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Speaker 2: going to join me. I haven't been on the air

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Speaker 2: for a couple of days, so I don't want to

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Speaker 2: get too melodramatic, but let me just explain what happened. Monday.

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Speaker 2: I had some severe stomach pains. My wife had had

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Speaker 2: a stomach virus and I was with her all weekend.

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Speaker 2: She had it like late Saturday night. In the Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I left Sunday afternoon, felt great, everything was fine. Hydrated

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Speaker 2: it not good. So I was hydrated, came home great,

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Speaker 2: woke up, great night's sleep, got to work thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: before the show. I had severe stomach pains. Ten minutes

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Speaker 2: ginger rail. I'd never done that before. I thought, you

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Speaker 2: the next hour pretty rough. Thank god Fox had a

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Speaker 2: Tuesday or today off, depending on when you listen to this.

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Speaker 2: But I'm fine. A lot of you have had it

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Speaker 2: worse than me. I actually got text by several broadcasters

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Speaker 2: who had gone through this stomach virus over the last

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Speaker 2: bastically a twenty four hour, thirty hour bug. Pretty intense, painful,

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Speaker 2: but I'm fine. The issue is I wanted to spend

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Speaker 2: an hour and a half just talking about Luca to

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Speaker 2: the Lakers. First, I called somebody yesterday who has known

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Speaker 2: Nico Harrison, the GM who made the deal, the Mavericks GM.

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Speaker 2: He's known him for twenty two years, knew him when

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Speaker 2: he was a long time Nike representative, big shot at Nike,

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Speaker 2: And I said, you know, he made that trade deadline

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Speaker 2: move last year I thought was smart. The Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 2: thing was a big swing. He made some really really

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Speaker 2: What happened? And this person said, this came from above

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Speaker 2: one first round pickback, that is somebody in ownership telling

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Speaker 2: And because I mean, no reasonable person who's smart enough

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Speaker 2: Luca for one draft pick and thirty one year old

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Speaker 2: thirty two year old Anthony Davis. This just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: I said, if you'd have given away Anthony Davis three

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Speaker 2: too smart. The thing it is so that is pressure

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Speaker 2: somebody I trust, the different source, but somebody I trust

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Speaker 2: that this is not something that just came up in

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Speaker 2: the last month. They have been troubled, missed back to

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Speaker 2: often look like an exhausted one tentional player scoring only.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing you have to think about is

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Speaker 2: this the supermax contracts. You know extensions. They're a percentage

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Speaker 2: of the salary cap, and depending on your accolades and

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Speaker 2: what you've accumulated as a player, MVPs, multiple All Stars,

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Speaker 2: and Luca's been one of the fastest stars ever, like Lebron.

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Speaker 2: He's top five player instantly in the league second year.

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Speaker 2: So they were looking down the barrel the new owner

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Speaker 2: at seventy plus million dollars annually. Well, it's one thing

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Speaker 2: have to pay somebody three hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed. Okay,

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Speaker 2: seventy plus million annually. You start to consider everything, defense, conditioning.

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Speaker 2: Are you totally focused in the community. I mean again,

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Speaker 2: it's just like the rest of us in life. If

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Speaker 2: I was making thirty million dollars a year, fifty million

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Speaker 2: dollars a year in any business, they're considering everything. You're

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Speaker 2: working holidays, You're never turning the phone off. I remember

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Speaker 2: when I was at the other place ESPN George Bodenheimer,

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Speaker 2: his takeaway was sure, but the phone's never off, Like

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Speaker 2: that's part of the deal. That's being a president, that's

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Speaker 2: being a top fifty CEO in the country. When you

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Speaker 2: start making you know, double annually, what you know the

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Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the NFL can make or in that stratosphere,

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Speaker 2: seventy five million dollars a year, that's more than Patrick

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Speaker 2: a bad defensive player, increasingly hurt three calf injuries in

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Speaker 2: four years, mistraining camps, seems like he plays himself in shape,

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Speaker 2: never ending barking at the referees doesn't necessarily make all

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Speaker 2: thirty million dollars a year, you just sign it, you

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Speaker 2: deal with it. And I think that's just the reality

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Speaker 2: is the more you make in life, the more that's guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: The owners of whatever business you're in have to consider

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Speaker 2: a lot, and one of it is And I said

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Speaker 2: this years ago with Luca. I think he's a remarkable player.

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Speaker 2: This is not something they did on a whim. The

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Speaker 2: Nico Harrison knows that one first round picks not enough.

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Speaker 2: Now pivoting to Luca as a Laker, I don't buy

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Speaker 2: for a second that he and Lebron's games don't work.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Lebron and d Wade, and Luca is

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Speaker 2: a much better offensive player than d Wade, not nearly

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Speaker 2: the defensive player, but he's a much more difficult player

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Speaker 2: to prepare for. Luca's stop and go, herky jerky style

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Speaker 2: not saying he doesn't play hurt. Murkkeith Morris acknowledging as

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Speaker 2: a teammate, he does play hurt, but his style is

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Speaker 2: you can't defend it. I remember his first year in

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Speaker 2: the league when he averaged nineteen twenty points and Lebron

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Speaker 2: real deal, Like this, this guy is going to be unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Next following season he was. And so Lebron playing in

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Speaker 2: Miami with d Wade, their games didn't mesh. Neither was

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Speaker 2: a great outside shooter. They were both just tremendous athletes

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Speaker 2: who played with a relentless pace and physicality, and they

