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Speaker 2: part one. We did our contender tiers on today's episode.

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Speaker 2: Nine teams count them DAN. Nine teams that we're going

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot to get through today. Again, the

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Speaker 2: nine teams Ohio State, Iowa, Minnesota, and Indiana on my side, Oregon, UCLA, Illinois, Northwestern,

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Speaker 2: and Michigan on your side. Michigan is that offending national champs.

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Speaker 2: They went fifteen to oh last season. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: What say you about the Michigan Wolverines in twenty two.

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Speaker 3: First, I'm going to turn my legal pad as somebody

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Speaker 3: ancient to my Michigan page. Okay, Michigan is in a

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Speaker 3: fascinating place. Right they finally break through coach leaves in

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Speaker 3: Michigan did not have to blitz a ton last year

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Speaker 3: whether it's Alex Orgy or somebody else, there's promising youth

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Speaker 3: But they're good. They're not as deep, They're not as

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Speaker 3: tough defenses. Beyond that, Texas and the non conference, yes,

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Speaker 1: Good. That's always good.

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Speaker 3: I think their schedule's fine. I like Michigan. The dangerous

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Speaker 3: they're gonna win double digit games. But that's a big

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Speaker 2: They're dangerous because of the defense. I think that goes

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Speaker 1: The offense is really where it's new.

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Speaker 2: It's Jj McCarthy leaving, it's the line completely new, it's

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Speaker 2: Blake Korum, it's the top two receivers.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of change there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, might be the best tight end in the conference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the better tight ends in the nation,

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Speaker 2: let alone the conference. You know there obviously is going

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Speaker 2: to be talent on team. They have recruited well, but

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Speaker 2: with this level of turnover, that gives me cause for pause.

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Speaker 1: My favorite pet charity.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I am as out on Michigan this year as

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Speaker 3: What does that mean? Record wise?

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Speaker 2: It means this is a nine and three or an

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Speaker 2: eight and fourteen, Okay, And I don't think that's a

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Speaker 2: bad thing. I think given the turnover that this program

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Speaker 2: be the final result. I don't think they're beating Texas.

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Speaker 3: At Illinois is interesting to me, depending on what Illinois

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's also a week before the Michigan

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: As good as I think Texas is going to be

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Speaker 2: And listen, also, me saying that I go eight and four,

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Speaker 1: Not sure if we can get it, We'll see. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Games yeah, you can out.

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Speaker 3: It's a different conference, and when you have Texas and

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Speaker 1: That's why I put them in my ten and two tier.

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Speaker 3: I know I hear it.

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Speaker 2: If I'm not feeling it. The over under, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Anywhere near it. But that's how Vegas feels about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's going to get creative with all these

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Speaker 3: Look at the running backs at Oregon, look at them,

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Speaker 2: Totally, and I do think this was a smart heeart.

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Speaker 2: You could argue that they upgraded with Bill O'Brien leaving

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Speaker 2: it remains in State from the top five defense that

435
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: we saw year ago. The secondary, I think is again loaded.

436
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 2: This is all a very very very long winded way

437
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: of saying this. I think you can write Ohio State

438
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: into your playoff with a sharpie marker sharpiek not a

439
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: sponsor could be. I don't see how they end up

440
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: anywhere other than the playoff this year. They need to

441
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: tweak the offense, we know that, but there's more than

442
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: enough AMO here to do it. There is no way

443
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 2: this team, as presently constructed, miss as the playoff. Even

444
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: if they lose two games. Even if they lose two games,

445
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: there's still going to be a strong contender for this thing.

446
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: And for as much as I'd love to look at

447
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: the schedule and say, Dan, here's a stake in the toilet,

448
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: beware of this team, Dan Rubinstein, Iowa, Nebraska Northwestern at

449
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: Wrigally Field, Like, I don't see any of those teams

450
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: being in the same class. Well, Ryan Day doesn't lose

451
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: those games, right, that's actually his thing.

452
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: I know? Is I know?

453
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 2: And that's sort of the point. Like I we know

454
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: where the spots are in the schedule. I can talk

455
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: about them next. But outside of the very obvious games

456
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: that could be trouble for Ohio State, the three that

457
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, nobody else is.

458
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: Even close to these guys.

459
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: Write them into the playoff, do it now. I'm not

460
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: even gonna put it in the volcano.

461
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: Take a tow.

462
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: I've got more takes for the volcano later, But it

463
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: doesn't even feel like a take to me. This team

464
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 2: is just that loaded.

465
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: And your guy you haven't even mentioned Jim Knowles yet.

466
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: Jim Knowles man. Jim Knowles knows how to coach up

467
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: a defense, Sir blitz a lot.

468
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's nothing you can look at talent wise

469
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: that is of real, real concern. Will Howard had a

470
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: down year last year. He wasn't great immediately when he

471
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: was at Kansas State, had the breakthrough year a couple

472
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 3: of years ago in relief for Adrian Martinez. That' sound

473
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: right at Kansas State and really fun offense. Guys developed

474
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: there nicely and will be even more loaded around him

475
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: depending on what this offensive line looks like. Still right,

476
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 3: you can only overcome so much. If the line in

477
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: front of you is average or below average, you.

478
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: Can only overcome so much. But again, what have they

479
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: done by getting Will Howard. They've gotten a guy who's

480
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: bigger and who's more mobile, and so if there are

481
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: some issues along the line in past protection, let's say

482
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: you can put them on the move. Chip's done that

483
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: in the past. We've seen Chip knows how to do

484
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: that more than anybody. Obviously, this would this would come

485
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: out in the run game if you've got issues up front. Again,

486
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 2: if they're the short yardage and red zone issues like

487
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: we saw a season ago. But I just feel like

488
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 2: with the high level talent they've got back there, and

489
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: with what else a defense has to contend with, it's

490
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: hard to pin these guys down. Maybe they're weak along

491
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: the line, but they're still going to be pretty damn good.

492
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: I just oh yeah, I don't see an obvious way

493
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: for anyone to break through and just shut this offense down.

494
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: That's just not going to happen.

495
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: I wonder what and this is much more about big

496
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: picture expectations than like, well this hamper them against Iowa

497
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 3: or Northwestern or whatever. I wonder what things are like

498
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. I wonder what things are like at

499
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: Ohio State. With Ryan Day obviously feeling the pressure. You

500
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 3: can look no further than the lou Holtz stuff from

501
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: last year. This guy's on edge. This guy is very

502
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: much on edge, adding in a big personality and Chip,

503
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: who I think Ryan d will happily defer to given

504
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: their history together. He knows how good Chip is at

505
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: looking at a defense and game plan, but bringing in

506
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: a couple of the big name transfers Judkins and Caleb

507
00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: Downs and knowing that from the second that that Miszoo

508
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: catastrophe of a bowl game for Ohio State ended, that

509
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: the spotlight, the magnifying glass, whatever you want to say,

510
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: has never been more powerful on Ohio State and Ryan

511
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: Day's Ohio State. And I wonder if that sort of

512
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: energy permeates things behind the scenes that everybody's on edge, right.

513
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wouldn't surprise me if that is the case,

514
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 2: and it will definitely be more the case. Let's put

515
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: it this way. If there isn't a breakthrough this year, yeah,

516
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: because it's there for him. It really is, Yeah, it

517
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: really is.

518
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 3: I know things seem to be from afar pretty acrimonious

519
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: quinch on Judkins leaving Ole miss and the way that

520
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 3: all went down, hopefully for his sake in Ohio state.

521
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: This is just a beautiful new home for everybody. But

522
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: you know, there are things like that that I'm paying

523
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: attention to.

524
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: It seems to me that it is a two horse

525
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: race at least at this juncture in early August for

526
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: the Big Ten title. And those two teams are a

527
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: high state we just mentioned and your Oregon Ducks, Oregon

528
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: new to the conference. I suspect I know how you

529
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 2: feel about the demise of the Pac twelve, but we

530
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: are where we are. You are now a Midwestern or

531
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: through and through your West Coast identity has faded with time. Unfortunately,

532
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to.

533
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Bed how do you feel about organ this year? Give

534
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: me the lowdown on Oregon.

