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Speaker 2: John middlcough here in about ten minutes, former NFL Scout's
Speaker 2: going to join me. I haven't been on the air
Speaker 2: for a couple of days, so I don't want to
Speaker 2: get too melodramatic, but let me just explain what happened. Monday.
Speaker 2: I had some severe stomach pains. My wife had had
Speaker 2: a stomach virus and I was with her all weekend.
Speaker 2: She had it like late Saturday night. In the Sunday.
Speaker 2: I left Sunday afternoon, felt great, everything was fine. Hydrated
Speaker 2: on the flight. I don't drink on flights anymore. I
Speaker 2: used to. I think have a beer too, but I
Speaker 2: don't do that much anymore. I read an article on
Speaker 2: it not good. So I was hydrated, came home great,
Speaker 2: woke up, great night's sleep, got to work thirty minutes
Speaker 2: before the show. I had severe stomach pains. Ten minutes
Speaker 2: before the show, I asked the staff to get me
Speaker 2: ginger rail. I'd never done that before. I thought, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'll be a hero. I'll get through it.
Speaker 2: And the show started five six minutes in just melted down,
Speaker 2: got real fuzzy, very light headed. I thought I was
Speaker 2: going to throw up, and I didn't want to do
Speaker 2: that on TV. So I tossed to a break in
Speaker 2: the next hour pretty rough. Thank god Fox had a
Speaker 2: nurse in the facility, so blood pressure five or six times.
Speaker 2: Ended up crashing, taking a nap for about an hour
Speaker 2: at Fox. Eventually drove home and slept twelve and a
Speaker 2: half hours straight at one point, and I didn't want
Speaker 2: to get anybody sick with this thing, so I took
Speaker 2: Tuesday or today off, depending on when you listen to this.
Speaker 2: But I'm fine. A lot of you have had it
Speaker 2: worse than me. I actually got text by several broadcasters
Speaker 2: who had gone through this stomach virus over the last
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. It's just all through the Midwest on
Speaker 2: college campus as it's everywhere. So for me it was
Speaker 2: bastically a twenty four hour, thirty hour bug. Pretty intense, painful,
Speaker 2: but I'm fine. The issue is I wanted to spend
Speaker 2: an hour and a half just talking about Luca to
Speaker 2: the Lakers. First, I called somebody yesterday who has known
Speaker 2: Nico Harrison, the GM who made the deal, the Mavericks GM.
Speaker 2: He's known him for twenty two years, knew him when
Speaker 2: he was a long time Nike representative, big shot at Nike,
Speaker 2: And I said, you know, he made that trade deadline
Speaker 2: move last year I thought was smart. The Kyrie Irving
Speaker 2: thing was a big swing. He made some really really
Speaker 2: good moves. This team was in the finals. They weren't
Speaker 2: competitive against Boston, but they made it to the finals.
Speaker 2: What happened? And this person said, this came from above
Speaker 2: and beyond the general manager. And when you only get
Speaker 2: one first round pickback, that is somebody in ownership telling
Speaker 2: you just make the deal. Subjugate your ego, make the deal.
Speaker 2: And because I mean, no reasonable person who's smart enough
Speaker 2: to make the Kyrie Irving deal work and the trade
Speaker 2: deadline deal work last year is going to give away
Speaker 2: Luca for one draft pick and thirty one year old
Speaker 2: thirty two year old Anthony Davis. This just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: I said, if you'd have given away Anthony Davis three
Speaker 2: first round picks, maybe Austin Reeves, then I think you
Speaker 2: can make an argument Anthony Davis and one first round
Speaker 2: pick is not good enough, not close, and Nico Harrison's
Speaker 2: too smart. The thing it is so that is pressure
Speaker 2: from upstairs. Is this the reason Mark Cuban sold? Is
Speaker 2: this privately the reason that Mark Cuban knew that he
Speaker 2: was going to have to make this move when he
Speaker 2: sold it a year ago, because I was told by
Speaker 2: somebody I trust, the different source, but somebody I trust
Speaker 2: that this is not something that just came up in
Speaker 2: the last month. They have been troubled, missed back to
Speaker 2: back training camps, or most of them hurt on Christmas,
Speaker 2: hasn't come back, not going to be back for a
Speaker 2: few days. You know, his defense is not good, and
Speaker 2: he's so ball centric that by the playoffs he can
Speaker 2: often look like an exhausted one tentional player scoring only.
Speaker 2: And the other thing you have to think about is
Speaker 2: this the supermax contracts. You know extensions. They're a percentage
Speaker 2: of the salary cap, and depending on your accolades and
Speaker 2: what you've accumulated as a player, MVPs, multiple All Stars,
Speaker 2: and Luca's been one of the fastest stars ever, like Lebron.
Speaker 2: He's top five player instantly in the league second year.
Speaker 2: So they were looking down the barrel the new owner
Speaker 2: at seventy plus million dollars annually. Well, it's one thing
Speaker 2: if the super max was thirty million, but when you
Speaker 2: have to pay somebody three hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed. Okay,
Speaker 2: seventy plus million annually. You start to consider everything, defense, conditioning.
Speaker 2: Are you willing to do little things off the floor?
Speaker 2: Are you totally focused in the community. I mean again,
Speaker 2: it's just like the rest of us in life. If
Speaker 2: I was making thirty million dollars a year, fifty million
Speaker 2: dollars a year in any business, they're considering everything. You're
Speaker 2: working holidays, You're never turning the phone off. I remember
Speaker 2: when I was at the other place ESPN George Bodenheimer,
Speaker 2: who I struck up a friendship with. Didn't see him
Speaker 2: a lot, but when I did, he was a very
Speaker 2: open guy, and I was just talking once about like,
Speaker 2: you know, you ever get a vacation, and you know
Speaker 2: his takeaway was sure, but the phone's never off, Like
Speaker 2: that's part of the deal. That's being a president, that's
Speaker 2: being a top fifty CEO in the country. When you
Speaker 2: start making you know, double annually, what you know the
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the NFL can make or in that stratosphere,
Speaker 2: seventy five million dollars a year, that's more than Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes is going to make annually. Everything counts, and he's
Speaker 2: a bad defensive player, increasingly hurt three calf injuries in
Speaker 2: four years, mistraining camps, seems like he plays himself in shape,
Speaker 2: never ending barking at the referees doesn't necessarily make all
Speaker 2: teammates better. You're going to consider everything. If it was
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars a year, you just sign it, you
Speaker 2: deal with it. And I think that's just the reality
Speaker 2: is the more you make in life, the more that's guaranteed.
Speaker 2: The owners of whatever business you're in have to consider
Speaker 2: a lot, and one of it is And I said
Speaker 2: this years ago with Luca. I think he's a remarkable player.
Speaker 2: This is not something they did on a whim. The
Speaker 2: Nico Harrison knows that one first round picks not enough.
Speaker 2: Now pivoting to Luca as a Laker, I don't buy
Speaker 2: for a second that he and Lebron's games don't work.
