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Speaker 4: Danny McCrae, Heck Maharrison, Barry Church, I've knew, he scrugs,
Speaker 4: and boy, things have changed since we last sat here
Speaker 4: at the table.
Speaker 3: Have a notice about things.
Speaker 4: Dan Quinn, It took two years longer than I thought,
Speaker 4: but Dan Quinn is now out of here.
Speaker 3: He is the head coach of the Washington Command.
Speaker 1: No, and then we all think it was gonna be
Speaker 1: the Seahouse. Everybody, everybody, Mama thought he was going to Seattle.
Speaker 4: There was a whole bunch of connections to people thought.
Speaker 4: I mean the people in Washington. My folks were swearing
Speaker 4: up and down it was gonna be Ben Johnson the
Speaker 4: Lions OC and didn't happen. So they had me on
Speaker 4: the NBC Washington basically trying to calm the natives down because.
Speaker 3: They mad about Dan Quinn up there, they sat, they
Speaker 3: are salty about like that man, we want him. He's retread.
Speaker 4: I mean they there's a truckload of fans up there
Speaker 4: disappointed to day.
Speaker 1: They call it retread. Yes, wow, are you kidding me? Wow?
Speaker 1: So be checking him? Are the two coaches out there
Speaker 1: who were actually looking for a job they had been
Speaker 1: going to a Super Bowl?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Ain't they mad about that?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, franchise that ain't did nothing in years.
Speaker 3: That's wild, that's wild.
Speaker 4: And so the other prevailing thought disappointment out there is
Speaker 4: that their new GM Adam Peters like you couldn't get
Speaker 4: who you wanted, and that they said Ben Johnson was
Speaker 4: asking fifteen million.
Speaker 3: They want to pay the price. And then the.
Speaker 4: DC fan base is saying, well, this guy is basically
Speaker 4: Ron Ravera.
Speaker 3: That is what So I said.
Speaker 4: I did it a little thing for NBC Washington, and
Speaker 4: it was talking about DQ and and one of the
Speaker 4: things I said is you have to get out of
Speaker 4: your mind. Twenty eight to three. Now, that's what you
Speaker 4: have to get out of your mind. Because I was
Speaker 4: there too when they brought him in right here. I'm like,
Speaker 4: come on, man, this is the twenty three guy and
Speaker 4: then and then you know, things went downhill in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: We saw a totally different person and where fan bases
Speaker 4: and people in general can forget. We are never who
Speaker 4: we are on our worst day. We're never that right true.
Speaker 1: Take it for me. Take it from me, man, you
Speaker 1: don't miss a shott. That's how you're doing.
Speaker 3: Listening.
Speaker 4: So for DQ and he's done here. This guy people,
Speaker 4: he's predictable, he's this, he's at dan Quinn was nothing
Speaker 4: but good here?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 3: What about that forty Green Bay put on you in
Speaker 3: the playoffs that bad day?
Speaker 4: But it wasn't just deep you And I said, anybody
Speaker 4: on that D line making all Pro at the D
Speaker 4: tackle spot. If you're gon beat the Cowboys, we can
Speaker 4: run on them. It's been a problem for a few
Speaker 4: years now. Dan Quinn no control money. They try to
Speaker 4: draft somebody. This dude decided to go on the slim fast.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, late Vander, I said, Man, this defense was
Speaker 4: Scott's taped together by the Indy over did a really
Speaker 4: good job, I said.
Speaker 3: And I talked about Tyrone.
Speaker 4: Blandarn Bland, I said, dron Bland leads the league in
Speaker 4: picks two years ago before that you had Digs lead
Speaker 4: the league.
Speaker 3: Pick anybody want to check what this defense was and
Speaker 3: I might know it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, folks in DC and like you've got
Speaker 4: a good coach, and go look at everybody he hired
Speaker 4: in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: You see that.
Speaker 1: Atlanta staff, think you That's my thing about a twenty
Speaker 1: eight to three thing where everybody's like, okay, they got
Speaker 1: an issue with that. The coaching staff that was there,
Speaker 1: them dudes is out there too, all right, how we
Speaker 1: ain killing more? It is killing more that Shanny was
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator out there. Okay. So if Sanahan was
Speaker 1: going to Washington would be saying the same thing. But
Speaker 1: essentially twenty eight to three, you're looking at your office coordinator, say, man,
Speaker 1: all we have to do is hold on. All we
Speaker 1: got to do is hold on you out here getting
Speaker 1: stripsack fumbled, you know what I'm saying for touchdowns all
Speaker 1: this other type of stuff. So when you look at
Speaker 1: that game organization, like the Cowboys, who hasn't gone to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, NFC championship is so long, and you
Speaker 1: over it, hate on the duke. Washington ain't done nothing
Speaker 1: since RG three numbers there and they overill complain about that.
Speaker 1: I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Shanahand lost ten point leader Super Bowl to thet. You
Speaker 3: can't see the chief talking.
Speaker 1: About got to say this, man, I don't think that
Speaker 1: when the decision came down, I wasn't surprised. I don't
Speaker 1: think any of us was surprised. You've been talking about
Speaker 1: DQ leaving for two years now, so I think the
Speaker 1: organization has had plenty of runway to make a decision
Speaker 1: on who is going to succeed him as the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Commanders. They get a guy that falls
Speaker 1: in their lap, that has approven commodity in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So he's and you hear the way that the players
Speaker 1: talked about him while he was leaving, what Michael said
Speaker 1: about him, what everybody's ever been coached about him says
Speaker 1: about him. And now his staff that he's putting together,
Speaker 1: Joe Waddes, DC, Cliff Kingsbury. Now O see, I mean
Speaker 1: things are looking up from in Washington, when for so
Speaker 1: long they had no hope anyway. So look like I said,
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised. I wasn't when he took the job.