535
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: Where are the week's can I do the Phil Still

536
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: Phil Steel thing. To understand this year's twenty twenty four

537
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 3: Oregon squad, you first have to start out with the

538
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Holiday Bowl team from two thousand and eight. It was

539
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: a simpler time. Zach Robinson, Des Bryant, Walter Thurman. The

540
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 3: third I have a stealis im in my previous summer. Yeah, okay,

541
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: so I feel great about Oregon. Uh interestingly enough, Right

542
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: if you're pairing Oregon in Ohio state, who am I

543
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: talking about here? With bringing back a number of crazy

544
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: talented players, adding in a high profile quarterback and a

545
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: coach who is dogged by losing repeatedly to his rival,

546
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: Right Am I talking Ryan Day or Dan Lanning?

547
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

548
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: Exactly. So Oregon's in a great place because I don't

549
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: think the pressure on Oregon, even with as much as

550
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: they've done in the portal and nil and they themselves

551
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: have made a big deal of going to the Big ten,

552
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: and rightfully so that there is pressure on Dan Lanning

553
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: at Oregon. Right he has been a very vocal figure,

554
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: you know, he's been very public figure to take this

555
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: next step and the pressure is on Oregon to do so.

556
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: But I don't think as much as Oregon. People hate

557
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: losing to Washington Michigan. Ohio State is different. It just

558
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: is different. So they're in at least a more luxurious

559
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: place that it's not make or break. In that same way,

560
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: Oregon is stacked on both sides of the ball. They

561
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 3: might not have the exact number of all Americans that

562
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: Ohio State has the potential to have. I think Oregon's

563
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: in a better place at quarterback with Dylan Gabriel. I

564
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 3: just think he's had more consistent success. The running back

565
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: room is stacked with Jordan James. Now. They had Jay Harris,

566
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: a D two running back, but Noah Whittington is back.

567
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 3: He got injured early last year. Evan Stewart comes in

568
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: at receiver. They bring back Tes Johnson, who was a

569
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: thousand yard receiver for them in the slot last year.

570
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: Speedy dude Terrence Ferguson the tight end who was All

571
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: Conference caliber last year. He decides to come back for

572
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: his senior year. Both tackles back, a rotation guy back

573
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: at center. Guards are one guards. One guard is back.

574
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: We have an Indiana transfer coming in. I say we

575
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: I'm not on the team. We all have the pleasure

576
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: of watching an Indiana right guard. Good recovery, thank you.

577
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 3: They're in a good spot. Depth is there at receiver

578
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: skill position. They've got intrigue intriguing young guys on offense.

579
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: Defense is interesting because they basically overhauled the entire secondary.

580
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: They have a safety back, they might have a cornerback.

581
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: He's got injured at the end of last season. I'm

582
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: not sure if he's back in full health. But bringing

583
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: in the transfers that they did highlighted by Jabar Mohammad

584
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: from Washington certainly all conference caliber last year. Could be

585
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: an All American caliber guy at lockdown corner. They bring

586
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: in dudes in the secondary, they're deeper there. They've recruited

587
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: well there. Linebackers should be good but thin. And if

588
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: there's a point that I'm going to look at, or

589
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: a couple different points from like if a guy gets hurt,

590
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: I know you've mentioned this with Dylan Gabriel. If a

591
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: guy gets hurt between the two starting linebackers or one

592
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: of the guards on the offensive line, that's from like

593
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: there might be a drop off we're about to see.

594
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: There might be dudes picked on and pushed around a

595
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: little bit at linebacker or the inside of this offensive line,

596
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: the D line, they've recruited super deep there. The edge

597
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: is back. They lose a little bit of beef, but

598
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: they bring in some beef from Michigan State and Houston,

599
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: so they're deep pretty much everywhere other than the inside

600
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: of that offensive line and linebacker. I trust Dan Lanning.

601
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: He needs to win bigger games, right We saw it

602
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: last year with how he went forward in those high

603
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: leverage moments against Washington and Seattle, and then the start

604
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: of the Pac twelve championship game in Vegas was disastrous

605
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: on offense, Like they just looked lost, and for a

606
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: team of this caliber, they can't if they're looking to.

607
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean, the next step for Oregon is not just

608
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: making the playoff, it's probably winning a playoff game with

609
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: what this roster looks like. So they need to be

610
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: in that final four, if not final two nationally to

611
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: really have a proof of concept moment for Dan Lanning.

612
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: How they've recruited and their schedule looks fine, honestly, like

613
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: their biggest game is at home in Autson. The non

614
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: conference portion of their schedule, it's just a different look

615
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: Oregon State team with where they are in terms of

616
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: the Pac two status, Boise State should be decent, but

617
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're of Oregon's caliber. Famous last words,

618
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: Oregon does not have good history with Boise State. And

619
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: honestly like they're in a good place. Like you look

620
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: across this schedule and it's great. They have the Washington

621
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: game at home. I know they have a Friday night game.

622
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: I think both Purdue and Michigan State are Friday night

623
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: games if they take care of business, which they have

624
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: done more and more under Dan Lanning. Other than those

625
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: huge games they miss us, they missed Penn State. It's

626
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: pretty good.

627
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: Per friend Bill Connolly, last year was the best Oregon

628
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: team ever since he's been doing his sp plus.

629
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: They led the nation in points per drive offense. They

630
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: had the most efficient scoring offense in America.

631
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: It was a good season.

632
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: It was a twelve and two season, marked of course

633
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: by those losses to Washington, but.

634
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: Won the bowl game.

635
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they loaded up, right, they went out,

636
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: They loaded up. They brought in guys that I think

637
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: can make that offense better, can make that defense better.

638
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: It is clearly a hot program right now that has

639
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: a ton of momentum.

640
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: The question for me, truly is.

641
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: What happens if Dylan Gabriel goes down again, because he's

642
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: been He's not been the most bulletproof from an injury

643
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: standpoint over the course of his career. I think Oregon

644
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: is fine at quarterback, and whether it's Dante more or

645
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: anybody else, they will have enough around that quarterback to

646
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: continue winning and playing at a highlight level. The truth

647
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: of the matter is the schedule. Most of the teams

648
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: in the schedule are seven and five, eight and four

649
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: at best. A couple headliners that you can look at

650
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: and you, Sarah, we know that that's going to be

651
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: a big game, But beyond that, most of these opponents

652
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 2: seem very very beatable. So again, if I'm looking at

653
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: Oregon and I see ten and a half over under,

654
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm touching the over under per se,

655
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: but this is another team that I'm maybe not writing

656
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: into the playoff in sharpie, but at least writing them

657
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: in with a number two pencil.

658
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's right.

659
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: It feels like this is a playoff team. To me,

660
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if they aren't there.

661
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: I agree, their November isn't nothing just because it's at

662
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: Michigan Maryland at Wisconsin sort of deeper into November and

663
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: a bye week before hosting Washington. That's talent. Like those

664
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: are good, if not pretty good, if not very strong

665
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: teams to finish out the air. But I think they

666
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: have depth like they have not had. So the danger

667
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: with Oregon, right, the danger what makes them dangerous to

668
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: everybody else is that it's kind of more of the

669
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: same from last season and two fourth downs go their way, right,

670
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: like a couple of decisions go their way, and it's

671
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: more of the same, and you know, it's a great

672
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: home field advantage at Audson Stadium for hosting maybe the

673
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: biggest game of the season nationally when Ohio State visits,

674
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: and they're in danger. If to me, it's those two

675
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: groups that will decide the ceiling of this team, the

676
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: inside of that offensive line, in the linebacking corps, because

677
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: I think the depth is there everywhere else.

678
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: Should be one of the better teams in college football.

679
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: I think. And Dylan Gabriel is the current Heisman front runner.

680
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: He should be if he was about a month ago.

681
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should be near the top. If he's not

682
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: at the top.

683
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: I think he could have a stupid good year like

684
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: I think he could have. He could build on what

685
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: bo Nicks did. I don't think he's gonna be as

686
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: accurate as bo Nicks, but with how much he loves

687
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: going down the field and bow Knicks, if there were

688
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: one area to nitpick, it was his reticence and accuracy

689
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: at times going downfield. Dylan Gabriel might not have as

690
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: strong in terms of pure what is it in baseball

691
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: that they call it the pitching, the ball rotations, Oh,

692
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: the spin rate, the spin rate. His spin rate might

693
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: not be where bone Nicks was, but he loves chucking

694
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: it deep. It's a big old moon ball, but he

695
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: loves it. So I think Oregon's gonna test a lot

696
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: of teams speed wise downfield this year. It'll be interesting.

