Speaker 1: Lord, did you see this? This is savage. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not No, I'm not on this or that. No, I'm
Speaker 1: saying that they got the game. I took the front room.
Speaker 1: Let's go, man, Let's get it, Lord, let's get it.
Speaker 1: Take it the truth, baby, let's get it. Certain faster
Speaker 1: and certific certified, certain certified, certain certain, certain fast certain
Speaker 1: it's a green summer. Yeah, we built differently. He ain't
Speaker 1: watching the games like I'm watching it again. You outside,
Speaker 1: we're alive. That's when you stop production. That we going back,
Speaker 1: that we want the Laker game front row.
Speaker 2: That ship as funny as fuck. No, he's sitting there
Speaker 2: smiling at the digg the free throw. A lot of
Speaker 2: that ship had me crying.
Speaker 1: Let's get it to it, Nate's a lot going on, boy,
Speaker 1: all right, So the Lakers get swept by Okay, it's
Speaker 1: the four time Lebron's been swept in his career. Hold on,
Speaker 1: man hold on, hold on, man hold on, talk to me.
Speaker 1: We die him for a ball. Broun grabbed a ball.
Speaker 1: Look at you, Blue, lay your ass out, You keep
Speaker 1: your cool, you get thrown out? Are you mad if
Speaker 1: they don't take more action on him? And it's y'all
Speaker 1: rivalry and it's you and bron. I don't want no suspense.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing there. I ain't say you want some speech.
Speaker 1: I'm saying you want. Do you feel the type of
Speaker 1: way if you feel like a player deliberately or felt
Speaker 1: like deliberately did something to you, did you well, we
Speaker 1: played in that error. You know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: was common. You know what I'm saying, that's kind of comment.
Speaker 1: I didn't see you do that a thousand.
Speaker 2: Times, fucking up the lions like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't never looked at a nigga and blue.
Speaker 1: He didn't look at it. He just turned bomunk out
Speaker 1: of here. That the world Peace. He turned in no
Speaker 1: way Metal Peace did not know James. He was just
Speaker 1: knew James.
Speaker 3: He got seven games out of there.
Speaker 1: He did not know James doing right that. He just went.
Speaker 1: He went a super raw. You act like Lord, he
Speaker 1: looked at it. You act like Metal wasn't calculated with
Speaker 1: that little I didn't say he wasn't, but he has
Speaker 1: a reputation for that with a nigga. Look at you, lord,
Speaker 1: so he said. Wemby looked at him. Man a p
Speaker 1: knew what he was doing when he threw the board.
Speaker 1: That was an exchange between you, him and I. He smacked,
Speaker 1: so he knew what they got history. They got history.
Speaker 1: They got a little history when you you know how
Speaker 1: the internet grab it Internet and I got nas pushing
Speaker 1: him and artists. I ain't saying that delivered it, none
Speaker 1: of that. I was just I was shocked. But then
Speaker 1: you know what I thought about. I was thought of, well,
Speaker 1: that's that's Wenby. He he the face. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: a reputation, so you kind of you kind of understood.
Speaker 1: But right, that's what I'm saying. Your reputation goes in
Speaker 1: to play at every point of every situation. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Man, Dremond, a Metaware piece, a nigga who
Speaker 1: got a reputation. Are they put a narrative on you
Speaker 1: like this? That's the easiest to be able to give
Speaker 1: you a suspension where it's it's almost like you know,
Speaker 1: public perception can digest this. Oh yeah, Jramond Green he
Speaker 1: always throws bowls like that. Yeah, give them four games? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying, Like you moving a gold post. Now,
Speaker 1: if somebody bow Winby in this series like Lord, like
Speaker 1: he bowed the motherfucker like you hear what I'm saying
Speaker 1: to you. I thought the lee moved a post a
Speaker 1: little bit, but then I get it. It's for the face.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying now,
Speaker 1: if he the bowl, Anthony allwas in the face like that,
Speaker 1: you hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He didn't even know what Flagrant two was. There's like
Speaker 3: a video clip when they the announcers like, hey, flagrant two, Wenby,
Speaker 3: He's beinajected.
Speaker 1: He was conscious of that. He getting tired of getting
Speaker 1: pushed and fucked. Lord he you feel me like he
Speaker 1: when he tapped Harrison, he was like, Yo, what is that?
Speaker 1: I mean? Jack died like cool, like fuck it like
Speaker 1: he at that point he had to stand on it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But yeah, bro getting tired
Speaker 1: of that ship bro broke, getting tired of all the
Speaker 1: grabbing him. And you know, people you go to grab me,
Speaker 1: you know you like six seven six, say you like
Speaker 1: six six and the good You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But you know, you go to grab each other. We
Speaker 1: kind of you know what I'm saying right here? Man,
Speaker 1: if I was seventh Pold man, and you grab me
Speaker 1: like that, you know, you at my waist? You know.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Mitch Winston Woovererine, Maybe I would,
Speaker 1: I would really have leverage on you to you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. So yeah, but that's it's the playoffs.
Speaker 1: He's trying trying to get him out his game. Nah, listen,
Speaker 1: that's part of the game. Yeah, that's one of the
Speaker 1: things I'm going on and mean for this to be
Speaker 1: loan with like this, but I'm saying that scattered reports.
Speaker 1: You always hear about the physical parts. Man, some of
Speaker 1: that physical taps into hey, getting him upset, get into
Speaker 1: an alter. It be motherfuckers out here with that. I
Speaker 1: swear to that. So I'm trying to tell you, Bro,
Speaker 1: the best situation I got is AP. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Ap, Anthony Peelers, this is my dog, Bro,
Speaker 1: were in a real series. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know his family, his son, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know his fair, he know mine. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Man took it boom. Before the game, Randy
Speaker 1: Whitman had already told me, Man, you gotta keep composure
Speaker 1: in this, you know in the scouting port. They got composure. Yo, shit,
Speaker 1: you can't keep your composer. Like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: He snapped me in the head Pete game six two.
Speaker 1: I jumped out. I said, man, what the fucking droves to?
Speaker 1: He said, you see that? I need you. I need
Speaker 1: you to leave that in here. Composure is part of
Speaker 1: our game to everybody want to see you fight. Everybody
Speaker 1: will to see you. But you know what's hard to
Speaker 1: do keeping your fucking composure, especially when you listen, when
Speaker 1: you demand, when you when you the motherfucker's got to
Speaker 1: put the put the ball in the basket. You the
Speaker 1: one gotta be you know, lead. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, composure, bro, And I thought nas Reid kept
Speaker 1: his composure. He wasn't even about it. It was business
Speaker 1: and known to the next. But yeah, you push it
Speaker 1: like that in the back of your head too. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, where's your thoughts on it? I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel when because I'm watching it he getting pushed
Speaker 1: and slapped the face. You know what, I had a circuit.
Speaker 2: I had a situation like that in the playoffs where
Speaker 2: I think I bowled somebody like that got kicked out
Speaker 2: the game. Uh, it was like Tanseley or something, and
Speaker 2: that's what you're talking about. But I think that's just
Speaker 2: young you tired of getting hit. I was, I was
Speaker 2: getting hit all the time, and then I think he
Speaker 2: smacked me in the face.
Speaker 1: Boom.
Speaker 2: Rep Saint calling it. So if the ref saint calling it,
Speaker 2: you like, you take it upon yourself. You're like, God,
Speaker 2: damn what y'all watching out here?
Speaker 3: Give playoffs and.
Speaker 2: Late in the game, late in the game, yep, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: bow dude. I like, dude, this is too much. When
Speaker 2: I was young then.
Speaker 1: Too, So I watched the clip where ron Our tests
Speaker 1: basically beat you up on one play. He beat you up.
Speaker 1: He caught you before you went off the curl. He
Speaker 1: stood you up, and then you tried to throw him.
Speaker 1: He adjusted to the throat. Then he trailed you out,
Speaker 1: he pulled your ship. You look. I watched to play
Speaker 1: with you. It's basically get beat up on the play bro. Composure, Yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: no one talks about composure. Fans want to see you
Speaker 1: get at it. Motherfuckers. Ain't no fake tough. I don't
Speaker 1: know where y'all get this fake tough fat to be
Speaker 1: in the NBA Play ten years, don't miss no games.