Speaker 2: First of all, Lebron and d Wade, and Luca is
Speaker 2: a much better offensive player than d Wade, not nearly
Speaker 2: the defensive player, but he's a much more difficult player
Speaker 2: to prepare for. Luca's stop and go, herky jerky style
Speaker 2: is nearly impossible to defend when he's healthy. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying he doesn't play hurt. Murkkeith Morris acknowledging as
Speaker 2: a teammate, he does play hurt, but his style is
Speaker 2: you can't defend it. I remember his first year in
Speaker 2: the league when he averaged nineteen twenty points and Lebron
Speaker 2: James coming out and saying, like this guy is the
Speaker 2: real deal, Like this, this guy is going to be unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Next following season he was. And so Lebron playing in
Speaker 2: Miami with d Wade, their games didn't mesh. Neither was
Speaker 2: a great outside shooter. They were both just tremendous athletes
Speaker 2: who played with a relentless pace and physicality, and they
Speaker 2: made it work because d Wade and Lebron are very
Speaker 2: smart guys. You know, when Magic Johnson came to the Lakers,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody knows that Kareem was stoic and can
Speaker 2: be prickly, and Magic made it work. Great basketball players
Speaker 2: usually there's a there's a component to their basketball self
Speaker 2: awareness and their intelligence. They figure out how to make
Speaker 2: it work. Lebron's played with everybody from Matthew della Vandova
Speaker 2: to j R. Smith, the Kyrie Irving, Chris Bosh, Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2: I mean, and here's the thing. He worked with JR. Smith,
Speaker 2: kind of a scorely guy, with Kyrie Irving, high maintenance guy.
Speaker 2: He worked with Anthony Davis, who had a reputation as
Speaker 2: kind of a soft player who wasn't willing to play
Speaker 2: through injuries. He's worked with everybody. He's going to work
Speaker 2: with Luca, And you know, Lebron doesn't have a history
Speaker 2: of playing great off the ball. But you know, the
Speaker 2: truth with Luca is he's so unstoppable. Sometimes playing off
Speaker 2: the ball is just watching him hit a three, watching
Speaker 2: him score. So I think it will work. The Lakers,
Speaker 2: I do think, have a kind of a weird situation
Speaker 2: where Austin Reeves, Luca, and Lebron all kind of need
Speaker 2: the ball to be the most effective. So I could
Speaker 2: see the Lakers moving, you know, like an Austin Reeves
Speaker 2: and a pick to get a big Right now, they're
Speaker 2: going to be a bad defensive team with no size
Speaker 2: like Overnight. That's a bad defensive team. You can get
Speaker 2: away with that a little bit in a regular season.
Speaker 2: You can not get away with it in the postseason
Speaker 2: when you're playing the same team seven times. The good
Speaker 2: coaching staffs will eat you alive. It's different in the
Speaker 2: regular season. If you're playing a team comes into LA,
Speaker 2: they're tired, they played the night before. They don't get
Speaker 2: your greatest concentration or effort. In the playoffs, everybody's equally arrested.
Speaker 2: If you're bad defensively, you'll get eaten alive. I think
Speaker 2: the winner for the Lakers, beyond the fans and Lebron
Speaker 2: who you know, I would say Dalton connect is a winner.
Speaker 2: So Dalton Connect doesn't need the ball. He's a playmaker,
Speaker 2: he can create space, he can play off the ball.
Speaker 2: It'll be a Lebron Luca team. And I think Dalton
Speaker 2: Connett is a real winner here, the Tennessee rookie Tennessee
Speaker 2: volunteer rookie. I think he really fits into it. I
Speaker 2: don't know what you do with Austin Reeves. The fact
Speaker 2: that they didn't have to give away Austin Reeves is
Speaker 2: another reminder that Dallas was told to make this move.
Speaker 2: I mean again, if I've been in enough negotiations in
Speaker 2: my life to know that large companies have layers and
Speaker 2: layers and layers of attorneys and people to go through.
Speaker 2: Very rarely as an organization make a horrible trade. There's
Speaker 2: too many eyes and ears that see it and hear
Speaker 2: about it. This felt like pressure down Nico close to
Speaker 2: the deadline. Make something happen now. And you know the
Speaker 2: Lakers not only benefit from getting Luca but keeping Austin
Speaker 2: Reeves and a first round draft pick. That's insane. So
Speaker 2: the move doesn't make any sense at all. The Lakers
Speaker 2: obviously benefit. Mean, it's just interesting if you look, either
Speaker 2: through free agency or trades, the Lakers have gotten everybody
Speaker 2: from Wilt from the Sixers, Kareem from the Milwaukee Bucks
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy one, Kobe Bryant from Charlotte Shaq and
Speaker 2: Lebron as free agents, and now Luca in a trade.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just insane. I don't believe there's a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: And the reason I don't is why were the Nicks
Speaker 2: bad for twenty years? You know why is big market
Speaker 2: DC and big market Detroit and Atlanta and Philadelphia is underachieving.
Speaker 2: This was just this was a trade partner that Luca.
Speaker 2: They knew that they can find a trade partner because
Speaker 2: Luca is going to re sign. And you know, Dallas
Speaker 2: several years ago was interested in Anthony Davis so I'd
Speaker 2: be interested tod In Anthony Davis, I think I agree with
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley. I think for the short term, I think
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis and the Mavericks are going to be a handful.
Speaker 2: They could probably use another shot creator. Maybe that's Austin
Speaker 2: Reeves do another deal. But I think Dallas is going
Speaker 2: to be a handful. And I think that if the
Speaker 2: Lakers get a big in size in a rim defender,
Speaker 2: then they're going to be a handful as well. So
Speaker 2: I'm okay, thanks for asking, but I didn't go through
Speaker 2: anything that ninety nine percent of you haven't gone through
Speaker 2: in your lives. It's a bad stomach virus. It's all
Speaker 2: over the country, all over college campuses, and I'm fine.
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Speaker 2: All Right. John Middlecoff, the former NFL scout hired by
Speaker 2: Andy Reid, is already in New Orleans. I am leaving
Speaker 2: in the morning as we are doing this in the
Speaker 2: late afternoon on Tuesday. As I've overcome my very dramatic
Speaker 2: bailing on the show. We've already talked about that, and
Speaker 2: that's boring. Okay, this game comes down to a couple
Speaker 2: of things for me, So let's just do one Eagles
Speaker 2: Chiefs rant. Now we got a bunch of stuff to
Speaker 2: talk about. Is that Mahomes is seven for seven. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the greatest that I've ever done this. Breeze
Speaker 2: and Brady were about fifty percent. Mahomes is seven for
Speaker 2: seven on game time slash game winning drives in the playoffs. Okay,
Speaker 2: seven for seven. Vic Fangio, the Eagles defensive coordinator, is
Speaker 2: o for eight against Patrick Mahomes. So we know that
Speaker 2: coaching and quarterbacking largely decides these games. The Niners outplayed
Speaker 2: and had a better roster against the Chiefs years ago,
Speaker 2: and Garoppolo missed on a deep ball. I mean, we
Speaker 2: know that Patrick Mahomes. The Eagles had them in big
Speaker 2: trouble a couple of years ago, and Mahomes came up
Speaker 2: with a huge scramble. That was the difference in the game.
