WEBVTT - Player’s Lounge: Facing the Truth? 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:03.400 The following. 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:05.520 He is a production of Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:06.960 Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:10.039 Cowboys. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:17.079 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:22.600 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:27.240 Danny McCrae, heckma Harrison, and new He scrugs. 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.360 Hey, here we are the off season. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.760 Edition of the Players. We have time for you to 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:39.279 the crew. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.920 Danny McCrae, Heck Maharrison, Barry Church, I've knew, he scrugs, 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.840 and boy, things have changed since we last sat here 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:47.920 at the table. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:49.760 Have a notice about things. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.160 Dan Quinn, It took two years longer than I thought, 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.080 but Dan Quinn is now out of here. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.560 He is the head coach of the Washington Command. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.200 No, and then we all think it was gonna be 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:08.039 the Seahouse. Everybody, everybody, Mama thought he was going to Seattle. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.080 There was a whole bunch of connections to people thought. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.319 I mean the people in Washington. My folks were swearing 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:13.960 up and down it was gonna be Ben Johnson the 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.959 Lions OC and didn't happen. So they had me on 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.680 the NBC Washington basically trying to calm the natives down because. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.400 They mad about Dan Quinn up there, they sat, they 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.800 are salty about like that man, we want him. He's retread. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.800 I mean they there's a truckload of fans up there 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:32.640 disappointed to day. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.440 They call it retread. Yes, wow, are you kidding me? Wow? 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.920 So be checking him? Are the two coaches out there 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.759 who were actually looking for a job they had been 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:43.959 going to a Super Bowl? 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:44.479 Yes? 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:45.920 Ain't they mad about that? 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:46.360 Yes? 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.320 Yeah, franchise that ain't did nothing in years. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:50.639 That's wild, that's wild. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.680 And so the other prevailing thought disappointment out there is 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.680 that their new GM Adam Peters like you couldn't get 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.360 who you wanted, and that they said Ben Johnson was 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.360 asking fifteen million. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.920 They want to pay the price. And then the. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.960 DC fan base is saying, well, this guy is basically 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:06.720 Ron Ravera. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:10.560 That is what So I said. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.040 I did it a little thing for NBC Washington, and 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.400 it was talking about DQ and and one of the 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.200 things I said is you have to get out of 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.600 your mind. Twenty eight to three. Now, that's what you 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.080 have to get out of your mind. Because I was 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.880 there too when they brought him in right here. I'm like, 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.400 come on, man, this is the twenty three guy and 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.160 then and then you know, things went downhill in Atlanta. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.639 We saw a totally different person and where fan bases 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.919 and people in general can forget. We are never who 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.280 we are on our worst day. We're never that right true. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.720 Take it for me. Take it from me, man, you 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:54.000 don't miss a shott. That's how you're doing. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:57.000 Listening. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:02.800 So for DQ and he's done here. This guy people, 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.520 he's predictable, he's this, he's at dan Quinn was nothing 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.240 but good here? 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:08.840 Nothing? 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.359 What about that forty Green Bay put on you in 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.840 the playoffs that bad day? 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:20.440 But it wasn't just deep you And I said, anybody 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.600 on that D line making all Pro at the D 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.880 tackle spot. If you're gon beat the Cowboys, we can 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.440 run on them. It's been a problem for a few 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.280 years now. Dan Quinn no control money. They try to 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.560 draft somebody. This dude decided to go on the slim fast. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:43.520 That's crazy, late Vander, I said, Man, this defense was 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.960 Scott's taped together by the Indy over did a really 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:48.040 good job, I said. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:49.960 And I talked about Tyrone. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.560 Blandarn Bland, I said, dron Bland leads the league in 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.840 picks two years ago before that you had Digs lead 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:56.160 the league. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.400 Pick anybody want to check what this defense was and 0:03:58.480 --> 0:03:59.000 I might know it. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.520 I'm like, man, folks in DC and like you've got 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.800 a good coach, and go look at everybody he hired 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:05.400 in Atlanta. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:06.360 You see that. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.800 Atlanta staff, think you That's my thing about a twenty 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.600 eight to three thing where everybody's like, okay, they got 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.600 an issue with that. The coaching staff that was there, 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.360 them dudes is out there too, all right, how we 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.640 ain killing more? It is killing more that Shanny was 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.160 the offensive coordinator out there. Okay. So if Sanahan was 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.320 going to Washington would be saying the same thing. But 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.400 essentially twenty eight to three, you're looking at your office coordinator, say, man, 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.920 all we have to do is hold on. All we 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.119 got to do is hold on you out here getting 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.440 stripsack fumbled, you know what I'm saying for touchdowns all 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.960 this other type of stuff. So when you look at 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:42.080 that game organization, like the Cowboys, who hasn't gone to 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.120 the Super Bowl, NFC championship is so long, and you 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.920 over it, hate on the duke. Washington ain't done nothing 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:52.080 since RG three numbers there and they overill complain about that. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:53.120 I don't understand. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.760 Shanahand lost ten point leader Super Bowl to thet. You 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.400 can't see the chief talking. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:01.400 About got to say this, man, I don't think that 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.039 when the decision came down, I wasn't surprised. I don't 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.599 think any of us was surprised. You've been talking about 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.360 DQ leaving for two years now, so I think the 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.400 organization has had plenty of runway to make a decision 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.560 on who is going to succeed him as the defensive 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.480 coordinator for the Commanders. They get a guy that falls 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.880 in their lap, that has approven commodity in the NFL. 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.039 So he's and you hear the way that the players 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.200 talked about him while he was leaving, what Michael said 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.080 about him, what everybody's ever been coached about him says 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.479 about him. And now his staff that he's putting together, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.840 Joe Waddes, DC, Cliff Kingsbury. Now O see, I mean 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.600 things are looking up from in Washington, when for so 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:44.039 long they had no hope anyway. So look like I said, 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.320 I wasn't surprised. I wasn't when he took the job. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:47.880 I was. I really thought he was going to be 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.320 in Seattle, So I mean going to the Commanders, I'm 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.400 not I'm not really indifferent about it. The one thing 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.440 that I'm waiting on is where they come draft, because 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.760 if they get Caleb Williams, I think that's the thing 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.880 that really makes him in that position even more interesting 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.000 because we know him as a defensive coordinator, but now 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.680 he's going to have a top quarterback in his hands 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.680 and how's he going to work that? So just in 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.760 a football sense, but d q's got to get his 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.440 flowers for what he did here. All that talk twenty 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.440 eight three whatever, man, that's what else, that's nonsense. They 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.400 got a really good coach and I appreciate what he 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:21.159 did im with. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:21.640 Y'all on now. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.000 I think Washington got an extremely solid higher And when 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.080 you're talking about Dan Quinn, not only the guy on 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.120 the football field, but what he's able to do in 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:29.120 the culture in the locker room. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:30.720 You know what he was able to do here turning 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.680 this thing around defensively. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:33.880 And Mike McCarthy has a lot of credit to that 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.560 as well, But dan quit on the defensive side of 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.480 the ball, had those guys flying. You know, they're playing 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.040 like their heroes on fire. They woul run through a 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.160 brick wall for their coach, and that's what you love 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.040 to see. So to me, he's a ultimate players coaching 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.440 those guys in Washington. They should open, you know, open 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:47.599 their arms to him. So I think it was an 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.640 extremely good higher And you make a great point when 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.840 you talk about that number two pick that they got 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.960 right now, because I believe Washington they got pieces around. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.800 I mean, they're not just a scrub team out there. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.400 I think there's one quarterback away from kind of being 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.120 competitive saying that they're gonna, you know, go to the 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.320 super Bowl anything like that, but being competitive. I think 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.280 they're one quarterback away. They got the pieces offensively, and 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.160 we know what dan Quinn could bring to a defense. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.120 You got those Bama boys on the inside. You know, 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:11.720 they need some help in the secondary, in the on 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.280 the second level. But that's something I believe dan Quinn 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.120 can fix. We saw here when he came into Dallas 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.320 that Nolan defense was god offing. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:20.640 They had what I think. 