Speaker 1: It's it's we're on different levels. When when I'm talking
Speaker 1: like this, you understand like to be in this league, bro,
Speaker 1: you got to have a mental toughness to play through
Speaker 1: whatever you're playing through, not just mainly but physically. It's
Speaker 1: a different level. So for the fans sitting there watching
Speaker 1: what they watching, that's what we're giving them. But it's
Speaker 1: so many different levels of what we're doing out here
Speaker 1: that's over your head. Your perception is one thing, but
Speaker 1: what's what's really what's really going on, is a whole
Speaker 1: nother thing. That's that that that can't nobody really here
Speaker 1: tap into other than the guy that's next to you.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. Playoffs ain't nobody one
Speaker 1: hundred percent everybody what thirty ain't called finger of it's something.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody fresh out here. Feel me composed? Bro, This's
Speaker 1: one thing we never talk about today's game. It's only
Speaker 1: one dude who just not injured in the playoffs. That's
Speaker 1: bron Bro. Listen, you got two sons, that's twenty something
Speaker 1: and they can't beat you. Bro, you gotta stay in
Speaker 1: the league. Listen, when Prince get to an age where
Speaker 1: he dog in your ass. You're gonna have to sit down.
Speaker 1: Don't care what you feel like you hear me when
Speaker 1: your ass fall into the garage and you you know
Speaker 1: your stability and that step back. Eight Lord, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be like damn Prince bad than me. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to sit the fuck down. That's real. Ship.
Speaker 1: If you can't beat your sons, bro, you gotta keep going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be allowed. He better be able to beat
Speaker 1: me Ship and teen in like the next five years.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be eighteen.
Speaker 2: That's that's you know, you're young and strong, eighteen young'ma
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in my fifties now. He ain't gonna
Speaker 2: better be in five years like he'll be at a Nah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be gonna take you.
Speaker 1: Boy, Prince for the dunking boy. Look, I can't even
Speaker 1: if you feel me. Nah, I'm gonna give you that deal. Boy.
Speaker 1: You better get ready, Nah, get ready your stretching. He
Speaker 1: gonna come out to talk. He will never be able
Speaker 1: to be Yeah, Pops, bring your ass so now here.
Speaker 1: Check nigga, he'll be He'll never beg He'll never be
Speaker 1: able to beat me at once. He'll never be able
Speaker 1: to beat me, He'll never be able to put no hands,
Speaker 1: no hands said, no, none of that sad, none of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's want to let this go.
Speaker 3: Let's go back to Wendy.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, Prince gone boy, All right, dog your
Speaker 1: ass a follow in the garage. All that ship, your knee,
Speaker 1: Oh man, go get your mama, all that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's coming, Pete. I love you dog
Speaker 1: because you're holding on to it. He keep holding on
Speaker 1: to it, Pete, hold on to it. Pee hole. I'm
Speaker 1: strong right now. I get you right right now, just
Speaker 1: maintaining what I'm doing right now. More life, I'm good,
Speaker 1: right more tell him pen you good? I see you fresh, nigga.
Speaker 1: Dog your ass, don't I gotta be there? Hey, Chris,
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 3: What going back to Wenby, do you think the Spurs
Speaker 3: kind of need a level of enforce or something? So
Speaker 3: Wendy does and have to be putting that position of
Speaker 3: sticking up for himself like that.
Speaker 1: That's what's next. Okay, They're going to get like what's that?
Speaker 1: What's the boy and the what's the boy in Philly?
Speaker 1: What's what's my man? Play? The five come off the
Speaker 1: bench for they need to go get big bonum. I
Speaker 1: think they got one over there, don't They got beyondbo
Speaker 1: over there, beyond boys over there and over there he
Speaker 1: done though he'd come in and listen, Lord, he over there.
Speaker 1: He over there for that reason. He over there for
Speaker 1: there for that locker room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, he there for the like veteranism, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, making sure everybody is leader, but
Speaker 2: he to be a leader, like it's just it's just
Speaker 2: it's just veteran. He's just getting to practice early, doing
Speaker 2: what he needs to do to be ready. And the
Speaker 2: young dudes just looking at all that, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Even if he don't say much, I bet you he's
Speaker 1: super professional. He and there getting his left on early.
Speaker 1: He's definite files though.
Speaker 2: He should be there for that show the youngins how
Speaker 2: to work and how to you know, every day, how
Speaker 2: every day should look as a pro. Nobody's watching him,
Speaker 2: pe Yeah, you're watching your pants. It don't matter who
Speaker 2: it is. Because when I first came into the league,
Speaker 2: yeah I am. I'm looking at them, looking at their routine.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, get ready.
Speaker 1: I mean you would listen to what you said. You
Speaker 1: listen to it first. If I'm in the first or second,
Speaker 1: listen to Scott Polock. Scott Pollarum cares you was listening
Speaker 1: to Scott Pollock if he been in the league ten
Speaker 1: more years than me. And I'm saying, when need come in,
Speaker 1: we came in the same time. Okay, So you gotta
Speaker 1: listen to Scott Pollock. We're talking about a young We're
Speaker 1: talking about a young and with the old players.
Speaker 3: All right, So you're saying, yes, like an enforcer is
Speaker 3: something that you feel like should be coming up.
Speaker 1: So let me be honest man, in the bag of
Speaker 1: moves of how you set moves up the three ball
Speaker 1: is what usually someone will give you. You understand, I
Speaker 1: can't set the three ball up if I haven't set
Speaker 1: the media up. I can't get to the mini if
Speaker 1: I ain't set up a layup package or some shit
Speaker 1: to show that I can get to the rim. When
Speaker 1: I can get to the rim. Guess what that makes
Speaker 1: him do? He backs up? So, now I got room
Speaker 1: for mid range game, I got I got I got
Speaker 1: arras where I can play make within inside the three, right,
Speaker 1: But you're not gonna get a three when he knows
Speaker 1: I want a three. It's just like you know, fighting,
Speaker 1: you throwing, you keep throwing the you know, motherfucker justs
Speaker 1: in the league. Bro, I watch the three gets so
Speaker 1: exhausted that it's expected. I can expect it. And if
Speaker 1: you go mini to two trip like bro, A good
Speaker 1: defender can catch patterns on you. Man. I know you
Speaker 1: don't think you got pad man. You got a dribble pattern.
Speaker 1: You got a certain comfortability that when you when you
Speaker 1: get when you get, you know, really somebody really getting
Speaker 1: your shit, your turn your back. You gotta eskape. You
Speaker 1: got all these packages that you don't even know that
Speaker 1: you do. Someone says there that really wants to shut
Speaker 1: you down, like watch shay them and damn you see
Speaker 1: how he was guarding Murray Man. He was not only
Speaker 1: getting on the pick, he was poking at the ball.
Speaker 1: He kind of knew his movement. Bro. You get something
Speaker 1: like that, Bro, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta. He
Speaker 1: couldn't give a guy like a Metal World piece the
Speaker 1: same thing our Herrington the same thing I gotta. That's
Speaker 1: what Pump fakes us for. That's what jabs are for.
Speaker 1: That's what you know what I'm saying like, I'm just
Speaker 1: seeing the league just just exhausted, just exhaust so one
Speaker 1: two step back going left. I'm watching that be exhausted
Speaker 1: with nothing else to set it up. That should be
Speaker 1: the counter, you know, the main move should be the move.
Speaker 1: The counter should be the two. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So as I'm watching this, I'm like, man, bro, the
Speaker 1: league ain't set up no miny. That's why that's why
Speaker 1: Shade gets what he gets. Man, he gets that here
Speaker 1: yank you your fall look like you crazy. By then
Speaker 1: next time you think he's doing that, boom he took
Speaker 1: three and now he got it to where he didn't
Speaker 1: even take no driver here jab he right from the three. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't think I can make that back here, Trout.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm just watching the
Speaker 1: moves pattern not set anything up for no counters or
Speaker 1: not be able to go to anything else other than it.
Speaker 1: But it's very predicted, is what I'm getting at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you seeing the same thing, Yeah, I mean, I like.
Speaker 2: I mean that's why when you look at the best scores,
Speaker 2: they guys like Shay who you know, who get to
Speaker 2: his medy, who get to the rim and then if
Speaker 2: the three there, you know what I'm saying, you take it.
Speaker 2: Saying with k Cunningham is like that too. They got
Speaker 2: a lot of similarities to their game, but they get
Speaker 2: to their spots. They yeah, yeah, and saying with Jaylen Brunston,
Speaker 2: he on that. He on that level too. And these
Speaker 2: is all the top scoring guards and they have a
Speaker 2: mir range. They got that mill range, that in between,
Speaker 2: that layup, that layup package and that, and then they
Speaker 2: used the three when it's headed off.