697
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: You've got Oregon over Ohio State. I've got Ohio State

698
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: over Oregon. Coming out of the big ten yeap from

699
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: one great offense to another, Let's talk about the Iowah.

700
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: Hawk guys in twenty twenty four, Dan Rubinstein.

701
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: Keep that electric offensive train going, keep it going. Ten

702
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: and four last season, they did notably get shut out

703
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: by Penn State, Michigan and Tennessee in the bowl game.

704
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, got to point that out.

705
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: With those all the ranked teams that they played, or

706
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: do they play anybody else ranked? Did they score any

707
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: points against ranked teams?

708
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: I don't believe they did.

709
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: We'll have our fact checker, a professional fact checker that

710
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: we pay full time money to check for us. Continue.

711
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Speaker 2: So per the sp plus, Iowa had the fourth worst

712
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: off and the third best defense last season. I cannot

713
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: remember in our history of calling out half teams a

714
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: more dramatic half team than that. It was remarkable. The

715
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: context for it was even more ridiculous because there was

716
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: this whole thing at the start of the year with

717
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: Brian Farrence, the coach's son, the offensive coordinator. If he

718
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: doesn't get to twenty five points per game, he's going

719
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: to lose his job. I still, for the life of me,

720
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: have no idea how that became public. Somebody leaked that,

721
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: of course, to make a fool out of the farences.

722
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: However it happened, I salute you. It gave us content,

723
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: It gave everybody content. They didn't get anywhere near twenty

724
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: five points per game. They got to fifteen points per game.

725
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: Fell just a bit short. Okay, Now, to be fair,

726
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: the injuries did not help, notably Kid McNamara going down

727
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: five games into the year. Luke Liche Eric All also

728
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: got hurt at tight end. Plenty of other guys in

729
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: this team that got hurt. By the end of the year,

730
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: they're playing Deacon Hill at quarterback and pretty much counting

731
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: on Cooper dejen to make a defensive player a special

732
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: team's play to score some points.

733
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: But that was it.

734
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: That was the entirety of the Iowa quote unquote offense

735
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: last season.

736
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: Can we can we take just like three seconds? Cooper

737
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: Degen just incredible all time IOWA performer. Continue now with

738
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: the Eagles, Now, oh that's right, So what do they do?

739
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: Well?

740
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: They got rid of ference Brian Farrens, that is, and

741
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: they brought in Tim Lester after a search that involved

742
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of names. Kevin Johns, I remember, was a

743
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 2: name that was rumored maybe to be taking that job,

744
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: but they ultimately settle on Tim Lester, formally the coach

745
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: of Western Michigan, to come in and run this thing.

746
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 2: I did a lot of research on how he might

747
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: tweak the IOWA system. Dan you and I talked with

748
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: Scott Doctrman of the Athletic for an episode that we

749
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: have yet to release that I hope we can release

750
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: at some point before the start of the year. Talking

751
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: specifically about Iowa won't give too much away there.

752
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: It's our Wu Tang Martin Screwlly episode. We will release it.

753
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: It'll be one million dollars on golden vinyl. Continue What

754
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: is this offense going to look like? Talk to people,

755
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: Read what others had to say. The consensus seems to

756
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: be more motion, what else, more shotgun, basically more of

757
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: the common stuff that everybody else has been doing for

758
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: a generation.

759
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 4: Now.

760
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not suddenly going to switch this thing on

761
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: and go run and shoot. They're just going to tweak,

762
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: stay generally within the system, but make some modifications so

763
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: that it's more modern and honestly, with the personnel that

764
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: they have, I don't think they could do anything drastic.

765
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: I think they kind of have to stay relatively close

766
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: to where they've been relatively being the operative word, it

767
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: will be more modernized. I like the tim Lester higher.

768
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: Each time I read more about what he did and

769
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: what he plans to do, I came away feeling a

770
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: little bit more optimistic about this. But that being said,

771
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: famous last words. When you say the Iowa offense can't

772
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: get any worse, right, that's true. So what I like

773
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: about this is Tim Lester seems eager to adjust a

774
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: scheme to fit the personnel. He's not going to try

775
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: and fit him into a box that doesn't work. We

776
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: know the kind of personnel they have on hand. There's

777
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: like ten starters back on offense, a lot of continuity

778
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: in some sense, veteran leadership, and another a new offensive

779
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: coordinator who seems less rigid and is going to at

780
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: least install something that makes it feel more modern. This team,

781
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: you're going to laugh at me. This team could be

782
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: dangerous if they can get to be like the eightieth.

783
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: Best offense in the country.

784
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: That's not funny. If they just improve that much, it's

785
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: a conversation we've had the last eleven years.

786
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: I know, marginal improvement.

787
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, get to like eighty second on offense behind this defense,

788
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 2: that would make them damn dangerous. In twenty twenty four,

789
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: defense is going to be outstanding again. But it's a

790
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: question of offense question With Iowa, they're all roundered.

791
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: By the way, is eight okay? Now?

792
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: Different point? Obviously, if they can't jump start the offense,

793
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: they're in.

794
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: The same boat. That's why they'd be in danger.

795
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: More specifically, I think there's some danger if they can't

796
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: get the line to play better, which I mentioned on

797
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: the last episode. One of the things that Scott called

798
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: out when we had this long conversation with him about

799
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: Iowa and its state of play and all that was

800
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: the line and.

801
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: The trend line pointed in the wrong direction.

802
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: With respect to the offensive line being a fundamental building

803
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: block of the whole campaign, it has not performed up

804
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: to standard recently. They need to figure something out up there.

805
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a function of the scheme. Maybe the scheme

806
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: is a function.

807
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: Of the line.

808
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: Either way, they are obviously interrelated, and if they can't

809
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: get better play out of their offensive line, that could,

810
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 2: on some level, will derail whatever Tim Wester is trying

811
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: to do on offense.

812
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: Agree, I have no questions about the defense.

813
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm not even really going to talk about it. I

814
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: think the defense is gonna be damn good again. Return

815
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: a ton a lot back. Defense is never an issue

816
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: for Iowa. But offense. Cad McNamara's back, he's healthy, He's

817
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: going to be rehabbing from his own injury all the

818
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: way up until the start of camp or maybe even

819
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: the season. So it's going to be I don't think

820
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: it's a Cam Rising situation, thankfully, but it's it's progressing

821
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: as quickly as it can and he should be ready

822
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: to go for the time the season rolls around.

823
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, this it's going to sound counterintuitive because of

824
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: the number of guys that IOWA has put into the

825
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: NFL along that offensive line, and you mentioned that it

826
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: all sort of starts there more specifically with IOWA than

827
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: most programs, Like you know, we've had like the Stanfords

828
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: over the year that you know, they just want to

829
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: play this bullyball. But when IOWA has like two or

830
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: three NFL caliber guys on the line, when there is

831
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: Tyler Linderbaum and Tristan Wurf's and you go back like

832
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: Marshall Yanda, like Robert Gallery, Robert Gallery, Brian Blaga, you

833
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: can go on and on, but when they have those guys,

834
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: it makes it more excusable that this is like, you know,

835
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: the zone running scheme and I know the rules have

836
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: changed and stuff like that, where you're like you can

837
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: get away with more like sure your offense isn't great,

838
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: but if you're just punishing dudes, for four straight quarters

839
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: behind these like really well developed mammoths, then there's no

840
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: pressure on you. But if you only find decent ones, right,

841
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: if you're not finding first round caliber or not even

842
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: finding but like developing into and having the I four

843
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: and you know, trying to sell yourself as like O

844
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: line you nationally like, if they're only decent, then everything

845
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: falls apart. And so that, to me is going to

846
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: be the big question is like what is the marriage like,

847
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: Like if you're imagining a pie chart between Tim Lester

848
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: and Kirk Farrens, I'm like, are we running lester ball

849
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: or we're running Farens Ball? And to what extent and

850
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: who's making those decisions? And what happens when you go

851
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: down seven early? Are you paying? Are you just? Are

852
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: you trusting that you're playing lester ball? Right? That to

853
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: me is the central crux of where I was going

854
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: to be this year on offense.

