1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Oh hello everyone. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: It is the fifteenth of November twenty twenty one. I 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: am Luke Thomas. This is Morning Combat Extra Credit. This 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: is where I pick out a few fights that we 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to get into on Regular MK, which, 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: by the way, if you're listening now, Regular MK with 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: me and Brian Campbell is already up on YouTube, already 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: up on the podcast wherever you get your podcasts platform, Spotify, 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, whatever you want, so it's already up. But 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: here we are to talk about five extra fights today. 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna get into those just a second. 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: Be here. 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: If you're watching on YouTube, you can see the social 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: graphic below. Give us a follow anywhere on Twitter or 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 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We're gonna go into song Ga Dong 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: versus Whool you Rse, Joel Alvarez taking on Thiago moys 25 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: sas Sean Woodson fighting Colin Anglin and then dot un 26 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: Jun taking on forgive me for the pronunciation here, Kennedy 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: and zech In zuze in zeu u q. I'm sure 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: I am fucking that up as bad as one possibly can. 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: And then we'll get to the belt or fight in 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: just a minute will be the Litton to Salvers tyrole 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: Fortune fight. So those are the fights we're gonna get 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: to here today without further ado. Let's start if we 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: can on morning or excuse me, on an extra credit 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: episode eight with the fight I mentioned first here in 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: that lineup, Song You Dong taking on Julio Arse, songa 36 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: Dong wins at one thirty five of the second round 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: be a head kick and then a punch, so he 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: he lands a head kick and then fires off a 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: right hand. It was a right head kick, falls off 40 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: a right hand behind it, and at that point Arse 41 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: is in deep trouble. He falls them off and then 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: and then polishes him off. And a few things standing 43 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: about Song You Dong in this one. First of all, 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: this is very pati performance. The first round. I think 45 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: he won it, but it wasn't like some drubbing beatdown 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: or something. He he was It looked to me like 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: he was taking his time and fact finding, seeing what 48 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: Rse was giving him. But what the thing was kind 49 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: of interesting was he was doing a really good job 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: of kind of just taking away whatever Julio RSE was 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: trying to do, particularly the leg kicks. You'll notice he 52 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: was bouncing out of the way a lot, and then 53 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: as the fight wore on, he stopped doing that bouncing 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: out as much because what was happening was he would 55 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: bounce out to get out of the way, and it 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: would that would work, right, Like moving your feet is 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: not in any way necessarily wrong. It just depends on 58 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: what the goal is and what you're trying to do 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: and whether or not that particular movement is that is 60 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: helpful for that particular strategy and what you're looking for. 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: So it's good in the sense that it had got 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: him out of the way of what was coming, but 63 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: then he would kind of have to renegotiate the distance again. 64 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: And so the first round was kind of about, what's 65 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: this guy throwing to me, how do I get out 66 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: of the way, Let me get out of the way. 67 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: Let me read this and see, you know what works 68 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: and what and what doesn't. And then what you saw 69 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: him do was really kind of put a little bit 70 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: more pressure on him the second round. A lot of 71 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: taking away of the jab of Arsay. That was a 72 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: big part of this too, whether he was slipping it 73 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: and just sort of not letting it land, but also 74 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: parrying it, covering it, you know, getting out of the 75 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: way of it, just not letting it ever really begin 76 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: to be a commanding presence in the fight. 77 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: Whatsoever. A couple of them snuck through. Obviously who the 78 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: arse is a talented fighter. 79 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: But the thing that stands out in addition to me, 80 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: beyond just the patience, is what we kind of already 81 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: knew about Songa Dong, which is that obviously he is 82 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: a very gifted athlete, and he hits like a ton 83 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: of bricks. He's got fast handspeed, explosive athleticism. I mean, 84 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: think about something here, Like I mentioned, for example, song 85 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: Adong was trying to. 86 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Take away the jab of Arsay. 87 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: Understand that if you look at that final sequence what 88 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: happened there, It looks like Arsey and song A Doong 89 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: are throwing there at the exact same time, a jab 90 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: for Arsay and a headkick for you Dong. I can't 91 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: quite exactly tell if it's one of two scenarios, is 92 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: it that he read it and immediately fired up the 93 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: leg kick, or that they had separated, because what happened 94 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: was there was this a bit of a blitz from 95 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: you dong, and then he pushes him back, and then 96 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: you watch Arsay began to reclose that distance. Did he 97 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: push and then expect that return where he got just 98 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: enough into close space where he could fire the leg 99 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: kick right up there without hardly any telegraph and then landed. 100 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: Hard to tell exactly because the timing is weird, but 101 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: in any case, it was a challenge to the jab. 102 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: It certainly was not. He was not the head was 103 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: not there to be hit fair. Actually, I don't think 104 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: it was quite off. I think he was raised because 105 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: he was on his tiptoe, so it ended up being 106 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: like right around here, and then the head kick landed. 107 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: The only point I am trying. 