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Speaker 3: The World's a Pigeon.

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Speaker 2: Podcast, Welcome to Batre gets unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: That's right, everybody, it's Deuce in the host chair today.

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Speaker 4: Of course, the big news Jeremiah Farms resigned this morning.

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Speaker 5: There was real conversation happening on your station last week

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Speaker 5: about whether or not the Chiefs were a better dynasty

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Speaker 5: than the Patriots. My homes are, Brady, it will see

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Speaker 5: you're gronk correct as of now, and as of now,

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Speaker 5: it's not close.

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Speaker 6: No, it is like, don't fall into the trap of

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Speaker 6: listening to the bomb bast.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we were at a bar with Barzee. Watch us

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Speaker 5: all coming together. We watch the super Bowl together every year.

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Speaker 5: I know it's adorable.

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Speaker 4: They did the kid and play dance after my homes

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Speaker 4: got sacked. When we make fun of Evan that he's

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Speaker 4: like lying in bed and chest, it's like, what are

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Speaker 4: you thinking about? Like this is like when Leye like

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Speaker 4: what are you thinking about? I'm like, yeah, Mike free

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Speaker 4: preference for linebackers. Help from Wisconsin chiming in here about

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Speaker 4: my hosting. Mike Phone's on working also Mike keeps going

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Speaker 4: to calls and send of emails. If you're waiting on

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Speaker 4: the phones out until we do, we go back, now,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't do you ever get tired of that?

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Speaker 7: What just whining all the time?

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Speaker 8: Now, this is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome into another edition of Patriots Unfiltered. And

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Speaker 4: that's right, guys, it's a kids show today, at least

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Speaker 4: for the first half. We got Matison, we got Alex Evan, myself,

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Speaker 4: Paul and Fred doing vacation kind of stuff out there.

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Speaker 4: Deserved well deserved, of course, two of the hardest working

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Speaker 4: guys we know. So if you want to call in

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Speaker 4: and yell at us a little bit, or you know,

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Speaker 4: bring a little bit of that energy, we'd love to

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Speaker 4: have it. But otherwise, we're well into the off season here,

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Speaker 4: so we're gonna have a little bit of an off

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Speaker 4: season show today. I think we're open for discussions. I

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Speaker 4: don't know what are we going to talk about today?

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Speaker 4: We get Alex and Tisse, maybe can chime in a

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Speaker 4: little bit on the super Bowl. Some of themmercials apparently

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Speaker 4: out it's already brought one up that I totally missed.

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Speaker 4: Uh so, I'm glad you didn't watch the commercial. I

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Speaker 4: didn't really watch them.

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Speaker 3: I got it was hard for me too.

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Speaker 7: They announced them two weeks before the game.

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Speaker 4: They're not specially I think you need a like a

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Speaker 4: Chiron on some of these commercials to let you know,

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Speaker 4: like this is a big budget one like this, Like

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess with Harrison Ford, I missed that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jeep one with Harrison.

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Speaker 7: My favorite is the Seal one with the Mountain dew.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got we talked about Seal.

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Speaker 5: That was my favorite.

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Speaker 9: Cousin Michelle wants to stop talking. So that's kind of

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Speaker 9: Hardchell sometimes.

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Speaker 3: So so is today.

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Speaker 4: Some fun today?

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Speaker 10: For sure.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have Matt No Socks Smith in from the

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Speaker 4: premium post game show. We haven't heard from him since

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Speaker 4: that big post game show we had, so check in

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Speaker 4: with Matt here in the second hour as well, and uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, some things going on, I would say outside

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Speaker 4: of the Patriots universe a little bit Red Sox making

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Speaker 4: a signing, so I know we got some some Red

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Speaker 4: Sox fans who are back on the bandwagon here.

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Speaker 3: The protest is over and I on.

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Speaker 5: Their REP today, Right, you're not even gonna wait for

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Speaker 5: the rep to call it, you know, just going around.

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Speaker 4: We're back, baby, I'm we go.

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Speaker 7: Let's go at the outdoor ball.

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Speaker 3: It's not even like twenty sixteen. We're still excited about it.

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Speaker 5: Well it's it's I was uh no, but he's a

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Speaker 5: good player. Yeah, and uh, you know, to make it

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Speaker 5: to play and have done it at a high level

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Speaker 5: in baseball before. You know, Bregman, Walker, Bueller, Crochet. You know,

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Speaker 5: Tristan Cassas and the Roman Anthony's and all these other

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Speaker 5: I do think it is a little bit of patriot

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Speaker 7: So you say that?

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Speaker 4: So let's get right into some Patriots self, because it

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Speaker 4: just made me think like this, does this Patriots team

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Speaker 4: seem like the team that needs that, you know, let's

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Speaker 4: bring in a veteran kind of guy, you know, like

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Speaker 4: the Boston sports sports, I think there's an element of

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Speaker 4: But such an unknown of what this roster is going

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree, and you know, just to make

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Speaker 5: it like a baseball football comparison, like to me, Alex

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Speaker 9: And Rabel really saw firsthand he was part of those

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Speaker 9: groups of guys that led the locker room, that policed itself.

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Speaker 9: We've talked about it many times on this show, but

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Speaker 9: that's what we really need to get back to.

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Speaker 3: For me, that's was one of the biggest things we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, along those lines of te I got to give

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Speaker 7: go get him. Does does he want to come? That's

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Speaker 7: I was like, when was this safe?

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Speaker 4: So they're starting to make some moves though, and we

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Speaker 4: but they're uh, you know, I I know people have

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Speaker 4: I look at it as these guys who have been around,

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Speaker 4: they understand the program, You have some degree of trust

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Speaker 4: giving players like this an opportunity to excel. Whereas I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, Jeremiah Farms got so much praise last year

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Speaker 4: Jeremiah Farm show. But I mean, I will say when

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Speaker 4: seems like maybe jeremih Farms might be a little better

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Speaker 4: suited just to be a get up the field kind

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Speaker 4: he blossoms. It's not big money. But you know, same

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Speaker 4: thing with Jawai Jackson, where he's been here a little bit.

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Speaker 4: They know who he is at least personally. There's gonna

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Speaker 4: be obviously an offensive change. But I like that these

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Speaker 4: moves are starting to happen. It's nothing that you need

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Speaker 4: to It's not t Higgins yet. You know, we're not

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Speaker 7: I think a big thing also is just depth, and

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Speaker 7: the Patriots just didn't have that. This is a guy

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Speaker 7: you're familiar with and he's he's solid, So like, let's

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Speaker 5: the Jets at quarterback, and that that'll be interesting to

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Speaker 5: see how New York candles that if you told.

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Speaker 9: Us, I just remember, like our conversations we had on

436
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Speaker 9: the show right around when he signed with the Jets,

437
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Speaker 9: if you told me two years ago it was going to.

438
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Speaker 7: Play out how it did, running out exactly sounds exactly right.

439
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Speaker 9: Well, the Jets aren't gonna jet, but it just felt

440
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Speaker 9: a little different.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

442
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Speaker 9: I feel like Evan was very skeptical.

443
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Speaker 5: Working out at the level everybody.

444
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Speaker 3: It would blow up in their face like it did.

445
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't anticipate that they were

446
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Speaker 5: going to be complete non factor. I just a lot

447
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Speaker 5: of people were picking them to make the Super Bowl

448
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Speaker 5: or win the Super Bowl out of the AFC, and

449
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Speaker 5: I was like, let's let's calm down.

450
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Speaker 7: And it's it's five years of a pretty good defense wasted. Yeah.

451
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they took a step teams. I'm just starting to

452
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Speaker 5: like that. That's a part of it for the Jets

453
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Speaker 5: with me, like maybe we're overrating their roster just a

454
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Speaker 5: little bit. Like the team doesn't win, so at the

455
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Speaker 5: end of the day, we can blame it on the coaching,

456
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Speaker 5: we can blame it on the quarterback. They keep changing

457
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 5: both things, right, they keep revolving through both things, and

458
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 5: the roster doesn't win. So, like I get that they

459
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Speaker 5: have some like top end talent. You know, Garrett Wilson,

460
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Speaker 5: Sauce Gardner, Quinn Williams, like, those are good players. Bresee Hall,

461
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Speaker 5: But I don't know, maybe there's more holes on that

462
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Speaker 5: roster than they give people think, because every time we

463
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Speaker 5: talk about the Jets, I feel like everybody's always like

464
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Speaker 5: that roster is amazing. I'm like, Okay, how many games

465
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Speaker 5: did they win?

466
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

467
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Speaker 5: They won five, And it's like at some point you

468
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Speaker 5: have to look in the mirror and say, you know,

469
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Speaker 5: are we overrating our team a little bit? It does

470
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Speaker 5: feel like that a little bit to me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you think that this is uh now,

472
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Speaker 4: I think Adams is Adams a free agent.

473
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Speaker 5: So no, he's under but you know, all the reporting

474
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Speaker 5: is that there's no way he's coming back.

475
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Speaker 4: They're going to like de Roger five. Yeah, the roster

476
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Speaker 4: now yeah. So I mean, I just keep going back

477
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Speaker 4: to what you know, Mike Rabel said when we first

478
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Speaker 4: heard with him. From him, where we have to be

479
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Speaker 4: able to take advantage of.

480
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Speaker 7: Bad football first.

481
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Speaker 4: And if the Jets are taking a step back, certainly

482
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Speaker 4: they have a rookie quarterback or an unproven quarterback, it

483
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Speaker 4: would give you some pauses. Maybe the Patriots, you know,

484
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Speaker 4: can be back in the mix with them. I know

485
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Speaker 4: we split with him last year, but uh in the

486
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 4: year before, right, that was when they finally broke the streak.

487
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Speaker 4: So maybe an opportunity there for the Patriots. Where does

488
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Speaker 4: where does Rogers land? He's not done, is he?

489
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Speaker 7: I think creators? Yeah, that's the only thing I can

490
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Speaker 7: think that a lot of players don't even where everybody

491
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Speaker 7: goes to die. Yeah, I don't know. I think the

492
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Speaker 7: only reason we retired is because he hit five hundred

493
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Speaker 7: passing touchdowns, Like he was stuck at four ninety nine

494
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Speaker 7: for a while, and I think just with him would

495
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Speaker 7: bother him a lot.

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Speaker 2: YEA.

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Speaker 7: So now I just don't know, because.

498
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Speaker 4: It's not his terms, right, Like if he goes out now,

499
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Speaker 4: it doesn't feel entirely like it's his choice, and I

500
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Speaker 4: think that would kind of bug him, like he and

501
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Speaker 4: I watched some of that document I don't know if

502
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Speaker 4: you guys watched it, the one that came out. I

503
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Speaker 4: guess it was last year about behind the scenes of

504
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Speaker 4: him and seemed like they were setting out to make

505
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Speaker 4: a documentary about the season, and then it became a

506
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Speaker 4: documentary about him dealing with the injury. But from what

507
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Speaker 4: I saw of him. It seems like he wants to

508
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Speaker 4: write his own last chapter. He doesn't want to have

509
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Speaker 4: it written for him. So I'd be surprised if he

510
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Speaker 4: doesn't catch on somewhere. But I don't know what the

511
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Speaker 4: Jets do either.

512
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Speaker 5: There's too many quarterback needy teams and there's not enough

513
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Speaker 5: quarterbacks available this offseason. So whether it's the Raiders, the Saints,

514
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Speaker 5: the Titans, the Browns, like the Giants like just go,

515
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Speaker 5: there's so many quarterback needy teams and it's not a

516
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Speaker 5: good year for quarterbacks in the draft. So to do

517
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Speaker 5: what the Jets tried to do and hit, you know,

518
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Speaker 5: strike lightning in a bottle one year of Aaron Rodgers

519
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Speaker 5: and how if it works and he's an MVP caliber player,

520
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Speaker 5: then maybe you're a relevant team. I think that there's

521
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Speaker 5: worse things to do in a lot of ways for

522
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Speaker 5: these teams that are desperate for quarterbacks in a year

523
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Speaker 5: that doesn't have a ton of quarterbacks in the draft.

524
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Speaker 5: Like maybe now you drafted on Day two that has

525
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Speaker 5: some upside and you have him train under Aaron Rodgers

526
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Speaker 5: and maybe you hand the keys to him in twenty

527
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Speaker 5: twenty six. If it ends up working out, So I

528
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Speaker 5: don't think it's the worst thing in the world for

529
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Speaker 5: a team like the Raiders or one of those teams

530
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Speaker 5: picking in the top three to opt to go with

531
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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers over going with Shador Sanders at two overall

532
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Speaker 5: like that, that's going to be a reach on a

533
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Speaker 5: player like that. So I think there could be a

534
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Speaker 5: market for him just for that.

535
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Speaker 4: I just got like just a quick side question, cam

536
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Speaker 4: Warp trade up people, is he gonna Is he gonna

537
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Speaker 4: get overdrafted cam Ward? I think that's like maybe one

538
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Speaker 4: of the big questions for the Patriots in this draft.

539
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Speaker 4: Can someone take Kim Ward in those top three picks

540
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Speaker 4: or trade up to take him in.

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Speaker 7: Those huge draft? Reminds me of the can you pick

542
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Speaker 7: at draft? Which is silly now because he just won

543
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Speaker 7: a Super Bowl, but it's just like I think, no,

544
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Speaker 7: you watch his team, but it just like it. It

545
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Speaker 7: just seems like this is a draft that could get

546
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Speaker 7: a GM in a lot of trouble and you're then

547
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Speaker 7: you're just stuck with another mid quarterback, and especially with

548
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Speaker 7: I think next year's draft, there's some better prospects out there,

549
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Speaker 7: so you really want to risk it.

550
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is when ownership, I feel like gets

551
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 5: in the way of football sometimes in the NFL where

552
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Speaker 5: the owner comes to the general manager and is like,

553
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Speaker 5: we need a quarterback and it needs to be a splash,

554
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Speaker 5: like we can't just go out there and sign Gardner

555
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Speaker 5: Minshew or something like that, like we need to actually

556
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Speaker 5: make a move here at quarterback to Piese the owner,

557
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Speaker 5: and then you end up overdrafting somebody as a result.

558
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Speaker 5: I think cam Ward's more toolsy than Shaud or Sanders.

559
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Speaker 5: Ball jumps out of his hand, he's got a good arm,

560
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Speaker 5: and he's got some athleticism. But you know, just like

561
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Speaker 5: we talk about the receivers in this draft, like where

562
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Speaker 5: would cam Ward go last year? You know, probably somewhere

563
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Speaker 5: in that like bo Nick's territory, like maybe a quarterback four,

564
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Speaker 5: quarterback five, like somewhere around there, and that you have

565
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Speaker 5: to factor that in, Like you don't just reach on

566
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Speaker 5: players like that, and that's not good business. So you

567
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Speaker 5: have to factor that in.

568
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Speaker 9: Maybe seeing how things played out with like Darnold going

569
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Speaker 9: to Minnesota this year and Baker Mayfield kind of catching off,

570
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Speaker 9: like maybe that'll help teams kind of see like, you

571
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Speaker 9: know what, maybe we can just bring in a guy

572
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Speaker 9: that's bounced around in his a vet and then go

573
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Speaker 9: from there.

574
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think like Justin Fields, and then get a

575
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Speaker 7: better other prospect. If it doesn't work, you're bad. Next

576
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Speaker 7: year you get a better quarterback.

577
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Speaker 5: I think that's going to be a lot of teams,

578
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Speaker 5: especially those teams at the top of the draft this year,

579
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Speaker 5: are going to be thinking that exact same thing of

580
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Speaker 5: can we get the next Baker Mayfield? Can we get

581
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Speaker 5: the next Sam Donald? Maybe even Sam Donald who's going

582
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Speaker 5: to be a free agent and.

583
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Speaker 7: He'll fold in the playoffs, but he got there, right.

584
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Speaker 5: Some of these teams are just looking for respectability, right

585
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 5: and just being relevant, and and the.

586
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Speaker 3: Vikings had that this year all season, and.

587
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Speaker 4: There's a buzz about the Vikings.

588
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Speaker 7: If you're the Browns and you could get Travis Hunter

589
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Speaker 7: and Justin Fields, I think I would take that over

590
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Speaker 7: developing cam Ward or.

591
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Speaker 4: I just think it's funny that we're we're always such

592
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Speaker 4: prisoner to what happened the last season, and so when

593
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Speaker 4: you get into the month of February, everyone always looks

594
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Speaker 4: back at what happened, who won the Super Bowl, who

595
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Speaker 4: had impressive years, and you know, like two or three

596
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Speaker 4: years ago, if we'd been like, well one of the

597
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Speaker 4: Patriots just gets Sam Darnold, like, because that wasn't the

598
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Speaker 4: narrative that offseason, everyone like he sucks, like Baker Mayland

599
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Speaker 4: he sucks, you know, like, But now that those guys

600
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Speaker 4: have actually had some success where they've you know, used

601
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Speaker 4: the experience that they've had in other places. I mean,

602
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Speaker 4: I'll be the first to tell you when we watched

603
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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield out there on the practice off fields awful

604
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Speaker 4: with the Panthers, I was like, that guy is done.

605
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Speaker 5: They were both Carolina.