Speaker 1: I was. I really thought he was going to be
Speaker 1: in Seattle, So I mean going to the Commanders, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not really indifferent about it. The one thing
Speaker 1: that I'm waiting on is where they come draft, because
Speaker 1: if they get Caleb Williams, I think that's the thing
Speaker 1: that really makes him in that position even more interesting
Speaker 1: because we know him as a defensive coordinator, but now
Speaker 1: he's going to have a top quarterback in his hands
Speaker 1: and how's he going to work that? So just in
Speaker 1: a football sense, but d q's got to get his
Speaker 1: flowers for what he did here. All that talk twenty
Speaker 1: eight three whatever, man, that's what else, that's nonsense. They
Speaker 1: got a really good coach and I appreciate what he
Speaker 1: did im with.
Speaker 3: Y'all on now.
Speaker 6: I think Washington got an extremely solid higher And when
Speaker 6: you're talking about Dan Quinn, not only the guy on
Speaker 6: the football field, but what he's able to do in
Speaker 6: the culture in the locker room.
Speaker 1: You know what he was able to do here turning
Speaker 1: this thing around defensively.
Speaker 6: And Mike McCarthy has a lot of credit to that
Speaker 6: as well, But dan quit on the defensive side of
Speaker 6: the ball, had those guys flying. You know, they're playing
Speaker 6: like their heroes on fire. They woul run through a
Speaker 6: brick wall for their coach, and that's what you love
Speaker 6: to see. So to me, he's a ultimate players coaching
Speaker 6: those guys in Washington. They should open, you know, open
Speaker 6: their arms to him. So I think it was an
Speaker 6: extremely good higher And you make a great point when
Speaker 6: you talk about that number two pick that they got
Speaker 6: right now, because I believe Washington they got pieces around.
Speaker 6: I mean, they're not just a scrub team out there.
Speaker 6: I think there's one quarterback away from kind of being
Speaker 6: competitive saying that they're gonna, you know, go to the
Speaker 6: super Bowl anything like that, but being competitive. I think
Speaker 6: they're one quarterback away. They got the pieces offensively, and
Speaker 6: we know what dan Quinn could bring to a defense.
Speaker 6: You got those Bama boys on the inside. You know,
Speaker 6: they need some help in the secondary, in the on
Speaker 6: the second level. But that's something I believe dan Quinn
Speaker 6: can fix. We saw here when he came into Dallas
Speaker 6: that Nolan defense was god offing.
Speaker 1: They had what I think.
Speaker 6: Eleven draft picks that that year, and they used a
Speaker 6: lot of them on defense and pretty much restructured that
Speaker 6: entire defense and turned it all around to where the
Speaker 6: defense was the strength of his team for almost two years,
Speaker 6: you know, going into the back half of this year.
Speaker 1: So to me, I think it's an extremely good hire
Speaker 1: for Washington and we'll see what they do.
Speaker 6: Because if you look at the OC they hired, was
Speaker 6: it at Cliff Kingsbury. Yes, worked with Caleb Williams over
Speaker 6: there at the USC, so they got a connection going there.
Speaker 6: So to me, they're going in the right direction. And
Speaker 6: I don't see why. You know, the Washington fan basis
Speaker 6: is upset about this.
Speaker 1: You finally got you know, he sent Dan Quinn packing
Speaker 1: about two weeks ago than you all, So who else
Speaker 1: you gonna take?
Speaker 3: Witty?
Speaker 7: So take it out to the interesting party man taking
Speaker 7: it out with you already come here anyway, he might
Speaker 7: have his own guys.
Speaker 4: Therein lies that next domino effect of who becomes the
Speaker 4: d C. So the interviews started today at nine o'clock.
Speaker 4: A dirty the defensive line coach who DQ worked within
Speaker 4: the past or he's going to be interview. Ron Rivera
Speaker 4: is supposed to get an interview, former Washington head coach,
Speaker 4: and then Mike zimmer A, former Viking's head coach and
Speaker 4: former defensive coordinator. Here these are the people right now
Speaker 4: that are scheduled that we've heard about when we when
Speaker 4: Dan Quinn got hired. The conversation we had on the show,
Speaker 4: I believe it was before you got here. Heckman was
Speaker 4: if you bring in the DC, you need to let
Speaker 4: him bring in his guys, the people who understand what
Speaker 4: it is he wants dirty right there on the D line.
Speaker 4: Then you had Joe Witt in the back. These are
Speaker 4: guys that DQ knew, and the DQ also worked with
Speaker 4: D Line as well, and did George Edwards, and DQ
Speaker 4: had a really good thing going. He bringing someone else?
Speaker 4: Do you help him bring in his own guys? Because
Speaker 4: these coaches are all on one year deals. I mean
Speaker 4: to me, Joe went played it perfectly. He went up
Speaker 4: there with DQ. You got more years. You're here on
Speaker 4: a one year deal. You don't know up there?
Speaker 1: You good.
Speaker 3: He's gonna let you call the D the way you
Speaker 3: want to. And so you're strange.