855
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: I would urge people who are interested in this to

856
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: go out and read more on Tim Lester and his

857
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: philosophies and some of the things that he said going

858
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: into the season, because I think it's encouraging. I think

859
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: he's saying a lot of the right stuff, But to

860
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: your point. Yeah, is it Lester? Is it Ference? Is

861
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: it a happy marriage between the two? Is Kirk Ference

862
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: going to still try and exude some control over this offense?

863
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: That remains to be seen. We'll find out the schedule

864
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: for what it's worth.

865
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: Beautiful, It's a beautiful schedule.

866
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: Toughest games are at home against Iowa State non conference

867
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: game of week two, and then Ohio State in week six,

868
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: which they have a bye before, Yeah, which I have

869
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: a buye before, thank you. Otherwise though they have Troy,

870
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: They're at Minnesota. They lost to Minnesota last year, but

871
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: they're at Minnesota this year. They played Washington, They're at

872
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: Michigan State, Northwestern Wisconsin, at UCLA Maryland, Nebraska.

873
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: It seems very workable. The over is eight. I am

874
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: all in, really wartis why births.

875
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: I love the Iowa over eight here, I really do.

876
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm putting my faith in Tim Lester in this offense.

877
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: Potential look ahead spot for Ohio State getting Iowa the

878
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: week before that Oregon game. I know, and I was

879
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: on by before. Yeah, Okay, I mean, and I don't

880
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 3: hate that. I don't hate that. But it's a swing.

881
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: It's still a swing because of the changes, but doesn't matter.

882
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: They just keep winning nine or ten games. They keep

883
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 3: winning nine er ten games. And also, if you bet

884
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 3: the over eight, they can still go eight in four.

885
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: And you're not gonna lose your bet. Just get your

886
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: money back.

887
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't see this as a five lost IOWA team,

888
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: not with this defense and not against the schedule here.

889
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: I just I'm not seeing that at all. So mark

890
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: me down as an IOWA believer in twenty twenty four.

891
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: Are we going next?

892
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: Next up, Dan Rubinstein, Let's talk about another newcomer.

893
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about UCLA.

894
00:43:59,239 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: All right.

895
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm my UCLA legal pad page beautiful. I put UCLA

896
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: in my shrug emoji tier. I have no idea what

897
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: to expect from this team because there's a fair amount

898
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: back but obvious turnover in the coaching staff. The Sean

899
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: Foster maybe did not instill confidence with his introductory press

900
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: conference at Big ten MEETIA.

901
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: He bounced back, all right, Okay, he bounced back.

902
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: Okay, he steered into it. He showed he's guys.

903
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: Since I'm you know, yeah, I'm okay with Sean Foster.

904
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: And I think he was definitely a popular hire given

905
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: his connection to that program. He had worked there recently

906
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: as a running backs coach, was obviously a running back

907
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: there back in his playing days as well. So he's

908
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: somebody that UCLA fans are are comfortable with on some level.

909
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: How comfortable should we be that he can take a

910
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: step forward now in the wake of chip Kelly.

911
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 3: Not crazy comfortable, but things weren't always great with chip

912
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: Kelly at UCLA. There were issues there, namely on the

913
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: recruiting side of things. I think he can be decent,

914
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: and I don't know exactly what that means in a

915
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: new look Big ten, especially when it's what a an

916
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: LSU Oregon Penn State boom boom boom. Relatively early on.

917
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: They just get mauled with that schedule.

918
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough it's a tough ass. Yeah. Schedule wise,

919
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: it's you know, at Rutgers and at Nebraska in the

920
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: middle part, and that's before Iowa Washington USC and like

921
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: always fear the week after rivalry game. No this year

922
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: it's Fresno, No chef Jeff Tedford, Fresno. But all the same,

923
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: they should be a pretty good team. I didn't go

924
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: into my my preview studying loving UCLA, and I may

925
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 3: not love Ucla after Week one or something, but they

926
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: do return a decent amount, especially on offense. Now the

927
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: star power has gone, especially Latu Latu coming off of

928
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: the edge for that Ucla defense. But I think with TJ.

929
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: Harden with a couple of decent receivers, Ethan Garber's I

930
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: think is fine. He's pretty good started out his career.

931
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: I think at Washington, I think they can be serviceable.

932
00:45:59,440 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: Now.

933
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: The question with the offense is Eric b enemy college

934
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator again in the college game, after a lot

935
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: of success with the Chiefs, Like, is he going to

936
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: be okay with not having pator malmes?

937
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 4: Right?

938
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 3: Is he going to be okay with trying to maximize

939
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: what he has, not lamenting what he doesn't. The offensive

940
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: line will be okay. It got to a pretty good

941
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: place under Chip. We'll see. There's just a lot of

942
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: turnover with this team, and so I think they're gonna

943
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: be pretty good beef wise on defense, but not as

944
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: good on the edge. They have okay linebackers, the secondary

945
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: is in a pretty good spot. Lost a couple key dudes.

946
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: I just I feel like they're gettable through the air, though.

947
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: I worry about the pass rush. That's a big thing

948
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: for me.

949
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I whether it's the pass rush or just the

950
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: secondary as a whole. I was looking at this and

951
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: thinking they're gettable through the air, and there are a

952
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: bunch of teams in the schedule that can throw it

953
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: correct and that's my cause for pause right there.

954
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think schedule wise, they're just going to take hits,

955
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 3: and so.

956
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

957
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: Man, we mentioned LSU, Oregon, Penn State. In terms of

958
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: other quarterbacks, like obviously talented quarterbacks, we'll see with Curtis

959
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: Rourke early, like Rutgers Nebraska, it's a freshman whatever that means.

960
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: With Dylan Royol, it's Kate McNamara. Will Rodgers will be decent.

961
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: USC should throw the ball well, but they handled USC

962
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: fine last year. I just don't think they have a

963
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: lot of quarterback or killer quarterbacks on this schedule to

964
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: fully take advantage. So they go with the bowl when

965
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: they go eight and five last year they're a seven

966
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: and five team. I think we're talking about a Bowl

967
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: eligible UCLA team late in the year, like I think

968
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: they should be around six and six. Seven and five

969
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 3: five is the over under, Okay. I don't hate taking

970
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: the over. I have them at probably six and six,

971
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: so that does count as going over, but probably disappointing

972
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: in the eyes of UCLA fans. Okay, the danger is

973
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: that things work out up front them both sides of

974
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: the and uh, they're able to get into a rhythm

975
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: early and maybe win one or two, probably one of

976
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: those games like steal it against It's at Penn State,

977
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: I believe, and then at LSU. The organ game is

978
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: gonna be tough. But if they can steal one of those,

979
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: then you're like, Okay, they're gonna make a ball. Easier

980
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 3: said than done, but I could see somebody looking past them.

981
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got a lot to say about Minnesota.

982
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I do.

983
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: Run just five.

984
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: There is some context here, and if you'd like to

985
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: go and take a snack, you can do that.

986
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: You got a one man show about the Gophers, Well

987
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: I do.

988
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm I'm fascinated with this team. Hold on,

989
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on a variety of reasons.

990
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: Tie you ma, tie you ma. I'm pretty good. I

991
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: have something better. Oh that I'm going to trot it

992
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: out here? Is that a thousand bro nicknames.

993
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: By better, I mean decidedly worse. But it's more of

994
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 2: a mantra than a nickname. Okay, so here's the context

995
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: of Minnesota two straight nine and four seasons before twenty

996
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: twenty three, which was a pretty big step back for

997
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: the program. They were five to three headed into November.

998
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: They lost their last four games and finished five and seven.

999
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: There weren't enough bowl teams, which meant that Minnesota qualified

1000
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: for the postseason because they had the highest academic progress

1001
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: rate among teams that finished five and seven. Great to

1002
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: go to a bowl game. Great that you're making progress

1003
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: where it counts in academics.

1004
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: However, great from a football standpoint left a little bit

1005
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: to be desired. Did win the Quick Laying.

1006
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: Bowl over Bowling Green finished the year six and seven.

1007
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: Great last year in particular, there were two overarching issues

1008
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: that need to be rectified this year. The first, the

1009
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: offense stunk. It stunk last season. The preseason thought, and

1010
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: I remember this well because we did the preview and

1011
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: we heard from other Minnesota fans out there. The preseason

1012
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: thought was that it was going to be built more

1013
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: around eight and caliak Manus in the pass. Remember that

1014
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: they wanted to go a little bit heavier on the

1015
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: passing side of things.