606
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Speaker 4: Not even to mention when I don't, right, yeah, not

607
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Speaker 4: even maybe that's the secret. You gotta go to Carolina

608
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 4: for year even that. But when Baker Mayfield was shre

609
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Speaker 4: with the Browns that one year, I was like, this

610
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: guy doesn't even want to play anymore. I don't know

611
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Speaker 4: who was worse, him or Jarvis Landery, like both those guys.

612
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, these guys were good at one point. Uh So,

613
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Speaker 4: It's just it's funny how the that's how the narratives go,

614
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: and you know, that's what we're all talking about with

615
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Speaker 4: the Eagles now. And I mean maybe I'm then this

616
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Speaker 4: might be run. This is where we need Paul when

617
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Speaker 4: I like, I throw something out there and I'm like,

618
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Speaker 4: I might be wrong about this, and he'll always call

619
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Speaker 4: me out when I am wrong. But like the Eagles

620
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Speaker 4: the first time in a while, maybe not that they're

621
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Speaker 4: just the overall most talented team across the board won

622
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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, like I generally would say, that doesn't happen,

623
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Speaker 4: Like it's always kind of the team that gets hot

624
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: and the team that's got the most front to back

625
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 4: talent overall doesn't usually win the Super Bowl. But I like,

626
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Speaker 4: in my mind and again, I wish Paul was here

627
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 4: to be like well in twenty nineteen, duce, so you're

628
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 4: forgetting this, like I'm sure I'm forgetting some of course,

629
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Speaker 4: the Rams were pretty talented back then, you know, a

630
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. But I feel like this is

631
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Speaker 4: one of those ones where it's they kind of did

632
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Speaker 4: it the right way. You have examples of everything. You

633
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Speaker 4: have an AJ Brown trade, you've got a highly drafted

634
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Speaker 4: wide receiver, you got kind of a quarterback you didn't

635
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Speaker 4: take too high, and you kind of developed a little bit.

636
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Speaker 4: So maybe that that's where the.

637
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Speaker 7: Difference would say, Yes, aside from lines, if they were healthy,

638
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Speaker 7: I think they just got bit by the injury bug

639
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 7: and they could have overcome it at the end.

640
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I would some of those Chiefs teams,

641
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 5: like the Tyreek Hill Chiefs teams were loaded, you know,

642
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 5: and those teams, yeah, were successful and a lot of

643
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Speaker 5: the time though, and this was sort of why I

644
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 5: picked Kansas City and the Super Bowl is that, you

645
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: know a lot of these Super Bowls come down to

646
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 5: one score games late in the fourth quarter, and if

647
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 5: you don't have the quarterback that can put the team

648
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Speaker 5: on his back and do it. And my Niners keep

649
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 5: losing in the Super Bowl to Patrick Mahomes because it's

650
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: a one score game, you know, in overtime or in

651
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Speaker 5: the quarter and then he just makes more plays than

652
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Speaker 5: Brock Perty or Jimmy Garoppolo. And I felt that that

653
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Speaker 5: was going to be potentially the way it went for Philly,

654
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Speaker 5: but their talent just completely dominated and they ran away

655
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Speaker 5: from Kansas City.

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Speaker 7: The interest the game would have been interesting. Of de

657
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Speaker 7: Hop caught that pass on the slant and like if

658
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Speaker 7: he ran that in for the touchdown, I think that

659
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 7: maybe could have changed the bar than that, I think

660
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Speaker 7: it was. It was a wash.

661
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Speaker 5: Speaking of the Super Bowl. I have to ask the

662
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Speaker 5: president of the Drake Fan Club, like, how are you doing? Like,

663
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 5: how are you doing? My friend?

664
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Speaker 7: His album drops in tomorrow in twelve hours and.

665
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Speaker 5: If a Tree falls into fourth.

666
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 7: And it wasn't that great? He like, out of all

667
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 7: his songs, he has some good songs, he didn't play

668
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 7: like any of his good ones.

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Speaker 5: That that's true. He did. I mean, I don't say

670
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Speaker 5: it was all about any of his good ones, but

671
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Speaker 5: I we talked about the set list on Tuesday. It

672
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 5: could have been better.

673
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 7: It could have been like Lessen, he could get into

674
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 7: the whole ins and outs of the beef, like I

675
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 7: just didn't think it was good take a beef aside, Like,

676
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 7: he has some very good songs and he didn't play them.

677
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 5: That's true. But one hundred and thirty three million people

678
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Speaker 5: watched Your Boy.

679
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, but then it wasn't more people last year. The

680
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Speaker 7: numbers are all screened. It's twenty verst one in the industry.

681
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Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know people like teas existed.

682
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Speaker 4: Like I thought people either just didn't get or the

683
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Speaker 4: guy it was only best side.

684
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Speaker 7: I fell asleep actually, But.

685
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Speaker 9: Honestly, based on some of the TikTok videos I saw

686
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Speaker 9: in the stand. I think some of the fans did

687
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Speaker 9: the Super Bowl to.

688
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Speaker 7: I don't know. It just wasn't that. Yeah, I've even

689
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Speaker 7: had some Kendrick fan could have been better.

690
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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 5: I was disappointed in the moment. I was like, where

692
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Speaker 5: are my where's my you know o G songs here?

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Speaker 9: I just think you got to bring back pop stars

694
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Speaker 9: and rock bands and.

695
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Speaker 4: Like a medley where it's a few different out of

696
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Speaker 4: the past five.

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Speaker 7: This was the worst one.

698
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Speaker 4: I couldn't even name. I couldn't even Weekend was pretty bad,

699
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: was pretty bad. All I remember is Lady Ga jumping

700
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Speaker 4: off the roof.

701
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: For Katie Carry and was amazing.

702
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Speaker 7: Took it over.

703
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Speaker 11: It was.

704
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 7: Took it over, and then Coldplay was upset and they like.

705
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Speaker 3: But is that why Coldplay had two super Bowls? I think,

706
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Speaker 3: like a couple of years.

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Speaker 8: The greatest half time show was two years ago.

708
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Speaker 9: Eminem honestly the one with all the rappers.

709
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Speaker 5: Like but that's like des Point, Like doctor Dre is

710
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 5: obviously a producer, so he put together like a whole production.

711
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Speaker 7: And I think Drake would have put on a better show.

712
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Speaker 7: It would have been a way better show.

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Speaker 9: Better I think it's Kendrick just brought Lil Wayne and

714
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Speaker 9: it should have been been a little way.

715
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Speaker 3: And you can't, Like it was in New Orleans.

716
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Speaker 5: And that was watch though.

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Speaker 4: If Rick's on there, I'm glad we're getting this out

718
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Speaker 4: of the way without friend and Paul here, and I

719
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Speaker 4: like they'd be even more clueless than I. Actually, I

720
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Speaker 4: take that back, I'm more clueless than them with this,

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Speaker 4: especially Paul. He knows, he knows.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 5: There's an email in there actually from yesterday that I

724
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Speaker 5: was so in the moment I was. I was very

725
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Speaker 5: upset about so I didn't even read it where the

726
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Speaker 5: emailer claimed that Paul knows more about Kendrick than I do,

727
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 5: and that was like, I was like, wait a second here,

728
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: Like Paul, I love Paul, but he will openly admit

729
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Speaker 5: that that is not his slants.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well he did. Like we said, he drives with

731
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Speaker 4: his kids and his kids listen, so he picked it

732
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Speaker 4: up by osmosis a little bit. And my kids aren't

733
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Speaker 4: quite there yet. So I know nothing. I know nothing,

734
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Speaker 4: but I'm learning. I had to make me a mixtape.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys still make mixtapes for people? Is that

736
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Speaker 4: a thing?

737
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Speaker 7: Burn CD is.

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Speaker 3: Recently and it was awesome.

739
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Speaker 5: Yeah. So one of the part of the email too

740
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Speaker 5: was you know Section eighty, which is Kendrick's first album.

741
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Speaker 5: Real Kendrick fans consider it a mixtape because it was free.

742
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Speaker 5: It was a free download on that pif that was

743
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Speaker 5: released back in the days. Yeah, and then once it

744
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: blew up, they put it on iTunes and Spotify and

745
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: all those places. But technically it's a studio album, but

746
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Speaker 5: it's definitely a mixtape.

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Speaker 9: But there was nothing from that, nothing from Good Kid,

748
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 9: Mad City, like swimming Pools right there for you Don't

749
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Speaker 9: Kill My Vibe. That's probably my favorite one Money Trees

750
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Speaker 9: like and like I'm the type of Kendrick fan that,

751
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Speaker 9: like I would want to see like Ronald Reagan era

752
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 9: or like a crazy deep cut song like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, just but it was just all the recent album.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he was trying to promote his tour,

755
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: but that's not what a Super Bowl spots. Yeah, I agree. No,

756
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 5: there could have been do that at Gillette this summer.

757
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 7: Nobody will be there so it literally has already sold out.

758
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Speaker 4: My tis after that, well, hey to Patriots, if you

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Speaker 4: the New England Patriots, Toyota Let's Go Places. And of

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Speaker 4: course it's easy to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud

764
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Speaker 4: Like the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 4: But Like will also be sponsoring our Draft countdown show,

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Speaker 4: which will be starting live from Indianapolis in two weeks.

767
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Speaker 4: And I know the NFL just released the full list

768
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Speaker 4: of all the prospects, and Evan is of course digging

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Speaker 4: on and I've been jumping into and we'll get teas

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Speaker 4: on there. I know you and Chris Will Chris Cassie

771
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Speaker 4: would point out, you guys did the Madden sim this year,

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Speaker 4: a nice addition to our video content. What was what

773
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Speaker 4: was it like this year if you jumping into doing

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Speaker 4: the Maddensions?

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Speaker 7: It was fun, It was awesome. I think Week one

776
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 7: was the best just because we were one point off.

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Speaker 7: But I mean it's tough when the team starts. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's just tough when the team's like not doing that well.

779
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Speaker 7: And like, you know, those last couple of weeks were

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Speaker 7: a grind, but it's always fun and we have some

781
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Speaker 7: surprises for next year, so keep it going.

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Speaker 4: I thought the great thing was when you guys did

783
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Speaker 4: the throwback to the two thousand and five Madam, which

784
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Speaker 4: I actually played a little bit myself.

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Speaker 7: That one. I mean, I think, yeah, oh, five is

786
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Speaker 7: the best man of all time?

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Speaker 5: So which one is the one with Michael Vick on

788
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Speaker 5: the cover?

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Speaker 7: Four?

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Speaker 5: That's four?

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Speaker 7: Five brought in the hit stick. That's the best, Okay,

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 5: The only thing I didn't like is when Madden brought

794
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Speaker 5: in the QB vision.

795
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Speaker 7: Remember that that was six or seven.

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Speaker 5: I didn't like that. Didn't care for it.

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Speaker 13: No.

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Speaker 7: Five was great, And it's funny because I remember playing

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Speaker 7: that as a kid, and I would get up to

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Speaker 7: like twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I was just gonna say, right Like

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Speaker 4: that was like I would always I would always sim

803
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Speaker 4: seasons and I would have like the twenty twenty five Patriots.

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Speaker 4: It would be filled with players that did not even exist,

805
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Speaker 4: and then I draft somebody. Then he'd be like, you

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Speaker 4: know whatever, like a ninety nine rating. I'd trade him

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Speaker 4: for another first round pick and just you know, the

808
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Speaker 4: cycle continues. Was it fun?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I was blowing team left and right.

810
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Speaker 4: But it was cool though.

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Speaker 7: Stats Drake May started off as a seventy something. He's

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Speaker 7: just like progressing because at live updates throughout the season,

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Speaker 7: and then like you know, he's all of a sudden

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Speaker 7: eighty nine speed and he's tugging and running. So that's

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Speaker 7: what happens.

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Speaker 5: I always remember like playing Madden and then like Brady

817
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Speaker 5: would retire, he'd be.

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Speaker 7: Like, no year I started doing that, like twenty twelve.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It would always be like hey, coach, and you would

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Speaker 5: like come into like this Brady, like you know, video

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Speaker 5: game version would be like you.

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Speaker 4: Just find another ninety nine QB somewhere, so some random

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Speaker 4: guy right.

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Speaker 7: Change with with Peyton Manning and the five one is

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Speaker 7: that they would always have him doing his Cadence and Audibling.

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Speaker 7: So it was like the longest sim ever because he's

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Speaker 7: taking thirty seconds every play.

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Speaker 4: The funny thing was I would come into like I

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Speaker 4: think it was maybe you guys shot it before we

832
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Speaker 4: did the previewing here, and the guys would be doing

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Speaker 4: the Madden sim in here and you guys were just

834
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Speaker 4: watching it happen as it did so many crazy we

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Speaker 4: did it.

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Speaker 7: We did it one take every single time, so tried

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Speaker 7: to keep it as true as possible. But I'm excited

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Speaker 7: for a man twenty.

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Speaker 4: People accuse you guys of like breaking it.

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Speaker 7: Oh all the time, all the time, but we kept

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Speaker 7: it one take every time, just like the Chiefs. The

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Speaker 7: only time we did we would we would do two

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00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 7: was like a last second QB change, which happened a

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Speaker 7: couple of times. But right are than that?

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Speaker 4: What was the final record of them Madden sim Patriots.

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Speaker 7: Eight and nine? I think there much better?

847
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Speaker 4: How many wins do.

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Speaker 7: They have there?

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Speaker 4: We go hopefully this year? Well, let's let's jump over

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Speaker 4: to the tp X hotline. Our phones were a little

851
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Speaker 4: wonky last week, but we think we've we've got them

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00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 4: fixed and uh, Matt, Matt's giving me double the doubles listening.

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00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 9: You're like, hello, Patty, you there, and you can hear

854
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 9: Patty Patty was getting.

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00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: You held up at gun point like you heard some

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00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 4: guy like yelling at I don't I don't know what

857
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: was going on with that one, but U. But let's

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Speaker 4: let's jump up there to our neighbors in the North

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Speaker 4: Seawan and Vancouver. Hey, Sean, congrats on a nice win

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Speaker 4: by your team Canada. I don't know if you watched

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00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: that one last night with the what is the Nation's

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Speaker 4: tournament or Nations tournament?

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Speaker 5: Hey Shaw?

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Speaker 11: Thanks?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, No, I'm not a hockey guy crip in Montreal,

866
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Speaker 15: and I had to leave because I don't speak French

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Speaker 15: or play hockey, so they kicked me out.

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Speaker 4: But so you're the one.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I have quite a bit to to say about

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Speaker 15: Super Bowl. Just off the back, my favorite commercial was

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Speaker 15: the Dura Cell one. I just love that that line

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00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 15: about the rose that that was really funny. But onto

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00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 15: what the Patriot takeaways from this game? The main thing

874
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 15: I took away was the trenches. I mean, yeah, Mahome

875
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 15: had a bad game, you know, Yeah, he's even like

876
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 15: with no pressure. He made mistakes, he threw an interception

877
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 15: with he had time in the pocket and and and

878
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 15: but I think like really like even from early in

879
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 15: the game, he had like happy feet. He's dancing around

880
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 15: because of that format pressure or even three man pressure,

881
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 15: like they kept like for the first three quarters the

882
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 15: Eagles got I think around forty six pressure ray uh

883
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 15: and that just just got it got to him and

884
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 15: that that was a big thing. And on the other

885
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 15: side of the ball. The Chiefs sold out to stop Barkley,

886
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 15: and that's why the Hurts looked pretty good. You took

887
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 15: taking advantage of single coverage both times against Watson, who

888
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 15: look good to the previous games when they played the

889
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 15: Bills and the Texans. But in that game, you know,

890
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 15: he's got no help and even Dawson is beating him.

891
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 15: So that's that's the thing. When you can win and

892
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 15: have those monster just great players on the trench, just

893
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 15: like on the offensive line and defensive line, that just

894
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 15: makes all the difference in the world. And I think

895
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 15: that's what the Patriot should take away from this is, Hey,

896
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 15: you know what we really really need to focus. We

897
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 15: need to get a pass rush, We need to get

898
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 15: a nose tackle, We need to get the tackles that

899
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 15: can play and maybe a guard and just like just

900
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 15: beep up that and protect Drake May and make sure

901
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 15: that the quarterbacks are not comfortable.

902
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: So that's my ticket.

903
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 15: I'll let you guys comment on that. Thanks.

904
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: Thanks Sean. I guess it's for me. Like the one

905
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: thing is I feel like Kansas City has tried a

906
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: lot to get their offensive line in shape, and they

907
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: have a lot of really good pieces. I mean, you know,

908
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: Creed humph and Joe Tooney and Tray Smith really well respected,

909
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: and the tackle position has just been a problem for

910
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: them and injuries have heard, but they've tried to draft,

911
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: They've drafted guys that we like, and it's like, as

912
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: much as you know, and I totally get Sean's point,

913
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: but at the same time, it's like even the best

914
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 4: laid plans, there's no guarantee that it's going to carry

915
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: you through three or four games in the playoffs. And

916
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: that's a problem for them. And you know, if they

917
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 4: had played better, would we still be saying the same

918
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 4: thing about you know, Philly's defensive line. I mean, the

919
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: Patriots and O seven had a pretty good offensive line too,

920
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: with you know, Logan Mankins and Matt Laighton, guys that

921
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: we all believed in, and then they got to the

922
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 4: Super Bowl and they just didn't have it that day,

923
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I know one of them, Logan Banks,

924
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: had an ACL tear, which God bless him. But you know,

925
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 4: I just I get what he's saying. I just I

926
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: just tie it back to we always kind of overreact

927
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: to what exactly happened in one specific game and I

928
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 4: respect the hell out of Philly's defensive front.

