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Speaker 1: You just said it. KD is the best basketball scorer

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Speaker 1: of all time, most talented basketball player of all time.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen nothing like this. But I also had

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Speaker 1: to say, like, Steph is the reason.

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Speaker 2: For all of it.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't have Draymond who he is, if

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Speaker 1: you don't have Clayton who he is, if you don't

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Speaker 1: have Me who I am, none of it happens either.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Oh g'z A maker original brought

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Speaker 3: to you by DraftKings Man. We got a special guest.

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Speaker 3: I will say this, Dre before I give your accolades.

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Speaker 3: The two thousand and fifteen Finals MVP not a huge

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Speaker 3: fan of I'm gonna be honest with you because I

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Speaker 3: happen to be on that Cleveland Calst team that you

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Speaker 3: whooped their ass on.

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Speaker 2: Oh listen, they killing don't don't don't do d like that?

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Speaker 2: That that ship.

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Speaker 3: Over I know, but you won't, you know, but listen,

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Speaker 3: you can't some stuff you just can't let go, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: So the chest you the man wone always telling me

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Speaker 2: to let go the ship that I be helding on.

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Speaker 4: To you, right, you're right. Congratulations on in twenty.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen VP spoking, spoken like an agent.

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Speaker 4: Hey, four time NBA champ.

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Speaker 3: Gosh damn, they got some championships. Sitting in the chair over.

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Speaker 2: There, there were very few people that have more rings

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Speaker 2: than me on this motherfucker. I tell you that very

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Speaker 2: few people call this motherfucker have more rings to be

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Speaker 2: So I got about out today.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey a u d he got us be Togain

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Speaker 3: a two time gold medalist.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh shit.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm gonna tell you this, Chris Boss andre Igo

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Speaker 2: the dollar, I'm gonna get them take. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: him they flowers till the day I lead this motherfucker earth.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the young generation we.

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Speaker 5: The same a high school class.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think the young generation understand how good

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Speaker 2: you were. And I understand how good Chris Bosh was.

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Speaker 1: No, people don't have a clue how good Bosh.

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Speaker 2: Was because obviously you took a different role obviously when

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Speaker 2: you got to you know, go to state role player.

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Speaker 2: Chris took a different role when he came to US.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people understand how good individually basketball players

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Speaker 2: you guys were.

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Speaker 1: Now Bosh was like a six time All Star before

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Speaker 1: he got to Miami. Yes, people don't know that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, slept, slept, walked twenty and ten, Yeah, walked.

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Speaker 2: Bosh was different, easy, unstoppable man, unstoppable, slow, couldn't speed

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Speaker 2: him up, could get to his spots no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Could post could stretch face up.

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Speaker 4: Job.

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Speaker 2: If you don't go for the jab, he can shoot

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Speaker 2: the MIDI. If you go for the jab, he can

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Speaker 2: go buy you. I mean, he had it all.

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Speaker 1: And he was a great shot blocker too. People forget

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Speaker 1: that he had everything. But this your show, this your show.

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Speaker 1: Give we got to give you your credit too. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: when you're coming out of Arizona and you go to Philly,

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Speaker 1: what what are you thinking there? Are you thinking this

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Speaker 1: is his show? I'm just coming in to be a

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Speaker 1: level as we're building something for Ai. No, it was

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be in the NBA and I

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Speaker 1: generations are different, yes, where it was like I got

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Speaker 1: having that conversation with my agent. You know, we talk

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Speaker 1: like guys forget about we talk about the nil. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, like we all all along we've been saying

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Speaker 1: so I wasn't back then. It was the East Coast bias.

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Speaker 1: Everybody said, you know, y'all Florida boys, and so y'all

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Speaker 1: sec y'all own you know, prime time ESPN. You know,

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Speaker 1: So agents calling me like, hey, I want to represent you,

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Speaker 1: to happen where it did. I had a great draft process.

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Speaker 1: Everything's starting to work out. I'm working out with Tim Grover.

