WEBVTT - Anney Reese on Alien 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.280 Hey everybody, and welcome to Movie Crush. I'm looking at 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.920 one of my favorite smiling faces, Miss Annie Reeves. I check, 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.800 it's been a minute. I'm so happy to be here. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.800 I know, you know I was looking. I think I know. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.080 The last time you were in was with Holly for Empire. 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.920 But I don't know when the last Annie solo show was. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.840 It was a while ago. It was a while ago. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.040 It couldn't have been Captain America. I think it was. Yeah, 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.360 I think it was. It might have been what we 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.120 Do in the Shadows, but I think it's Captain America. Yeah, 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:05.640 Oh it was thora n u h did we do? Yes? Did? 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:10.160 Of course? How could you forget my thoughts, my brilliant 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.080 thoughts on that They were so brilliant they blew my 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.920 mind and then I just didn't even think anymore about it. Yeah, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.480 I think that was the last one. That was a 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.880 long time ago. Any I know, I know how you doing. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.320 I'm good. I'm at the usual. I don't know why 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.520 every time we record these, I'm at a weird intersection 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.600 of very hyper and very tired, which I guess is great, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.320 But I said today, I am fully vaccinated. So that's exciting. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.880 Oh nice, So two weeks out or just got your 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.120 shot two weeks out? So today, when did you get? 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.080 I got Maderna? You're like, I got to Johnson and Johnson's. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:50.000 I just wanted a double up. I got Maderna too. Mad. Yes, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.120 I don't know. Most people I know got fights there, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.120 so yeah, yeah, same, who knows. All I know is 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.240 it is. Brought me a lot of peace of mind. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:04.360 Recorded yesterday with Josh and Jerry in person was really great. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.560 We're all three in a room together and boy, it 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.399 was nice. I gotta tell you that is something else. Yeah, 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.120 I'm going to the office today and I actually have 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.680 something for you that I'm going to drop off at 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.480 your desk, all right, because I'm gonna be there tomorrow. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:25.880 So that's exciting. Yes, yes, don't tell me, no, no way, 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:31.360 I don't. I don't know, like it's bed bugs. Yes, 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.200 that's definitely something I would do. Well, it's great to 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.040 see you, Great to have you back. Um, we were 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.240 talking about what movie to do. You threw out Alien 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.120 among a couple of others, and it's like, what am 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.800 I saving Alien for? If not? Annie let's just let's 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:51.000 do it. I did Aliens already. Oh okay, well you're 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.880 in for a wild ride. I'm going to tell you that. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.200 All right. Well, I'll go ahead and just start real 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.359 quick by giving you my rundown of my history here. Uh, 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.800 this is a movie I remember from when I was 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.440 when it came out, believe it or not, when I 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:09.160 was eight years old. Uh, it seemed like the scariest 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.359 movie ever made for an eight year old kid. When 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.480 you're looking at that poster and that tagline one of 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.040 the all time greats. And I was not allowed to 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.960 watch it. I read the Mad Magazine spoof, and weirdly, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.360 I remember all of that so vividly, but I don't 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.760 remember the first time I saw it really, which yeah, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.720 which kind of speaks to a kid's imagination. I don't 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.520 remember the first time I saw it, but I just 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.800 know it's always been a movie I've gone back to 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.520 again and again, and then watching the anniversary four K 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:44.400 edition last night, it's it's saying it holds up is 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.720 is a cliche. It's it's just as great as ever. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.160 I can't believe this movie was made ninety nine. Every 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.360 time I look at it and it's just it's one 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:58.800 of the great all time films. Absolutely, um on over 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.840 on stuff. I've never told you. You have a segment 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.480 called feminist Movie Friday, and the for the movie that 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.040 I was like, we have to do this segment was 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.440 this one. It just years I've been like, we have 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.920 to talk about alien and I when the four Anniversity, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.080 which is twenty nineteen, happened, I got to go see 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:22.080 it in theaters and it was awesome. It was so fantastic. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.560 And I actually have a really funny story about this 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:32.080 movie because I vividly remember the first time I saw it. Um, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.040 my older brother and I had a really adversarial relationship 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.200 growing up. How much older. He's four years older than me, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.520 So this was I was nine years old and around 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:47.520 the time it was the rosal alien autopsy thing happened 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.640 and he showed it to me and it freaks me out. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:57.400 Check it really freaks me out. And being an older brother, 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:02.080 he played this very epic, well done but terrible prank 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.880 where he basically convinced me that our parents had been 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.320 objected by aliens, that they were coming from me and 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.640 like they were special effects. There were lights. I hid 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.520 in my closet all night. Um, while you're in your 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:21.599 closet again, it's a whole coupled circle. Um. But because 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.039 of the success of his prank, I was terrified Aliens 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.599 so scared. I couldn't watch e T I couldn't watch 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:33.799 Independence Day like I had a legitimate if. I remember 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.279 once in class in high school, one of their teachers 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.599 showed I think it was Independent Day. I had to leave. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.359 I couldn't watch it. So was that your big that 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:47.080 was that your boogeyman? Yes and so, and you know 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.280 I love horror movies and it was like this thing 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.440 that was just bothering me that I was missing this 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.719 whole genre, this whole section of horror movies. And so 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.480 I told my best friend, I'm like, this is my 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.440 Mount Everest. I have got to get over it. And 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:09.240 I was in college and we watched Alien and I cried. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:14.560 I cried and I was like hugging her, and but 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.279 I got over the I did get over the fear, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.640 and now it's one of my favorite movies. Oh wow, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.280 Well there's something to be said for um what's it 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:27.800 called exposure therapy? Yeah? Yeah, I watched that and Aliens 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.200 and Event Horizon all on the same day, so I 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.320 event Horizon was pretty good. I remember I haven't seen 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.039 it in a while, but that that was pretty creepy. 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.960 It's messed up, it's messed up. But yeah. My deal 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:43.680 with Aliens is I like it a lot, but I 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.240 really like seeing. I really like Alien a lot more 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.960 like a lot more. I like seeing. It's much more 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.240 rewarding to see the journey for Ripley in this movie. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.599 I love seeing badass Ripley all ready to go and Aliens, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.240 but seeing the transformation or in her character arc. Uh, 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:07.600 it's just it's everything, you know. Yeah, I think they're 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.360 just two very different. I feel like Aliens is much 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.640 more an action movie, which is still fun and great, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.520 but this one is like, I mean, immediately with the 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.600 credit sequence of how the letters come in and the 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.760 kind of driving beat of the music, you're like, oh, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:27.360 I'm unsettled. Yeah, I mean I know that it's there's 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.200 you know, it's a sci fi horror film. But even 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.280 having seen it so many times last night, it hit 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.440 me of how much of a horror film this is. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:40.040 Like this, if this were a cabin in the woods 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.320 and literally you could just do everything you do and 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.480 then make it a monster in the woods with the 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.440 same people who maybe they're working in a coal mine 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.720 or something, and they're they're having dinner at their table 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.880 in the cabin, like, and they get picked off one 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.000 by one and there's cat. There's a cat that's sucking 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.040 things up. I mean, it's a straight up horror movie, absolutely, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.800 and it's It's funny because I managed to miss that 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.320 big Twitter kerfuffle about that article that said there's no 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:12.240 horror movies in space and people were like alien who 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.560 said that. I don't remember, I missed it, but I 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.640 saw like all of the fallout of people saying, here's 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:24.160 multiple examples. Um, then Horizon was kind of a horror movie. Absolutely, 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.600 it's horrible. We don't need eyes to see. That's I 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:33.880 don't remember that, but I don't like that line. Sam Neil, Yeah, 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:38.120 he was great. Perfect. Um. It was zenomrph Alien Day 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.680 a couple of days ago, so this is sort of timely, 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.480 you know. I saw that somewhere today when I was 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.280 poking around the internet about this movie. What was no? No, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.360 Maybe Nold told me, but what was um was there 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.959 a reference to this date, like in The Terminator or something? Oh, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.520 I have no idea or did they just pick I mean, truly, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.280 it wasn't out of thin air right now, I it 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.560 can't be out of thin air. I think it's the actually, 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.440 you know what it is. It's the ship. The ship 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:10.560 that they find is four to six. Okay, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.120 I'm all about the nerds claiming a day for their own. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.640 You know. In the process of being on this show, took, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.319 I've made a lot of lists. Here's my favorite horror movies, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.280 here's my favorite whatever, whatever. And I did notice like 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.040 a lot of my favorite movies come from this time period, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.840 which I think is really interesting. But my dad is 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.800 probably the reason I love movies, and this was like 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.480 his youth and heyday. And he told me the story 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.680 of taking my mom on a date to see Alien 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.040 and he said it just scared the hell out of them. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.160 They couldn't even look at the poster and people, according 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.360 to him, people were like screaming and somebody threw up. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.320 It's really well, I mean it's it's it's hard for 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.400 the youth today, Annie, which I will still include you, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.520 uh to to understand that there was nothing like this 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.120 at the time, Like there was close encounters of the 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.080 third kind, and those were sort of lovable aliens in 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:13.520 a way. Um, there was the day the Earth did 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.000 still there were laser beams shooting. You know, we're the 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.720 world's type aliens. But there hadn't been like once hr 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:27.240 Geeger got on the scene and created this truly terrifying, remorseless, 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:32.200 empathy less beast. Uh, No one knew what the funk 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.760 was how to take this it was. It was truly horrifying, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.880 and like just rewrote movies and this kind of movie 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.560 at least. Yeah, And I think it's really interesting because 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.199 there's a lot of things that were happening when this 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.320 came out and before it came out that really influenced it. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.440 And you know, some of the creators, like Dan Obannon 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.480 in specific, said like I want this to be because 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.440 Star Wars had come out and it was really successful, 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.560 Like take that, make that scary, make it like Jaws 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:04.400 and Space, make it Texas Chainsaw massacre in Space. And 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.400 also at the time, which I'm going to get into this, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.280 and I think some people are like, wow, I never 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.840 looked at this movie the same again, but there are 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.600 things like um Row v. Wade, and you have second 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.959 wave feminism and you had a lot of fears around 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:25.720 like environmental things and chemicals and pesticides and foods, and 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:30.160 then you had this fear around like capitalism and uh 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:35.120 not putting employer employees first and like just not valuing them. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.280 So all of these things to talk about the bonus, 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.520 I love that. I love that. That's one of the 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.160 things that does feel very kind of Star Wars to me, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.280 where they're the ship is kind of dirty. They're just 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.720 like people were doing their job and they just want 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:54.800 their bonus, and then these forces are conspiring against them 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.680 and not valuing them at all, and perfect organism. Almost 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.559 all of you are dead. Well. I mean it is 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.520 important to remember when you see this movie to remind 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.480 yourself that these aren't soldiers. These are blue collar workers 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.480 of the time. Uh, on these operations where they're going 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.920 to these far off places and they're they're mining for 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.160 I mean, I know the serious alienards are gonna be 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.640 mad because I don't know exactly what they were doing, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.520 but they were reminding for valuable things to bring back. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.679 And uh, that's why that bonusing is kind of funny, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.240 because you're right, it's like they're there to do a 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.520 job and they just want to get home. They don't 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.560 want to go check out that beacon at all. Um 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.720 r I p offet Coto, by the way, who just 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.560 recently passed. It was it was kind of sad seeing 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.520 here he and Harry Dean Stanton some of those two 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.160 shots because they both left us now and I thought, 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.600 and I was like, oh, and Tom Scarrett and Tom 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.679 Scaretts alive. That's the great news. He's eighties, seven years old, 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.720 he's still going. I was like, oh, that's great. Because 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.360 Tom Scarett is so emblematic of that time period, is 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.040 like this sort of he wasn't a huge movie star, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.839 and I don't think he really top lined movies, is 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.160 like the big leading man, but he was super handsome 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:14.560 and just this rugged sort of seventies guy. Yeah, my 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.760 dad kind of looks like him actually when he was 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.280 during that period. Yeah. Um that's the scariest part to 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:27.120 me because when Dallas is in the like vance and 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:32.280 he has a flamethrower and it's like coming, oh my god. Yeah, Well, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.840 because you've got he employees. Really, Scott employed so many 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:40.559 great little tricks to ratchet up the tension, Like this 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.160 movie is a masterclass on tension building. In a film 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.400 and and slow burn kind of filmmaking, and he uses 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:53.520 little things like that that yes, and you just hear 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.440 that sound and like I just got a little chill 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.640 right now, and and and seeing that little you know, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.720 nineteen seven these era spent winning a special effect just 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.800 look like a pong game, you know, just getting closer. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.320 It doesn't need to be fancy and and look like 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.480 some you know, amazing c g I creation. That's just 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.600 it's a good lesson, I think, is you just need 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.480 a green dot getting closer to the other green dot 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.120 at a rapid rate, and and it starts going faster 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:26.000 and faster and you're you're terrified. Yeah, And I think 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.920 that was something really smart that they did, and in general, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.800 I think is the best course of action in horror movies. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.640 As they knew, like if we show this alien and 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.440 it's full form too long, people are gonna be like, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.120 that's a man in a suit. So you really, I 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.840 think it's less than two minutes. You see the full 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.400 creature in the whole film, So it's just like the 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.800 Jaws effect. Yeah, exactly, exactly, And it works so well 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.160 like your imagination if you're if you've done the job 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.960 as creators, you're imagining the imagination of the audience is 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.160 going to do a lot of that work for you, Like, yeah, 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.120 and I think it's I mean, that kind of restraint 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.040 is so valuable to a filmmaker and I think that's Um. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.560 I don't know about loss, but it doesn't get used 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.480 as much as it should these days. But um, it's 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:15.000 the very very end when it's blasted off from the 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.640 rear of the ship is kind of the final reveal 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.520 of what that whole body looks like. And I remember 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.840 seeing it and going it has arms and legs, Like, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.200 I guess you knew I had arms because that great 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.400 shot where it reaches out for for Tom Scarrett, But 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.680 I don't. I don't think I even thought about it 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.840 having big, long, gangly legs until I saw it outside 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.120 the ship. Yeah, it feels much more because so many 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.920 of the shots are kind of unfurling, Yeah, and so 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.720 almost reptilian maybe or like you're not picturing that part 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:57.520 you're so horrified. Yeah, just this unfurling effect that it's 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.720 never even at least for me, it didn't really occur 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:05.000 to me. Guess legs, Yeah, Yeah. The great Veronica Cartwright 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.280 as Lambert Um, I do one impression of her, and 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:15.760 that is this oh god, oh god, yeah, that's my Lambert. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.320 She was so good though, Uh, I just I mean, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.320 the cast in this movie is unbelievable. John Hurt uh, 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.440 like I said, yeah at Koto of course, of Courney Weaver, uh, 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.680 the great Ian Home, who was just like, I mean, 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.680 I forget, I forgot about that end scene where he's 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.960 totally skitzing out, throwing himself against the wall in like 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.200 full android robot freak out mode, and I'm like, that's 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:44.000 Ian Home doing that. Yeah. Every time I watched this movie, 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.520 which is at least once a year, I'd say, yeah, 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.200 I get he makes me so angry, Like I I 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:54.280 still I'm like, oh, I don't like this guy. Like, yeah, 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.800 it was brilliant casting. And the reveal of him as 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.880 uh so late in the movie is and I mean, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.240 is he an android or a rope? I trusting my robot, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:08.760 but um Parker does. But it's so well played, uh 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.719 to just hang on to that for so long, And 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.280 of course once you've seen it a bunch of times, 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.760 you see a couple of little hints along the way, 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.359 like Dallas says early on, which I don't think I 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.520 ever even known he sees something about something this man 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.600 and uh Ian home kind of gives him a little look, 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.119 and I don't think I ever noticed that until last night. 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:28.960 I was like, oh, there's a nice little easter egg. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.680 There are a bunch of little things if you're paying attention, 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.760 Like I think he never eats like you've never see 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.480 him eat like. He sits on the like milk thing. 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:45.280 But rather than that, you mean his his future sweat ross. Yeah, 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.040 it was really nasty because it wasn't even full milk. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:52.960 It was watery milk. Yeah, it's like step below that 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.640 scene I posted the god that seems so brutal when 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.359 when Parker knocks his literally knocks his head off and 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.520 uh then then uh Ripley you know, sets him up 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.560 on the table with his head separated from his body. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.919 And I just had to send that picture out on 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.840 my movie screen to the movie crushers. I was like, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.080 look what I'm watching for Annie, and they everybody, everyone 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.880 was really excited that you were the one for this movie. 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:22.920 Wait till I get into my quotes. Let's hear one. Okay, 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:28.960 um so from Tom's shown at Slate. Okay, okay, Alien 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.840 has issues. It has mommy issues and sex issues. It 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.960 has a thing for strong women, who it also likes 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.119 to oggle in their undies. It's a hot mess, a 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.600 Freudian fever dream with its crabby and post coital atmosphere. 