929
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: Yeah no, I hear what you're saying. And a lot

930
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: of what Philly did on the offensive line. It goes

931
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 5: back to coaching too. You know, Jeff Stallin's one of

932
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 5: the best offensive line coaches maybe of all time. Not

933
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 5: be because we you know that guy coached here, but

934
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: he you know, he's in the conversation. He's on the

935
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 5: Mount rushmore and you know, he takes a guy like

936
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 5: Jordan Mylotta, who is a rugby player that gets drafted

937
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 5: in on like the seventh round, and he turns him

938
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 5: into one of the best left tackles in football. You know,

939
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 5: he takes Makai Beckton, turns him into a guard, and

940
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 5: all of a sudden he's like a really good guard

941
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 5: for Philly last year. So you know, to your point,

942
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 5: like drafting and developing talent on the roster is such

943
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 5: a big part of this whole conversation. And Kansas City,

944
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: you know, the draft Kingsley, Sue Mattia and Wanya Morris

945
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: and like all these other guys and they just haven't hit,

946
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 5: like they haven't been able to hit at that position.

947
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 5: So it's it's one thing to it's the obvious takeaway

948
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 5: is that the trenches or why Philly is dominant. But

949
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 5: to build what they built is easier said than done.

950
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: It's so hard. I mean, like the Patriots, that's I mean,

951
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: I think a lot of us would say offensive line,

952
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: offensive tackle is the biggest priority of this offseason. Just

953
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 4: you got to figure out a way to get that right.

954
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 4: And I think Kansas City and probably a number of

955
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: other teams are saying the exact same thing. So all

956
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: these guys are gonna have so much competition. It's just

957
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: it's it's so hard. I mean, I know, you have

958
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: a rant evan about any any to any any tackle

959
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 4: that comes in the combine, and he's probably a guard.

960
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 5: I mean every single one, every single one like you're reading,

961
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 5: like Kelvin Banks is now probably a guard. Like he's

962
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 5: gonna have like thirty five inch arms and he's he's

963
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 5: gonna be a guard. But that to your point of

964
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of teams are looking for tackle

965
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 5: play like this is part of the reason why I

966
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 5: am seriously considering Will Campbell at four because when you

967
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 5: get back to thirty eight, like all the guys that

968
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: people think might be there, like I don't know if

969
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 5: they're gonna be there, Like Josh Simmons, you know, Jordan,

970
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 5: Josh Connolly, Like these guys could all get drafted very

971
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 5: easily at the end of the first round by all

972
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 5: these teams that are just looking for, you know, tackles

973
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 5: all over the place, Kansas City, San Francisco. Uh, you know,

974
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 5: go down the list and are these guys gonna fly

975
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: off the board? You know, is a tackle at thirty

976
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: eight and to be a player that can step in

977
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: and play right away, Like, I have serious doubts that

978
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 5: that's going to be the case. And now you're talking

979
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 5: about trading back up or like trying to get creative

980
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 5: in turn, trying to split the atom at a position

981
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 5: that you feel I feel like you've been doing that

982
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 5: for years at this point of like trying to to

983
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 5: thread the needle at tackle instead of just addressing it

984
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 5: head on.

985
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: It's like overvaluing the quarterback position. Do we start overvaluing

986
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: tackles a little bit? When you know you just say, look,

987
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: it's it's maybe we're overdrafting this guy a little bit,

988
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 4: but so vital there is no supply, Yeah, demand is

989
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: super high. We have a chance at this guy I

990
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: just I think this is one case though, where I'd

991
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 4: really like to get one answer in free agency, one

992
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: answer in free agency, not have to go into the

993
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: draft being like, we got a big, fat hole at

994
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: left tackle and we need Will Campbell or whoever to

995
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: fill it, and we might get screwed if we don't.

996
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: So it's great debate. We'll have plenty of talk for it.

997
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: And fortunately I don't think we'll see the offensive lineman

998
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: at the combine, but plenty attention going to them. Let's

999
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: go back to the phones again, John la longtime listener. Hey, John,

1000
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: thanks for calling in.

1001
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 16: Hey is going good, good, good good.

1002
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 17: I have a couple of quick drafts things that are

1003
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 17: oddly specific that I just thought it might you know,

1004
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 17: first in conversation, if the Patriots were to trade out

1005
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 17: of the top six team I select a non lineman

1006
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 17: in round one, who do you guys take?

1007
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 4: I like Luther Burden, Thanks Sean.

1008
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: So if non linemen, I look at those tight ends, like,

1009
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 5: if you're not going to go with an offensive lineman

1010
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 5: or defensive lineman, Tyler Warren, Colson Lovelin like those two

1011
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 5: guys to me are the best playmakers in the draft

1012
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 5: outside of outside of Travis Hunter. If he's going to

1013
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 5: play receiver, which we can talk about. The combine invites

1014
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 5: listed to him as a as a defensive back, so

1015
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 5: at least the NFL is trying to push him on

1016
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 5: to the defensive side of the ball. But I would

1017
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: look at those tight ends. I like Luther Burden a

1018
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: lot too. My kind of guy. You're kind of like

1019
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 5: Zay Flowers ish, you know, explosive player, good with the

1020
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 5: ball in his hands, it gets open. Definitely the type

1021
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: of receiver I tend to gravitate towards. I just wonder

1022
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 5: if he's gonna be caught in that like no man's

1023
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 5: land between four and thirty eight, you know, somewhere early twenties,

1024
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 5: late teens, and it's like, you know, how do you

1025
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 5: really get your hands on that player in the right

1026
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 5: range of the draft. So I anticipate a lot of

1027
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 5: those guys similar to the class a couple of years

1028
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: ago with JSN and Flowers and Addison and Quentin Johnson

1029
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 5: all kind of going in a run. I would have

1030
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 5: think that, you know, Luther Burden, Bouka, Matthew Golden, like

1031
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 5: those guys I would anticipate are all going to kind

1032
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 5: of go in the twenties and fly off the board there,

1033
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: So you're gonna have to position yourself to get him.

1034
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 5: But I do like Luther Burdon a lot.

1035
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 7: I think Travis Hunter. But like do said, it just

1036
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 7: depends what you're doing free agency. Like if you're able

1037
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 7: to get a receiver like then let's change the strategy there.

1038
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 7: So it all just depends what you do.

1039
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I throw Walker and Williams from Georgia

1040
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: in the mix a little bit. I mean, I just

1041
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: think those Georgia guys up front, and you got big

1042
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: needs on defense. I could see, I mean I think

1043
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: it said a Tuesday, I mean, not that it's gonna happen,

1044
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: but you could see them literally plugging those two guys

1045
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 4: into the starting lineup immediately in you know, in two positions.

1046
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 4: So but yeah, lots to consider there on the draft.

1047
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: Of course, that's what we'll be doing for the next

1048
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: few months. Let's head uh up to Portland. Believe it's

1049
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: maybe out to Portland, Oregon, maybe up north to Portland,

1050
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 4: Maine to Justin, Hey, Justin, Hey.

1051
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 11: What's up, guys. This is actly Chester and Portland.

1052
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: Old long time caller, all right, one of the wanted

1053
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: to chime in. Nice job holding things down with out

1054
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: the old guys in the booth today. Cant can't imagine

1055
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: what's on their mind if they happened to Madam Finn's

1056
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: and halftime shows. What sure has evolved? Actually ran into

1057
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: Fred when he was here in Arizona, and Uh we

1058
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: were talking about trying to make the show.

1059
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 11: Younger and clairly we're making strides there.

1060
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 12: But.

1061
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: Some more than others.

1062
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: A couple of things have been on my mind. U,

1063
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: you were absolutely spot on Cooper to Gen what what

1064
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: a balan?

1065
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 13: Uh?

1066
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: This great player? When he made that six six, I

1067
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: thought he right away is like Mandu just called that

1068
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: all the way back in the draft time. A couple

1069
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: couple of things on my mind that's kind of aggravating me,

1070
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: This minitary discussion with past nation. There's so much, so

1071
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: many fans that are just a poult with him not

1072
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: getting in first ballot, and you know, I feel like

1073
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: the guys that got in, for.

1074
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 11: The most part, were pretty deserving.

1075
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: I have no doubt he'll get back in, but you know,

1076
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: it's just I had to deal with a lot of

1077
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: argument back and forth.

1078
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 11: That's you know that's.

1079
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: Taking place, and I feel like, you know, kickers, they

1080
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: play a fraction and that of the snaps of these

1081
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: these other guys, and you know, if that was doing,

1082
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: but you know, I think we need to pump the

1083
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: brakes on, you know, being appalled on him not getting

1084
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: in on the first ballot, first run. The second thing

1085
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: is this Brady just Brady mahomes goat conversation, kind of

1086
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: surprised at how insecure pastination is about the ammunition that was,

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Speaker 1: you know, really set into that week going into the

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00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: super Bowl and.

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Speaker 11: The clear clear now you know.

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Speaker 1: Who the king is here. But you know, I think

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00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: we need to have a little bit more stock in

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00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: that twenty years of greatness and and realize that that

1093
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: no one's gonna touch this guy, no matter how good

1094
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: they are. You know, Brady is the absolute king. And

1095
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: you know that was just a nice silver lining to

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00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: that super Bowl. And then lastly, you know, the blueprint

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00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: is getting getting the trenches resolved.

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Speaker 11: You know, we want to get.

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Speaker 1: The best players there, but we've got to get the

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Speaker 1: trenches addressed. And clearly Philly was case in point with

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00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: a lot of that is they just they won that

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00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: game right there in the trenches. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the big direction is we're all feeling pretty optimistic about

1104
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, where we're going now with Grabel at the Helm.

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00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: But those are really my points today. A big shout

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00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: out to the PFW Elite crew, Sean and Johnny from

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00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: LA both guys, you know, long time listeners.

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Speaker 11: And I just wanted to give a shout.

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Speaker 1: Also to the old school college pushing Chrystals to t

1110
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Speaker 1: I N. Melvin, Eldrid Patty from Aguam.

1111
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 11: He's got in Chicago. We need to hear more from

1112
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 11: you guys, and let's bring the show back. Let's go

1113
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 11: past great.

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Speaker 4: Great thanks chesster appreciate it. Yeah, that's a real quick

1115
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: That's why I give Alex a shout out for the newsletter.

1116
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like, you know, trying to take

1117
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: not only those old callers and people who have been

1118
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 4: you know, part of the show forever, but you know,

1119
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 4: trying to bring even new listeners in and and really

1120
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: trying to build that community. So they'll be out tomorrow,

1121
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: So make sure you sign up for the newsletter.

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Speaker 3: A good one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex was giggling.

1124
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 5: And want me to see but you know what, just

1125
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 5: to the call real quick though. I'm going to defend

1126
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 5: the ball like in every Patriots fansion with him, I

1127
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 5: am not like do you all last week we had

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00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 5: to listen to Patrick mahomes Is in the conversation it's

1129
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 5: not even close, and don't listen to Paul. They weren't

1130
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 5: talking about oh, his first seven seasons versus Brady's. No,

1131
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 5: they were saying that if mahomes three peated that he

1132
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 5: had a conversation or had a seat at the table,

1133
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 5: is the greatest of all time. And he's not even

1134
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: close yet. So Patriots fans, take your victory lap and stand.

1135
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 7: Your ground with Evan. We literally have the answer to

1136
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 7: if mj and Lebron played like they literally played in

1137
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 7: the finals, and like Brady won and then he stole

1138
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 7: another ring off his finger. It's just very frustrating.

1139
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: Well that's what it is.

1140
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 9: It's frustration because we feel like it's such like a

1141
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 9: low iq just media fodder argument, right like just like

1142
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 9: Jordan versus lebron Is. And but it's so frustrating to

1143
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 9: have to hear and be subjected to so it does

1144
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 9: rile you up.

1145
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: So I agree with both hands.

1146
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 7: There's been no scandals, like just nothing like it's been

1147
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 7: smooth sailing for them. They get brock Party who decides

1148
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 7: to lay an egg in the Super Bowl Jimmy g

1149
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 7: throws a duck in the last play of the game, Like,

1150
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 7: come on, we had four acts of God or three

1151
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 7: acts of God to beat Tom Brady. Yeah, and it's

1152
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 7: just it's very frustrating. So I'm with Evan on this.

1153
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 5: I also disagree with him on Adam and Erry, Like

1154
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 5: what more does a kicker could possibly do? He's got

1155
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 5: the most points in NFL history, the most field goals

1156
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 5: in NFL history, the most the hardest, the most clutch

1157
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 5: kicks in NFL history.

1158
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Speaker 7: Can't I him?

1159
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: So if he's not going to make the Hall of Fame,

1160
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 5: then a kicker should never make the Hall of Fame.

1161
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 5: And I'm sure he'll get in eventually, but I think

1162
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 5: the frustration for me is that, oh, there's favoritism to

1163
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 5: certain franchises with the Hall of Fame that these voters

1164
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 5: just typically gravitate towards, like the Packers, the Steelers, the Cowboys,

1165
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 5: Like it's the same teams over and over again that

1166
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 5: always get their guys through, even if it's not in

1167
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 5: a timely fashion. They like always get like Sterling Sharp

1168
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 5: getting in, Like good player, but like, is he really

1169
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 5: you know a guy that oh thank god he got in. No,

1170
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 5: but he was a Green Bay packer, you know, and

1171
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 5: he was successful with the Packers. So eventually that type

1172
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: of guy is going to get in. And until the

1173
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 5: Patriots dynasty is on par with the other dynasties, the

1174
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: great dynasties in terms of volume of Hall of Famers,

1175
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Speaker 5: I'm going to continue to be pissed off about it.

1176
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Speaker 4: He also tackled herschel Walker, which I think would be

1177
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Speaker 4: a great Hall of Fame video highlight to put up

1178
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 4: there of not just a kicker, but a football player.

1179
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 4: And one other thing I would say is Bill Belichick

1180
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Speaker 4: talking about that two thousand and one season called out

1181
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: in Vinitarry their best player, you know, the best, our

1182
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 4: best player was going to try to make that last kick.

1183
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 4: I think that speaks volumes, So I absolutely it would

1184
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 4: have been a nice way for the NFL to send

1185
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: a message and be like, look, kickers get some disrespect,

1186
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: but this guy is the greatest kicker for a variety

1187
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: of reasons, not just the volume played a long time,

1188
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: guess he picked up some stats, but also just the

1189
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Speaker 4: quality of the kicks. I mean, you know, I don't

1190
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Speaker 4: have to tell the stories again about him hitting that

1191
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 4: kick in two thousand and one where Paul said you

1192
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: couldn't even see the other end of the stadium the

1193
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Speaker 4: snow is coming down so hard. I mean, it's just

1194
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Speaker 4: those two kicks. Crazy. So I'm sure he'll get in.

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Speaker 4: I think it was what he surpassed the.

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Speaker 3: Voting the voters with AI.

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Speaker 5: He'll definitely get in, And so I understand the point

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Speaker 5: of that. But it's not just vinitary, Like they can't

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Speaker 5: even get Rodney in and they can't even get him

1200
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Speaker 5: as a finalist this year, like he's not even on

1201
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 5: the ballot to get in. You know, guys like Teddy Bruce,

1202
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: say Vince, like those guys would all be if those

1203
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 5: were nineteen seventies Pittsburgh Steelers, they would have walked into

1204
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame. And now that with the Patriots,

1205
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 5: it's like, we can't let those guys in. So, uh,

1206
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 5: this goes right up my butt. I have a real

1207
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 5: issue with the Hall of Fame. I really just like

1208
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 5: cannot stand the Hall of Fame. I can't stand the voters.

1209
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 5: I can't stand the process.

1210
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 7: Love it.

1211
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: They have absolutely no transparency whatsoever. We have no idea

1212
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: who's voting and who's voting for what, And it's just

1213
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: a it's an absolute joke. I'm sorry.

1214
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 7: I would have lost my mind.

1215
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Speaker 4: That's true. So back to the TPX hotline here with

1216
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: Eric in New Jersey hair.

1217
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 11: Hey, how you guys doing good?

1218
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 16: I got just two I'm just to speak on two

1219
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 16: players here. I know we talked about very well. Is

1220
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 16: the culture that he wants to bring in and you know,

1221
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 16: you guys, I know you guys even mentioned you know,

1222
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 16: Kendrick bourde as a you know, the culture guy here.

1223
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 16: But I just don't I just see the dis can

1224
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 16: I understand his teammates, players love them, but for him

1225
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 16: to be the you know, quote unquote number one and

1226
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 16: you know, that leader in that room for a guy

1227
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 16: that put a nine year better and that was continuously

1228
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 16: out of position, you know, even him in and you

1229
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 16: know postgame conferences, you know he's in the wrong spot.

