dame says he, I do want
Speaker 1: to go to the Lakers and they'll give you whatever
Speaker 1: draft picks they have left and Russ for the contracts,
Speaker 1: and you guys can buy out Russ and start over.
Speaker 1: Or do you think the Blazers would say, Dame, we
Speaker 1: love you, but we have to get a massive return
Speaker 1: from you, so we're gonna it's gonna be, you know,
Speaker 1: highest bidder. Or do you think they're gonna kind of
Speaker 1: what the Lions did with Stafford? Right, they let Stafford
Speaker 1: kind of pick his spot. Now, the Rams could give
Speaker 1: a lot, but they let him pick a spot. Do
Speaker 1: you think the Blazers will let Dame do that if
Speaker 1: he asks out. I think if the Lakers had the
Speaker 1: assets Portland was interested in, they would. I don't in
Speaker 1: the NFL, you do not want your quarterback. You don't
Speaker 1: want Russell Wilson in the NFC. But in the NBA,
Speaker 1: if you get the assets, your amo vers my amo.
Speaker 1: I've never felt it's as parochial as that in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just real obvious. You know, if if
Speaker 1: we're getting rid of Carson Wentz, you'd rather send him
Speaker 1: to Washington. No, but that's not what I'm asking. What
Speaker 1: I'm asking is do you think the Blazers organization out
Speaker 1: of loyalty to Dame? No, I don't think they would.
Speaker 1: I would take an inferior offer because no, I don't
Speaker 1: think they would. I think I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: Laker thing because I think they would move him to
Speaker 1: the Lakers. I don't know what the Lakers have, right.
Speaker 1: They would just have seven and twenty twenty nine draft
Speaker 1: picks is really all they would have. It's nothing. I also,
Speaker 1: I also think Dame's a smaller athlete and a declining asset.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. There's not a lot I like Dame. But
Speaker 1: you're seeing Steph Curry this year wear down. These are
Speaker 1: smaller players. Points the other night, eight points the other night,
Speaker 1: and one the Jordan Pool kid who you like, scored
Speaker 1: thirty in Clay at his first great game in a
Speaker 1: few years. You know, since the injuries. It was good
Speaker 1: for Clay. Steph's a weird one this year because people
Speaker 1: were like, do you remember right before he broke the
Speaker 1: three point record, he was like fourteen threes away and
Speaker 1: they were like, could he break it? Tonight and like
Speaker 1: fourteen threes, and since then he's had the worst and
Speaker 1: this is worth shooting year since his first year of
Speaker 1: his career. I think, like he is, he has not
Speaker 1: been great this year. It's weird to see because people
Speaker 1: are still talking about him like an MVP. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if he's first team All NBA Garden anymore.
Speaker 1: I think it's John Luca like I'm like, Steph to
Speaker 1: me has not had nearly the year. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people think he's had at least percentages wise. Well.
Speaker 1: I think Golden State's interesting because they're gonna play Jordan
Speaker 1: Pool a lot. The rookie kid out of Arkansas is
Speaker 1: gonna Jonathan Cominga is gonna They're gonna put him on
Speaker 1: the floor in the playoffs. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: championship team. I think Steph will because of his ability
Speaker 1: to shoot and handle the ball and distribute. He will
Speaker 1: age gracefully. It won't be a Westbrook or a Cam
Speaker 1: Newton where it's just off the cliff. But I think
Speaker 1: it's very clear what they're doing. Wiggins was going to
Speaker 1: be a trade piece. Now they need his scoring. So
Speaker 1: Pool was a great They draft and developed very well
Speaker 1: in Golden State. We've got, you know, between Draymond and
Speaker 1: Clay and Steph, so I think they're transitioning to their
Speaker 1: next Steph and Clay. Clay is not the same player.
Speaker 1: He's not He's about seventy to be. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's going to be the Clay things sad because you
Speaker 1: know he was just two brutal injuries and missing so
Speaker 1: much time. So let me then ask you this, because
Speaker 1: I do I have immense respect for Phoenix and what
Speaker 1: they've done. Yeah, and they obviously were the best team
Speaker 1: in the West, you know last year and then throughout
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't know if I believe Chris Paul
Speaker 1: and we saw the injury. This injury, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a flukey one. I don't know if I think Chris
Speaker 1: Paul is going to be able to stay healthy for
Speaker 1: back to back, you know, thirty game playoff runs, like,
Speaker 1: I just don't know that I think that's gonna happen
Speaker 1: or twenty some. I guess it'd be twenty some game
Speaker 1: playoff runs. So I don't think Golden States making the finals.