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Speaker 1: He was like, yo, you got a chance to have

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Speaker 1: a great career. Just keep working. So that's all I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm starting.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Rookie of the Year. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: these kids are thinking now, you know, like they'll fire

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Speaker 1: if they don't make the Rookie game. Right, Like, my

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Speaker 1: I think our first preseason game, I don't think I

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Speaker 1: It wasn't normal for rookie to start. So I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I was just locking people up. So I'm about to

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Speaker 5: But like I own, I'm not trying to mess up.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to play hard defense and

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Speaker 1: then listen to everything. Kevin Ali and Aaron mcke telly

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Speaker 1: like that was my mindset coming in, which is yeah, because.

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Speaker 5: They've been in the league one day.

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Speaker 1: I'm in practice this early in my career, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you go back and you think, like what makes me different?

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Speaker 1: But I think all of our minds work similarly, Like

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Speaker 1: when we would have conversations when we were playing together,

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Speaker 1: why is this dude in the league for so long?

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Speaker 1: And he ain't like super talented, Like he not a bucket,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he not high flying,

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Speaker 1: he not dunking on. People like Kevin Ali and Aaron

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Speaker 1: mckeeth been in the league for a decade, they got

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Speaker 1: do everything they did because I know I can jump

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Speaker 1: higher and I'm faster. But worst case there, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: play for ten years because I'm an I'm gonna act right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to the coach. I'm gonna be a

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't I'm gonna be the second guy Alan Iverson.

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Speaker 2: The kids at home probably don't even know those names,

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Speaker 2: Karen Oli and Aaron. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But what I will say obviously about that is the

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Speaker 2: lesson and everything you said because coming in and the

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Speaker 2: first round pick and number number nine, correct number nine,

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Speaker 2: the first round pick. It was about defense, it was

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Speaker 2: about rebounding, It was about soaking up game and learning

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Speaker 2: and putting in that work. And all your kids at home.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even play his first preseason game. So just

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Hey, you d I love

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Speaker 3: that because it's for all these young kids coming out.

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Speaker 4: What he's talking about is is so true? Is having awareness? Right?

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Speaker 4: How do I get on the floor.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And once you're on the floor, you build a

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Speaker 4: I tell you the truth, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like a lot of people want to hear stuff,

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Speaker 4: So I mean listen, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: Take this clip and short to your clients. Killer when

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Speaker 2: you get the little snotty nose pisstail. Last motherfucker's out

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Speaker 2: of college showing this right now, those pistails.

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Speaker 4: I ain't even recruiting those snotty those pistail kids. I

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Speaker 2: That's what I call them. ThunderCats man, them young boys

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: I still I say that to my kids. Get your

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Speaker 3: something because a I bubble Chuck was my favorites, right

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Speaker 3: and again, the longer people removes when he retires, the

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Speaker 4: So we talked about you and Chris By. That man

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Speaker 3: Man, Talk to me about some of that ship when

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Speaker 3: you saw in practice as a young kid or as

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Speaker 3: I don't think again he got his flowers. Is obviously

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Speaker 3: that dude like changed the game of basketball in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: in my eyes, talk about some of that stuff you saw.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he used the wrong word. You

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Speaker 1: said practice. I was just about to say practice. I'm joking.

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Speaker 1: I'm joking. One of the one of the more impressive

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Speaker 1: things I seen with him was actually in practice one

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Speaker 1: day and so it was he didn't have a good

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Speaker 1: I gotta get my rhythm. I'm gonna get some you know,

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Speaker 5: He moved and.

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Speaker 1: He didn't miss, and that's when I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: because we sometimes when you're young, you fall into like

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Speaker 1: or you know, people talk about the high volume attempts,

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Speaker 5: One thing about AI will say that people you.

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Speaker 2: We all laughed about it and it was an interesting clip,

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Speaker 2: had to end up out there Antoine Walker a lot

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Speaker 2: It was something in the casino. I think it was

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Speaker 2: wanted him to acknowledge me. I just I just wanted

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Speaker 2: might be there for thirty six hours. I don't know

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Speaker 1: AI get up. I hope AI get up and just.