1230
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 16: He's in the wrong place. How is he supposed to

1231
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 16: be a guy that's supposed to be looked at?

1232
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 11: You're going to bring the.

1233
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 16: Young guys into this you know, organization into that room,

1234
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 16: and this is the guy that you know, cannot you know,

1235
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 16: cannot run, you know, run the right route, get to

1236
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 16: the right spot. You know, kind of just want to

1237
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 16: speak on that. And then Christian Barmore, I think he's

1238
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 16: somewhat of a mythical dragon. You know, I love I

1239
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 16: love him. You know, year three was great. Obviously his

1240
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 16: past year with injuries, I mean, with his health concerns,

1241
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 16: but I mean he really have one one and a

1242
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 16: half seasons of production, and we're you know, we're glamoring that.

1243
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 16: You know, defensive tackle isn't quite a need. And I'm

1244
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 16: not saying Mason Graham is the you know, the answer,

1245
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 16: but I think we need a little bit more attention

1246
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 16: brought to that position.

1247
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 11: And I'll take it off the.

1248
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Speaker 5: Line and thank god, thanks Eric.

1249
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 4: Uh Yeah, I think Christian Barber is one of the

1250
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 4: great unknowns of this offseason. And certainly, you know, if

1251
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 4: you were to find out in May, oh, by the way,

1252
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: Christian Barber can't play, and you had passed on Mason Graham,

1253
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: maybe you know, that might look a little bit different.

1254
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 4: Hoping that he's able to come back. I think it's

1255
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 4: a key part. I think he fits the new style

1256
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: of defense that we believe they're gonna play. But he's

1257
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 4: a key part. He's a key part of it. And

1258
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 4: it's hard to imagine this. You know, you feel like

1259
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: you've already got one of the pieces on the defensive

1260
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 4: line that you know, the previous caller talked about trying

1261
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 4: to build that type of offense or defensive line that's

1262
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 4: so disruptive, and that's what Christian Barmore is when he's

1263
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: at his best. I just think for the Patriots defense

1264
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 4: to really take a step forward this year, they need

1265
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 4: Christian Barmore. It's hard to build from the bottom up

1266
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: with really nothing if you don't have him.

1267
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think maybe we're not giving enough airtime to

1268
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 5: the defensive line, but I feel like we are. Like

1269
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 5: I feel like we talk about it all the time,

1270
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 5: and it's not just defensive tackles. You know, we talk

1271
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 5: about guys on the edge too, you know, Abdul Carter,

1272
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 5: we talked about Mike Green in the last show.

1273
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: You know, I skirtin.

1274
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Speaker 5: It's a big, big need, you know, it's a big need.

1275
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 5: Especially I would say like true defensive ends that can

1276
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 5: play all three downs, that are all purpose players, that

1277
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 5: can hold up against the run and can rush the passer.

1278
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 5: They don't they seem to have gotten into that Belichick like,

1279
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: you know, rotation of this guy's a pass rusher, that

1280
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 5: guy's a run defender. You Devon Godshaw, good player, but

1281
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 5: he's like a down player, you know, Joshua ja good player,

1282
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 5: but he can't play all three downs. And Bill was

1283
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 5: able to mix and match those types of guys and

1284
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: use them to their strengths. But you would like to

1285
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: be able to have guys that can play a little

1286
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 5: bit more in terms of their usage, like Christian Barmore

1287
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 5: who can play in all situations. So I think it's

1288
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 5: a huge need and it's a good class, so I

1289
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 5: hope that they hit it.

1290
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Speaker 4: That's what I said about the Georgia kids.

1291
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 7: I mean, just yeah, I can't go wrong with the

1292
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 7: Georgia guys.

1293
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 4: No, I'll just ask, well, that's I mean, that's kind

1294
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 4: of all Philly's philosophy, like Georgia, Georgia. Yeah, yeah, Nico, Yeah.

1295
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 5: They get a lot of credit for just going and

1296
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 5: downloading the consensus board and just like drafting all the

1297
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 5: brand names. They like to do that in phil.

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Speaker 4: Let's take another call here on the TPX hotline before

1299
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: we take a quick lunch break. Patty and I go on, Patty,

1300
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 4: you're back. What's up?

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00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 7: Man?

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 18: Hey?

1303
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: Can everyone hear me say?

1304
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got you? Well, you were getting like robbed

1305
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: or something in that the last car or was that

1306
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: not you?

1307
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 12: No? That was me.

1308
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 19: I just I lost my head for a moment because

1309
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 19: like the first two called Bilt, first two calls Bill.

1310
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 19: So I was back at my shop and got kind

1311
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 19: of got into a little mock scouting.

1312
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 4: That all right, good, So I wasn't crazy, because that's

1313
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 4: what I thought was like, what is going on? Sounds

1314
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 4: like you're in the middle of a battle.

1315
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 19: It was innocuous, but like like I told, uh snick Chester,

1316
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 19: like if you guys have held me on for like

1317
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 19: another five seconds, I think I went on kind of

1318
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 19: like a pretty big profanity tirade right after I checked

1319
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 19: my phone, Like I was like, oh man, I got

1320
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 19: disconnected again.

1321
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 4: Paul started giving your let's get them. That's all right,

1322
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: what's going on today?

1323
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 19: So just going back to uh, last weekend, I'm gonna

1324
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 19: answer the question. But going back to last weekend, I

1325
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 19: think I had a really good time Sunday.

1326
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 11: I took Monday out of work.

1327
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 19: I had such such good of a time that I

1328
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 19: ended up with a big thing. One of my favorite Patriots.

1329
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 19: For sure, Fred would be proud of me. But I

1330
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 19: think the biggest losers to kind of tear it. What

1331
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 19: it Evan said wasn't on the field. It was the

1332
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 19: frigging Hall of Fame voters. I mean, the fact that

1333
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 19: Luke Keekley and Adam DINISII didn't get in, in my opinion,

1334
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 19: being an NFL fan for almost forty years is just ridiculous.

1335
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 19: And Eric Allen and sterlind Sharp really, I mean, those

1336
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 19: guys are good, but were they Hall of Famers? I

1337
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 19: don't think so. So the question I wanted to throw

1338
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 19: us to you guys, if if Brabel ends up going

1339
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 19: with the four man front, does the key On White

1340
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 19: play defensive tackle or does he play defensive end? And

1341
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 19: I'll pick it out there.

1342
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 7: Guys love it.

1343
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1344
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: I mean I I try him out at left defensive end.

1345
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 7: I try.

1346
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: I just I think he struggles against tackles. I think

1347
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 4: he kind of was a one trick pony rushing from

1348
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: the outside. You like him when he reduces inside on

1349
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 4: passing downs, that's.

1350
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 7: Probably a spot.

1351
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 4: So you know it said that about Barmore. I think

1352
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 4: he can make up for some of Barmore if you

1353
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: if you were to lose barmb more and I think

1354
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 4: him and Barmore together inside will be great. But I

1355
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: think I got real questions about how he how exactly

1356
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: he fits and if I don't know if he's that

1357
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: guy that Evan mentioned where we need a three down

1358
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 4: defensive end, I don't I don't know if he's that guy,

1359
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 4: I'd give him a chance at that spot. I'd let

1360
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: him stand up a little bit too, But I think

1361
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 4: he is real questions about how he fits in as

1362
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: a three down player.

1363
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like can he be a four to three end

1364
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: in a in a more you know, aggressive front, Like

1365
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 5: maybe I could see that, especially down in a three

1366
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: point stance. He seems to generate more power and more

1367
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 5: explosiveness than when he's up on his feet for whatever reason,

1368
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 5: So maybe that helps. But I definitely think he's at

1369
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 5: his best rushing over guards on passing downs. You know,

1370
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 5: that seems to be where he's at.

1371
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: It's good at it. I mean, he's good legit at legit,

1372
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 4: good at it. Yeah, I doubt I feel the same way.

1373
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he might be the type of player

1374
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 5: that you want more in a rotation, Like if you

1375
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 5: can get somebody that can be a first and second

1376
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 5: down player and then he only plays in passing situations

1377
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: and that maybe that gets a little bit more out

1378
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 5: of him, Like maybe he's not seventy five seventy snap usage.

1379
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 4: I just look at that position. I don't think they

1380
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: have a real legit four to three defensive end on

1381
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: the roster. I mean, and maybe you could say Tetrick

1382
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: Wise a free agent, maybe you could say he could

1383
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 4: be one. I think, but I think we kind of

1384
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 4: know what he is at this point. He's you know,

1385
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: it's not like his game is gonna jump to another

1386
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 4: level now because you're playing more of an even front.

1387
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 4: But it's a great question, and I think, again, this

1388
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 4: is a stat class and that second pick to me,

1389
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: you know, if you get Will Campbell up top, you

1390
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 4: take care of the tackle need and you say, all right,

1391
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 4: we got a guy have some fun in that bought

1392
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: low twenties. I mean, some of these guys are gonna

1393
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: are going to get through.

1394
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 11: All right.

1395
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: Let's take one more call here from Donald Virginia and

1396
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna take a quick break. Hey dump, Hey, I on,

1397
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: You're on, what's going on?

1398
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 11: Okay?

1399
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 5: Cool?

1400
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 6: And I feel like a pool because I hear that

1401
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 6: all the time I'm listening to the show, and I

1402
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 6: always wonder why people do that, But I can understand

1403
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 6: now it sounds a little bit different on this end,

1404
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, I won't believe in that point. I just

1405
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 6: got a quick question to all of you. When it

1406
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 6: comes to talking about giving Drake May some weapons, talk

1407
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 6: about free agency, and I'll throw my caveat here. I apologize.

1408
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 6: I haven't listened at all this week due to work.

1409
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 6: It's my first opportunity, so I kind of want to

1410
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 6: just put out there the feelers when we talk about

1411
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 6: wide receivers. Is chatter about well mat chatter, but reports

1412
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 6: that the Rams are looking to move on from Cooper

1413
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 6: Cup debo. Apparently some forty nine ers looking to go.

1414
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 6: Are these anybody that you think would be good for

1415
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 6: the team? I know in the past we've taken some

1416
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 6: of the old heads, brought them on and we've had

1417
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 6: some success and we've had some failures along the way

1418
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 6: as well. Both are good players, but both have had

1419
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 6: their struggles over the past few years.

1420
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 5: So I just want to float that.

1421
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 6: I'll take it off air and see what you guys say.

1422
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks Tom, I've heard what Evan said the past

1423
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 7: couple shows. Now I'm with him, just like we don't

1424
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 7: need those agent receiver We could use Cooper Cup and

1425
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 7: Mac Joneses last year like Devo back then. Like, I

1426
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 7: just don't think the team is ready for a thirty

1427
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 7: one year old vet that's like, you know, probably still

1428
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 7: wants to try to get a ring pretty soon.

1429
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just it baffles me that people want like

1430
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 5: a babysitter in the room, and they want that babysitter

1431
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 5: to be a twenty million dollar a year player. Like

1432
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 5: it's one thing to go out there and get, you know,

1433
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 5: somebody that you feel good about in terms of veteran

1434
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 5: leadership and stuff like that at a reasonable cost. But

1435
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 5: you're not paying Cooper Cup twenty million dollars to come

1436
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 5: hold kaishaan Booty and Pop Douglas in Jalen Polk's hand.

1437
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 5: Like he's got to be doing more than just that

1438
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 5: for that kind of money. So that's only if they

1439
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 5: think he still has something in the tank and he's

1440
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 5: still going to contribute and he's still going to be

1441
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 5: like a top you know, a number one, low end,

1442
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 5: number one, high end, number two receiver. And that's one thing,

1443
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 5: but if you're just bringing him in for an adult

1444
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 5: in the room and that contract has got to be

1445
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 5: restructured and reworked, and now you're getting into a situation

1446
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 5: where he's going to a team that's not a not

1447
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 5: competing for a super Bowl for less money, Like what's

1448
01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 5: in it for Cooper Cup?

1449
01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 11: Now?

1450
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 5: Like it's just it's a tough one for me. And

1451
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 5: I'd say the same with Debo, like to find like

1452
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 5: for both sides, Like what's the argument for both sides?

1453
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I would say, and I kind of

1454
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 4: got a lukewarm take on this one and that like

1455
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: I'm not clamoring for those guys, but if they somehow

1456
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 4: worked it out and they wanted to come here, I

1457
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 4: just think with the position in the shape that it's in,

1458
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 4: they need bodies and I would, you know, I would

1459
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 4: welcome a Cooper Cup in that receiver room and setting

1460
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 4: the tone and is he at the end Probably I'm

1461
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 4: not planning on the table for him, but I wouldn't

1462
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 4: be like that's a terrible.

1463
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 7: Move, you know.

1464
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 4: I just I look at it. I think they need

1465
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: two receivers. They need two legit receivers, and if one

1466
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: of them is you know, Chris Godwin coming off an

1467
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: injury something like that. You know, I get the arguments

1468
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 4: for is he gonna be with Drake in success? Well,

1469
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 4: they got to get the plane off the ground first

1470
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 4: before we talk about like the success and competing for championships,

1471
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 4: Like you got to get things moving. You need a

1472
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 4: receiver who can come in and give Drake that level

1473
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 4: of trust where when I need to throw the ball

1474
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 4: on third and long, I know where he's gonna be

1475
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 4: and he's gonna be there every time. It kind of

1476
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 4: goes back to what one of the last callers was

1477
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 4: saying about about Kendrick Bourne, who I will just throw in,

1478
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 4: like coming off in acl last year, I give him

1479
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 4: a tiny, tiny tiny bit of like let's see how

1480
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 4: it looks this year, Josh coming back. But again I

1481
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: still come from a place where we need two guys, two.

1482
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 7: Guys I agree, Like, if you're getting t Higgins and

1483
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 7: Cooper Cupp, that changes your whole draft strategy because now

1484
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 7: you don't need to get Tet or maybe Travis if

1485
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 7: he's playing receivers. So I'm so sick of whiffing on

1486
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 7: receivers in the draft that I'd rather sign somebody in

1487
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 7: free agency, but just needs to be right guy.

1488
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what the appeal to Godwin is to me.

1489
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 5: I just know how this works in this building a

1490
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 5: lot of the time. And if they're paying real money

1491
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 5: to a free agent wide receiver, a guy like Cooper Cup,

1492
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 5: like that's your move a wide receiver, like they're not

1493
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 5: gonna then go out and trade for Cooper Cup and

1494
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 5: signed T Higgins or a trade for Cooper Cup and

1495
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 5: draft Ted McMillan, Like they're not going to put that

1496
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 5: many eggs into one position basket. I don't think so.

1497
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 5: If that's your move, then that's your move in a

1498
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 5: lot of ways at that position. So I just worry

1499
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 5: about that being they're big move. I kind of like

1500
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 5: god went a little bit better, Yeah, because a little younger,

1501
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 5: and I just think he's got a little bit more

1502
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 5: left in the tank. I know he's coming off some injuries,

1503
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 5: but I feel like he's at least still twenty eight

1504
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 5: years old and has some juice left and I could

1505
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 5: see him being a productive player still.

1506
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take a little break here and

1507
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 4: we'll be back in a few minutes.

1508
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,680
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Speaker 22: It's time for another episode of Pats from the Past podcast.

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01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 22: Matt Smith here alongside with Pop Paolo and were pleased

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01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 22: to be joined by former Patriots quarterback Matt Castle. Matt,

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01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 22: thanks for joining.

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Speaker 7: Us, Absolutely glad to be here.

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Speaker 4: Why are you here, Matt. What would bring you back,

1534
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 4: what would.

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Speaker 13: Bring me back to the Foxborough is not just the people,

1536
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 13: the fans, but it's the tribute. Let's be honest, it's

1537
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 13: the tribute the retirement ceremony for Tom Brady. And you know,

1538
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 13: it was an incredible start to the ceremonies last night

1539
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 13: when we all got together, a bunch of teammates, old

1540
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 13: teammates and familiar faces coming back. So we had a

1541
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 13: blast last night. We're looking to continue it tonight.

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Speaker 22: You're a busy man with a big family of responsibilities

1543
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 22: and everything like that, so it's not the easiest thing

1544
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 22: to sort of I'm going to drop everything I'm doing.

1545
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 22: But was it and I'm sure so. I mean, I

1546
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 22: don't want he answered for you challenging, but was it

1547
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 22: an easy decision to make that I wanted to be here?

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01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 7: It was challenging, but it was definitely an easy decision

1549
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 7: to make.

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Speaker 13: I mean, Tom's a close friend of mine. He's played

1551
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 13: an important role in my development when I was young,

1552
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 13: and throughout the years we've stayed close. And just the

1553
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 13: fact that we get an opportunity to celebrate him tonight

1554
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 13: and send him send him out in the proper fashion.

1555
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 13: It'll be it'll be a fun, fun experience for everybody.

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Speaker 10: You talked about the event that you did on Tuesday night,

1557
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 10: any particular teammate that maybe you hadn't seen, and you're like, wow,

1558
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 10: it was great to catch out. I'm sure there were

1559
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 10: a lot of them, but on an individual that.

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01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 13: Stood out, you know, there's not one individual. The cool

1561
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 13: part about it is the thing that you missed Motest

1562
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 13: and we talked about this is when you.

1563
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 7: Leave the game, you miss that locker room.