Speaker 2: We know this is going to be a coach, a
Speaker 2: Spags Fangio Reid Mahomes Hurts Nick Siriani game. And that's
Speaker 2: why I favor Kansas City. You know, it's interesting. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of fans think most quarterbacks are great
Speaker 2: in crisis. We know Lamar's not. We know early Peyton
Speaker 2: Manning wasn't. We know Elway was, but went a long
Speaker 2: time before he actually won the very end of his career.
Speaker 2: When you watch Mahomes as a former scout, what makes him?
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of guys move, a lot of
Speaker 2: guys are accurate. I mean, I could say that about
Speaker 2: Farvan Rodgers. He's perfect in these game time, game winning
Speaker 2: playoff drives as a scout. If you just watched him
Speaker 2: and you didn't know who he was playing for, like
Speaker 2: what's his secret sauce?
Speaker 1: You know? I was Actually there was an NFL player
Speaker 1: on my flight and we were delayed a long time
Speaker 1: and we were talking about him, and he was talking
Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. And
Speaker 1: when you blitz them in these big games, he kills you.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know in the regular season, but blitzes,
Speaker 1: think who he goes against every day in practice for
Speaker 1: the last six seven years. The best blitzing defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: in the history of the league. So he's very calm
Speaker 1: that way. Well, when you get pressure with just the
Speaker 1: front four, you know the h when they played Damiico
Speaker 1: Ryans in the Houston Texans and they have a good
Speaker 1: pass rush, they got two really good defensive ends. He
Speaker 1: can handle crisis when it's just four coming and it's
Speaker 1: his offensive line. Colin. It's not exactly like Tony Basselli
Speaker 1: and Larry Allen were blocking for him this year. So
Speaker 1: they were winning games off season long, playing in pretty
Speaker 1: chaotic situations. They were not an explosive offense. They could
Speaker 1: not really protect him. But he can protect himself. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if it goes back to you know,
Speaker 1: I had a front row seat for many years in
Speaker 1: the Bay Area of Clay and Steph. Those guys kind
Speaker 1: of grew up around it, and they were just a
Speaker 1: little more to him with the lights being the brightest
Speaker 1: because they had been that way since they were five
Speaker 1: six years old going to these arenas. And you have
Speaker 1: to wonder with Patrick Mahomes. I saw a picture a
Speaker 1: Rod holding him. You know, when Patrick was like five
Speaker 1: years old, Like Patrick's kind of used to these and listen,
Speaker 1: baseball when he was growing up was a pretty big deal.
Speaker 1: So his dad. You know a lot of people when
Speaker 1: you bring up mahomes to older people, they know him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that really is Yeah. So I think there's
Speaker 1: just a natural calmness. And then you know he's playing
Speaker 1: for I've been saying it for a while. The chubby.
Speaker 1: I used to call him the chubby Bill Walsh. But
Speaker 1: have you seen Coach Reed. He's eating healthy, he's slimmed down.
Speaker 2: You know what you brought up. Something that's really interesting
Speaker 2: for our listeners and our viewers to this is that
Speaker 2: I told somebody a couple of years ago, I said, man,
Speaker 2: this brought Bauers kid. Here's why I know he's going
Speaker 2: to be great because every day at Georgia practice, he's
Speaker 2: going up against first round corners and safeties. Every day
Speaker 2: is an NFL practice at Georgia. That's why you have
Speaker 2: to question. I mean, khalil Ma's been great out a Buffalo,
Speaker 2: but when Trey Lance comes out of a smaller school,
Speaker 2: or a player that comes out of a smaller university
Speaker 2: like the gend the running back for Boise state. Your
Speaker 2: takeaway is, Okay, maybe he has one big game against
Speaker 2: a good school, but what happens when you're on the
Speaker 2: road for a quarterback, or you're on the road and
Speaker 2: playing in front of eighty thousand against NFL people. So
Speaker 2: brock Bowers, by the time he got to the NFL,
Speaker 2: I mean, most of the defenses aren't as good as
Speaker 2: Georgia was his last year in college, and he was
Speaker 2: eating I mean even as a freshman at a Napa
Speaker 2: high school. I'm watching him, I'm like, this kid's just
Speaker 2: dominant in the SEC. Who you go against, Well, you
Speaker 2: mentioned something about Mahomes going up against spags, and I
Speaker 2: think it's a great point, don't We both probably acknowledge
Speaker 2: now that the reason Brady was so efficient and sharp
Speaker 2: against mixed coverages is because Belichick at practice. I mean,
Speaker 2: just think about that when you go when you're a
Speaker 2: great high school football player, and a lot of these
Speaker 2: great high school football players they transfer, Like in LA
Speaker 2: there's like four really well known high schools, Damatha, right,
Speaker 2: these kind of grade schools. Well, because you're dominating lesser competition.
Speaker 2: So then you go to practice and you go to
Speaker 2: Damatha or something, one of these top schools. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: Hoover and Alabama. Well, now you're competing every day against
Speaker 2: Division one players when you're seventeen eighteen nineteen, so you're
Speaker 2: ready to play at Georgia Alabama LSU when you come
Speaker 2: on as a freshman. And I think this is the
Speaker 2: unspoken part about Mahomes that you touched down touchdown. He
Speaker 2: has spags every day experimenting, and I think it sharpens
Speaker 2: his knife.
Speaker 1: Think about when Brady really popped, you know, I think
Speaker 1: Peyton Manny, he's compared to a lot. Their paths were
Speaker 1: very they weren't similar at all. I mean Peyton kind
Speaker 1: of by a second year was hitting the ground running
Speaker 1: and he carried that franchise for a long period of time.
Speaker 1: Brady for the first four or five years. Every day
Speaker 1: in practice, Mike Rabel, Teddy Bruski, Rodney Harrison, A Sante Samuel, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, think of all the good Richard Seymour. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what he really honed his g from two
Speaker 1: thousand and one to two thousand and six, and then
Speaker 1: he really popped, oh seven on when they brought it
Speaker 1: and he became Peyton Manning. I can carry the offense
Speaker 1: and carry the franchise, So it definitely matters. Why are
Speaker 1: physical teams physical? Well, because you want to go Why
Speaker 1: could Alabama always run it down people's throat? Well, they
Speaker 1: were going up against the best defense. Same with Kirby smart.
Speaker 1: Why are Jim Harbaughs offense is always able to run
Speaker 1: the ball and always tough? Well, look at his defense.
Speaker 1: I remember going to his practice against Vic Fangio and thinking, well,
Speaker 1: this offense. You know, with Alex and Kaepernick, they had
Speaker 1: some issues throwing the ball, but they always could run
Speaker 1: the ball. Why because in practice to run it on Patrick,
Speaker 1: Willis Navarro bowman, Justin Smith navarroal bowman and Olden Smith
Speaker 1: and all these guys, I mean, it's hard to get
Speaker 1: a yard. So the games are easy. And I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine the last couple of years of practice for
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Just can you imagine as over the next Like,
Speaker 1: one thing's pretty clear about Andy Reid. He will acquire
Speaker 1: better players moving forward, and they already they feel like
Speaker 1: they like Xavier Worthy a lot. Well, don't be shocked
Speaker 1: if you know Travis gonna retire. They'll add another tight end,
Speaker 1: They'll add a running back. He will have a second
Speaker 1: iteration of skill guys, and he will be on a
Speaker 1: whole nother level mentally because physically, I mean's thirty years old,
Speaker 1: he's in the prime of his physical life. So mentally,
Speaker 1: watch out you're getting. And that's what you've got Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning tom Brady's and that's been the difference of him
Speaker 1: in Josh and Lamar. I mean, you've been watching football
Speaker 1: longer than me, but Josh and Lamar two of the
Speaker 1: more pure talents in.