108 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: To make in all of that is the setup was nice, 109 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: although it's you know, somewhat serendipitous. But the point is, like, 110 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: dude his like maybe the jab from ARSI got there 111 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: or first, but the jab from Rsay and then the 112 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: head kick from like your dog were almost as equally quick. 113 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: I mean that dude can lightning get his feet to 114 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: someone's face. It is very, very impressive. And then there 115 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: was a couple of times he would you see him 116 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: shift as he was pressing stand switching as the term 117 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: in front of user, but it's called shifting as he 118 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: would press arsay backwards and then as he would press 119 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: him backwards. 120 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: You see these heavy, heavy. 121 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: Hooks that landed a couple of times as he switched 122 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: through the motions, but there was a lot of times 123 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: where it didn't. But the big story there was just 124 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: him taking his time to find out the distance once 125 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: he got it. 126 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the reality. Like your dong. 127 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: Landed strikes in the first round, but it wasn't like 128 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: the first thing that landed clean, like super clean, and 129 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: even then it wasn't all that clean because the hand 130 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: was kind of up. But the first thing that were like, 131 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: you know, really struck him with authority was that head kick, 132 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: and then the fight was basically over like that dude 133 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: must have of sick power. And you add that this 134 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: was a very difficult opponent. I thought he had I 135 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: think very highly of Julio Orsa, and then he just 136 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: took his time in the first round, and then like, 137 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: here's what you want from someone this athletic, this is 138 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: what you want, You want them to do what he's doing, 139 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: which is that you can't forget about like having all 140 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: of that power and having all of that athleticism. It's 141 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: just such an obvious benefit. But let's find a scientific 142 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: way to use it. Let's find a clever way to 143 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: use it. Let's find a way where when you use 144 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: it properly, you don't have to do much of it. 145 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: You go, let me pull up his striking numbers if 146 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: I can from that first round. Yeah, I mean, he 147 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: only landed seventeen of fifty two, but he held rsay 148 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: to just five arsay, very very just couldn't get much, 149 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: going very very defensively minded, kind of covering up, and 150 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: he was doing a lot, which is interesting because like 151 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: you have two opponents who are kind of trying to 152 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: read the other one, and even I would say a 153 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: semi reserved Yodong still landed a lot. And his other fights, 154 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: Let's see what did he land in the Kyler Phillips fight. 155 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: In the first round, he landed twenty one right, which 156 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: is a. 157 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Little bit more. 158 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: What about Marlon Vera, he landed seventeen in that one, 159 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: although he got outstruck in that round, and it wasn't 160 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: until the second and third round we had forty four 161 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: and forty Jesus Christ. So let's go back to the 162 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: casey Kenny win. How many do you have there? He 163 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: had thirty one in the first round Jesus Christ, and 164 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: then he had thirty four and fifty one in the 165 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: second and third subsequently against Kyler. How much did he 166 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: have here all the way around twenty twenty one and 167 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: twenty six, which is pretty good in the third round 168 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: when he really put a bit of a pace on 169 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 2: them there, Let's look at the because the Cody Statement 170 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: fight was a lot of wrestling. What about Alejandro Perez? Oh, 171 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: I mean that was you know, eight punches, but that 172 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: fight didn't last very long. Yeah, So I would say 173 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: this is in line with what you see from him, 174 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: but maybe a little bit on the reserved side. There's 175 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: definitely been some round where he had much more activity. 176 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: But it's a lot of a lot of blitzing, a 177 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: lot of just heavy hooking, a lot of less patient, 178 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: less scientific approaches to the game. 179 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: This to me. 180 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: Seemed both equally thoughtful and powerful, and if he can 181 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: keep building on that. 182 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: He's going to have a lot of success. Uh okay. 183 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: So that takes us now down to the fight that 184 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: I thought was the most interesting fight certainly in I 185 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: want to say, of the weekend, because there was the 186 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: main event, but on that preliminary card Joel Alvarez defeating 187 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: Thiago Moises via tko elbows at three to zero one 188 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: of the first round. Now, big caveat and you could 189 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: see it play out in person. I don't know how 190 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: long Joel Alvarez is built for this weight class. He 191 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: missed weight one fifty seven and a half is what 192 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: he made, So he missed it by a pound and 193 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: a half. Even with the one pound allowance, he is 194 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: nowhere close to championship weight. He looks to be huge 195 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: for lightweight. You know, Moissas and Makachev were more or 196 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: less the same size. You know, it wasn't a huge difference. 197 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: It was a huge difference here. So I don't know 198 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: how he would do it. 199 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Welter. 200 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm not saying he would do poorly, but I 201 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: do wonder when a guy is looking for this much 202 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: of an advantage, what that might say. Still, you gotta 203 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: make weight. We'll see what way class he belongs in. Okay, 204 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: But for the time being, if we just talk about 205 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: this fight, this was brilliant, quite frankly, I mean, he 206 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: had moists on the end of his punches and strikes 207 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: the entire time. Again, let's look at some of these 208 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: numbers here as I pulled them up. But the big 209 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: read that I made was folks were asking about the 210 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 2: elbow versus the dot un Jung elbow, which I guess 211 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna skip to here in just a second to 212 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: make the conversation a little more of a flowing thing. 