Speaker 4: So but understand, Al Harris can't just go from here
Speaker 4: to Washington. It's only if you get a promotion. So
Speaker 4: with got a promotion, you could leave. So you just
Speaker 4: can't dirty, just can't say right, they got contracts, got contracts,
Speaker 4: and so that's gonna be very interesting on who.
Speaker 3: They decide to hire.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this, Heck, I'm surprised they don't
Speaker 4: have more of a ready to go well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really think a masterclass should be taught
Speaker 1: in Jerry Jones' decision not to sign Mike McCarthy to
Speaker 1: an extension on his coaching deal, to make him coach
Speaker 1: a one year deal. That's the one thing that's tying
Speaker 1: this whole thing up because I think Joe Witt had
Speaker 1: to make a decision based on that, and I think
Speaker 1: other coaches will make a decision based off of that.
Speaker 1: If you're on the outside of the Cowboys organization, you know,
Speaker 1: if you come here, you're coming on a one year deal,
Speaker 1: and if you have all the variables that come with that,
Speaker 1: ie family, the OG. I guess whatever it is, do
Speaker 1: you go somewhere for one year and not have the
Speaker 1: security that you said how Joe Witten positioned himself perfectly
Speaker 1: for a five year deal going with DQ. Look, I
Speaker 1: think the sensible thing to do is that the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator is already on your staff.
Speaker 3: I think you go to the guy that you have
Speaker 3: in house.
Speaker 1: Okay, I believe it's my fault it's my endorsement that
Speaker 1: I'm saying Al Harris should be that guy, because I
Speaker 1: think here is what you have and Dan Quinn as
Speaker 1: a players coach, a guy that's as far as the
Speaker 1: players are concerned, gonna have your respect off the top.
Speaker 1: And you know that he's a guy that understands defense,
Speaker 1: so the only way to maneuver. And he's a Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy guy as well, so that takes the whole equation
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 3: You don't have to go with a guy on the outside.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they're interviewing all these guys, but that's
Speaker 1: where my recommendation, and I'm with you.
Speaker 6: On that, to promote somebody within house, because now if
Speaker 6: you bring somebody else from the outside, like you said,
Speaker 6: they're gonna have to bring their own guys. And we've
Speaker 6: been there where guys kind of stayed in that new
Speaker 6: DC came in and the guys that were a part
Speaker 6: of the old regime kind of have that, you know,
Speaker 6: belief in this system. And that guy's bringing my system.
Speaker 6: Y'all gotta you gotta teach them this way. You got
Speaker 6: to teach them that way, and they butt hands. I mean,
Speaker 6: we've seen it time and time again they butt heads
Speaker 6: in the secondary where it's like, no, we want to
Speaker 6: teach them this way. We want to teach cover three
Speaker 6: this way, and our guy Drome Henderson was like, no,
Speaker 6: we want to go this way.
Speaker 1: This is how this team.
Speaker 6: I've been with these guys for different and you butt
Speaker 6: hands that way and that, and that's how communication eras
Speaker 6: start and that's how you get busted in the secondary
Speaker 6: and busting the defensive overall.
Speaker 1: So if you bringing a new guy, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to clean house. I mean they gonna have to.
Speaker 6: So I'm with it as far as bringing somebody from
Speaker 6: within the organization that's already there, already knows these players,
Speaker 6: already knows how they like to play, the defenses and
Speaker 6: all that good stuff, so we'll see how they go.
Speaker 1: I'm not on the same page as y'all. Like I
Speaker 1: believe in dan Quinn his ability to call the players
Speaker 1: at the right time and then motivate the guys in
Speaker 1: a certain way. And I even though you still have
Speaker 1: the same system, you do not have the dan Quinn
Speaker 1: to make that system go. So I think, to me,
Speaker 1: it's different. You are interviewing guys who if you're interviewing them,
Speaker 1: you assume that they understand the situation as well, and
Speaker 1: you also know that they have their guys who they're
Speaker 1: probably contacted already saying, hey man, you got your bags
Speaker 1: packed and you're ready to go, because if I get
Speaker 1: this job, you're coming with me. This is the situation,
Speaker 1: all right. We already know what the Mike McCarter situation is.
Speaker 1: He has one year left on his deal. But we're
Speaker 1: going here for X reason, all right, and if it works,
Speaker 1: it works. If it doesn't, it's done, it doesn't, and
Speaker 1: you okay, And then these coaches take these interviews. If
Speaker 1: you got a guy who's going to come in understanding
Speaker 1: that and it's able to bring in something new, not
Speaker 1: trying to do the same thing with a different person
Speaker 1: on somebody else's scheme, than I would go in that direction.
Speaker 1: Like I just I don't know how confident I am
Speaker 1: one because, like you said, at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: we were sitting there saying, I don't know, right, he
Speaker 1: still said, we've been having trouble in the run game
Speaker 1: for years. We haven't been able to get that figured out,
Speaker 1: even with Dan Quinn here. So I just don't think
Speaker 1: doing the same thing with a different person is going
Speaker 1: to equal success in the way that the all in
Speaker 1: success that you're saying that you're trying to go get.
