1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hold up, Rashanda, you don't skipped. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: I got married at nineteen, had twins in a baby 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: and said I like girls. We'll get to that later. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: We learned this in real time. Yes, I done forgot 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: you was gay sick because I've only known you as 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: gay sick. What up? 7 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Y'all? 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Not My Best Moment with me Kevi on Stage, 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: a podcast where I talked to artists, athletes, entertainers and 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: my friends about their failures based on my book New 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: York Times best selling book Successful Failure. Today, we are 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: graced with the presence of Rashonda Elias. You may know 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: her from many of things. You might have been in 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: the military with her. She's had a lot of lies. 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: She's an Army veteran diversity advocate, author of several books. 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: She's viral on TikTok and Instagram every day. She threw 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: me under the bus. I need to apologize. You have 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: the floor. I'm sorry on threads. 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: No less, I panicked, threw. 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Me under the bus, but we remain friends. You may 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: know her from The Sunday Show with Jonathan k. Part 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: She's a founder and CEO of the boutique All Is 23 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Fair in Love and Fashion. You may know her from 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: check the Boar, black Board white writing, very funny. She 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: was recently married in February. Ladies and Gentlemen, Rayshonda Lias 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: now Rayshawanda. We was talking. What we're not gonna talk 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: about is you had a baby at ten years old? 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: Why do you keep going down engage? 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: We was playing with toys, you were having a child. 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: This is third tell us quickly, we don't have to 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: go into detail about why you had a baby at 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: at at eight years old, Just telling people quickly the 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: mistakes you made because you failure, yes, real quick. Spent 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: much time. 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: I was a cheerleader. We were talking in the locker room. 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: They was talking about, you know in the movies when 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: you bite your ear your first time's amazing, And I 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: was like, oh, well, I want to try that out 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: to see no business at thirteen none Do you hear me? 40 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: Eighth grade? Please? Okay? Oh my god. It was awkward, 41 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: it hurt. I think I passed out. It did not fit, 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: and I was pregnant and I was in denial about it. Pregnant, Yes, 43 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: I was in denial. I tried you know the little well. 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: Back in the nineties, they had the little big decorative 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: rocks that you line your driveway with it laid out 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: in the driveway and putting one on my stomach. It 47 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: wasn't so crazy because I didn't want to tell my mama, 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: and my mama is number thirteen or fourteen, so then 49 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: there's a family meeting, you know, yes, and then my 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: grandfather is a pastor, so it's like a whole thing. 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. And I was like, so I and 52 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: she was like, I ain't. I haven't seen any sanitary 53 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: napkins in the trash. So I went and wrapped one 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: up and put it in there. She came out of 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: my room opening it ain't nothing in this, So then 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: I gased it. I was like, now you're nasty for 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: digging around in the and she went outside. She cried. 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: She was devastated, and I had to call his mom. 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: She was screaming, yes, I called this, well, I had 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: to call him the tell I hadn't told him because 61 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: I didn't talk to him atheat. 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: I was it was weird. I just didn't. 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: She was devastated. Then turns out they had beef back 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: in the seventies, so they didn't like each other. My 65 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: MoMA and his mama, but I didn't know that. 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: I was like, you don't walk up the old womb. 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: No, but he was he They said, okay, you know 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: it was too late. I'm three months now at this time, 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: and my mom only noticed this is crazy. I was 70 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: playing we had It was February by that time, so 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: it's Black History Month. I am playing a field person. 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: So my skirt that I had on this long Southern 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: Baptist skirt, but I had a little pooch because I'm 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: like one thirty at the time, and my mom was like, no, 75 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: you're pregnant. She cried. My dad cried. I had to 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: call him. He was like, what you want to do. 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm thirteen, I don't have any answers 78 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: and I'm a straight A student. Everybody's upset. I learned 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: a lot thoughkare because you know, and that's probably when 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: I became very cynical. I learned that people are fickle, 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: lost friends. They blame my parents. They didn't want people 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: to spend it. You know. It just was weird. I 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: was like, you can't catch pregnancy, and I'm not promoting pregnancy. 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: And teachers didn't want me in their classroom. Teacher yeah, 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: it was a lot. It really was for a thirteen 86 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: year old. I had my son and started ninth grade, 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: and then a year after his father passed in a 88 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: car accident. And the first thing, I came home from 89 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: a school dance and my mom was like, you know, well, 90 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: I came in plus and I was like, he was 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: to pick me up. I had to ride with somebody else. 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: He smelled like cheese. It was just a lot. And 93 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: I didn't hear her say he's been in an accident. Baby, 94 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: he's gone, And immediately thought, where's my son, because he 95 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: always had his son. Yeah, and he had got into 96 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: a little tif for his mom, and he left my 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: son with his mom, and fifteen minutes later he was gone. 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, you was going through hell in 99 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: ninth grade. Now quiet as kept. I played with toys 100 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: in ninth grade. Yes, I didn't tell nobody because I 101 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: saw my friends. Was like wining with toys. I went 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: in my room by myself. I had them actual figures, 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: and I said, see, I played with toys, and I 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: watched Highlander. You are an adult, yes. 105 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: And my mom doing so. I had my son July eighteenth. 106 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: A week later, I turned fourteen, July twenty ninth. My 107 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: mom wrapped me and Suran rap put a girdle on me, 108 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: and I started ninth grade on August eighth. That was 109 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: no sixth week waiting period or nothing. So this was 110 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: going to to my tenth grade year when he passed, 111 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, what is happening? 