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Speaker 2: made it work because d Wade and Lebron are very

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Speaker 2: smart guys. You know, when Magic Johnson came to the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody knows that Kareem was stoic and can

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Speaker 2: be prickly, and Magic made it work. Great basketball players

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Speaker 2: awareness and their intelligence. They figure out how to make

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Speaker 2: it work. Lebron's played with everybody from Matthew della Vandova

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Speaker 2: I mean, and here's the thing. He worked with JR. Smith,

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Speaker 2: He worked with Anthony Davis, who had a reputation as

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Speaker 2: through injuries. He's worked with everybody. He's going to work

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Speaker 2: with Luca, And you know, Lebron doesn't have a history

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Speaker 2: of playing great off the ball. But you know, the

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Speaker 2: truth with Luca is he's so unstoppable. Sometimes playing off

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Speaker 2: the ball is just watching him hit a three, watching

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Speaker 2: him score. So I think it will work. The Lakers,

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Speaker 2: I do think, have a kind of a weird situation

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Speaker 2: see the Lakers moving, you know, like an Austin Reeves

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Speaker 2: going to be a bad defensive team with no size

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Speaker 2: away with that a little bit in a regular season.

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Speaker 2: You can not get away with it in the postseason

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Speaker 2: when you're playing the same team seven times. The good

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Speaker 2: coaching staffs will eat you alive. It's different in the

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Speaker 2: regular season. If you're playing a team comes into LA,

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Speaker 2: they're tired, they played the night before. They don't get

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Speaker 2: your greatest concentration or effort. In the playoffs, everybody's equally arrested.

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Speaker 2: If you're bad defensively, you'll get eaten alive. I think

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Speaker 2: the winner for the Lakers, beyond the fans and Lebron

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Speaker 2: So Dalton Connect doesn't need the ball. He's a playmaker,

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Speaker 2: It'll be a Lebron Luca team. And I think Dalton

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Speaker 2: Connett is a real winner here, the Tennessee rookie Tennessee

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Speaker 2: volunteer rookie. I think he really fits into it. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what you do with Austin Reeves. The fact

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Speaker 2: that they didn't have to give away Austin Reeves is

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Speaker 2: another reminder that Dallas was told to make this move.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, if I've been in enough negotiations in

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Speaker 2: my life to know that large companies have layers and

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Speaker 2: layers and layers of attorneys and people to go through.

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Speaker 2: Very rarely as an organization make a horrible trade. There's

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Speaker 2: too many eyes and ears that see it and hear

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Speaker 2: about it. This felt like pressure down Nico close to

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Speaker 2: the deadline. Make something happen now. And you know the

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Speaker 2: Lakers not only benefit from getting Luca but keeping Austin

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Speaker 2: Reeves and a first round draft pick. That's insane. So

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Speaker 2: the move doesn't make any sense at all. The Lakers

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Speaker 2: obviously benefit. Mean, it's just interesting if you look, either

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Speaker 2: through free agency or trades, the Lakers have gotten everybody

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Speaker 2: from Wilt from the Sixers, Kareem from the Milwaukee Bucks

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy one, Kobe Bryant from Charlotte Shaq and

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Speaker 2: Lebron as free agents, and now Luca in a trade.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just insane. I don't believe there's a conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: And the reason I don't is why were the Nicks

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Speaker 2: DC and big market Detroit and Atlanta and Philadelphia is underachieving.

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Speaker 2: This was just this was a trade partner that Luca.

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Speaker 2: All Right. John Middlecoff, the former NFL scout hired by

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Speaker 1: to wonder with Patrick Mahomes. I saw a picture a

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they've just run into a guy and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, think about this. Mahomes didn't get more athletic,

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Speaker 2: physical machine. And I think some of that comes back

426
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Speaker 2: to facing each other. You know. It's funny. During Alabama's

427
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: fifteen year dynasty, I only thought maybe one of their

428
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: teams was one of the best I've ever seen. I

429
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: thought it was the greatest overall dynasty, but I didn't

430
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: think they had some of the best teams. I think

431
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 2: the best SEC team I've ever seen is the Joe

432
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: Burrow LSU team that I mean literally had like eight

433
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: good pros. Now they didn't have as good a coach,

434
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: but I thought that was the most talented team I'd

435
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: ever seen out of the SEC was the LSU Joe

436
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: Burrell team. And I thought the USC teams with Pete

437
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: Carroll were all time stuff. I thought there were a

438
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: couple of Miami Hurricane teams that I thought were all

439
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: time stuff. I didn't think the Clemson teams were all

440
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: time stuff or most of Saban's. I do think the

441
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: Spurs historically were underrated because I think Mano Genobli's the

442
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 2: best sixth man in league history. You had Tony Parker

443
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 2: was a perennial All Star running the show. Tim Duncan

444
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: was the great fundamental and one of the great coaches.

445
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: I always thought those teams were better Bruce Bowen. They

446
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: just had a lot of really smart, high IQ players

447
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: in close games, but they never won back to back,

448
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: so I didn't think they're one of the great teams.

449
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: Shaq and Kobe. Yes, I don't think the Miami heatwore

450
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: they were small. I mean, if you remember, it was

451
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 2: like Joe l Anthony E, Donnis Haslin were they're bigs.

