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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. It's real to me. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanzas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosa Doll. What's up? Boys? Hey da, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 1: We were just treated to roughly what eleven twelve minutes

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Speaker 1: of Dan rapping in the studio well when we got

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Speaker 1: when we got in, well before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: also sitting in with us for a whole show. We're

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Speaker 1: so excited. Uh. She is from the NFL Now Game

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Speaker 1: Day Blitz program, NFL Now in general. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the talent Um contributors Network Fantasy Live on

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Speaker 1: Wednesdays or Best uh on the old Network. Her name

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Speaker 1: is Colleen wolf As. If she needs an introduction, the

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Speaker 1: wolf Woman is up. No awkward eyes, Okay, I feel

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Speaker 1: like you're okay with that. Yeah, I am totally okay.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Hey, it's great to be here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, when we came into the studio today, there's

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Speaker 1: this R and B podcast that our old friend t

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Speaker 1: of a real. I think it might have been a freestyle,

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Speaker 1: but it sounded as if it was written down with

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Speaker 1: little hyped up. And yeah, maybe at the end of

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Speaker 1: the show, Um, Sydney, we can, you know, play some

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Speaker 1: of my rapping because I'm working well Dan. People that

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Speaker 1: don't know Dan is a world class singer and he

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Speaker 1: treats us to his music before every show. Really, and

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Speaker 1: I was going to save this for our Thursday night preview,

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Speaker 1: but since it came up, Sydney, I would love the

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Speaker 1: guys to hear. They weren't here on Thanksgiving night, but

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Speaker 1: Dan had us. Was I here a special performance on

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Night for for myself and Sydney and d'angela. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember this. It's like Ora my own bo It

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Speaker 1: waits so much. Oh no, kissing Olivia? Mind? Please you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? You know what. I'm not even happy that

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Speaker 1: taunting the two time m v p UH Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: champion Aaron Rodgers. Apparently, listen when you when you walk

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Speaker 1: into NFL network on Thanksgiving night and just knockout some

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Speaker 1: now hits. Sometimes stuff comes out. It was it was

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Speaker 1: more of you're right, It was more of an injury analysis.

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Speaker 1: I have all the respects in the world for an

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Speaker 1: Rodgers as a player. Well, you should be fine, because

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Speaker 1: you know, history tells us that Olivia mun does not

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Speaker 1: react to her name being put out there in the press.

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Speaker 1: So is that I don't even know she She should

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Speaker 1: be working on Broadway or a local less ran around

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Speaker 1: of Hollywood. Well, she took one Packers beat reporter to

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Speaker 1: town and various others. After the initial controversy of whether

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers if his relationships getting the way of his play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she tweeted at somebody and said, you're probably having problems

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Speaker 1: think that's fair. There's nothing dumber than than a video

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Speaker 1: video on NFL now right now. Actually, wasn't it a joke? Though? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it wasn't that. Um, Okay, so Colleen's here,

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Speaker 1: We're excited. The wolf woman is with us, So we

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Yep, we got to talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Mark Monday night football between the Ravens and Browns,

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Speaker 1: which I don't nowhere ended up being among the most

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Speaker 1: not the ending that Browns fans we're looking for. In fact,

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Speaker 1: a little bit about some coaches on the hot seat,

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Speaker 1: some hot butts across the NFL. UM, A lot of

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna welcome back uh you know, a colleague,

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Speaker 1: a man who hasn't been on the show in a

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Speaker 1: off his chest. It is Connor Or with another edition

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Speaker 1: of or You Kidding Me? Love? Are you kidding Me? So?

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Speaker 1: football guys, let's get right into it. Uh A big matchup, Well,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, ton of things like that. Wes, what you did?

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Speaker 1: what we learned. What were your thoughts on the game overall? Well,

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Speaker 1: that you're putting Tannehill. You give him all these easy

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Speaker 1: throws within ten yards of the line of scrimmage. Then

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Speaker 1: the NFL defense is catch up to it. And where

428
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Speaker 1: does that leave you? Now? Back to square one without

429
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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson to turn your career. Mark the final word,

430
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Speaker 1: you did have one on one conversation with Bill Lazer.

431
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Speaker 1: Will never know what was said in that comvo. Well

432
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Speaker 1: right here, you know, I think a little bit came

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Speaker 1: out of it. I think in general, if you're a

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Speaker 1: coach and I call you up, I'd be concerned about

435
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Speaker 1: that because I also spoke to Mike Patton before the

436
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Speaker 1: season and it's like everyone, yeah, Mark, trustman, a lot

437
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: of your boys. Yeah. So you know, if if you hear,

438
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Speaker 1: if you get my cell phone on yours, you just

439
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: you don't Dan Quinn who got a job. Yeah, team

440
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,479
Speaker 1: is in free fall. Moving on. That's interesting, that's interesting

441
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Speaker 1: insight there didn't expect it. Rob Gronkowski, Uh, you know,

442
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: A hush fell over the Around the NFL podcast studio

443
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Speaker 1: on Sunday night when Gronk got banged in the knee

444
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter against the Broncos, and it certainly

445
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Speaker 1: appeared at the time he had suffered another season ending injury,

446
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: but that is not the case. He has no structural

447
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Speaker 1: damage or tears in that knee. It's a it's being

448
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Speaker 1: labeled a strain. He's gonna miss it most a week,

449
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: according to rap sheet uh As. Kevin Patra wrote in

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Speaker 1: his piece thank the Football Gods. Yeah, and they're playing

451
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Speaker 1: the Eagles, so they should be fine. Yeah, they're They're

452
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Speaker 1: in good shape. So Gronk. I think we're all happy

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Speaker 1: that Gronk is still gonna be in the picture. And

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Speaker 1: this is a potential Greg Rosenthal season saver for your Patriots.