213 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: In the case of Alvarez, the answer is that they 214 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: basically did more or less the same thing. Now, they 215 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: had different kinds of elbows that they threw, and the 216 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: setups weren't exactly the same, nor were the situations identical. 217 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 2: But the basic idea in both the dot Un Jung 218 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: fight and then the Joel Alvarez fight is that they 219 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: got their opponents to cover themselves up so that they 220 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: couldn't see. And they did that with a lot of 221 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: different things that they were trying to do. But partly 222 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: it's getting a reaction from the opponent. So when you 223 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: see an opponent constantly cover this way. You know this 224 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: is again this is not necessarily wrong. In fact, that 225 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: could save you the and win you the whole fight 226 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: depending on when you employ this. But if you go 227 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: to this a lot versus slipping, versus circling out versus 228 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: whatever any other kind of the operational defense, you can 229 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: employ a lot of This means a lot of times 230 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: you can't use your hands because they're literally covering your face. 231 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: So someone just jabs and jabs and jabs and then 232 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: gets you to hold it. Then the hands come up 233 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: and it opens up the body or any kind of 234 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: hooking punch, although sometimes people can you know, work with 235 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: that a little bit, but you know it's very powerful 236 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: and that if it deflects a punch or a kick, 237 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, the hands are kind of covering this and 238 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: you're still there. 239 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: You don't have to move your feet. 240 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: But the problem is you can just build around a 241 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: lot of different scenarios. So what you saw Joel Alvarez 242 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: do was a lot of straight punch and straight punches. 243 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: Then you throw a hooking punch. But the big key 244 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: he did that skip knee to help him close the 245 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: distance almost like tie boxing style, and from there he 246 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: could grab the hands and then elbow over it or 247 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: elbow around him or whatever he wanted to do. So 248 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: he's changing up the range at which he's playing with 249 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: some of these strikes. So you might think that there's 250 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: a straight punch coming, or excuse me, you might think 251 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: that he's not going to throw something like that because 252 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: he's super up on close with you and you only 253 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: felt the hooking punches when he was really away. 254 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: So he's playing with the ranges. 255 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: And then also what the shot selection is if they 256 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: think that you're in close, Oh, he's not going to 257 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: throw elbows or I'm not too worried about I'm not 258 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: expecting them to land here per se. Whatever miscalculation you're 259 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: making about the shot selection in that particular case, and 260 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: for those reasons, then it works out perfectly. 261 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: Right. 262 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: So you're playing with shot selection, you're playing with range, 263 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: you're playing with it at the same time. And then 264 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: you having an opponent who has a bit of a 265 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: one dimensional defense like your defense, like your offense needs 266 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: to have dimensions to it. You know, you can't do 267 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: all things right. Doesn't defend the same way as wonder 268 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: Boy Thompson, and both of their styles are not perfect, 269 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: and both of their styles have plenty of weaknesses, but 270 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: they also have a lot of different dimensions. They can 271 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: slip punches, and they can step around and reset angles, 272 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: and they can do all kind they can turn defense 273 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: into offense. There's lots they can do with how they 274 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: have employed defensive responsibility into their game. And a lot 275 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: of the guys you see now in MMA who just 276 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: hold their hands over their head. Again, it's not wrong. 277 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be like, look knows better. I'm not 278 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: saying I know better. It's not about that, but it 279 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: is true. I have seen it way too many times 280 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: if you are one note with that offense where you're 281 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: consistently blinding yourself, covering up like that. Guys who can 282 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: get into that flow state, right, the guys who can 283 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: be high volume and then bop hoop pop and then 284 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: they're chopping to the body and bop bop pop pop pop, 285 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: and then they're coming with an upper cut and then 286 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: they back off. And you know, the guys who can 287 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: let the volume go and they just kind of feel 288 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: out the situation and have this inherent ability to let 289 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: the right shots flow at the right time without a 290 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: whole lot of you know, direct thinking about it. They're 291 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: gonna tear like people like that up. Man, they're gonna 292 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: tear him up. And especially when a guy like Tago Moiss, 293 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: who was tall, so his knees can come up highs 294 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: so you're kind of bending down, so then when he throws, 295 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: he can slash. By the way, I can't really throw 296 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: elbows hardly at all anymore because I've had shoulder surgery 297 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: and that they're all bad people like you have to 298 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: have kind of like real good shoulder dexterity to throw, 299 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: which I don't. 300 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: But you know, a. 301 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: Guy like a tall, nimble, rangy guy like Joel Alvarez, 302 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: it's the perfect kind of striking style for him, and 303 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: against Boiss, he just had all the wrong defense for 304 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: that particular kind of challenge, and you saw Alvarez just 305 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: absolutely shine. 