452
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: Chris Bosh was, you know, pushed out to shoot, you know,

453
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: corner threes. So not every team dynasty is great. New

454
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: England's most talented teams had Randy Moss and they didn't

455
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. So I don't when I look

456
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: at New England's all time teams. I think they're the

457
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: best coach and quarterback. If the Chiefs won three in

458
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: a row, where do we put them as an all

459
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: time great team. So I grew up with the Steelers

460
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: in the in the seventies where there was no mobility.

461
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: They had like eight Hall of Famers. They were there

462
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: forever they had like a three year run. You couldn't

463
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: score on them. There were some Raider teams, the Kenny

464
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: Stabler Raider teams that were insane. That just I mean,

465
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: I can still name the players. It can go Cliff Branch.

466
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: It was insane. I remember them.

467
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: It's it's just from the Art Shells and Villa pianos

468
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 2: and Matuzas and Cliff Branch and John jim Otto and

469
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: Dave Casper and shit man. It was like every unit

470
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: had a Hall of Famer. You don't get that now.

471
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: I think the Niners and the Cowboys their last like

472
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: those those Bill Watsh Joe Montana Niner teams were stacked.

473
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson a couple of those Cowboy teams. Those are different.

474
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: I kind of put the Patriots in New England. What's

475
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: available with today's salary cap dynasty which is best coach,

476
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: best quarterback, arguably on the opposite side of the head coach,

477
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: best coordinator, a little undervalued in terms of roster composition, tremendous,

478
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: circumstantially tremendous in the red zone, offense and defense. But

479
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 2: I don't think the Chiefs, I think they're more entertaining

480
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 2: than the Patriots. I don't consider them. I don't consider

481
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: this one of the great teams.

482
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Speaker 1: I've ever watched.

483
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Speaker 2: If they win a third.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean from a roster standpoint, they wouldn't. I

485
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: mean that the team that I kind of grew up

486
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: on was more Steve Young. But in ninety four they

487
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: signed Deon Sanders in the peak of his powers, and

488
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: they somehow had a top ten pick, and they drafted

489
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: Bryant Young, who was the rookie of the year. So

490
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: they added Deon Sanders Bryan Young to Jerry Raiz, Steve Young,

491
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: Brent Jones. It was an unfair team. Yeah, you know,

492
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Ken Norton, Erick Davis, like they were those

493
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: individual nineties roster Cowboys and Niners. Even the FARV team

494
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: with FARV in the peak of his powers, with Reggie White.

495
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so listen, what Andy's doing he's gonna go.

496
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: If they win this, it's the greatest run I think

497
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: of I've seen in my life. I mean, this would

498
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: be their four super Bowl in what five years or

499
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: six years, they've won three in a row. I don't

500
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: think that ever happens again. And I think we throw

501
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: that out a lot. Never gonna happen again, never gonna

502
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: happen again. Like, I don't think that's ever happening again.

503
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: If he wins this game, I mean, it's insane that

504
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: he's even got to this point. I mean last year

505
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: he was an underdog twice on the road at Buffalo

506
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: and Lamar, two Hall of Fame quarterbacks and beat him both.

507
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: And then the Niner team who was awesome last year,

508
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: is like a defining moment for the era. I think

509
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: winning those three straight games Buffalo, Baltimore and the forty

510
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: nine ers, Like he wins this game, that's awesome. It

511
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: was more impressive. What they did last year was kind

512
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: of to me, the icing on the cake and everything

513
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: is just kind of cherries and sprinkles on top. Since

514
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: like last year was an all timer, the ninety eight Bulls,

515
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: who they literally did a documentary for, Like when you

516
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: watch highlights of Michael moving around. You're like Google night

517
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: or YouTube nineteen ninety one, Michael running around. It's not

518
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: even close, but you get more credit because you have

519
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: the build up. Tiger Woods won the US Open in

520
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight with a torn acl and a

521
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: broken lake like that wasn't the best version of them,

522
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: but that adds to kind of the legend of sports,

523
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: right Michael George Tom Brady coming back from twenty eight three, Right,

524
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Like you said, the teams were much more explosive. Now

525
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: it is a team game, right, So in seven and

526
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, you could argue those teams were more explosive,

527
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: but their team wasn't as good as some of the

528
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: latter years, with the Attleman's, the mccordy's, the High Towers,

529
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: the Cronx. That's what I would say about this Chiefs team.

530
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: They are a complete unit. They're not the sexiest, they

531
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: don't have Jerry Rice running out, they don't have you know,

532
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: McDuffie's a good player. He's no one's gonna confuse him

533
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: with you know, Deon Sanders or Darrell Reeves. But they

534
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: are a championship unit. I think they've become kind of

535
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: what Alabama's teams, not all of them were the same.

536
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: But if you were gonna beat him in a big game,

537
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: you better bring your a game because they had just

538
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: the championship mojo, the championship medal. I just can't bet

539
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: like this Eagles team is loaded. I mean, if Jalen

540
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: just plays okay, which he's it's if you put Patrick

541
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: Mahomes on this Eagles team, I think the Eagles be

542
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 1: favored by a touchdown.

543
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I would take Philadelphia to blow him out.

544
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's some numbers on Jalen Hurts,

545
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: And this is another reason I liked Kansas City. When

546
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts doesn't face pressure, he's a top five quarterback

547
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: in the league. When he does, he's like thirtieth. So

548
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: when you get him to be pressured, well, Spags from

549
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: the second, third, and fourth quarters this year creates top ten,

550
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: top five, top six pressures in the league. So the

551
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: key to the game is can Spags create pressure because

552
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: on Jalen Hurts. If they can, they win the game.