112 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: No, that's a lot. Okay, that's a lot going on. 113 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: And I was still cheerleader, math club, FBLA. All the 114 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: things went ahead. Every night, my mom would take the 115 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: crib into her room and on the weekends I would 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: be the parent. But during the week she's like, you're 117 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: not going to have an excuse not to graduate, finish school, 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: and that's what I did. 119 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Wow, you were sister. She was nine fives the weekend. 120 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: So wait, okay, I mean at least shout out your 121 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: mama for holding you. 122 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom held me down. My uncle's everybody, all 123 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: of them came together. This is a This is a 124 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: group of fourteen plus my first cousin, So it's huge. 125 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: In the day, the black people would have told that 126 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: baby that that was his mama, you was his sister, 127 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: and then when he turned twenty one, they're but like, 128 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: your sister's your mama. What this is, trup, But he 129 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: knew you was his mama. Yes, the whole time, even 130 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: just Saturday and Sunday. 131 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: That's correct, because Monday you go back and my mama through. 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: I gotta go to sleep. 133 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Okay. So I love I love that you learned a 134 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: lot about people to fickle nature, because I imagine that was 135 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: valuable information in becoming a social media star. Yes, because 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: people are fickle. Yes, we love you until you get 137 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: to a certain point. We love you to you make 138 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: the wrong choice. We love you to this and that 139 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: I want to get to this first. Hold that thought, 140 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: Oh rayshanda, You went from let me make sure I 141 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: gets correct. You went from homelessness to a six figure business. Yes, 142 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: now what what drove you to homelessness? What happened? 143 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Oh lord? So I was working at ka Texas State 144 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: University only public HBCU in Kentucky, and I was there 145 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: finished my degree in public administration, and I wanted to 146 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: start a nonprofit. So on my thirtieth birthday, I'm gonna 147 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: go save the world. All right, gotcha, I'm gonna go 148 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: save the world. I'm gonna start me a non profit. 149 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: For two, I'm going back to Mississippi. I'm doing all 150 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: the things. And I resigned on my thirtieth birthday, and 151 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: within four months my money was stolen. It was gone. Actually, 152 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: I trusted a family member with access to my accounts 153 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 2: because I sent my children first. While I was moving 154 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: from Kentucky. I found out the day before, actually Christmas Eve, 155 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: that everything I had saved gone, it was gone. 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: These people didn't help with the baby. 157 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: They actually did. 158 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: They help with the baby, didn't stolen money from the 159 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: baby's mom. 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: Yes, what did that? I'm telling you life is my own. 161 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, lord. 162 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: And I was so angry and I got up. I 163 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 2: packed my children up. We drove in the middle of 164 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: the night. And even though I had been in Louisville 165 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: maybe once or twice, I have never lived in louis 166 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: or knew really anybody there. Just a few people drove 167 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, drove from Mississippi back 168 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: to louis of Kentucky, DC Member of twenty eleven. We 169 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: got a paid by the week motel. I went in 170 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: the bathroom and I was like, Oh, you're gonna have 171 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: to fix this. I was like, I've been through a 172 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: lot in my life, but I have never been zero dollars, 173 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: zero dollars. I grew up in a poor town. We 174 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: still never had zero dollars. Okay, yes, and I'm like, 175 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: all I have is the cash that I have on me, 176 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: and I got four children in the next room. What 177 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: am I going to do? 178 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: You doesn't skipt. 179 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: I got married at nineteen, had twins and a baby, 180 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: and said, I like girls. We'll get to that later. 181 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: We learned this in real time. Yes, I done forgot 182 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: you was gay, see because you I've only known you 183 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: as gay. You had four kids at twenty. 184 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: Well, I got. I was in the military station in Manheim, Germany, 185 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: and in hindsight it was kind of creepy. I should 186 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: have been like, what are you doing? But somebody was 187 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: leaving flowers like in my in my barracks and all 188 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: the things. Turns out it was this guy. He really 189 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: likes me. At the time, I was in the military, 190 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: and you know, my family kept saying because I came 191 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: out at seventeen. I went to my mom room. I 192 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: was like, hey, I don't really want my vagina beat 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: up one. I want a girlfriend that and I left, yes, because. 194 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: Listen, because I don't enjoy that. I don't I don't 195 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: want it. Beat it up no more. You can eat it, 196 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: can't beat it, can't beat correct, correst me, don't stress me. 197 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, okay, right, but that's 198 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: not that's my mom. My mom has always been. It's 199 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: not great, right, it's not my mom. You got other 200 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: people you gotta because now she's gonna get on the phone. 201 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: Oh for you listen Mississippi. Yes, oh I got Let 202 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: me tell you where shying to talk about? She like 203 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: girls and a meeting. 204 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: What's called do you hear me? Meeting? Was called telling 205 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: you she got six sisters. 206 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: Everybody that my mam letting favorite North Carolina. If you 207 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: gave her piece of information like that, it would feed 208 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: the world. Calling people let me tell you about care 209 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: like favor wouldn't even be big enough. So I know 210 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: feeling this South love to talk, not to drink swee tea. 211 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: And at this point, most of my aunts are in Chicago, 212 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: so she didn't call Chicago. Also, I need to tell 213 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: my dad before they call him. My cousin's in La. 214 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: Everybody is now and then my cousin, my other cousins 215 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: that start to come out. Now I'm spreading the gate 216 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: now Rashanda's spreading the game even though they're older than me. Right, 217 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: they've been gay, spreading, I'm spreading the gate and oh 218 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: my god, my aunts they were like, no, you need 219 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: to get a husband and have You cannot be gay. 220 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: You just can't. 221 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: We already we was with you with the baby at thirteen, right, 222 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: we can't go with you older. 