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.520 Eleven draft picks that that year, and they used a 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.880 lot of them on defense and pretty much restructured that 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.640 entire defense and turned it all around to where the 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.280 defense was the strength of his team for almost two years, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.920 you know, going into the back half of this year. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.040 So to me, I think it's an extremely good hire 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.800 for Washington and we'll see what they do. 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.600 Because if you look at the OC they hired, was 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.840 it at Cliff Kingsbury. Yes, worked with Caleb Williams over 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.920 there at the USC, so they got a connection going there. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.520 So to me, they're going in the right direction. And 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.560 I don't see why. You know, the Washington fan basis 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:49.360 is upset about this. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.320 You finally got you know, he sent Dan Quinn packing 0:07:53.400 --> 0:08:04.520 about two weeks ago than you all, So who else 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:05.080 you gonna take? 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:05.360 Witty? 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:13.520 So take it out to the interesting party man taking 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.680 it out with you already come here anyway, he might 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:18.559 have his own guys. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:25.040 Therein lies that next domino effect of who becomes the 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.840 d C. So the interviews started today at nine o'clock. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.360 A dirty the defensive line coach who DQ worked within 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.079 the past or he's going to be interview. Ron Rivera 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.800 is supposed to get an interview, former Washington head coach, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.400 and then Mike zimmer A, former Viking's head coach and 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.040 former defensive coordinator. Here these are the people right now 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:48.360 that are scheduled that we've heard about when we when 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.240 Dan Quinn got hired. The conversation we had on the show, 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:52.880 I believe it was before you got here. Heckman was 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.320 if you bring in the DC, you need to let 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.240 him bring in his guys, the people who understand what 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.160 it is he wants dirty right there on the D line. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.840 Then you had Joe Witt in the back. These are 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.240 guys that DQ knew, and the DQ also worked with 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.760 D Line as well, and did George Edwards, and DQ 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.640 had a really good thing going. He bringing someone else? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:20.080 Do you help him bring in his own guys? Because 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.800 these coaches are all on one year deals. I mean 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.520 to me, Joe went played it perfectly. He went up 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.400 there with DQ. You got more years. You're here on 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.480 a one year deal. You don't know up there? 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:32.840 You good. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:34.839 He's gonna let you call the D the way you 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:36.720 want to. And so you're strange. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:41.160 So but understand, Al Harris can't just go from here 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.240 to Washington. It's only if you get a promotion. So 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.559 with got a promotion, you could leave. So you just 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:52.240 can't dirty, just can't say right, they got contracts, got contracts, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.240 and so that's gonna be very interesting on who. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:56.400 They decide to hire. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.280 And I'll tell you this, Heck, I'm surprised they don't 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.000 have more of a ready to go well. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.800 I mean, I really think a masterclass should be taught 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.480 in Jerry Jones' decision not to sign Mike McCarthy to 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.520 an extension on his coaching deal, to make him coach 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.559 a one year deal. That's the one thing that's tying 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.400 this whole thing up because I think Joe Witt had 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.319 to make a decision based on that, and I think 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.719 other coaches will make a decision based off of that. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.559 If you're on the outside of the Cowboys organization, you know, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.400 if you come here, you're coming on a one year deal, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.719 and if you have all the variables that come with that, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.920 ie family, the OG. I guess whatever it is, do 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.480 you go somewhere for one year and not have the 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.760 security that you said how Joe Witten positioned himself perfectly 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.160 for a five year deal going with DQ. Look, I 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.520 think the sensible thing to do is that the defensive 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:42.880 coordinator is already on your staff. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:44.640 I think you go to the guy that you have 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:45.200 in house. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.719 Okay, I believe it's my fault it's my endorsement that 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.640 I'm saying Al Harris should be that guy, because I 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.439 think here is what you have and Dan Quinn as 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.000 a players coach, a guy that's as far as the 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.280 players are concerned, gonna have your respect off the top. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.640 And you know that he's a guy that understands defense, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.800 so the only way to maneuver. And he's a Mike 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.640 McCarthy guy as well, so that takes the whole equation 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:11.040 out of it. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.760 You don't have to go with a guy on the outside. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.959 And I'm sure they're interviewing all these guys, but that's 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.680 where my recommendation, and I'm with you. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.360 On that, to promote somebody within house, because now if 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.600 you bring somebody else from the outside, like you said, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.480 they're gonna have to bring their own guys. And we've 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.280 been there where guys kind of stayed in that new 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.760 DC came in and the guys that were a part 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.480 of the old regime kind of have that, you know, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.920 belief in this system. And that guy's bringing my system. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.320 Y'all gotta you gotta teach them this way. You got 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.320 to teach them that way, and they butt hands. I mean, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.200 we've seen it time and time again they butt heads 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.280 in the secondary where it's like, no, we want to 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:41.800 teach them this way. We want to teach cover three 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.199 this way, and our guy Drome Henderson was like, no, 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:45.200 we want to go this way. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.000 This is how this team. 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.800 I've been with these guys for different and you butt 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.439 hands that way and that, and that's how communication eras 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.240 start and that's how you get busted in the secondary 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:54.679 and busting the defensive overall. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.199 So if you bringing a new guy, they're gonna have 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:58.920 to clean house. I mean they gonna have to. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.880 So I'm with it as far as bringing somebody from 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.559 within the organization that's already there, already knows these players, 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.520 already knows how they like to play, the defenses and 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.640 all that good stuff, so we'll see how they go. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.760 I'm not on the same page as y'all. Like I 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.360 believe in dan Quinn his ability to call the players 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.319 at the right time and then motivate the guys in 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.920 a certain way. And I even though you still have 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.400 the same system, you do not have the dan Quinn 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.079 to make that system go. So I think, to me, 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.320 it's different. You are interviewing guys who if you're interviewing them, 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.439 you assume that they understand the situation as well, and 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.760 you also know that they have their guys who they're 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.000 probably contacted already saying, hey man, you got your bags 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:39.560 packed and you're ready to go, because if I get 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.800 this job, you're coming with me. This is the situation, 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.400 all right. We already know what the Mike McCarter situation is. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.280 He has one year left on his deal. But we're 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.320 going here for X reason, all right, and if it works, 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:50.959 it works. If it doesn't, it's done, it doesn't, and 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.720 you okay, And then these coaches take these interviews. If 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.920 you got a guy who's going to come in understanding 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.559 that and it's able to bring in something new, not 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.800 trying to do the same thing with a different person 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.480 on somebody else's scheme, than I would go in that direction. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.679 Like I just I don't know how confident I am 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.480 one because, like you said, at the end of the year, 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.880 we were sitting there saying, I don't know, right, he 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.040 still said, we've been having trouble in the run game 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:17.920 for years. We haven't been able to get that figured out, 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.400 even with Dan Quinn here. So I just don't think 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.480 doing the same thing with a different person is going 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.520 to equal success in the way that the all in 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.320 success that you're saying that you're trying to go get. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.320 Let me just all I'm saying is the time, proof 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.720 and consistency is not with Al Harris as a play 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.560 caller and a defensive coordinator. I think he's a guy 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.559 that understands how you use your key pieces that you 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.880 have right now. A new coach, he's not going to 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.520 bring in a three four because you don't have the 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.920 personnel for it. And that's a complete overhaul. Like you 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.120 just said, playing cover three, although it's the same, certain 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.400 guys like to call it different. The success that you're 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.400 having right now with your cornerback room with the run 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.160 Bland guys like that Trayvon Diggs, You're having that success 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:59.080 because one you have a coordinator or a cornerbacks coach 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.360 that really speaks directly to these guys, these guys' language, 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.000 even Michael Parson's, how you use him, And don't forget 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.280 that you have a piece in Michael Parsons that you 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.600 still have to specialize your defense around. Let's not forget 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.640 that any other defensive coordinator when he comes in here, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.760 the first piece he wants to touch is Michael Parsons? 