553
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: Because Jalen Hurts and Greg co Salzman saying that this

554
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: to me all year, the film doesn't lie. He's a

555
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: pretty average pocket passer. If you put pressure on him,

556
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: he deteriorates very quickly.

557
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: And aj wasn't reading the book on the sideline randomly.

558
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's trying not to smash. Yeah.

559
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: So in the end, I think it comes down to,

560
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm I know what Kansas City's going

561
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: to try to do. They'll bring some surprises offensively and

562
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: special teams. They're going to try to put pressure on

563
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. Meanwhile, Philadelphia can't you If you bring any

564
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: sort of blitz package on Mahomes, he'll eat you alive.

565
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: So you just have to hope you win one on

566
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 2: one battles, which they're certainly capable of. But they do

567
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: have rookie corners and rookie corners and big Scott's big spots,

568
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: you know. Can I think Andy probably looks at Philadelphia's

569
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: secondary and thinks, boy, these guys are talented, and boy

570
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: these guys are really young. And I mean that that

571
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: to me is Kansas City's game plan. Attack the young corners,

572
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: make them earn their pay, give them, you know, multiple sets,

573
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: throw things at them they have not seen practice, and

574
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: catch them off guard.

575
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: I think the one thing is that the Chiefs, or

576
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Eagles went healthy have the best offensive

577
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: lind in the league. I mean, you know Lane Johnson's

578
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer My lat is one of the greatest

579
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: seventh round Australian stories in the history of the league.

580
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: But you know in that NFC Championship game, what happened

581
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: They had two centers. I mean one guy's a guard

582
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: who had to bump the center who are injured. One

583
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: has a back and one has a knee. Now I

584
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: would imagine they're both gonna try to play. I would

585
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: say it's a fifty to fifty chance one of them.

586
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: Just Rea, I mean, you're in the trenches against Chris Jones.

587
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: What if all of a sudden Cam Jurgen's back tightens up,

588
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: or Landon Dickerson's knee feels a little weird. That could

589
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: get weird fast, and all of a sudden you've got

590
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: a domino effect inside and then spagg just attacks. But

591
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles went healthy are equipped just with the size

592
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: and how talented they are, and god her who's a

593
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: really all around good tight end to in theory handle it.

594
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: But Jalen is just you just never know what you're

595
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna get. You know, you saw Washington, which he had

596
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: best game of the season. Whyh is not very good

597
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: on defense. I mean, so it's just look at them

598
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: against Green Bay, who is a solid defense, right. And

599
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: the other thing is the Chiefs. I have a hard

600
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: time seeing Saquon bust a couple forty to fifty er

601
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: runs against them. They're the best tackling team in the league,

602
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: like all eleven other guys. Most teams they're front seven

603
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: tackles right their d linebackers. All the Chiefs dvs hit

604
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: all of them. Is what the Niners have had over

605
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: the Kyle Shanahan era. When your corners and your safeties

606
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: all tackle like linebackers, you're pretty hard to play because

607
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: while I'm not decapitating you John Lynch style nineteen ninety six,

608
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: I'm still hitting you really really hard. And that's what

609
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs do a really good job of. So to me,

610
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: there's a physicality element, and that's in the post Tyreek

611
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Kill era because remember when they beat the forty nine ers,

612
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: their defense is fags. He just got there. The defense

613
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: was kind of in question. It has become, you know,

614
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: it's a new school defense because we don't play like

615
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: we once did, but in terms of physicality, they are

616
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: easily one of the more physical teams in the league.

617
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: And to me, it's like, saque you're not doing anything

618
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: on us. Jalen beat us, and in theory he should

619
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: be able to beat him because he has aj Brown

620
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: and Devonte Smith. I mean, the two guys make two

621
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. But it's just it. Jees probably feel

622
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: pretty good that McDuffie can at least handle one of

623
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: them right and just keep him in front of them,

624
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: And then it's can the other guy make a lot

625
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: of big plays? And Goddard the Chiefs have been a

626
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: little susceptible over the middle of the field because I mean,

627
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: you're just gonna have some openings in the defense. And

628
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Goddard is we don't talk about him like we do

629
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: the Kelsey's the Kittles like he's pretty damn good. So

630
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd look for Goddard if you tell me

631
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles win. I think it's less likely that Saquon

632
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: goes for like one hundred and fifty yards. I think

633
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: it's more likely, like I see Dallas Goddard having one

634
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards in a couple of touchdowns.

635
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Goddard and the McBride from Arizona are the two

636
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: tight ends in the league that get overshadowed that are

637
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Speaker 2: just fantastic players. They are wildly productive, and they're very

638
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Speaker 2: good in big spots, big third downs and big spots.

639
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Speaker 2: So chip Kelly gets six million dollars to go to

640
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Speaker 2: the Raiders, and I've got to tell you, I don't

641
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: mean to be a sucker, but Pete Carroll chip Kelly,

642
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: if they get a quarterback, and I do believe that

643
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: a Riley Leonard Kyle McCord in the second to third

644
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: round could actually end up falling to good teams and

645
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: actually being decent franchise quarterbacks. But I kind of looked

646
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Speaker 2: at the Raiders and I have Max Crosby on my

647
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: show Thursday at the Super Bowl, and I'm like, am

648
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Speaker 2: I nuts to think that they're going to be viable

649
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Speaker 2: next year if they get Shador Sanders and he can play.

650
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Speaker 2: I mean, they have both their tackles to have their center.