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Speaker 1: It is. It gives them a chance to win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think it would have been really difficult

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Speaker 1: without him and all these injuries. Maybe I'm an optimist,

458
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: the only one. We don't really know that any of

459
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Speaker 1: them are out for this season except for Dion Lewis.

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00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if they get Amundola, Edelman, Jamie Collins, Donte

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Speaker 1: Hightower and Gronk back, you can't really expect them all

462
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Speaker 1: to return healthy. But let's say you get three or

463
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Speaker 1: four out of aren't they all supposed to return as

464
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Speaker 1: supposed to return healthy, but maybe something goes wrong or

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Speaker 1: you get hurt again. You know, they're right in shape

466
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Speaker 1: as the faceture you're saying, it could all come together

467
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: when it really counts, you'll be okay. They don't play

468
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Speaker 1: a team better than six and five before the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and if all those guys are act by January, they

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Speaker 1: have to be considered the favorite. And as Gronk knows,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, the officials were targeting him unfairly, so maybe

472
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Speaker 1: this will give them. You did say that, I think

473
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Speaker 1: I give him some time to reflect in the mirror.

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Speaker 1: And right by the five o p i s when

475
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Speaker 1: he never had five his whole career before that, there

476
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Speaker 1: are thirty teams that haven't had five O p i s.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, people just gotta deal with that. Gronk

478
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Speaker 1: is just bigger than stronger than everybody. And sometimes yeah exactly,

479
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Speaker 1: uh yeah, so you're gonna You're okay, you're ten and one, Greg,

480
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Speaker 1: Everything's fine. They're cruising on through January. So your favorite

481
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Speaker 1: team in the super Bowl again, what a blessing. It's

482
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Speaker 1: stressful though, covering your favorite team watching it there, That

483
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Speaker 1: is true, Greg, to It's tough. I can't tell you

484
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Speaker 1: that from personal experience, and neither can anyone else in

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Speaker 1: the room. Must be really hard. Um, Yes, the throne

486
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Speaker 1: of ease is alive. And well, anyone that was nervous

487
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Speaker 1: after Sunday, everything's fine and that is what is happening.

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Speaker 1: All right. Listen first, well, Colleen, how are things going

489
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Speaker 1: so far? I think they're smooth. Everything is going completely smooth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Colleen and I are going to do a little later today,

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Speaker 1: an NFL now hit together. I wrote a piece on Thanksgiving, um,

492
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Speaker 1: putting together my opinion on a Super Bowl fifty halftime

493
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Speaker 1: show that would work. Oh, that's what it's about. That's

494
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Speaker 1: that's what it's about. Uh. The person, the talent manager

495
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Speaker 1: ahead ahead of me, that has his own office talent

496
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Speaker 1: making up, making up things. Now, I asked me, who

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Speaker 1: do you want to do this with? I said, oh,

498
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Speaker 1: the wolf set. But it's going to be yes, you

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Speaker 1: can see it that as a shot at Markustock if

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Speaker 1: you were so inclined, or are a wolf for that matter,

501
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: Many wolves guys causing trouble anyway, It is time now,

502
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Speaker 1: so let's have some fun with that. All right, I

503
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Speaker 1: can't wait. You guys check it out. Yes, we'll send

504
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Speaker 1: link out. It's your big prediction. I mean, you might

505
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Speaker 1: as well tell us who do you think? Well, what

506
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Speaker 1: the press release has stated is that it's going to

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Speaker 1: be like a celebration of the through the years of

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Speaker 1: the past fifty years of the NFL with the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty upon us the golden anniversary. Um so there's

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Speaker 1: going to be a new act, but also passed acts

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Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl halftime show. Um so there were

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Speaker 1: I just threw out a couple I thought would make

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Speaker 1: sense prints Uh you two maybe Beyonce, Uh maybe McCartney

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Speaker 1: or the Rolling Stones. Maybe get that Janet Jackson, Timberlake combot.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I included Janet. I thought that Timberlake. I

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Speaker 1: didn't like how Tympic La play it played it with

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Speaker 1: Janet kind of threw under the bus. They would never.

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Speaker 1: They would never. First of all, she has no like

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Speaker 1: current juice in society. Second of all, they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna break back the woman that they That's

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Speaker 1: why we got Errol Smith for nine straight year. Exactly

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Speaker 1: what about up with people? Oh no, I said, like

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Speaker 1: this was I wrote my piece. Thanks for reading Mark

524
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Speaker 1: that if if like you want to do your own show.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead if you want to put up with people

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Speaker 1: at the University of Missouri Marching band. These are all

527
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Speaker 1: things that have been in the past as well. Down

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Speaker 1: down with people. What would be West your dream halftime act? Realistically?

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and fifty two? Many times? Did I

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Speaker 1: have to say it? Last year, Emmy Lou Harris, I

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Speaker 1: was actually gotta say he would about me? You asked me.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised he didn't choose the u c l A

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Speaker 1: bluegrass Bandy s oh, I love the u c l A.