Speaker 2: The histeas league or no, no questions.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they've just run into a guy and
Speaker 1: a coaching staff that's kind of mastered their career.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, think about this. Mahomes didn't get more athletic,
Speaker 2: he didn't get a stronger arm. What has Mahomes done
Speaker 2: over the last two years. He's gotten much more efficient,
Speaker 2: much greater on my third down? Why Well, because he
Speaker 2: doesn't have the escape route. He doesn't have Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2: So Mahomes as this Chief's defense has been drafted and
Speaker 2: developed and has become a monster the last two to
Speaker 2: three years to practice. I mean when he came into
Speaker 2: the league, he had Tyreek Hill and the Chiefs defenses
Speaker 2: were okay. Now they're great and so I think I
Speaker 2: think practice matters, and I think that's you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think if you watched the Ohio State this year, and
Speaker 2: I want to pivot to that Ohio State, the Chip Kelly,
Speaker 2: we got a lot of things to talk about. We
Speaker 2: can come back to the super Bowl. But it was
Speaker 2: interesting if you watched the Ohio State, they were the
Speaker 2: most expensive team money could buy in college football, and
Speaker 2: again they practiced against each other and by the end
Speaker 2: of the year, they were just a really well oiled
Speaker 2: physical machine. And I think some of that comes back
Speaker 2: to facing each other. You know. It's funny. During Alabama's
Speaker 2: fifteen year dynasty, I only thought maybe one of their
Speaker 2: teams was one of the best I've ever seen. I
Speaker 2: thought it was the greatest overall dynasty, but I didn't
Speaker 2: think they had some of the best teams. I think
Speaker 2: the best SEC team I've ever seen is the Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow LSU team that I mean literally had like eight
Speaker 2: good pros. Now they didn't have as good a coach,
Speaker 2: but I thought that was the most talented team I'd
Speaker 2: ever seen out of the SEC was the LSU Joe
Speaker 2: Burrell team. And I thought the USC teams with Pete
Speaker 2: Carroll were all time stuff. I thought there were a
Speaker 2: couple of Miami Hurricane teams that I thought were all
Speaker 2: time stuff. I didn't think the Clemson teams were all
Speaker 2: time stuff or most of Saban's. I do think the
Speaker 2: Spurs historically were underrated because I think Mano Genobli's the
Speaker 2: best sixth man in league history. You had Tony Parker
Speaker 2: was a perennial All Star running the show. Tim Duncan
Speaker 2: was the great fundamental and one of the great coaches.
Speaker 2: I always thought those teams were better Bruce Bowen. They
Speaker 2: just had a lot of really smart, high IQ players
Speaker 2: in close games, but they never won back to back,
Speaker 2: so I didn't think they're one of the great teams.
Speaker 2: Shaq and Kobe. Yes, I don't think the Miami heatwore
Speaker 2: they were small. I mean, if you remember, it was
Speaker 2: like Joe l Anthony E, Donnis Haslin were they're bigs.
Speaker 2: Chris Bosh was, you know, pushed out to shoot, you know,
Speaker 2: corner threes. So not every team dynasty is great. New
Speaker 2: England's most talented teams had Randy Moss and they didn't
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. So I don't when I look
Speaker 2: at New England's all time teams. I think they're the
Speaker 2: best coach and quarterback. If the Chiefs won three in
Speaker 2: a row, where do we put them as an all
Speaker 2: time great team. So I grew up with the Steelers
Speaker 2: in the in the seventies where there was no mobility.
Speaker 2: They had like eight Hall of Famers. They were there
Speaker 2: forever they had like a three year run. You couldn't
Speaker 2: score on them. There were some Raider teams, the Kenny
Speaker 2: Stabler Raider teams that were insane. That just I mean,
Speaker 2: I can still name the players. It can go Cliff Branch.
Speaker 1: It was insane. I remember them.
Speaker 2: It's it's just from the Art Shells and Villa pianos
Speaker 2: and Matuzas and Cliff Branch and John jim Otto and
Speaker 2: Dave Casper and shit man. It was like every unit
Speaker 2: had a Hall of Famer. You don't get that now.
Speaker 2: I think the Niners and the Cowboys their last like
Speaker 2: those those Bill Watsh Joe Montana Niner teams were stacked.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson a couple of those Cowboy teams. Those are different.
Speaker 2: I kind of put the Patriots in New England. What's
Speaker 2: available with today's salary cap dynasty which is best coach,
Speaker 2: best quarterback, arguably on the opposite side of the head coach,
Speaker 2: best coordinator, a little undervalued in terms of roster composition, tremendous,
Speaker 2: circumstantially tremendous in the red zone, offense and defense. But
Speaker 2: I don't think the Chiefs, I think they're more entertaining
Speaker 2: than the Patriots. I don't consider them. I don't consider
Speaker 2: this one of the great teams.
Speaker 1: I've ever watched.
Speaker 2: If they win a third.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean from a roster standpoint, they wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: mean that the team that I kind of grew up
Speaker 1: on was more Steve Young. But in ninety four they
Speaker 1: signed Deon Sanders in the peak of his powers, and
Speaker 1: they somehow had a top ten pick, and they drafted
Speaker 1: Bryant Young, who was the rookie of the year. So
Speaker 1: they added Deon Sanders Bryan Young to Jerry Raiz, Steve Young,
Speaker 1: Brent Jones. It was an unfair team. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, Ken Norton, Erick Davis, like they were those
Speaker 1: individual nineties roster Cowboys and Niners. Even the FARV team
Speaker 1: with FARV in the peak of his powers, with Reggie White.
Speaker 1: I mean, so listen, what Andy's doing he's gonna go.
Speaker 1: If they win this, it's the greatest run I think
Speaker 1: of I've seen in my life. I mean, this would
Speaker 1: be their four super Bowl in what five years or
Speaker 1: six years, they've won three in a row. I don't
Speaker 1: think that ever happens again. And I think we throw
Speaker 1: that out a lot. Never gonna happen again, never gonna
Speaker 1: happen again. Like, I don't think that's ever happening again.
Speaker 1: If he wins this game, I mean, it's insane that
Speaker 1: he's even got to this point. I mean last year
Speaker 1: he was an underdog twice on the road at Buffalo
Speaker 1: and Lamar, two Hall of Fame quarterbacks and beat him both.