651
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Speaker 1: I got to push back here, Collin six million dollars,

652
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, I would walk into Howie Roseman's room right

653
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Speaker 1: now and say I can't coach the Super Bowl till

654
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Speaker 1: I make twenty I mean Chip Kelly to be six

655
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Speaker 1: million dollars, and honestly, that just shows it wasn't dead

656
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Speaker 1: set on leaving Ryan Day. He was making two and

657
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Speaker 1: a half three million dollars at Ohio, say so, the

658
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: highest paid coordinator as we know, Liam Cohen just got

659
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Speaker 1: four and a half. He obviously became the head coach,

660
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Speaker 1: but that was the going that was the highest paid

661
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Speaker 1: non head coaching coordinator. It took six million dollars to convince.

662
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Speaker 1: So clearly Chip had to be like truly bought to

663
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Speaker 1: show up because they don't have a quarterback and Shadoor.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are like physical limitations to you know,

665
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Speaker 1: one thing Chip likes is a running quarterback or a

666
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Speaker 1: mobile court. That's not really Shadoor. I think people think

667
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: that because of Dion and Brock's a stud. But their skill, guys,

668
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: you know, Jacobs is gone, devolo receiver. They got a

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Speaker 1: long way to go. The other thing. I wonder and

670
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Speaker 1: people just think I'm a Chip hater. I do not care. Honestly,

671
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Speaker 1: Pete chip Kelly at this point in time, sixty years old,

672
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: bit a ton of money like big ego. Pete obviously

673
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Speaker 1: big well accomplished. That's kind of a unique It's one

674
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Speaker 1: thing if they knew each other and worked kind of

675
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Speaker 1: a unique setup here. You know, I thought Pete would,

676
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Speaker 1: if not go back to the well, get kind of

677
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Speaker 1: a younger guy that let's face it, Pete's gonna want

678
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Speaker 1: to play defense and run the ball. Now in theory,

679
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, Chip likes to run the ball as well.

680
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Speaker 1: This year he was kind of forced because their receivers

681
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: were so good. But I just wonder the dynamics of

682
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: those two guys. Look at Pete's offensive coordinators in the

683
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: pros at least, there's a lot of Bevils, Schottenheimers, guys

684
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Speaker 1: who were clearly not even close on Pete's level. And

685
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Chip is because he hasn't accomplished what

686
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Speaker 1: Pete has, but just in terms of his name recognized,

687
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: like he's pretty famous. So that's something to me, Like,

688
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: I get it. They wanted to take a BIX. They

689
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: interviewed him last year, remember with Antonio Pierce, and they

690
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: didn't go. I just it's a lot of money. I

691
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: think that's one of those way Chip Kelly is resetting

692
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Speaker 1: the market. I thought that was kind of crazy because

693
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Speaker 1: also It just shows that he didn't really want the job,

694
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Speaker 1: but they made an offer so big he couldn't turn down. So, like,

695
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Speaker 1: is his heart really in it? Did he want a

696
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Lebo house day? I think look at the defense as

697
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: to he played the other thing with Jim Who do

698
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: they lose to really badly this year? Michigan, Well, who's

699
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: their coordinator? An NFL guy Week Martindale. Because physical defenses

700
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Speaker 1: can slow down his offense historically has when he tries

701
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Speaker 1: to run the ball, Well, he's going on because Jim Harball,

702
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: who's always giving him trouble. Sean Payton's defense were the

703
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: best in the league, and obviously Andy reeed. So it's

704
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: that's a division for his offense that obviously has changed

705
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: over time. He's not just gonna run it down people's throats, right,

706
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Speaker 1: he didn't call it. I think he's gonna be a

707
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Speaker 1: pretty big challenge. Sexy headline. I don't know. I got

708
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Speaker 1: that one reflect and I like what they're doing. You know,

709
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: spy Tech's a good higher. I get the Raiders a

710
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Speaker 1: lot of credit. Pete Carroll real higher. This was just

711
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: a little weird. It's a little little off the beaten path.

712
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Speaker 1: I just sometimes those in the NFL, I think we

713
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Speaker 1: all know don't always work.

714
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Speaker 2: I talked about how obviously there was pressure down ownership

715
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Speaker 2: to the GM at Dallas to trade Luca, otherwise you'd

716
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Speaker 2: get far more than one great player in one draft pick.

717
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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett says, I want out like Luca. He is

718
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Speaker 2: a phenomenon once in a franchise talent. You don't get

719
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: another Lawrence Taylor of the New York Giants, like that's one.

720
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Speaker 2: You don't get another Miles Garrett with the Cleveland Browns.

721
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Speaker 2: He'll be the best pass rusher you'll ever have. He

722
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Speaker 2: wants out. Who jumps out to you? Because Miles is

723
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Speaker 2: a game changer. He is literally one of the five

724
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Speaker 2: defensive players in the league that's just not blockable, like

725
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Speaker 2: a Chris Jones who can move around, Max Crosby, TJ.

726
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: Watt when he's healthy, Patrick Sir Tan, There's a handful

727
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Speaker 2: of guys, they're just different. Who jumps out to you

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Speaker 2: with Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I even go for I think he's one of

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Speaker 1: the most talented guys of the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: You know, and you talk about Luca knock on Luca,

732
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: which is kind of stupid. I mean, I've watched some

733
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Speaker 1: fat and score fifty points, but he's out of shape.

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Speaker 1: That is not a question with allows here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you remember that that video of him playing basketball, and

736
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Speaker 1: this Brown's like, we got to pull it back. He

737
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: looked like an NBA player. I did a little recon

738
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Speaker 1: tried to compare him to what he would be. Like.