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Speaker 1: That would that would get That was my best, uh

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Speaker 1: my best experience with live music since I moved to

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Speaker 1: l A. Very nice all right, So let's now talk

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Speaker 1: about yes it was teased earlier, let's talk about some

538
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: hot butts segment Hot butts uh coaches on the hot

539
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Speaker 1: seat as we head into the final stretch of regular season.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, I suppose some years are more

541
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Speaker 1: than others, but this feels like there is a healthy

542
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Speaker 1: amount of hot butt in the NFL right now. So

543
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: why don't we go around the horn Wolf woman included,

544
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: and each throwout a butt that's uh searing right now?

545
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Speaker 1: We'll start with you, Mark Sessler. I think some of

546
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Speaker 1: these people are It's it's a foregone conclusion with I'm

547
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: gonna go Chip Kelly because I think that what was

548
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: promised in all the high praise and the long, thin

549
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: pieces written about this coach and the culture he is

550
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: going to create and all this stuff, what you've created

551
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 1: is one of the most boring teams in the entire NFL. Well,

552
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: it's a quarterback proof offense. Right until this season. It is, well,

553
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: we were right up until now. But if the flaws

554
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: are exposed when it comes to Kelly, I think the

555
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: thing is, though there's still time in that terrible to

556
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: division to maybe rewrite the script for the end of

557
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: the year. It may come down if Kelly still wants

558
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: to do this too. I think there's a lot of

559
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: going both ways, questions to be answered. So he's getting

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Speaker 1: the hot butt nomination from me. That's very that's oh

561
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: my god. I don't hope that that sounds so wrong

562
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: and terrible imagery is so I don't accept it. Uh

563
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: has the back of multimillionaires coaches who are about it's

564
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: not about the sentimentality, it's just the wording and and

565
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: their butts, none of it. None if it's good. Chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly is creating the warmth though on some level. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Ian Rappaport reported that, I know that Ian

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Speaker 1: Repport reported that there's, you know, possibility of a trade

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Speaker 1: or a move to Tennessee that I think there'd be

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00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: some interest from chip Kelly's side. Maybe the tet Titans

571
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: would be interested too. This is one of your pet

572
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: peeves over the years, isn't it. The coaches can publicly

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Speaker 1: say that they have no interest in jobs, well, behind

574
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Speaker 1: the scene, their camp is working all of the angles

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Speaker 1: to see what they can get, especially because the second

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Speaker 1: best option I think for chip Kelly has to stay

577
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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. I really doubt that he would quit or

578
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Speaker 1: try to leave, and I don't think they would fire

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Speaker 1: him then, I mean, unless it's like four and twelve

580
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: that that's the hard part of saying it. I would

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Speaker 1: love to have a camp operating behind the scenes from

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Speaker 1: my best interest sessler camp. I wonder about that though

583
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: with Howie Roseman, there almost as like a safety net

584
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: type deal. Safety net for like, if if chip Kelly

585
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 1: was to be fired, if he's like he did do that,

586
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: then he had I mean him and how we have

587
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: had a long relationship Jeffrey LORI, so why is he

588
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: still there in this very limited capath. I think they

589
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: have him in like a satellite campus in the Pocono Mountains,

590
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: that he is internet a body. I suspect there's there's

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Speaker 1: a Howie Roseman camp, and I suspect how He Roseman

592
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: camp and that and the Chips Kelly Camp. I don't

593
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Speaker 1: think their their buddy. Howie was one of the best

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Speaker 1: Wikipedia pages in there. Yeah, I will check that out.

595
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Speaker 1: All right, West, you're up, let's talk about some hot

596
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: But Mike Patton, come on. I know that Jimmy Haslim

597
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: has said he doesn't want to blow this thing up.

598
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: But Mike Patton two and fourteen, since he started out

599
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: seven and four or you watched that Browns defense. They

600
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: don't stop the run, They can't get pressure on an injury,

601
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: ravage raven of offensive line. They let people run free

602
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: in the secondary. They missed tackles. He was hired because

603
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: he's a defensive mind. They draft three first round picks

604
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: on defense three years in a row. You know, granted

605
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: Ray Farmers over his head as a GM. But Mike

606
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: Pattens had to say in drafting these players specifically Justin

607
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Gilbert because he wanted that position for his scheme. And

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Speaker 1: Justin Gilbert, I mean apparently he doesn't even want to

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Speaker 1: play in the NFL. He doesn't want it badly enough. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: This team has no no hope. If you're a Browns,

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00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: Van Marcus said this, who are the young players? You're

612
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: hanging your hat on your two best offensive players right now,

613
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Travis Benjamin and Gary Barnege are free agents. There's nobody

614
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: to build around on defense because your best players are

615
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: in their twilight years. There's no hope. If they can't

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Speaker 1: win in December or at least highlights some young players

617
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: to give some hope, he's got to go. I think

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Speaker 1: one of the two goes. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: pattent though, yeah. I think it's hard to cipher what

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Speaker 1: of all the chaos happening in that organization, what it

621
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: will amount to by the end. But someone is going,

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Speaker 1: and Petton has not made a strong case for himself.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more on the Petton trainer. I

624
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: like him as a person. I think he also is

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00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: They've had so many dull individuals in non motivators, but

626
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: now I got a question if he's motivating anyone because

627
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: their defense, as you said, they're staple all season long,

628
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: out of position. They just look like they're not well coached.

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Speaker 1: The two thousand, uh fourteen Browns draft classes now making

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Speaker 1: the two thousand twelve first round class look like Cowboys

631
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Speaker 1: eighty nine draft classes. It's hard to do that too.

