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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Junior with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome

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Speaker 1: into this week's ozone podcast. Is in it by by

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Speaker 1: Star and I think this week's guest is gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting to Jaguars fans. I think they know about him.

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Speaker 1: They know his name and know a little bit about

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Speaker 1: his history. But you know, he's uh down the practice

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Speaker 1: squad a lot of the year and it's now getting

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Speaker 1: some time, so I don't think people would have really

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Speaker 1: heard from him very much. I was fascinated by some

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Speaker 1: things he said during training camp though, so without further

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Speaker 1: ado Ozone Podcast guest this week is Lakwan Treadwell wide

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Speaker 1: receiver and Maquin. I appreciate you joining us. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much, Oh, thank you for having me. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a pleasure of you here. Now your story for

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Speaker 1: people don't know it, it's fascinating and I will get

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Speaker 1: into it a little bit, but suffice to say, it's

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Speaker 1: been a long NFL path for you. Along our football path.

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Speaker 1: You've been through a lot. Um do you feel that

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Speaker 1: way and where are you now? Mentally? Um, best I've

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Speaker 1: ever been mentally on and off the field in what way, UM,

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Speaker 1: just my mental process uh for games, UM, for practices, uh,

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Speaker 1: for life, you know, for my family, you know, for

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Speaker 1: my friends and anyone that's close to me that they're

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Speaker 1: getting the best version of me on a day to

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Speaker 1: day basis. And uh, you know, I really you know,

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Speaker 1: came into my own you know, I've been living my

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Speaker 1: life through football a lot, you know, starting a teen

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Speaker 1: years old twenty six now, so everything was football. And

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Speaker 1: as I entered to NFL and things didn't go my way,

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Speaker 1: you know, it kind of reshaped who I was as

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Speaker 1: a person, as a man, as her husband, UM, as

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Speaker 1: a child of God, and uh, you know, as a

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Speaker 1: teammate you know. So UM, you know I've learned a

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Speaker 1: lot throughout my journey, and you know, since standing here

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Speaker 1: you know, still going to practice, still working hard, um,

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Speaker 1: and still with those same dreams and goals that I

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Speaker 1: had since I first started. You know, UM, it just

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Speaker 1: shows me, you know, persistence and consistency is the key.

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Speaker 1: You know, even though you go through uh spurts in

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Speaker 1: your life. So UM, you know, I finally accepted everything

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Speaker 1: that's happened through for me to me and uh uh

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Speaker 1: you know, and in the NFL and and uh and

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Speaker 1: it allowed me to move forward in my life and

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Speaker 1: it allowed me to step into the president moment with

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Speaker 1: the best version of myself. So uh, just the best

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Speaker 1: version of myself right now. And for people who don't know,

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Speaker 1: first round picked by the Vikings, Uh played there four years,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and then spent a year in Atlanta. Uh.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times that first team after the original

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Speaker 1: team can be a tough fit. It feels like Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: is a good fit for you. You feel uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: talking to you in training camp, you felt like there

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Speaker 1: I did. From the first day it felt it felt

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Speaker 1: that's where to say being drafted to Minnesota and going

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, and that's all any player would

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Speaker 1: ever want, you know, just to you know, be coach

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Speaker 1: I got here, you know, it's been a long road

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Speaker 1: They still made me feel like I was a Jaguar

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Speaker 1: and and and I can help this team at one

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Speaker 1: much does that experience help you in terms of you know,

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Speaker 1: say control what you can control, and UM, with me

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Speaker 1: and be a better teammate. So, you know, with all

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Speaker 1: at this level. I can still play at a high level.

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Speaker 1: And UM, that's pretty pretty much what it taught me

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Speaker 1: and and and going to another team. Um, coming here

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Speaker 1: I met a lot of people. I learned different study

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Speaker 1: other receivers. You know, I learned a lot from Digs.

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Speaker 1: But it allowed me to you know, adapt a change,

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Speaker 1: I talked to you a couple of times in our lives,

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Speaker 1: and you know, prove myself every day and and you know,

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Speaker 1: change it to make it this? And I took those

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of ball being in the league

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Speaker 1: because that's what this league is. One guy goes down,

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