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Speaker 1: You know, when Reggie White left the UH Eagles Philadelphia

740
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Speaker 1: Eagles to side with them Packers, he was thirty two

741
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: years old. He was older. Now, part of that was

742
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Speaker 1: the USFL, but he went on to have, I mean

743
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career for the Packers, right Pro

744
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: Bowl every year. So if you look at it like that,

745
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Speaker 1: a guy in great shape, he clearly takes his craft.

746
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Speaker 1: Like I think they would get multiple first round picks,

747
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Speaker 1: but you also got to give him probably one hundred

748
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Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars. So to me, it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of NFC teams, Packers, Washington. I think the Lions have

750
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Speaker 1: to sniff around a lot forty nine ers in theory,

751
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: but like I I just think that they got some

752
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: other needs in the sense of like can they just

753
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Speaker 1: use their draft picks when they're paying all these Washington

754
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: kind of complicated. Yeah to me, Washington, I think you

755
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Speaker 1: think long and hard. But if you got to give

756
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Speaker 1: two ones and a two and a player like he's

757
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Speaker 1: going to get a historic call, even at twenty nine

758
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Speaker 1: years old. I think it's difficult when you're just in

759
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Speaker 1: year one, when you still need some of these picks,

760
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Speaker 1: Like ideally you like to just buy players on the

761
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Speaker 1: open market, but you're having a long conversation, you know.

762
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Speaker 1: And I think the quarterback showed so much this year

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Speaker 1: you'd have to highly entertain John.

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Speaker 2: I think we have to consider this too. It is

765
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Speaker 2: an abnormally weak draft. And I've said this, I would

766
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Speaker 2: be much more willing to give a first round pickup

767
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Speaker 2: this year than last year.

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Speaker 1: And they're picking what twenty seven, you know, because they

769
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Speaker 1: were in the NFC championship game, so it's not even

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Speaker 1: a higher Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I just think, yeah, this is one of these years.

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Speaker 2: I said, this is this, this is the year if

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Speaker 2: you really need now. It's a good year for edge

774
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Speaker 2: rushers in the draft. It's funny. I don't think it's

775
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Speaker 2: a bad draft. I just think it's a lot of

776
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Speaker 2: second round players. I think there's about seven to eight

777
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Speaker 2: great players and then it's just a bunch of second

778
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Speaker 2: and early third round players for the next forty picks.

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Speaker 2: But there is no Miles Garrett in this draft. So

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Speaker 2: if you're a team that really wants to make a splash,

781
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the Rams went out and they

782
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Speaker 2: got a von Miller and look at the Eagles have

783
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: done this. They go out and just buy players. I think,

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Speaker 2: I mean that it's in the NBA. Every other draft

785
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Speaker 2: is a week draft. It's very rare when you have

786
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Speaker 2: these days, a really strong draft because the college, you know,

787
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Speaker 2: g league is stealing so many players. Somebody come from

788
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: the international ranks that we don't know much about. I mean,

789
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Speaker 2: we didn't know Luca was going to be this. We

790
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: just knew he was young and played well against European pros.

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Speaker 2: So I think I think I would. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: I was a team and had to give up a

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Speaker 2: one in a two for Miles Garrett and a player,

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Speaker 2: I would. I just don't think there's anything on the

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Speaker 2: market like him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Cleveland's going to be in the position

797
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Speaker 1: unlike the Matt Bricks. Well, I don't think you can

798
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Speaker 1: trade him for anything less than like a historic hall,

799
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Speaker 1: you know, like Russell like a quarterback level hal you know,

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Speaker 1: you're talking multiple ones the two some players because they're

801
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: in a weird spot, right because the Sean Watson contract

802
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: is kind of an acre on the franchise, so you

803
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Speaker 1: have to entertain trading him. But I don't think he

804
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Speaker 1: can just give him away, like you know, DeVante and

805
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Speaker 1: Tyree were traded for like a one in a two

806
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: like that wouldn't be enough. So and I think the

807
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Speaker 1: bidding process all it takes is three or four teams.

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Speaker 1: I think they would whatever they would ultimately yet would

809
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Speaker 1: be pre eye opening. And I think he would immediately

810
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Speaker 1: sign the largest contract in the history of the NFL

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Speaker 1: for a non quarterback with whoever trade it for. Uh.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Fubo, as you guys know, is my

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Speaker 2: favorite thing, my favorite app to use, NFL, NBA. Go

814
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Speaker 2: to Fubo dot com slash colin. I love it. I'm

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Speaker 2: on it constantly. I'm flying to New Orleans tomorrow, I'm

816
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: flying back from New Orleans over the weekend, I will

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Speaker 2: be on Fubo dot com.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's just so easy to access, and a lot of

820
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Speaker 2: airlines these days they don't have they don't have TVs.

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Speaker 2: I fly a lot of American airlines. They don't have

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Speaker 2: even up front. I mean I may get a shrimp

823
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Speaker 2: cocktail and you don't, but I don't get a TV.

824
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Speaker 2: So Fubo dot com slash Colin. I love it. I

825
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: use it constantly. I used it flying back from Chicago.

826
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Speaker 2: Always delivers college pro sports everything. They got new shows,

827
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Speaker 2: they got, they got comedies. Fubo dot com slash Colin. So, uh,

828
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Speaker 2: the Cooper Cup is interesting, so listen. It was very

829
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Speaker 2: obvious if you watch the Rams, the Rams have told

830
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup you're out. He immediately went to social media

831
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Speaker 2: to complain to Curry some favor and some sympathy.