632
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Speaker 1: That's quite an achievement that they've pulled off here. Is

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Speaker 1: it an achievement? I don't know if that's the word.

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Speaker 1: I know, probably not, uh wolf woman, Yes, alright, So

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, I'm gonna go out here sort of on

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Speaker 1: a limit. There were a lot of reports earlier in

637
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Speaker 1: the season that he was out maybe looking for other opportunities,

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00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: and that the organization would let him walk. But now

639
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: at this point, the Saints are four and seven, they're

640
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: going to have probably be back to back losing seasons.

641
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: And then you look at his record since since Sean

642
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: Payton has been back, he's twenty two and twenty one.

643
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: So why isn't his seat hotter than it is right now?

644
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Why aren't more people talking about him? I mean they

645
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: didn't even they got rid of Rob Bryan, but then

646
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: this week it was the offense that was the problem.

647
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: They didn't score a touchdown. That hasn't happened since like

648
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: two thousand five. You're saying you should have like a

649
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: scorching butt. I think it should be a little bit warmer,

650
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: a touch warmer. Well, the real crazy part of it

651
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: is that I think he's going to be the one

652
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: dictating these terms. Does he have that much power that

653
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: I don't know? Maybe he just has a great agent,

654
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: and maybe this is just his camp is great reporters speak.

655
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: He's got a great camp, very well set up, lots

656
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: of cheese and meats. I wouldn't go camping with Sean

657
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Payton the Howie Roseman camp for kids. There. There's a

658
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: line of thinking that Sean Payton is kind of the

659
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: big domino that's going to control this coaching market, and

660
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: that he's gonna get traded. Uh, he's got to the Dolphins,

661
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: get traded to a couple of teams that are vuying

662
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: for him, and that will kind of kick start the

663
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: whole thing. That's a line of thinking. I know that, Greg,

664
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: it sounds like you've been speaking to people in the

665
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: know behind the scenes. We're gonna have a coaching hot seat.

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00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: Update article on Wednesday, Connor and I both oh, he said,

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00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: he said, perhaps, Well, he's kind of doing the guys

668
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: who could get jobs. I'm doing the hot seat. It's

669
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: really a nice collaboration bringing out your strengths. You and Connor.

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00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: Thank you West. What does that mean is? What is that?

671
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Was that real? Well? Greg loves coaching news and he's

672
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: kind of he's more plugged in than he lets on.

673
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: Its true and Connors are intrepid reporter behind the scenes.

674
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: The other thing, like one of Greg's like sneaky um

675
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: almost freakish things, is like tiebreakers and things of that schedule.

676
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: Stuff like there's just as a whole department of brain

677
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: like scheduled. Greg's brain knows every tiebreaker scenario possible in December.

678
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's amazing. I'll take it. My wife

679
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: wishes I remember to anything that tells me to do

680
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: about my children. But this is more important. Okay, uh,

681
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I will throw out there. Listen, it is time we

682
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: This is not gonna be surprised to anyone that listens

683
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: to the show. Jeff Fisher, he's got to have a

684
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: butt on fire, like practically melting melted butt for Jeff

685
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Fisher because this guy is if listen, if you're a

686
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: franchise that you're really locked into winning seven games every season,

687
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: and Jeff Fisher is your guy. But at a certain point,

688
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: you know enough of all the talk the bluster in

689
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: the offseason about how you've built this nucleus and you're

690
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: ready to take off. If you're still going seven and

691
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: nine every year, I don't think I want you in

692
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: my in my building. And I have to say, like

693
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: Connor or wrote a piece, listen, listen, Wow, you might

694
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: want you to kiss that pot. But the way he

695
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: was talking this week, I kissing no. But um I

696
00:35:54,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Sydney will attest that like you. That's the that's the

697
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: like the hardest I laughed in a long time when

698
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Sidney played me the drop of the guy screaming, it

699
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: just it just connected with me for some reason. Um

700
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, Fisher has not had a winning season

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00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: since two thousand eight in Tennessee. Um, he's just a

702
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: guy that you know, he's more what does the what

703
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: do you say? Sometimes West it's he he's got the name,

704
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: but not the game. I mean, that's where Jeff Fisher

705
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: is that two thousand fifteen, But don't you I mean

706
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of the plot from major league

707
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: going on here, right, isn't he allowed to be bad

708
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: at football just so they can leave St. Louis and

709
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: come to l A. But that's that whole thing again, like, oh,

710
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: because you're saying you don't want the city to get

711
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: but the city is already fighting for the Rams. It

712
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: sounds like the owner just doesn't care anyway, which there

713
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: is some I would not go to any detail on

714
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: what it's going on with any owner in the NFL,

715
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: but there could be a major league plot here. Smartly

716
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: played West, thank you West, looking to remain employed throughout

717
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: the next decade or agad. Yes, they seem to love

718
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: Fisher for whatever reason. He should. I agree he should.

719
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: He's a charismatic guy, should be hot, and yet I

720
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: sort of I would be surprised if anything happened with him,

721
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: even though on paper it makes sense. All right, Greg,

722
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: how about you talk some hot But I'm gonna go

723
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: uh with the most No, I don't want to even

724
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: it's not about moral it's not about no fire. Please,

725
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: don't mention any buttocks, please. It's just if I was

726
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: listening every time I heard that in relation to like

727
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher, and Pagana. I would cringe, So I don't

728
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: want to contribute to this whole Hot took his situation.

