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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and today we're talking about my Montana public Land white

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Speaker 1: tail adventure. But I gotta warn you this is not

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Speaker 1: our best sounding audio episode. I'm in Montana. Dan was

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Speaker 1: having technical difficulties, so please bear with us on this

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Speaker 1: one and enjoy. All Right, Welcome to the Wired to

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Speaker 1: Hunt Podcast, brought to you by Sick Gear. Today is

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Speaker 1: going to be a little bit different podcast than usual

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Speaker 1: because we don't have a guest. I'm not at home.

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Speaker 1: I'm in Montana, and as I just told Dan, I've

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Speaker 1: been driving around town trying to find a building that

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Speaker 1: I can pull up next to and poach some WiFi from.

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Speaker 1: So so I'm recording from my truck behind a coffee shop.

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Speaker 1: So well, like I said, I'm in Montana, and uh,

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Speaker 1: as you know, Dan, I've got some interesting stories this year. Today.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm, like I said, I'm extremely jealous of you.

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Speaker 1: Um it's to the point now where I I think

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Speaker 1: I hate you, but I really I really don't hate you. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: thanks for that. I'm sorry that I inspired those feelings,

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Speaker 1: but it's purely jealousy. Oh man, I it's been pretty

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Speaker 1: cool out here. I've been out here in Montana the

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Speaker 1: last like five or six or five days or something

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Speaker 1: like that now and have had a pretty epic adventure.

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Speaker 1: Um man, it's been fun and I've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of story as I want to tell. I want to

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Speaker 1: tell everyone about how this hunt has gone. You know

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Speaker 1: that we've been talking about for a few months now,

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Speaker 1: kind of building up to this trip. Um. Before we

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Speaker 1: get to that, I guess really quickly, I want to

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Speaker 1: take our little break here that we typically have to

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Speaker 1: thank our partners at Sick of Gear who have been

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Speaker 1: a long time support of this podcast, and taking a

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Speaker 1: break from our usual Sickest Story segment, want to mention

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Speaker 1: the Diverge photo contest that sick had just launched a

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Speaker 1: little bit ago, which is their annual photo contests. Whether

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Speaker 1: they're looking for the most epic, raw, emotional, compelling, super

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Speaker 1: unique hunting photos that you can put together, and they are,

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Speaker 1: you know, then compiling all these pictures and then allowing

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Speaker 1: us the tribe members to vote on which ones we think,

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Speaker 1: you know, are the absolute best later this year. So

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Speaker 1: that contest just launched. If you want to submit your photos,

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Speaker 1: you can do that at sick gear dot com slash diverge,

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Speaker 1: and they're giving away some pretty sweet prizes to the

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Speaker 1: winners of those contests and really to even participants. They're

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Speaker 1: giving away sick of gear hats, a bunch of different

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Speaker 1: types of sick of gear go pros, the opportunity of

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Speaker 1: your pictures published in print and even in all expenses

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Speaker 1: paid trip to come here to Bozeman, Montana. So sick

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Speaker 1: of gear dot com slash diverge to get more details

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Speaker 1: or to submit your own photos. And uh and with

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Speaker 1: that now back to what's new in our white tail world?

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Speaker 1: Stand Um, Like I said, I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: trip to Montana that I'm extremely jealous about. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: I want to kind of do a little role reversal here, Dan,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna you play the host. I play the

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Speaker 1: And you know they're within, you know, somewhere within this area.

431
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: They had to have come off the public lands somewhere

432
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: because of the direction they were walking and where I

433
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 1: saw them, so I knew, you know it, Maybe it

434
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: wasn't right where I was hunting today, but I knew

435
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: that there were bucks that I could possibly hunt. So

436
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: that night hunt ended, I snuck out and I said, Okay,

437
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 1: I've got to I've got to make an adjustment tomorrow.

438
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: But that was what night number one looked like. Um,

439
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: so do you want me to move on to night

440
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 1: number two or do you have any questions about that hunt? Well,

441
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: my my question is did you hunt the next morning

442
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: or were you strictly hunting afternoons. Yeah, so my plan

443
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: was to not hunt the first couple of mornings because

444
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 1: I had a really good situation for evening hunts. Mornings

445
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: I felt less confident, So I thought, Okay, hunt the

446
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: first few days, just the evening's played a little bit safe.

447
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: Figure out how the deer using this area where they're bedded,

448
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,959
Speaker 1: when they're coming back to bed, all that stuff, and

449
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: then if you figure it out and you think you

450
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: can hunt mornings, then I would do that. The last

451
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: like four or five days, but the first couple of

452
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: days I was going to play a little bit safe

453
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: and just try to learn. So also, the other thing

454
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 1: to keep in mind is that right towards the end

455
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,959
Speaker 1: of my first night's hunt, it started to rain, and

456
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: it was on pace to just keep raining for the

457
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,959
Speaker 1: next two days almost So it started raining that night

458
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: and the next morning I woke up and it was

459
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: raining like crazy, And so my plan was to just

460
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: hop in my truck, well, hop out of the back

461
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: of my truck into the front of my truck and

462
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: just scout from the road again. And so I got

463
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: up really early and it just drove around some of

464
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: these hills. I could see down into the crop fields

465
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: around the public land, and I was just trying to see, Okay,

466
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: how long do these deer stay out feeding in the morning,

467
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: When are they going back to bed Where specifically are

468
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: they going back to bed um? And you know, are

469
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: there some other areas of this public that maybe I'm

470
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it could be good that are good.

471
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: So that's why I kind of tried to figure out.

472
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: And I found another field on the other side of

473
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: the property um that hadn't had deer in it when

474
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: I showed up in July and did have some box

475
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: in it this morning that this was like a Sunday morning,

476
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: I think. So I was like, okay, hey, there's an

477
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 1: option to option B on this piece um. But then

478
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: I also saw a bunch of deer on my main

479
00:22:53,640 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: section going back into bed on the public So what

480
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: were these food sources that these deer were heading out into. Yeah,

481
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: it was just a great, big, giant elf alfa field

482
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: um with handful of trees in the middle and some

483
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: little grassy breaks and stuff in and around there, but

484
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: mostly just big open elf alfa field um that they

485
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: were that is there a lot was the numbers? I

486
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: mean from you know, just from a number standpoint, where

487
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: are there a lot of deer? Did you see a

488
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: lot of deer while you're hunting out there? Yeah? So

489
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: that was a big difference between a lot of other

490
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: places I've hunted. Just a lot of deer, like, way

491
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: more deer than I'm used to seeing most other places.