1016
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: Didn't take.

1017
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: They ended up running it sixty two percent of the time,

1018
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: which was fifth nationally in terms of run heavy offenses.

1019
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: They ran the ball more than we expected they were

1020
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: going to. Some of the offensive stats that came out

1021
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: as a result of this are downright painful.

1022
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: And I almost feel guilty because.

1023
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: We met people in Minnesota and they're the friendliest folk

1024
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 2: you could ever imagine in this great land of ours. Wow,

1025
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: but I need to mention it. Okay, this is where

1026
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: they were last season. They went three and out about

1027
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: thirty five percent of the time, which is a lot

1028
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: lot near the bottom of all FBS in terms of explosiveness.

1029
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: Bad in the red zone, and this is key. A

1030
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: really low success rate on all things offense, combined with

1031
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: playing very slowly. Those last two things are important. They

1032
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: don't necessarily dictate one another, but if you take them

1033
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: in tandem, poor success rates on your plays and play

1034
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: and slow as hell.

1035
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: That affects the vibe, does it not?

1036
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 2: If you're watching at home, it's like pounding your head

1037
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: against the wall. That is tough to watch, and Minnesota

1038
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: was tough to watch on offense last season. Oh, by

1039
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: the way, just for an extra kick in the pants.

1040
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: They only covered the spread twenty five.

1041
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: Percent of the time. Yikes. That is a pooh pooh

1042
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: platter of offense if I've ever seen one.

1043
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: The second thing is this defense was extremely young and

1044
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: also took a step back, albeit not as much as

1045
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: the offense, but very young, not as good as they

1046
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: have been as we've grown accustomed to them being.

1047
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 3: I agree.

1048
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: Something else that shows up in the numbers in a vacuum.

1049
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: Not a lot of defensive stats that blow you away.

1050
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: Here.

1051
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: The indicators like the havoc rates, the third down defense,

1052
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: things like that all pointed kind of in the wrong direction. Collectively,

1053
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: not a bad unit, they just weren't as good as

1054
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: we were used to. And then Joe Rossi left, he

1055
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: went to Michigan State. As we talked about in part one,

1056
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: that's the context. So now we come into this season.

1057
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota's got a lot back. They are dangerous on defense,

1058
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: full stop, nineteenth in returning production across the board, but

1059
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: they're led by defense, which has the majority of its

1060
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: too deep back and I like the notable exception being

1061
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: Tyler Nuban safety you got drafted. They're going to miss

1062
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: it really good.

1063
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: But otherwise my hunches They're set up for a pretty

1064
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: good step forward the caveat They've got a new defensive coordinator,

1065
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: Corey Heatherman from Rutgers. He's gonna play you guessed it,

1066
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: the aggressive attacking defense that every care plays, but more

1067
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: forman fronts.

1068
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: Like they all kind of say the same thing.

1069
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: But I like their line. I like John Joyner, I

1070
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: like Danny Stragohl on the line. I really like the

1071
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 2: linebacking court's one of the best in the conferences. If

1072
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: they can generate more pressure than last year, there is

1073
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: a good chance that this defense is really good against

1074
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 2: this particular schedule.

1075
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: I mean, how many teams can you say that about them?

1076
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: You can say it about a lot, But when you're

1077
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: this good in the front seven and they play this

1078
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: many teams that are uncertain on offense doesn't mean they'll

1079
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: be bad, but they're certainly certainly certainly uncertain on offense

1080
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: going into the year. I think they're set up for success.

1081
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 2: It does come down to the offense, though. Yeah, it's

1082
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: not really been a defensive question for Minnesota.

1083
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: Dan it's offense.

1084
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 2: They got four guys back from an okay offensive line.

1085
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: They bring back Darius Taylor, who was the sophomore running back,

1086
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: led the team with eight hundred rushing guards.

1087
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: Get this, in only five times.

1088
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: He was one of like the five best running backs

1089
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: in the nation in September, and then I think he

1090
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: had a big Bowl game, right and it was his

1091
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 3: usual kind of nothing in between.

1092
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: Because of eight hundred yards in five games, Yeah, pretty good.

1093
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: Daniel Jackson also back, he's the senior wide receiver. He

1094
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: had a really good year on that bad offense, finished

1095
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: with one hundred and ten targets. So to have the

1096
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: year he had and that many targets in an offense

1097
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: that was broken and everybody knew that if they were

1098
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: throwing it it was to him, Yeah, I'd say that's

1099
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: pretty good.

1100
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. I would go a step further. And

1101
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: those are very low key the best receivers in the country.

1102
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: That they are putting up numbers. They are making plays

1103
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: in an offense that should.

1104
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: It's telegraphed, it's telegraft And for.

1105
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: That reason, I think when you look across this country,

1106
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 3: this conference, the combo of Darius Taylor and Daniel Jackson

1107
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: killer DS is to me one of the more underrated

1108
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: or not spoken of enough by us. I'm sure just

1109
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 3: because of what they're able to accomplish with little help.

1110
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: And so yeah, as long as they're not bringing in

1111
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 3: a quarterback from like New Hampshire Vermont, I think they'll

1112
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 3: be fine.

1113
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: Ah.

1114
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: Yes, as long as it's not like some sort of

1115
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: FCS guy.

1116
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1117
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 3: I obviously am kidding. Yeah, here we go.

1118
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: So they got good building blocks on offense. But this

1119
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: is where the transfers come in. My mantra this year

1120
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: from Minnesota football is bros before nos.

1121
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm willing to give you an opportunity.

1122
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: Bros before nose, Dan, Before you go out on a

1123
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: limb and say no to this Minnesota team, we first

1124
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: need to see what Max Brosmer, the transfer quarterback from

1125
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, how dare you be smirched the great state

1126
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: of New Hampshire. We need to see what he can do.

1127
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: He threw for over eighty seven hundred yards at New Hampshire,

1128
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 2: was the leading passer in all of FCS a year ago.

1129
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: He's got I watched a lot of Max Brosmer clips.

1130
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 3: He's got a little.

1131
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: Bit of Baker Mayfield in him, with his release, with

1132
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: his release, with the way throws the ball. He doesn't

1133
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: improvise quite as well. But if you watch him throw

1134
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 2: the football, you're gonna say, I could see it.

1135
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: But he can run.

1136
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: Quarterback transfers, as we know, do not always hit, especially

1137
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: the ones that step up a level.

1138
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: It is not a given. And that this guy is

1139
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: just gonna come and pop.

1140
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean, not only is it not a given, there's

1141
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: been like one point seven dudes who've actually done it.

1142
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: I know, listen, I know, Okay, maybe I'm pumping a

1143
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: little too much sunshine, but whatever. Okay, all I can

1144
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: say is from what I saw from the system, he

1145
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: is stepping into It feels like he checks a lot

1146
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: of boxes. And if that pop happens, Minnesota is easily

1147
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 2: going over five wins.

1148
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: Okay easily.

1149
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: And given that we've got a guy out wide who

1150
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 2: we like, a running back who we like, if in fact,

1151
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: they can find another weapon out wide, if somebody else

1152
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: can step up, suddenly Minnesota becomes way more dangerous offensively,

1153
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: certainly than last year, but perhaps more so than anybody

1154
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: saw coming in twenty twenty four.

1155
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: Does Minnesota have Dartmouth on the schedule. They have the

1156
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: Great Danes of Albany on the schedule. Luckily, they don't

1157
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: have Villanova did not have a good game against No

1158
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 3: last year. Through three picks. It'd be cool story if

1159
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: it works. It doesn't work basically. Ever, if not, sometimes

1160
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: if he's Vernon Adams. Vernon Adams played against Oregon State

1161
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 3: and Washington and put up huge numbers against him, had

1162
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: great games before in Oregon Oregon. Also following that up

1163
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 3: with Dakota Prukop who was benched four games.

1164
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: In bros before NOS. Remember that.

1165
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so do you think Max it's Max Brosmer? You

1166
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: think he's him?

1167
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: I like the clips I saw. We haven't seen him

1168
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: play at the FBS level, Okay. And that's not to

1169
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: say I'm a scout. People listening to this show, you

1170
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: know I'm not a scout. I'm wrong more than I'm right.

1171
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: But I like him.

1172
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: He looks legit to me. He seemed to know where

1173
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: to go at the football and was decisive in the

1174
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: clips I saw of him in New Hampshire.