729
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't follow. Why would you cringe? I

730
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: don't know, just the whole, the whole IDEA sound bite

731
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: shows up two days for the first time in the

732
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: history of this podcast. Yeah, check Pagan, I was the

733
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: guy I'm going to talk about. It's fascinating cut cut

734
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: sound effects. Greg. It's very serious about this topic, very

735
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: solemn topic. It deserves spect and everybody. Why don't we

736
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: all just move out of the way, Greg, go ahead,

737
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: thank you. Chuck Bogano, his seventeen assistant coaches, their families,

738
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: the wives, some of them with special needs. Um, they're

739
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: in trouble in Indianapolis and we should take it seriously. No, I,

740
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: I wait, but now this sounds. I have been fascinated

741
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: by this because they have won every year that they's

742
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: been there. And it's an owner, it's a GM, and

743
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: it's a coach, and they all seem to have different camps,

744
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: and maybe the owner in the GM, their camps are

745
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: situated a little closer together. But that here we are again.

746
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: The Colts have won a lot of games where they've

747
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: been down ten points, they're playing better late in the season.

748
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: You're telling me, if they make a run, get to

749
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: ten and six win a playoff game, then you're gonna

750
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: fire Chuck Bugano. To me, that's really fascinated. But it

751
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: sounds like that's the direction that would be going. Is

752
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: this year's John Fox more camps than the Borsch Belt

753
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: in summertimes? Come on, lest loves the old Busch Belt

754
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: shows and that see it's even hotter too with the

755
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: Texans doing as well as they're doing too. Yeah, that's true,

756
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: but that's one of those that's one of those studies

757
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: when you said it like the the issues going on

758
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and it's not so much behind the

759
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: scenes at this point is could just tear it apart.

760
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: It seems like, can you go another year with this?

761
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: With this situation in Indianapolis, it seems crazy, But it

762
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: also seems crazy that if they keep rallying and playing well,

763
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 1: that that you get rid of the coach. That owner

764
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: is going to clean house if they bomb out in

765
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: the playoffs or stumble and don't make it. Right, if

766
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: they don't make it, there's no way he's gone. But

767
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: I just wonder if I see I can see they

768
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: win a wild card game and you know they losing

769
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: Fox Burst and they Okay, I don't know. All right,

770
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: Well that was I was handled very well, Greg, with grace.

771
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: Now I think we're gonna have to take out some

772
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: of that. Well. I I would invite uh, you know,

773
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: four or five NFL head coaches to get together and

774
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: do a show about our employment futures. I wouldn't be

775
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: offended by that. They're more than welcome to I'm on

776
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: board with that. You're saying that some of us in

777
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: this room might have a hot but yeah, well, Greg,

778
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: you would have knowledge about at least the three men

779
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: in the room. Colleen, I don't know. Maybe we could

780
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: talk to your superior or get him in here. You

781
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: can talk to my camp, Okay, I'll talk to your camp,

782
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: the Howie Rosemond camp for underprivileged teens. I like the idea, alright,

783
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: that is coaches on the hot seat, a k A

784
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: hot butts. I don't understand why you get so upset

785
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: about that. You're saying it's not showing respect to guys

786
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: that have Actually, I'm not really that upset about the

787
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: lack of respect it's just the word hot butts over

788
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: and over everyone, but that would be everyone fair enough?

789
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: All right, before we get Connor or on the line,

790
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: let's talk a little Thursday night football right now. This

791
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: is a matchup between the Green Bay Packers and Detroit Lions.

792
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Um I will I'm gonna ask a similar question because

793
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: we didn't really get a chance to get into it

794
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: on an NFL network it that hopefully will run later

795
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: this week, because the Green Bay Packers start out six

796
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: and oh of course are now seven and four of

797
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: lost four and five. And the Lines, meanwhile, are now

798
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: four and seven after a one and seven start, So

799
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: two teams going in different directions. Uh, Colleen, So I'll

800
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: ask you this, would this even be considered an upset

801
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: in your mind if the Lines won this game in Detroit? Now,

802
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: I feel like they're on a streak right now, and

803
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: really I think I'm still reeling from what I saw

804
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving what they did to the Eagles, and that's

805
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: more on the Eagles than than the Lions at this point.

806
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: But I think that they've hit something and they've sort

807
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: of figured out a little bit what was going wrong before.

808
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: But Calvin Johnson, he's gotten going again. He had three

809
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: touchdowns last week. Theoretic, I mean they were able to

810
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: run the ball because the Eagles couldn't stop them. Ziggyanza though,

811
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: he's been insane, so I would not be that surprise

812
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: based on two the way that the Packers have been

813
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: sort of reeling. What do you think, Greg, I think

814
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: the Packers are the favorites. I think it would be

815
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: an upset if the Lions won because the last five

816
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: years matter more to me than the last three weeks.