1564
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 13: And you had Logan Mankins, Matt Light, Dan Cope and

1565
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 13: Lonnie Packs and Kevin Fox, Dion Branch, all these guys

1566
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 13: that you've had these incredible experiences with and we played together,

1567
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 13: we competed together. But to come back all and get

1568
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 13: into one room and be able to see those guys

1569
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 13: and pick up where we left off and tell funny

1570
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 13: stories and old jokes, that's what it's all about. And

1571
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 13: it's the camaraderie that you really don't experience in other

1572
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 13: walks of life, but you do in that locker room.

1573
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 7: And so it's pretty unique.

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01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 22: All right, let's start where it started in two thousand

1575
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 22: and five, and here's a guy who played one of

1576
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 22: the best programs in all college football. You didn't get

1577
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 22: a chance to play a lot.

1578
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 5: What were your.

1579
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Speaker 22: What realistically, Matt, did you think was going to happen

1580
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 22: as you entered the draft that year.

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01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 13: Honestly, I was just hoping to catch on as a

1582
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 13: free agent and prove myself, maybe even get in a practice,

1583
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 13: because my expectations were, Hey, if I can get in,

1584
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 13: hopefully I can get a chance to prove myself. And

1585
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 13: throughout the process, I had a good Pro Day and

1586
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 13: all that stuff, and I had some workouts for about

1587
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 13: five different teams, and I just thought, you know, there

1588
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 13: is potential here that I will be a free agent somewhere.

1589
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 13: And then all of a sudden, that last day of

1590
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 13: the draft, I get a phone call. I was sitting

1591
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 13: down at my agency's like, look, free agency is gonna

1592
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 13: happen quick. We got to be prepared. We're getting fucked.

1593
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 13: We started to field some phone calls from different teams,

1594
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 13: and next thing I know, Coach Belichick's on the line

1595
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 13: and saying, hey, Matt, welcome to the New England Patriots.

1596
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 13: We're going to take you next in the NFL Draft.

1597
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 13: And my jawge is dropped. I kind of even had

1598
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 13: to ask him, are you messing with me? Because I

1599
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 13: didn't think it was realistic, right, I mean, for a

1600
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 13: guy that threw I think it was thirty two total

1601
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 13: passes in college, I backed up to Heisman Trophy winners,

1602
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 13: which probably you know, kind of helped me along the

1603
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 13: way in terms of the perception of who I could

1604
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 13: potentially be. But there wasn't any tape out there, and

1605
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 13: so the fact that they took a shot on me

1606
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 13: and gave me an opportunity, I'd be forever, forever grateful.

1607
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 10: So when you got drafted, you know, I was We

1608
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 10: were still doing the newspaper back then, Matt, that's how

1609
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 10: long ago it was. But you know, I had your

1610
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 10: draft profile that year and I called Pete Carroll, who

1611
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 10: was the head coach here my first year working for

1612
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 10: Patriots dot Com, and I talked to Pete a little

1613
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 10: bit and he gushed about how agonizing the decision was

1614
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 10: between you and Mattleiner, and how you guys had sort

1615
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 10: of toggled back and forth, and you know, depending on

1616
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 10: the day that he woke up, he was convinced you

1617
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 10: with the guy right, and then it was him, and

1618
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 10: then it was you, and do you think that maybe

1619
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 10: Pete talked to a lot of NFL guys, maybe with

1620
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 10: his obviously extensive experience, and maybe that sort of helped

1621
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 10: give you a little bit of a push.

1622
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 13: I absolutely think he had an influence on just the

1623
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 13: ability to know so many different people from a personnel standpoint,

1624
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 13: and then at the same time, I remember on the

1625
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 13: pro day, before we started our pro day, he would

1626
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 13: go in and speak to all the scouts individually about

1627
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 13: each guy, and so I know that we always had

1628
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 13: a good relationship. And as agonizing as it was for him,

1629
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 13: it was more agonizing for me to sit there and

1630
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 13: have to wait and say, you know, I can't the

1631
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 13: week before season getting called into that office and getting

1632
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 13: devastating news that what you've been working for, you've been

1633
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 13: the backup for three years behind Carson. This was I

1634
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 13: felt like it was my time to go. And then

1635
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 13: to be told, look, we're gonna go with line Art

1636
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 13: to start, but if he falters it all and you know,

1637
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 13: he took off that first game with like a rocket

1638
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 13: ship and we go beat Auburn, and then I was like, man,

1639
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 13: what am I going to do?

1640
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 7: So I stuck playing.

1641
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 11: I went and.

1642
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 13: Switched over played a little tight end that year, played

1643
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 13: on special teams, did all these different things just because

1644
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 13: I wanted to play and be a part of it.

1645
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 13: But I was kind of stuck in that catch twenty.

1646
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 10: That's why Belichick drafted.

1647
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, He's like, maybe he'll be on special team.

1648
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 5: The more you can do, right, the more you can do.

1649
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,799
Speaker 22: Okay, So you're here ostensibly, you know, it helped celebrate

1650
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 22: Tom's career, and so one of the big things that

1651
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 22: has happened throughout the years, or rookie comes in, you're

1652
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 22: in the room with him. You know, what was your

1653
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 22: first impression when you met Tom?

1654
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 13: You know, I pretty much introduced myself in the weakest

1655
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 13: nerdiest form and fashion when he came up.

1656
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 7: I said, mister Brady, Matt Castle.

1657
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 13: Because you know, it's an intimidating environment, right, and this

1658
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 13: guy just came off three Super Bowls. You don't know

1659
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 13: how to Like normally you go up and say, hey,

1660
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 13: what's going on, man, Nice to meet you. I just

1661
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 13: completely geeked out with a mister Brady. He's like, hey, Bud,

1662
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 13: don't call me that, call me Tommy. I was like,

1663
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 13: he might have me cut tomorrow. Based on the fact

1664
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 13: that he doesn't want to be in the room with

1665
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 13: somebody like a But no, he was incredible from the jump.

1666
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 13: I mean we got in there, and then soon thereafter

1667
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 13: as we started getting to the work outs that offseason,

1668
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 13: he's noticed that, Look, I was one of those.

1669
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 4: Workout warriors too.

1670
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 7: I like to go in there.

1671
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 13: I like to work out, and he's like, hey, you

1672
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 13: want to work out with me. So he kind of

1673
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 13: took me under his wing at that point, and from

1674
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 13: that point on for the next four years, we worked

1675
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 13: out every day with each other.

1676
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 7: We're in every meeting.

1677
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 13: But for me, it was just incredible to watch the

1678
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 13: professionalism day in and day out, and his leadership. And

1679
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 13: it was not just with his words, but it was

1680
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 13: with his actions. It's how he took care of himself,

1681
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 13: it's how he interacted with his teammates, how he treated

1682
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 13: one guy because he thought he could get the most

1683
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 13: out of this guy like Welker, for instance, he could

1684
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 13: yell at him all day long and Welker would just

1685
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 13: continue to go, you know. And then there's other guys

1686
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 13: that maybe like a rainy Moss, that he'd sit there

1687
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 13: in the locker after practice and just have a general

1688
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 13: discussion about stuff. Because he how how he approached people

1689
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 13: was different based on their personality and the relationships. So

1690
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 13: it was just a masterclass in being a professional quarterback.

1691
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 13: And then to watch what he did week in and

1692
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 13: week out was just astounding.

1693
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 10: So you get to be part of that room with,

1694
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 10: you know, the best that's ever done it, and you

1695
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 10: also get to be coached by a guy who a

1696
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 10: lot of people think is the best who's ever done it.

1697
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 10: What do you remember about Bill specifically? But and I know,

1698
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 10: Matt and I tell talk about that story that I

1699
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 10: think you talked about in the Dynasty documentary about him

1700
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 10: calling your mom.

1701
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, right.

1702
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 13: About being a dumb ass because I missed the corner

1703
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 13: that was my rookie year. Yeah, it was the last

1704
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 13: preseason game. I didn't see the week corner blitz, which, hey,

1705
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 13: they were pretty sneaky about it, and the guy's as well.

1706
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 13: But he definitely called me out in the meeting the

1707
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 13: next day. He's like, you know, Matt, let's make sure

1708
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 13: we go through the front and check the corner blitz.

1709
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 13: I don't have to call your mom and tell our

1710
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,560
Speaker 13: dear missus Castle, we're sorry your son's in the hospital

1711
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 13: because he's a dumb ass, and.

1712
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 5: Foray, I was like, yep, I deserve that one.

1713
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 13: But Bill Bill was he was incredible because he pushed

1714
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 13: you to limits that you didn't know that you could go,

1715
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 13: and he got the best out of each of his players.

1716
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 13: But I always respected about Bill was he had you

1717
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 13: better prepared for any situation situationally speaking, also just game

1718
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 13: readiness than I've ever been around. And part of that

1719
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 13: was even on Tuesdays, taking the time out of his day.

1720
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 13: On a Tuesday or off day, we'd come in, we'd

1721
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 13: meet with him and you've probably heard the story. We

1722
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 13: sit down, go through every personnel and their defensive back end, safeties,

1723
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 13: corner strengths, weaknesses, summarize who they are, then even maybe

1724
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 13: a potential matchup on linebackers, talk about the defensive coordinator

1725
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 13: and also his lineage and where it came from. Then

1726
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 13: we'd watch film on all these guys. So by the

1727
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,799
Speaker 13: time you came in on Wednesday, you're rolling. You understand

1728
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 13: why we're implementing certain passkingsmes and concepts, who were trying

1729
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 13: to attack on specific routes, who are trying to take

1730
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 13: advantage of and so you just had this You had

1731
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 13: this confidence going into game week understanding why we're doing

1732
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 13: certain things.

1733
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 7: And there was never that wait, what are we doing?

1734
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 7: And if there was, it was answered, right and so.

1735
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 7: And the other thing I always.

1736
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Speaker 13: Appreciated about Bill was he he was always held everybody

1737
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 13: to the same standard of accountability. It wasn't like, ay,

1738
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 13: if you're this guy and you're a big name, you're

1739
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 13: you're off limits. And I've been around that that type

1740
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 13: of program before too. No, it was look, if you're

1741
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 13: Tom Brady or if you're a free agent, it doesn't matter.

1742
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 13: If you've messed up, I'm gonna call you out. We're

1743
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 13: going to correct it here. It might not be something

1744
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 13: that you know, everybody everybody's cup of tea like to

1745
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 13: sit there and get it in the meeting room, but

1746
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 13: at the same time, it's set us level of expectation

1747
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 13: and a standard for everyone.

1748
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Speaker 7: And now great moments.

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Speaker 5: And my point was like, Alex is just saying that

1750
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 5: you can't You couldn't imagine to in eight and either

1751
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 5: could have That's I couldn't have either because I thought

1752
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 5: that at the very worst, they would just be need

1753
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 5: to think.

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Speaker 10: I'm really I am negative and I don't know, I think,

1755
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 10: but I don't know I don't think.

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Speaker 5: Well, but but you said seven wins is their ceiling, right, Yeah,

1757
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 5: And I don't necessarily disagree with that. They're not going

1758
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 5: to get to seven wins.

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Speaker 23: But when they're ceiling, if everything fell in other words,

1760
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 23: if they stayed healthy, everything fell in place, but they close,

1761
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 23: the other teams got hurt, you didn't like, maybe you

1762
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 23: could win seven games.

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Speaker 4: That's how I felt about this team, I know, but.

1764
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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily disagree with that. If they're two and eight, Paul,

1765
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 5: like I thought, if they win the tour games, that's

1766
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 5: going to be a lot.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think the offense could get worse.

1768
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 5: I didn't think that I would. I would, but that's

1769
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,839
Speaker 5: why I didn't think the offense could be worse.

1770
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Speaker 17: Than it was.

1771
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Speaker 4: That's my question is just I think we all kind

1772
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Speaker 4: of agreed that, like six, I feel like we said

1773
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 4: a lot. Six six wins feels like the floor for

1774
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 4: this team. Like he's too good a coach to not

1775
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 4: get them six wins. Why aren't we just six wins

1776
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 4: this year?

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Speaker 23: You know, yeah, I would have said, it's like, see

1778
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Speaker 23: I'm playing.

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Speaker 10: I know you think I'm probably lying, but I'm not either,

1780
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 10: because I think there's some teams that they could be

1781
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 10: just like the last couple of games they played, they

1782
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 10: could have won.

1783
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 5: That would be a big mistake.

1784
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 7: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 4: You could probably use a pair of those. With the

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Speaker 4: way you go through well, you know, yeah, the commute.

1795
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Speaker 3: I recently did get some Bridgestone tires.

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Speaker 9: The sailing ever since I know there is like that

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Speaker 9: stretch of I had to replace my tires twice within

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Speaker 9: like one year.

1799
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Speaker 4: My lord, it's got too many miles. How many times

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01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 4: you fill up a week.

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01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 3: Depends on how many times I'm coming into the office.

1802
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 3: But it's every other day, oh, my lord.

1803
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 5: Every other day.

1804
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to go elect I know you excuse

1805
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 4: I have a Hyrid too.

1806
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 3: I loved it.

1807
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 9: I'll upgrade the RAB four eventually to another rev like

1808
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 9: the plug and Hybrid RAB.

1809
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 4: For but she's got to be eight hummer now, it's

1810
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 4: really tough one.

1811
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Speaker 3: It was like coming to work every day in.

1812
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Speaker 4: A suburban Well, let's stick with you because we have

1813
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 4: a question here from a longtime listener. First time email

1814
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,440
Speaker 4: er loved the show. This question is for Alex specifically,

1815
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm a pilot for a legacy airline and alex raving

1816
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 4: about Guatemala inspired me to bid for trips with time

1817
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 4: in Guatemala City next month. Do you have anything you

1818
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 4: would recommend specifically in Guatemala City for one afternoon evening.

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01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 4: Thanks for all you guys do four, one, three, Okay.

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01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 3: Try out the coffee shops.

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01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 9: I spent very minimal time in Guatemala City because it

1822
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 9: was kind of you're just landing there and then you're going.

1823
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 3: Up to Antigua or El Paradone.

1824
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 9: But Coffee District, off the top of my head, is

1825
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 9: an awesome, awesome cafe, delicious food, amazing coffee like I

1826
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 9: wish I brought more coffee beans back. But there's a

1827
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 9: great app called Source and it's it's how I find

1828
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 9: good coffee shops essentially. So download the app Source and

1829
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 9: just spend your time going to coffee shops in Guatemala City.

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01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 9: It's a great time, great food.

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01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 4: You're gonna go back for something.

1832
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm ready to buy a property down there.

1833
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 5: Yes, it's a parking lot.

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01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 4: It's probably affordable, imagine.

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01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, so there's a lot an il paradon right on

1836
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 9: the Pacific Ocean, thirty grand I could have a whole compound.

1837
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 9: Trust me, I've looked into this. I've looked at no

1838
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 9: pop up, a couple pop up, a couple of Airbnbs, and.

1839
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 4: It's a good plan. Real estate.

1840
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 5: The money is Yeah, that's the first step in my

1841
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 5: real estate empire in Guatemala.

1842
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 3: I don't know those perceptions of Central Guided.

1843
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 5: It's a Hollywood issue.

1844
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 3: It might be yeah, right, you're watching Narcos once and.

1845
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 4: You're just it's just blanket. It's all another email here,

1846
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 4: this one for Evan. For the most part, I trust Evan,

1847
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 4: but I think his take on Mason Graham at number

1848
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 4: four has some major flaws. We all agree that the

1849
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 4: biggest problem with the Patriots defense is the front seven

1850
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 4: getting pushed around and generating no pressure hole. Please. In

1851
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 4: Rabel's defense, there is no role for a Belichick style

1852
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 4: DT like Godshaw, and I don't know if I agree

1853
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 4: with that, and we cannot have another season with the

1854
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 4: Roy Farms a quality band aid. Mason Graham has the

1855
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 4: explosiveness to push the pocket, giving the edge and linebackers

1856
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 4: the ability to make more plays. Barmel already had trouble

1857
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 4: making it through full season before the terrible situation last year.

1858
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 4: We have no idea what his future looks like. Get

1859
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 4: elite Big Boys Loo from Philly. I mean, there's some

1860
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 4: good points there.

1861
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 7: I think, what do you think.

1862
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 5: I'm not anti Mason Graham. I just think that when

1863
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 5: you're drafting fourth overall, that is a franchise altering pick

1864
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 5: and I just want to make sure that you're getting

1865
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 5: a player that can make a franchise altering impact. And

1866
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 5: I just don't know if he's that guy. You know,

1867
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 5: I listened to Dame Brugler on Paul Shows this morning

1868
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 5: talking about his top one hundred, and he said, Mason

1869
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,839
Speaker 5: Graham's a good prospect. He's not like a Quinn Williams.

1870
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 5: Level prospect, but he's a good prospect, Like, I don't

1871
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 5: want just a good prospect that for overall, I want

1872
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 5: a great one. I like a lot about Mason Graham,

1873
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 5: but I just have reservations that I don't agree with

1874
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 5: everybody's assessment that he's a great run defender. I think

1875
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 5: he's a decent run defender. I don't think he's a

1876
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 5: great run defender. I think has issues against double teams.