1175
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: I was going to go down the road of trying

1176
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: to make a pun with bro him because that is

1177
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: a famous song from the band penny Wise. But I

1178
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 3: don't know how many deep penny Wise heads we have

1179
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: listening to this, I mean not enough for sure. They

1180
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: might be in the one of the Tony Hawk games.

1181
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: So maybe people know pennywise from that.

1182
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: Oh they're definitely.

1183
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: It's brow him like h y m n. So okay,

1184
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 3: I bros.

1185
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: Before nose, I could see six and six, I could

1186
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: see seven and five. I go all the way up

1187
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: to eight and four. I don't see five and seven again.

1188
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: So I am in on the over five for Minnesota.

1189
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm putting that in the volcano. But the one I'm

1190
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: really putting in the volcano.

1191
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: Oh bartikes, why births.

1192
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: I've got Minnesota knocking off USC at home in week

1193
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 2: six after Michigan.

1194
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, after Minnesota plays.

1195
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: The road Sandwich game that you mentioned, right, yep, that's

1196
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: ce in between those two bigger games.

1197
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in. I am in on Minnesota knocking off USC.

1198
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: Calling it now.

1199
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: I like that.

1200
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: I appreciate it all.

1201
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: My shot, man, I'm calling my shot. Yeah, I just

1202
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: I think that's an advantageous spot. Technically it is between

1203
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: Mish in Penn State, but it's Michigan on the road,

1204
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: then back home against Wisconsin, then on the road against

1205
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: Minnesota before they host Penn State. So just bigger and

1206
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: no disrespect to Minnesota, but bigger name programs that are

1207
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: the bread of this Golden Gopher upset stand Wow.

1208
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: What so what what's the win total number that would

1209
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: actually surprise you? Like if they went eight and four,

1210
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: you're like, I didn't have that or nine three, eight four,

1211
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: nine and three would surprise the hell out. Okay, Well,

1212
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: they opened with one of the more interesting Big Ten

1213
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: matchups oh nationally. So they play North Carolina right to

1214
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: open the season.

1215
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: They do, they do it and by the way, that's

1216
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: an interesting bell weather.

1217
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: For lost that game last year in Chapel Hill. Yeah,

1218
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 3: it's a.

1219
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: Really interesting bell weather for both these schools.

1220
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: So I'm I I did not expect to be this

1221
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: high in Minnesota and we have had the conversation many

1222
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: times over about how Minnesota, we thought, at one point

1223
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: in time missed its window.

1224
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: Remember that.

1225
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: I feel really good about this team this year. They

1226
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: got to get better at like stopping the run on defense.

1227
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: There are some things to fix there, but there's a

1228
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: lot back.

1229
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: It's just bros before nose man.

1230
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: That's the mantra in twenty four four nose but that's

1231
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: it's not n os but it's catchy.

1232
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: It is catchy.

1233
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: I like tay Yuma the best. Tell you Ma's pretty

1234
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: good too.

1235
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: I'll go with that too.

1236
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: I'm okay, I'm in next team.

1237
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: We got three.

1238
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: We got three teams left here. Unfortunately they're not in

1239
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: our top tiers, but each of them have interest.

1240
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: Alike, Okay, who are you going?

1241
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: I want you to give me the lowdown on the

1242
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: great State of Illinois, Illinois and Northwestern.

1243
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: Dan flipping the legal pad. Okay, Illinois goes five and seven.

1244
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 3: Last year a disappointing year. The defense fell off somewhat

1245
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 3: because of injury and somewhat because they just you know,

1246
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 3: Devin Witherspoon. They'd like they lose star power to the

1247
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: draft a couple of years ago. So the disappointing thing

1248
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: with Illinois last year to me was the line is

1249
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: was not near where a Burt line should be. They

1250
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: developed a couple of interesting dudes at receiver, one of

1251
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 3: them who's also gone now Isaiah Williams, not Jews, but

1252
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: the other Isaiah Williams. He was great playmaker for the

1253
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 3: Ali and I and they just they lost in different

1254
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 3: dumb ways and they didn't have the talent, especially on offense,

1255
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: especially at quarterback. Last year. I think Luke Kaldmeyer was

1256
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: pretty beat up, you know, not an excuse, a lot

1257
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: of people are hurt, but like they just weren't able

1258
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: to do a ton. He was a lot better as

1259
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: a runner than he was as a thrower. And I

1260
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 3: think there's an opportunity this year with Illinois, which we

1261
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: mentioned on part one of our Big Ten preview, that

1262
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: they were aggressive in the portal and not just like

1263
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: hey we got a you know, a linebacker from Texas

1264
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: State or something. They you know, Terrence Brooks is at

1265
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: his best. Hey, I think a good corner, a good

1266
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 3: Power Conference corner. As Akari Franklin was very good at UTSA,

1267
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 3: didn't do anything at ole Miss last year, but reunited

1268
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 3: with his old offensive coordinator from UTSA now at Illinois.

1269
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 3: These past couple seasons, Illinois in an interesting spot, right.

1270
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: They want to win in a very specific way. They

1271
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 3: want to punish you with their offensive line. They want

1272
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: to have a fast, aggressive defense. Don't we all tie?

1273
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: We all want that aggressive attacking defense. Dan.

1274
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 3: What it is is a depth thing for Illinois. Like

1275
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 3: I think they're presume they lost one of their running

1276
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 3: backs I think to Purdue, but they're presume starting running

1277
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 3: back Cayden Figan. Like he's a load, He's a good back.

1278
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a great back. I don't

1279
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 3: know if he's one of the five best backs in

1280
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: this conference. But at his best, he can be a

1281
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: problem for a lot of teams on this schedule. I

1282
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: think the receivers are pretty good. They're counting on you know,

1283
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: more transfer beef on the defensive line, but like they

1284
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 3: have proven playmakers on this on this defense, and so

1285
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: it was an internal hire to replace Ryan Walters a

1286
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 3: year ago Aaron Henry, and so this defense needs to

1287
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: improve a ton. Now, the question with Illinois is can

1288
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 3: you score thirty game? Can you score twenty eight a game?

1289
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 3: What is it going to take to sort of make

1290
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 3: a dent in what is now going to be a

1291
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 3: more difficult schedule. And it's difficult this year. So it's

1292
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 3: Kansas at Nebraska, at Penn State, Michigan at Oregon, and

1293
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 3: they finished at Northwestern. That game is in Wrigley, And

1294
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: so the number of like obviously winnable games for a

1295
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: decently improved Illinois team stands at like six seven right that, Like,

1296
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a true drive to six year

1297
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: for Illinois.

1298
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: We're back to the drive for six.

1299
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: I think we're back in a big way, and it's

1300
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 3: just because I think the best of Luke Altmeyer is interesting.

1301
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 3: But like, I don't think you're going to watch this

1302
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: passing attack and think to yourself as an eight win team.

1303
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 3: I think they can spoil like I mentioned with the

1304
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: Michigan situation where they get them on the schedule, but

1305
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: like they should be able. They lost to Kansas last

1306
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 3: year and Lawrence, they should be able to make that

1307
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: a game and maybe even steal it, right if if

1308
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: the defense is in a decent spot, because I think

1309
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 3: you can run directly at Kansas's defense. So I just

1310
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: I wonder what Illinois looks like if the offensive line

1311
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: doesn't get noticeably better, and if it doesn't get noticeably better,

1312
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: the danger is that they do, and they're in danger

1313
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: if they don't. And four and eight, five and seven

1314
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 3: ish once again, Like that's the problem with Illinois is

1315
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're ever going to build up

1316
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 3: the depth to get to a legit dangerous place unless

1317
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: they accidentally happen into a quarterback or you know, it

1318
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 3: was the way that they got like Devin Weatherspoon a

1319
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Right, it was an academic thing

1320
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 3: and nobody thought it was gonna qualify, but Illinois stayed

1321
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: on him and he turned out to be you know,

1322
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: one of the best corners in the country, might have

1323
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 3: been the first corner taken in the draft a couple

1324
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 3: of years ago. So they're gonna have to on the

1325
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: margin succeed in that way. And again against this year's schedule,

1326
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: like I didn't even like you look at the winnable games,

1327
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: like at Rutgers is not necessarily winnable. This's gonna be

1328
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 3: a tough Rutgers team as you're gonna get into. I'm

1329
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: sure at Oregon the week after playing Michigan, like obvious

1330
01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 3: winnable games, Eastern Illinois, Central Michigan, probably Pue at home,

1331
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: probably Michigan State at home. And then what that's like

1332
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: four Yeah.