Speaker 1: They don't go straight to the three. They don't know
Speaker 1: like I watched I watched Ae sometimes and when he
Speaker 1: flowing lower, he take the shot that's there. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, he's seeking out that tree, seeking out
Speaker 1: that three. You can tell it's predictable. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know what, No, I'm not going for no of yours.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go. I'm gonna let you go
Speaker 1: to the rim. And then you don't want to go
Speaker 1: to the rim, and then you circle out like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, he I don't want
Speaker 1: to go to the rim. Take the two, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm just play the three then and then if he
Speaker 1: don't want no twos. So I feel like if Paul
Speaker 1: Pierce is going to go left and get a left
Speaker 1: hand layup, he gotta go right at some point. You
Speaker 1: got the ball ten times, you can't go ten first five?
Speaker 1: This like, nah, Bro, it's an art to that, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like, Lord, I hate to put it like this,
Speaker 1: but it's just like when you see a girl and y'all, boom, y'all,
Speaker 1: finna hit the dance fo and you almost like somebody
Speaker 1: you want to then boom, y'all, y'all, y'all in the
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that look patter it, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's a real thing. That is a
Speaker 1: real thing. Scores. You can ask him. Me see him
Speaker 1: right here. They know how to set people up with
Speaker 1: pump fakes, jabs, and all you're doing is trying to
Speaker 1: keep a motherfucker off and whatever he give you within
Speaker 1: your packet, that's what you take. Oh man, he just stumbling.
Speaker 1: I got the two jib but let me take this
Speaker 1: boom next time. Oh. I like he went for the
Speaker 1: pump and all that is is set up right. All
Speaker 1: that has to be something like a dance, something that
Speaker 1: you feel something that you're in tune with the defender.
Speaker 2: Got more as a score. He gotta get to the
Speaker 2: defender's body. Got to take tools, bro, But you gotta
Speaker 2: take the tooth. They give me you a driving like,
Speaker 2: you take it, You take it, You take it all
Speaker 2: five time? Dad, guess what six time?
Speaker 1: He'd adjust? Man, You keep taking the lay up right
Speaker 1: when he take the lay up. That's when you come
Speaker 1: back to the threes. You know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 1: you gotta have a answer for each level you go to.
Speaker 1: You gotta have an answer for that three, answer at
Speaker 1: that mini, and an answer at the rim. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But he has the speed, the strength,
Speaker 1: and the ball handle to physically wear down his opponent.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by like like this is what
Speaker 1: I used to do on I look at up the
Speaker 1: scores today. It's the same thing. You gotta get to
Speaker 1: your defender's body. You gotta you gotta put.
Speaker 2: Your head, your shoulder in his chest all goddamn game long.
Speaker 2: Think about what Shaye doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Every time? You're gonna put a shoulder in your chair
Speaker 1: every time. I'm not gonna this ain't no dancing, No
Speaker 1: I'm coming right at you. Boom you cut that off
Speaker 1: on spinning, but boom again. Leaning to you, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Think about the Jaylen brust A
Speaker 1: gonna do that. He always feeling his man bowl, constantly
Speaker 1: getting his shoulder in the chest.
Speaker 2: Yes, can't come of constantly shoulder in your chest. You
Speaker 2: gotta put offensively you. It can't just be dancing.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going straight to your body, defend feel you.
Speaker 2: He gotta fucking feel you bowl and that's that wears
Speaker 2: you down. That kid ooh ooh, I know motherfuckers hate
Speaker 2: guard him. Johnson from uh San Antonio.
Speaker 1: Boy, he put his He done your work.
Speaker 2: You gonna put his body into your chest and you're
Speaker 2: gonna it's demoralized doing he.
Speaker 1: Like seven driveles man, And it's two. It's it's that,
Speaker 1: It's that one. It's that. It's that to the chests.
Speaker 1: That unit runs, he giving out g union runs. He
Speaker 1: in your chest. He going through what I'm saying, all
Speaker 1: the good scores, that's what they do.
Speaker 2: Think about what I'm sayying on pressure because now you're like, damn,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this he gonna pull up my family,
Speaker 2: but I'm putting him in danger and then you're doing
Speaker 2: it all gain.
Speaker 1: The riff gonna call something, but think about it. If not,
Speaker 1: if he's backing off in foul trouble, boom, I'm all
Speaker 1: this all day. That's when you start seeing Preston this
Speaker 1: is all day because I didn't set him up with
Speaker 1: this other boom boom boom. Now I'm getting to this.
Speaker 1: Oh this is open right here in the middle. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When you do you got to
Speaker 1: do that, and you know what that is. That's when
Speaker 1: you control the defense. Yeah, you're doing defense like no,
Speaker 1: I don't care who your defend is. Yeah, he's gonna eat.
Speaker 1: That's almost like shot not that's like shot taking jump
Speaker 1: hooks where he could just take the one dribble be
Speaker 1: in the rim.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I gotta see what type
Speaker 2: of presence you're giving me defense. So when I do this,
Speaker 2: if you ain't showing no resistance, this is gonna be
Speaker 2: a long knife for you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you take an account your bag and moves depending
Speaker 1: on the guy's reputation. Oh yeah, you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: with some guys. Yeah, absolutely, I'm saying Vince Carter who's
Speaker 1: known as a as a score. And then next night
Speaker 1: and you in Indiana and you got ship at stack
Speaker 1: five and you got Al Harrington, then you got you know,
Speaker 1: a metal world piece. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Y'all got back to back, So you know, Vince, y'all
Speaker 1: gonna be probably in the offensive battle. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: when you know what it is, right, Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: that cool shit off. You take the king, go off,
Speaker 1: you put the hard hat on, right, put the best
Speaker 1: load up. You already know what time of It's the
Speaker 1: same thing with both of them, really yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: because medical score too. Yeah that's another thing. But you
Speaker 1: know what he was on though, Yeah, for sure it'll
Speaker 1: be a different type of style. See what meta was
Speaker 1: a lot different than everybody in the league.
Speaker 2: For me because most players at my position at the two,
Speaker 2: at the three, I was stronger than all of them
Speaker 2: pretty much boom post work all day with him. You know,
Speaker 2: you gotta take him on a little perimeter and you
Speaker 2: can't be out here dancing with him. You just you
Speaker 2: just gotta go right at him.
Speaker 1: Pull up, go to the whole shoulder in his chest,
Speaker 1: want to dribble, pull ups, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that post of that night is gonna be you know here,
Speaker 1: I mess with him because he's strong as a lot
Speaker 1: of it. You know what I'm saying. You have to
Speaker 1: get some respect for him. Oh yeah, we always respected.
Speaker 1: We went at it all the time. When when was
Speaker 1: the moment when you're like, man, let me hold on, man,
Speaker 1: let me get some respect from this. Because every time
Speaker 1: I've seen yr player was always on that level. It
Speaker 1: looked like it.
Speaker 2: But like when me and him, I'll see him after
Speaker 2: the game, I got that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: the floor on the floor.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Matter, man, he was gonna be like that with everybody,
Speaker 2: and I know that, And I'm like, you know, so
Speaker 2: I had to throw a couple of balls back at him.
Speaker 2: You know, we always was tangled up. We always was
Speaker 2: tangled up. This go back from day one in Indiana.
Speaker 1: All the defenders you do that too, Q Meta out
Speaker 1: we just be in to me. I'm just saying, these
Speaker 1: all the guys and I seen you get tangled.
Speaker 2: Up with because I bring such a physical presence on
Speaker 2: offense and they bring a physical presence on defense. When
Speaker 2: that clash, you know, that's a clash with them now
Speaker 2: they like hold on. They used to throwing out blows,
Speaker 2: but when they get somebody else that's booming boom and
Speaker 2: doing the same thing, it's a clash and controlling guy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So that's like always been a like hold on now
Speaker 2: like hold on and they doing the same thing though
Speaker 2: they like what hold.
Speaker 1: On, I'm pete now and shoot, I'm pee hold on
Speaker 1: now just sink.
Speaker 2: So that's a clash with them, and that's why then
Speaker 2: we always had like a little like like a little
Speaker 2: friction here and there, but it's always been love.
Speaker 1: We'll show with the Lakers, Nate, see, I want to.
Speaker 3: Go back to just Spurs Wolves really quick. Game six
Speaker 3: is Friday, Spurs are up three to two. Do the
Speaker 3: Spurs close out Friday?
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Me personally, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think the Wolves understand the moment and then plays well,
Speaker 1: and the Wolves plays well in pressure situations like this,
Speaker 1: So I'm looking I'm looking for them to actually take
Speaker 1: this to a game seven. I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: just think I'm not sure. I've watched the games and
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what offensively that the Wolves can hang.