Speaker 1: I really respect Phoenix. I think that the season might
Speaker 1: be too long after what they did last year. So
Speaker 1: now we're like, okay, Memphis too young. I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: someone out here. I think this might be Luca's oh
Speaker 1: seven lebron year where it's way earlier than anyone thought.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, he took him to the finals.
Speaker 1: It's like that guy with those teammates took him to
Speaker 1: the finals. I think we forget that. Luca. So he's
Speaker 1: played thirteen career playoff games. He's averaging in those thirteen
Speaker 1: games thirty three, nine and eight, and that was with
Speaker 1: all thirteen colin coming against the Clippers. So every playoff
Speaker 1: game he's ever played in his life. Choir Paul George
Speaker 1: has been guarding him for basically the entire time he's
Speaker 1: on the court, and he's thirty three, nine and eight.
Speaker 1: I think that the West is pretty wide open with
Speaker 1: the Lakers being this bad, with the Clippers being hurt,
Speaker 1: We'll see, you know, when Chris Paul comes back. I
Speaker 1: think the MAVs. I think we could wake up and say,
Speaker 1: holy shit, the MAVs are in the NBA Finals and
Speaker 1: it's because Luca just averaged thirty five, twelve and eight
Speaker 1: for two rounds. Well, I think the bottom of the
Speaker 1: West and East are so weak that I think Phoenix
Speaker 1: will extinguish teams really quickly. To me, there, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when every team looked like Phoenix.
Speaker 1: A big that liked to be a big, a classic
Speaker 1: number two guard that could shoot threes preferably mid range
Speaker 1: wings who could defend young with a veteran wing Jay Crowder,
Speaker 1: and a distributor first point guard. They are a nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight NBA team, they really are, and I think
Speaker 1: they've just built old school were Sometimes they're not great
Speaker 1: shooting the three. They really aren't. Sometimes Jay Crowder becomes
Speaker 1: really important for them. Should I like him, but I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to depend on him. But I think the
Speaker 1: bottom of both conferences this week, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: fly through it. Which give and then you know, listen,
Speaker 1: if Dallas was to meet them, it'd be a long,
Speaker 1: long series. In Dallas, I don't think has the ability
Speaker 1: to sweep through rounds as easily, and so I think
Speaker 1: they'd be a tad more worn down. I think it's
Speaker 1: Phoenix's year. I don't buy the way. Do you buy
Speaker 1: into this current? It happens every time if I see
Speaker 1: something over and over. I'm gonna believe it's true. I've
Speaker 1: seen Jason Tatum, Marcus Smart, Jalen Brown, I've seen him
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They don't have the size, they don't
Speaker 1: match up with Philly or Milwaukee, great situationally late in games.
Speaker 1: I've seen this. I don't buy Boston burst. Simmons is like,
Speaker 1: this is our best team. It's been ten years. And
Speaker 1: I watched him and I'm like, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: exactly what they've always been. Occasionally spectacular, but I don't
Speaker 1: feel like they would defend Biggs as well. I think
Speaker 1: there's limitation. I mean, Jalen, I don't think they're going
Speaker 1: to get out of around one. People like, oh, Nick,
Speaker 1: you're a hater, Okay, So I just you know, if
Speaker 1: the playoffs start today, here's my issue for Boston, and
Speaker 1: there's always the issue. And this is why, this is
Speaker 1: why the folks who are on my head saying I
Speaker 1: don't give Nicola Yo Kitch enough credit. I would like
Speaker 1: to see one of them at least have the faith
Speaker 1: in him. If he's the MVP back to back to
Speaker 1: say he can carry a team in a Western armorans
Speaker 1: that's not loaded, at least to the conference finals, if
Speaker 1: not the NBA Finals this year, but nobody actually believes that.
Speaker 1: So on the Celtics, what series of the Celtics, Guy,
Speaker 1: I'm the best player on the court. Not against Philly obviously,
Speaker 1: not against Milwaukee. Obviously, I would argue in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Jimmy Butler than Jason Tatum. I think
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is more proven. But people could argue with
Speaker 1: me on it. Fine. I obviously not not Brooklyn, but
Speaker 1: they're not gonna place Brooklyn in round one because Brooklyn's
Speaker 1: the eighth seat or whatever. Um against Chicago, Yeah, Tatum
Speaker 1: is better than derosan Um. So like I think it's
Speaker 1: winning playoff series if you don't have a loaded roster
Speaker 1: is really hard, if you don't have the best guy
Speaker 1: in the court. And I just like Boston, and that's
Speaker 1: why everyone's like, oh, Jason Tatum's a superstar. No, Jason
Speaker 1: tatums like the eighteenth best player in the league, which
Speaker 1: is awesome, but never good enough if your best guy
Speaker 1: is not a top guy, drawing dead in this league always.