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Speaker 1: I get it. What would I missed that one?

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Speaker 2: He basically said this. I don't agree with this. I

834
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Speaker 2: thought I was going to end my career with the Rams.

835
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Speaker 2: The Rams have notified me they're going to trade or

836
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Speaker 2: look to trade me immediately. Listen. I really trust Sean McVay,

837
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Speaker 2: and they just did not use him down the stretch

838
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: at all. And he was a block He was a blocker,

839
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Speaker 2: and I had heard last year that he just couldn't

840
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: weak to week. He couldn't play back to back like

841
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: if he if he played on a hard surface. He

842
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: was he was just not going to And I haven't

843
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: looked up the data, but I was told last year

844
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Speaker 2: they would have moved him last year if they could have.

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Speaker 2: But the season, Remember they caught fire at the end

846
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Speaker 2: of the season, and then everybody's like, well, let's you know,

847
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Speaker 2: Pookah's a rookie, but Pooka is getting a little dinged

848
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Speaker 2: up as well. They need to tight end and a

849
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: receiver in this draft class, so they're going to be

850
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: aggressive in the draft on that. Is there a market

851
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 2: for Cooper cup He's expensive. If Sean McVay bails on somebody.

852
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: This is why I always said when Kyle Shanahan bailed

853
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 2: on Trey Lance and the Cowboys gave him a four,

854
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: just use your head. Kyle makes everything work at quarterback.

855
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: Like that's just the dumb move by Steven and Jerry

856
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: Jones doesn't make any sense. If Sean McVay is out,

857
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean on a wide receiver or a running back

858
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: like Cam Akers, he's like, I'm out, Well, Cam Akers

859
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: is irrelevant or mostly irrelevant. Now, I don't know. I

860
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: don't think Cooper Cuff has a market well.

861
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: To me, the problem is is these older veteran players.

862
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: He makes twenty million dollars and he's a thirty one

863
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: year old guy who's been banged up these last three years,

864
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: So you can't like these type players get cut like Cooper.

865
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: I didn't see the social media posts, but they were

866
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: floating it out last year during the season. This isn't shocking.

867
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: You're making twenty million dollars next year, and guess what,

868
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: no one's trading anything of value for a thirty one

869
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: year old who's making twenty million dollars. Who great guy.

870
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: I mean, in the peak of his powers was Super

871
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. Awesome player. But when you start getting injured

872
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: and your production dips and you make a lot of money.

873
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: This happens every time. Right before free agency, these guys

874
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: get released because I think another team goes maybe we

875
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: strike oil and get him for four million dollars and

876
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: he gives us seventy five eighty catches, but we're paying

877
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: five million dollars for that, not twenty. So I think

878
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: the Rams know what's inevitable, and that is cutting him

879
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: because you can't even eat enough money to trade him,

880
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: like they couldn't eat five million dollars. Who wants him

881
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: for fifteen. Like to me, again, I'm educated. Guess I'd

882
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: say he's under a five million dollar player right now

883
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: based on his age and the injuries. Now, I was

884
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: thinking about this the other day. Some of the bad teams,

885
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: you know, like the Raiders, the Patriots, you get a

886
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: guy who's a super Bowl champion, who's a high character

887
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: work ethic, you bring him in, do you overpay? I

888
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: remember when I was in the Bay, Reggie McKenzie bought

889
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: Jordi Nelson, who was shot. But he wants that type

890
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: person in there. So maybe his market for crappy teams

891
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: is higher. But if you're him, wouldn't you rather go

892
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: play for a good team who don't like the Howie

893
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: Roseman's and the Goutikins. They're gonna try to get you

894
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: for two million dollars? So maybe the Patriots overpay you

895
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: those type teams for like six or seven. And that's

896
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: where you're to me, he's got one year contract. Bad

897
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: teams maybe overpay for the guy. Good teams underpay for

898
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: hopefully a one year wonder situation. But conn he's been

899
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: really banged up. I mean, he is just and it's

900
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: a testament to the way he played because he he's

901
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: closer to like Deebo Samuel in terms of taking hits.

902
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: And he's a physical guy. You know, he's not your

903
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: typical like Edelman. I mean he's going over the middle,

904
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: getting crushed, getting right back up takes a toll. I

905
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: admire the player, but I have seen this situation a

906
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: million times. This guy usually gets released, all right.

907
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: So I touched on it at the very beginning. If

908
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: you ever had I almost passed out the ear day

909
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: on TV. I'm fine, it's.

910
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Colin. I was watching it live. I almost fell

911
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: off the StairMaster. I immediately started texting all your producers.

912
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: I said, what just happened? Because I knew something was

913
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: You were five minutes into your segment, so I you know,

914
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in the business long enough to know that's

915
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: not normal. And then you know, we had twenty minutes

916
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: as I was worried about you.

917
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's the nurse came in. Fox has you know,

918
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: medical personnel on site. The nurse came in and took

919
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: my blood pressure and she's like, yeah, you're white and

920
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: that's really low, so we need to lay down. And

921
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: I was fine, it's I've I've passed out once in

922
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: my life before. Have you ever passed out? It's not great.

923
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 2: You can feel it coming. You can feel it coming.

924
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, Now, this one, I didn't pass out.