Speaker 1: They hat on you know what I'm saying. Ant Man
Speaker 1: has to work way too hard to score, and then
Speaker 1: random ain't really found no shooting rhythm, you know. Times
Speaker 1: when I see him going one on one with Wimby,
Speaker 1: that's like a recipe for disaster. So he got to
Speaker 1: find a way to take advantage of the guys who
Speaker 1: are smaller than him, get it into where you can
Speaker 1: bring Winby out, because it's a struggle in the paint
Speaker 1: for Rando right now. So I'm just trying to put
Speaker 1: a finger on, like what can they really do offensively?
Speaker 1: Whereas San Antonio vote him out two times and Wolves
Speaker 1: won the one game where Winby got ejected, So I'm
Speaker 1: just like, damn, we can easily point to that game,
Speaker 1: but it was no Winby effect in that game.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, woo doo the Wolves adjustment. Now, listen,
Speaker 2: they do have one thing I believe they can do
Speaker 2: for me. I think you gotta sit go there. I
Speaker 2: don't think he.
Speaker 1: Can play the rest of the series because, for one,
Speaker 1: he's not stopping Winby, he's not blocking shots, he's not
Speaker 1: rebounding at a high level, and he's not scoring.
Speaker 2: So and then while he's in there, Winby sits in
Speaker 2: the paint. So now all the drives Winby is sagged,
Speaker 2: you know, on the pigs in there. So now if
Speaker 2: I can get like reading and start life line up
Speaker 2: to where Womby cannot be in the paint and stretch
Speaker 2: the defense a little bit more, that's the adjustment I
Speaker 2: would make. That's the only thing I could see the
Speaker 2: Wolves doing, because offensively it's bogged down because Weinby sits
Speaker 2: there and he's just out there target practice on them
Speaker 2: blocks just or if he's not blocking it, you you
Speaker 2: you just you're just throwing up something and it's not
Speaker 2: even It's like, man, he's just sitting in the paint.
Speaker 1: So that's that just I say, Rudy got to sit
Speaker 1: the rest of the series until we figure how we
Speaker 1: can get more drives to the basket without Winny standing there.
Speaker 1: So you think bringing in to start for go Beart, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to go Bear and Cornet. You think Gobert dominates that
Speaker 1: that off the bench matchup because Cornett, because.
Speaker 2: That's a better match up with Cornett, now exact Cornet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he should be matching with Cornett come in and that's
Speaker 2: when he comes in.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that nas read when because women scoring anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's scoring, but he's not gonna be getting those wide
Speaker 1: open threes because it's a little more agile to b
Speaker 1: And then you know, Wenby's not gonna post them up.
Speaker 1: Gona not a lot one or two. But dude, you know,
Speaker 1: don't push him out of the post. But he can
Speaker 1: get out to the pop rolling though. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: See what red, you can switch that picking roll now
Speaker 1: if women popping to the three, bro, he throwing that
Speaker 1: bitch up. Can't nobody stop that ship? You remember when
Speaker 1: Luca was doing that ship with the kid from a duke. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but the switch is gonna be with they getting threes
Speaker 1: on off that ship. Bro. They bringing in those corners
Speaker 1: and off the lob. You gotta come in and they're
Speaker 1: kicking it to Champagne and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and for sale. They they're not switching the lot. You
Speaker 1: gotta switch with something. The wolves can beat them, bro,
Speaker 1: the wolves can beat them though. They got listen, Julius
Speaker 1: Randall gotta be right. He gotta be in there in
Speaker 1: that mold where he just going and they stopping him.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think he just didn't like he in a
Speaker 1: gray area where he's thinking. You can see him thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, if they don't make that adjustment, then
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be really tough. And
Speaker 1: then I think, if I'm just the league, Okay, see
Speaker 1: sitting getting rest, New York sitting getting rest. You know
Speaker 1: how this gold Pete you know you if who is
Speaker 1: that Detroit going home? And then you got many. Man,
Speaker 1: if you said, Antonio, you gotta close this out. If
Speaker 1: you're trying, if you're trying to, you do you know what?
Speaker 1: You don't want to be in a game seven with
Speaker 1: these not many?
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Mini has shown we could come in your place and
Speaker 1: beat you. We can come into a big game like
Speaker 1: they went in Denver. You hear me, Bro, If a
Speaker 1: team can do it, Bro, it's Minnesota. Bro, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't want to fuck around with this
Speaker 1: type of animal, man, because I usually I showed you
Speaker 1: he can hear it. Man, I'm trying to tell you, man,
Speaker 1: Minnesota got like four five options that Yeah, it is
Speaker 1: high volumein he shoe, but man, wings Man, we get
Speaker 1: to see it's about It's about time we see a
Speaker 1: jade mcdamn sighting, you know, with his joke. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, trying to keep his level and what
Speaker 1: he doing at that's really hard. So he's due for
Speaker 1: a really good game. He he shows up in big games,
Speaker 1: nas Reed shows up. You know what I'm saying, bones
Speaker 1: and Aye, you man, they got it, they got they
Speaker 1: got some pieces. Boy junior kid playing well.
Speaker 2: In order to win in this league, in order to
Speaker 2: win a championship, there's gonna be nights where you need
Speaker 2: a guy that you would expect to get you twenty five,
Speaker 2: get you twenty five on a game you don't expect
Speaker 2: Bonner who got Bonner nigga? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like like like the kid from Who Got and Bonner?
Speaker 2: Who was ship Nigga killing us?
Speaker 1: Let's get to these Hey, hey man, I gotta Nate.
Speaker 1: I know you go ahead. I'm probably fucking up your production. Sorry, Nate,
Speaker 1: what you're doing? If you're brown man, you gotta swept
Speaker 1: by Okay. See, yeah, I thought he had a a
Speaker 1: really good year. I mean think about over forty lord, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think people really understand this. Ain't this ain't
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers type shit. This This motherfucker's still in the
Speaker 1: twenties averaging, and he took a you know, lesser role.
Speaker 1: And what's next for brother? What do you think is next? Man?
Speaker 1: When I start thinking about it, I look at all
Speaker 1: the goats, you know what I'm saying. And bron Is
Speaker 1: is in these conversation, like when I think of Jordan,
Speaker 1: when Jordan came to the Wizards, he never took a
Speaker 1: secondary role, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The only one that really took a secondary role but
Speaker 2: kind of still was first role was Kareem with magic.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Kobe never took a secondary role.
Speaker 1: Bird never.
Speaker 2: Like it's like for Lebron to come back, that's we're
Speaker 2: asking him to be the third best player, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying for a guy at that level, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, that's.
Speaker 1: Unfamiliar territory for him. So like mentally, I'm like, you know, like,
Speaker 1: come on, like I'm Bron and I like fucked up. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: got me fucked up? And you know what's he been
Speaker 1: more fucked up? Yeah? That was man? Yeah. J's interaction
Speaker 1: before all the hamp the darwen Ham and all that shit. Man,
Speaker 1: them niggas is on the same page. They had great combos.
Speaker 1: They started a podcast. You know, I listened to some
Speaker 1: of that shit to sound cool. Then I watched the
Speaker 1: relationship like, oh, that shit deteriorated right in front of
Speaker 1: our face. Like, I don't know what. I think he's
Speaker 1: over this. Oh no, he looked like he was. He
Speaker 1: looked he looked weathered, brood, he looked like he's over
Speaker 1: the la the la.
Speaker 2: It's just getting disrespectful at this point, like if I'm
Speaker 2: if I'm Lebron retire, like like, you know, he ain't
Speaker 2: got a deal, He don't have to accomplish nothing else.
Speaker 2: He don't have to prove nothing else too, bro. But
Speaker 2: but I know, but like if he love it, okay,
Speaker 2: I get it, and he's willing to like say, all right,
Speaker 2: I'll be the third or fourth best player on the team,
Speaker 2: and you can still play.
Speaker 1: Pay you can still play, and you can still play.
Speaker 1: You still have twenty What you have twenty five? No?
Speaker 1: You have like twenty No, no you have more than twenty.
Speaker 1: What do you have?
Speaker 3: Twenty one?
Speaker 1: Thank you stop payting on here, bro, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: That's the same thing. No, it's not Nigga age twenty
Speaker 1: and Nigga's twenty one.
Speaker 3: That's technically twenty point nine, But the fuck all.
Speaker 1: That's te Oh that's twenty that's like two old points,
Speaker 1: say average twenty one at forty nine. I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm may busting as a third option.
Speaker 2: But does he want to do that for the Lakers?
Speaker 2: Does he want to do that for another team?
Speaker 1: Be the third option?
Speaker 2: This is Lebron James were talking about, so like like
Speaker 2: just walking in there, I know it's like, nah, he
Speaker 2: ain't feeling no third option unless.