492
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: So that they've got the cool thing about at least

493
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: this area, and I think it's relatively consistent and a

494
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: lot of good parts of Montana is that there are

495
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: very high deer numbers, and there's really a really great

496
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: buck to door ratio because it's just not very many hunters.

497
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: So it's not like here in Michigan where all the bucks,

498
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, year and a half old or anything are

499
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: getting shot. So in Michigan, you know, there's like one

500
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: buck to every five does or something crazy like that.

501
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's horrible, but out here it's like

502
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: one to one. I saw just as many, if not

503
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: more bucks than I saw does, and a very evenly

504
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: distributed age structure. So I saw a year and a

505
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: half holds. I saw lots of two and a half

506
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: year olds. I saw lots of three four Um, so

507
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: you're seeing, you know, lots of nice bucks. So just

508
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: from like an enjoyment standpoint, it was a blast just

509
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of deer and seeing a lot of

510
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: like nice looking bucks that would like at least get

511
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: your heart pumping enough to like pull up your binoculars

512
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: and say, oh, is that a shooter? Um? So that's

513
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: what I was seeing. So it rained. They two started

514
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: off raining in your truck. So you went on a

515
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: little drive. Did that? Did that rain let up towards

516
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: the evening of night? To no, it just kept on pouring,

517
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: so I scout in the morning. Then I came back

518
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: to camp, I took a nap in the truck, tried

519
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: to I did a little writing UM, and then around

520
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: I think one thirty year or maybe two, I decided

521
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: to go try to find this new spot. And so

522
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: based on what I've seen the first night, UM, I

523
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: was thinking these deer were coming out south of me,

524
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: and there was a change in wind direction that kind

525
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: of compelled me to have to go even farther south

526
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: to to be able to hunt without having my wind

527
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: blow back to where I thought these deer might be betted.

528
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: So I drove to the other side of the section,

529
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: parked my truck, put another standing sticks on my backpack

530
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: through my rain gear, and hiked out to this new

531
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: area across the river. Found another stand again that I

532
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: thought I could get into and see this area better.

533
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: And this spot this time I could see the fields

534
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: much better than I could night number one, because now

535
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: my goal was, Okay, I know they're not way far

536
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: north where I was. How far south are they? That's

537
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: why I wanted to figure out. So now I'm on

538
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: the far south part of the property, trying to confirm

539
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: where in the middle is this action happening? And it

540
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: didn't take long for me to figure that out. Um. Literally,

541
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm hanging the stand still and it's maybe three o'clock,

542
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: maybe three thirty, I don't know, pouring rain, and Um,

543
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm hanging the stand and I look out across the

544
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: field over by where I was hunting on the first night,

545
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: and here's like six bucks coming out in the field.

546
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: I'm like a son of a gun. Um. And that

547
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: was kind of the big lesson from that night. I

548
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: didn't see hardly anything down by where I was hunting,

549
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: like two doughs. All the deer, like like forty deer

550
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: or more, including I don't know, fifteen bucks maybe more.

551
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: All of them were coming out into the northern section

552
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: of the field, um, near where I was hunting the

553
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: first night, although maybe not ultimately right by there. Um.

554
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: And what I kind of found is that the reason

555
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: why that was happening is that that section of the

556
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: field was lush grain alfalfa. Still the section down the

557
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: south had been cut and was like all dried up

558
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: and and the deer weren't feeding down there. So so

559
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: that was what I took away from that. Oh and

560
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: I saw two bucks that like for sure. I was like, okay,

561
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: those are for sure shooters. There are a bunch of

562
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: like twinter Bucks, and there was two that I saw,

563
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: like okay, those definitely nice big body you know, representative

564
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: nice for spectable buck. Um. So I again felt good,

565
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: and I knew that those bucks were coming out somewhere

566
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: in this region. And I'd say it's like a like

567
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: a hundred two hundred maybe like a hundred fifty yard

568
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: tall like north to south section of field that is

569
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: that comes out of this adjacent public land. Um. So

570
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: then that that that left. I snuck out that night

571
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: and I had a game plan of the fact that Okay,

572
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: I need to move back north, but I think I

573
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: need to make one final tweak. Okay. So the next

574
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: question I have for you is in regards to where

575
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: these geer coming out the betting area, the you know,

576
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: the ending food source, where they were going. How big

577
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: of an area were you playing with here in terms

578
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: of acres? You know, the whole large section was probably

579
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: a couple of hundred acres um maybe um, but the

580
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: actual small area that I was focused on couldn't been Well,

581
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's less than that maybe maybe

582
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: we're talking like a hundred acre area total, but the

583
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: microregion that I was focusing on was really like probably,

584
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: oh gosh, maybe like twenty acres um because really I

585
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: was focused. I was hunting right on the edge of

586
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: the private land in the public land, so right in

587
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: the edge of the cover and the food um. And

588
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: then it was just like a maybe like four hundred

589
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: yards wide from north or four hundred yards long from

590
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: north to south maybe, and then you know, covers on

591
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: the west side, foods on the east side, and I

592
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: was just working my way up and down that line

593
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: from north to south, trying to figure out where is

594
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: the transition point where they coming through the most um.

595
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: And then you know, there was I don't know how

596
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: deep the deer were into the cover that they were bedded,

597
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 1: but one of the main things I found on night

598
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: number one is that they were not bedded right in

599
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: the edge, so I could move up and down that

600
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: transition line safely early in the day without needing, without

601
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: worrying about spooking deer. So that gave me confidence for

602
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: the next day that I could sneak in there and

603
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: and hang a new stand and just make that small

604
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: adjustment because I didn't need to worry about spooking deer

605
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: as long as I was in there early. UM. I

606
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: will point out that every night the deer were moving

607
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: super early. I mean by like three o'clock probably every

608
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: day three three thirty somewhere around there. UM, they were

609
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: deer heading out to feed, which was pretty surprising to

610
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: be compared to most other places I hunt. UM. But

611
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, these deer aren't pressured too much. And another

612
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: interesting thing that I noticed was the moontime. You know,

613
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: we've talked to a lot of different people about the moontime. UM.