Speaker 1: And then the Niner team who was awesome last year,
Speaker 1: is like a defining moment for the era. I think
Speaker 1: winning those three straight games Buffalo, Baltimore and the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, Like he wins this game, that's awesome. It
Speaker 1: was more impressive. What they did last year was kind
Speaker 1: of to me, the icing on the cake and everything
Speaker 1: is just kind of cherries and sprinkles on top. Since
Speaker 1: like last year was an all timer, the ninety eight Bulls,
Speaker 1: who they literally did a documentary for, Like when you
Speaker 1: watch highlights of Michael moving around. You're like Google night
Speaker 1: or YouTube nineteen ninety one, Michael running around. It's not
Speaker 1: even close, but you get more credit because you have
Speaker 1: the build up. Tiger Woods won the US Open in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight with a torn acl and a
Speaker 1: broken lake like that wasn't the best version of them,
Speaker 1: but that adds to kind of the legend of sports,
Speaker 1: right Michael George Tom Brady coming back from twenty eight three, Right,
Speaker 1: Like you said, the teams were much more explosive. Now
Speaker 1: it is a team game, right, So in seven and
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, you could argue those teams were more explosive,
Speaker 1: but their team wasn't as good as some of the
Speaker 1: latter years, with the Attleman's, the mccordy's, the High Towers,
Speaker 1: the Cronx. That's what I would say about this Chiefs team.
Speaker 1: They are a complete unit. They're not the sexiest, they
Speaker 1: don't have Jerry Rice running out, they don't have you know,
Speaker 1: McDuffie's a good player. He's no one's gonna confuse him
Speaker 1: with you know, Deon Sanders or Darrell Reeves. But they
Speaker 1: are a championship unit. I think they've become kind of
Speaker 1: what Alabama's teams, not all of them were the same.
Speaker 1: But if you were gonna beat him in a big game,
Speaker 1: you better bring your a game because they had just
Speaker 1: the championship mojo, the championship medal. I just can't bet
Speaker 1: like this Eagles team is loaded. I mean, if Jalen
Speaker 1: just plays okay, which he's it's if you put Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes on this Eagles team, I think the Eagles be
Speaker 1: favored by a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I would take Philadelphia to blow him out.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's some numbers on Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 2: And this is another reason I liked Kansas City. When
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts doesn't face pressure, he's a top five quarterback
Speaker 2: in the league. When he does, he's like thirtieth. So
Speaker 2: when you get him to be pressured, well, Spags from
Speaker 2: the second, third, and fourth quarters this year creates top ten,
Speaker 2: top five, top six pressures in the league. So the
Speaker 2: key to the game is can Spags create pressure because
Speaker 2: on Jalen Hurts. If they can, they win the game.
Speaker 2: Because Jalen Hurts and Greg co Salzman saying that this
Speaker 2: to me all year, the film doesn't lie. He's a
Speaker 2: pretty average pocket passer. If you put pressure on him,
Speaker 2: he deteriorates very quickly.
Speaker 1: And aj wasn't reading the book on the sideline randomly.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's trying not to smash. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So in the end, I think it comes down to,
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm I know what Kansas City's going
Speaker 2: to try to do. They'll bring some surprises offensively and
Speaker 2: special teams. They're going to try to put pressure on
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. Meanwhile, Philadelphia can't you If you bring any
Speaker 2: sort of blitz package on Mahomes, he'll eat you alive.
Speaker 2: So you just have to hope you win one on
Speaker 2: one battles, which they're certainly capable of. But they do
Speaker 2: have rookie corners and rookie corners and big Scott's big spots,
Speaker 2: you know. Can I think Andy probably looks at Philadelphia's
Speaker 2: secondary and thinks, boy, these guys are talented, and boy
Speaker 2: these guys are really young. And I mean that that
Speaker 2: to me is Kansas City's game plan. Attack the young corners,
Speaker 2: make them earn their pay, give them, you know, multiple sets,
Speaker 2: throw things at them they have not seen practice, and
Speaker 2: catch them off guard.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing is that the Chiefs, or
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Eagles went healthy have the best offensive
Speaker 1: lind in the league. I mean, you know Lane Johnson's
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer My lat is one of the greatest
Speaker 1: seventh round Australian stories in the history of the league.
Speaker 1: But you know in that NFC Championship game, what happened
Speaker 1: They had two centers. I mean one guy's a guard
Speaker 1: who had to bump the center who are injured. One
Speaker 1: has a back and one has a knee. Now I
Speaker 1: would imagine they're both gonna try to play. I would
Speaker 1: say it's a fifty to fifty chance one of them.
Speaker 1: Just Rea, I mean, you're in the trenches against Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: What if all of a sudden Cam Jurgen's back tightens up,
Speaker 1: or Landon Dickerson's knee feels a little weird. That could
Speaker 1: get weird fast, and all of a sudden you've got
Speaker 1: a domino effect inside and then spagg just attacks. But
Speaker 1: the Eagles went healthy are equipped just with the size
Speaker 1: and how talented they are, and god her who's a
Speaker 1: really all around good tight end to in theory handle it.
Speaker 1: But Jalen is just you just never know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna get. You know, you saw Washington, which he had
Speaker 1: best game of the season. Whyh is not very good
Speaker 1: on defense. I mean, so it's just look at them
Speaker 1: against Green Bay, who is a solid defense, right. And
Speaker 1: the other thing is the Chiefs. I have a hard
Speaker 1: time seeing Saquon bust a couple forty to fifty er
Speaker 1: runs against them. They're the best tackling team in the league,
Speaker 1: like all eleven other guys. Most teams they're front seven
Speaker 1: tackles right their d linebackers. All the Chiefs dvs hit
Speaker 1: all of them. Is what the Niners have had over
Speaker 1: the Kyle Shanahan era. When your corners and your safeties
Speaker 1: all tackle like linebackers, you're pretty hard to play because
Speaker 1: while I'm not decapitating you John Lynch style nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 1: I'm still hitting you really really hard. And that's what
Speaker 1: the Chiefs do a really good job of. So to me,
Speaker 1: there's a physicality element, and that's in the post Tyreek
Speaker 1: Kill era because remember when they beat the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: their defense is fags. He just got there. The defense
Speaker 1: was kind of in question. It has become, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a new school defense because we don't play like
Speaker 1: we once did, but in terms of physicality, they are
Speaker 1: easily one of the more physical teams in the league.
Speaker 1: And to me, it's like, saque you're not doing anything
Speaker 1: on us. Jalen beat us, and in theory he should
Speaker 1: be able to beat him because he has aj Brown
Speaker 1: and Devonte Smith. I mean, the two guys make two
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. But it's just it. Jees probably feel
Speaker 1: pretty good that McDuffie can at least handle one of
Speaker 1: them right and just keep him in front of them,
Speaker 1: And then it's can the other guy make a lot
Speaker 1: of big plays? And Goddard the Chiefs have been a
Speaker 1: little susceptible over the middle of the field because I mean,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna have some openings in the defense. And
Speaker 1: Goddard is we don't talk about him like we do
Speaker 1: the Kelsey's the Kittles like he's pretty damn good. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd look for Goddard if you tell me
Speaker 1: the Eagles win. I think it's less likely that Saquon
Speaker 1: goes for like one hundred and fifty yards. I think
Speaker 1: it's more likely, like I see Dallas Goddard having one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards in a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Goddard and the McBride from Arizona are the two
Speaker 2: tight ends in the league that get overshadowed that are
Speaker 2: just fantastic players. They are wildly productive, and they're very
Speaker 2: good in big spots, big third downs and big spots.