1877
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 5: He's got shorter arms that's gonna, you know, lead to

1878
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 5: issues with pressing blocks and creating separation from blocks at

1879
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 5: this level. So if you want to have a guy

1880
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 5: that's just gonna shoot gaps and get up the field,

1881
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 5: and he's your guy, Like, if you want to do

1882
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 5: that all day long, then sure that he can definitely

1883
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 5: do that. But if you want, you know, some more

1884
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 5: versatility there, I just worry about that.

1885
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 12: Now.

1886
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 5: In this draft class, there are a lot of guys

1887
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 5: that have flaws, Like there's not a lot of perfect

1888
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 5: prospects in this class, and he's in that tier. Like

1889
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 5: I put him on the tier of I would take

1890
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 5: him at four. I just wouldn't be doing cartwheels if

1891
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 5: they took him at four. That's all that's all.

1892
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 4: Jeffrey from Canada. Well, Tuesday show had a chief super

1893
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 4: Bowl lost kind of feeling to it, as in not good. Ouch. However,

1894
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 4: this kid's show will be good. I want to call

1895
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 4: out Paul. I know he's away, but him reigning on

1896
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 4: our chief's loss parade was brutal. Well that's what he does.

1897
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you know exactly. That was the yeah, yeah,

1898
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 4: you knew he was coming. That's why I read that email.

1899
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 4: That was like, you know, just a pure Patriots flex.

1900
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 5: Like he will never ever be as good as Tom Brady.

1901
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 4: That blow out loss was very good for Patriots Nation

1902
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 4: and protecting of our dynasty. It made Tom Bill and

1903
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,839
Speaker 4: Gronk look even better. It also means the Goat conversation

1904
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: is on a two year pause minimum. Mahomes is not

1905
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 4: going to play until he's forty five. He just won't.

1906
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 4: I think his style of play has already been duplicated

1907
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 4: so much that he's regressing to the meme. Their defense

1908
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 4: is about to lose major pieces, and it's not as

1909
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 4: easy as all the talking heads make it sound to

1910
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 4: draft this and trade for that. That was Jeffrey from Canada,

1911
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 4: chiming in from.

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01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 7: The wall I agree with him. I just it brought

1913
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 7: me so much joy. And Duce, I told you this

1914
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 7: the other day and O seven, the biggest thing that

1915
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 7: has etched in my mind is Brady got sacked. I

1916
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 7: think it was by strayhand and he flexed and like

1917
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 7: at that point he kind of just feel like it's done.

1918
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 7: And it just brings me so much joy that there's

1919
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 7: a little kid in Kansas City who thought he was

1920
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 7: about to get a three peek Jalen Carter in the

1921
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 7: face and he's probably it's gonna haunt him for ten years.

1922
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 7: And that just brings so much joy.

1923
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 4: To me, like a true Drake fan, just it just

1924
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 4: it's perfec I don't know what that means.

1925
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 3: For little kid in Kansas City crying and I'm.

1926
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 7: Eric Cartman looking up. It was amazing.

1927
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 4: Oh what was the kid's name?

1928
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 7: Scott Tenneman.

1929
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 4: A great episode. You haven't seen that one center at

1930
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 4: South Park. You gotta cue it up. Hey everyone, my

1931
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 4: name is Richard from Charleston, South Carolina. I've been a

1932
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 4: long time listener. This is my first time sending an email.

1933
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 4: I have two questions for you, Thank you for emailing us. First,

1934
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 4: what's the best time to visit Jellette Stadium for a game.

1935
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 4: I've been to Gellette, but it was the off season

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Speaker 4: and the second one. I'm proposing to my longtime girlfriend

1937
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 4: in Italy in a few weeks. Any advice or tips

1938
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 4: you can share for the whole process. Ps, it's about

1939
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 4: a winner. Thanks Richard. That's a good emails stadium for me.

1940
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 4: September football weather, really September.

1941
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 9: You like the elements laing early October.

1942
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 5: You know, we get like the flex ticket thing, and

1943
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,839
Speaker 5: like Jess always picks the game like late September, early October,

1944
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 5: somewhere along those lines when it's still, you know, a

1945
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 5: warm ish like you're not going to go especially we

1946
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 5: got so lucky.

1947
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 9: I feel like every game September through October it was

1948
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 9: a beautiful, sunny, seventy five degree day.

1949
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 7: Almost passed out in the Seattle game. It was so

1950
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 7: hot too.

1951
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 4: I think there's a sweet spot October. It's a great time,

1952
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 4: great around here. Plenty of du go apple picking, go pumpkins,

1953
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 4: see the trees, pick picking, ride a trailer tractor tree.

1954
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, yeah, only one of us

1955
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 4: here is actually married and has proposed, so I don't.

1956
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 6: Know if.

1957
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 4: One for one, one for one proposal so far, we'll see,

1958
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 4: We'll see. I would say my advice is, you know,

1959
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 4: just be careful of the ring. One thing I didn't

1960
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 4: think about. I proposed on the end of a jetty

1961
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 4: on Cape Cod and I was like, as it was

1962
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 4: going on, I was like, this is a little dicey

1963
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 4: right now, because if this thing would I fall out

1964
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 4: of my hand, it's going down into the rock somewhere

1965
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 4: and it's not never going to be found. The other

1966
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 4: thing I would just say too, is like and every

1967
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 4: person is different with how they receive it, but like

1968
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 4: my wife, she she was kind of like awkwardly laughing

1969
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 4: the whole time, Like I was expecting you to be like,

1970
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm so excited to touch that. She

1971
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 4: was just kind of like and so I kind of

1972
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 4: wish that I had that I had like kind of

1973
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 4: teed it up a little bit better, like you know,

1974
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 4: like like so at least like she maybe had a

1975
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 4: hint that it was about to happen. But otherwise, now, congratulations,

1976
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 4: have a great time, Italy. I mean, if if you

1977
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 4: screw that up and I know that's on you, I.

1978
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 5: Would say that one of the best pieces of advice

1979
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 5: I got. I had proposed on Martha's vineyard to just

1980
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 5: as I'm sure everybody knows by now, we've talked about

1981
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 5: it enough. But I hired a if she wanted a

1982
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 5: photographer there to take pictures, and I hired someone that

1983
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 5: lives on the island and like knew the island really

1984
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 5: well and knew kind of the nooks and crannies and

1985
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 5: things like that, especially if you're going to a foreign country,

1986
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 5: like trying to find somebody local that can help you

1987
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 5: and point you in the right direction of like, you know,

1988
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 5: this is maybe a nice good proposal spot, or like

1989
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 5: this is things that you could do afterwards and with

1990
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 5: pictures and things like that. That was a good piece

1991
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 5: of advice that I got because the photographer that I hired,

1992
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 5: who was lived on the vineyard her whole life, like,

1993
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 5: definitely made suggestions that I never would have thought of,

1994
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 5: you know, because I'd not angles.

1995
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Golden Hour was just like a four thirty proposal.

1996
01:24:59,479 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 12: No.

1997
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 5: No, it was like right between dinner time and like sunset.

1998
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 20: No.

1999
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 5: We did it on Lighthouse Beach and Edgartown because Quinna

2000
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 5: was just too complicated because it's so far away from

2001
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 5: everything else. So plus the dog had to be there obviously,

2002
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 5: so there's a whole beach situation with that too. But

2003
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 5: that would be my one recommendation is to try to

2004
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 5: reach out to some people that get.

2005
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 4: An Italian photographer somewhere, yeah knows the angles lighting the spots.

2006
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 4: I like this email little Fred and Paul action here. Hey, guys,

2007
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 4: I just want to chime in and say how much

2008
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 4: I love the arguments between Fred and Paul. Why because

2009
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 4: it's the only time I get to listen to two

2010
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 4: people I like argue and root for both of them

2011
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 4: because they haven't realized that they're arguing the same point.

2012
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 4: Paul will give some well thought out points that Backfred,

2013
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 4: while Fred will point out what people are saying and

2014
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 4: it backs Paul. When asked who these who those people are,

2015
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,799
Speaker 4: Fred can't give a coherent, expond coherent response. In the meantime,

2016
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 4: Deuce will crack a joke in the that makes me

2017
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 4: laugh out loud, but that it goes totally unnoticed by

2018
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 4: Fred or Paul. Eventually the screaming max stops when they

2019
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 4: realize they actually agree with each other. I also want

2020
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 4: to say how impressed I I've been with Rabel I

2021
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 4: was expecting a meat head coach, somewhat in the Dan

2022
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 4: Campbell mole, but I've been pleasantly surprised with how cerebral

2023
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 4: he sounds. In every interview. He pauses before he answers

2024
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,839
Speaker 4: any questions and gives a deep, thoughtful and sincere response.

2025
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 4: It's so different from the meaningless coach speak. I've become

2026
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 4: accustomed to verbel sounds in real life, like what Eric

2027
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 4: sounded like in his head. And lastly, a little shot

2028
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 4: at Eric there. I mean, I'm on no email complete.

2029
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 4: Last I want to become a ballner like Evan, but

2030
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 4: it'd be possible for him to give a two or

2031
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 4: three minute segment in each show where he explained some

2032
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 4: ball knowing concept like what power run is or what

2033
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 4: pinpull is. It could be accompanied by a sweet jingle

2034
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 4: and Deuce can throw in some double entendres about Balnoy

2035
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 4: love the show, especially Aussie's and Andrew and Cornado, California.

2036
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 4: Thank you for that email. That's really great. And yeah,

2037
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 4: we do have some little little film stuff in the

2038
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 4: work for you with the draft and so, yeah, we

2039
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 4: did a little bit of that this year. We hope

2040
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 4: to continue to expand it we've.

2041
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 5: Discussed and maybe we can do an audience like you

2042
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,839
Speaker 5: know feel here. We've discussed doing like intro to football

2043
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 5: style videos in the past of me breaking down like

2044
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 5: some of the more simple concepts like things that you

2045
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 5: guys could like recognize on TV if I like explained

2046
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 5: it to you as best as I could. So we've

2047
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 5: discussed it, but I just think it's hard to find

2048
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 5: the time, the right time to shoot those, release those

2049
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. But I agree with his point

2050
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 5: about Rabel though. I definitely was even that first time

2051
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 5: we spoke to him on here when he came on

2052
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 5: the show, when on a day on his intro presser day,

2053
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 5: his like cerebralness is a perfect way to put it,

2054
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 5: took me by surprise, Like I thought we were going

2055
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 5: to get sort of like a raw raw meadhead Dan

2056
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 5: Campbell's style coach as well, and he's he's definitely not that,

2057
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 5: Like he's a he's a smart dude.

2058
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 4: Quick a shout out to Andre from Costa Rica. It's

2059
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 4: his birthday, Happy birthday. He thinks is podcast is the

2060
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 4: best of all. Of course, you're right. Let's hop back

2061
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 4: over here to the TPX Hotline, checking with Randy and Providence.

2062
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 24: He Randy, I wanted to ask you about a draft

2063
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 24: scenario and then like about three specific Day two prospects.

2064
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 24: I wonder what you guys think about. You know, there's

2065
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 24: two kind of blue chip prospects that everybody thinks with

2066
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 24: Carter and Hunter and then two quarterbacks that would make

2067
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 24: me think that there could be some value on the

2068
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 24: fourth pick, maybe trading back to like the ten eleven

2069
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 24: twelve range and being able to target you know, one

2070
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 24: of those tackles that you guys talked about earlier, Stimmons

2071
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 24: and Connerly and he had mentioned they'd be off the

2072
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 24: board by the second round pick. And I think there

2073
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 24: are three guys that are Day two prospects that could

2074
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 24: be contributors. Maybe Anthony Belton out of NC State, he

2075
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 24: looked real good at the Senior Bowl, Holland Pierce out

2076
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 24: of Wreckers three fifties started like forty something games with

2077
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 24: left tackle for them, and then a local kid, Ouzie

2078
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 24: Trapilla out of BC. So I want to know what

2079
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 24: you guys think about that draft scenario, that trade scenario.

2080
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 24: Maybe I think ten eleven twelve because like Chicago's got

2081
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 24: the extra second round pick, and then about those three

2082
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:18,919
Speaker 24: Day two prospects.

2083
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 4: Thanks ready.

2084
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not as we're deliar with the Rutgers kid yet,

2085
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 5: but you know it, Belton like wide body tackle, you know,

2086
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 5: built kind of more like a like an interior player,

2087
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 5: but has the length to stick a tackle in the league.

2088
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 5: I liked what I saw out of him. I mean,

2089
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 5: I think you you worry a little bit about foot

2090
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 5: speed and pass protection and things with guys that are

2091
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 5: built like that. With Trupeo, I know he's got a

2092
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 5: lot of love because BC guy Dante Scarneckia worked with

2093
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 5: him a little bit off to the side there and

2094
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 5: trained with him a little. I thought he played a

2095
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 5: little tall, you know, ne Ben in flexibility, I thought

2096
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 5: were a bit of concerns like some of those really

2097
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 5: bendy rushers I think he's gonna have problems with. But

2098
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 5: I think those two guys are sort of in that,

2099
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 5: like Caden Wallace Bucket of like our worst maybe swing tackles,

2100
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,520
Speaker 5: you know, guys that could be you know, top backups,

2101
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 5: the best, you know, starting caliber guys. But I wouldn't

2102
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 5: say like those guys are. Now we have left tackle

2103
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 5: figured out, like we drafted Anthony Belton in the third

2104
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 5: round and we're done. You know, I think that those

2105
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 5: guys are still more in that like Wallace type of category.

2106
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 4: I think my ideal scenario might be if Hunter and

2107
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 4: Carter are gone, trade down a little bit still draft,

2108
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 4: will Campbell pick up an extra top fifty to pick, yeah,

2109
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 4: and be able to hammer the defense and get maybe

2110
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 4: get one of these you know, third round receivers, somebody

2111
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 4: with some jews down there. To me right now, those

2112
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 4: two guys that that sounds the most appealing to me.

2113
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 7: But I think the.

2114
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 5: Issue is is that that sounds appealing to everybody right

2115
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 5: Like that scenario, I think is what a lot of

2116
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 5: teams are talking about in this draft because in most

2117
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 5: drafts like this draft would start at like the sixth

2118
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 5: or seventh overall pick because there would be like five

2119
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 5: guys in front of them that are pushing everybody else down.

2120
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 5: So everybody wants to trade down. So now like it's

2121
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 5: a situation of like can you get the value in

2122
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 5: a trade down and can you get a team to

2123
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 5: bite on a trade down? Because I don't know how

2124
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 5: many teams are going to be clamoring to go up.

2125
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 5: You know, there's gonna be a lot of teams clamoring

2126
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 5: to go down. So you look at last year when

2127
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 5: three quarterbacks fly off the board one, two, three. Now

2128
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the alts and the neighbors is

2129
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 5: and the dunesday is like those guys now go five

2130
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 5: to ten instead of going one through five. So that's

2131
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 5: the tough part about this draft.

2132
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 4: Set out to La, my old stomping grounds. Christian, Hey, Christian, Hey, you.

2133
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 18: Guys, how you doing today?

2134
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 4: Good?

2135
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 7: Good?

2136
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 4: How are you Okay?

2137
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm doing. It's raining out in La.

2138
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 14: Three weeks too late, but it's raining pretty.

2139
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 18: Hard to see, so thank you mother nature.

2140
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 7: But whatever.

2141
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 18: Now we got a bunch of mudch flies that we're

2142
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 18: we're worried about. But other than that, life is still

2143
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 18: good here at LA. Yes, of course I want to

2144
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 18: trumpet Travis Hunter and the fact that I think the

2145
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 18: main reason Kansas City lost Patrick Mahomes had no way

2146
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 18: to go with the ball, even with experience, uh wide

2147
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 18: out like Hopkins and Elsie. To me, the front four

2148
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 18: gets home because they have excellent coverage. So putting Hunter

2149
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 18: on the team, paving them with Gonzales equals excellent coverage.

2150
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 18: It might just help a front four with a free

2151
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Speaker 18: agent to get home.

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Speaker 11: That's one thing.

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Speaker 18: Second thing is, could you guys give me three picks

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01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 18: and two free agents that you feel with equate to

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01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 18: ten wins because I'm not really interested in a three

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01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 18: win bomp or a two two win bump whatever. I

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01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 18: want a quantum league like Washington did to go to

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Speaker 18: ten wins. I'll take it off air, guys.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Christian.

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Speaker 7: Where do you start?

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01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 4: How about let's just go like crazy. Let's say Ronnie Stanley,

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01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 4: Ronnie Stanley is your left tackle, You grab t Higgins

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01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 4: Higgins Boom, you know, and then and then you and

2164
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 4: then you supplement that with whoever you want really in

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Speaker 4: the draft, I feel like, but I mean, if you

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01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 4: take care of those positions and you know, maybe round

2167
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 4: out the deal. Let's let's say offense in free agency

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Speaker 4: with the left tackle spot, grab an elite wide receiver,

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01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 4: you know, just just one. And then you get to

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Speaker 4: the draft and you say, all right, we're going defense.