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Speaker 2: Acknowledged me because he was big for our culture us

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Speaker 2: I had the braids. So he was just huged for

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, I have my little fan moment.

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Speaker 2: I don't have too many fan moments, but like you say,

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Speaker 2: So watch that man play a card game that I

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what about him, he was a He

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Speaker 5: Who you truly were. Like you know, the word.

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Speaker 1: Corny is thrown around a lot, right, and to me,

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Speaker 1: corny means you're trying to be something you're not. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: So you know me, I grew up studious, a little nerdy,

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Speaker 1: So I know, wear cardigan with a tie sometimes, you

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Speaker 1: You know, he was the he's a corny one, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but that's what that's what young

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Speaker 1: And then he's got a great sense of man, the

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Speaker 1: All right, I heard you said at the end of

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Speaker 1: the bench man, But like I think it's sweet wait

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Speaker 1: time going like damn your game. Everything he was saying

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Speaker 1: so interesting, you know, and what it does to you

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Speaker 1: Like it's different, man, and like all those jewels like

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Speaker 1: why we always tell the young guys, like, hey, make

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Speaker 1: if you ain't set up for your post career, it's

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Speaker 4: Late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right, like you said right there, man, Like

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Speaker 4: Even when ship's going.

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Speaker 4: That locker room, how fun that ship was.

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Speaker 2: That's the hardest part miss That's the only part I missed.

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Speaker 2: The locker room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: You can ride in the locker room. Fuck that running

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Speaker 2: I get the game everything. I have no regrets. I

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Speaker 2: ain't hold nothing to save nothing. I burnt the motherfucking

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Speaker 2: cannon from both hands. Ain't that left over here? Killer?

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Speaker 2: Now I'm an advisor and I like to show up,

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Speaker 2: make a couple of shots, and talk shit. That's about it.

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Speaker 2: Don't let me make a shot. Oh don't let me

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Speaker 2: I ain't get back on defense until I score. I

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Speaker 4: Because we played on that sound like my career.

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Speaker 2: No, Killer, you never got back on defense. But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you trying to chime in on this. Me

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Speaker 1: But we had to give up shots. So now it's like, no,

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Speaker 1: this's our get back and then we're gonna get him

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Speaker 2: Remember the games when Ai was out and you would

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Speaker 2: I'm listening. I'm finna let that motherfucker fly killing them

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Speaker 2: boys out. Shit, somebody got to make up these twenty shots.

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Speaker 2: They get shit. Six of these gonna definitely go here

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Speaker 2: Illinois growing up, you grew up in the hood. You

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Speaker 2: that choose differently and I respect that shit, Like, hey,

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Speaker 2: different choices because I could learn from somebody like that.

496
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: I could learn from you, and we'll get to that.

497
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Speaker 2: Because I had conversations with you in the bubble where

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Speaker 2: I was able to learn things from you. But what

499
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Speaker 2: made you want to be different to take your own

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Speaker 2: pathas a being like every motherfucker we see in the hood.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it was a few things. Well, first

502
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Speaker 1: of all, like strong grandmother. You know, it was like

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Speaker 1: the movie soul Fool. Yes, Like grandma was like the

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Speaker 1: pillar of the community, not just the family. Like, like

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Speaker 1: I didn't met so many people. My grandmother had a

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Speaker 1: foster home and so she adopted kids. You know, this

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Speaker 1: kid gonna be here for two months, this kid gonna

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Speaker 1: be here for seven years.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm seeing that.

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Speaker 1: You know, we in church every week, and so I

511
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Speaker 1: was around that like daily, you know. And then my

512
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Speaker 1: mom's was like super tough. Mom was six foot tall.

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Speaker 1: So I was scared of my mom until I was

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Speaker 1: like seventeen eighteen because she was taller than me. And

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Speaker 1: I didn't grow until my grossberg was fifteen years old.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, I seen.

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Speaker 1: My mom like whoop somebody like no in real life,

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Speaker 1: shout out to mobs, but my mom.

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Speaker 5: But my mom's had like a real job.