Speaker 2: So chip Kelly gets six million dollars to go to
Speaker 2: the Raiders, and I've got to tell you, I don't
Speaker 2: mean to be a sucker, but Pete Carroll chip Kelly,
Speaker 2: if they get a quarterback, and I do believe that
Speaker 2: a Riley Leonard Kyle McCord in the second to third
Speaker 2: round could actually end up falling to good teams and
Speaker 2: actually being decent franchise quarterbacks. But I kind of looked
Speaker 2: at the Raiders and I have Max Crosby on my
Speaker 2: show Thursday at the Super Bowl, and I'm like, am
Speaker 2: I nuts to think that they're going to be viable
Speaker 2: next year if they get Shador Sanders and he can play.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have both their tackles to have their center.
Speaker 1: I got to push back here, Collin six million dollars,
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, I would walk into Howie Roseman's room right
Speaker 1: now and say I can't coach the Super Bowl till
Speaker 1: I make twenty I mean Chip Kelly to be six
Speaker 1: million dollars, and honestly, that just shows it wasn't dead
Speaker 1: set on leaving Ryan Day. He was making two and
Speaker 1: a half three million dollars at Ohio, say so, the
Speaker 1: highest paid coordinator as we know, Liam Cohen just got
Speaker 1: four and a half. He obviously became the head coach,
Speaker 1: but that was the going that was the highest paid
Speaker 1: non head coaching coordinator. It took six million dollars to convince.
Speaker 1: So clearly Chip had to be like truly bought to
Speaker 1: show up because they don't have a quarterback and Shadoor.
Speaker 1: You know, there are like physical limitations to you know,
Speaker 1: one thing Chip likes is a running quarterback or a
Speaker 1: mobile court. That's not really Shadoor. I think people think
Speaker 1: that because of Dion and Brock's a stud. But their skill, guys,
Speaker 1: you know, Jacobs is gone, devolo receiver. They got a
Speaker 1: long way to go. The other thing. I wonder and
Speaker 1: people just think I'm a Chip hater. I do not care. Honestly,
Speaker 1: Pete chip Kelly at this point in time, sixty years old,
Speaker 1: bit a ton of money like big ego. Pete obviously
Speaker 1: big well accomplished. That's kind of a unique It's one
Speaker 1: thing if they knew each other and worked kind of
Speaker 1: a unique setup here. You know, I thought Pete would,
Speaker 1: if not go back to the well, get kind of
Speaker 1: a younger guy that let's face it, Pete's gonna want
Speaker 1: to play defense and run the ball. Now in theory,
Speaker 1: you know, Chip likes to run the ball as well.
Speaker 1: This year he was kind of forced because their receivers
Speaker 1: were so good. But I just wonder the dynamics of
Speaker 1: those two guys. Look at Pete's offensive coordinators in the
Speaker 1: pros at least, there's a lot of Bevils, Schottenheimers, guys
Speaker 1: who were clearly not even close on Pete's level. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Chip is because he hasn't accomplished what
Speaker 1: Pete has, but just in terms of his name recognized,
Speaker 1: like he's pretty famous. So that's something to me, Like,
Speaker 1: I get it. They wanted to take a BIX. They
Speaker 1: interviewed him last year, remember with Antonio Pierce, and they
Speaker 1: didn't go. I just it's a lot of money. I
Speaker 1: think that's one of those way Chip Kelly is resetting
Speaker 1: the market. I thought that was kind of crazy because
Speaker 1: also It just shows that he didn't really want the job,
Speaker 1: but they made an offer so big he couldn't turn down. So, like,
Speaker 1: is his heart really in it? Did he want a
Speaker 1: Lebo house day? I think look at the defense as
Speaker 1: to he played the other thing with Jim Who do
Speaker 1: they lose to really badly this year? Michigan, Well, who's
Speaker 1: their coordinator? An NFL guy Week Martindale. Because physical defenses
Speaker 1: can slow down his offense historically has when he tries
Speaker 1: to run the ball, Well, he's going on because Jim Harball,
Speaker 1: who's always giving him trouble. Sean Payton's defense were the
Speaker 1: best in the league, and obviously Andy reeed. So it's
Speaker 1: that's a division for his offense that obviously has changed
Speaker 1: over time. He's not just gonna run it down people's throats, right,
Speaker 1: he didn't call it. I think he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: pretty big challenge. Sexy headline. I don't know. I got
Speaker 1: that one reflect and I like what they're doing. You know,
Speaker 1: spy Tech's a good higher. I get the Raiders a
Speaker 1: lot of credit. Pete Carroll real higher. This was just
Speaker 1: a little weird. It's a little little off the beaten path.
Speaker 1: I just sometimes those in the NFL, I think we
Speaker 1: all know don't always work.
Speaker 2: I talked about how obviously there was pressure down ownership
Speaker 2: to the GM at Dallas to trade Luca, otherwise you'd
Speaker 2: get far more than one great player in one draft pick.
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett says, I want out like Luca. He is
Speaker 2: a phenomenon once in a franchise talent. You don't get
Speaker 2: another Lawrence Taylor of the New York Giants, like that's one.
Speaker 2: You don't get another Miles Garrett with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2: He'll be the best pass rusher you'll ever have. He
Speaker 2: wants out. Who jumps out to you? Because Miles is
Speaker 2: a game changer. He is literally one of the five
Speaker 2: defensive players in the league that's just not blockable, like
Speaker 2: a Chris Jones who can move around, Max Crosby, TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt when he's healthy, Patrick Sir Tan, There's a handful
Speaker 2: of guys, they're just different. Who jumps out to you
Speaker 2: with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I even go for I think he's one of
Speaker 1: the most talented guys of the last twenty five years.
Speaker 1: You know, and you talk about Luca knock on Luca,
Speaker 1: which is kind of stupid. I mean, I've watched some
Speaker 1: fat and score fifty points, but he's out of shape.
Speaker 1: That is not a question with allows here. I mean,
Speaker 1: you remember that that video of him playing basketball, and
Speaker 1: this Brown's like, we got to pull it back. He
Speaker 1: looked like an NBA player. I did a little recon
Speaker 1: tried to compare him to what he would be. Like.
Speaker 1: You know, when Reggie White left the UH Eagles Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles to side with them Packers, he was thirty two
Speaker 1: years old. He was older. Now, part of that was
Speaker 1: the USFL, but he went on to have, I mean
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career for the Packers, right Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl every year. So if you look at it like that,
Speaker 1: a guy in great shape, he clearly takes his craft.
Speaker 1: Like I think they would get multiple first round picks,
Speaker 1: but you also got to give him probably one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars. So to me, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of NFC teams, Packers, Washington. I think the Lions have
Speaker 1: to sniff around a lot forty nine ers in theory,
Speaker 1: but like I I just think that they got some
Speaker 1: other needs in the sense of like can they just
Speaker 1: use their draft picks when they're paying all these Washington
Speaker 1: kind of complicated. Yeah to me, Washington, I think you
Speaker 1: think long and hard. But if you got to give
Speaker 1: two ones and a two and a player like he's
Speaker 1: going to get a historic call, even at twenty nine
Speaker 1: years old. I think it's difficult when you're just in
Speaker 1: year one, when you still need some of these picks,
Speaker 1: Like ideally you like to just buy players on the
Speaker 1: open market, but you're having a long conversation, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think the quarterback showed so much this year
Speaker 1: you'd have to highly entertain John.