817
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: But there's no denying that the Lions are playing better

818
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: than the Packers right now. I mean their their performance

819
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: on on Thursday was exceptional. I know, Wes, you were

820
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: impressed with how well Matthew Stafford played, but you you

821
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: mentioned Ansa. I mean Antsa took over the game the

822
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: week before for the Lions, the Raiders game. He won

823
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: them that game. Then last week he has three and

824
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: a half sacks, two tackles for loss. So he's playing

825
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: exceptional in Jim Bob cooer Old Coots is getting theoretical

826
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: like he is finding the matchups that you're looking for. Yeah,

827
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: he's getting the whole offense involved, specifically Calvin Johnson, who

828
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: was an afterthought with Joe Lombardi. But since this bye week,

829
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Speaker 1: I mean Stafford. He's coming off the best passer rating

830
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Speaker 1: of his entire career in the Thanksgiving Day game, and

831
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: I thought was the best game he's played since two

832
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: thousand eleven, when he three for five thousand yards and

833
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: forty one tds. Not just the passing, but playing with

834
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: confidence in a competitive fire that I haven't seen out

835
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: of him in a few years. Well, I mean, I'm

836
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: not gonna get overly excited about the Lions doing what

837
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: they did against the Eagles defense, which has given up

838
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: ninety points in two weeks. Granted they scored forty five

839
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: of those points. I think the Lions at this point

840
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: are doing what we thought they would do coming into

841
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: the season. There, simply performing the way that we wrote

842
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: about them all offseason. You've got endless weapons and they're

843
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: finally actually winning some games. I'm not gonna sell the

844
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: Packers down the river based on an ugly month. And

845
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: I understand that Aaron Rodgers probably looked as bad in

846
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: that last game as he had in a long time.

847
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, the Packers are telling us this

848
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: is what we are over the past month. I just's

849
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: who they are. I think in the last month, though,

850
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: you got Eddie Lacy back, he looked good, He's looked healthy,

851
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: he's running. Dante Adams just having one of the least

852
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: efficient wide receiver seasons in the last two decades. Well,

853
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: that's fine. I guess has been held catchless in two

854
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: of the past three weeks, and was also the issue

855
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: with the Raiders offense last year. He's too slow, Randall

856
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: cops dropping everything. This offense just isn't very good right now.

857
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: And that's fair. But if I want to trust one

858
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: team to go turn it around and drop forty points

859
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know what, you can all talk

860
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: about what happened over the last month. We're going to

861
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: get it right and be fine by January, I will

862
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: choose Green Bay over the Detroit Lions, and I'll be

863
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: happy to be wrong. You know, it's crazy too, And

864
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: this is more a big picture NFC conversation. While we

865
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: talked about it is great, this is Green Bay. Maybe

866
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: they're just this team that's a little up and down

867
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: and not nearly as explosive as they thought they were

868
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: gonna be. Look at the Carolina Panthers, who, um, you know,

869
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: undefeated as we know. But you have the Packers now

870
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: that seem to be not nearly as good as they

871
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: were last year. Seattle, we're seeing, even though they're coming

872
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: off a nice win on Sunday, they seemed to be

873
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: a bit compromised, and when compared to next last season,

874
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: the Panthers might have a way more wide open path

875
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: than we realized in January. Certainly a month ago, we

876
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: would have never thought that. Well. Packers and Seahawks were

877
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: by far our top two teams in our power poll

878
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: to start the year. There was a big golf really

879
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: between those two teams and the rest of the pack

880
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: This is a huge game, I think for the Packers.

881
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: If they lose this game, and you said the lines

882
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: are doing what we expected going to the season, I

883
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: never expected them to win in Lambeau. They haven't done

884
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: that fine. I'm talking about their players actually showing up,

885
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: which he didn't for two plus and they're finishing out

886
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: games on offense by possessing the ball. Even though they

887
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: didn't put up huge numbers in Green Bay. I was

888
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: really impressed how they finished that game and finished the

889
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Raiders game. If the Packers lose this then they're in

890
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: another category they're in the are we going to make

891
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Category? And you know that that's basically where

892
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: they'll be, which is to be incredible. It's a crazy

893
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: thing for the Packers. If the Lions want to win

894
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: this game, though, too, they have to stop the run

895
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: the way that you mentioned Dan Eddie Lacey, he's back.

896
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: He's had over two rushing yards I think the last

897
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: two weeks. But the last time they played Eddie Lacey

898
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: wasn't in there, so they limited them. So they need

899
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 1: stuff the run. Let's go around the horn. Your pick

900
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: and final score? Mark Seiler, Green Bay, Detroit, twenty four.

901
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm going Lions here, wolf Are. I just

902
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: think they're playing it right now. The way they're the

903
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: way they're composed as a team, I think they're they're better. Uh,

904
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: let's see, I'm gonna go Lions. I will go Wow.

905
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Two picks for the Lions. I will go Packers. I

906
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: think the Packers will win. Do you guys do you

907
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: think waved off? Why not? What? No? Picks don't matter?

908
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean. I just wanted to

909
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: make it a close car. I just want the podcast

910
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: listeners that haven't didn't see it to know that Greg

911
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: had a dismissive hand. Well, because the entire show, no

912
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: I was I was trying to get to my next thing,

913
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: where should turn on butts? And now you're turning on

914
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: picks yet again? Do you think the Lions if they

915
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: do win this game one, let's presume they do in

916
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: this game, could they run the table here and make

917
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs? They're at Rams at sts home to the

918
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: forty niners at Bears. They have to get past the Packers. Know,

919
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna calmed down, we're talking. They're gonna end the

920
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: season on an eight game winning streak. They s one

921
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: and seven. I know what, they're a different team now

922
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: than they were. Then you want to talk major league.

923
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: Jim called has basically been fired. He brings in Jim,

924
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: Bob Cooner, Coots. You know Martha Ford. Sorry, Martha, you

925
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: can't fire us. You fired everyone else in the company.