223 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: Okay, And I had already I lost another boyfriend in 224 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: high school. So yes, so that's why my mom started 225 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: calling me widow. But it was a lot because my 226 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: family's so serious. 227 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: Now you actually make more sense as a person. Yes, 228 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: because I ain't had no contact for you. I was 229 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: just like, Shanna, funny, you exist in the ecosystem of 230 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: some people. 231 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: Hilarious. 232 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: Okay, Now that with over john as. 233 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: Wild, everybody's crazy. 234 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: You spreading gay and death. You got get your butt 235 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: to Germany. Okay, get you get away from us. First, 236 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: you was spreading pagnancy in the school. You though it's 237 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: not contagious. Now you're spreading gay though people who've been gay. 238 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: You got like, going on, it's a lot. 239 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Go to the military, get you a husband. Okay, Oh 240 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: my lord, so any we I did explain to him 241 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: that I like women. I was like, this is not 242 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: It's like maybe just had a bad experience. I got 243 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: too dead people, Okay, I don't okay, And I was 244 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: like maybe and first time and I was like, no, 245 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: not again. 246 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: You got pregnant on the first time. Both. Did you 247 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: have any partners in between your first pregnancy and this person? 248 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: Male partners the one that passed Okay, just sow the 249 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: classes up to speed. The first time you have sex, 250 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: you get pregnant. Thirteen, that baby's father passes away and craccident, 251 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: rest in peace. Yes, your second male partner also passes away. Correct, 252 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: you swear off men for a little bit. Correct you 253 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: come back, third mail partner once again? Pregnant on the 254 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: first time. 255 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: Yes, and now it's twins. 256 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: You know how people say, God don't play about me. 257 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: He play about you a little bit. He played about 258 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: you a little bit. He play about you because you 259 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: you got a lot of original experiences. And I'm forty two, 260 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: forty three. I ain't never had nobody who had all 261 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: this One of them is crazy. You got three? Yes, okay. 262 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: He calls his mama because I said, I don't want 263 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: to have any children. I don't want to having children. 264 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: I don't want having children. He's like the only child, 265 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: only grandchild, only great grandchild. 266 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, they bring me them grand babies, little Raisor. 267 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: I went to the German place. I couldn't even speak 268 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: what was on the walls. I need you to whatever 269 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: it is, I don't want it. I don't want it. 270 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't however, y'all say not, I don't want it. 271 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: And I went in there. I was making sure I 272 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: wasn't over twelve weeks and they was like, I see 273 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: two something, two something's up? 274 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: What? 275 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: Two somethings up? 276 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: What? 277 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: And at this time I'm still like I do believe 278 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: in Jesus, I do believe? What do I get? Double head? 279 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Like? 280 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: What is happened? Like I have I'm going through this 281 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: right now in real time? 282 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh no, you couldn't do too that 283 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: was too much. 284 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: I got a box. I was like, I could do one. 285 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: One is one is a lot? Two is okay? I understand? 286 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: So I nineteen then. 287 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: Right, yes, I'm nineteen six years later. 288 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: You don't found yourself in okay? 289 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: And I went back to the barracks. He's sitting on 290 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: the couch all sad because he think I'd have went 291 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: through it, and I just threw the sun and ground 292 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: pictures at him, almost like it's twins here. Now he's 293 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: celebrating and the winning light up Citharius. His sergeants out 294 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: there saying, y'all didn't do nothing, y'all didn't do nothing, nobody, 295 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: Why are y'all celebrating? I am devastating, And he asked me, 296 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: you know you know later on he proposed, and I'm like, 297 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm nineteen. You met me at a back that ass 298 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: of content, Like I am not. I don't want to 299 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: get married. 300 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: You don't even know me. 301 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: I don't even know me. 302 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: I was talking, you saw all you needed to see. 303 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: And I won Actually, color you get pregnant every time? 304 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: I bet you know how to check your butt? 305 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: You meant to harry something? 306 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: Ben a whip? Why? And I was like, I was like, 307 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: I said, have you read the Bible. There's too many 308 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: instructions in there for wives. I don't want to do that. 309 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: I don't. I just wanted to throw ass and go 310 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: to sleep. Yes. I was like no, and he was like, 311 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna be okay, We're gonna have a family. And 312 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, wold, Like, girls, I told you that I 313 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: already said that. Oh my god, I get sick, I 314 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: do all the things. I go home to have the babies. 315 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: He go to Texas to because now he's stationed and 316 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: we're stationing at for Hood and he has to go 317 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: set up the house, and I keep going into labor. 318 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: We don't know anybody in text so I'm at home 319 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: in Mississippi. 320 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: With my mom. 321 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: My mom was like, now you're married and pregnant. 322 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: You didn't tell us when you got married. 323 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I got married in Pensacola in May, Okay. They 324 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: were born in July, even though they were do September third, 325 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: and I still want them to celebrate to this day. 326 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: They're going to be twenty five hours, Like, can you 327 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: just celebrate your birthday on the day you were supposed 328 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: to be? Yes? 329 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: Is that what you were? 330 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: No, they were born on my birthday July twenty ninth, 331 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: don't you know? That's all I'm saying. 332 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: They don't come and took your birthday. Oh come on 333 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: for losing No, you got it. That's that's crazy. And 334 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: first of all, July to sept day, they were super early. 335 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: They kept five weeks six weeks. They're about six weeks early. Wow, 336 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: he stopping my labor. They kept I kept going into labor. 