Speaker 1: Let me just all I'm saying is the time, proof
Speaker 1: and consistency is not with Al Harris as a play
Speaker 1: caller and a defensive coordinator. I think he's a guy
Speaker 1: that understands how you use your key pieces that you
Speaker 1: have right now. A new coach, he's not going to
Speaker 1: bring in a three four because you don't have the
Speaker 1: personnel for it. And that's a complete overhaul. Like you
Speaker 1: just said, playing cover three, although it's the same, certain
Speaker 1: guys like to call it different. The success that you're
Speaker 1: having right now with your cornerback room with the run
Speaker 1: Bland guys like that Trayvon Diggs, You're having that success
Speaker 1: because one you have a coordinator or a cornerbacks coach
Speaker 1: that really speaks directly to these guys, these guys' language,
Speaker 1: even Michael Parson's, how you use him, And don't forget
Speaker 1: that you have a piece in Michael Parsons that you
Speaker 1: still have to specialize your defense around. Let's not forget
Speaker 1: that any other defensive coordinator when he comes in here,
Speaker 1: the first piece he wants to touch is Michael Parsons?
Speaker 1: How do you use number eleven? I just want to
Speaker 1: sit down with Al Harris and see how what's his scheme,
Speaker 1: What's he gonna do.
Speaker 4: Here's the issue so far, I'm talking about Al Harris.
Speaker 4: He's not listed absolutely only the candidate list right now.
Speaker 4: Maybe he will be, but right now we're talking about something.
Speaker 1: That isn't possibility. Yeah, like why you know they.
Speaker 4: See We're seeing something they're not seeing, and that becomes
Speaker 4: that conversation. You guys all do this when you talk
Speaker 4: to your cowboy fans and they ask you questions, you
Speaker 4: try to talk to him. I can talk to you
Speaker 4: in terms of what they're doing or what you want
Speaker 4: me to think or or I'm thinking, because just because
Speaker 4: I think that way, it don't matter the way.
Speaker 3: It's about what I get and I'm with you. Al Harris,
Speaker 3: I think is a pretty dog on good dude.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, man, I I look at
Speaker 4: the Rams. They just promoted Shula, Shula's grandson to be
Speaker 4: the DC. They keep promoting guys, you know, from from
Speaker 4: from within what they're doing and younger people. When when
Speaker 4: you start to see Zimmer and rivera, I start to say, well,
Speaker 4: this is gonna be some fresh ideas, or are we
Speaker 4: gonna look at some younger people.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna keep on finding people who.
Speaker 1: Used to do want to super Bowl? Who was the
Speaker 1: defense cordinator?
Speaker 3: It was Rahee Morris. And and and I'll say this
Speaker 3: about Raheem.
Speaker 4: I always thought that Raheem Morris was a guy who
Speaker 4: got a job young.
Speaker 3: It was a tough situation.
Speaker 4: Who was sitting here at a spot where he was
Speaker 4: good at but was more was you know, where, not
Speaker 4: where he needed to be. I've always thought Raheem Morris
Speaker 4: was head coach and a guy worthy of a second dag.
Speaker 3: He finally got it. But Brandon Staley was the defensive
Speaker 3: coordinator for the Rams before that. And sorry.
Speaker 1: But but you know, for some.
Speaker 4: Crazy reason, Raheem Warris got lost more text where normally
Speaker 4: that doesn't happen to people who are talented and young
Speaker 4: and good, but it happened to him.
Speaker 3: Luckily he got out of it. But here's McVeigh, you know,
Speaker 3: just like he did with the coach the Bengals.
Speaker 4: You know that guy had you know, he was his
Speaker 4: old seven know he was calling the plays and Zac
Speaker 4: Taylor ended up going from there. I mean several coaches
Speaker 4: off mcday's tree that were younger, younger people that he
Speaker 4: gave shots to were able to get out of there.
Speaker 4: So if you're the Cowboys at some point in time,
Speaker 4: do you decide.
Speaker 1: To do that? I don't know. I just heard you
Speaker 1: say fresh ideas, and I don't think promoting from inside
Speaker 1: trying to keep the same voice, same system as a
Speaker 1: fresh idea. I just I just don't feel that way
Speaker 1: when you think about, Okay, the wars that we had
Speaker 1: on defense and how you are going to change those
Speaker 1: warts on defense, because we know we're not going to
Speaker 1: go any further if we are going into another year
Speaker 1: of not being able to stop the run. We know
Speaker 1: what pieces we have on the outside with On Diggs,
Speaker 1: darn Blain, we know we have Michael Parsons in there.
Speaker 1: But as far as you making the correct changes, which
Speaker 1: we've tried. We drafted defensive line, they bridgeway, We got
Speaker 1: them out of here in the ear and we now
Speaker 1: we got hangers. I remember, uh no, no, who's the
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, Remember Nolan was here. They got
Speaker 1: him out of here real quick, big boy about Terry,
Speaker 1: when you when you think about it, like how Dad
Speaker 1: Quinn wasn't even here that, but you're just thinking about, okay,
Speaker 1: new ideas and that it went from Don Terry Poe
Speaker 1: to Dan Quinn coming in new ideas on the defensive
Speaker 1: line and we still ain't found a way to get
Speaker 1: it done. What do you have to do to figure
Speaker 1: out a way to say, you know what, our defensive
Speaker 1: line is going to be the strength of our team.
Speaker 1: But Danny, I think where I'm caught is that I
Speaker 1: feel like next season you have to raise expectations for
Speaker 1: your team.
Speaker 3: They have to be they have to have some belief
Speaker 3: in who you bring in.