926
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna win eight straight games and we're not gonna

927
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: let you to me. The big thing is the Packers

928
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: game but one. If they beat the Packers, then I

929
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: would consider it, because they would they should be favored

930
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: in the final four remaining games. M this is a

931
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: good it's a good Thursday night game for Jim and Phil.

932
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: Don't forget Tracy. Tracy announcers down on the side. I

933
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: do love the announcers. Tariko had such a great game yesterday.

934
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: What I do? I love to Rico so much. Um.

935
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: I always bogged down the podcast by talking about the announcers,

936
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: but they're just they're a major part of the experience.

937
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: It is great and Monday Night Football is the one

938
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: I watched really the most terms of the announcers. Gruden went.

939
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: He's so great because he went from being apoplectic and

940
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: depressed when Manzelle wasn't in and Austin Davis wasn't successful

941
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: as first drive to just elated and couldn't have loved

942
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: football anymore. Like by the end of the game, Like

943
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: by the time Austin, they were so excited. Yeah, did

944
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: you see them. It looked like Bruden was out of

945
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: breath at that point. It loves it. That's what you want,

946
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. All right, before we go,

947
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: it is time to Uh. I believe Sydney. We have

948
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: him on the line right now. Uh. He is a

949
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: man that works for around the NFL and NFL dot

950
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: Com he's our East Coast correspondent based in a haunted mansion. Uh.

951
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: In fact, looking up on Wikipedia. Uh. In New Jersey,

952
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: he is Connor. Or what's up, buddy? What's going on?

953
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: Everybody there? He is. It's good to hear Connor's voice again,

954
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: isn't it. Oh? Yeah? Oh? Nice? Hey Connor? Hey, what's

955
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: going on? Wow? You buddy? All right? So it this

956
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: time with Connor on the line. Uh. Here's the thing

957
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: about Connor. Despite the fact that he's seven uh and

958
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: should be, you know, living the high life at clubs

959
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: and bars and you know, meeting different women, here's the

960
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: truth of them. He's engaged to be married to a

961
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: wonderful woman I've yet to meet, but by by all

962
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: indications on social media, she's great. Uh. He has a

963
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: home and now, f you, he's not renting. He bought

964
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: the son of a and he's got mortgage payments, and

965
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: he's got landscaping and yard work and mow and the

966
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: lawn to do. Uh. And and he's the only one

967
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: in the around the NFL family uh that has any ownership.

968
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Said don't. But it's in Philadelphia, I don't. You don't

969
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: live in it, So that doesn't count. Okay, that's for

970
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: another podcast. But here's the thing. You take homeownership, you

971
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: take being engaged. You take the idea that I'm twenty seven,

972
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: Am I making the right life decisions right now? Uh?

973
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: And then you add in I'm writing for the NFL.

974
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: He's got there's a lot of stress and if he

975
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: doesn't get it out, he explodes. And that's why we

976
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: bring him on the podcast for a segment we like

977
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: to call are you kidding me? All right? Connor? What's

978
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: on your mind today? Dan? Uh? As the holidays are

979
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: fast approaching. Uh. Websites will offer people suggestions what to

980
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: get your significant others, and I am here too to

981
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: just beg everybody to stop suggesting to get your significant

982
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: other Seinfeld box sets on DVD. The show is not funny, Wow,

983
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: one of the most overrated shows. Watch Fraser instead. All right,

984
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: dig on that, Connor. Alright, So I always think of

985
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Seinfeld is kind of like the show that like people

986
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: that don't have access to other forms of entertainment and like,

987
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: you know how your grandparents kind of talk about like

988
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 1: like the Lawrence Welk Hour is like this hilarious show.

989
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: Well it wasn't. It was just like the only channel.

990
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: So that's what that's what made it so good. So

991
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: you're saying that Seinfeld as a phenomenon was a benefit

992
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: of the fact that there wasn't nearly as many options

993
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: as in the digital world that we know today that end.

994
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: I actually did some research, and I feel like I

995
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: can basically boil down every plot into like four things

996
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: that that I've kind of noticed over the stretch of

997
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: the series. Wow, it is so crude. There's no there's

998
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: no reason to think the show should be seen as genius.

999
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's hear him. Alright. So my basic understanding

1000
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: of the show is that it starts and then uh,

1001
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: the large racist man slides into Jerry's apartment and says

1002
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: something crazy, and then keep going and then uh, George

1003
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: just like yelled uncontrollably like throughout the show, and then

1004
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: like at some point a plot conflict arises that could

1005
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: be easily solved with a cell phone, and then it

1006
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: in so well we've heard I have heard that before,

1007
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: the idea that Seinfeld, as you know, the plots would

1008
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: be destroyed if there were cell phones involved. But listen,

1009
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: you that's what it was like back then. And I

1010
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: will say right now, Connor, let's open this up a

1011
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: little bit that I disagree entirely. I think Seinfeld is

1012
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: one of the great UH sitcom's ever and it was

1013
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: original and and funny, and it holds up today when

1014
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: you watch episodes. How do you like that? Stick that

1015
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: in your pipe and smoking? I'll counter by saying the

1016
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: only thing worse than Seinfeld is the the moments where

1017
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: like sportswriters on Twitter will make Seinfeld references that are

1018
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: totally unrelated to the moment, like if Will Hill returns

1019
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: a kick for a touchdown, they'll be like, oh, it's

1020
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: like that time Jerry and Alwayne went to a pizza

1021
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: place but they didn't have pepperoni. How funny was that? Obligatory?