614
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: I picked up the two thousand sixteen version of the

615
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Moon Guide, you know that Adam Hayes and Joe Miles

616
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: and guys like that talk about, and that just shows

617
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: you the overhead and underfoot times for the moon. And

618
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: as as we've talked about, you know what a lot

619
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: of people believe is that when the overhead or underfoot

620
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: time for the moon coincides with that last couple hours

621
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: of daylight or first couple of hours daylight in the morning,

622
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: that can lead to increased day movement. Well that was

623
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: happening during this week I was hunting. So I think

624
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: those first couple of days. The red moontime was like

625
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: three thirty and then day three or four twenty something. Um,

626
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: So so you know, it just could be circumstances. You know,

627
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: it could have been coincidence maybe, but at least in

628
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: this case, the deer movement times coincided very closely with

629
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: that moon time. So that was kind of interesting thing

630
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: I saw. All Right, So it's it's night three, Like

631
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: you're getting ready to go set up on night three, right, Um,

632
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: you didn't bump any deer going in. Um, you're set up?

633
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: How long? How long was it taken you to set up?

634
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: And how long between from the time that you started,

635
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, you got rested in the stand until you

636
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: were seeing deer. Yeah, so I want to I want

637
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: to rewind us a little bit and and describe how

638
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: I got to that point, um, because because so, like

639
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: I said on it, and two, I saw these deer

640
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: were farther up north. But you know, that night I

641
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: sat there thinking, Okay, I've got a tree stand up

642
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: there already that I could just walk in and hunt.

643
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: But I wasn't seeing the mature but I wasn't seeing

644
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: the big box come by that location. Now I knew

645
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: that part of that could be because those guys came

646
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: walking through and spoot some of those deer, so that

647
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: could be the reason why I didn't see the shooter box.

648
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Or I also knew that I could not see very

649
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: far south of me from that stand because of these

650
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: different trees in the way that I couldn't trim out

651
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: at all. So I knew that they were deer moving

652
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: through that I couldn't see between me and the river.

653
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: I was probably about a hundred yards from the river.

654
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: I was hundred yards north of the river, and I

655
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: heard a lot of deer splashing through the river. And

656
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: I had seen, you know, these other deer pop out

657
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: into the field that I never knew where they came from,

658
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: but I knew that they must have come out somewhere

659
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: around there. So I sat there thinking, well, I could

660
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: hunt the easy stand that's already there, or I could

661
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: bring in another stand and set up a new stand,

662
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: like sixty yards or fifty yards south of where hunt

663
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: that first night. So I ended up deciding to do

664
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: that because you know, you know, with a short amount

665
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: of time, you just gotta be a little more aggressive

666
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: and make things happen. Um And I thought, given the

667
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: wind direction I had, which was west northwest. Um, given

668
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 1: the wind direction and given what I'd seen on night

669
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: number one, number two, my hypothesis was that there were

670
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: deer filtering all throughout this little section, but the bigger

671
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: bucks were probably bedded in what looked like the very

672
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: best cover, which was right along the edge of that river.

673
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: So if that was the case, that means they are

674
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: probably the deer that were where they were traveling these

675
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: trails parallel to the river. That was my hypothesis, And

676
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: with the wind direction I had, it was gonna blow

677
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: me blow my wind out to the west and a

678
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, down to the south, and that

679
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: would allow any deer that came out that way, it

680
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: would allow that wind to be hopefully just cutting south

681
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: of them. That was my hope and my thoughts. So

682
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: I grabbed another stand sticks and the rain just finally

683
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: stopped around noon, so it's nice and wet, so I

684
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: could go in there quietly. But because of this west

685
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: northwest wind, I had to be careful about how I

686
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: accessed it, because I didn't want my wind to blow

687
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: down into the cover to the south, and because I'm

688
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: accessing from the north, and so that wind wanted to

689
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: be pushed down into the cover where they're beded. So

690
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: I've got my trees to I've got my sticks, so

691
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: I got my camera gear, I've got a pulse, I've

692
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: got all sorts of crap, my bow, my all that crap,

693
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: and I'm loaded down. So I have to walk way

694
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: out around. I walk up to the road basically, and

695
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: I walked the edge of the road way way way

696
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: far north, away from the property and the cover to

697
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: make sure I don't blow my wind into their circle

698
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: around get into the bottomed river bottom area, and I

699
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: just took my sweet time, and I was just really

700
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: careful and really quiet, and it was like one thirty

701
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, so I thought I wasn't there early enough,

702
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: and got down to the edge of the close to

703
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: the edge of the river. And when I got to

704
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: this area I wanted to be, I was torn between

705
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 1: two different trees. Um kind of just there weren't great trees.

706
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: All the trees are um interestingly, have just got clusters

707
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: of like I don't know if they're willows or some

708
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: kind a shrubby brushy thing. It's just thick as heck

709
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 1: coming out from all the bases of these trees. So

710
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: every tree I wanted to get into required like an

711
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: enormous amount of trimming to even get a set of

712
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: sticks on the tree. It was like just so thick um,

713
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: and a lot of it was dead brush, like dead limbs,

714
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: so it made a lot of noise when you're trying

715
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: to like push your way into there. So I just

716
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: had to painstakingly try to trim out a little section

717
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: of this brush so that I could get my sticks

718
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: up on that tree. Um. But the one thing I

719
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: did have going for me was, like I said, it

720
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: had rained, so the grass was quiet, and then it

721
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: was still kind of windy. It was pretty windy actually,

722
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: so I had some stuff disguising my sound. So long

723
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: story short, I tried to be as quiet as I

724
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: could and got the sticks up, got up in the stand,

725
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: and i'll tell you what DAN Like, as soon as

726
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: I got in that tree and like looked to see, okay,

727
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: exactly at what I could see from this tree stand,

728
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: I like I literally got shakes, like I was shaking,

729
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: and I got nervous in my stomach, like it was

730
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: the spot. And I just had this very very very

731
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: physical feeling that this was the spot. I've had that

732
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: happened twice before the night before I killed job shot

733
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: job breaker and eventually killed me, you know the story. Um.