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Speaker 1: She worked for the Housing Authority, which was the project

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Speaker 1: so like she had to take calls do contract administrating, like,

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Speaker 1: so she had those two voices. There was a voice

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Speaker 1: at home that scared you to death, and then there

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Speaker 1: was the other voice with the teachers, like, yo, who

525
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Speaker 1: is this lady? Like, man, I don't really know you, right,

526
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Speaker 1: but moms is. Moms was on some don't go outside

527
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Speaker 1: with that basketball into your homework done, Like my mom

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Speaker 1: was on the early like, yo, you're gonna you're not

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Speaker 1: living in this city when you're an a dope, like

530
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Speaker 1: you got to get out, like she understood that. And

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Speaker 1: so and then I'm the second son. And and my

532
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Speaker 1: brother and I had a really interesting relationship because we

533
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Speaker 1: weren't the tightest, but he did see something in me.

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Speaker 1: So my brother go out and do something goofy, like

535
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Speaker 1: he went in the streets, but he was just on

536
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Speaker 1: goofy time. But then he'll go out and be like, no,

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Speaker 1: you can't come with me, like, nah, you're not getting

538
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Speaker 1: in trouble. You get straight age. And and I was

539
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Speaker 1: super competitive, you know. I spoke about this in the bubble,

540
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: and I spoke about this in my book where I

541
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: was in like advanced placement classes. Yes, and then the

542
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Speaker 1: first time I walked into a class that teacher was like,

543
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Speaker 1: are you in the right place? And I'm like, yeah,

544
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Speaker 1: I'm in the right place. She was like, I don't

545
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Speaker 1: think let me see your schedule. I don't think you're

546
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Speaker 1: in the right place, because she just see me with

547
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Speaker 1: the dudes from the hood who I'm on a bus

548
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Speaker 1: stop with. And so I identified that really early. And

549
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Speaker 1: I had this really super competitive nature, like I'm just competitive,

550
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Speaker 1: and so like, who gonna get done reading this book first?

551
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Speaker 1: Whos gonna get done with their multiplications first? Like that

552
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Speaker 1: was just I'm just I just want to win, Like

553
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Speaker 1: I was a super sore loser. But I think that

554
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Speaker 1: kind of played into what I was doing in the classroom.

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Speaker 1: And so I just had the foundation of like I

556
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Speaker 1: read sports illustrators for kids, you know the Bulls. Being

557
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558
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Speaker 1: You know, Penny Hardaway is one of my favorite players.

559
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: And then I read the newspaper. It was my dream

560
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Speaker 1: to be in the newspaper on the sports section because

561
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Speaker 1: I looked up to it. We had a few athletes

562
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: that should have been in the NBA they never made it.

563
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: And so then as you get older and older, it's

564
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Speaker 1: like it's a couple of cats are supposed to go

565
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Speaker 1: to the league or get somewhere from where I'm from,

566
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: but then not getting there. Why aren't they getting there?

567
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Speaker 1: Then I had a white teacher tell me you're gonna

568
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Speaker 1: be a loser, just like the rest of the guys.

569
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Speaker 1: So all this stuff is just driving me, like he

570
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: don't even know that I get straight a's. And then

571
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: the first time I got straight a's was like seventh

572
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: grade is when they start tracking grades like that. Brought

573
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Speaker 1: my grades home and my mom was like, oh, well,

574
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Speaker 1: it's the standard. So from then on, I couldn't do

575
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Speaker 1: no worse. Kind of it was a gift in the

576
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Speaker 1: curse because I'm like, I'm scared to go home now

577
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Speaker 1: I gotta be like, oh damn, like I'm gonna explain

578
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Speaker 1: this one.

579
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Speaker 5: No, you can't play tomorrow. So I just had the

580
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Speaker 5: right foundation.

581
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Speaker 1: And then from there, once I got older, like my

582
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: teammates would make fun of me, like, you know, guys

583
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm in the hood with would make fun of me

584
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Speaker 1: like he a nerd. But then at the time I

585
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Speaker 1: just embraced it. I'm like, man, you're gonna drop out

586
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Speaker 1: of school next year. I know where you're going.

587
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Speaker 2: You know.