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01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 4: We're gonna really, you know, try to get some of

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01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 4: these front seven guys that are disruptive and that make

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01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 4: impacts and that fit this defense. And then who knows

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Speaker 4: maybe and then I mean I think it all really

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Speaker 4: no matter who you add, it comes down to Drake

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01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 4: May and Josh McDaniels really popping together.

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Speaker 7: It's a big thing with the Commanders is they got

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01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 7: the coaches they wanted and that we so far have

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Speaker 7: that on paper. So see how it goes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, to the to the point about the coverage

2181
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 5: in the pass rush, that is an age old nerd

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01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 5: debate that you can come in on, Christian because we've

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01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 5: debated which one's more important and which one funnels to

2184
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 5: which one for as long as I've been doing this,

2185
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Speaker 5: And I think what's really cool about some of the

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01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 5: things that Bill used to do is like he would

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01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 5: go against the grain with the trend. So like when

2188
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 5: everybody was buying pass rush, he bought Stefan Gilmour, right,

2189
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 5: and like when everybody started buying corners, then he would,

2190
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 5: you know, pivot to pass rushers and go sign Matthew Judon.

2191
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 5: So like Dave, these ebbs and flows and stuff like Dad,

2192
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 5: when it comes to pass rusher coverage debates is kind

2193
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 5: of a cool thing to track across the league, and

2194
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 5: the league is always copycats. So Team Mike Philly wins

2195
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, building it with the front seven out

2196
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 5: now everybody's gonna want to build it from the front

2197
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Speaker 5: seven out. So what would Bill do? He'd go sign

2198
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 5: all the corners right, So it depends on which which

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Speaker 5: way you want to look at it.

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Speaker 4: Ben and Liverpool. He's got a suggestion here for the newsletter, said,

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Speaker 4: loving the newsletter, but I have a suggestion for something

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01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 4: that could be added to it. In addition to Email

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01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 4: of the Week, I'd love it if you could also

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01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 4: did Idiot.

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Speaker 7: Of the Week.

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Speaker 4: This could come in the form of email, phone call,

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01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 4: or even something that one of you guys says on it.

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01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 4: I definitely think I would be on the Idiot of

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Speaker 4: the Week a couple of times. But that's you know,

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01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 4: some some think about I don't know if we need to.

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Speaker 3: Be I think it's funny.

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Speaker 9: I would be hesitant to have our listeners and our

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01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 9: callers be labeled by that.

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01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 3: I don't want to disrespect you guys.

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01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 5: You know, well it's too nice.

2216
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 4: But we do want to do We do want to

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01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 4: do the Guess the Call game this off season, where

2218
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 4: we're gonna get hopefully pictures of popular callers. People call

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01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 4: in a lot, you know, and we try to guess

2220
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 4: who's what you know, like we got Todd North Carolina.

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01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 4: We get to your second Tod, but you know, like

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01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,560
Speaker 4: what Todd for North Carolina look like, you know, we

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01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 4: know their voices. Yeah, but it'd be pretty fun. Christian

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01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 4: la another you know.

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Speaker 9: Maybe that's the avenue too, for like an evan'splaining segment.

2226
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 9: Like maybe you can't get a three minute show series

2227
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 9: off the ground right away, but just a little newsletter

2228
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 9: segment every other week.

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01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you pick a gloss. Maybe we could do like

2230
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 5: little little gloss or you like like a little like definition.

2231
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, or even if it's just me getting iPhone footage

2232
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 9: of you upstairs at the whiteboard, like breaking something down,

2233
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 9: putting it on YouTube.

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01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 4: Shorts so exciting would be really fun. Let's actually go

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01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 4: down to Todd in North Carolina. Hey, Todd, how's how's

2236
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 4: Bill doing down there? You keeping tabs on him?

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01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 6: Oh?

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01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 25: Bill is here and of people are excited for him

2239
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 25: now to play against Ohio and somebody who's going to

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Speaker 25: try to build a defense to stop Bill.

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Speaker 11: So it'd be interesting.

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01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 25: It's a great show about the octogenarians. I've appreciative of this,

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01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 25: you know, just to quote our new coach, what I'm

2244
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 25: looking for is, what do you think, what is your

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01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 25: ratio in your mind for hits two potential wins. I

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01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 25: know that our Los Angeles friend just kind of stole

2247
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 25: my thunder because that's exactly my question on how many

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01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 25: people are we going to have to hit on to make, say,

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Speaker 25: you know, be around five hundred. How many people are

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Speaker 25: we going to have to hit on to be you know, competitive,

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Speaker 25: maybe even make the playoffs. And that's kind of what

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01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 25: I'm wondering now because I'm hearing a lot of different

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01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 25: things from different sources, a book just how many needs

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01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 25: there are, and from you guys. Just doing a brief

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Speaker 25: analysis of what you said, I think there's about five

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Speaker 25: to six players that we need to hit on to

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Speaker 25: be made even to get to five hundred. So I

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01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 25: just want to hear what you guys think about that.

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Speaker 5: Thanks and great show, guys, Thanks Todd. It's tough to say, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know exactly how to answer that because it's

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Speaker 5: hard to say because it can happen quickly, Like there's

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Speaker 5: proof that it's happened quickly in other places. You know,

2263
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 5: the Chargers, the Commanders, they both just made the playoffs

2264
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,959
Speaker 5: after picking in the top five, just like the Patriots

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01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 5: the year before, so it can be done quickly. It's

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01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 5: just I think a lot of it is is like

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01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 5: coaching the talent that's currently on the roster. I think

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01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 5: that's a big part of it, is, like can they

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01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 5: get the defense back to level like can Mike Rabel

2270
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 5: get this defense back to where it was in twenty

2271
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 5: two and twenty three and closer to that defense just

2272
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 5: by organically, you know, from within, being a better coached unit,

2273
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Speaker 5: in a more fundamentally sound unit. I don't know, I

2274
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 5: don't know how many players it could take or wouldn't take.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's kind of hard.

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Speaker 4: To say, but I just say, I think, let's just

2277
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 4: say two. I feel like they need at least two

2278
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 4: guys to come in and run. But to me, again,

2279
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Speaker 4: the biggest thing is Drake, Like, you know, you don't

2280
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 4: need twelve awesome new additions. If Drake takes a huge

2281
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 4: step forward in his progress, and you know, Josh is

2282
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 4: in his bag and really you know, identifies what he

2283
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 4: wants to do with him, and they're able to execute it,

2284
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, Kendrick Bourne looks a little better.

2285
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 4: I think to your point, Evan, it's I think they

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01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 4: were better than their talent. Sorry, their talent is better

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01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 4: than what they put on the field last year, I think.

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01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 4: And that's, you know, of course, an indictment on what

2289
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 4: the coaching was last year. But still I think most

2290
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 4: position groups played below what you thought. And a lot

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01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 4: of the guys that you re signed, you've seen better

2292
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,799
Speaker 4: out of Michael Windy, You've seen better out of Ramandra Stevenson,

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01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 4: and those guys regress. So I think that colors a

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01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 4: lot of of what we're talking about here. And while

2295
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm actually while I mentioned Remandre, just bendon de Main,

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Speaker 4: thank you for your three emails today. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 4: to one of them. But I appreciate the questions, and

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01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 4: I think I have been reading them, and you know,

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Speaker 4: usually when we touch on stuff, I can't read every email,

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Speaker 4: but I think we've touched on some of their stuff.

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01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 4: But with Vermondre, he says, I don't hear many acknowledges,

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Speaker 4: but I think the Remondre extension was a mistake. Why

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01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 4: did the Patriots pay and extend such a mid running back.

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01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 4: Putting aside the fumbling this year. Over his career, his

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Speaker 4: best season was barely cracking a thousand yards in seventeen games,

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Speaker 4: no less, with just under seventy receptions. Well that's still

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Speaker 4: seventy receptions, pretty good. And this was an offense where

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01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 4: we had regression Mac Jones and the best wide receiver

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01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 4: was an undrafted college QB and Jacobe Myers, so he

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01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 4: was overly used out of necessity, not talent. I'm fairly

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Speaker 4: certain each of you could name at least a dozen

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01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 4: rbs you would take over Mandre. I was able to

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Speaker 4: name eighteen and felt like I was being generous. I

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Speaker 4: would just say to this, I'm really interested to see

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01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 4: what Mike Rabel does with Andre to get him back

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01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 4: on the program. And the fumbling is a huge issue,

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01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 4: and to me, that's something that Mike Rabel will not

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Speaker 4: be forgiving of. He will not be like, well, just

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Speaker 4: go ahead and get back out there like they kind

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Speaker 4: of wore last year with him. A huge story in camp,

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Speaker 4: and I would just I would say, I know a

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Speaker 4: lot of people praise this running back class a little bit. Yep,

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Speaker 4: that's another spot where do you put another guy in

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01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 4: the pipeline? I kind of like Antonio Gibson. I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, he could maybe fit what they do, but

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't roll that position out in the draft.

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Speaker 5: I didn't like the deal at the time, so I mean,

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01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 5: you're preaching to the choir. Now that's more of like

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01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 5: a running back thing for me than it was about

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Speaker 5: specifically with Romandre Stevenson. But I would I would be

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01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 5: weary of paying any running back a second contract, let

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01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 5: alone a guy like Remandre I think is good but

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01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 5: not great. So you know, we'll see. I couldn't agree

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01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 5: more with the draft though, But this is a loaded

2335
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 5: draft class at running back, one of the real strains

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01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 5: of the draft on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: So they're probably going to be twenty guys that are

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Speaker 5: drafted in this class that are going to be contributors

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01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 5: in some capacity at the next level. So even if

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01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 5: it's like third fourth round, I think you can still

2341
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 5: get somebody that at least can be involved in the

2342
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 5: committee of running backs. Maybe not like a lead back,

2343
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 5: but someone that can be involved in an offense. And

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01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 5: now it's just a matter of you know, what type

2345
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 5: of running back do you want it to be. Do

2346
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 5: you want it to be more of like a scap back,

2347
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 5: do you want to power back? Like which direction do

2348
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 5: you want to go? Because there's so many options that

2349
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 5: now it comes down to just picking your guy and

2350
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 5: picking the skill set.

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01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 7: You can also get a running back at any point

2352
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 7: in the draft. Just there's so many options. But I mean,

2353
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 7: you remandre the fumbling issues on the newer side, so

2354
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 7: he kind of hope he cleans that up.

2355
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 4: But I mean, do you put anything any stock in

2356
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 4: Derek Henry. I mean, I know Derek Henry believe was

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01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 4: there before verbel actually got there, but you put any

2358
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 4: stock in him? Looking maybe a little bit more at

2359
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,759
Speaker 4: like Braylen Allen last year, that kind of big bruising,

2360
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 4: you know, not shifty, but it seemed like Rabel kind

2361
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,560
Speaker 4: of wanted to have a big bruising back and a

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Speaker 4: little shifty back when they you know, went and got Lewis, Like, yeah,

2363
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 4: maybe maybe that's their thing. Maybe they do want to

2364
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 4: go back to that. I know Josh will have some

2365
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 4: saying that of course as well.

2366
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what they were trying to do

2367
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 5: with with Gibson, who I actually think it could be

2368
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 5: a pretty decent running back for Josh McDaniels. I still

2369
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 5: look at Gibson as a guy that can contribute in

2370
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,560
Speaker 5: the passing game and can get open online backers and

2371
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 5: do that sort of thing. The James White you know

2372
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 5: of it all. I think he can still be that

2373
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 5: kind of player. So I'm interested to see what they

2374
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 5: do with Antonio Gibson. But with Ramandre I mean he's

2375
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 5: on the team for at least another year, probably two

2376
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 5: with that contract, so they just got to figure out

2377
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 5: a way to make it work with him.

2378
01:41:57,840 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 14: Kind of.

2379
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 4: All right. Uh l from Wisconsin has just a music

2380
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 4: recommendation for Halftimes that that they think would would solve

2381
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 4: all the problems. Uh one man who can promote all

2382
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 4: genres of music and who has no baggage or hate

2383
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 4: against him, Weird al Yankovic. What do you think is

2384
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 4: your generation even aware.

2385
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 5: Of Weird Alankovic? But like, like loosely definitely came out

2386
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 5: last year that was definitely towards like the younger side

2387
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 5: of my life.

2388
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,759
Speaker 3: But ye, like first discovering YouTube, Yeah, who else can perform?

2389
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 7: I mean, who have they not had at this point?

2390
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 7: There's some like Taylor Swift that I feel like that's it, honestly,

2391
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 7: just take.

2392
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 5: Well unless they like went back and got you know,

2393
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 5: some of like the the you know bands.

2394
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 7: Like Chili Peppers and something Chili Peppers did it when Yeah,

2395
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 7: they I think they definitely did it.

2396
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like you know, I think the super Bowl next year?

2397
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 5: Is it Vegas next year? So that francis San Francisco.

2398
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 5: So I think a lot of people are saying I

2399
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 5: think Metallica might like be from San Francisco or something like. So,

2400
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 5: like those types of bands, you know, this is your side.

2401
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you're you're speaking my language right here.

2402
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 4: I enjoy it.

2403
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 5: Youah, I don't. I don't know the name of these

2404
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 5: bands you do.

2405
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 4: So I got the one with a I'm Fat you

2406
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 4: did the Fat one where you did Bad by Michael Jackson.

2407
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 4: I was, I was all in on that that album.

2408
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 4: I think I was like that this was probably this

2409
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 4: is not something you guys do. But back in the day,

2410
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 4: you'd have Columbia Tape House and they'd be like, send

2411
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 4: us ninety nine cents, we'll send you eight tapes and

2412
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 4: then over the next six months you have to buy

2413
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 4: five full price and something else. But like people used

2414
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 4: to use people used to scam it, like especially when

2415
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 4: I was when I was away at prep school, they

2416
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 4: would the would kids would like sign up for it,

2417
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 4: get then they put like a fake name on it

2418
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 4: and then they work in the mail room, so they

2419
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 4: grabbed the CDs and it was like the things we

2420
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 4: had to do before, you know, your napster and your

2421
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 4: lime wire, strawberries, all these things.

2422
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 7: Chili Peppers did the met Life one and remember they

2423
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 7: had to unplug it because it was so decent.

2424
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 3: Just right, It's like the pre recorded drama.

2425
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 5: Weird now was Gangster's Paradise?

2426
01:43:58,720 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 13: Right?

2427
01:43:59,000 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 16: Right?

2428
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what.

2429
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2430
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 4: Well, guys, football season maybe over, but you can still

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Speaker 4: official furniture store of the New England Patriots. And with that, guys,

2439
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Speaker 4: i'd like to first I'm going to tee this up

2440
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 4: here before I play a clip of our of the

2441
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 4: two thousand and four podcasts, so it'll be coming out

2442
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:37,759
Speaker 4: next week and ESPN just put out ranking was actually

2443
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 4: by Aaron Shots, who you know, created our DVOA, which

2444
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 4: I think we all appreciate that, and I actually spoke

2445
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 4: with Aaron for this podcast because they ranked out. I

2446
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 4: gotta know, I think it's like the top or whatever,

2447
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 4: top fifty nine super Bowl winners, and the Patriots kind

2448
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 4: of disrespected here, Like I mean, two thousand and one

2449
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 4: was fifty seven, twenty eighteen was fiftieth. This is the

2450
01:44:58,400 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 4: one I got the biggest problem with. Two thousand and

2451
01:44:59,880 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 4: three forty seventh. That was a really good football team.

2452
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 4: That was a really good football team. Twenty fourteen was

2453
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 4: forty two, twenty sixteen was thirty seven, But two thousand

2454
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 4: and four seventh. Overall, DVOA loves these Patriots. It was

2455
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 4: a great team. I think everybody kind of agrees that

2456
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,759
Speaker 4: this was, you know, the best Patriots team of the dynasty.

2457
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 4: I know we could talk about like if you get

2458
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 4: down to brass tacks and the seven team had to

2459
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 4: play the four team, how might it have gone. But

2460
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 4: I just wanted to share a quick clip here with

2461
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 4: you guys from the podcast that'll be coming out Monday.

2462
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 4: This is This is Matt Patricia. This was his first year.

2463
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 4: He came into the NFL as an offensive assistant, coaching

2464
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 4: with Dante Scarnekia. And here's what Matt Patricia had to

2465
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,560
Speaker 4: say just about that Patriots defense that I think was,

2466
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 4: you know, one of the greatest defenses of all time.

2467
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 4: The Patriots had built a veteran defense that was in

2468
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 4: its prime, coming off a two thousand and three season

2469
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 4: in which they ranked first in the NFL in points.

2470
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 4: This group had game changing talent on all three levels.

2471
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 4: The only question was how good this defense could be.

2472
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 4: Matt Patricia, offensive assistant.

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01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 12: Those guys were so competitive that it was a room

2474
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 12: full of alphas.

2475
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 5: I mean every single one of them.

2476
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 12: So, I mean I would walk in the linebacker room

2477
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 12: and honestly, I wasn't sure if if I was going

2478
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,719
Speaker 12: to be coaching football or fighting. Like I was like, okay,

2479
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 12: well maybe we might be fighting today. I have no

2480
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 12: idea what's gonna happen. I mean you would literally walk

2481
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 12: in and you know, Willie McGinnis would walk by Izzo

2482
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 12: and he'd like, you know, just like walk by and

2483
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 12: be like, yep, you're dry I got the edge on

2484
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 12: you today and they're talking about hydration, you know, And

2485
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 12: so now Larry's in the back of the room chugging

2486
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 12: waters and I'm like.