925
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: I got close to it, but I the one I

926
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: did before, I don't. I just banged my head on granite,

927
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: had a big cut. I think people have seen that before.

928
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: This one. I felt really close, but then I got

929
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: on my knees. The first thing I thought was get

930
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 2: on your knees. You don't want to do a face

931
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: plant because the set is about four.

932
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Off the chair.

933
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: And I thought, get down to the ground, get on

934
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: your knees, get close, get to it. And uh, And

935
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: I didn't. But it was you know, listen for five minutes.

936
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: It was Harry people sent Uh. It was interesting. I

937
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: had three or four different broadcasters go, Clay Travis text me,

938
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, Friday on the air. It hit me

939
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: in the last hour. He goes, I know what you're

940
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: going through. He goes, I was lost. It just everything

941
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: was fuzzy, and so I was. So I had a

942
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: couple of different broadcasters go, dude, I've I have the

943
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: same flu and I know what you're going through. So

944
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: that that part consoling me felt pretty good. But it's life.

945
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: It happens. It's uh, I'm going to New Orleans now,

946
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: your first night in New Orleans to night for you?

947
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm right across. I was just texting

948
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: Buddy on the Chiefs their hotels right next to me.

949
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: Just got here. Uh, probably a couple hours ago, not

950
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: even hour and a half. Agouh. So Mike, go get

951
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: some some cocktails a night with some of the personnel

952
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: people on on the two teams. You know, there's a

953
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: lot of carry over here. You know, I worked with

954
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people that now work for the Chiefs

955
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: but were with the Eagles, and still some of those

956
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: same Eagles. This is there's a lot of you know,

957
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: how he was the GM when I was there, so

958
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: all these guys know each other. Obviously Andy Howie was

959
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: Andy's GM. It's kind of crazy that this has happened

960
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: now two out of three years. Yeah. I think two

961
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: years ago you felt like, you know, it was a

962
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: big deal for Andy. This is the team that fired him.

963
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: I think at this point in time it's just a

964
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: little more like another team. But I mean this is

965
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: still the team that kind of put him on the map,

966
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: so it's I think Brandon Graham and Brandon Graham's the

967
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: only remaining player that when he was there, so uh yeah,

968
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: it's just it's a pretty cool I mean what you know,

969
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: when I was with Coach Reed, people forget it was

970
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: clear like how he was this young, dynamic like just ambitious.

971
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: Watch out he's coming. But you know, Coach Red, there's

972
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: a lot of negativity around him at the time, bad

973
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: game manager, could never win the big one. And at

974
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: the time, like John Harball was a star, that was

975
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: his guy. Ron Rivero was coaching like that was his guy.

976
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott would go on later with Raw it was

977
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: clear like Andy was pretty damn good and I think

978
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: you look back, you go, well, he had Donovan mcdabb

979
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: who is a good player, but no one's comparing him

980
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes, Mike Vick. The one year we had him,

981
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: he just he's just kind of reckless, right, he'd get hurt.

982
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: He was smaller, but he was an awesome talent. And

983
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers beat us in the playoffs and that was

984
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: the year he won the Super Bowl, and that bet

985
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Em Clay Matthews had some really good players,

986
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: but I think you know, the Kansas City situation, it's

987
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's talked about like Bill Walsh, now, I

988
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: mean he's that's the kind of the people forget too.

989
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh didn't win five Super Bowls. Bill Walsh retired

990
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: after a third. George Seaffert won two, you know. So

991
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, Andy's this his six super Bowl you know.

992
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: And Howie's I think well established himself as not just

993
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: one of the best, if not the best GM in

994
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: the league. I mean he's one of the best gms

995
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: in sports. I can't even when he looked at that

996
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: Luca trade value. His big thing is value. You know.

997
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: That's the thing why he's so good in the draft

998
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: or so good in free agency. He just under stands

999
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: price points, what I have to pay to get you,

1000
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: what I have to trade, what's a good trade. He's

1001
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: so connected with agents and other gms. He's got like

1002
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: a Billy Bean quality. He's just smart and he's just go, go,

1003
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: go getter. So it's it's a small world, you know.

1004
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: I Mean that time obviously changed my life in a

1005
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: weird way of letting me here, but uh yeah, it's

1006
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: a it's a cool game. I'm glad you're okay, though.

1007
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that was like I text you, you know

1008
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: a lot of jobs if you're a football coach and

1009
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: you start feeling that way, you know, just banging out film,

1010
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: you can just lay down you're live on air. I mean,

1011
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: were you looking and realizing, can I go five more

1012
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: minutes you try to finish the segment. Were you're thinking

1013
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: that in the back of your head with like a

1014
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: minute before you really.

1015
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Speaker 2: I was about six eighteen and I looked at the

1016
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 2: clock and I thought, I got to get to ten.

1017
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Speaker 2: And at six twenty eight, I'm like, nope, I'm gonna

1018
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: pass out or puke. I gotta go. So at six eighteen,

1019
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: I looked at the clock and I know I was

1020
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: in trouble. And then I just thought I'm going to

1021
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: get through it. And ten seconds later I was like,

1022
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: oh boy, I'm sweating. It's bad. So it happens.

1023
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: What do they say, what do they say? Just stomach

1024
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 4: bug y, stomach virus. My wife had it. I got it,

1025
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: and she had it for three days. I had it

1026
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 4: for one and then I just slept for a day

1027
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: and I'm fine, that's good, A right, buddy, good talking.

1028
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Speaker 1: I'll see you more. The volume