337 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: It was just a lot. And they got here and 338 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you have your children, Okay. 339 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. I'm going back to twork. 340 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: I'm going back to work. And I did. And he 341 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: came in there and got me out of a club 342 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: and was like, you're a wife. Now, you can't just 343 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: be out every weekend. I said, see, this is what 344 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I already gave up my teenage. 345 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: Hood, right for sure. 346 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: Anyhow, so that's how. But anyhow, I woke him up 347 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: one morning, the sunbeaming in on his chocolate face. I 348 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: was like, hey, remember when I said I was gay, 349 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm still gay. This is not working. 350 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Wait when did you get the fourth kid? Though? 351 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the second time after the twins, right like Nacy 352 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: is like a year and a half. 353 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: It's not funny. But I want to take a quick 354 00:18:41,000 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: break from the show and then hear from our sponsors. Okay, 355 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: so after you have the third his third child, then 356 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: you say, you know what, I'm coming back off the closset. 357 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: I went in for a little bit. 358 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, this is not I don't want 359 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: to do this. Every time you on top of me. 360 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: This child is my body's going from small to big 361 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: to big to small. It's too much. I don't want it. 362 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: Got three kids? You tell him, hey, man, I'm done 363 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: with this life. 364 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: Yes, this is not the life with God. 365 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: Chrispy okay, and you yes you got to gay now? 366 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: Yes, and here's the four kids with four now okay. 367 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: But here's the thing I had already read somewhere in there. 368 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: They said, it's count of the cost. I had to decide. 369 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: Do I want to be unhappy and raise these children 370 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: as a person that's or do I leave? 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 372 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: Right, it's not fair to him. It's not fair to me. 373 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: For sure, I just can't. 374 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: So I left for hood, went back to Mississippi to 375 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: my mom, got a job at the Blue Cross, Blue Shield. 376 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: Not even when I say, Kevin, what happened August two 377 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: thousand and eight? Now two thousand and six? Was it 378 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: two thousand and six? Hurrican Katrina? 379 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I should be doing this podcast. 380 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what I got stuff to do later. 381 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: I don't know how close we got to be, because 382 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: wherever you go, something happened. 383 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: And I said, I just got here my cutlast thing 384 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: I stolen. 385 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: Oh come on, I bought it. 386 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: In cash from one of them boys and not the cutlass. 387 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: So I already knew with the rims in the base 388 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: that somebody was coming. I was starting my life. Oh 389 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: I was ready storm ca Yeah, I said, oh no, 390 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: And that's how I ended up in Kentucky. Got one 391 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: of my friends was like, come to Kentucky and I 392 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: was like, Kentucky. People don't wear shoes at Kentucky. And 393 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: I was like, you're in Mississippi. I was like, that's true. 394 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 2: So that's how it ended up. 395 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So they how do you rebuild from homelessness to 396 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars business? 397 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: Like? 398 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: What's your first You suck you in the motel? Yes, 399 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 1: you pray to God like you've got to fix me, 400 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: fix this. What starts happening. 401 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: The first thing I do is just like when I 402 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: first came to Kentucky after Contrida, I said, I gotta 403 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: get a job. That's the first thing. I never not 404 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: had a job. So I went through Kelly Services, got 405 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: a temp job. It was doing right tax season about 406 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: to start. So I'm working at Republic Bank in their 407 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: tax department for Jackson Hewitt, and I am looking through 408 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: the newspaper because again, nobody knows I'm homeless. I'm going 409 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: to work every day looking for places. I found this 410 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: place and somebody was like, you don't want to live 411 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 2: in West Louisville. I was like, what's Swiss Louisville. It's like, 412 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: you know, that's where my people are. I don't have 413 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: a problem with my people. I actually went down there. 414 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: This is February by now found a house. It was 415 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: a five bedroom house. Oh wow, seven fifty a month. Wow, 416 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: this is twoenty twelve, twenty twelve. 417 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, we. 418 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: Move into the house out of the motel. All the things, 419 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm working, and I get on Facebook and I've always 420 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: been into fashion. At the time, there was this app 421 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 2: called Polyvard, and you could put outfits together, like the shoes, 422 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: the clothes, to skirt, all the things without a model 423 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: in it. You can just put the collages together. I 424 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: started just making those collages and building a page that 425 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: went viral, like people were just like, are you selling 426 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: these clothes? And this was just to give style ideas 427 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: to women that you know, you could say your. 428 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: Heart, you ain't trying to make money. 429 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: And people always equate followers to money. So I think 430 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: I started at you know, something I posted, I remember 431 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: it went viral. I was sitting at one of those 432 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: Twilight movies. In the movies, my phone is going off 433 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: and I was like, something I posted went viral and 434 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: the page just started to grow. And one of my 435 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: followers I'll never forget her name is Shelley. I always 436 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: talk about Shelley. She on a boutique in Atlanta, and 437 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: she contacted me and she was like, I seen your 438 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: pieces put together. Have you ever thought about opening a boutique. 439 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to do retail. That's 440 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: not something I want to do. She said, well, I 441 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: own a boutique in Atlanta. I would like for you 442 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: to come on as a buyer to pick out clothes 443 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: and I sell those clothes, you know. And we tried 444 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: it for like maybe a month and a half, two months, 445 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: and she kept saying, no, I think you would do 446 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: really well with this. A stranger. She just followed me 447 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 2: online and we started talking random and she came up 448 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: from Atlanta. She actually no. We flew to Vegas met 449 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: her in Vegas at one of the magic shows where 450 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: you have the vendors and picking out outfits, and she 451 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: taught me everything she poured into me an absolute stranger. 