1022
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: Mike Florio shot, I'm with Connor and Well and Dan,

1023
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm sort of halfway in between. It wasn't when it

1024
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: was a great show, but it's two thousand and fifteen.

1025
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if it holds up as well. And

1026
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think a box set of DVDs if

1027
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: anything anyone wants to get in the year two thousand

1028
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: and fifteen. Bad president. So I have a confession to

1029
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: make here. I made a Seinfeld reference last night during

1030
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: the game. Woh, this is awkward. What was what it was?

1031
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: George Um and he was looking surprised in a gift

1032
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: and it was the Rams watching Austin Davis. Okay, that's fine.

1033
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. It's a beloved part of American

1034
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: pop culture. Like Jeff Fish. Jeff Fish would be like,

1035
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: exactly went for it. We do need to calm down

1036
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: in a with the with the Jeff's, let's talk about

1037
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: where is this storehouse of Jeff's that all fantasy football

1038
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: writers have access. Well, they're very easily access. It's gif

1039
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: dot com. It's a secret. Yeah, well colle just gave

1040
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: it up, so okay, insummation. Connor Or has stated that

1041
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: Seinfeld is an overrated property in terms of entertainment and

1042
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: the worst and West just through his pain and anger.

1043
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: Uh And I'm saying, and I'm called by this, Stanton,

1044
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm not about to debate the merits of Seinfeld. But

1045
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: some millennial come lately right back at you, Mr homeowner,

1046
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: it's about me. Well, I'm the same age as West,

1047
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: and I'll say I like Seinfeld a ton back in

1048
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: but I watch it now and it's depressing. I would

1049
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: never want a box of Seinfeld DVDs showing up on

1050
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: my door. Ever, do you feel the same way about

1051
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: Curb your enthusiasm? No, Curbs, I like ten times better

1052
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: than signed. Curb is genius, where I get is amazing.

1053
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Speaker 1: But as you know, he should have been in Seinfeld

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Speaker 1: then I would have liked it all right, And I

1055
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: guess you only have one one more question or one

1056
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: more thing to say, or are you kidding me? Well,

1057
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: there there he said it all. I mean, he did it.

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Speaker 1: He came in and he just dropped the mic right

1059
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: on Jerry Seinfeld's legacy. So that's it. Connor eviscerated one

1060
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: of the wealthiest entertainers of the last hundred years. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'll give Connor credit. He has not been on the

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Speaker 1: show in a month or so, and he's his targets.

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Speaker 1: He's he's taking a shot at a big target. Jerry

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Speaker 1: Seinfeld is an icon. So I understand him. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree, but I also understand what this exercise

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Speaker 1: ultimately it is. It's not ultimately is it's not this

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Speaker 1: is what Connor is right about. It's like what makes

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Speaker 1: Connor gets things off his chest and allows him to

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Speaker 1: continue to stop looking for consensus. Well, this sets a

1070
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Speaker 1: really high bar though, like you have to go after

1071
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: big time people from now on, like who's next? It's

1072
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: a bold stand hope. Yeah, I got to be careful

1073
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Speaker 1: with this logical next step from Seinfeld. There are many

1074
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Speaker 1: spots above them. As much as I have a fondness

1075
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Speaker 1: for sin Felt, also a fondness for or You Kidding Me?

1076
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: So they're battling each other right now. Yeah, certainly maybe

1077
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Speaker 1: the most controversial episode of or You Kidding Me? Yet.

1078
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Speaker 1: So we'll make sure to get Connor on down the line,

1079
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Speaker 1: and maybe I'll have a you know, we've talked about

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Speaker 1: friends in this space before. Come on as as a

1081
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Speaker 1: show that basically has a lot of um, you know, sides,

1082
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: and whether you think it's a great show or a

1083
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: bad show, where do you stand on that colleing? Um,

1084
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: I think it's an okay show every time I come

1085
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 1: home though, Full Houses on. Kristen is a full house person,

1086
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: So Christen your roommate. Yeah, different story for another podcast,

1087
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: another podcast that's the Kristen Podcast for listeners. Just to clarify,

1088
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: she is an adult, she is, and full house is

1089
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Speaker 1: all the time, all right, So there you go. We

1090
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Speaker 1: we covered it all and Colleen, you were there for

1091
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: all of it. It was great. Great to have you

1092
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: on the show. Uh, you know, we'll have to do

1093
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: it again. Yeah, I would love to come back. And

1094
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Speaker 1: well let's let's really it will hinge on how this

1095
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Speaker 1: NFL Now appearance goes. All right, I'm gonna go prepare

1096
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Speaker 1: for it. Okay, good, very important to do that. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back on our late Thursday show. We'll we'll preview

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Speaker 1: all of the week thirteen games. Mark it's coming. It's

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Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch of the regular season at

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Speaker 1: least um and also recap that Packers Lions game with

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Speaker 1: Greg and West. So that will be exciting. That's what's

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Speaker 1: coming up in the future on the Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Until then, this is Dan Hansens

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Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm, mail Man, The Wolf Woman,

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Speaker 1: The Boss, and Lacid behind the Glass until Thursday. Yeah

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Speaker 1: m M. I love sports. Sports are great. Team work

1107
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Speaker 1: is the hallmark of sports. This is my rap song.

1108
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Speaker 1: Team work is important to sports and also live. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope we're taping