Speaker 1: He just want to play ball. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: come on, okay, let's say you tired. What's gonna pay
Speaker 1: you no? Nine figures to come in here and talk basketball? Oh?
Speaker 3: You see the Brady deal?
Speaker 1: I mean you think get a Brady deal? That's Brady.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ever gonna get that deal? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Shit, we're gonna get a Brady deal. I
Speaker 1: don't know I got seven ship they put. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you see that whole thing? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I want to bring something up. There was an article
Speaker 3: that came out this morning from ESPN dot com where
Speaker 3: they talked to Lebron. Dave mcmadhaman did, and he said
Speaker 3: he had a great relationship with JJ Redick, but he
Speaker 3: said he felt taken for granted when Rob Polinka gave
Speaker 3: Reddick the game ball after James broke the NBA wins record.
Speaker 3: So there was a game where JJ Redick got his
Speaker 3: one hundredth career win and Lebron also got all time
Speaker 3: wins and they gave the ball to Reddick instead of.
Speaker 1: Lebron, like, feature mean, all the time he got the
Speaker 1: most wins in all time. Yeah, like just oh okay,
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 3: Wins record in the NBA Lebron got. It was the
Speaker 3: same game JJ Reddick got a hundred wins and Polenka
Speaker 3: gave the ball to JJ Reddick instead. And I guess
Speaker 3: that in this article it says that Lebron did not
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lebron should have said, hey, no, run that ball,
Speaker 2: Like if I felt that way at the time, I've
Speaker 2: been like, Doc, let me get that.
Speaker 1: Lebron is bigger than Rob Polenka. I'm sorry, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean he should say something though, right he's broun
Speaker 1: as men. It shouldn't be like a feelings.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be like a feelings and then tell somebody
Speaker 2: else if I see that, and I notice that right
Speaker 2: there in the locker room in real time, let me
Speaker 2: get that dog like run now. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I don't believe and you have to come back months
Speaker 2: later and then like, but.
Speaker 3: Do you think this being put out in the media
Speaker 3: is kind of some breadcrumbs of any sort that you
Speaker 3: would think.
Speaker 1: I think it's a setup. I think I think ahead bad.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that should be like the issue,
Speaker 1: Like I think that's like reaching sound calculating, like he's
Speaker 1: getting ready to set up. It's like the Jaylen Brown shit.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Jaylen Brown goes on this joint.
Speaker 1: People don't like what he said, right, you feel some
Speaker 1: type of way about now he's the villain now any
Speaker 1: time I'll trade him for Giannis And like, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, now he's a bad guy. And I think
Speaker 1: I think Ron is bigger than Rob Policker, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Obviously Rob is GM and he can
Speaker 1: play it all the ship. But to the game, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: get out the way man, this ain't But you see
Speaker 1: the movie, right, And I think if he really felt
Speaker 1: some type of way right then and there, he could
Speaker 1: have actually did something about it, if you know, versus
Speaker 1: letting us you know what I mean, hand those doors.
Speaker 1: You have the ability to say, you have the ability
Speaker 1: to do if you really feel some type of way.
Speaker 1: You have the relationships to where you can get everybody
Speaker 1: in the room and you know what I'm saying, so
Speaker 1: way to do everything. But in that situation, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: like Pete Man, you stand on that and say something,
Speaker 1: or you swing that big dog, Let me get that,
Speaker 1: get JJ another ball, let me get this one bigger
Speaker 1: than everybody in there. I think Lebron should retire, and
Speaker 1: you think he should be Tyler, Yeah, I think he should.
Speaker 2: Man, just like for the simple fact that at the
Speaker 2: age that he still receives the criticism that he still does.
Speaker 2: I no, no, not the greats wasn't getting this criticism,
Speaker 2: Like nobody was criticizing Kobe when he wasn't going to
Speaker 2: the playoffs in this last year. They were just enjoying
Speaker 2: his moments, Like the same with Jordan Washington. They were
Speaker 2: talking about can he win without shot?
Speaker 1: No? No, you talking about in his last year, in
Speaker 1: his last two years when they were he was coming
Speaker 1: off something. Yeah, he was he didn't play, he wasn't
Speaker 1: in an.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying nobody was attacking him or criticizing
Speaker 2: them when they wasn't going to the playoffs, saying with
Speaker 2: Jordan when he went to Washington, was just enjoying them
Speaker 2: to continue to still play for the simple fact that man,
Speaker 2: it's forty one and we still critiquing him like he
Speaker 2: twenty five and should be winning envy or winning championships.
Speaker 1: Still saying that. It's just that's what. That's what. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody saying that shit? Yeah he gets here like saying that, yeah,
Speaker 1: there is. They just just the criticism he gets still, man,
Speaker 1: you still get criticism. Man. Listen, there's two other players
Speaker 1: on his team that they consider to be more productive.
Speaker 1: That's Ron. That's fucking with bro. Yeah, Okay, you're forty
Speaker 1: plus and you feel some type of way because your
Speaker 1: forty plus and still have the ability to so you
Speaker 1: feel not entitled, but a certain way. Yeah, Okay, reality
Speaker 1: is that these two niggas are a little more bad
Speaker 1: than you, So get over yourself. This is business, bro,
Speaker 1: This ain't about something. I didn't get a ball, man,
Speaker 1: It got a thousand balls back there. It's how he
Speaker 1: did it in the Lord Lloyd used to getting whatever
Speaker 1: he won't, Bro, you hear what I'm saying, So this
Speaker 1: is all leveraging to me, Bro, this sounds like super leveraging.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm gonna create some bargaining chips here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember when you know what I'm saying, it's dat
Speaker 1: Patty and then you put that in it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You see that movie Pee, you see
Speaker 1: that leveraging chip where it's going, or at least what
Speaker 1: it looks like. Yeah, it was time for me to move,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, now all this shit coming out,
Speaker 1: what's they got to do with putting the ball in
Speaker 1: the bucket? What's they got to do with making us better?
Speaker 1: Once they got to do with you know, the person
Speaker 1: there that we need to be to be in the West,
Speaker 1: to make us to you know what I'm saying, how
Speaker 1: were we gonna Luca back? Well? How can we be better?
Speaker 1: Like all this other shit that ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with basketball is you know what I'm saying, it's
Speaker 1: affecting the main thing. I think if he continues to play,
Speaker 1: it's gonna taking further away from the goat talk because
Speaker 1: like if you keep doing seasons, even though you have
Speaker 1: you have lunge avity, you still aving the twenty. You're
Speaker 1: still an all star caliber if you keep the go talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like he's fueling itself away from being in
Speaker 2: the gold talks. If he continues to play and like
Speaker 2: we're saying, oh played this long, nigga, this up.
Speaker 1: Listen, he got swept, so that's gonna go on the resume.
Speaker 1: Jordan Ku never did this at forty nigga fuck as
Speaker 1: you talk about no nigga. Kareem came back and we
Speaker 1: had to do had to do a bunch of Kung
Speaker 1: Fu Kenny shit to come back and have Lord, Like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Man? This man finna kill
Speaker 1: every record that's a live It's finna say Lebron all
Speaker 1: the way down. That's what he's doing. And he got
Speaker 1: his sons, may be about to have his whole family
Speaker 1: and his man. If it's Dornicle, who she damn it
Speaker 1: would make you feel what I'm saying, Bro, you see
Speaker 1: what's going on. This is a takeover, bro. This is
Speaker 1: like a revanitsed where you ain't gonna remember damn near nothing.
Speaker 1: This is a takeover, bro, we're going to two thirties
Speaker 1: that she gonna say, Oh, bron, you hear what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to you? Forty forty P forty the motherfucker over
Speaker 1: forty P catch a live dunking on niggas hollering at
Speaker 1: nigga's row. Broke, Come on, bro forty one broke, bro Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get me. You hear what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 1: I'm being honest here that motherfucking what you seeing y'all? No,
Speaker 1: forty old nigga, I've never seen look like this in life.
Speaker 1: And if so, bring him up his name kung Fu
Speaker 1: Kenny and he don't exist. You understand who say it
Speaker 1: to you? But this is the thing. Hold on that.
Speaker 2: Listen because he's still because he still looks like this
Speaker 2: at this age, even at the age of forty one,
Speaker 2: we expect him to win.
Speaker 1: We expect him to win a championship even at this age.
Speaker 1: Because he is so great at this age, we still
Speaker 1: put the expectation like, oh, he should be in contention.
Speaker 1: Then still, if you're thinking that you don't know ball,
Speaker 1: you don't understand how are you watching OKC are you
Speaker 1: watching the bus?