Speaker 1: Whether I mean we were talking about the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: from Kansas City him, you know, coaching the New York
Speaker 1: Giants and to where they are right now. I just
Speaker 1: feel like the expectation for these players has to be
Speaker 1: has to be listened to. And if it's eight and thirty,
Speaker 1: if it's Al Harris, I don't I just believe your
Speaker 1: defensive failings, the warts, as you called them, was just
Speaker 1: one thing. The running game they running and if you
Speaker 1: can get that stop, if you can find a way
Speaker 1: to scheme up to get that stop, I think your
Speaker 1: defense is leaps and bounds better need linebackers too.
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Speaker 1: All right, forty two. They're probably forty four down. But
Speaker 1: I think you are right for sure.
Speaker 3: You're looking at him COVID price.
Speaker 1: Let me check my wee week at the care is
Speaker 1: going up.
Speaker 5: It's going up.
Speaker 3: His price. The pride of Toledo.
Speaker 1: Now everybody know you, the Pride of Toledo. Let him
Speaker 1: know you're gonna work. Got man, you're gonna wor to
Speaker 1: certain he wants to leado ship one day. He better
Speaker 1: jacket you got. He's gonna pay up.
Speaker 4: The most Toledo swag has been that time I brought
Speaker 4: that the rocky from from my kids.
Speaker 1: Got a car sweater, sweaters, he got the start of sweaters,
Speaker 1: been therse Toledo sweaters. I got bag. Yeah, I got flag. Guy,
Speaker 1: I got a flag in your rooms and it's your
Speaker 1: Toledo jersey. Up.
Speaker 3: He's your degree.
Speaker 1: Why degrees up?
Speaker 3: Degrees up?
Speaker 1: Degree degrees up? But I don't know a man that's crazy.
Speaker 1: The contrast that this one and this this man man
Speaker 1: got t c U Pinbrooke. He got all the stuff
Speaker 1: and you don't want nothing that we don't know where
Speaker 1: you went. And you know you know you trustee though
Speaker 1: I'm not mean you were trusting barm trust I ain't
Speaker 1: doing that trusty stuff they did. But the lights we're
Speaker 1: doing that. The yeah I got to take. They got
Speaker 1: that whole trustee board up. Out of the likes, they
Speaker 1: was like your services said you recommended Digital underground.
Speaker 12: And they saw new Struggs was like you, but the
Speaker 12: trusty Scruggs. But the word when I was that didn't happen.
Speaker 12: The home coming actual good. When I was in church,
Speaker 12: they made them bring his I Pad. They bring you
Speaker 12: out all of it and coach want to see you
Speaker 12: follow me, brother card don't work. Alumni was hot with you,
Speaker 12: was with me. Do me and my more Abdual had nothing.
Speaker 12: They brought in Laurie Morgan last.
Speaker 1: Year, paying my trustee. They get it right on bomm.
Speaker 3: This is about you man.
Speaker 13: Have my diet on this okay, my money I got
Speaker 13: to in down scholarships, your stuff.
Speaker 1: Let him know you let him know. I think you
Speaker 1: need an endownment to t C. You two be the
Speaker 1: biggest one man.
Speaker 13: We got three down. I got children going to college,
Speaker 13: collection player work. I gotta pay my Kansas state funding.
Speaker 1: Now, he tapped down. By the way, take care you
Speaker 1: get your free parades for life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to believe me. I'm out there
Speaker 4: doing what anyway, Back to the Cowboys. Back to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: So dark Prescott didn't go to the Pro Bowl. See
Speaker 4: the Landmage the Pro Bow. Michael Parts went to the
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. Michael Partson out there playing the mad game
Speaker 4: and took a shot at David and Joko about Cleveland
Speaker 4: is Cleveland, joker?
Speaker 3: What skill the ski backett into Cleveland? Cleveland. We're both
Speaker 3: sitting here together.
Speaker 1: Right m hm. Oh So they was right there and
Speaker 1: they was right next liking.
Speaker 3: A little shot in him something basically trying to put
Speaker 3: down Cleveland. Oh man, just Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Disrespectful, disrespectful, You and I both sitting right here. Cleveland
Speaker 1: had Flacco as a quarterback. Nature about I would say
Speaker 1: the season was more successful than I.
Speaker 3: Respect He should have said respectfully that fan.
Speaker 4: Base is not mad at them. I can tell you
Speaker 4: that somebody who worked up there. They're not mad at
Speaker 4: the Browns right now. They're looking at their head coach
Speaker 4: and they're they're saying, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: That was a successful sea. Their trajectory is going upward.
Speaker 3: They feel good here.
Speaker 4: Fan bases hot man basis hot people trying to get
Speaker 4: off the Hope of people are mad.
Speaker 3: Even Stephen Jones mint, we got to bring we gotta
Speaker 3: get we got it. We got to win him back.
Speaker 6: So rebrand the hoping new packaging. So Jerry said, we
Speaker 6: gotta get your back. You going it's a heckun.
Speaker 1: He's he's reeling you in.
Speaker 3: He said the Senior Bowl, they're.
Speaker 1: Going all in. Who you really that that's what Jerry
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the season. Next season, okay,
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna be on the Hope in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. I ain't say that, man. He
Speaker 1: that I had a couple of thinking about it, and
Speaker 1: I'm not that's all. It took all in. Every time.
Speaker 4: Michael Parson said the Cowboy, he says he's glad to
Speaker 4: hear that they're gonna go all because he said they
Speaker 4: haven't done in the last few years.
Speaker 3: Even though he did say that they had what they
Speaker 3: needed to go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: But apparently now he's now he's learning, he's learning to saying, Okay,
Speaker 4: they didn't go all in and get the pieces.