734
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: And then the night that I went in last year

735
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: on October one and killed my buck in Michigan. Those

736
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: two times I felt like dead on, this is the

737
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: killing tree, this is the killing night, and it actually

738
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: panned out. And now this third time, UM, and so

739
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, this is the spot because here's

740
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: what this spot was. Damn. I was in this cluster

741
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: of trees, a small tree, but a cluster of trees

742
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: around me with lots of cover. And then like I said,

743
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: there was this like shrubby, nasty growth all underneath me.

744
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: And what I did, I didn't put my tree stand

745
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: too high. I just situated enough that like my lower

746
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: body was still covered by those shrubs, just my upper

747
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: half was above it. So you couldn't see me basically

748
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: at all if I was sitting down. Just if I

749
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: stood up, I could shoot over it to most anything

750
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: around me, so i'd awesome cover. And then to the

751
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: north of me, I could see this grassy field, this

752
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: kind of tall grassy field that I had been able

753
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: to watch the first night. But I could see more

754
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: of it now, And I had a number of trails

755
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: converging within about fifteen yards of me, all converging down

756
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: to a low spot in the fence between the private

757
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: and the public, so there's deer funneling that way to

758
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: cross there. And then to the south of me, I

759
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: had the river about forty yards away. Forty five yards

760
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: away the river was, and then I had several trails

761
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: running parallel between me and the river. So any deer

762
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: that wanted to travel through this area, basically we're pinched

763
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: down around me on either side, and my wind was

764
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: blowing parallel to those trails, so they would either be

765
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: north of me or south of me, but hopefully would

766
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: be you know not, it wouldn't be any kind of

767
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: like direct wind type situation. So I felt really good

768
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: about it. And now to answer your question you asked,

769
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: like ten minutes ago, as I'm hanging my camera up

770
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: like my camera arm, I catch a glimpse of movement,

771
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: like almost right underneath me. And here's it, like a

772
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: two year old eight pointer yards away while I'm still

773
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: getting set up, and so I'm like, crap, he must

774
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: have seen me. So I'm just frozen. But he's just

775
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of looking around and then he he beds, he

776
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: beds down yards away from me, and I'm like, crap,

777
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: now I can't move some stuck there hoping. Yeah, it was.

778
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: It was awful because I still don't have my stuff right.

779
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: I think my bow is in the tree, but my

780
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: camera gear is not set up. I've got my extra

781
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: warm layer still hanging on limbs because I hadn't put

782
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: those on yet. Um. But finally another buck comes through.

783
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: The first buck stands up, they'll slowly walk off, they

784
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: walk down, cross into the field, and they do get

785
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: into my wind So I'm like, okay, this is the

786
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: moment of truth. Are they going to win me? Or

787
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: will my scent control program work again? And you know, luckily,

788
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: the whole you know, the whole system that I that

789
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: I apply, which you know about you know, I spread

790
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: down a sent away, I put nose jam around my

791
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: boots in my tree, and I use those ox machine.

792
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Um that all worked because they got to my windstream.

793
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: They stood there for a second, sniffed around, and then

794
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: just kept on going. So that was a huge sigh

795
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: of relief. And um, I finally was able to get

796
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: my camera gear set up. Got my bow in the hangar,

797
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: and I got kind of situated and said, Okay, now

798
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: now things are going to happen. So so that's where

799
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: I'll leave things off. Was there any terrain features, I know,

800
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: you're you were talking about a river bottom. Uh, it's

801
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: fairly flat and river bottoms. But was there any like

802
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: little drainages in that area that you were hunting, or

803
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: any terrain features that you know, kind of you know,

804
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: brought the deer to your location that may have funneled

805
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: um or or made it as a pinch point of

806
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: some sort. So to your point, there was not a

807
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: whole lot of major terrain variation at all down in

808
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: the area was hunting. I guess it was. It was

809
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: high on either side, so it was kind of like

810
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: a big bowl. Um, You've got hills on either side.

811
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: And then down in the bottom is this this river

812
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: And then you know, like I said, like a four

813
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: yard wide swath of this flat land down on this

814
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: bottom where the river runs through, and then all this

815
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: cover was and then on the east side was the food.

816
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: So where I was actually hunting was pretty flat. Um,

817
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: So the only really funneling features was the cover itself. Um.

818
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: And so within that cover, like I said, there was

819
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: patchy mixes of tall grass, cottonwood trees and then this brushy, willowy, bushy,

820
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: shrubby crap um. So what seemed to happen is that

821
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: they were they were bedded in that very thickest stuff,

822
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: but they would travel into the openings. But typically we're

823
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: kind of along some of those edges. But what I

824
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: really saw was actually from the maps and then confirmed

825
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: when I was on the ground. But even on the maps, um,

826
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: you know, I got a hunt terror map from from

827
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: Ben and those guys made up for this piece of

828
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: publics and say is my number one option from that map,

829
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: and then from looking at some different online options too.

830
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 1: Even before I had that map, you could actually see

831
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: trails from the aerial view where these deer were using

832
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: a lot. So I knew a couple of these areas,

833
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: and I so based on I knew that there seemed

834
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: to be a lot of trails paralleling the river. And

835
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: then there was a couple more just north of that

836
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 1: um And now I was situated right between those two spots, um,

837
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: and it seems like those were the main main features

838
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: and why exactly they you know, use a couple of

839
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: those trails in the middle of the grassy area. I'm

840
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: not quite sure, um, but that's kind of what I

841
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: was seeing, all right, So two bucks right away before

842
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: your gear ever, you know, you finished shutting up. Did

843
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: you get it? I mean, as those two bucks worked

844
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: their way away from you out into that field, did

845
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: more dear automatically start coming out or did you have

846
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: time to get situated? So I have time to get situated,

847
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: but not very much. Um. I had just gotten things situated,

848
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: and then the kind the kind of parade started. Little

849
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: bucks does a little buck, A couple more does um?

850
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: But I'm situated. I'm watching, you know, I'm just a

851
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: few of them go south of me enough that they

852
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: get back into my wind again. I get nervous, but

853
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: I passed the test again, so I'm like, okay, like,

854
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: so far, so good, this this plan is working out.