Speaker 2: So they put real niggas or the Lakers seed in
Speaker 2: the West. There's people having beliefs that since Lebron is
Speaker 2: performing at such a high level, they supposed to win
Speaker 2: a championshow they.
Speaker 1: Don't know ball. They're just Lebron lovers and want to
Speaker 1: see Bron on the court. When you start tapping it
Speaker 1: into how you gotta win the championship, you gotta have Luca,
Speaker 1: you gotta have a ar, you gotta have a big
Speaker 1: that's DC, and you gotta have a guy like Lebron
Speaker 1: that can get you influence and whistle, and then you
Speaker 1: gotta have a great cash. You're going up against fucking
Speaker 1: uh OKC, the ringing m VP, that's going crazy. If
Speaker 1: Luca was healthy, you think they can get okay? See
Speaker 1: hell o, no, do you are you watching the buzz saw?
Speaker 1: You ain't watching the bus saw? Man. Listen, bro, these
Speaker 1: boys are South. You ever see piranhas in the bottom
Speaker 1: of a team? You had a fish tank before? No, right,
Speaker 1: I had a fish tank before, about about two houses big.
Speaker 1: At the bottom of it. It was a whole piranha teape.
Speaker 1: That's what the okay See, they're just sitting there current
Speaker 1: they win't for the Spurs joined to hit this water bro. Bro. Listen, Bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: they are they are in Mold. Bro. You remember how
Speaker 1: we hear We was like, yeah we get the Detroit
Speaker 1: we about Bro, they are in Mold And that's what
Speaker 1: you gotta have. The bron lovers that want to see
Speaker 1: him out here and see him kill the longevity, that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They want to see him winning that
Speaker 1: championship because of the s longevity, but him playing and
Speaker 1: him being out here and dominating young guys and still
Speaker 1: still getting it off. Pat, I ain't no great, never
Speaker 1: did no ship like this. No, that's not He is
Speaker 1: killing all the goats. You know, goat played past forty
Speaker 1: and look like this. Yeah, ever.
Speaker 2: Gives it, just gives the critic more, ammo. You know,
Speaker 2: critic is just pulling shit out of his ass and herd.
Speaker 2: This is how people create the narratives. But like so
Speaker 2: I said, the longer he played, he pulls himself out
Speaker 2: of the gold conversation. If he continues to get swept,
Speaker 2: because they always gonna put that on there. They're gonna
Speaker 2: add that to like, oh he got swept four times,
Speaker 2: because I spend the narrative of all week since they lost,
Speaker 2: Oh this is the fourth time in his career, he
Speaker 2: got swept, like why are we talking about that? And
Speaker 2: then so it's adding and it's pulling him a little
Speaker 2: bit further away if he continues to play and on
Speaker 2: these teams that have no opportunity to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I disagree with you or that. I think the
Speaker 1: longer he plays, I think he starts to step on
Speaker 1: every record, every goat that played before already done already.
Speaker 1: Though it ain't he got all the rants already because
Speaker 1: he had to play, because he has to get up,
Speaker 1: lace him up, come out there, perform. Ain't. No nigga
Speaker 1: did this like he's starting to tap into another goat's
Speaker 1: of his own. You know what I'm saying, If Jordan
Speaker 1: going to d C tarnish his legacy, I don't think
Speaker 1: that tarnish is letter. A lot of people don't even
Speaker 1: remember it. I think it was just more like for
Speaker 1: the people that remember Jordan going to d C, do
Speaker 1: you think that it tarnished anything with those with those fants.
Speaker 1: I don't think it tarnished anything because it was like
Speaker 1: the second retirement that's come back to a team. So
Speaker 1: all this was well. So the Jeorde to Washington was
Speaker 1: more like a.
Speaker 2: Just like a tour for him, like like just like tour,
Speaker 2: like a farewell tour, Like we just got a chance
Speaker 2: to see Jordan because he unexpectedly retired at his peak.
Speaker 2: He just came up a third championship and we dietning
Speaker 2: just we didn't really get a chance to honor that,
Speaker 2: you know that this was his last year. It just
Speaker 2: was like, well, he done. So him coming back was
Speaker 2: like more of a farewell tour for him for those
Speaker 2: years in Washington. So just like every think about it,
Speaker 2: Washington was weak, but every game he played in was
Speaker 2: sold out. Every game he played in, it was a
Speaker 2: different arena. Here, take this gift, Jordan, like you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So that was like his farewell too.
Speaker 2: He didn't get while he was with the Bulls. So
Speaker 2: when Mike came back, I think everybody was. First off,
Speaker 2: the league had a bunch of new faces. The league
Speaker 2: had a bunch of new stars that were coming into
Speaker 2: their own you know what I'm saying. And obviously he had,
Speaker 2: like he said, at the top of your at the
Speaker 2: top of your top you you you quit like you
Speaker 2: just stopped.
Speaker 1: He just stopped, you know. So that shocked all of us.
Speaker 1: And then you got like a bunch of young twos
Speaker 1: and threes. That's n OL league that are really fucking good.
Speaker 1: And when Michael Jordan coming back talking competitive, Hey, I
Speaker 1: want to play against the Vince Carters, the Kobe Bryants
Speaker 1: to Paul Pierce and trasing me, he man, these are
Speaker 1: the next ins that's going to the So we're like,
Speaker 1: oh shit. So I think it was a It was
Speaker 1: a parody there of an old school and a young
Speaker 1: school wanting to see, man, let me see I might
Speaker 1: look against uh you know, hey, y'all, what do he
Speaker 1: look like against that? You know what I'm saying. And that,
Speaker 1: and when he came back, held his own, gave a
Speaker 1: couple forties, played eighty two, showed up, it became a
Speaker 1: It became like a farewell tour, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it tarnished anything. I think the
Speaker 1: way he went out and the way him and he
Speaker 1: and the owner Abe went out, I think put like
Speaker 1: an astrost on how he actually exited the league, you know.
Speaker 1: But I also think that he was setting up things himself,
Speaker 1: leveraging wise to go over and leverage you know, Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: to leverage you know, the Charlotte situation. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he was trying to find a place to be
Speaker 1: an owner and understand that whole thing. So I think
Speaker 1: that was the first part of that. You know, Mike
Speaker 1: Jordan going to to d C was a leveraging point,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and it worked out for him.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it tarnished anything. Just a quick
Speaker 1: reminder at age thirty nine in his last year, he
Speaker 1: plays all eighty two games, scores twenty points a game.
Speaker 1: He was catching the ball with the buck shot. Like
Speaker 1: I think the disrespect to Mike and know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying brought I think we don't understand. Oh that was
Speaker 1: he was thirty nine, he blocked he caught Ron Murky.
Speaker 1: He's been playing to his forties.
Speaker 3: No, No, but he played eighty two games that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty nine, which was really hard in a very
Speaker 1: physical league, you know what I'm saying. Like it was
Speaker 1: more of can he do it? And then he came
Speaker 1: out and did it and played eighty two games. Bro
Speaker 1: Come on, man, he don't what year was that? Three?
Speaker 1: So he had already been retired five years.
Speaker 3: No, four season. Prior to that, he had two seasons
Speaker 3: in Washington.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, two seasons, three years one and he was
Speaker 1: still cooking. He was still higher. That's wow. He was older,
Speaker 1: but he was still created to retirements fade at two
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 3: So okay, s he's eight known the post season and
Speaker 3: A J. Mitchell his nineteen five I.
Speaker 1: Called that ship? Did I not call that ship? Yes?
Speaker 1: I caught that ship. I called it. I told y'all
Speaker 1: on draftman, queue it up. Remember we went to trade
Speaker 1: boom hit hit video right there, but.
Speaker 3: A sneaky trade. I'm curious what you guys think is
Speaker 3: Jared McCain went to the sty Thunder.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that was the that was the
Speaker 1: steal of the of the trade.
Speaker 3: So he last year he was the leting rookie of
Speaker 3: the year's averaging like sixteen a game. He hurts his knee,
Speaker 3: he sits out. He comes back this season. I think
Speaker 3: Edgecombe and you know Maxi, their emergence kind of took
Speaker 3: away some of his minutes. So now he gets a
Speaker 3: fresh opportunity.
Speaker 1: It took that style away to Nate. You know when
Speaker 1: when they when edge Combe and they weren't there and
Speaker 1: it was just him and Maxie. He had kind of
Speaker 1: the eds comb position to just you know, green light free,
Speaker 1: make things happen around, playmate hit threes. He was all
Speaker 1: over the place. He's making play great hands scrappy. Listen.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? What's the kid that's in okay? See?