Speaker 1: They need, so running because because when Cooks first got
Speaker 1: here and Stephan Gilmore first got here, people was like,
Speaker 1: well the Cowboys do what they usually do. But oh wait,
Speaker 1: we went and got a former defensive Player of the year,
Speaker 1: We got Brandon some thousand yard god all over the place,
Speaker 1: and now we don't. Now we even gonna get the
Speaker 1: guy hanging like what we what are we doing? You paid,
Speaker 1: you paid three safeties, you guarantee one for the whole
Speaker 1: you're paying to so so your assumption is you got
Speaker 1: all the pieces that you needed that or is it?
Speaker 1: Or is it you're not naive enough to think that
Speaker 1: Tony Polard could be your running back for any time. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe maybe that's the all in. Maybe
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a bona fide running back. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: that's all in that would have made a difference in
Speaker 1: this season. I mean, it's just come on, it's just thought. Linebacker.
Speaker 1: Maybe you go get a linebacker that is a bonafide
Speaker 1: true linebacker not a tweiner.
Speaker 3: Is that what you need to see? What do you
Speaker 3: need to see for it to be all in for you?
Speaker 3: What do you need to see from Jerry?
Speaker 1: What do you need?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 1: Really, I think it's just a sign of making that
Speaker 1: big splashing free agency to show that you're going on
Speaker 1: I don't know specifically which like who's out there or
Speaker 1: you're gonna get but you know where you have issues
Speaker 1: that you know that your running game wasn't where it
Speaker 1: needs to be at, and you know that your defensive
Speaker 1: line in the trenches hasn't been where it needs to
Speaker 1: be at for the last few years. So if you
Speaker 1: really want to say you're gonna make a big splash,
Speaker 1: one of those one of those. You got some running
Speaker 1: backs out there. I don't even know who we can name.
Speaker 1: We got running backs out there. I don't know who's
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, but there are opportunities for you
Speaker 1: to go out there and say, you know what, this
Speaker 1: is a difference maker at that position, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: go all in and make sure that we get him
Speaker 1: on our roster.
Speaker 4: From a running back perspective. Now, I won't name them,
Speaker 4: but at the same get in trouble. But we saw
Speaker 4: last year with the one year franchise deals, there were
Speaker 4: several running backs on these one year franchise deals that
Speaker 4: I suspect their teams are not going to bring them back.
Speaker 4: They darn show on, go franchise and pay them twenty
Speaker 4: percent more off the ten meal from last year. There
Speaker 4: will be available free free agents, guys who are gonna
Speaker 4: be free agents. But at the same time too, you
Speaker 4: look at Detroit. Detroit went into the draft criticized it,
Speaker 4: but Gibbs really good, absolutely good football.
Speaker 3: So you can go get a young.
Speaker 4: Rookie and have that rookie be an impactful player. So
Speaker 4: there's different ways to make that running back game work.
Speaker 3: And that we saw.
Speaker 4: They took gives in Detroit and then they went got
Speaker 4: Montgomery who the bars let go boy, that tandem.
Speaker 1: Was they got him. They got gives in the first
Speaker 1: though didn't yes, So that's you know, that's when you're
Speaker 1: trying to decide where, like who you gonna get, Like
Speaker 1: it's a difference between the first round running back of
Speaker 1: what we've seen and Ezekiel Ellet guys like that and
Speaker 1: sain Kwon Barkley and then the guys that you get
Speaker 1: later in the draft. I think Pacheco is an outlier.
Speaker 1: But Pacheco is a.
Speaker 3: Running like he was really the ball. He runs the ball.
Speaker 1: He's not that he's not the Christian McCaffrey guy where
Speaker 1: he's that dynamic. When he gets the ball, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that dude run hard. But as far as him being
Speaker 1: as diverse and adaptable as some of those other guys,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the same. But I think that's
Speaker 1: difference between the first round guy and then the guys
Speaker 1: that are later on in the draft. And I think
Speaker 1: that theory holds up with certain players at a certain time.
Speaker 1: But it's not a one size fits all. You get
Speaker 1: a drun bland in the lake. I mean as far
Speaker 1: as that the talent disparity as far as rounds is concerned.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys can't turn down nothing, but they call it.
Speaker 1: Everything is on the table and you have to fix
Speaker 1: certain positions and the running back room is one of them.
Speaker 1: When I was talking about setting the expectation for next year,
Speaker 1: I think this draft not to knock on anybody, but
Speaker 1: I think it was a disappointment because you didn't need
Speaker 1: you didn't get guys that hit the ground running. And
Speaker 1: if you look around the NFL teams are drafting guys
Speaker 1: that you could put the work immediately. Guys ended up
Speaker 1: being projects are playing twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: We didn't need that.
Speaker 1: We really was a team built on that number one
Speaker 1: guy needing to put in have some some substantial production.
Speaker 3: The picts right there, Yeah, they were not Detroit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to break up this pain again,
Speaker 1: but it's there. It's read it. I mean, you got Screonmaker,
Speaker 1: you two guys out of Michigan, Mazzi Smith, Uh come on, man,
Speaker 1: her two picks really had no impact on this.
Speaker 3: Entire the defensive end.
Speaker 1: I mean he never even found the field. Uh so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the best thing we got out
Speaker 1: of it was a kicker from Plano and he was under.
Speaker 4: Your third rider May and overshown who looked who had flash?
Speaker 4: But he got hurt there, so you know, one, two, three,
Speaker 4: and then he said, foko, that's four right, fourth.