Speaker 1: That's what we've always known. Give me, give me seventeen
Speaker 1: players better than Jayson Tatum right now, All right, I will.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna okay, So here it is, I have to
Speaker 1: I have to visualize my pyramid and I'll do it. Lebron,
Speaker 1: Jannis Durant agreed, Yea, Luca Yokich embeat Steph Kawai, Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis Dame. We're at ten, James Harden is eleven, and
Speaker 1: now is here where it gets trickier? Would you rather have?
Speaker 1: I think Donovan Mitchell, I think Devin Booker have shown
Speaker 1: where they are. I think Jah is better than him.
Speaker 1: Now we're at fourteen, Chris Paul I haven't mentioned. Now
Speaker 1: we're at fifteen. The other guys that I had on
Speaker 1: there that I don't want to leave off. Paul George
Speaker 1: puts Us at sixteen, Jimmy Butler puts Us at seventeen,
Speaker 1: and Jason Tatum was eight. Well, I think Tatum falls
Speaker 1: into the sort of Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, Jason Tatum
Speaker 1: that you can make arguments for all of them, and
Speaker 1: Trey Young deserves to be in there too, And yep,
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, he's in that. He's in that somewhere
Speaker 1: between twelve. Somewhere between eleven and sixteen. You can Celtic
Speaker 1: fans gonna say eleven. I'm good with it. I could
Speaker 1: make an argument it's fifteen sixteen. I think Donovan Mitchell's underrated.
Speaker 1: I've always felt now I mean, I think he plays
Speaker 1: on the deep. He was known as a defensive stopper
Speaker 1: before an offensive star. He has leadership qualities, He's been
Speaker 1: good and big playoff games. He's been good late. He
Speaker 1: can shoot at three, he can drive in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: He's got a bunch of fifty point playoff games. That's
Speaker 1: the other thing. Like of those young guys like Tatum's
Speaker 1: been to two conference finals. Yes, will Trey just carry
Speaker 1: the team to the conference finals the first time in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Devin Booker just went to the actual finals,
Speaker 1: not conference finals. And Job we'll see this year. I
Speaker 1: think Jobs better than all of them. I think he's
Speaker 1: I think, after Luca Jabs, the best young guy. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Jannis isn't a young guy anymore. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: he's like in that healthy prime of his career. No, listen,
Speaker 1: I think, but this is the thing people always got.
Speaker 1: Tatum's gonna you know, he's gonna win scoring titles. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be an MVP. They only award one of those
Speaker 1: a year guys one scoring, title one, MVP. They're hard
Speaker 1: to win. Those things are hard to win, and so
Speaker 1: I I just know I think the Celtics would be
Speaker 1: If they get Chicago, then I think they can win around.
Speaker 1: If they get Miami, Phillire Milwaukee, they're drawn dead in
Speaker 1: my opinion to win around. And if they get Chicago,
Speaker 1: maybe they went around the be out in round two.
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Speaker 1: couple of NFL topics you and I disagree on. Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: I have him as a top five or six quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think his temperament, that's why I like him more
Speaker 1: than Kyler or Aaron. You know, all these teams were
Speaker 1: making these moves. All the Packers did pay Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: more money. I think Denver is gonna be a much
Speaker 1: better team. It feels very much. I've been saying this
Speaker 1: for a year now. It feels very much like Tom
Speaker 1: to Tampa. We had all these young players that were
Speaker 1: better than everybody thought except for like fantasy football players,
Speaker 1: like all these like Judy and Courtland Sutton and this
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams. Like unless you're a fantasy football player, you
Speaker 1: may not understand the value. But they're all just ready
Speaker 1: to explode. I mean, if Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Locke
Speaker 1: had twenty touchdowns and nine picks and goes two and
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio the coach like offensive coach Russell, we're getting
Speaker 1: to thirty and seven that we're getting around there pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: So okay, do you throw this top five stuff around? Okay, Mahomes,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just make this a list show,
Speaker 1: but let's just Mahomes Alan Herbert. Do we agree they're
Speaker 1: all better? Than him. Those three, that's just three mahomes Alan, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you're not ready for Justin Herbert yet. Well, he's got
Speaker 1: to have a winning record in the league. I don't
Speaker 1: know that he does. I asked to have a winning
Speaker 1: record in the league. Um, Justin Herbert, by the way,
Speaker 1: has been the league two years, and in those two
Speaker 1: years as one as many playoff games as Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: the LAS two years, both with the old Goose egg. Um,
Speaker 1: would you rather have Rust than Rodgers? For time out?