Speaker 1: Is his name Williams? Is it ton of Williams? What's
Speaker 1: the little twenty number twenty five for? Okay? See the
Speaker 1: kid that was hurt last year coming in here just
Speaker 1: getting money.
Speaker 3: This is j Mitchell who you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Got some game I'm talking about. He was hurt last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: him and McCain in a bat. Listen, bro, yeah, I listen, Okay,
Speaker 1: see he got better. Quietly, quietly, bro, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: he came out of nowhere. I did not see that coming.
Speaker 1: Him and McCain. That's a great backcourt. And then Shave's
Speaker 1: out right now with abdomino. Bro, Listen. That's when you
Speaker 1: get to develop that, that's when you get to play
Speaker 1: with all that you feel me on real shit, I
Speaker 1: called this pe. You know what Io and Bones are
Speaker 1: doing up there in Minnesota? Or what's my boy name?
Speaker 1: Kean from Sack and him and shrumper and shoulder. Are
Speaker 1: you seeing this little two guard passed. It's like a
Speaker 1: little twin turbo pack. Bro, it's the new D I'm.
Speaker 3: Telling you, and you're saying that with Mitchell, McCain.
Speaker 1: And Mitchell are the kings of this. You now have
Speaker 1: a problem with what you are you watching. First off,
Speaker 1: you're watching okay, see with the eight with the aight
Speaker 1: o bun saw and then what's his name again? Aj
Speaker 1: A Mitchell?
Speaker 3: Aj Mitchell nineteen five and four in the playoffs and
Speaker 3: mister mckinne. Bro he makes less than three million dollars. Bro.
Speaker 1: Listen, Bro, he was hurt so he didn't play. But Bro,
Speaker 1: he's been like a breath of fresh affter him. Bro,
Speaker 1: he shaking. Now take her down there, seven to ten
Speaker 1: minute rest. If you want to p in the in
Speaker 1: the in the in the in the offense will sustain
Speaker 1: he putting pressure. You remember what you were saying, coming
Speaker 1: down here, going to somebody chest. That's his game, coming
Speaker 1: down here in your chest, in this shade, layup package,
Speaker 1: er package, all that shit you watching. You're watching okac
Speaker 1: You see what they're doing. Yeah, they ready for it.
Speaker 1: Finland Champs. They better than they was last year because
Speaker 1: guys got better. They got no ego on there. You
Speaker 1: got different guys every night effect the game, and it's
Speaker 1: like damn like and you got them on good deals,
Speaker 1: like McCain is still on a rookie deal.
Speaker 2: And then you got Mitchell he I think he did
Speaker 2: a three year, eight million something, yeah a deal. And
Speaker 2: you so now you get players like that. You got
Speaker 2: all your your big mint yo, yo, your stars is
Speaker 2: all signed. So you get at least a couple more years.
Speaker 1: But and you got some picks in the long run.
Speaker 1: They built for the long pea. We're in the old
Speaker 1: k C dynasty right now.
Speaker 2: Lord, Yeah, they built for the long run because they
Speaker 2: can as long as you keep your cord together if
Speaker 2: you can, and then you just you could keep rotating
Speaker 2: them other pieces because it's gonna be other pieces like that,
Speaker 2: uh that you're gonna be able to.
Speaker 1: Keep what you something.
Speaker 2: You just got to keep drafting well these rookies because
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to eventually gonna have to pay these
Speaker 2: guys in a couple of years or next year.
Speaker 1: So you got to add some really good rookie. He's like,
Speaker 1: like you've been.
Speaker 2: Doing, just keep doing what you're doing. You a farmhouse
Speaker 2: that you get the guys come over to get experience.
Speaker 2: And I'm seeing the same thing in San Antonio. You're
Speaker 2: getting production from guys they got dumb about it. You're
Speaker 2: getting production of guys who making less than five million
Speaker 2: probably should be getting twenty.
Speaker 1: Million cast over sale. Yeah, they should be getting there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You see gets a lot
Speaker 1: of parody with those two. Well, I mean, just on
Speaker 1: how the two franchises are growing with their It's it's
Speaker 1: just the model, It's what I'm saying. The model. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have to draft, well, gotta develop, bro.
Speaker 2: You gotta draft, well, you gotta develop and draft well,
Speaker 2: like something together.
Speaker 1: P You just can't draft it's not developed.
Speaker 2: The thing I don't like is the coach is the
Speaker 2: first one to get acts because of the GM's doing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like you look at GMS,
Speaker 2: the coach may feel a certain way about a player,
Speaker 2: and then you look up, like you know, over there,
Speaker 2: Daryl Mourray got fired. I mean you look up, he
Speaker 2: traded Jared McCain on a rookie deal.
Speaker 1: Like what is going on? Really? Like now?
Speaker 2: So now now you're stuck in the red with these
Speaker 2: aging veterans, where Okay, if you wanted to get off
Speaker 2: one of him, at least you got another trade chip
Speaker 2: and McCain who got some value to package with Georgia
Speaker 2: or MB But you gave.
Speaker 1: Up a chip a major trip.
Speaker 2: You gotta understand, this kid was in Rookie of the
Speaker 2: Year talks when he was like and he was getting
Speaker 2: he was hurt. But then you saw VJ. Edgecombe come along.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to keep them guys who are good on
Speaker 2: rookie deals in your system.
Speaker 1: That was your three headed monster right there that you
Speaker 1: gave away for nothing. Man, Now now you see where
Speaker 1: he at and okay, see, okay, got charged and they
Speaker 1: got a chance to run the table to Pete on
Speaker 1: some real ship. I don't see anybody other than the
Speaker 1: Spurs in Minnesota, A couple other teams you can name,
Speaker 1: you know, actually being uh maybe the Knicks. They get
Speaker 1: some depth, you know what I'm saying. But they are
Speaker 1: their their their strength, pet is their depth when you
Speaker 1: take out Kso and Caruso comes in that level of
Speaker 1: of of of of of defense and intensity and he
Speaker 1: starts picking you up a whole nother way. Like that
Speaker 1: ship is a buzz all right, now, bro.
Speaker 2: They got so much value in these frans for franchises
Speaker 2: to move forward, like because like you got, you got,
Speaker 2: everybody is searching. Everybody's gonna keep in a close eye
Speaker 2: on San Antonio and okay see for the next four
Speaker 2: to five years, and they're gonna be trying to snip
Speaker 2: them from some of them players because the money gonna
Speaker 2: be coming up, and it's gonna be like, oh, let
Speaker 2: me get him, boom, let me get him. Man, you're
Speaker 2: gonna have they're gonnay, ain't gonna be able to resign
Speaker 2: them like.
Speaker 1: This year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got team options on Hartenstein, lou Door, Wallace
Speaker 3: and you got, you got, you got.
Speaker 1: You can bring you can bring all of them back
Speaker 1: for one more year team option.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so that's the team. They're gonna have to
Speaker 3: opt into it. But problem because you pick it up.
Speaker 1: You pick it up. We pick it up for one
Speaker 1: more year and then we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty six million this year and next
Speaker 3: year it's two hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 1: Dig Yeah, well we gotta pick it up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just this is what Danny fucked it up.
Speaker 1: Danny Foie man on that team. Man, you win doll.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to run the team. Man, supposed to let
Speaker 1: that team run four five years. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And they young too, Bro.
Speaker 3: Quickly want to touch on the draft lottery. So last
Speaker 3: week I asked you guys, who what team would you
Speaker 3: want to see get the number one pick? Washington was
Speaker 3: one of the teams we named, and the lottery ball
Speaker 3: still in their favor. Here's what you guys think about
Speaker 3: the draft lottery and also the Pacers getting screwed out
Speaker 3: of the draft.
Speaker 1: And went to the Clippers.
Speaker 3: Right he exit fell to five, so the Clippers got
Speaker 3: it back.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Pee, what's your thoughts on the draft? Bro?
Speaker 1: Washington Wizards got the first pick Anthony Davis lucky charm
Speaker 1: is a real thing. H What I'm saying, what you're doing?
Speaker 1: Are you watching anything? Peak this? So the draft happens, right,
Speaker 1: pick comes out? Yeah, they put they put the camera
Speaker 1: on the board. The boy didn't look all excited. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: had low energy or you know, just woke up. He
Speaker 1: was tired, you know what I'm saying. Tired. Right then
Speaker 1: they show Hish y'all watching, Are y'all watching? Are you
Speaker 1: watching any of the draft?
Speaker 3: I definitely tuned into the draft lottery. You saw his
Speaker 3: three people the combine you're saying.
Speaker 1: So the combine he's combined and looked like he was
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like he was all interested
Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't know. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 1: looking at. I'm just looking. I'm observing. Tell me your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Washington Wizards getting the number one pick in uh? Yeah, two?