306 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: So the linear. 307 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: Attacks up the middle, you know, getting getting Moises to 308 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: bend over and then bringing all different kind of stuff 309 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: behind it, linear attacks with the jabs, bringing all kinds 310 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: of stuff behind it, skip knees to close in range, 311 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: and then he could attack to the body, push off, 312 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: he could do an elbow off the clinch break. There's 313 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: just so much he could do from there because he 314 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: was playing with all How can you throw all those 315 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: weapons only if you can play with all those ranges right? 316 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Like? 317 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: What good is a skip knee all the way away? 318 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: What good is a head kick if you're right in front? 319 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: It's everything he could do from all the different spaces, 320 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: and he could go to it instantly without having to 321 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: think too much. I'm gonna skip the Sean Woson fight 322 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: for just a second just to talk about the elbows 323 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: and keep it consistent. But this might have been my 324 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: favorite fight on rewatch. I'll say Dotton John taking on again. 325 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna mispronounce his last name, so I'm just gonna 326 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: say Kennedy good fighter on Lighthavway Division and z Uq 327 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: out of safe soge Jim four to seven A not 328 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: a great performance by him. I don't think he would 329 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: probably disagree with that too much. Couldn't blend the referee 330 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: for this one. J Young had a really interesting moment there, 331 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: and I thought it was interesting because you did hear 332 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: Michael Bisping note that there was almost no footwork in 333 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: the fight, which is quite correct. There was almost none. 334 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: Didn't hear a lot of commentary though about what he 335 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: was doing with his hands, so you had open stance 336 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: on this one. So you had one South Paul I 337 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: believe that was Kennedy was standing South Paul, and you 338 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: had dot Wun Jung standing in Orthodox. 339 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: And what's so interesting was. 340 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: Dottin Jung kept using his left hand to control the 341 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: lead hand. So two lead hands, the lead hand of Jung, 342 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: lead hand of Kennedy. And he what was he doing 343 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: with that? Everything? So one he's managing the distance like. 344 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Two? 345 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: You can actually pin it to someone's body if you 346 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: wanted to throw something else behind it, and you could 347 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: pin it here. If it's up tie, you can pin 348 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: it to their head. You can actually take their hand. 349 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: You could pin it to them and then you can 350 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: throw around it. We've talked about this with Volkanovsky. 351 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: You can do that. And also when you hold it, 352 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: not only do I know where I am, I. 353 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: Know where you are. I know where I can pin 354 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: it to you. I can pull you in certain directions. 355 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: I can pull your hand down so I can create 356 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: openings with the hand. And if this hand is occupied, 357 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: yes my hand is occupied. But if I can bait 358 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: you to throw, which is what dot onin Jung was 359 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: doing a little bit. He was sort of acting a 360 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: bit of a He was going at lead at times, 361 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: but a lot of times he was counteracting. 362 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: He just knows what's coming. 363 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: And Plus, if you got a guy who you know 364 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: is not a kicker and not much of a takedown threat, 365 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: you can kind of just play with that space. 366 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: He used that strategy perfectly. Glove control. 367 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: Where he's controlling the glove, he's controlling the lead wrist, 368 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: sometimes the elbow right a little bit depending on where 369 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: he was grabbing. And you have to think of it 370 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: this way, like in grapplings, what does almost everything start with? 371 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: Starts with your grips in a geese sleeve and a 372 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: collar right in no gi It could be a cor 373 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: or wrestling, it could be a collar tie, but everything 374 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: starts with a grip. You gotta this is not exactly correct. 375 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to explain the conception of what's happening here. 376 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: But imagine what would happen if Jung grabbed the wrist 377 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: right of Kennedy and then didn't let go. Now, there 378 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: are times when Kennedy fought out of it. I want 379 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: to make a point here, though, he would like you 380 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: rip his hand away, but then he would kind of 381 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: go back to what he's doing, and so Jung would 382 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: just go back to, you know, touching, touching, touching. But 383 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: imagine he had kept it there, Kennedy would probably just 384 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: pull it away. 385 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Right. 386 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: You wouldn't let someone do it. You would never let 387 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: them establish a grip on you. Right if you have 388 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: you know, you know you're not going to let another 389 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: prize fighter just grab your wrist and then it's just 390 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: going to go unattended in the fight. 391 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose. 392 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: Everyone knows that you would never let them peel the 393 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: grip off and go back to what you're doing. I 394 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: have to tell you, though, if you're up against a 395 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: fighter who when you peel your hand off and you 396 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: go back to what you're doing and the offense is 397 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: more or less fifty to fifty and they keep touching, 398 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: you're playing their game. You're not playing your game. You 399 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: got to remember, dude, whenever you do anything, whether you 400 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: want to pass guard or go for a submission, or 401 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: throw a particular strike to the extent possible, and many 402 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: times it will not be possible. To the extent possible, 403 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: you want to do it on your terms, not there 404 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: or not even equal terms. You don't want it to 405 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 2: be fifty fifty. Fifty to fifty is a fucking coin 406 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: flip fuck that you want to be able to put 407 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: it on your terms. Azrael A Designia puts it on 408 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: his terms. When Demian Maya grapples, he grapples you on 409 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: his terms, not yours. So the whole point of touching 410 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: like that is it's not the functional equivalent of a 411 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: grip that that's not what I mean, but it has 412 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: the same kind of effect where you're letting him. It's 413 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: a grip almost intermittent. I can touch it for a second. 