Speaker 3: I said, your first four.
Speaker 1: Guys, you're like, awesome, Richard. You didn't see him spot
Speaker 1: duty here. Really, there was no production there. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tyrant came on again. This is just That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about about. The expectations, Eric Scott, guys like that.
Speaker 1: Just again, you didn't get a lot of production. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The expectation has to be there, and
Speaker 1: you have to be hopeful that. Look, you got to
Speaker 1: put a draft together. That young cat that you're talking
Speaker 1: about in the first second round running back, we need
Speaker 1: that dude.
Speaker 6: And well, to me, I think, you know, outside of
Speaker 6: the splash guys that you can bring in, and this
Speaker 6: is a hard thing to do, but I feel like
Speaker 6: management or upper.
Speaker 3: Top shit, you know, hold these guys accountable instead.
Speaker 1: Of hyping them up and all season.
Speaker 3: Hey we love our guys, we love this guy.
Speaker 6: And I know it's a hard thing to do with
Speaker 6: contracts and you know, cap and all that stuff, but
Speaker 6: hold them accountable. Say hey, we don't get the job done.
Speaker 6: We revamping this whole thing. You know, so so many
Speaker 6: guys in this locker room. They're going out there saying
Speaker 6: we lose that, we lose. I'm still I'm still getting
Speaker 6: this bad. I'm still gonna be here regardless. It's a
Speaker 6: tough thing to do, but you gotta hold these guys
Speaker 6: accountable in thinking about bringing all these outside pieces, think
Speaker 6: about making sure these guys know what their responsibility is
Speaker 6: going into the game and going into the season, Like,
Speaker 6: if you don't get the job done, you're not guaranteed to.
Speaker 1: Come back here next year.
Speaker 6: And I understand that's a hard thing to do with
Speaker 6: guarantee money and capping all that, but there's gotta be
Speaker 6: some accountability with.
Speaker 3: The guys here.
Speaker 1: They understand, like this is not good being you know,
Speaker 1: a first or getting on the internet first. Back to
Speaker 1: my point at the beginning of the show, Okay, new
Speaker 1: voice to come in here. Hey man, it's a new
Speaker 1: sheriff in town, all right, and this is how we're
Speaker 1: gonna make this stuff work. I got one year, so
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I don't mind getting on y'all to
Speaker 1: let y'all know that a this ain't gonna fly. All right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure we got our stuff. Now.
Speaker 3: That is the Zimmer type of social media fan base.
Speaker 4: It's saying right now they're putting the clips up of
Speaker 4: him and Cincinnati and getting after guys and saying that
Speaker 4: that's what's needed here.
Speaker 1: I've seen the safety said that it was a Harrison.
Speaker 1: What's what's the safety that Harris Smith was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a you know, not everybody's cup of tea. But
Speaker 1: he enjoyed playing for him because he gets the most
Speaker 1: out of you. But I mean, like I said, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you, when you go, when you, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna fire you. Man a year you I mean
Speaker 1: you here, you here on the one year thing. You
Speaker 1: already know. Hey man, this is it.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So Eric being to me, went to Washington, Thank you,
Speaker 3: he said. And then what the players do? What the
Speaker 3: head coach? Yeah, that's kind of dog couple people.
Speaker 1: No, hold one. See that's the different I'm not talking about. Dude,
Speaker 1: get out there and cuts out folks. We said, hold accountable.
Speaker 1: But which to do you do that?
Speaker 3: Throw bombs out there too?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think some players can respect that. I
Speaker 1: think you still treat them like men. You don't go
Speaker 1: out there and treat them like they're not men. Right,
Speaker 1: You got to still got show them that type of.
Speaker 4: Nobody in care the city said that eb didn't didn't
Speaker 4: treat them like man. It was just it just seemed
Speaker 4: to me as though homeboys sit up here, tell some
Speaker 4: folks truth. And yeah he used some colorful language and people's.
Speaker 1: All see now. I found it a little weird and crazy.
Speaker 1: That you over here defending the Washington Commanders and know
Speaker 1: and knowing what that No, no, I'm saying and knowing that,
Speaker 1: knowing what their players have been through and what they've
Speaker 1: been looking at and the state of their organization, and
Speaker 1: expect them to go listen to somebody to come in
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, we're gonna win this year. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna win if you do it like this. This
Speaker 1: guy's good. I'm saying, that's not. That's not the players
Speaker 1: that we got here.
Speaker 3: So so comparing is bringing a truth teller?
Speaker 4: Are people ready to accept the truth, because there's a
Speaker 4: lot of folks who say, I want you to tell
Speaker 4: me the truth, but you know, you must be able
Speaker 4: to take it, tell it and live it and around
Speaker 4: here and you just mentioned it, man, this is an
Speaker 4: entitlement factor. Asked hate me about that. He kind of
Speaker 4: went up to the ends to say yeah, because he
Speaker 4: was a media scrub. But he laughed and then he
Speaker 4: gave us his little answer. But there is a there
Speaker 4: is a problem right now with some of these.
Speaker 1: Dudes taking truth and y'all saying, hire somebody within to
Speaker 1: keep lying to them. So you want to change it
Speaker 1: or you don't want to change it.
Speaker 3: So you feel like, I don't know if you can,
Speaker 3: because if you can't, you can't, don't hire it.
Speaker 1: Don't hire guy.
Speaker 3: If I can, just go up top.