452 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: Now he doesn't help you out. Now you know you 453 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: got pregnant, you did lost up, but he doesn't sent 454 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: you that angel yes by way, Shelley. 455 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god. I opened my 456 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: boutique March twenty thirteen online ten months by the time 457 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: December rolled around and at ten ninety nine, Kate came 458 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: in from PayPal said I'm going to jail. I said, 459 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to jail A do Ain't no way. I 460 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: made this much money from social media and I went through, 461 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: you know, made sure I had everything situated with the 462 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: on the state website. 463 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: And other things. 464 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: But I was like, ain't no way in the world. 465 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: I have done this and every year after that. And 466 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: one of the things I always talk about keV is 467 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: COVID because when you have overcome so much, you forget 468 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: until you don't. And I'm like, soon as the girl, 469 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: as soon as Anderbysher said we have to shut down 470 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: businesses in twenty twenty, I so I'm gonna be back homeless. 471 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be eating beans on the side of the road. 472 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't know why I go to beans and CA 473 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: I gotta stop watching television, you know, yes, And I'm like, 474 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: oh no. I laid in the bed for seven days. 475 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: I got up, I showered, I got back into bed. 476 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: My stomach was hurt, and I was trying to figure 477 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: out what am I gonna do? Because I've had this 478 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: business by now, I've been on the Steve Harvey Show, 479 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: say yes to the dress, like, I have all the 480 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: things that I've been doing, and now we're in a 481 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: panoramic a pandemonium and nobody's gonna need close. Okay. At 482 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: the time, I had two locals in the mall and 483 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: all the things. I was like, what am I gonna do? 484 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: And on the seventh day, got in the shower, I 485 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: was like, are you gonna have to do something? You 486 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: have to do it clear as day. It's like, we're 487 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: gonna need masks. And I told my wife at the time. 488 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: She was like, no, it's gonna need masks. And this 489 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: is why you don't listen to people they don't have businesses. 490 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: Is this is why you don't listen. 491 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: If you had a business, you would understand, but you don't. 492 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: You know, And she was like, mask. I went out, 493 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: I got rhymestones and all the things. But I also 494 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: already had manufacturers in China overseas. Got on WhatsApp immediately 495 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: I said, don't send me another skirt shirt top. 496 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: Got them skirts off into little square and throw some 497 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: bands on them. 498 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: We're gonna need masks. Yeah, And I announced April first 499 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: that I had PPE. By April thirtieth, that was my 500 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 2: largest year in my business. It was over sixty K 501 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: in one month. Why had masks? I had the full suits, 502 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: I had the hand sanitizer, all the things. 503 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: I just pivoted all the way. 504 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: I pivoted all the way and that took me through 505 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one until I reopened, you know, in stores. 506 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: But it was the moment of me trying to figure 507 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: out what am I going to do because I can't 508 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: lose this business that has helped me and my family. 509 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: For sure, I has changed my life. What am I 510 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: going to do? And at that moment, I still do that. Now. 511 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 2: I was like, go back to what I know. 512 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: I was wondering, do you still have a boutique. 513 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I closed the boutique. I didn't officially, 514 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: I just shut it down because my mom. So my 515 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: mom was diagnosed with dementia and she's in stage five now. 516 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, yes, So me and my brother are taking 517 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: care of her. So once a month for a week, 518 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: I go home now that I'm married, but when I 519 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: was there, it's just me and my brother taking care 520 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: of my mom. And that has been hard on us 521 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 2: because she she was alike, She is so amazing, and 522 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: her not to recognize us now or know us is devastated. 523 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: And me and my brothers are ten years apart, and 524 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: he is just the glue, right. He's a big teddy 525 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: bear and he wants to make sure I'm okay, but 526 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: Mom's okay, and we're at a point. He's thirty five, 527 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm about to be forty five, and we thought that 528 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: this is the time we would be sharing all our 529 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: great things with her, you know, all the things that 530 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: we're doing. So I closed the boutique twenty twenty two, 531 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three so that I could care for her 532 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: full time. And then he moved in my house with 533 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: me twenty twenty four to help me. 534 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: This is Louisville. Yes, okay, yes, so. 535 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: We still have the house and I just go back 536 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: and forth. 537 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Got it, Yeah, got it? 538 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 539 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break. We'll be right back. 540 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: Let's switch gears. The woman who didn't believe in the masks? Okay, okay, y'all, 541 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: y'all ain't together no more. No, Now, I got to 542 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: tell you the storage thunder. Oh lord, I had forgotten 543 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: because I saw you at an event and I forgot 544 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: you got divorced. I said, no, I don't you know 545 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: what I do. Remember that video. You talked about it 546 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: publicly before I could see it on a blog or 547 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: a thread or a tweet or gossip site. You was like, yes, 548 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: let me tell you what's going on. What was your 549 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: reasoning for beating everybody to the punch? 550 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh? So here's the thing. I was getting online and 551 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: seeing videos of her stating that I just didn't love 552 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: her correctly. And you know, I had a weight loss 553 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: surgery now, and it was none of that. It was 554 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: none of that. I came into this world small. I 555 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: was small up until I wasn't small. Wait doesn't change 556 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: who I am, right, So that wasn't it. And I 557 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: was like, let me just go ahead and say, what's 558 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: really happening? Okay, and Kevin, let me tell you. August 559 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: twenty three, I pulling out of the driveway and my 560 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: daughter says to me, Mama, there's something on the door. 561 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: And I get out my truck and I'll walk up 562 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: to the door. And biggest day is an eviction notice 563 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: on the door. I'm never in my life. I've never 564 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: in my life. I've never in my life. I don't 565 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: understand what's happening. I immediately call her and it's like, 566 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: there's an eviction notice on the door, and I don't understand. 