1333
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: Well they have seven home games on this schedule.

1334
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 3: They do. But I just I don't trust the firepower here.

1335
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: I like the skill guys. Yeah, it's to me, it's

1336
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 3: gonna come down to beefy depth for Illinois, Okay, and

1337
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 3: I have them at six and six.

1338
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: Well, they're over unders.

1339
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: Five and a half. So yeah, you're right there. What

1340
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: do you think about Northwestern this year? The stadium thing

1341
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: makes them interesting? Okay, okay, stadium thing makes them interesting.

1342
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 2: But we're gonna talk about that all year long. We're

1343
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: gonna go to a game. I mean that will be

1344
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure a popular punch line here as we go through,

1345
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: or a popular bit of charm, let's say, for the

1346
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: college football season ahead. The point of this preview, though,

1347
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: is not to make anybody a punchline, right. We're trying

1348
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: to find the reasons that teams are dangerous the reasons

1349
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: that they're not dangerous eight and five last season for

1350
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: David Brawn, you could argue him getting the job make

1351
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: them dangerous more dangerous perhaps when we expected a year ago,

1352
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: took over as an interim in a bad situation only

1353
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: a few weeks before the season, one big ten coach

1354
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 2: of the year to pull that campaign together, the way that.

1355
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: He did was impressive. Yeah, they gave him the job.

1356
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: Now, now is when the robber meats strot. Now you're

1357
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: actually building something, You're not just picking up the pieces

1358
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 2: and trying to move forward. What is the case Is

1359
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: there a case for.

1360
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: Northwestern in twenty twenty four?

1361
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, the case is David Brown is more secure, there's

1362
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: more familiarity with it being his program, bringing in more

1363
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 3: of his guys, the fact that the defensive line, which

1364
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: was the strength of the team last year, is basically

1365
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: all back, like big numbers along the the defensive line,

1366
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 3: And it's just weird to play Northwestern, especially this year.

1367
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: You're either playing at Wrigley or you're playing along the Lake.

1368
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 3: It's weird to play against Northwestern if you're on the road.

1369
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, the case for Northwestern is building a new

1370
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator who has I think a decent amount of

1371
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: skill talent. I think they're okay at receiver and camp

1372
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 3: Porter's back up running back, I think they're pretty good there.

1373
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: The case against Northwestern is easy. Who's playing quarterback. Who's

1374
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: playing the most important position for this team. There's a

1375
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 3: three way battle. It's like Jack Lusch who's been a backup,

1376
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 3: and Ryan Helensky, and then they bring in Mikey Wright

1377
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: who's been at both Vanderbilt Mississippi State and has been

1378
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: more impressive with his feet than his arm. These are

1379
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: not accurate quarterbacks. They're not quarterbacks with a history of accuracy.

1380
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 3: So like I would immediately like Northwestern more than I do.

1381
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 3: If Curtis Rourke transferred to Northwestern, right that, if they

1382
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 3: had who was the Indiana quarterback Peyton Ramsey, right right,

1383
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 3: he wasn't great. It was fine if they had somebody

1384
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: like that. It's an experienced successful quarterback, successful being obviously relative.

1385
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 3: But that, to me is what's holding me back with Northwestern.

1386
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 3: That like, they won a bunch of close games last year,

1387
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: including what a three point win against Howard, really impressive

1388
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 3: overtime win against Minnesota. I think they're gonna look more

1389
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 3: organized and more interesting on offense. But if you're telling

1390
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: me that they're kind of rebuilding the offensive line and

1391
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 3: they don't really have an obvious answer at quarterback, I

1392
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 3: think a Bowl would be pretty successful. I think I

1393
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: have them at five and seven, but like tough out

1394
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 3: spicy five and seven, tough out spicy five and seven.

1395
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean they have Ohio State and Michigan back to

1396
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 3: back weeks, Michigan and an Arboro, Ohio State at Wrigley

1397
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 3: and then at Iowa at Purdue. I mean, you're looking

1398
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 3: at the flawed teams on their schedule, like I think Maryland,

1399
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 3: even if you don't love Maryland Maryland's gonna be decent.

1400
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: Wisconsin's coming to the lake Front Field at Washington, like

1401
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: Duke's rebuilding, and that's a Friday night game at the

1402
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 3: lake Field that we're going to. But they're gonna have

1403
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 3: to win a bunch of weird games to make a Bowl,

1404
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 3: is my feeling on them. Now. They're gonna have to

1405
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: devise a crazy creative offense to put whoever that they

1406
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 3: select to be their quarterback to beat some teams that

1407
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: perhaps they shouldn't do. You have any straight Northwestern thoughts.

1408
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this field situation.

1409
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look if your starting point is really impressive

1410
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 3: defensive line that puts you ahead of most of this conference. Yeah,

1411
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: I think. But it's just like who is your B

1412
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 3: minus quarterback? That's all They really need to have an

1413
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: interesting year, and I don't think they have it right now.

1414
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: My thought on Northwestern it's bigger picture. It's not the

1415
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: Jimmies and Joe's of the twenty twenty four roster. It's

1416
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: everybody thought that David Brawn was going to go down

1417
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: in flames last year because of that circumstance, and he

1418
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: won eight games.

1419
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 4: Yep.

1420
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: So I just don't want to count him out. He

1421
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: came from a program in North Dakota. He just came

1422
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: over before he got the interim job to be the

1423
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, and he had done good work up there.

1424
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: He's been familiar with a program that had a lot

1425
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: of success, a dynasty level FCS program. To inject Northwestern

1426
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,440
Speaker 2: with some new ideas and maybe some of that experience,

1427
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: I think that goes a long way, and I wouldn't

1428
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: want to count the guy out, So I'm rooting for them.

1429
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: I love the situation.

1430
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: The lake Front Stadium, the portable stadium is going to

1431
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: be fun as hell for us to cover here throughout

1432
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: the course of the year. But in terms of things

1433
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: that I could say that would leave anyone feeling overly optimistic,

1434
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm there with it, But I don't

1435
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: want to count the coach out because of what we

1436
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 2: saw last year.

1437
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 3: I agree, and they're going to get closer to what

1438
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 3: they will look like as a finished product this year.

1439
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: I agree with that they're going to get closer. I

1440
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 3: think they're going to move in the correct direction, even

1441
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: if it's not indicative in the win column. Also, like

1442
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: they didn't play Michigan in Ohio State last year, right,

1443
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: they kind of held tough and a weird one with

1444
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: Penn State for like half right, and then Penn State

1445
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 3: ran away with it. And so he's just building on

1446
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 3: moments like that that it's gonna They're not gonna sneak

1447
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: up in the same way everybody penciled them in for

1448
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 3: like a two to ten year last year a one

1449
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: and eleven year, which is why David Brown was the

1450
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: Big ten Coach of the Year last year. They're not

1451
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 3: sneaking up on anybody in that way this year.

1452
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: Final team is Indiana.

1453
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: Indiana, Ah, Yeah, has a new coach, Kurt Signetti. They

1454
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 2: hired him after going three and nine and firing Tim

1455
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: Tim Tom Allen.

1456
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: Tim Allen's a different.

1457
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: Version continue I apologize previously.

1458
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kurt Signetti comes from James Madison, where he is

1459
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: really successful. He's got a track record for building programs

1460
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: everywhere he's been, He's been really good at doing just that.

1461
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 2: Indiana took a lot more from James Madison other than

1462
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti. They got both coordinators thirteen transfers. As I

1463
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: think we mentioned back on part one. I think that

1464
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: helps him in the short term. This is obviously obviously

1465
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: longer term project, though I don't think anyone's under any

1466
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: illusions that anything else is true.

1467
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: I don't hate this team. I don't.

1468
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: They're over undreds five and a half. I saw that number.

1469
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 2: I said, okay, that's a little bit higher than I expected,

1470
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: and then I went in, I popped the hood. I

1471
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: don't hate this team either. Maybe I like all of

1472
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: these teams too much. Certainly they can't all hit.

1473
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 3: The old sunshine pump and solid verbal.