855
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there. I can't remember, Ersecca, what I

856
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: was doing. I think I was watching this doe faun

857
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: that had gone out into the field, and I happened

858
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: to just catch a little glimpse of something underneath me,

859
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: like a little flash movement, and I looked down there

860
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: and there's a big buck literally right underneath me. But

861
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: like I told you, there's this brush and so like

862
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: you can see him, but there's no way I could

863
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: shoot him. And you know, all his deer had been

864
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: going from west to east heading out to feed. He

865
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: was going from east to west back into the cover,

866
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, crap, So he'd already walked past me.

867
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: I never heard him. I never saw him. And then

868
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: something happened. They didn't like maybe he caught me moving,

869
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: maybe he winded me, and now he's jogging back into

870
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: the cover. And it happened in a flash, you know,

871
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: I saw him. I spun around to try to grab

872
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: my bow and he was running away by then and

873
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: he disappeared. And so I just I was I was

874
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: pretty piste because like I had made the move, it

875
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: had worked out. I had put myself in this position.

876
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: On day three, I had a shooter at five yards

877
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: and I didn't even know it and I blew it,

878
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: and that was like, I was like, you know, what

879
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: was this? I so that night before night number two,

880
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: one of the big deer I had seen out there

881
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: in the field was a really tall dark horned eight pointer,

882
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: tight and tall, dark horned eight point with a really

883
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: big body, and he was like the best buck I

884
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: had seen that night, so he was the one I wanted. Well,

885
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: what I remember when I looked down at this buck

886
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: grind uneath me is that he had tall brow times

887
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: in a tight, tall frame. So I was like, it's

888
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: that buck. So I thought this was that nice tall

889
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: eight point maybe like one thirty, big bodied, you know,

890
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: it could have been a four year old or five

891
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: year old, just a cool looking buck. Um, that's what

892
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: I thought he was. So I was pretty bummed out

893
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: that potentially that the top buck that I've seen so

894
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: far had been right there, and uh, I did not

895
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: do what I was supposed to do with it. All right,

896
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: So that you said that was roughly so you had

897
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: what three hours of hunting light left? Yeah? Yeah, and

898
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: um and and I'll just continue actually because you know,

899
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm piste off about that. And then like a minute later,

900
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: maybe two minutes later, as I'm sitting there like, oh

901
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: my gosh, how did I miss that? Like how could

902
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: I not hear him? And well, the reason I couldn't

903
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: hear him because it was just so windy, like you

904
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: just couldn't hear any deer movement. So I decided, okay,

905
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: I just cannot I can't stay still, like I need

906
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: my head swiveling at all times because there's so many

907
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: deer moving through here. I need to make sure I

908
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: spot one of these bucks come through, especially on that

909
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: one section where that where that buck had been, I

910
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: had a very very small window that maybe I'm not sure,

911
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: but he might have walked through the small window. Um,

912
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: So I needed to make sure that if another buck

913
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: came through, I spotted him before he got into the

914
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: cover right underneath me. So I'm just head on the swivel,

915
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and

916
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: like two minutes later, bam, here comes a little buck,

917
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: a doll, a doll, big buck, big bodied, heavy horned

918
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: eight porn, not like a huge frame, but just like

919
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: a nice, heavy, big bodied eight pointer. All right, there

920
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: we go. So I grabbed my bow, turn on my camera,

921
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: start filming him, and he's at like sixty yards and

922
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: then he comes in fifty three and I'm like, okay,

923
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep angling in towards me. But then he

924
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: stopped at fifty two and he just stood there, kind

925
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: of looked around, and the other deer were filtering out

926
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: and and then they all started crossing the fence right

927
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: there fifty two yards, so they weren't coming to the

928
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: closer trails. So I wait, hoping maybe he'll come my way.

929
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: He turns, starts going towards the fence. I do one

930
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: light contact runt. He doesn't hear it. I try again

931
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: a little louder. He hears it. He looks up, takes

932
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: like two steps in my direction, keeps looking around, and

933
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: then he turns halfs the fence and keeps going. And

934
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna do any kind of crazy aggressive calling

935
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: because it's so early. I just thought maybe I could

936
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: get him to check it out based on curiosity if

937
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: I did a couple of like contact grunts, But that

938
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work. I didn't want to spook all the deer,

939
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: so I watched him feed out into the field away

940
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: from me, and off he goes, and a few more

941
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: dear filtered through the same story. And for the next

942
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, I'm like on edge, like I said,

943
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: constantly looking. Didn't want to miss a deer. But at

944
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: about that, like I don't know, it's like four o'clock

945
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: or four tens somewhere around there, I don't know give

946
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: or takes somewhere on this general region. I need to

947
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: like commiserate. So I texted a couple of my buddies

948
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: in Michigan and it was like I just blew it,

949
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: Like I just gave him the updately. I just totally

950
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: screwed up. And as I'm texting that, the first time,

951
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: I take my at tension off of the area around

952
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: on me. As I'm texting, I happen to catch a

953
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: glimpse of movement off the left of my eye again

954
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: and bam, here's a nice eight pointer again something like crap,

955
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Spin around, look at him, looks like a shooter, Grab

956
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: my bow, turn on the camera, zoom in grammar range finder.

957
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, uh, maybe not. I don't think

958
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: he's I don't think he's mature. He might have been

959
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: a three year old, maybe a two year old, kind

960
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: of iffy and in between. And I was like, you

961
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: know what, if I don't immediately want to shoot him,

962
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: then I'm not going to pass him. Like if he's

963
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: not a for sure shooter, I'm not gonna shoot. So

964
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: I just sat there watching him and filling them a

965
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: little bit. And then he keeps looking over his shoulder,

966
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: and I keep looking back there trying to see was

967
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: looking at and he's now he's he's doing two things.

968
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: He's looking over his shoulder and then he's sniffing the

969
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: ground around him, and that's because he's standing right in

970
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: the trail. I walked to my tree stand. But luckily,

971
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: you know what we've said a thousand times, that knows

972
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: JamMan really seems to do the trick because he kept

973
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: sniffing around, sniffing around. He smelled it, but didn't know

974
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: what the heck it was. Never smelled me, and he

975
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: just continued on his way. So he looks over shoulder again.

976
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: I look again, and then I see the dark, big bodied, tight, tall,

977
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: chocolate horned a barner and I say, that's the one.