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:44.240 It's rebirthing imagery. It's queasily gynecological production design. It's a 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.800 night sweat of male anxiety. A particularly horrid fun confusion 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.119 of the sexual gynecologial within the gastro intestinal and the 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.720 famous John Hurt burst scene in which a razor tooth 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.439 phallic monster not its way through his stomach into the light, 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:03.639 a kind of science fiction foul stintadis Oh god, you 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:09.280 know and true, uh Lambert Veronica Cartwright. She didn't know, 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.600 like the actors didn't know during that scene. It's gonna 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:15.240 be like the explosion. I heard that that's brilliant to 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.000 do as a filmmaker. But yeah, that's really interesting. I mean, 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.920 it certainly did occur to me last night. Like Mother 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:26.000 is the computer, the alien itself obviously is is a 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.399 big mama who just only wants to you know, have 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.760 babies and kill people. Um, so yeah, they're definitely there's 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.040 a lot more going on below the surface. And it's 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.200 a movie that you can I love that this is 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.840 a movie you can pick apart like that. And and 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.600 who knows what Ridley Scott and the writers intended, but 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.119 who cares. Really, it's like it's a movie that you 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:59.000 can interpret in a variety of ways. Well, I do know, um, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.680 Danna Vanna, who is putting the writers. There's a lot 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.679 of like conflicting kind of controversy around the writing of 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.600 this movie. Right, and he got credit, but Dana Bannon 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.919 is largely the one that gets the credit. Um. And 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.560 he said, he's quoted saying one thing that people are 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:17.680 all disturbed about his sex. I said, that's how I'm 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.240 going to attack the audience. I'm going to attack them sexually. 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.000 And I'm not going to go after the women in 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.200 the audience. I'm going to attack the men. I'm going 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:25.960 to put in every image I can think of to 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:30.359 make the men and the audience cross their legs. Homosexual, oral, rape, birth, 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.320 the thing lays its eggs down your throat, the whole number. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:38.080 Oh wow, I've got so many quotes, Chuck. So he 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.679 that was very much intentional, then that's pretty Yes, absolutely 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:47.080 it was intentional. Although there is the one scene with 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:54.480 UM with the aliens tail kind of creeping up cartwrights legs, right, yes, 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:59.920 and that's a big It's never been confirmed what happened 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.440 in that. But she's not wearing when you see her again, 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.760 and her body is hanging, she's not wearing pants. And 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.959 I have played the game Alien Isolation, which is I 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:16.800 think it's Ripley's daughter goes back and investigates the ship UM, 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:21.320 and it's implied that she was raped in that. Really, Yeah, 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.320 I'm telling you so much to unpack. There's a lot 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:30.200 to unpack um non thematically speaking, just the look of 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:34.040 the film, obvious sandwich and hr Geeger who and I 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:35.600 don't know if it's still there. He had a bar 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:40.159 in in Europe somewhere that was styled out like this, 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.879 and a friend of mine went and I don't know 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:45.560 if it's still there. This is many, many years ago, 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:47.879 and I remember him telling me all about the Geeger 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.119 bar and how amazing it was. But you know, you 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.720 always sort of remember the dank darkness of the guts 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.480 of the ship, but uh, so much of the other 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.119 stuff is so cool looking, the striking eight of the 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.840 quarters in the in the control room and stuff like 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.240 that I think it's um. I didn't remember that stuff 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.560 looking so kind of sharp, and that maybe that four 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:13.000 K just it popped really really good. UM. But the 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.280 whole design of the movie is it's just legendary. It 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:23.400 still looks amazing absolutely UM. And there's some some things 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.159 I love about. When they were coming up with this 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:30.560 idea because he um Geeger was inspired by this German 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.520 artist who did something um. It was kind of based 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.480 on the Furies of the Greek Furies called Francis Bacon. 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:39.639 If you could, you can look it up and you 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.720 can see like, oh yeah, I see the inspiration. Um. 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.240 But then that from that, he did a collection of 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.440 pieces called Necromonica in and that's how he came on 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:52.879 the radar of Dan O'Bannon and Ridley Scott. But he 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.000 he was going for something sexual and creepy, and some 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.840 of his designs were so overtly sexual. The studio was 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:05.040 like nope, nope, which blows with mind because they're so sexual. 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.480 And US Customs held Geeger after seeing his artwork for 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.359 Alien and they were highly disturbed by it. And I 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:18.600 think Ridley Scott had to go help him out. And 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.080 then like the first version of the egg just had 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.439 one slit in it for the opening, and Redley Scott 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.720 laughed out he saw it because he's like, that looks 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.760 like too much, Like can we can we have it 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.760 open at four corners please? I mean, that's one of 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.159 the great shots of the movie, you know, is that 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.440 that slow peel away of that egg. And especially you know, 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.600 it's hard to kind of go back and remember when 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.320 you didn't know what was coming, even though it's still 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.000 I mean, I was like biting my nails last night. 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.440 I know everything that happens in this movie, and it's 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.600 still tends to me, but um, it is hard to 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.320