588
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Speaker 1: So it was just that dual dynamic because I'm in

589
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Speaker 1: class with all white kids and it was like, man,

590
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: how you know the hood kids? And then I just

591
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: learned to be Then once we start hooping, once you

592
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Speaker 1: nice at hoop, everybody accepts you as a hooper and

593
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Speaker 1: so everything just but you know, that's what strengthens your

594
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Speaker 1: faith to your beliefs and like there's a higher power

595
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Speaker 1: because everything happening for a reason and it just happened

596
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Speaker 4: Hey, Dre, Dre, I'll tell you this.

598
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Speaker 3: Me and U d are super competitive as well, but

599
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Speaker 3: I can damn sure sure you.

600
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Speaker 4: We never compete on who's going to read a book faster?

601
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Speaker 2: He kill Listen. I was just about to say, listen,

602
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Speaker 2: you might not understand because you said damn, but me

603
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Speaker 2: and Dre know what it's like to walk in all

604
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Speaker 2: honors classes and they don't expect us to be there. Yeah,

605
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Speaker 2: I get that all the time.

606
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Speaker 4: Honors class.

607
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Speaker 2: They be like, when we walk into all honors class

608
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Speaker 2: and they expect us to be there, That shit is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Are you sign up for an optional you know, real

610
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611
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Speaker 1: to learn about you know, stocks, bonds or whatever, and

612
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Speaker 1: they like, you already got money what you hear for? Yeah,

613
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn.

614
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Just like you exactly. And it's crazy. I'm happy that

615
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: you brought that up because you know, we'll we'll circle

616
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: back on a lot of things. But I never really

617
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: have people that I can lean on when they come

618
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: to the team. It's never I'm the OG, and everybody

619
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: come for me to inform, come to me for information.

620
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: It's nobody I can really go to and have those

621
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: conversations with. But when you came to the team, it

622
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 2: was like a breath of fresh air because all these

623
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 2: different conversations I wanted to have, whether it was on

624
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: the basketball court about leadership, whether it was talking about

625
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Speaker 2: how I want to, you know, take my career to

626
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Speaker 2: the next level, or whether it was business conversations. I

627
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Speaker 2: remember sitting in the bubble with you, and Crypto was

628
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Speaker 2: starting to make a hit around that time, and you know,

629
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Speaker 2: I really wanted to understand stocks and different things like that.

630
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: So I would watch CNN, I would get my daily

631
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Speaker 2: vitamins and that would come and have these conversations with you, yep,

632
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: and you would tell me, Okay, this is what you

633
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: want to look at, this is what you don't want

634
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Speaker 2: to look at, and these are the things that matter,

635
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: these are the things that don't really matter, and different

636
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: things like that. But I never really had that opportunity

637
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: until you came to the team. But you obviously being

638
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Speaker 2: the person that was ahead of the game when it

639
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: came to that kind of shit like that, Just like,

640
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: how is that because understanding once again, you want to

641
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: people that look like us. We ain't waking up watching

642
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: the CNN. We ain't wake it up watching the mother

643
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Speaker 2: fucking see it is. So you get that a lot

644
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: from veterans and younger guys. But how is that being

645
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: the voice where guys could come to you, you know

646
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and ask you a lot of different

647
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: questions because we lean on you for a lot, you

648
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, being a part of obviously well

649
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: not even a part president Players Association, and obviously what

650
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Speaker 2: you do and what you did as a basketball player

651
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: is highly respect it. So we can trust you, you

652
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So being able to come to

653
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: you and trust you, how is that because you have

654
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: well a lot of hats though, wear a lot of hats, bro.

655
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think about it, especially in the

656
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: rough times, like when times get tough, because I don't

657
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: think people understand how, you know, the the mental part

658
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: of playing ball is whether it's what that's like, yes,

659
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: and how as a man, you're not supposed to let

660
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: your guard down. You're not supposed to have feelings. You're

661
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: not supposed to cry, You're not supposed to be, you know,

662
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: like exhausted emotionally, Like we're not supposed to have emotions

663
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: as athletes. But like, and that's why we have the

664
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: problems we have because now we got to face those

665
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: emotions when the game's over, Like you got to look

666
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: at yourself in the mirror, like whoa, I got to

667
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: get myself right because I mean, as a basketball player,

668
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: like life is easy outside of just playing a game,

669
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: because everybody taking care of everything for you when you

670
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: get away from the game, Like you got to look

671
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: at yourself in the mirror.