978
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: At that point I see him, I'm like, that's the

979
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: big eight from last night. Maybe it's the same one

980
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: I saw earlier that you know, ran past me underneath

981
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: my stand. Turn the camera back on, spin, grabbed the

982
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: bow spin background so I can get to the other

983
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: side of the tree, and now I'm in shoot mode

984
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: and I'm just waiting for the smaller eight porn to

985
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: move off so that the big one will follow him,

986
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 1: and long story short, I'll cut right to the chase

987
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 1: here and keep this simple. The smaller a porn moved off,

988
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: the big eight pointer walked past, came just out from

989
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: behind this tree. I drew back. He walked through it

990
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: like yards, and I just waited till he naturally stopped.

991
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: He was slightly courting away. I settled the pen released

992
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: Aaron went right through his heart and he took off running,

993
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: and then I had a mini melt down on the tree.

994
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so many emotions just went through my

995
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: like through my head, like I'm I just I'm jacked

996
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: for you. I'm I'm pumped for you, but now I'm

997
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: jack for the rest of the hunters and myself, you know,

998
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: because you know, the majority of the Midwest has to

999
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: wait until you know, later in September or October. But uh,

1000
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm dude, that's awesome, Thank you man. It was crazy.

1001
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: It was like in that you watch him drop. Well

1002
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: that was the funny thing is that no, I didn't

1003
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: see him drop because so I shoot, he goes running off,

1004
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: and like I mentioned, there's this tree in between me

1005
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: and this larger grassy area, and they all the dear

1006
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: him that smaller buck, and a couple of days that

1007
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: ended up walking up that I never knew were there.

1008
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: They all go running behind this tree. So I I

1009
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: follow them up to the tree, and then they disappeared

1010
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: behind the tree, and then I see a deer run

1011
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: out the other side of it, and so I just

1012
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: locked onto them, and I saw one that seemed to

1013
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: have like a shaky butt, you know, as he was running,

1014
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: he just kind of be like kind of drunkenly swerving.

1015
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: It's like that's him. And then he hits. He gets

1016
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: to this ditch line. Looks like he kind of tumbled

1017
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: into the ditch, like it took a weird jump. But

1018
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: then I saw a deer jump out the other side,

1019
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: and like, crap, like how did he? I thought it

1020
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: was a perfect shot. He should have been down. So

1021
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: I wait, awhile, you know, I post social media or whatever,

1022
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: and then I get down check the arrow. Arrow looks great,

1023
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: Everything looks good, and you know, this is stupid, you

1024
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't do this, But I was so excited and so

1025
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: confident about the shot. I was like, you know what,

1026
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: I know he got to that ditch and there's this

1027
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: little opening in the brush along the ditch. I was like,

1028
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: I know he got to there. I think he couldn't

1029
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: have gone very much further than that. So I'm just

1030
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna skip ahead to the ditch. Fine blood at the

1031
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: ditch right where I know he crossed, and then he's

1032
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: got to be just on the other side. So I

1033
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: go walking over there and I start looking at day

1034
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: it and I look past the ditch and I don't

1035
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: see anything. I start looking for blood. I don't see anything,

1036
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, this is weird. Now we've talked,

1037
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: I've got that's pretty bad, right, I was so day excited. Um,

1038
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I I don't see blood as well

1039
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: as some people because I've got a little bit of

1040
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: red green color blindness. So I can see red and

1041
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: green just fine, but sometimes in like certain lighting or

1042
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: when they're contrasted against each other, they don't pop out

1043
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: as much. So like red blood on green grass or brush,

1044
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't pop for me like it does for other people.

1045
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: Like I'll be with friends and they see blood from

1046
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: a longer distance than me, and it just it shows

1047
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: up a lot easier for them. For me. I've got

1048
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: to like focus in on the spot and then oh,

1049
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: there it is, so I'm like thinking of my head, gosh,

1050
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: like there should be an easy blood trail, but I'm

1051
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: an idiot, and my genetics have forced me to suck

1052
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: at blood trailing, and I'm not, like, what's going on here?

1053
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: How come I can't find this? Dear? So, after like

1054
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: looking back and forth along this ditch, just trying to

1055
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: find a speck of blood so I can start. After

1056
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen minutes or something, I find, like,

1057
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, stopping an idiot, go back to the beginning.

1058
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: So I decided to walk back to where the arrow

1059
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: was and start from the beginning. And I'm as I'm

1060
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: walking back, though, I've got my eyes on the ground,

1061
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of hoping maybe I'll randomly come

1062
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: across some blood. As I walked back, and I'm walking, walking, walking,

1063
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: and then like ten yards in front of me, I

1064
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: see this big brown blob and I look up and

1065
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: there he is. He had died like sixty seventy yards

1066
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: away from the tree stand, just behind that tree right away,

1067
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: and he just dropped and I couldn't see it, and

1068
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: I had no idea who was right there the whole time.

1069
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 1: That was that and that was that he was right there.

1070
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: But this isn't where the story ends, is it. Uh well,

1071
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: I guess what do you specifically mean? Because not completely,

1072
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: but well, you found the deer, right, and uh you

1073
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: had to drag him back to your truck. But it

1074
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: did you forget something? Oh yeah, So so in my excitement,

1075
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: you know, of of surprisingly coming across the buck there,

1076
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, I immediately you know. And this is in

1077
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: the aftermath I realized what I did. But when I

1078
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: spotted the buck, I set my bow down and then

1079
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: I ran over the buck and I got my camera

1080
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: and I filmed the recovery and was all happy, happy,

1081
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And at that point and then I realized,

1082
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: holy smokes, I have so much work to do tonight still,

1083
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: because on all my own I've got to I've got

1084
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: to get back to my camp, get my other camera,

1085
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: drop off all this other crap, and then come back

1086
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: and try to take some photos and try to do

1087
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: some stuff like that while it's still daylight. And then

1088
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: of course I got to clean them out and then

1089
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: drag him back all by myself through this like nasty stuff.

1090
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: And um, I was like, man, this is gonna be

1091
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: a lot of work. So I'm like rushing around just

1092
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: trying to do all this stuff. So I get the

1093
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: buck clip, well not get the camera, come back, take photos, video,

1094
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: got him. I bought this little thing called a deer

1095
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: layer or something. It's basically just like a roll up

1096
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: piece of plastic that you can use this kind of

1097
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: like a sled to kind of get him out a

1098
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: little bit easier. And I'm glad I had that. Um

1099
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: it's not perfect, but it definitely made a little easier

1100
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: to drag him out on my own because it was

1101
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: a long drag and like I said, it was flat.