Speaker 2: I think we have to consider this too. It is
Speaker 2: an abnormally weak draft. And I've said this, I would
Speaker 2: be much more willing to give a first round pickup
Speaker 2: this year than last year.
Speaker 1: And they're picking what twenty seven, you know, because they
Speaker 1: were in the NFC championship game, so it's not even
Speaker 1: a higher Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I just think, yeah, this is one of these years.
Speaker 2: I said, this is this, this is the year if
Speaker 2: you really need now. It's a good year for edge
Speaker 2: rushers in the draft. It's funny. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a bad draft. I just think it's a lot of
Speaker 2: second round players. I think there's about seven to eight
Speaker 2: great players and then it's just a bunch of second
Speaker 2: and early third round players for the next forty picks.
Speaker 2: But there is no Miles Garrett in this draft. So
Speaker 2: if you're a team that really wants to make a splash,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the Rams went out and they
Speaker 2: got a von Miller and look at the Eagles have
Speaker 2: done this. They go out and just buy players. I think,
Speaker 2: I mean that it's in the NBA. Every other draft
Speaker 2: is a week draft. It's very rare when you have
Speaker 2: these days, a really strong draft because the college, you know,
Speaker 2: g league is stealing so many players. Somebody come from
Speaker 2: the international ranks that we don't know much about. I mean,
Speaker 2: we didn't know Luca was going to be this. We
Speaker 2: just knew he was young and played well against European pros.
Speaker 2: So I think I think I would. I mean, if
Speaker 2: I was a team and had to give up a
Speaker 2: one in a two for Miles Garrett and a player,
Speaker 2: I would. I just don't think there's anything on the
Speaker 2: market like him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Cleveland's going to be in the position
Speaker 1: unlike the Matt Bricks. Well, I don't think you can
Speaker 1: trade him for anything less than like a historic hall,
Speaker 1: you know, like Russell like a quarterback level hal you know,
Speaker 1: you're talking multiple ones the two some players because they're
Speaker 1: in a weird spot, right because the Sean Watson contract
Speaker 1: is kind of an acre on the franchise, so you
Speaker 1: have to entertain trading him. But I don't think he
Speaker 1: can just give him away, like you know, DeVante and
Speaker 1: Tyree were traded for like a one in a two
Speaker 1: like that wouldn't be enough. So and I think the
Speaker 1: bidding process all it takes is three or four teams.
Speaker 1: I think they would whatever they would ultimately yet would
Speaker 1: be pre eye opening. And I think he would immediately
Speaker 1: sign the largest contract in the history of the NFL
Speaker 1: for a non quarterback with whoever trade it for. Uh.
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Speaker 2: the Cooper Cup is interesting, so listen. It was very
Speaker 2: obvious if you watch the Rams, the Rams have told
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup you're out. He immediately went to social media
Speaker 2: to complain to Curry some favor and some sympathy.
Speaker 1: I get it. What would I missed that one?
Speaker 2: He basically said this. I don't agree with this. I
Speaker 2: thought I was going to end my career with the Rams.
Speaker 2: The Rams have notified me they're going to trade or
Speaker 2: look to trade me immediately. Listen. I really trust Sean McVay,
Speaker 2: and they just did not use him down the stretch
Speaker 2: at all. And he was a block He was a blocker,
Speaker 2: and I had heard last year that he just couldn't
Speaker 2: weak to week. He couldn't play back to back like
Speaker 2: if he if he played on a hard surface. He
Speaker 2: was he was just not going to And I haven't
Speaker 2: looked up the data, but I was told last year
Speaker 2: they would have moved him last year if they could have.
Speaker 2: But the season, Remember they caught fire at the end
Speaker 2: of the season, and then everybody's like, well, let's you know,
Speaker 2: Pookah's a rookie, but Pooka is getting a little dinged
Speaker 2: up as well. They need to tight end and a
Speaker 2: receiver in this draft class, so they're going to be
Speaker 2: aggressive in the draft on that. Is there a market
Speaker 2: for Cooper cup He's expensive. If Sean McVay bails on somebody.
Speaker 2: This is why I always said when Kyle Shanahan bailed
Speaker 2: on Trey Lance and the Cowboys gave him a four,
Speaker 2: just use your head. Kyle makes everything work at quarterback.
Speaker 2: Like that's just the dumb move by Steven and Jerry
Speaker 2: Jones doesn't make any sense. If Sean McVay is out,
Speaker 2: I mean on a wide receiver or a running back
Speaker 2: like Cam Akers, he's like, I'm out, Well, Cam Akers
Speaker 2: is irrelevant or mostly irrelevant. Now, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't think Cooper Cuff has a market well.
Speaker 1: To me, the problem is is these older veteran players.
Speaker 1: He makes twenty million dollars and he's a thirty one
Speaker 1: year old guy who's been banged up these last three years,
Speaker 1: So you can't like these type players get cut like Cooper.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the social media posts, but they were
Speaker 1: floating it out last year during the season. This isn't shocking.
Speaker 1: You're making twenty million dollars next year, and guess what,
Speaker 1: no one's trading anything of value for a thirty one
Speaker 1: year old who's making twenty million dollars. Who great guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, in the peak of his powers was Super
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. Awesome player. But when you start getting injured
Speaker 1: and your production dips and you make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: This happens every time. Right before free agency, these guys
Speaker 1: get released because I think another team goes maybe we
Speaker 1: strike oil and get him for four million dollars and
Speaker 1: he gives us seventy five eighty catches, but we're paying
Speaker 1: five million dollars for that, not twenty. So I think
Speaker 1: the Rams know what's inevitable, and that is cutting him
Speaker 1: because you can't even eat enough money to trade him,
Speaker 1: like they couldn't eat five million dollars. Who wants him
Speaker 1: for fifteen. Like to me, again, I'm educated. Guess I'd
Speaker 1: say he's under a five million dollar player right now
Speaker 1: based on his age and the injuries. Now, I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this the other day. Some of the bad teams,
Speaker 1: you know, like the Raiders, the Patriots, you get a
Speaker 1: guy who's a super Bowl champion, who's a high character
Speaker 1: work ethic, you bring him in, do you overpay? I
Speaker 1: remember when I was in the Bay, Reggie McKenzie bought
Speaker 1: Jordi Nelson, who was shot. But he wants that type
Speaker 1: person in there. So maybe his market for crappy teams
Speaker 1: is higher. But if you're him, wouldn't you rather go
Speaker 1: play for a good team who don't like the Howie
Speaker 1: Roseman's and the Goutikins. They're gonna try to get you
Speaker 1: for two million dollars? So maybe the Patriots overpay you
Speaker 1: those type teams for like six or seven. And that's
Speaker 1: where you're to me, he's got one year contract. Bad
Speaker 1: teams maybe overpay for the guy. Good teams underpay for
Speaker 1: hopefully a one year wonder situation. But conn he's been
Speaker 1: really banged up. I mean, he is just and it's
Speaker 1: a testament to the way he played because he he's
Speaker 1: closer to like Deebo Samuel in terms of taking hits.