Speaker 1: I didn't say that because, well, Herbert's free right now.
Speaker 1: So if you're asking me as a GM who I want,
Speaker 1: I take Herbert because I have a PAM for two. No,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I move on from the Herbert thing. I said,
Speaker 1: would you rather have Rust than Rogers? Yes, Aaron, I
Speaker 1: think we have a sixteen game playoff record, seven and
Speaker 1: nine at home, often as a favorite. I think Aaron's
Speaker 1: into Aaron. I don't think he has leadership skills. I
Speaker 1: have data that proves he's not great coming from behind.
Speaker 1: He's a Baylor, not a baller. He's not a foxhole guy.
Speaker 1: He's not optimistic. He's more cynical. I think he I
Speaker 1: think he's a bad hang. I think he wears people out.
Speaker 1: I don't think he trusts many. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: by the way, that's been his issue family on he
Speaker 1: doesn't trust people. So I'm I'm a I just know
Speaker 1: with Russell every day all he thinks about his cr
Speaker 1: in football, I don't think anything. I think I And
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think you're like the guy who
Speaker 1: was in love in love with this girl when you
Speaker 1: guys graduated high school and then you both went to
Speaker 1: different colleges and he came back and she's given you
Speaker 1: all this evidence she's a different person, and in your mind,
Speaker 1: she still as she was four years ago. The Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson you fell in love with. I don't know that
Speaker 1: that guy still exists. He's not on the field, he's
Speaker 1: not as effective, and off the field, he seems like
Speaker 1: he's a bit of a pain in the ass, Like like,
Speaker 1: I know he's your guy, but he the whole. I'm
Speaker 1: not demanding a trade, but here are four teams I
Speaker 1: would go to beyond hold on the ghost huddle on
Speaker 1: national television. Hey look at me, cameras, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: doing a whole huddle, and a whole two minute drill
Speaker 1: with no teammates when my fingers broken, and then having
Speaker 1: his doctor released that statement that seemed like it came
Speaker 1: from Trump's White House doctor. This is the greatest rehab
Speaker 1: of the greatest hand that you've ever seen. I think
Speaker 1: it's I think your guy Russ has gotten a little
Speaker 1: Hollywood things, a little Hollywood Colin. There are people in
Speaker 1: Seattle who do who did think he's changed there. I've
Speaker 1: heard that from people around the Seahawks. They thought he changed.
Speaker 1: And my takeaway is we all change. He married one
Speaker 1: of the most beautiful people on the planet, he's got
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, he's got a hundred million net worth,
Speaker 1: we all change. I think it is core. He's an optimistic, aspirational, willful,
Speaker 1: focused guy. I think Aaron Rodgers at his core is needy,
Speaker 1: doesn't have a wide net of social connections. Um, I
Speaker 1: think he's odd. I think I mean again, look at
Speaker 1: all the teams getting better. The packers just paid Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers more. I think listen that part. I agree with
Speaker 1: you on. I think the whole Rodgers fiasco's mortifying for him.
Speaker 1: I like, I know he ended up making a ton
Speaker 1: of money, but I think it's an insane. What happened there,
Speaker 1: I think is insane. I was talking to an agent.
Speaker 1: I had dinner with an agent about three or four
Speaker 1: nights ago, and he said, I've never seen an athlete
Speaker 1: lose more brand than Aaron in a year. He's like,
Speaker 1: a lot of people want nothing to do with this,
Speaker 1: but I'd never seen an athlete lose you know, whether
Speaker 1: it's Q rating or popularity or anything without committing a
Speaker 1: crime faster than Aaron Rodgers has. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like the this is it's remarkable. What the
Speaker 1: you know, the way he's viewed now as opposed to
Speaker 1: twelve months ago. I mean literally, he's the highest paid
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, and he gets into semantics and
Speaker 1: he didn't like the word used by Ian Rappaport. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: you're the highest paid quarterback in the league. End of debate.
Speaker 1: Of course, you said, agent. It made me think of
Speaker 1: someone because I was when I was thinking about the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: What do you make of the Lamar thing? Why didn't
Speaker 1: Lamar have a deal? Did Lamar Jackson? Like? What do you?
