WEBVTT - Yeti: The Asian Bigfoot 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.560 Welcome to Stuff you should Know from how Stuff Works 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:14.120 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.439 and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.439 there somewhere over there, And this is stuff you should know, 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:28.760 the Continuing Cryptozoology Edition. Oh, this finishes it, right. Oh, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.480 I don't know about that. We've done Bigfoot, Locknest monster yetti. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:39.280 Well you haven't done like, um, moth Man. That's the Chupacabra. Chupacabra. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.960 That's a big one too. Yeah. This slender Man, Slenderman 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.320 is more Internet folklore than anything. Uh did we do 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.000 that one? Or did we think about it and not 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:52.479 do it? The ladder of those two? If I remember correctly, 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:58.360 I said it stinks or something. Yeah, if I remember correctly, 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:02.560 hurt my feelings. Oh my in I think it was. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.040 I think we could do slender Man now, it was 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.680 just so early on that Um it was very thin. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:13.840 Now I think it would be more robust. Yeah that's right. Um, well, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.280 today we're talking about the Yeti, which is not slender 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.759 Depending on which yetti you're talking about, Chuck, it's either 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.959 enormous and like eight feet tall, covered in gray or 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:33.280 white or maybe sometimes reddish hair, weighing four pounds easily 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.800 or actually it is kind of slender. It could be 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:43.800 basically what amounts to a wild hippie, basically a somebody 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.240 who likes to grub roots out of the ground and 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.200 lets out a squeal or a cry every once in 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.520 a while just to I guess know that they're alive. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:57.600 And um. There's really two competing versions of what those 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.400 of us in the Western world would would inc was 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.680 the Yeti. But the one we're really talking about is 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.320 the first one, what we also think of as the 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:11.680 abominable Snowman. How tall it was, hippie rob uh? He 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.200 was average like five something, I guess, like high five. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.120 He was a little shorter than me. Yeah right, he 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.840 was not. He was not the uh. He was not 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.600 the the Yeti of legend as far as I know. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.639 He could be now though well I don't know. It 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.680 just sounded an awful lot like him, kind of test 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:35.280 he opened in the mountains grubbing for roots, yep, covered 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.160 in dirt and with wild, crazy hair. So I think 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.480 we should just tell, like, if you don't know what 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:46.440 we're talking about, this is the um the legendary beasts 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:52.080 that lives in Asia. Yeah, around the Himalayas typically. Yeah, 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.640 so it's known as Asia's Bigfoot, or maybe Bigfoot is 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.240 known as North America's Yetti. I don't know, Uh, I 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.799 guess Yetti came first, right, Yeah, I think yet he's 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.959 been around with the Sherpa of Tibet for a very 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.000 long time. Yeah. And that's sort of the deal of this. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.400 The origin story of this thing is the Yetti has 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:18.080 been told um for many, many years in traditional stories 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.440 in that area. Um, there's a there was someone named 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.440 um Shiva dot Call that collected a bunch of these 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.640 stories in a book called folk Tales of Sherpa and Yetti, 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.640 and all of them kind of figured the same way, 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.680 which was whether it's a story called the Annihilation of 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.400 the Yetti uh, in which this is pretty good. It's 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.560 about sherpas seeking revenge on a tormenting group of Yettis 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.640 this sounds like something that should be on like the 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.680 Sci Fi channel. I would be very surprised if it wasn't. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.280 But all of these stories basically have the same moral 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:59.240 um message at the end, which is because it's sort 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.360 of like a grim's fairy tale. Like be careful out 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.560 on the woods. Actually, yeah exactly. I think it serves 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.760 the exact same purpose to like in the Grimm's fairy Tales, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.600 and I thought the same thing. Um, you know, there's 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.240 witches that live in candy houses, so don't go wandering 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.400 off in the woods kids, because you'll end up getting eaten. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.200 For little kids in Tibet, it was don't wander off 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.280 into the Tibetan plateau or the YETI will get you, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.679 and you will all sorts of terrible things will happen 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.120 to you, which is funny because they are all sorts 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.840 of real things that could kill you in the Tibetan plateau. Well, 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.880 that's why I think what they were saying was, you know, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.880 you can't just be like, look out for the bears. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.039 You can. Kid will be like, I don't know. I 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.080 can see a brash kid being like, no bear, everybody 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:44.800 knows what a bear is. All rustle a bear any 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.000 day of the week. And then you know, along the 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.839 way it gets into a drinking contest with Marion from 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:57.080 Indiana Jones right, right exactly. That was one of the 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.120 best scenes in the history of film. Yeah, I think so, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.719 And Tibetan kids tend to agree with me too. But 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.560 before we move on, I want to say one thing, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.800 that annihilation of the Yetti. Keep keep that in the 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.840 back of your mind. And the story was that, like, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.880 there are a bunch of Yetti that, um, we're hanging 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.520 around and the Sherpa we're sick of them hanging around. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.400 So the sherp but basically through a YETI party and 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.599 got drunk and fought with each other to kind of 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.880 provide an example to the Yetti. Hey, you should get 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.880 drunk and fight with each other too, in the hopes 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.440 of the Yeti would destroy each other. It didn't work, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.360 and the Yetti all managed to escape, except for one 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:39.400 who was supposedly killed by a a llama, one of 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:43.159 the Buddhist monks in the area. That's part of the story. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.719 That's the end. That's the annihilation of the Yetti story. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.320 I didn't know a Lama figured in. And really, annihilation 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.600 is kind of a strong word if you think about it, 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.920 because if you just killed one out of I think 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:59.679 two and forty Yeti, it's hardly annihilation. That's a good point. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:04.400 I think so too. Uh So, throughout history, these legends 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.480 have been pervasive in the region so much so that 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:14.760 supposedly the great Alexander or Alexander the Great, I'm that's 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.839 sure why I did that. When he came through town 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:23.160 and conquered the Indus Valley, he said, Uh, I can 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:27.560 see one of your famous I don't know if that's 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.279 what Alexander the Great sounded like. No, No, what did 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.520 ancient Roman sound like? I was he Roman? I think 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:40.800 he was Greek? That was he? Cheeze? How about really 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:47.040 screwed that up? Usa? I knew that do a German accent. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:52.080 I'm just slow. I'm just gonna leave. No, han, hank, 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.800 tight chuck, you can rebound. Yeah. Why why did I 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.320 think he was Roman in that Greek? Well, because the 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.039 Romans like to pretend they were Greek themselves. I'm not 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.160 firing on all cylinders. But regardless of my bad accent, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.560 or maybe I should just edit back in and say 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:11.040 that was my Greek accent. There you go. Uh he said, 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.840 I want to see a YETI and they the local 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.480 locals that were like, you know, we totally would do that. However, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.520 um that you can't get them down this low, and 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.720 you'd have to hike really high up in those mountains. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.320 And I know you're not down with that, so sorry, yeah, exactly. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.760 So I guess Alexander the Great was like, I'm board, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.040 I can't believe we're still talking about this. Give me 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.800 some wine. Pretty gotten a drinking contest, and that was that. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:40.480 So the yett he continued on in in Scherpa tradition 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:45.280 in Tibetan, Nepal, and Bhutan, but um in the West 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:49.320 it kind of disappeared from view until the twentieth century. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:54.160 And so remember these are tall tales that the the 0:07:54.200 --> 0:08:00.040 Scherpa teach their kids, although there is supposedly some I 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.920 guess general belief as well, but I can't I can't 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.200 quite penetrate it. But just imagine that it was just 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.840 strictly tall tales Serpa people told their kids. Then Westerners 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.400 came in and said, what is this you're talking about? 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.160 Tell us about this and just bought the whole thing 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.880 hook line and sinker. Yeah, and things really took for him. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:22.200 In nine there's a journalist named Henry Newman. He did 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:26.160 an interview with some British explorers. And this is a 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:31.040 time of great exploration, especially from the British. Uh these 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:36.800 sort of uh these, I guess uh, Indiana Jones, like 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.120 mountaineers who would go all over the world in search 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.840 of these you know, jungles and mountains in church of 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:46.440 crazy beasts and treasures and things like that. So, uh, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.200 he interviewed some of these guys and they said, you 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.320 know what, we found these huge footprints up in the 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:57.360 mountains and the locals there. I guess Serpa said, because 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.360 with in arpa the plural sharpa didn't me did from it? 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.040 I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Um, that was a good episode, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.760 by the way, everyone, it was go back and listen 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.600 to that one. What was the title of Warm, Friendly Living, Yeah, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.080 because that's I think what tending Nor said. So great. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:19.080 So they said that their guides are Sherpa guides. Um 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:24.800 called them mito kangm which the translation, the real translation 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:30.240 is a little awkward man bear snowman. Right, but Newman 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.840 confused all that. He got the snowman part right, but 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.800 he translated that first part to mean mato m e 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.880 t o h two mean filthy or dirty, and then 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.320 he changed that on his own to the word abominable, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.360 and that's the way we get the abominable snowman. Yeah, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.880 he was like, I don't like filthy Snowman. I'm going 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.520 to change the name that I've already gotten wrong, right 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.320 and turned it into abominable Snowman. Yeah, he really great journalist, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.720 But it's fascinating that you can trace it back to 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:06.000 this one dummy. That's the whole the abominable Snowman. That's 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.400 where it came from, was this one guy, and that 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.720 obviously just completely captured the attention of the rest of 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:15.319 the world when he he wrote this, because like this 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.200 was not just like, oh yeah, they heard about an 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.640 abominable snowman. It was these these explorers found tracks and 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.080 they're sure, but guides told them the trucks belonged to 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:29.600 this abominable snowman. Therefore, there are abominable snowmen living in 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.120 the Himalayas. And the explorer who was who led that 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:38.000 particular expedition was Charles Howard Berry Um Howard Hyphen Berry 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.240 b U R y and Um. Apparently he and Newman 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.359 were really big into promoting the idea of an abominable 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.360 snowman or men living in the Himalayas, and that it 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.760 just being like this giant, huge creature with shaggy hair 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.520 and very much akin to Bigfoot. But if you look 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.520 at the descriptions, the aditional descriptions of the YETI they're 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.960 they're much smaller and not nearly as huge as um. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.960 The Westerners kind of immediately made it out to be. Yeah, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.000 there was one description, one of the earlier written descriptions 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:17.400 from two There was a researcher named Mira Shackley, and 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:23.560 I believe that she got this information from uh, two 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.920 hikers that reported seeing the yetti. Uh, and this is 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.200 what they said. The height was not much less than 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:35.120 eight feet so tall for sure, but it's not like 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:39.400 it was ten ft tall. Uh. The head were the heads, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.319 because there were two of them, were described as squarish, 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.000 and the ears must lie close to the skull because 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.280 there was no projection from the silhouette against the snow. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.079 The shoulders sloped slowly down to a powerful chest covered 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.280 by reddish brown hair which formed a close body fur 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:59.640 mixed with long, straight hairs hanging downward about the size 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.360 and bill to a small man. The head covered with 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.280 long hair, but the face and chest not very hairy 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.800 at all. This this all sounds like they always describe 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:13.360 him as or it is bipedal right, means you know, 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.960 walking upright, right. But if you if you go back 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:21.080 and look at that description and how detailed it was. 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.280 Those hikers who gave the description said that they they 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:30.280 saw they saw all this from observing two black specks 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.360 moving across the snow about a quarter mile below them. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.160 And yet they could see that it had a thick 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.240 undercoat and like a very long, hairy overcoat and that 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:44.760 was reddish, and like that's just just basically perfect abominable 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:49.600 snowman sighting. Yeah, but but it's one of like many 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.719 like after after that Howard Berry expedition came back in 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.520 and Newman broadcasts to the world, people started going to 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.360 the Himalayas and droves, and they weren't just necessarily looking 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.400 for the abominable Stowe Man. Everest was there, and everybody 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.000 knew Everest was there, and a lot of people wanted 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.359 to be the first one to summit Everest, the first Westerner, 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.400 i should say, to summit Everest, so that while a 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.000 lot of them were in the area, they're like, well, 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.520 we'll look for the abominable snowman while we're here too. Yeah, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.559 and some pretty legendary mountaineers um and granted these are 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:26.720 not like zoologist or anything, but their respected men in 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:31.920 their field, people like Reinhold Messner and one Sir Edmund 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:36.040 Hillary both searched for evidence of the Eddy while they 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.400 were hiking. Uh and Messner even wrote a book called 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.720 My Quest for the Yetty, Confronting the Himalayas Deepest Mystery. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.160 But I mean, well, well, we'll save the big reveal 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.199 to the end or the third act of this show. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.400 Okay is your third act? Yeah, there's gotta be Okay, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.960 we're in big trouble. If there's not, well, why don't 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:58.720 we take a break and then we'll come back and 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.480 talk a little bit about a couple more of these 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.760 reported sightings. Let's do it all right, Well, now we're 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.240 on the road, driving in your truck. Want to learn 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.160 a thing or two from Josh Damp Chuck stuff you 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:31.400 should know, all right, to Chuck? Okay, Chuck. So, uh, 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.680 we've we've started to get some sightings from expeditions that 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.120 are going to Everest and just hanging around the Himalayas 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:44.480 um and then I think in nineteen one, something really 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.640 big happened. One of those explorers, Eric Shipton, took a 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:53.800 photograph of a track that to this day looks pretty remarkable. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.000 Actually yeah. I mean this is again it's not like 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.320 hard evidence, but this is a very famous otto. I 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.800 remember seeing this when I was a kid, and like, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.040 I guess it was probably the Guinness or Ripley's Believe 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.560 It or Not or something. It was Time Life books 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.320 for me, was it? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I remember that. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.000 It's a very famous picture of a like a a 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:19.040 pick because you know pick axe yeah, used for scale, Yeah, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.240 right next to it. And I remember that very distinctly. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.960 When I saw this picture, I was like, oh yeah. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.080 And then when you look at it, you're like, wait, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.640 that that doesn't look quite right. That's a really weird track. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.000 It's it looks like an elongated human foot, but rather 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:39.200 than a left toe. Um, it's it's got, it's kind 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.200 of bulbous and weird. It doesn't look like the other toes, 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.520 and it certainly doesn't look like what a human toe 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.480 should look like. And it's also huge. I think it 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.880 was measured about thirteen inches, which is a pretty typical 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.560 size for a YETI track from what I understand over 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:58.280 the ages. But the thing about it is it is 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:03.960 a nice, crisp, fresh track. And the other thing about 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.560 and this is what really captured the attention of the world. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:11.120 Eric Shipton was not known to be a particularly fraudulent person. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.680 He was a very respected explorer and mountaineer. He knew 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.080 the area well and as a guy who has tracked 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.120 Yettie his whole life. Um, I believe his name is 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.800 Daniel Taylor. Um. Daniel Taylor put it. If if Shipton 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.000 is coming back with a picture of a track, you 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.360 just you know, it's a real track. It's not faked, 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.840 it's not a hoax. So the question was what was it? 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:40.440 And this is one and it hit the world. That picture, 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.120 that track hit the world like the surgeon's photo of 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.280 the Lockness Monster hit the world at back in ninety three. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:51.520 It just became like proof to people who believe in 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.960 the Yettie around the world that the Yetie definitely exists. Yeah, 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.760 I mean, like you said, it was really Um what 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.240 what made it different than other photos? That it was 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.199 so sharp, it was a really good picture. Um. And 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:09.600 that that little um toe thing basically looked like a 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.360 thumb and it just, you know, it looked odd. But 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.680 this this Daniel Taylor guy, he actually when I started 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.639 reading that article, I thought, oh boy, this crack pot. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.080 But he actually turned out to be a pretty cool 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.960 guy because he'd spent a lot of his life looking 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.320 for the Yeti. Went over there, even met with the 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.280 King of Nepal, and the King of Nepal said, well, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.960 if you want to go like to the wildest place 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.040 and the most you know, remote place in our land, 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.560 go to Barroon b a r U n this Baroun valley. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.760 And he went there and he looked around and he 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.160 uh did not find a yeti. But what he did 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.840 do was ended up helping to work towards conservation of 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.960 that area, which was kind of a nice silver lining 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.480 to his story was he got there and he was like, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.239 this is of the most beautiful places on Earth, right 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.000 and one of the greatest wilderness wildernesses I've ever been to. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.480 He realized it wasn't protected and that like Chinese loggers 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.520 were infringing on one side and farmers were infringing on 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.560 the other. So he kind of spun it into like 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.879 good work doing conservation work in that area, which was 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.640 kind of cool. Yeah, you got it turned into a 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:26.240 national park in Nepal. It's a protected area now, which 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:31.240 is significant. Have you seen pictures of the valley it's astounding. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.440 It's one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.919 in my life, and it was just being used because 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.040 the people living there like, well, we need this land. Yeah, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.040 it's beautiful, but we can't afford to preserve it because 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.360 a lot of people around here live on fifteen dollars 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.280 a year um. So they were just making use of 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.080 it however they could. And he he came in with 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:51.880 the government said no, no, no more of that, get 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.040 out of here. This is protected now. But it is 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.120 gorgeous and his his he had actually been raised there. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.960 Daniel Taylor's grandparents were miss canaries in the Himalayas, and 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.679 his parents kind of took over his grandparents work, so 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:06.879 he was raised in the Himalayas. So he'd been looking 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.919 for the eddies whole life. But when he went to 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:13.720 the baron Um, he feels like he found the answer 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.639 to that track that it was a kind of tree bear. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.719 But there's there's a big problem with that. The Barun 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:24.160 Valley is a subtropical rainforest, so a tree bear living 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.280 in there wouldn't survive very very well in the snow 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:31.879 and the Tibettan Tibetan plateau, you know, ten ten thousand 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.080 or more feet higher up the mountain, So it doesn't 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.639 really solve the mystery much, no, but his notion that 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.440 it could have been a tree bear makes a little 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.760 more sense with these tracks, because a tree bear does 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.320 have a um I don't I don't know if you 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.200 call it a thumb, but some sort of opposable digit 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.720 to make climbing easier, and that that would at least 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.440 explain this weird thumblike thing in these prints. It would. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.800 So he's got like half of the thing explained. The 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.240 other half is what the heck was that tree bears, 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.200 the subtropical rainforest tree bear doing up in the mountains 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.639 of the Himalayas, you know what I'm saying, Like in 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.720 the snow above the snow line, I guess, is what 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.879 I'm trying to say. But the other thing about that 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.800 um that shipped in photo that became world famous for 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:22.760 the yetti um was that, like the track itself, was 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.600 very crisp. And there's a guy named Benjamin Radford who's 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.600 a skeptic who has written a lot about the Yetti 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:35.000 um and in particular how how difficult obtaining yetti tracks 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.280 could be, or actually, more to the point how easy 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.879 it would be to confuse the normal animals tracks or 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:46.600 something weird because of the fact that the snow is 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.800 a terrible medium for tracks, because like say a bear 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.600 walks through an area, leaves some tracks in the snow. 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.199 The next morning, as the sun comes up and it 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.840 hits the tracks and it shoots all that heat on 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.560 this under that track, it starts to melt the sides, 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.760 maybe elongate it, maybe make the toes look splayed, And 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.879 it just doesn't resemble a bear track anymore at all. 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.800 It looks like something weird and and and um not 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:17.560 previously known, like an entirely new species. That's the thing 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:21.560 about the shift in photograph that captured everyone's attention. It 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.560 doesn't look like that at all. It looks sharp new, 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.480 it doesn't look melted at all. The edges are clean 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:30.680 and crisp. That's why I think really kind of struck everybody. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.960 It wasn't like a melted, mangled track. It was like 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.960 a new track by something that was not immediately identifiable. Yeah, 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.280 for sure. So there have been other photographs through the years. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:47.760 Uh as you know, supposed evidence in hiker name Anthony 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:52.560 Wooldridge UM said there's a YETI over there, he's about 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.560 five feet away, and uh, he saw a bunch of 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.960 tracks in the snow that looked like that was going 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:04.320 that way, and he took some photographs that were proven genuine. 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.240 But I think by genuine that just means they weren't faked. Yeah, 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.800 that's what I That's how I understand it, because wasn't 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.679 this the photo that they said, actually those are just 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:19.640 rocks standing up, Yeah, like rock outcropping or whatever. Yeah, 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:24.040 this guy was also a respected mountaineer and explorer in 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.080 New the area really well. And so when he came 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.000 back with this photo and they said this photo wasn't faked, 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:33.280 it's not been doctored. People people listen to him too. 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.760 But it just turns out he was wrong. This photo 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.760 of rocks has not been doctored exactly. That's that's ultimately 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.520 what they were saying. Because another expedition went back to 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.560 the same spot the next year and we're like, oh, yeah, 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.439 that's that's those rocks over there. And even even in 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:52.240 his account, um, that guy what was his name, Woodridge, 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:59.520 Woodridge says like, yeah, they just stood there motionless, Yeah 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.560 they were they were still his boulders up brave boulders. 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:05.400 But the other thing is he swore that there were 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.879 tracks leading up to it, so he he seemed to 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:10.520 think that that they really were there. But from what 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.600 I understand, he was earnest in his report. It wasn't 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.680 like a fraud or a hoax or anything like that. 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.160 And I think he was a little a little red 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:21.400 faced afterward. Probably. Yeah, they even made a movie about 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:26.680 it called Ernest Goes Hiking. All right, Ernest Saves Christmas 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.160 with the Abominable Snowman. I'll bet Ernest did save Christmas 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.000 in one movie. I guarantee there was a movie called 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.200 Ernest Saves Christmas. I think I think there was right now. 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.040 The only one I'm a d percent sure of his 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.879 Ernest Goes to Camp. I never saw any of those. 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.399 My family saw that movie in the theater Top Dollar, 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.480 Top Dollar, which was three dollars. Yeah, I guess, I 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.000 hope so at the time, which is surprising because my 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.359 mom used to sneak in bolt candy from like the 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:59.080 little store across the way from the movie theater in 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.959 Southwick Mall. Yeah, we know that move in our family. 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:06.120 It works works really well. Uh So, over the years, 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.120 there have been not only things like, oh, look footprints, 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:13.479 or hey, look at that rock across the valley. Uh. 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:18.399 There there have been Uh. I don't want to call 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:24.760