414 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: I can touch it for a second. I can touch 415 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: it for a second, and it has in many ways 416 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: not the functional equivalents, but there are similar rewards that 417 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: can be reaped. I can hold it and pin it 418 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: to you for just the second that I need it. 419 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: I can gauge the this, I can do all these 420 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: things that a normal grip would also allow me to 421 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: do if left unattended. It's almost like he's establishing a 422 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: grip without having to keep it on locked the entire time. 423 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: And so when you think of it that way, where yeah, 424 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: I would never let you do that, and then I 425 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: would never go back to you just letting you regrip. 426 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: You have to keep stripping the grip. But you just. 427 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: Can't keep going back to that scenario because now you're 428 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: just constantly fighting out of a deficit. You let someone 429 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: keep doing this long enough, you're gonna be fighting out 430 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: of a deficit. So I was surprised that he let 431 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: it go that long, and that, you know, it wasn't 432 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: just three minutes into a fight, but still too long 433 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: to let a guy just unattended grabbing your wrist like that. 434 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: And so the elbow was interesting. You had from Elvarez. 435 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: You had a bit of a slashing elbow coming again. 436 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: I can't quite rotate my wrist, you know, well enough 437 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: to get the proper elbow and shoulder angle. I don't 438 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: have any of the nimble dexterity. But you had a 439 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: slashing kind of side elbow around this from Joel Alvarez. 440 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: By the way, Spanish speakers, Mom went to help me 441 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: with this one. I asked my wife this too. I'm like, okay, 442 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: so the guy's from Spain and his name is Joel 443 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: and it's spelled with a J, So why isn't it 444 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: ho l Because Joel Romero would be pronounced by my 445 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: wife and some other people in Latin America by with 446 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: a ja. Why would be a j sound, so it 447 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: would be Joel to them, right, why is it Joel 448 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: and not ho? Well, I don't know the answer. She 449 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: didn't know the answer either. Actually it was kind of funny, 450 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: all right. But speaking about the elbow, so his dotton 451 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: jungs was different rather than being a sort of a 452 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: slide slashing elbow. Now, the second elbow that junk through 453 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: was a side kind of slashing elbow, or at least 454 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: like almost like a whipping cracking elbow this way right 455 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: kind of a thing. But the first one was it 456 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: actually cocked back like a punch, and Kennedy, I don't 457 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: think realized what it was now. His hand was up, 458 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: but it must have come around just around the front 459 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: if you go back, and I did it just to 460 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: be sure. If you watch in slow motion, the hand 461 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: and the arm chambers like he's getting ready to throw 462 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: a punch. What I think he was doing was he 463 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: was constantly not just controlling where Kennedy was and controlling 464 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: his lead hand and then again, you know, learning to 465 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: live with what's coming on that end, because by the 466 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: way he lets go of that at times about halfway 467 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: through the fight, say halfway through the round of the 468 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: two thirty mark, he gets a little more free flowing, 469 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: but then kind of comes back to it whenever he 470 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: needs to. He kind of just used it to establish 471 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: distance and like, Okay, where do I need to be 472 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: to be out of the way and whatnot. But the 473 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is the elbow was chambered 474 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: this way and then kind of came forward like this, 475 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: and I guess it's almost like the tip or inside 476 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: there's a bone here that can come around the side. 477 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: And then it hit him in the head. 478 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: And then you saw Kennedy take a step back but 479 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 2: then kind of come back. It seemed like he was okay, 480 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: but here's how you knew he wasn't. Then he gets 481 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: his hands right back up, the elbow hits it again, 482 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: and then he's visibly wobbled from a elbow strike. In 483 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: the case of the second elbow strike that was completely blocked. 484 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're blocking an elbow one hundred percent 485 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 2: and it still rocks you, it probably means that a 486 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: both elbows were hard, but that the first one really 487 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: kind of got it whipped around the glove, and so 488 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 2: what I think he was doing there was when he 489 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: was controlling and then pot shotting with his memory. He's 490 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: controlling with his hand like dot un John Wright grab 491 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: and grab him, going around, coming around with this get grabbing. 