2487
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 7: What are you doing?

2488
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 12: And he's like, he's like, he's not gonna be more

2489
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 12: hydrated than I am.

2490
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 16: I'm like, are you kidding me right now?

2491
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 12: Like this is what we're you know, or you know,

2492
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 12: Brude walk in with a book, like you know, they

2493
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 12: didn't carry the playbooks because they knew the playbook. They

2494
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 12: He'd walk in with like a regular book and'd be like,

2495
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 12: what are you doing, Like I read two books last night,

2496
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 12: just trying to edge, you know. It was like, you

2497
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,480
Speaker 12: guys are insane, Like you're insane.

2498
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 4: But competitive worked hard.

2499
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 12: We brought everybody back for OTAs and we still had

2500
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 12: that first practice. I just remember the noise of the defense,

2501
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 12: the the communication, but it was just it was so loud,

2502
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 12: so clean, so clear, so just like locked in focus.

2503
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 12: It just sounded like a machine and you were like, wow,

2504
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 12: like these guys are unreal. And I remember, you know,

2505
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 12: with Braves too. The one thing that was amazing to

2506
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 12: me about Mike Rabel. You know, you're in college football

2507
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 12: world and every year it was like, hey, we got

2508
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 12: to get to training camp to get in shape. I

2509
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 12: just thought with these guys, like you could have called

2510
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 12: them any month, You could have called them in April

2511
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 12: and they would have been able to play a three

2512
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 12: hour football game at the highest level. They were always

2513
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 12: in shape. Mike Rabel was always he was never out

2514
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 12: of shape. It was just amazing to me the level

2515
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 12: of professionalism that these guys held each other to and

2516
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 12: they held themselves too.

2517
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there it is. That that's episode one. Three episodes,

2518
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 4: so the first one kind of covers the preseason training

2519
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,600
Speaker 4: camp leading up regular season, in the playoffs, and a

2520
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 4: little reflection. So hope you guys will check that out.

2521
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 4: Matty p was great as you probably hurt him now,

2522
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,639
Speaker 4: and of course now he's the new Ohio State defensive coordinator,

2523
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 4: so we'll see. I kind of felt like you needed

2524
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 4: a break though. He seemed like man. We joke about

2525
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 4: coaches working long hours and putting time in, and from

2526
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 4: talking to Matt Patricia, it sounds like he was like

2527
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 4: person a one who was here way too much and

2528
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 4: never left and never saw his family and just put

2529
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 4: everything he had into this job. So hopefully this year

2530
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,600
Speaker 4: offend him a little bit of good But hope you

2531
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 4: guys check that podcast out here as as we round

2532
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 4: down the final fifteen minutes or so here, just wanted

2533
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 4: to read this one email from Adam and Louisiana. He said,

2534
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,799
Speaker 4: what does success look like to y'all for the Patriots

2535
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 4: next season? What is the cutoff of wins that you

2536
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 4: would say that this season was a failure. I think

2537
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 4: anything under seven wins is a failure of a season.

2538
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 4: Not enough to fire Vrabel, but definitely a reason for concern.

2539
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 4: What do you guys think?

2540
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 7: I think seven's on the dot, maybe like eight on,

2541
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 7: Like there were so many games this year that you

2542
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,640
Speaker 7: feel like could have went the other way, So the

2543
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 7: team should be better next year with better coaching. I

2544
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 7: feel like, so anything on the sevens of disappointment to me,

2545
01:48:58,960 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 7: it's funny how like.

2546
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 4: They I mean, you got to see it, like I

2547
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 4: Paul's being on that, like you got to show me

2548
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 4: what it looks like because some of the you know,

2549
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 4: some of the games from last year, you hear players

2550
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 4: kind of being like, we lost six one score games. Well,

2551
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, technically, but Chiefs, we're really in it,

2552
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 4: Like we're really in it. I don't know, uh but

2553
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 4: I think you know, you're gonna know when you see it.

2554
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 4: I think that to me and that and that's just

2555
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 4: the vibe I get from, you know, talking of Rabel

2556
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 4: a little bit here, and you know, just like the

2557
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 4: like the like we were saying earlier. He just seems

2558
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 4: like he knows what he's doing. He's got a plan.

2559
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,520
Speaker 4: He learned from what he did in his first coaching experience.

2560
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,560
Speaker 4: He took a year to maybe even step back a

2561
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 4: little bit and really hone in on what am I

2562
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 4: going to do when this next opportunity comes. I mean

2563
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:43,680
Speaker 4: I saw a league poll. I'm not sure who put

2564
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 4: it out, but the Patriots hiring of Rabel was like,

2565
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 4: by far the most you know, liked move of the

2566
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 4: offseason in terms of head coaching. Uh So, I like,

2567
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 4: I love the move, but you guys know, it's the NFL.

2568
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 7: You never know.

2569
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna

2570
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 4: work out and this team is going to be the

2571
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 4: team that I think it should be in the in

2572
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,759
Speaker 4: the model of Mike Rabel and the style of a smart,

2573
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 4: tough football player that that he was. But that being said,

2574
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 4: I think six seven wins is about where you feel

2575
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 4: like this team would be back and let's start making.

2576
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 7: It's tough because you don't want to turn into like,

2577
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 7: you know, the toxic Pats fan. Look at the other teams,

2578
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 7: but then like you look at the schedule, play the

2579
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 7: Jets twice. Oh, I know it.

2580
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 9: Said we have to take advantage of basketball.

2581
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 4: So I guess that's the coach.

2582
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 7: You don't know who their quarterback is going to be,

2583
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 7: so like the you can get there. That's why I

2584
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 7: think anything under seven is pretty disappointing.

2585
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I always have a tough time putting them like

2586
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 5: because it's not and we have such a long way

2587
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 5: to go in terms of the roster building aspect of it.

2588
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 5: Like after the draft, I feel like we'll have a

2589
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 5: better idea.

2590
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 3: Of we readdressed this.

2591
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 9: I think after free agency and after the draft, maybe

2592
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 9: right before preseason you can dress more of those intangibles

2593
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 9: in the month.

2594
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 5: If they have Josh Swenton to Higgins on this team,

2595
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 5: and I'm obviously going to feel a lot better than

2596
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 5: I do, right, Yeah, go higher than I'm gonna have

2597
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 5: a pretty high standard I feel like for this team

2598
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 5: because I have seen it done in other places. Would

2599
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,520
Speaker 5: not necessarily go all the way to the NFC Championship

2600
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,600
Speaker 5: game like the Commanders did. But you see quick turnarounds

2601
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 5: in the league happen more often than not, especially when

2602
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 5: you have the quarterback. So I feel like this team

2603
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 5: should be in it towards the end of the season.

2604
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,799
Speaker 5: Like I don't think that they should have irrelevant games

2605
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 5: post Thanksgiving like we've had the last couple of years.

2606
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 5: I shouldn't be watching draft film for the twenty twenty

2607
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 5: sixth draft on Thanksgiving right, Like we should be able

2608
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 5: to wait for that until January this time around. Like that,

2609
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 5: I feel like they should have relevant competitive football games

2610
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:41,600
Speaker 5: down the stretch this coming up season and be in

2611
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,719
Speaker 5: the mix. Now, will they make the playoffs? It's probably lofty,

2612
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 5: but like they should be vying for the seventh you know,

2613
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 5: see the final wild card spot, like you're nine to

2614
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 5: eight eight nine, like somewhere in that category.

2615
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,640
Speaker 4: Oh got me excited there in them? Yeah, seconds in

2616
01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 4: the mix of the playoffs. Should be to back the

2617
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 4: TPX hotline. Stephen is in Pasadena. Another call from la Hey, Stephen,

2618
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 4: what's going on?

2619
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, big fan. I wanted to touch a little

2620
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 14: bit on the emailer about Watemala. I lived there for

2621
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 14: eleven years and actually graduated high school there. But anyway, recommendations.

2622
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 14: It's like thirty minutes away from the Watemalan airport.

2623
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 11: It's called tay La.

2624
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 14: It's uh, it's very nice. It's like a promenade and

2625
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 14: there's even a hotel there and but they have like

2626
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 14: Starbucks and other coffee shops, bars, the whole thing.

2627
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 11: So that should be a good time. And for Alex

2628
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 11: next time you go.

2629
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 14: There's this place called Lake Atitlan.

2630
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm familiar being.

2631
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 14: It's one of the most beautiful lad Ye bucket lists

2632
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 14: and it's it's being it's surrounded by three volcanos, so uh,

2633
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 14: you read in Airbnb there it's pretty It's gonna be

2634
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 14: a pretty good time.

2635
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 7: So that's it.

2636
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 14: One thing about the Patriots I did want to touch

2637
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,560
Speaker 14: on is I just read that, uh Trev Unter is

2638
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 14: going to work out at the Combine as a defensive back.

2639
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 14: So does that change the strategy? Would you still take

2640
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 14: them and convince them or you know what would you

2641
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 14: do if you were the past that guy?

2642
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 5: Take care? Thanks thanks Steven. Yeah, that came out this

2643
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 5: morning that he was listening with the defensive backs. It's

2644
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 5: an interesting little wrinkle.

2645
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 23: You know.

2646
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 5: Usually they do try to uh, you know, there's like

2647
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 5: a committee that decides who gets invited to the combine,

2648
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 5: and usually the committee will give advice to draft prospects like,

2649
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 5: you know, maybe go back, you know you're not ready

2650
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 5: and you're you're not going to get drafted where you

2651
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 5: want to go, or you know you are ready as

2652
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 5: an underclassman to to enter, you know, and doesn't usually

2653
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 5: come down of which position the guy's gonna play. Usually

2654
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 5: that's pretty cut and dry. But they're obviously saying that

2655
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 5: the NFL zeitgeist is calling him a corner and and

2656
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 5: so I don't I do think that changes a little

2657
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 5: bit of how I would view him as a patriot prospect.

2658
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 5: I still think he's a good enough corner to draft

2659
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 5: him in the top four. But you know, we get

2660
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 5: into the whole positional value and you know, needs and

2661
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff, and it's not a need,

2662
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 5: it's not a glaring need like some of the other things.

2663
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 5: So I do think you have to consider it.

2664
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:16,759
Speaker 4: Claire checking in from West Midland's UK. Hello everyone Holiday,

2665
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 4: Hey girl. She just wanted to say, just throw a

2666
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 4: quick note and say nice job by doing the kids.

2667
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 4: Thank you, Claire. I love you all at p u OS,

2668
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 4: buts the grown up star away. You young uns are

2669
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 4: doing good and I know it's not till tomorrow, but

2670
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:31,719
Speaker 4: happy Valentine's Day. You love the lot. So they celebrate

2671
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day and England to so world wide holiday. You guys,

2672
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 4: got any plans?

2673
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 7: Got slacking a little?

2674
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 3: So this is your first Valentine's Day?

2675
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, it's you're slacking on your first Valane.

2676
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 7: Well last year I asked her on a date completely

2677
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 7: forgetting what It was really funny and then all the

2678
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 7: girls like what's wrong with you? Like what do you mean?

2679
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 3: And like a Valentine's Day We're like, now you've got

2680
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 3: a dater.

2681
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah here I am. Here, I am a year later.

2682
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 5: Because you at least get the flowers taking care of course.

2683
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 4: Okay, at least you're not going to the reservation.

2684
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 7: I'm cooking. I'm cooking.

2685
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 4: Okay, at least you're not going to break up with her.

2686
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 4: There was some talk another relationship ceremoniously tomorrow, Alex, you

2687
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 4: got anything? Oh, you're doing a spot go.

2688
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 3: To Canyon Ranch get away spa weekend.

2689
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 4: Evan, this is your now was this your last Valentine's

2690
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 4: Day before your official.

2691
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 5: Yes, that is true. So like at once you get married,

2692
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 5: what can I take it off? Like no, no, this

2693
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 5: is what's too close to the hollidays, just like, well,

2694
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 5: Jess's birthday is well, yeah, I was going to give

2695
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 5: it a shout out. I doubt she's listening, but if

2696
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 5: she is, happy birthday, birthday, my much better half. And uh,

2697
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 5: it's our birthday birthday today and then Valentine's Day tomorrow.

2698
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 5: So it's a tough back to back weekends. Our household

2699
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 5: so so.

2700
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 4: Late and I were We're coming up on our eighteenth

2701
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 4: wedding anniversary. So our thing is we just like she'll

2702
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 4: look at me, like, so are we doing anything for

2703
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 4: each other for Valentine's Day? Because I got to put

2704
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 4: an Amazon order and if not, but you know you got,

2705
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 4: you got to keep the magical eye happened, you know

2706
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 4: you got.

2707
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 5: So you go to dinner with your kids, go to

2708
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 5: dinner with our kids.

2709
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 4: Well, as I said, they were made by our love,

2710
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 4: so I figured we should all all go together. And uh,

2711
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 4: you know, no, Valentine's up in the office. So today, no,

2712
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 4: we're not we're not doing secret trading.

2713
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,919
Speaker 3: Maybe there is amazing some cards and you guys is cards.

2714
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 7: And candy candy something going means candy bull.

2715
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, real quick.

2716
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 9: I thought of something during that clip The Killers, Oh yeah,

2717
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 9: haven't done a super Bowl?

2718
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 4: Okay?

2719
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 3: Opened with mister Bright's Side.

2720
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 5: Pretty good?

2721
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe close with when when we were young? What's that?

2722
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 7: I love somebody?

2723
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 3: All those things I've done.

2724
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got they got a good kill a few.

2725
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's pretty good. I mean

2726
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:49,839
Speaker 4: that's you know rock genre.

2727
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 5: Right You're talking about like like bands that have anthems

2728
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 5: and stuff that can really like at the stadium juices.

2729
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 9: I feel like Mister bright Side is bigger than ever

2730
01:56:58,120 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 9: now than it even was when it came out.

2731
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 4: Is it hot on the TikTok? All of this sudden again?

2732
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 3: The weddings, weddings, sports, games.

2733
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 5: Sports is big, you know, yeah right now? Like the

2734
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 5: bit right Side single, And it's not the best song

2735
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 5: to me, it's a good one because like you either

2736
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 5: have to go to the anthem rock band route that

2737
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 5: like plays stadiums and like knows that sort of thing,

2738
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 5: or I feel like you have to go with like

2739
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 5: a performer because dancer.

2740
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 7: And r Carrey would kill it.

2741
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 3: Does she still have the pipes like that?

2742
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 7: I'd be jamming out to Maria carry way the work.

2743
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 4: I gotta kill her some underrated Uh. They did a

2744
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 4: recent album, Pressure Machine is in a song that they

2745
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 4: did that. I really liked this a little Bit's totally

2746
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 4: not the killers that you're talking about on Super Bowl Killers,

2747
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 4: But actually I did when I worked Boston Calling. They

2748
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 4: performed there and kind of high maintenance, kind of high maintenance.

2749
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 4: They needed, you know, very things, people to be shot

2750
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 4: certain ways and so, you know, but they're familiar with

2751
01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 4: the festival crowds. So yeah, I like it. I like it.

2752
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 9: We'll connect with the young kids and all these things

2753
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 9: I've done. Is just like one of my favorite songs

2754
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 9: in general.

2755
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's a good one.

2756
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 5: Good.

2757
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 7: Nobody went to that Boston Calling for the Killer, so

2758
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 7: they went for M and m oh.

2759
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 5: Right, well yeah, how dairy see that?

2760
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 4: Eminem closed it out and obviously, but as a member

2761
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 4: of the crew, like I was working on my face,

2762
01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 4: I was so close. Oh really, oh you were there.

2763
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 3: Again.

2764
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 5: He saved it in a ziploc bag.

2765
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 3: He has it in a vial somewhere.

2766
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 4: It's It's funny you say that, Matt, because so as

2767
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 4: I was part of the video crew. That was the

2768
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 4: last show and we had to start breaking things down.

2769
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 4: And I've never been a marine, I've never been to

2770
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 4: Paras Island, I've never done Navy seal training. But if

2771
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 4: there was a night of my life that I had,

2772
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 4: like the hardest night of my life, it was that

2773
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 4: night because we had to break down everything that night.

2774
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 4: It was raining, if I don't know if I recall,

2775
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 4: it was raining. We're pulling cable under stages and in mud,

2776
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 4: and I just reached the point where I was like delirious,

2777
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 4: like just rolling cable. I'm like, I don't know where

2778
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 4: I am. It was like, you know, four or five

2779
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 4: in the morning, we've been like trying to break everything down.

2780
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 4: One of the hardest nights of my life. But yeah,

2781
01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 4: that's that's my I just remember flying in the golf

2782
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 4: carts and clean up and here in eminem go and

2783
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 4: be like that'd be kind of cool to listen to

2784
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 4: this right now, And I'm like, here, Edward, did you

2785
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 4: hear drug Maddie? No, I saw you the day afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2786
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 4: Well I think that's gonna do it for us here

2787
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 4: on Patriots on Filter. I want to thank everybody for

2788
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 4: tuning in. Don't worry, Paul and Fred. We'll be back

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