567 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: She said, I'll take care of it. Must be a mistake. 568 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: Let me call the people. It was not a mistake, 569 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: was correct. I was like, where where is the money 570 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: that I give you? 571 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: Some people spending money from you, it's stelling money for you, 572 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: are getting you pregnant. 573 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. 574 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: Can somebody be a help? 575 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. You already know my trauma money 576 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: and being homeless and going from homeless to where I am, 577 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: and you decide to take me back to a place 578 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: that and here's the crazy part. And now this time 579 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: you can't take me back to zero. I'm not going 580 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: back to ze. So when it comes out about my 581 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: money being taken and I'm being used and cheated, on 582 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: all the things right, because I didn't find out all 583 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: at once. Gradually I contact my friends and they're like, well, girl, 584 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: she owe me money to my friends. These are my friends. 585 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, what, yeah, call somebody else. Yeah, she owes 586 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: me money too. I'm calling to tell them about what's 587 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: currently happening. 588 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: She was borrowing money from your friends behind your back 589 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: and not And. 590 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: I was like, why, I said, why you didn't say 591 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: that's my first thing? Why you didn't tell me they're 592 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: my friends. It's like, well, off the strength of you. 593 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: I didn't want to say nothing. No, you should say 594 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: something to me. And the last and final thing was 595 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: one of my friends who owns a nonprofit. I had 596 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: did some work because I'm a content creator at this point, 597 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: and I did some work and they was like, I 598 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: have reached out because you were traveling to your wife 599 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: to pay you for the work that you had done. 600 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: And they sent me a screenshot of the message that 601 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: says just send it to me, no send it like 602 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: I had proof upon proof, and I was like, there's 603 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: no way in the world. And here's the thing, keV. 604 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm the military doesn't untrain you when they release you. 605 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: They just release you. And for years, I have, you know, 606 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: squashed my anger issues that I have because I don't 607 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: have a problem with snatching your soul from your body. 608 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: So I go, I go in the house, and I 609 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: was like, in two days has passed. I said a 610 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: word because I'm angry. She yells out, I'm not going 611 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: another day without you speaking to me. You mad at me, 612 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: Oh Lord, for not speaking to you. I said, I 613 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: I have to go to New York Fashion Week and 614 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: Beyonce's concert. You better be glad. I have things like 615 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 2: I have things to do. So I left, I went 616 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: to New York Fashion Week, came back. She called while 617 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: I was there, are you coming home or not? I'm 618 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: never coming back. Well, I'm so confused as to why 619 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: we got evictim anyway, ain't I'm not I'm not coming back. 620 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 2: My best friend picks me up from the airport when 621 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: I get back from New York Passion Week. I stay there. 622 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: She say, you got ten days. You got ten days 623 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: to soap and scream and cry. She took care of me, 624 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: put me up in the room. She was like, and 625 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: after that we got it work. It didn't take me 626 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 2: ten days. It took me five days before I went 627 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: over to that courthouse and when I pulled up, it 628 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: made a skirt sound. Went through them doors. I said, 629 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: point me to where I can file for a divorce 630 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: m and the guy was looking like a frantic cause 631 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I need don't I just want the 632 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: paperwork and he was like, well, it's usually five dollars, sir, 633 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: I don't care about nothing. Give me. And then the 634 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: lady next to him was like, just just give her 635 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: the papers. I went downstairs to one of them law 636 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: and order the desk with the lamp and filled out 637 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: that paperwork. Okay, I end the court. I here it is. 638 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: Oh h I I'm not I'm not going through it. 639 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: One of the things my mom and my dad has 640 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: always told me, you can always leave a situation. And 641 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 2: keV I don't give chances with people. Because the one 642 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 2: chance that I did give is when the dining room 643 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 2: table got repolled. That's the one. 644 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: Yes. 645 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. At the time, she told me 646 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: that her mama had gifted us a dining room table. 647 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty two, Lord, there was a knock 648 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: at the door, and this take a table to take 649 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: a table that was forty dollars a week, forty. 650 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: Dollars a week from because he's got a table from 651 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: Goodwill for forty dollars once. 652 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: I could have bought it. I could have bought. You 653 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: lied to me about the table where it came from. 654 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: And then you had these people come. 655 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: To my door a table renting furniture TV. I understand 656 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: renting a table. 657 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: I don't even sit in a dining room. I'm a 658 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: room person. I'm in a bed. 659 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: How long were y'all renting the table? 660 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 661 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: The table don't cost six grandmother, why. 662 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: Would you lie about a table? So when I when 663 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: I confronted her about that in December of twenty twenty two, 664 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: I said, if I find out that you're lying to 665 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: me about because I don't do lie, I don't. 666 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: It's unders So the table was the lie. That was 667 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: the chance. 668 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 669 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: And then the eviction was we go out of here. Yeah. 670 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm done. 671 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: I feel you. Yeah, because you had left that table. 672 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: I would understood. 673 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 2: That's and I left for a few days. I went 674 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: and stayed at the Omni. I was hot, do you 675 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: hear me? I was like a table and I was like, 676 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: it's the principal for sure, But then you got people 677 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: from her church contact to me, don't don't get divorced. 