492 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: He was trying to see where the guy's hands go 493 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: when he tests for whatever he was looking for, and 494 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: he probably got the guy's hands to go from here 495 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: out or let's say I'm left handed, so somewhere around 496 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: like this. What I think he was looking for was 497 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: for this hand to come forward a little bit so 498 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: there could open this lane. That's what I think he 499 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: was looking for. If you're listening on the audio podcast, 500 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say is I think he was 501 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: looking to more closely center Kennedy's hands from rather than 502 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: being outside of his face, a little bit closer to 503 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: the inside of his face so that he could whip 504 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: a could chamber a punch that Kennedy probably thought was 505 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: coming straight at him right, probably thought it was a jab. 506 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: That's why the punch was chambered the way that it was. 507 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: So Kennedy thinks it's coming right for him. He puts 508 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: his hands right in front of his face more or less, 509 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: and then it actually slides by on the outside as 510 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: the trajectory of the strike changes as it changes shape 511 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: from a chambered punch to a kind of like a 512 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: like a you know, like a almost like almost like 513 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: a slapping elbow. It's not quite the right word, but 514 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: an interesting, an interesting way certainly to go about things. 515 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: Great win by him, I was extremely impressive. So two 516 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: nice wins there. But yeah, man, the big lesson for 517 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: me I was watching them, like, dude, you're just gonna 518 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: let this guy keep touching you like this. You gotta 519 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: you gotta change it up. You gotta switch stances. You gotta, 520 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: you know, fake a level change. You gotta get him 521 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: off of constantly touching the outside of your arm. Man, 522 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: that when they do that, every one of those is 523 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: like you know, uh sonar and they're gonna find out 524 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: kind of exactly where you are. They're gonna control your 525 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: lead hand the whole time. It's just not a great 526 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: place to be. You gotta move, you gotta get all 527 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: our you know, yeah, you like start using you know, 528 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: fainting and then angle change and then circular, you know, 529 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: a lateral motion as you go around and you're circling 530 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: and you're getting out of the way, but just standing 531 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: in front and letting a guy grab you like that, 532 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: it's gonna it's it's gonna be bad for you. Sean 533 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: Woodson taking on Colin Anglin. He wins tk obout it 534 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 2: to the punches at four thirty of round one. This 535 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: is an extremely impressive performance from Sean Woodson, who I 536 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: know everyone said, you know, I don't want to bring 537 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: it up because there's no point too, but it is 538 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: relevant here. He does have a strange body type. He's 539 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: got a giant melon. I'm in the giant melon club myself. 540 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: I am a man who understands these challenges. I like 541 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: Sean Woodson, cannot buy a snapback hat and wear it 542 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: because my head is so huge. Nevertheless, he's got long limbs. 543 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: That's really the reason why I bring it up in 544 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: a very short torso he's got long limbs. He used 545 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: them quite effectively here. But the story of the fight 546 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: is not just how good he was at maintaining range. 547 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 2: Although that was good, Colin England had a very hard 548 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: time closing that distance at all. He also had a 549 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: really hard time reading what was coming, and that to me, 550 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: is the story of this fight. Not only did Sean 551 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 2: Woodson do a great job at keeping England at the 552 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: end range his range, which was very far for Kylin. 553 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you could tell he had a hard time 554 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: figuring out just how far back you need to be. 555 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: And then even then you know, a safe distance was 556 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: really far away, like the guy woulds in his limbs. 557 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: They just keep traveling. It's like shocking how far they 558 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 2: go for that featherweight weight class. But the other part was, 559 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: and this was the most impressive part to me, dude, 560 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: his shot selection was excellent. What do I mean by 561 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: shot selection? You have to throw the right strike for 562 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: the right time, you know, for the right need, and 563 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: that there can be a lot of different ones you throw. 564 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: And listen, maybe you're supposed to throw a shot to 565 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: the body because your coach called for it, you threw 566 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: up a left hook instead and knocked him out. Listen, 567 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: If the punch lands and it wins, that's what matters most. 568 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: But if you're trying to apply these things in a 569 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: little bit more of a thoughtful way, certain strikes are 570 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: going to work better at certain moments against certain kinds 571 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: of opponents and challenges. And he just seemed to be 572 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: able to find that just a nice mix of things 573 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: of straight linear punches with hooking punches and that kind 574 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: of a thing. Also using his teeth really really well 575 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: as a way to score, cause posture change and whatnot. 576 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: But he was also just flowing out there. So you know, 577 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: when he was at n range, he was using N 578 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: range kind of strikes. And then as it got closer, 579 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: he was just really good about another opponent occupying his hands, 580 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: bringing him up and then what did you see him 581 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: roast him with the body shots. I mean, I'm telling 582 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: you I want to go back to this. Like again, 583 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: this is not me saying this is bad defense. That's 584 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: not the argument that I'm making. The argument that I'm 585 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: making is that an over reliance on hands up defense 586 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: in modern mma against anyone who's got decent striking, you're 587 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: gonna get fucking eaten alive. Doing that, You're gonna get 588 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: eaten alive. You have to switch something up. You can 589 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: do it somewhat. Again, some of it might not just 590 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: be like okay, some of it might be perfect in 591 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: the right moment. Good dude, Again, in boxing, you saw 592 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: Canelo Alvarez not quite hands up this high but kind 593 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: of leaning and shelling and covering again in the right moment, 594 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: for the right context and the right amounts. 