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.040 How do you use number eleven? I just want to 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.360 sit down with Al Harris and see how what's his scheme, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:21.320 What's he gonna do. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.480 Here's the issue so far, I'm talking about Al Harris. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.480 He's not listed absolutely only the candidate list right now. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.479 Maybe he will be, but right now we're talking about something. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:39.720 That isn't possibility. Yeah, like why you know they. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.840 See We're seeing something they're not seeing, and that becomes 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.000 that conversation. You guys all do this when you talk 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.160 to your cowboy fans and they ask you questions, you 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.240 try to talk to him. I can talk to you 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.000 in terms of what they're doing or what you want 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.840 me to think or or I'm thinking, because just because 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.360 I think that way, it don't matter the way. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.520 It's about what I get and I'm with you. Al Harris, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.120 I think is a pretty dog on good dude. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.560 But at the same time, man, I I look at 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.360 the Rams. They just promoted Shula, Shula's grandson to be 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:15.080 the DC. They keep promoting guys, you know, from from 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:20.920 from within what they're doing and younger people. When when 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.120 you start to see Zimmer and rivera, I start to say, well, 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:25.920 this is gonna be some fresh ideas, or are we 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:27.080 gonna look at some younger people. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.840 We're just gonna keep on finding people who. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.040 Used to do want to super Bowl? Who was the 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:32.720 defense cordinator? 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.520 It was Rahee Morris. And and and I'll say this 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:36.200 about Raheem. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:41.160 I always thought that Raheem Morris was a guy who 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:42.240 got a job young. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.760 It was a tough situation. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.000 Who was sitting here at a spot where he was 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.880 good at but was more was you know, where, not 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.880 where he needed to be. I've always thought Raheem Morris 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.160 was head coach and a guy worthy of a second dag. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.800 He finally got it. But Brandon Staley was the defensive 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.840 coordinator for the Rams before that. And sorry. 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.160 But but you know, for some. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:13.560 Crazy reason, Raheem Warris got lost more text where normally 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.080 that doesn't happen to people who are talented and young 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.360 and good, but it happened to him. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.000 Luckily he got out of it. But here's McVeigh, you know, 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:22.560 just like he did with the coach the Bengals. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.960 You know that guy had you know, he was his 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.760 old seven know he was calling the plays and Zac 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.000 Taylor ended up going from there. I mean several coaches 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.640 off mcday's tree that were younger, younger people that he 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.480 gave shots to were able to get out of there. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.880 So if you're the Cowboys at some point in time, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:37.920 do you decide. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.840 To do that? I don't know. I just heard you 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.280 say fresh ideas, and I don't think promoting from inside 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:44.960 trying to keep the same voice, same system as a 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.480 fresh idea. I just I just don't feel that way 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.920 when you think about, Okay, the wars that we had 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.800 on defense and how you are going to change those 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.120 warts on defense, because we know we're not going to 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.960 go any further if we are going into another year 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.480 of not being able to stop the run. We know 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.560 what pieces we have on the outside with On Diggs, 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.760 darn Blain, we know we have Michael Parsons in there. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.680 But as far as you making the correct changes, which 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.760 we've tried. We drafted defensive line, they bridgeway, We got 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.080 them out of here in the ear and we now 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.639 we got hangers. I remember, uh no, no, who's the 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.760 no no, no, no, Remember Nolan was here. They got 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.440 him out of here real quick, big boy about Terry, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.080 when you when you think about it, like how Dad 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.320 Quinn wasn't even here that, but you're just thinking about, okay, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.880 new ideas and that it went from Don Terry Poe 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.040 to Dan Quinn coming in new ideas on the defensive 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:39.760 line and we still ain't found a way to get 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.879 it done. What do you have to do to figure 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.600 out a way to say, you know what, our defensive 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.440 line is going to be the strength of our team. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.440 But Danny, I think where I'm caught is that I 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.280 feel like next season you have to raise expectations for 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:51.800 your team. 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.439 They have to be they have to have some belief 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:55.280 in who you bring in. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.720 Whether I mean we were talking about the defensive coordinator 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.120