678 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: It's just a kitchen table. 679 00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: You know, that's how. 680 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: But it's the principle if you lab scratch, a live 681 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: fine a thief. 682 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: If you would have told you on the table, Okay, 683 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: we rented the table. We rented the table, but I 684 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: didn't believe you, and you said it was a gift. 685 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: And then people said, give us our table, since you 686 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: ain't got the forty this week, give it here. I 687 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: don't care what you eat on, give us our table 688 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: with that? Was it because you're famous on social media 689 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: at this time? Was that an added strain for you 690 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: to have to go through that publicly? 691 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 2: Yes, it really was. And I wanted to because people 692 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 2: kept asking because at the time they were sitting like inflatables, 693 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: you know what we're doing the decorating for Halloween and Christmas 694 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: and all the things. So when it was coming around 695 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: to that time and people were like, are we doing 696 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: inflatables this year? All the things kept addressing and I 697 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: was like, I have to tell them now that we 698 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: are getting a divorce, I gotta say something because and 699 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 2: then it just blew up from there, which was fine. 700 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 2: That goes back to me already learning that people are 701 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: feelful already. People blame me that I should have known 702 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: that my bills were and pay Rashonda has accounts. That's 703 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: why I was upset about the table if you if 704 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: we needed something, you know, and even their mom was like, well, 705 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: you know, she was just trying to keep up with you. No, no, no, no, 706 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 2: no no no. I own a boutique. I can buy 707 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: things wholesal the gowns that you all see me with. 708 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 2: I'm not paying thousands of dollars. No, You're not trying 709 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: to keep up with me. I'm not trying to put 710 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: on for anybody. This is just who I am, so 711 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not taking the blame for that. You 712 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: were not honest with me, and because of that, I'm 713 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: now publicly sho I'm going through a public eviction, my 714 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: first eviction in my life, and it's public, okay. I'm like, no, 715 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: and people were, you know, they had their opinions about 716 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: what I should have known, what I shouldn't have known. 717 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: People are who they are until they show you or not. 718 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: Like for me, there was no other thing other than 719 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: that tape that I was like, there was nothing. 720 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: Else yeah for me. Yeah. 721 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: So when I was like, oh okay, and then when 722 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: my friends started coming forward, I was, of course heated 723 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: with them. Y'all could have been told me, you know, 724 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: so I had to leave. I was like, I'm and 725 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 2: it was easy. 726 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: So you're married now, But take us back to post table, 727 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: post eviction. Are you like, I'm just gonna take a break. 728 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: You absolutely so, what because I met your wife, sweet person, 729 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: and you seem very happy. So fill us in that 730 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: time period between when they took that table, they say, hey, 731 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: give us that. I don't care where you put your cereal, 732 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: and now you're happily buried. 733 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: Well, I focus. And here's the thing. When I filed 734 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: for divorce in twenty twenty thirty, from that day it 735 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 2: just got bigger and bigger. I was booked and busy, 736 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 2: so I wasn't even like soaking. I didn't have time 737 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: to do any of that. I was out here working, 738 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 2: and I absolutely loved that. But that's what I wanted 739 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: to do. My children are grown. I don't have, you know, 740 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: to be at home. And for me, it was getting 741 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 2: to know who I was outside because for the longest, 742 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: even in high school, twenties, all the things. There were 743 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: always people that wanted to marry me, and I felt 744 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: like I don't want to be I could not, for 745 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: the life of me understand why. Right. I was like, 746 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to be just I feel restrained. Okay, 747 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: And so at that moment, I'm flying free. I'm in 748 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: the streets, I'm dating, I'm doing all the things. I'm 749 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 2: having fun, but I'm going home to the peace. Okay. 750 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 2: I got my three piece pajama, said on I'm watching 751 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: TV and I'm having fun. But I was booked for 752 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: Denver Black Pride. I was contacted via email for Denver 753 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: Black Pride, and I came up to visit it before 754 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: the gala, and soon I was just on the on 755 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: the phone in an argument anyway with somebody else, and 756 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I sick of women. I'm tired get you're. 757 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: Pregnant every time you might you might stay over there. 758 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: As soon as I walked out, I hung the phone. 759 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not arguing with you. I'm going 760 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. I'm single. I walk out and 761 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 2: this vehicle pulls up and baby gets out, and I'm like, 762 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: I just what did I say? What? Did, I just said, 763 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: because we had we had only emailed and had a 764 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: phone conference. I didn't know what baby looked like, but 765 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 2: all I did. As a matter of fact. 766 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: I just lied to myself. 767 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 2: I just lied. I just lied. And I get in 768 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: a car and we are talking as if we have 769 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: known each other forever, like you just picked me up 770 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 2: from the airport. I've been gone for a minute and 771 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm back. And that's how we just fell into each other. 772 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: And it was amazing. I was like, you got your 773 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: own thing, you got nonprofits, you running all the things. 774 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: You don't need anything from me. You have your own Does. 775 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: She have a table? 776 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh her own birth date. Said that to me, 777 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 2: and I said, see this is how I know y'all 778 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 2: watched social media. Babe said you see that table over there, 779 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 2: I own it my table. 780 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody coming And I heard taking that table, so 781 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: you was up. 782 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:40,959 Speaker 2: It was a good table. 783 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: It's big table. 