672
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: And so.

673
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: Even after I've been done playing ball, like I've had

674
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: moments where I'm like lonely because I'm wearing all these hats,

675
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: and certain parts of the job difficult, like you can't

676
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: trust nobody, and when you have certain jobs and certain

677
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: titles because you don't know who's trying to come after you.

678
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: You don't know who spreading the bad rumor about you.

679
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: You don't know who trying to backstab you. Like on

680
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: the court, we can figure it out because we know basketball,

681
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: and man, you miss me. Man, you did that on purpose,

682
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Like we can read all those things like what you're doing.

683
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, why you didn't set the screen for

684
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: your teammate? Like you see all that. But in this

685
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: corporate world, this that's new to me. So I've just

686
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: been able to you know, I got a therapist now,

687
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: wonderful thing. Man, And so like I find myself making

688
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: mistakes like, oh man, I told this person too much,

689
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: Like I gave him too much information and interaction. Let

690
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: me go check myself, let me be better tomorrow. And so

691
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: I think I've just embraced you know that model. You know,

692
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: heavy is the head. You know, heavy is the head

693
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: that wears the crowns or or you know, God won't

694
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: put more on your plate you can than you can handle.

695
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: And so then that that's motivating me to be like,

696
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: all right, I got to be on top of my game,

697
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, like I got to wake up early in

698
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: the morning. You know, I got a routine, all right,

699
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: I gotta stretch, all right, I gotta you know, meditate.

700
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

701
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: Let me read, all right, let me get myself ready

702
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: to show up to be my best. And then now

703
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: you just it's the Miami Heat mantra, get one percent

704
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: better every single day. You can do that if you

705
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: really be intentional about it. And so now you have

706
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: purpose every single day you wake up, and so now

707
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: you're showing up as your best self because I'm knowing

708
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: I can walk into a player just randomly anytime. I

709
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: remember being in San Francisco one day, I was going

710
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: to a business meeting, like nothing to do with basketball,

711
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: and I walked into two players that played for the Spurs.

712
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: They was coming out of a restaurant for lunch and

713
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: I was going past. I was like yo, And I

714
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: end up talking to him for twenty minutes and I

715
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: had to give him some game. So you just got

716
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: to be you got to be ready. And if you

717
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: just on, if you got good intentions and you just

718
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, understanding what your purpose is, you're never going

719
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: to be caught off guard because you knowing who you

720
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: are and you knowing what you got to show up

721
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: for and so. And also it's just motivating too, Like

722
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: if I miss Bloomberg two three days, I'm like, yo,

723
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I'm lost, even though

724
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm consuming the information through my emails or whatever, like

725
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: I got of It's like I need to know what

726
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: is going on and so, and it's it's also like

727
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: what's the big picture, Like what's my ultimate purpose?

728
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 5: What am I trying to do. I'm trying to lift

729
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 5: up my community.

730
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to build a whole bunch of mes,

731
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: not mes, but better versions of me. Because if I

732
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: can give you the game I got now, when you're

733
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty three, oh man, man, you different,

734
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna be different.

735
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 5: And so like that's what I'm just trying to do.

736
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: So when I'm seeing guys like they say, like, man,

737
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: you're preaching to me or you give me a motivational speech,

738
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, man, I need to give you all

739
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: I can right now. I may not see you again

740
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: because I need you to be way better than me

741
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: so you can do it for the next ten people.

742
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: I agree, because we're seeing everything but win. But I

743
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: will say this young fellas at home, Bloomberg ain't his homeboy.

744
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: That's not what he's saying. Motherfuckers might have thought Bloomberg

745
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: was one of his own boy Bloomberg, you talk about this,

746
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: Oh I got you. These motherfuckers might not know, they

747
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: might not be right. Right, you're right, you're right.