Speaker 1: And he's a physical guy. You know, he's not your
Speaker 1: typical like Edelman. I mean he's going over the middle,
Speaker 1: getting crushed, getting right back up takes a toll. I
Speaker 1: admire the player, but I have seen this situation a
Speaker 1: million times. This guy usually gets released, all right.
Speaker 2: So I touched on it at the very beginning. If
Speaker 2: you ever had I almost passed out the ear day
Speaker 2: on TV. I'm fine, it's.
Speaker 1: Okay, Colin. I was watching it live. I almost fell
Speaker 1: off the StairMaster. I immediately started texting all your producers.
Speaker 1: I said, what just happened? Because I knew something was
Speaker 1: You were five minutes into your segment, so I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in the business long enough to know that's
Speaker 1: not normal. And then you know, we had twenty minutes
Speaker 1: as I was worried about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's the nurse came in. Fox has you know,
Speaker 2: medical personnel on site. The nurse came in and took
Speaker 2: my blood pressure and she's like, yeah, you're white and
Speaker 2: that's really low, so we need to lay down. And
Speaker 2: I was fine, it's I've I've passed out once in
Speaker 2: my life before. Have you ever passed out? It's not great.
Speaker 2: You can feel it coming. You can feel it coming.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, Now, this one, I didn't pass out.
Speaker 2: I got close to it, but I the one I
Speaker 2: did before, I don't. I just banged my head on granite,
Speaker 2: had a big cut. I think people have seen that before.
Speaker 2: This one. I felt really close, but then I got
Speaker 2: on my knees. The first thing I thought was get
Speaker 2: on your knees. You don't want to do a face
Speaker 2: plant because the set is about four.
Speaker 1: Off the chair.
Speaker 2: And I thought, get down to the ground, get on
Speaker 2: your knees, get close, get to it. And uh, And
Speaker 2: I didn't. But it was you know, listen for five minutes.
Speaker 2: It was Harry people sent Uh. It was interesting. I
Speaker 2: had three or four different broadcasters go, Clay Travis text me,
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, Friday on the air. It hit me
Speaker 2: in the last hour. He goes, I know what you're
Speaker 2: going through. He goes, I was lost. It just everything
Speaker 2: was fuzzy, and so I was. So I had a
Speaker 2: couple of different broadcasters go, dude, I've I have the
Speaker 2: same flu and I know what you're going through. So
Speaker 2: that that part consoling me felt pretty good. But it's life.
Speaker 2: It happens. It's uh, I'm going to New Orleans now,
Speaker 2: your first night in New Orleans to night for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm right across. I was just texting
Speaker 1: Buddy on the Chiefs their hotels right next to me.
Speaker 1: Just got here. Uh, probably a couple hours ago, not
Speaker 1: even hour and a half. Agouh. So Mike, go get
Speaker 1: some some cocktails a night with some of the personnel
Speaker 1: people on on the two teams. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of carry over here. You know, I worked with
Speaker 1: a lot of people that now work for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: but were with the Eagles, and still some of those
Speaker 1: same Eagles. This is there's a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: how he was the GM when I was there, so
Speaker 1: all these guys know each other. Obviously Andy Howie was
Speaker 1: Andy's GM. It's kind of crazy that this has happened
Speaker 1: now two out of three years. Yeah. I think two
Speaker 1: years ago you felt like, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: big deal for Andy. This is the team that fired him.
Speaker 1: I think at this point in time it's just a
Speaker 1: little more like another team. But I mean this is
Speaker 1: still the team that kind of put him on the map,
Speaker 1: so it's I think Brandon Graham and Brandon Graham's the
Speaker 1: only remaining player that when he was there, so uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a pretty cool I mean what you know,
Speaker 1: when I was with Coach Reed, people forget it was
Speaker 1: clear like how he was this young, dynamic like just ambitious.
Speaker 1: Watch out he's coming. But you know, Coach Red, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of negativity around him at the time, bad
Speaker 1: game manager, could never win the big one. And at
Speaker 1: the time, like John Harball was a star, that was
Speaker 1: his guy. Ron Rivero was coaching like that was his guy.
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott would go on later with Raw it was
Speaker 1: clear like Andy was pretty damn good and I think
Speaker 1: you look back, you go, well, he had Donovan mcdabb
Speaker 1: who is a good player, but no one's comparing him
Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes, Mike Vick. The one year we had him,
Speaker 1: he just he's just kind of reckless, right, he'd get hurt.
Speaker 1: He was smaller, but he was an awesome talent. And
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers beat us in the playoffs and that was
Speaker 1: the year he won the Super Bowl, and that bet
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Em Clay Matthews had some really good players,
Speaker 1: but I think you know, the Kansas City situation, it's
Speaker 1: I mean, he's talked about like Bill Walsh, now, I
Speaker 1: mean he's that's the kind of the people forget too.
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh didn't win five Super Bowls. Bill Walsh retired
Speaker 1: after a third. George Seaffert won two, you know. So
Speaker 1: you know, Andy's this his six super Bowl you know.
Speaker 1: And Howie's I think well established himself as not just
Speaker 1: one of the best, if not the best GM in
Speaker 1: the league. I mean he's one of the best gms
Speaker 1: in sports. I can't even when he looked at that
Speaker 1: Luca trade value. His big thing is value. You know.
Speaker 1: That's the thing why he's so good in the draft
Speaker 1: or so good in free agency. He just under stands
Speaker 1: price points, what I have to pay to get you,
Speaker 1: what I have to trade, what's a good trade. He's
Speaker 1: so connected with agents and other gms. He's got like
Speaker 1: a Billy Bean quality. He's just smart and he's just go, go,
Speaker 1: go getter. So it's it's a small world, you know.
Speaker 1: I Mean that time obviously changed my life in a
Speaker 1: weird way of letting me here, but uh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a cool game. I'm glad you're okay, though.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was like I text you, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of jobs if you're a football coach and
Speaker 1: you start feeling that way, you know, just banging out film,
Speaker 1: you can just lay down you're live on air. I mean,
Speaker 1: were you looking and realizing, can I go five more
Speaker 1: minutes you try to finish the segment. Were you're thinking
Speaker 1: that in the back of your head with like a
Speaker 1: minute before you really.
Speaker 2: I was about six eighteen and I looked at the
Speaker 2: clock and I thought, I got to get to ten.
Speaker 2: And at six twenty eight, I'm like, nope, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: pass out or puke. I gotta go. So at six eighteen,
Speaker 2: I looked at the clock and I know I was
Speaker 2: in trouble. And then I just thought I'm going to
Speaker 2: get through it. And ten seconds later I was like,
Speaker 2: oh boy, I'm sweating. It's bad. So it happens.
Speaker 4: What do they say, what do they say? Just stomach
Speaker 4: bug y, stomach virus. My wife had it. I got it,
Speaker 4: and she had it for three days. I had it
Speaker 4: for one and then I just slept for a day
Speaker 4: and I'm fine, that's good, A right, buddy, good talking.
Speaker 1: I'll see you more. The volume