Speaker 1: If I don't know the work is all that I'm
Speaker 1: telling you from the desk that I'm sitting there right now. Look,
Speaker 1: I feel you, I feel you know. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that these guys are being lied to or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's three twelve and five seasons and you gotta fix
Speaker 1: this defense. You gotta fix the run game. I think
Speaker 1: we feel like for me, Trayvon Diz coming back is
Speaker 1: gonna be a big asset to this defense. Another year
Speaker 1: with Michael even at defensive end linebacker. We can argue
Speaker 1: all through the off season about it, but not today.
Speaker 1: All right, but defensive line wise, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get some help defensive line wise, and linebacker play is essential.
Speaker 1: This draft is very important, and having somebody that understands
Speaker 1: the inner workings of this defense is going to be
Speaker 1: very important. Not somebody that's making them entitled brats. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm That's not what I'm calling for.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be kicking myself again after going
Speaker 1: against my home in them, you know, for the third
Speaker 1: or fourth time. And I don't know why it happened,
Speaker 1: away it happened, but it just happened all the time.
Speaker 1: Just like the Patriots, you just be like, there's no
Speaker 1: reason they should be winning these games. And somehow you
Speaker 1: watch the team go out there who they playing against,
Speaker 1: and they are out of character, stupid penalties, dumb to
Speaker 1: take a turnover, stuff they haven't done all seasons. So
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Kansa City Chiefs because I'll be
Speaker 1: a food to pick against them. They don't have to,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm better. That's like that's been with the field,
Speaker 1: Ain't it like that?
Speaker 3: Against George I'm gonna I'm going.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahones in thirty to twenty seven, no overtime. So
Speaker 1: you're saying that Shanahan has he may do something dumb
Speaker 1: the players him to three. He will be a possibility.
Speaker 1: This day he's gonna find out who thought it really was.
Speaker 1: He's done it before, he may do it again. But
Speaker 1: this year, man, he's been coaching like a man that's
Speaker 1: possessed with not without making that decision again. I mean,
Speaker 1: the decisions he's making in season. Looks like the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers should pull it out, but they're not swag surfing.
Speaker 1: I'm going with is thats what it is. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: let me take something, let me tell you something. Now
Speaker 1: I've seen that you just I gotta I gotta say this.
Speaker 1: My daughter graduated from Howard University. And that was not
Speaker 1: That wasn't that wasn't it. That wasn't. They tried, they
Speaker 1: tried valuing effort, but but heck, but they gave my
Speaker 1: man Kelsey the tape of fade.
Speaker 3: He again takes this.
Speaker 1: But how many times have you gone to the barbershop
Speaker 1: and see those those phades numbers one through thirty like history.
Speaker 1: I never thought I see the imny time one through
Speaker 1: thirty phase. It's thirty ways to get a phade. The
Speaker 1: haircut is taking over the taking over the hold on
Speaker 1: you ever been to the Earth community got waves on
Speaker 1: top of that. Now he put ways that.
Speaker 3: The figure out, figure out.
Speaker 4: This is why diversity in your staff, so somebody can
Speaker 4: inform you and tell you this ain't.
Speaker 1: Probably the oldest look man, you cauld ask Alexa she
Speaker 1: to tell you. I mean, they didn't have to look
Speaker 1: far for that. They have to know. There's no way
Speaker 1: they didn't know. There's no possible way. It is because
Speaker 1: I just you.
Speaker 3: Don't have.
Speaker 1: Is a diversity of people to someone to say they
Speaker 1: from your somebody thought that that Kelsey was the inventor
Speaker 1: of the fade.
Speaker 4: Once again crazy. The New York Times put it out,
Speaker 4: laying people off left and right. But this is this
Speaker 4: is what happens when you do not have people who
Speaker 4: you can talk to the diverse thought to say, Na,
Speaker 4: you may not want to do that, or this isn't incorrect.
Speaker 3: If you don't mean I live, I live, what're you
Speaker 3: gonna do?
Speaker 13: Well?
Speaker 1: You need to go here and this is this is
Speaker 1: it that is ridiculous. If Kelsey take a commercial getting
Speaker 1: the tape of Faith on, be upset. Man, I'm dumb.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Jack carlov Is barbering.
Speaker 1: Straight. What's your score here for Kansas City, Sir, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let's say it's gonna be hoigh scoring. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go thirty four twenty four something another beat that? All right?
Speaker 3: Church?
Speaker 1: What you give me the nine US? Man, give me
Speaker 1: a nine US. It's because we all went for Kansas
Speaker 1: City that you did that. You was on your way,
Speaker 1: bro thirty five twenty four about your way. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna ain't gonna let Kelsey go crazy and ain't gonna.
Speaker 3: Let it happen.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting here, man. I've just seen San
Speaker 4: Francisco the last two games they've played.
Speaker 1: The other head coaches.
Speaker 4: Decided to lose these games and these ship act like
Speaker 4: field goals are a bad thing. Andy Reid won't do
Speaker 4: that because he got a good way in Harrison Truck.
Speaker 4: So in Baltimore, though he ran the ball eight times,
Speaker 4: like what you what you?
Speaker 3: We'll see We'll see Danny enjoy ski trip.
Speaker 1: Yeah y'all, it's his birthday trip. Yeah, me say birthday trip.
Speaker 1: So I'm say his birthday trip.
Speaker 3: I'll be shying Conna like.
Speaker 1: How you coming down on the man, like he ain't
Speaker 1: getting that bad. You ain't getting that back.
Speaker 3: You like twenty mill and it be like it's all
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