1474
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah I turned into Phil Steel anyway. Who knew that

1475
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: was even possible.

1476
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 3: You can grow a mustache. Let's be clear, anybody watching

1477
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 3: this on YouTube dot com slash solid verbal. That's solid verbal.

1478
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: You can see the shadow under that that nose. It's

1479
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: just ripe and ready tie.

1480
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't grow it out more because there's a little

1481
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: bit more gray now than there used to be, you know,

1482
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: being in my late thirties early forties.

1483
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 3: It's you can't take that from me. It's a little

1484
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: grayer than it used to be. I think it would

1485
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 3: look scholarly and mature, and you know, maybe maybe the

1486
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 3: younger babes would dig it ty.

1487
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: The younger bag yet little Paul scheme's going on here

1488
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: in the upper love that.

1489
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 3: I would love that for us because right now we

1490
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 3: just kind of look alike. I have glasses on. That's

1491
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: my only distinguishing characteristic. There's not even a prescription in

1492
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 3: these bad boys.

1493
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: If you'd like for me to do a mustache show,

1494
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to do a mustache show at.

1495
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: Some point before it takes like three and a half days,

1496
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: it would. I'm like one of the super Mario brothers. Yeah,

1497
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 2: it's just great.

1498
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 3: Okay, we're losing the plot here. Indiana Football, Indiana Football, yes,

1499
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 3: thank you.

1500
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 2: I think they're dangerous because of how Kurt Signetti plays offense,

1501
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: which is not a set system, but more willing to

1502
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: adjust to whatever strengths he has on the roster. And

1503
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: this year in particular, that's going to be the passing

1504
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: game led by Curtis Rourke of the Rourke Family Quarterback Dynasty.

1505
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: Canada.

1506
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Canada. We were big on Curtis Rourke last year.

1507
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: I remember talking him up as a potential NFL draft pick.

1508
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: Didn't work, believe got hurt. Now he is playing for Indiana.

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01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: He is throwing to a super experienced group of led

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01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: by Donovan McCully. We have long been fans of this

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01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: Rourke thing. We've been waiting for it to take flight,

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01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: and I think this year provides an opportunity for Curtis

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01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: Rourke to really showcase what he can do on the

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: FBS level, on the FBS Power Conference level. Excuse me,

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01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: I am excited about the possibility of him throwing to

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01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: these receivers. They go about four deep. It should be

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01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: fun to see what he can do against a big

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: ten schedule and how this passing offense looks. That's why

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: they're dangerous. Okay, they're dangerous because I like the coach,

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: dangerous because I like that he's going to fit the

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: scheme around the talent.

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01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: And the dangerous because they do have talent actually at

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 1: quarterback and a wide receiver.

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01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: They're not dangerous. They're in danger because the defense. Because

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: the defense, it's going to be a work in progress. Man,

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01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: That's the best thing I can say about it. It's

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 2: a lot of transfers that were really bad against pass

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: last year. Feels like this side of the ball is

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: going to.

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01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:56,799
Speaker 1: Take a lot longer to repair.

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01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: This is not an overnight fix that you can Maybe

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01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 2: Curtis Rourke can play defense. Sure, if he can then great,

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01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: then we'll revisit this. But uh, I like the hire.

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01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 2: I think Kurt Signette is the dude. I think he

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01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. I just think it's going to

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: take a little bit to get the program to where

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01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 2: he wants it to be. The transfers will offer an

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 2: interesting stop gap, but the schedule is going to be

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01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: a challenge.

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01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: It is. It's going to be a challenge.

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 2: I could see a pathway to six wins, to hitting

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: that over five and a half. I would not want

1543
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: to bet on it. But I think Indiana, as I

1544
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: said in part one, is flawed but spicy. There will

1545
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: be a sufficient amount of spice here to keep your

1546
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 2: interest in Indiana football.

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: Okay, their schedule is not crazy. They do have Michigan

1548
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 3: not crazy, but but but caveat Cat not crazy.

1549
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: But for Indiana, I think this will be this will

1550
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 2: be a challenge.

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's all reasonable. So it's FIU Western

1552
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 3: ILLINOI at UCLA. Stop me when I get to a

1553
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 3: scary quarterback. Charlotte, Maryland, Northwestern Nebraska dil Roola has that ceiling.

1554
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: I think Washington, we'll see with Will Rogers, Michigan State,

1555
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 3: Aidan Chiles, Michigan, Alex Orgi, perhaps not Ohio State, Will Howard, Yes, Perdue,

1556
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 3: Hudson card and occasionally like, if you're telling me the

1557
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 3: big concern is defense. They can lose a lot of

1558
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 3: those games, for sure, but like we're not rattling off

1559
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 3: huge names here at quarterback that could take advantage.

1560
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, is not a murder's throw. No, not at all.

1561
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: So I'm in. I mean, you know, I'm in everybody.

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01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1563
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: Maybe that's my flaw. I'm too nice of a guy here,

1564
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: But I do like the higher a lot.

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01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 3: I think I look here is here is a way

1566
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 3: to figure out who did not like. The more any

1567
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 3: of these preview people, the more if you find team

1568
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 3: people writing about their team, if you find Bill Connolly,

1569
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: athlon whoever, the more of them that say they're really

1570
01:16:55,960 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 3: hoping this Youngstown State defensive tackle comes through, really hoping

1571
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 3: this UC Davis tight end is all the change they need.

1572
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: Listen, bros.

1573
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: Before nose, don't tell me not to feel my optimism

1574
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: for the FCS transfer, because that is truly the If

1575
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 2: he pops, then.

1576
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 3: I root for a team starting. I think he was

1577
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: at Rhode Island, their right tackle and he might be

1578
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: one of the first tackles off the board. I think

1579
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 3: it can happen. Quarterback is tough. Receiver is tough for

1580
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 3: me to see. Like an FCS guy coming in, I

1581
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 3: know what it's. Andrew Armstrong at Arkansas is a D

1582
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 3: two transfer. It's good to compliment what you have with

1583
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: some lower level guys to me, But if you're counting

1584
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: on stardom because he was a stud edge rusher at

1585
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee, I know, good luck. Look, Michigan had a

1586
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 3: great corner from I think UMass last year, big part

1587
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 3: of their run. It happens. But he complimented, I don't know.

1588
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 3: That's all. That's how you find out who to be

1589
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 3: down on bros before knows me Rose before they're all

1590
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 3: from UTAP somehow.

1591
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 2: You will be pleasantly surprised to hear that I have

1592
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 2: come up with the all time worst cringe worthy nickname

1593
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: I've ever come up with, and that's going to be in.

1594
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: Our part three.

1595
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: Done Done, Done.

1596
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 2: It's the worst. I posted it on Twitter. I posted

1597
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: on Twitter that I came up with it, not what

1598
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: it is. I told it to solid wife Kate, and

1599
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: she said, that is truly horrible.

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01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 3: She married you it is.

1601
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: Tom Smakowski jumped to conclusions, Matt Caliber terrible okay, and

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01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: I can't wait to share it with it for baller hood,

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01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: all right, can't wait. Thank you to one and all

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01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: for bearing with us here. A little bit longer show.

1605
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 2: But we had nine teams to get.

1606
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: Through because they got so many teams in this stupid conference,

1607
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: the Big Ten.

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01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: On our next episode, we're going to go through the

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01:18:54,920 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 2: balance of the conference and talk through Penn State, USC, Nebraska, Rutgers,

1610
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,879
Speaker 2: and Purdue in addition to Wisconsin, Washington, UCLA, and Maryland.

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01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the final nine teams that we didn't get

1612
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 2: through today right in saliverbogmail dot com. As always, let

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 2: us know if we screwed anything up, we've got a

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01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 2: losing horn. We will call it out and we'll give

1615
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: you your due. I profiss you. I don't think we did,

1616
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: but we never think we do. Let us know if

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01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 2: we got anything wrong. Also, let us know your feedback

1618
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: where you think we're right or maybe something out there

1619
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: that we missed weren't wrong factually, but missed in our.

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: Previews of these nine schools.

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Speaker 4: Agree, all right, Dan, One more Big ten episode Part

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 4: three coming at you next in the meantime for myself,

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01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 4: Ty for that guy over there, Dan, thanks for bearing

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Speaker 4: with us and supporting the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to y'all soon. Stay solid, peace,