1102
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: It was relatively flat in the bottom ground. But to

1103
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: get out and back to camp, I had to come

1104
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 1: out of the bowl and then go up this big

1105
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: hill and then just up and down, up and down,

1106
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: up and down hills all the way out to the

1107
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 1: top where my camp was. So it was a rugged

1108
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: drag out and it was it was exhausting. Um. So

1109
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: I get back to camp finally with the buck it's

1110
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: after dark. It's like, I don't know, I shot that

1111
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: bucket like for something, and I got him back to camp,

1112
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, ten thirty eleven thirties somewhere

1113
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: around there, some zonked and I'm like getting stuff around

1114
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: in camp and thinking about what am I gonna make

1115
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: for dinner? And then I think to myself, where's my bow?

1116
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: I look around camp. I set it down the table,

1117
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: I said it on the ground. I cannot find my bow.

1118
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: I lost my freaking bow. So I was kind of

1119
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: panicky that night, and I'm like, oh my gosh, did

1120
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: I like set it down where I parked my truck,

1121
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: Like did I run over my bow somewhere? Did I

1122
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: leave it out in the middle of the woods somewhere.

1123
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: So I thought about just going out right then at

1124
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: night and trying to find it, but it was dark

1125
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: and I was whooped. So I thought, okay, I'll go

1126
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: out first in the morning because I had to go

1127
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: out and pulled down my tree stands anyways. So so

1128
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: that's what I did. I waited till first light the

1129
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: next day, snack back out there, and I the first

1130
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: place I decided to go was back where I saw

1131
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: the deer where I found the buck, because I started thinking, well,

1132
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: maybe I had it and dropped it there, And that's

1133
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: what I did. I'd set it down right next to

1134
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: the buck, or not right next to about fifteen yards

1135
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: away from it, and there was covered in frost, and

1136
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: I got my bow and pulled down my tree stands

1137
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: and hurried back up to the truck and drove back

1138
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: to town and dropped off the deer at the taxidermist.

1139
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: And that was that because because you're not you're not

1140
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: coming back, right, so you do that that bow kind

1141
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: of finding it was probably a big relief because you

1142
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: weren't coming back or you didn't have a backup bow

1143
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: because you're going right to the mountains for elk right now,

1144
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: right right. Yeah, I was like, I really need to

1145
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 1: find this stupid thing because I don't have a really

1146
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: boring week. I don't have boring week in the mountains

1147
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: if I don't have a bow out there. So so yeah,

1148
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: I I found that and got back in the town

1149
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: and I dropped off the bucket the processor to get

1150
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: the meat taken care of, and took the took the

1151
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 1: skull to a taxidermist here to get a euro mountain

1152
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: done because he can't bring back a full skull with

1153
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: brain matter and all that kind of good stuff into

1154
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: it into Michigan. Um so, so I had had that

1155
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: taken care about here, and then I'm now I'm here

1156
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: in Bozeman, and I'm all I'm all ready to rock now.

1157
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: Funny story, I had so much fun out there that

1158
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: originally my plan was to hang out here in town,

1159
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: um until you go, I'll hunting and just like fly

1160
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: fish for a couple of days and do some work.

1161
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: But I got to thinking today, you know, it just

1162
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: be fun to go back to my spot and just

1163
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: hang a stand and watch these deer and film these deer.

1164
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: So I actually think after we get off the air

1165
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: here tonight, I'm going to drive back to my original

1166
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: spot and just sit out there for a couple of

1167
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: days and watch and take some pictures and video and

1168
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: just kind of enjoy deer as a spectator. Yeah, I

1169
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: think that's an awesome thing to do, because, you know,

1170
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: if you ever want to come back to Montana uh

1171
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: and do some you know, do some hunting in that air,

1172
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: in that particular area, you're gonna know, you're gonna have

1173
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: a great idea. You're gonna be able to even even

1174
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: just a night or two as a spectator. You're gonna learn,

1175
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, so much more about that property. Yeah. Yeah,

1176
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: just keep keep learning and maybe I can take a

1177
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: thing or two away from that and apply it to

1178
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: a future year, because this is definitely the kind of

1179
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: spot I would be interested in coming again. I mean,

1180
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: it was just it was a lot of fun. I

1181
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: saw alid of deer, there were nice bucks and beautiful

1182
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: of hill area, and um, you know, not a lot

1183
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: of other people. There are those two guys that one night,

1184
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: but that was it. Um So, man, it was just

1185
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: a super cool experience. And you know, coming into it,

1186
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be it was gonna be

1187
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: a big challenge. I to be honest with like a

1188
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: little intimidated. I was like, Wow, this is like a

1189
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of new stuff, like new state, new time of year.

1190
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: I've never hunted this time of year. I've I've never

1191
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: done a big state trip that was dependent on public land.

1192
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: Um So, a lot of new things and that you know,

1193
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: I did not know if for sure I'd be able

1194
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: to pull it off. Um So, having actually been able

1195
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: to do it, you know, in three days and make

1196
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: the right adjustments and moves and stuff, was it was

1197
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: really um I don't know, it was just it was

1198
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: really fulfilling and fun. And I'm very proud of having

1199
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: been able to do that and have this trip and

1200
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: it was just a cool experience too. Now my question

1201
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: is you know you've haunted other states, right, Um, but

1202
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: the trip is just I mean from Michigan where you live,

1203
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: to Iowa, what's that six hours? Uh? Yeah, to the

1204
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: edge of Iowa's bout six hours? So now from where

1205
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: you live to where where you hunt? Was that what

1206
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: was that a twenty hour drive? Hour drive? So what

1207
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: is there? Is there a difference going even further than that?

1208
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean, what did you have any expectations going into this?