595 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: It's exactly what you need. 596 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: I question of right or wrong, it's a question on 597 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: how much you rely on certain forms of defense to 598 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: protect you against high level opponents. Dude, a high level 599 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: guy like Shawn Woodson, you come up to him with 600 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: this over and over again, He's going to eat you alive. 601 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 2: Those body shots were fantastic, and my man was in 602 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: a flow state the whole time. He looked like Neo 603 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: and the fucking Matrix. He didn't even have to think 604 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: about what he was throwing. He's thrown those strikes in 605 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: practice and in sparring so many times, so many times. 606 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: Excuse me, They just effortlessly begin to just produce themselves. 607 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Bop pop pop, pop up, pup up. 608 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: Up, really really really impressive shot selection from Shawn Woodson. 609 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: I really liked. 610 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: What he was choosing to go with, or at least 611 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: you know what he chose to go with in practice 612 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: and then turn into muscle memory. 613 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: How about that? 614 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: But even then he could recognize as the range has 615 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: changed and what his opponent was showing him changed, so 616 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: did the particular kinds of strikes that he needed to 617 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: and again he didn't really go to the body shots. 618 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: As you notice. 619 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: There was somebody who worked certainly with the legs at 620 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: long range. But the best body work was almost when 621 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: he was right on top of England to a degree 622 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: when he didn't have to like reach forward her at all. 623 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: He could just drive down with almost maximum authority to 624 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: a wide open opponent because his hands are up, you know, 625 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: covering up whatever else he was doing, and he tore 626 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: him up for it. That's great work from Sean Woodson, 627 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: who I know how. 628 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: To set back? 629 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: Who did he have a setback against? Who was it against? Yeah, 630 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 2: a Rosa, but that was back in twenty twenty. Since then, 631 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: he bet use of is a law, which is a 632 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: tough fight because use of his the law is very good. 633 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: And then Colin Angland, he wins here tremendous performance. Let 634 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: me look at some of his numbers if I can 635 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: here very quickly, and then we'll call it a day. 636 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: With one more fight in this one, Sean Woodson, let's 637 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: see he here we go against Colin Englan. Man they 638 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: gave him in three minutes. He landed fifty strikes and 639 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: threw one hundred and seven. 640 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 641 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: Impressive, and listen to these numbers. This is what he taughtargeted, 642 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: so this is what he targeted. He targeted forty six 643 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: percent of the head, thirty four percent of the body, 644 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: twenty percent of the legs. That's a nice, very good 645 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: distribution of targeting most of them at distance, of course, 646 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: but that's great, you know, you see what I mean, 647 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: just mixing it all up, all the different ways he 648 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: can do it. 649 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Really nice stuff. Man. He landed. 650 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: He landed more significant strikes than England even attempted. England 651 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: attempted forty total strikes. Woodson landed fifty significant strikes. 652 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: Yikes. Uh. 653 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: And then last, but certainly not least, Let's go to 654 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: the final fight here that we have for me co 655 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: main event for Bellatore. Not the most interesting fight, but 656 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: it is worth paying attention because here's a guy who 657 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: switched weight classes. Then now I'm doing the bcment. Linton 658 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: was cell ran to Ryan Bader, he got stopped, and 659 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: then Phil Davis he got stopped. This was in twenty 660 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: seventeen and twenty eighteen at light heavyweight. He's a huge 661 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: light heavyweight. So then he moves up to heavyweight in 662 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. But his first fight was against Valentine Moldovski, 663 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: who is the interim champ as it stands, right, So 664 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: that's right. I believe Valentine Mldovski's the interim champ if 665 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. Yes, he won the interim Belatoor Heavyweight champion. Okay, 666 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: so you can't beat that guy. So he fighted Sergei 667 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: heraton Off and wins. He fights Honey Marks and wins. 668 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: But that's also not the same as beating. Like, you know, 669 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: serge Heratono was a legend, but he's old and Honey 670 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: Marx is. 671 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, he's had some highs. 672 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: But he's been he's been, you know, outside of h 673 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: he's been in major promotions, but he's been losing for 674 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: a while. 675 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, let me look at his record. Yeah, I 676 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: mean he's won. 677 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: He hasn't won two in a row since twenty seventeen, 678 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: so he's been inconsistent. And he hasn't beaten anyone with 679 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: a Wikipedia entry since twenty seventeen. So yeah, so you know, 680 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: we're not talking about the very best that the division 681 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: has to offer here, even if I take him, you 682 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: know seriously as a threat, so then you have this fight, 683 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, Fortune is a natural heavyweight, not 684 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: as big, but much better wrestler fast. You know, Linton 685 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: Vasell is athletic, but you know, heavyweight is clearly not 686 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: his natural weight class, so he's a little bit slower. 687 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: And I thought, Tyrol Fortune is gonna have the speed edge. 688 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 2: His striking has come a long way and his wrestling 689 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: has come a long way. And that just didn't really 690 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: play out the way I thought it would won. Lint 691 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: to Vessel had much more strength than I thought he 692 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: was going to and I knew he was, like he's 693 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: bricked up. It's not like that surprising, but at heavyweight, 694 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know how that was going to go, and 695 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: it didn't. 696 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: Go well for Tyrrell. 