Speaker 1: I know? It started to just throw that at you,
Speaker 1: but I thought of it because he doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: have an agent. I would argue, of all the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the league, the one who should most want long
Speaker 1: term security is the one who rushes for a thousand
Speaker 1: yards a year. Like, that's crazy to me that he
Speaker 1: hasn't signed a new deal. Well, Lamar's initial brand was
Speaker 1: undervalued and then very quickly turned to perhaps overvalued. He
Speaker 1: can't play from behind. Baltimore, like New England, pays infrequently
Speaker 1: drafts to replace. Everybody eventually is willing to pay. But
Speaker 1: you know, I've read multiple reports that say they're in discussions.
Speaker 1: Bushatti likes him, John Harbaugh supports him. But I was
Speaker 1: on the Lamar's undervalued until last year, and then I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna keep my eyes open. Is he
Speaker 1: a tad overvalued? I'm not sure he's either, But would
Speaker 1: you have some concerns when you look at the trajectory
Speaker 1: of Herbert and Joe Burrow, Oh, I would have major concerns.
Speaker 1: And Josh if I'm the Ravens' but I but from
Speaker 1: what I understand, I think the Ravens have made him
Speaker 1: some offers. Like it's not like they're like, we're not
Speaker 1: signing you. Now, maybe they're not signing him at forty
Speaker 1: five million a year. Maybe it's closer to thirty five
Speaker 1: million a year. My point is this, I given his
Speaker 1: playing style and that he didn't play great last year.
Speaker 1: If I if I were advising him, I would say,
Speaker 1: you have to sign the contract. Maybe you cost yourself
Speaker 1: a total of twelve million dollars, but not signing the contract,
Speaker 1: you might cost yourself a hundred million. Like how much
Speaker 1: did Baker cost himself by not signing whatever the Brown's
Speaker 1: best last offer was, it might have been a one
Speaker 1: hundred million that he calls himself seventy five million. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think for some of these guys that
Speaker 1: aren't short things or are bigger injury risks than others
Speaker 1: the whole. And I've talked about this before, betting on
Speaker 1: yourself sounds great except for when it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: When it doesn't work out, it's a Greek tragedy. It's
Speaker 1: not a story of inspiration. And I worry about Lamar
Speaker 1: in this regard. I think it's why Kayler's like, you
Speaker 1: gotta pay me right now. And I'd be skeptical about
Speaker 1: paying Kayler too, Like I wouldn't be a big fan
Speaker 1: of that, but I understand why he's doing that. He
Speaker 1: knows how big he is, he knows what's happening at
Speaker 1: the end of the years. I think Lamar not doing
Speaker 1: everything he can to get a new contract is crazy.
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy. I think his mother is still
Speaker 1: his agent. I know that's That's what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't think it's great. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's getting great advice. All right, you and your
Speaker 1: wife have a new podcast. I didn't know she was
Speaker 1: on it. Now she is, well, she is on it
Speaker 1: very intermittently, but my site kick on it. The person
Speaker 1: asked me my questions is asking me the questions is
Speaker 1: my son. So it's him and I with my wife
Speaker 1: and daughters chiming in occasionally. But yeah, it starts Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for it, and I hope people she
Speaker 1: can like and subscribe and everything. And I want to
Speaker 1: say something because someone sent you a tweet and I
Speaker 1: don't want to get two in the weeds on anything.
Speaker 1: But I happen to see it and it said they
Speaker 1: were mad at you. They were like, Uncle Colin, I'm
Speaker 1: disappointed that you didn't have Nick as a part of
Speaker 1: the volume. And one day. You know, that's a story
Speaker 1: for the memoirs for both of us, But that is
Speaker 1: a story for my last book. That is a story.
Speaker 1: But I want America to know that Colin I both
Speaker 1: you know, did everything we could to make sure that
Speaker 1: we could continue to work together in every capacity possible.
Speaker 1: And Colin's hand has been open and out and assisting
Speaker 1: me in every step of my journey the last six years.
Speaker 1: So the idea that anyone would think you snubbed me
Speaker 1: from the volume, I want to nip that in the bud.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen. But like like Colin alluded to earlier,
Speaker 1: we all have different you know, contractual stuff and so
Speaker 1: but I'm very excited about this podcast that's starting on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Will be a couple days a week, and it's short.
Speaker 1: This I'm learning from you on Some people do podcasts
Speaker 1: that an hour and forty minutes. These are going to
Speaker 1: be about twenty five minutes long. I hope people subscribe
Speaker 1: to it. It's called What's Right? All right, Buddy, good
Speaker 1: to seeing you on a Sunday. I'm gonna go watch
Speaker 1: the selection committee make their picks. Bud, all right, talk
Speaker 1: to you letters, see you, Colin. Bye, the volume