1209
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: Going into this hunt? Uh? I mean were you okay

1210
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: with failing? I mean, as the hunt would have gotten

1211
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: closer to an end where you're going to go for

1212
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 1: a lower caliber buck where you gonna shoot a dough

1213
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: what was your what was your goal? Yeah? So like

1214
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: I you know, like I just said, going into it,

1215
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be a big challenge. So

1216
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: because of that, I was I was pretty focused on

1217
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: like just trying to have a great experience and like

1218
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: look at it as like an adventure and a learning opportunity. Um. So,

1219
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: so I had relatively low expectations. Um, but I also

1220
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: thought I was definitely I definitely thought I'd put myself

1221
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: in a position that I could succeed. I just wasn't

1222
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: gonna be bummed if I didn't. UM. So I went

1223
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: into it saying I wanted to shoot a mature representative buck.

1224
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 1: So you know, like I talked to earlier, a nice

1225
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: buck that was at least three to four years old. UM.

1226
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to hold out for something crazy, big,

1227
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: crazy old. UM. I just want to get a nice buck.

1228
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: If I could pull that off. With all these things,

1229
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna really happy. Um. And then I just

1230
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: wanted to like enjoy the whole trip. You know, it

1231
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: wasn't just about killing a buck. It was also about

1232
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,479
Speaker 1: being in Montana and camping for a week and being

1233
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: in a new beautiful place and you know, just like

1234
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of some like so low time, you know, being

1235
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: on a trip on by myself, lots of time to

1236
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: just kind of think and figure it out on my own. UM.

1237
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: So that was kind of my goal is to just

1238
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: enjoy it, learn it, learn the area, to try something new,

1239
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: and just see if I could like put myself into

1240
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: this new st situation and figure it out. Um. That

1241
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: was what the goal was. That's what my thoughts were. UM.

1242
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: As far as like you know, the type of deer

1243
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: or deer herd. I'd say it kind of lived up

1244
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: to expectations in that way. Like my thought was that

1245
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, in Montana or some of these western states,

1246
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: there's lots of deer, there's lots of nice bucks, um,

1247
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: and you know, early season you can get on them

1248
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: with their you know, bed feed pattern, and that's kind

1249
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: of what happened. Um, that's why I saw, that's what happened.

1250
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: So it was a lot of fun from that standpoint,

1251
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: just because it was a there's a lot of action.

1252
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: You're you're always seeing deer and that's a lot of fun,

1253
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: especially at the beginning of the year, when you're just

1254
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: stoked to be out there, to be able to be

1255
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: out there and to see a lot of deer and

1256
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: a lot of bucks that like get you excited. That

1257
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: was that was awesome. Well yeah, that whole Western hunt,

1258
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, has all has always sparked my interest, but

1259
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: now going west for white tails, it just seems to

1260
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: me like it's another reason just to go out less.

1261
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: So it's you got you sparked my interest us with this.

1262
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, it's uh, I think the only the

1263
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: only issue with me going on all these. You know,

1264
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: I've try to go to new places as often as

1265
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: they can. The only issue with that is that I

1266
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: find the spots and I like them so much. I'm like, oh,

1267
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm going back there every year. So I don't know

1268
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do because now I'm like, well, I

1269
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: want to elk hunt somewhere every year, and now I

1270
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 1: want to go whitetail hunt in the Western State every year,

1271
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: and all I want to do this Midwestern state and

1272
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: that miss what Midwestern state? And oh, I really want

1273
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: to go Alaska someday, and man, I can't do it all.

1274
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: But man, there's there's a lot of cool opportunities out

1275
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: there for hunters if you're willing to try new things

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, put some time and work into it.

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Speaker 1: That's That's something I've definitely learned that you you do

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Speaker 1: not need a lot of money and an outfitter or

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Speaker 1: lease or something like that to go have a quality

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Speaker 1: out of state hunting trip. I mean, over the last

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Speaker 1: like ten years or whatever it's been, I've gone to

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Speaker 1: so many different states all over the country. Now, I've

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Speaker 1: gone east, I've gone Midwest, I've gone far west, and

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Speaker 1: I've done it all on my own, and I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: between the age of like twenty two and now twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of money. It's not like

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Speaker 1: I've got some big paying job. I've been able to

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Speaker 1: pull it off by sleeping in my truck or sleeping

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Speaker 1: afforded our hotel room and just figuring things out. And

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Speaker 1: you know, some schuckle with me has been able to

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Speaker 1: go to these places and not always kill deer and

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Speaker 1: not always killed giant deer or whatever, but I've been

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Speaker 1: able to go out there and have fun and see

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Speaker 1: nice deer and have great white tail experiences. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's another big confirming thing for me out of

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Speaker 1: this trip is just that anyone can do it, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're willing to put some time and energy and

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Speaker 1: maybe sacrifice some of some fancy things at home so

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Speaker 1: you can have a little extra money to buy a

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Speaker 1: nonresident tag and pay for gas. Um, you can do

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Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Anyone can do this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: right right. Well, congrats Mark, thank you sir. I appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you dealing with our technical difficulties here

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Speaker 1: today to to try to talk through this. It's been

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Speaker 1: a little bit challenge and it's not our our best

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Speaker 1: sounding podcast ever, but um, but hey, you're in Iowa

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Speaker 1: with a crappy computer issue and I'm in Montana in

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Speaker 1: a parking lot and we're making it work right. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think I think the listeners always have kind of

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Speaker 1: low expectations for this podcast anyway, so uh, you know

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Speaker 1: they're they're okay with it. And what's perfect is that

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Speaker 1: when you said low expectations, you cut out right at

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Speaker 1: that moment. So yeah, I think it's a I think

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Speaker 1: that's a perfect sign. So we'll wrap this episode up.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back here soon with regular higher quality audio

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Speaker 1: episodes soon. Um. Before we close it out though really quickly,

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Speaker 1: of course, need to thank our partners who helped make

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Speaker 1: this podcast possible. So thank you to Sick Gear, Redneck Blinds,

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Speaker 1: Hunter a Maps, Yettie Cooler's Osonics, Carbon Express, may Haven

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Speaker 1: Optics in the White Tailed Institute of North Erica. Big

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Speaker 1: things for those guys. And finally, thank you all for

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Speaker 1: listening to this interesting, interesting podcasts and one way or another,

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Speaker 1: and for following along with my hunt, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the blog and social media and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I've gotten so many messages and tweets and emails and

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Speaker 1: stuff of all of you guys supporting me on this

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Speaker 1: trip and rooting me on, so thank you for that,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and of course, as always, stay wired

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Speaker 1: to hunt