697 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: Fortune is the first thing I would say, but the 698 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: real key to this fight was Fortune at times was 699 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: able to do well as it related to pure wrestling exchanges, 700 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: or as much as you can have pure wrestling exchanges 701 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: in MMA, but when it came time to Matt wrestle 702 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: or even Matt grapple, he completely lost his way. He 703 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: would try to stuff a takedown and then not depart 704 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: from the position, like not trying to like really move 705 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: away from it, and then Vassal would just use that 706 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: to score some reversal or get on top or you know, 707 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: move to side control and turn him over, or even 708 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: then get a half like a hook in and then 709 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: opposite side risk control, and then you know, he left 710 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: hands are just going unobstructive as they're against the fence 711 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: like some kind of modern control position. And that's basically 712 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: how a couple of the rounds went where. 713 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: They didn't. 714 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: They weren't obvious wins. These these these these wrestling exchanges, 715 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: they weren't necessary. Sometimes they were sometimes you could get 716 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: them down. But there was a couple of times where 717 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: Fortune was not a fighting out of a deficit. 718 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Then he would put one hand down and then. 719 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: Here goes LENDSI Vassell to his back, and now the 720 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: whole round is basically at least the next few minutes 721 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: are gonn to be spent taking an l It was weird. 722 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: It was weird because some of my initial impressions I 723 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: thought were right about how the speed and athleticism would 724 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: would pair up, but I guess I was surprised at 725 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: some of the defensive grappling of Tyrrell Fortune he's very talented, 726 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: very athletic, he's got great trainers and the Lalier brothers. 727 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: But that was a big That was a big gap 728 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: in skill is that one particular area. And it to me, 729 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: if it wasn't for that, maybe Fasel could have won 730 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: if he had gotten more. Obviously, if you couldn't have 731 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: any of the success on the ground of the way 732 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: that he did, he would have gone to another path 733 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: to get it. He could not have won this fight striking. 734 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: I will maintain that. Andy Again, maybe the British gentleman 735 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: could have got it a lint of a cel with 736 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: with wrestling, but. 737 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that was that was. I was very 738 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: surprised by that. I was very surprised by that. And 739 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: that's it. 740 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: I know some folks want to talk very quickly about 741 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: the Alicia A. Bumgardner and Terry Harper fight for honorable mention. 742 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 2: Uh maybe you could mention Keas Williams versus Miguel Byza, 743 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: but we kind of went over both of those on 744 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: have you seen this shit for morning combats? So I 745 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: won't repeat it here, but uh, this is what I 746 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: Let me just say one last thing about this. This 747 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: is what I mean when I when I watch MMA, 748 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 2: here's a card with not a whole lot of names 749 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: in the UFC case Botim War two, not a whole 750 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: lot of big names on there. And I don't know 751 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: that this video is going to do all that well 752 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: because there was no real big names on it. And 753 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: yet what you're actually paying attention to and what you 754 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: are invested in is the fight itself. Just between Joel 755 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: Alvarez and Dot Wun Jung, you had these elbow attacks 756 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: that were absolutely spectacular. You're throw in what Sean Woodson 757 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 2: was up to, and then the read these quick amazing 758 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 2: you know, reflexive decision making from a guy like songa Doong, 759 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: and then you would go down the list pit. There's 760 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: other fights we could have gone to we didn't even 761 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: get to. It's like, dude, every week if you're watching 762 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: high level fighting, and that's a big if you're going 763 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: to get high level action on some level, even the 764 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: regional scene will produce these crazy knockouts because there's often 765 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: a talent disparity that produces them. That's a little more 766 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: extreme than what you get at the highest level. But 767 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: this is what I mean. You've got to fall in love, 768 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: not with the storylines or your favorite camps or what 769 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 2: your favorite witty fighter says. What you have to fall 770 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: in love with is the act of fighting itself, the 771 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: science behind it. Yes, the beauty too. You can the 772 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: art and you can enjoy that as well, that's all 773 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: part of it. But once you once the fighting is 774 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: what matters to you and not the other things, and 775 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: you realize how much better fighting is getting over time, 776 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: you know. You can complain about this card. And I'm 777 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: not telling you it's the best card I've ever seen. 778 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: It wasn't, although it was pretty good. But you don't 779 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: need big names to have really important, interesting, fun, thoughtful 780 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: mixed martial arts. You really don't. You can get it 781 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: from just about as long as it's high level. You 782 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: can get it from just about any kind of any 783 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: kind of card these days. Really is true, absolutely, and 784 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 2: I mean that with one sincerity. 785 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: Okay, that's it. What I missed? 786 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: What were some of your favorite fights? Leave a comment below, 787 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: as always, would love to hear from you about what 788 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: you saw. 789 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: And we'll be back next week, all right. 790 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: Thumbs up on the video, hit subscribe if you're listening 791 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: on a podcast, give this a show a thumbs up. 792 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Give more to combat A nice review. 793 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: I will talk to you guys next Monday, and until then, 794 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 2: enjoy the fights.