784 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, nice one, this. 785 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: Is all this is thirty table. Yes, I said, oh, okay, wow. 786 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: Yes, PhD amazing real Yeah, yes, because you know yes 787 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 2: about the sexual transmitting degrees. No, yes, see now I 788 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 2: have a PhD. Because my wife has a PhD. And 789 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 2: I need you to understand that. 790 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Rajohn. 791 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 2: Thank you. 792 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: So now it seems like things are going well. 793 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: Yes, things are going My life is a mate. I 794 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: wake up every day happy, doing all the things that 795 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 2: I love that I said I was I would do. So. 796 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: The saddest part is my mom. Like, in the back 797 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: of my mind, it's always student loans in my mom. 798 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: Right, some student loans gonna be there. They ain't gonna 799 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: they ain't gonna never let you loose. 800 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 2: I could be enjoying my I was at the Beyonce 801 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: concert Renaissance, I mean, screaming my head off and someone 802 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: was like, did you pay your Why would I why? 803 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,479 Speaker 2: Right now? 804 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: Ruining the vibes. 805 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's my mom. I think about that a lot. 806 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: But other than that, I mean, my children are healthy, 807 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: They're doing well. 808 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: One of the ages of your kids now. 809 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: My oldest will be thirty one in July. 810 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: Wow, I know that's crazy. 811 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 2: Twins will be twenty five on my birthday in July. 812 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: Every year, every year they gonna take your birthday over 813 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: this selfish Yes. 814 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 2: In this month. The nacy of my youngest will be 815 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: twenty three on the twenty seventh of May. 816 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: Wow, So you got adults? 817 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, and they call you with adults. I 818 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: can't wait for your boys to call you a thing. 819 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: You're like, WHOA, don't wish that on me. 820 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 2: They call you with the adult things, and I'm. 821 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: Like, my kids are going through that now, my oldest 822 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: and youngest in different ways. They ain't the same problems. 823 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: This girl don't like me. Somebody called me. These people 824 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: got some issue. Their friend group is going through some stuff, 825 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 1: and you got to be trying to be cool. Yes, 826 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,439 Speaker 1: but it'd be like the worst thing you ever heard. 827 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: You'd be like, no, yeah, okay, yeah, So what you 828 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: want to do is I thought y'all was like I 829 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: thought you want to go to chuck. It feel like 830 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: I was just taking the chunky cheese. 831 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. And because I grew up watching you, 832 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 2: watching them grow up, I understand what you and your 833 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: wife are going through. Right, So when my children call, 834 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I don't something. Can you just keep 835 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 2: it like? I know I'm the mom and I'm you know, 836 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: it's like, no, I can. 837 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: Talk to my mom about anything. 838 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 2: Some things I don't. I don't want you to. 839 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: So before we let you go, I want to talk 840 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: about your your It's a really very simple podcast because 841 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: when I saw that first clip, I said, oh, this 842 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: is gonna be I can't wait. What made you decide 843 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: to do that? What's the impetus behind it? Because it 844 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: seems like a good time. 845 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 2: Okay, So it's really very simple podcast. It's just going 846 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: to be an extension of me at the board. We're 847 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 2: going to elaborate on various life lessons, things that we 848 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: that life has taught me. 849 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: Lord, you learned a lot. 850 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 2: I learned a lot and things that other people have. 851 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 2: So I will have guests on but mostly it's just 852 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: me because here's the thing. I have lived a lot. 853 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 2: A lot. 854 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: You got plenty to talk about. 855 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: I have lived a lot of lives and I want 856 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: people to understand that if you pay attention, you'll learn 857 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: something from it. I got this one one segment called 858 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 2: worry about your brows and that, and that is really 859 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 2: just to say stop being the people's being like, worry 860 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 2: about yourself. You don't you have things to. 861 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: Do, Okay, so specific you're. 862 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 2: Worried about what people do with their hair, what people 863 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 2: do with their bodies, worry about your brow? Yes, yeah, 864 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: I don't don't they are. I think that proper skincare 865 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 2: includes minding your business and drinking water. We can't get 866 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 2: on here talking about other people and what they have 867 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 2: going on. I don't understand it. 868 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: No, I think so. I have so many catchphrases, minding 869 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: your business and proper skincare during your water, Yes, and 870 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: leave me alone. God, I love that. You've been amazing. 871 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: Before you go tell the people the things you say 872 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: at the end of the podcast so they can if 873 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: they don't know you by now, I don't know how, 874 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: but they want to follow? Where can they follow? 875 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 2: You? Follow me on all social media at Rashonda Lias. 876 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: I think on TikTok TikTok, I'm still shop Aif, but 877 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 2: you can type in. 878 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: Never knew why your name was that? Really the boutique 879 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: I just got because you would say I'm Reyshonda in 880 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 1: the video and you know TikTok the name at the beginning. 881 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't coincide. 882 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 2: Shop Aif was shop always Farique. 883 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: Okay, got it, Ladies and gentlemen, Rashonda Lias very funny, 884 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: very talented. Follow her listen to her podcast. She is 885 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: a good time as you can see one of our 886 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: funnier episodes, which I knew it would be. God bless you. 887 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: Got keep you. We'll see you next week. This has 888 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: been a Unanimous Media original. Not My Best Mama was 889 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: produced by iHeart Podcast and Unanimous Media. It was hosted 890 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 1: by Me Kevin Fredericks. Exactly You're produced by Stephen Curry, 891 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: Eric Payton, and Charlotte Sumter Rigette Co executive producer Klena 892 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: Maria Cutney. The executive producers of the iHeart Podcast are 893 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: Sean Titone and Jason English. This series was produced by 894 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: Peter Calter and Jabbari Davis. Co producer Kurt Redman. Special 895 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: thanks to Stephen Curry and Will Pearson. Not My Best 896 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: Moment as a production of Unanimous Media and iHeart Podcasts. 897 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 898 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.