748
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: But what I but.

749
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: That's what's wrong.

750
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: I was lost saying. I'm like, oh, yeah, I got

751
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: I got, I got you. I got you.

752
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: Think you talking about what of your homeboysus Google is

753
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: y'all don't know. He's not talking about when it's homeboarys,

754
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna tell you. I'm gonna make you do

755
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: your research. But he's not talking about the homie. But

756
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: what I'll say, Dre is you have the You have

757
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: the uncandida uncanny ability is like I do. Is where

758
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: you're relatable to an eighteen year old, you're relatable to

759
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: a twenty five year old, you're relatable to a thirty

760
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: five year old, and then you're also relatable to guys

761
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: my age and the generation beyond us like you. You

762
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: you can play all those roles. You know what I'm saying.

763
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: That's that's a gift and a curse. Yes, you know

764
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's why somebody my age can come

765
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: to you and have conversation and ask for advice. Then

766
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: an eighteen year old can come to you and ask

767
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: you for advice, and I'm gonna take you. Jay. I

768
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: was a little jealous. I seen you on co Connect.

769
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Now you pull that shit off, because my kids went

770
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: crazy about it, and that was a huge fucking deal.

771
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: And I didn't even know even know what the fuck

772
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: were talking about. Do you know who we're talking about?

773
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

774
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if you watch YouTube killer because

775
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't very aware, but I saw you. Now, can

776
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: you talk about that and how that went? Because that

777
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: was real? That was cool as shit? Said, Man, I

778
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: didn't know. I mean, I know who the kid is.

779
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: I know Kaysonadis, and I knew of him, and I

780
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: knew he had a crazy following, but I didn't I

781
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: don't understand it. So it was the reaction I got

782
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: from it was a surprise.

783
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: That was a big deal, Drew, I ain't gonna lie.

784
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: That was a big deal. That's old motherfuckers. It was

785
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: route for you.

786
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: So I gotta I got a funny thing for you

787
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: where you know, you trying to get guys to buy

788
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: in to, you know, the business of basketball. You know,

789
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: you know that's a hamster will like you constantly got

790
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: to be on, like you got to show up for

791
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: the game.

792
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 5: You gotta you know, pass the torch. You know, you

793
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 5: got to carry the torch.

794
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: You know.

795
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: It's there's a lot of responsibilities as being a professional athlete,

796
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: like you got to you got to protect the shield.

797
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: That's a part of it. You know, that's what the

798
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: partnership is supposed to be. And so I'm trying to

799
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: get guys to like, hey man, make sure you sign

800
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: up for this, make sure you do this. You know

801
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, you gotta check your finances,

802
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, and I've been an athlete, I know how

803
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: hard it is for them to be like, all right,

804
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: you ask me, call my financial advisor, say let's meet

805
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: months a month. They sound easy, but I know I

806
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: know who's not doing it, which is unfortunately a lot

807
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: of guys. And so I can't get the response that

808
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: I would like because I just like, come on, fam

809
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: like come on, come on, come on, come on. But

810
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: when I tell you, when I went on that show.

811
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: How many players reached out to me. I'm like, this

812
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: is what it took for you to buy in check,

813
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: that's what. And so that happened randomly, like I wasn't

814
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: trying to go on the show. I didn't ask to

815
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: go on the show. I ran into him at a

816
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: game and him and his boys had them big like

817
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, like sixty seventies you know suits, you know

818
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They from the Bronx, and so they

819
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: had their top had song like they were doing it.

820
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, y'all going crazy, like y'all like this

821
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: is dope. You have some young cats, you know, they

822
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty one years old. And so I started

823
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: asking the questions. This is the question I asked Mote

824
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: any of them, how did you know you were good

825
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: at this? Because I don't even know what this. I

826
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: don't even know what this is great question. I don't

827
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: even know what you do. I don't I don't. I

828
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: don't know it because I'm I'm I'm a pastor, moved

829
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: from that generation. So I'm like, what is this?