Speaker 3: So to mention in Utah has been one.
Speaker 1: So do you think they I think those who swap?
Speaker 1: I think you think those who swap? You think you
Speaker 1: think Utah tries to get a j at the eleventh hour?
Speaker 1: Oh and do you like that if he goes to
Speaker 1: Utah versus going to Washington.
Speaker 2: Well, if he goes I like this Utah, that means
Speaker 2: Utah will have to put in a player.
Speaker 1: That's already there in the trade.
Speaker 3: Would get the job done? You think to get one.
Speaker 1: A Bailey and two should get the job done. Bringing
Speaker 1: one of them? I mean that would I would definitely
Speaker 1: I would do that if from Washington Bailey Washington, I'll
Speaker 1: do that, damn. So Okay, Washington. Okay, that's good for
Speaker 1: both teams. It's good for both teams. But if ain't Bailey,
Speaker 1: so you moving as Bailey for agent, get to play
Speaker 1: with them together and get it all together. And I
Speaker 1: get a Bailey and Darrin Peterson.
Speaker 3: And then you have George aj Debanta, Triple J Lowry Mark.
Speaker 2: It's good for both teams. It works because Washington gonna
Speaker 2: get a two guard and.
Speaker 3: Wants to play the one. He has mentioned he wants
Speaker 3: to be a point guard in the Yeah.
Speaker 1: He bet a chill on that. Well, they got Trey
Speaker 1: Young in Washington.
Speaker 3: If they do that, I don't know, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: He fits perfectly. And man, you want to listen. You
Speaker 1: see our Cooper flag. Life was a little easier with
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis on the floor. Glin. Anthony Davis still draws
Speaker 1: a lot of attention, draws double teams, can pass. He's
Speaker 1: a really good passer. Obviously got perimeter game. He draws.
Speaker 1: You know, a double team, bro, you can really learn
Speaker 1: something off a big guy like that. And then Trey
Speaker 1: Young probably one of the best point guards we got
Speaker 1: in our league. That you know what I'm saying, Like Washington,
Speaker 1: Washington got some pieces man, they got the kid, not
Speaker 1: not Key Day, but what's the name Keith Sean? I
Speaker 1: like him and the kid what's the other kid name
Speaker 1: that that's up there? He got a bad damn what's
Speaker 1: his name? He got the boyman K.
Speaker 3: Johnson from Texas.
Speaker 1: Johnson and Key Shawn Keith Shank Shawn and uh yeah
Speaker 1: them to them too nice. I saw when they had
Speaker 1: all that talent up in Washington. I watched how they
Speaker 1: how them two was really standing up Washington. Got some promise. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like I like him. Next year, I like them
Speaker 1: the battle for a playoff spot. They're gonna better in
Speaker 1: the heat or some of them teams that's in the
Speaker 1: I don't matter who the heat are. They just well coached.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Culture. Yeah, he's gonna always play hard
Speaker 1: every day. I don't care who they put in there.
Speaker 1: I can't say anybody can be better than me. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I won't want better for Bam though. That's
Speaker 1: why I say that. Man, Miami such a a dope
Speaker 1: place to play, dope culture, you know. I hope they
Speaker 1: I hope they have obviously to able to get some
Speaker 1: good players to come down there. Man, Any noise to this,
Speaker 1: Uh Jannis and uh Jaylen Brown. Uh that you're doing that.
Speaker 2: I don't think I do that because I won with
Speaker 2: these guys already. Like first off, Jonas is hurt the
Speaker 2: last couple of years and Jalen is younger. That's not
Speaker 2: even something.
Speaker 1: I'm not even entertaining that, Like it's nothing that I
Speaker 1: can just say, like based on the injuries basically he
Speaker 1: being older, and I got a guy that's been in
Speaker 1: the system, that's one I won with. I can't I
Speaker 1: can't break that. I can't overthink it. That's doing too much,
Speaker 1: too much. So we're thinking of like, don't even there's
Speaker 1: nothing even to think about it. Really, you just gotta
Speaker 1: add to what's already there. Add to that. You're the
Speaker 1: Celtics and you got a chance to get in bed.
Speaker 1: Do you go get in beat? No, he doesn't fit
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do over here. But I need
Speaker 1: a utility, big Hargenstein. But your boy in New York,
Speaker 1: what's the boy come off the bench, Mitch Robinson.
Speaker 2: We need like bringing up I really don't like that
Speaker 2: for the Celtics system. I need I like Hardenstein because
Speaker 2: the Celtics can go get in with the trade exception.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But he fits. He fit.
Speaker 2: I like what Kate bring like the next big I bring.
Speaker 2: He gotta be out of stretch the defense. He got
Speaker 2: to be in the same mode as like our Harford
Speaker 2: or persingers.
Speaker 1: Don't take them play the fun. But my five gotta
Speaker 1: be at a knockdown shot. You just sell utility five.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about that can knock down shots?
Speaker 3: So another trade exception guy that fits in that would.
Speaker 1: Be Miles mos Turner.
Speaker 2: He might fit a little better actually, when I look
Speaker 2: at the fit of what the Celtics need at that spot.
Speaker 1: Guy who stretched the floor like like you got a
Speaker 1: bag though, and I think he got to become a
Speaker 1: better I wish he was a better rebounder for them though.
Speaker 1: He fits what you're talking about, and he got a
Speaker 1: big number with him though you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: It's right there, trade reception twenty.
Speaker 3: Eight, right around that window, run around that, right around
Speaker 3: Mox shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's should be an interesting summer, right Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you just add to what the Soul's already doing.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to make a major trade.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a crazy summing.
Speaker 1: Unless it's financial. You know, he got new owner, so
Speaker 1: you never know.
Speaker 3: Let's just think of this is up in the air, Brown,
Speaker 3: up in the air, KD up in the air. We
Speaker 3: haven't had an off season, Like it's gonna be a dope, yo.
Speaker 2: I mean, I believe that they're gonna be really searching
Speaker 2: for trays for Inmbeed. I believe there's gonna be people
Speaker 2: making calls for Giannis. I mean, we already know John
Speaker 2: Morant's gonna be in the in the conversations, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of conversations that's gonna be had it happened, I
Speaker 2: don't know, but it's a lot of names that's gonna
Speaker 2: be thrown in conversations.
Speaker 1: This something. And I just want to take a second
Speaker 1: to do a rest in peace to Brandon Clark, respecially
Speaker 1: to his family and to the whole Memphis organization. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we lost Jason Collins, former teammate ours. You know,
Speaker 1: a guy who I actually been knowing and played again
Speaker 1: since we was like probably like twelve years old out
Speaker 1: here in the California circuit. Yeah, that was That's like,
Speaker 1: it don't even matter if you know the guy in
Speaker 1: the NBA or you or you don't like you just
Speaker 1: it just feel a certain way one of your your
Speaker 1: brethren is passed, you know, especially being young, and then
Speaker 1: especially what Collins, being a teammate of his jac you know,
Speaker 1: and being around them and everything, and you look up
Speaker 1: and you see the news. It's never it's just like
Speaker 1: it's like a family member pasted. Like because when I heard,
Speaker 1: I didn't even believe it. It was just like, no,
Speaker 1: come on now, and it kind of like hit me.
Speaker 1: It like hit me. I had to sit there and
Speaker 1: be like damn. You know, it just makes you bring appreciation.
Speaker 1: So you know, even like this, And I was telling
Speaker 1: my family, you know, my kids, and I love y'all
Speaker 1: every day, you know, don't take nothing for granted. Don't
Speaker 1: take to each other for granted, don't take days for granted.
Speaker 1: You know it Saturday. It comes to like things of
Speaker 1: this nature that just make you realize that when we
Speaker 1: should be like realizing it every single day. Yeah. Just
Speaker 1: he was cool people man, real talk, had a personality,
Speaker 1: laid back, he was chilled and I played against him
Speaker 1: for years. When I first played with Paul, actually first
Speaker 1: time I played him and his brother was in Vegas
Speaker 1: and they had like a little edge to him, and
Speaker 1: you know it battled all through the years and stuff,
Speaker 1: but we finally got to be teammates and d Bean
Speaker 1: and also in Brooklyn, and yeah, he was dealing with
Speaker 1: you know, living his truth and really like coming out
Speaker 1: of his own shell and shit. But yeah, he was cool. Man.
Speaker 1: He was a great teammate and great for the locker
Speaker 1: room man. Shout out to JC Man and the Collins family. Man,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, my boy man. Keep loving each other,
Speaker 1: man taking the truth. Babse