830
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: What is this?

831
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

832
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: How it is?

833
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: It's making money?

834
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, and so I knew something was

835
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: different about him when I saw him in the McDonald's commercial.

836
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, So like Team Mobile Like, okay, cool, I

837
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: see they trying to get to the youth. They trying

838
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: to get to that demographic. You know, I understanding the

839
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: consumer that Team Mobile wants. But I'm knowing like where

840
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: I come from with McDonald's, Like after a basketball game

841
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I'm trying to go get

842
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: that Olympic Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Larry Bird cup supersized

843
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: because I know I'm only going to McDonald's like once

844
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: every other month, Like this is my opportunity to get

845
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: this cup. So that's why I'm identifying like what McDonald's

846
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: like when it was in his heyday. So I said, Kai,

847
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: do you understand how hard it is to have an

848
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: endorsement deal my make Donald's, Like how many NBA players

849
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: had an endorsement deal by McDonald's, Like when the like

850
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: Lebron's next on the Weedies box, Lebron's next at McDonald's,

851
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: Like it's only reserved for them. So I'm like, Kai,

852
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: So I'm asking, I'm like, Kay, do you understand who

853
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: you are? Like I saw you in the McDonald's commercial, Like,

854
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't know what the hell it

855
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: is you do. So like how you know you good

856
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: at this? And he was like, naw, they just fuck

857
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: with me. And I'm like, what does that mean? You

858
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? And so now we're starting to

859
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: talk and I'm understanding, like he's smart because they get it.

860
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he doing it.

861
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, now, what's your next ten

862
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: years look like? So I'm asking him question. He's like, damn,

863
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: you ask different questions. And so now I'm talking to

864
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: his homies. Hey man, y'all make sure y'all stay on

865
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: y'all game man, because if you got a McDonald's deal,

866
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: what's your market cap? And that's bloomberg Like if you

867
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: sold everything your entire value, if you can get everything

868
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: you could out of yourself, if you got one hundred

869
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: percent of your value, you that's your market cap. Like

870
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's only four companies now with a three

871
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: trillion dollar market cap, meaning if the company sold off

872
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: every single thing and it got ever sold all of

873
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: its products, one hundred percent is worth three trillion dollars

874
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: and you normally you're not getting that but like, they're

875
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: just giving you this number. So I'm like, Yo, if

876
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: somebody paying you fifty million, you probably worth five hundred million.

877
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: So I'm just talking to him like that because I'm

878
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: that's just where my brain is. This is Bloomberg talking, right.

879
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 5: So he's like, and I don'tbody talk to us like this.

880
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: And I'm asking his homeboys the same questions, like, Yo, y'all,

881
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: y'all make sure y'all keep y'all circle tight, man, y'all,

882
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: make sure y'all stay focused, don't let all the you know,

883
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: instant gratification gets you, keep you short term vision and

884
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: I'll see you in two years. I need to see

885
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: you in ten years because once you phase out of this,

886
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: what's next for you? Because it's going to be a

887
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: next up and cooming person. So how can you pivot

888
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: this to something else as you get older and older

889
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: and keep your community, you know, the eyeballs because that's

890
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: all it is, is the eyeboss. And so he was like, man,

891
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: ain't nobody really show love to my friends like you did?

892
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm just regular. This is who

893
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: I am. I'm like, you ud like, I'm just an

894
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: outgoing person. I'm like chopping it up with my people.

895
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I'm going to LA. I'm doing

896
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: this thing.

897
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: Would you pull up.

898
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, And I didn't get

899
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: excited because I got a lot of NBA players calling

900
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: me like Yo, get me on the show, give me

901
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: on the show, like they super excited. I'm just like,

902
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: all right, if you mean to come on the show,

903
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: Like I didn't even think I was going on the show.

904
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna come out to LA and

905
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: chop it up with you. I'm trying to talk business. Yeah,

906
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, how can I got

907
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: a idea something I'm trying to do with them with

908
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: his generation and you know, NBA players or whatever. And

909
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: so he was like all right, cool, worked it out,

910
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: pull up to the house, and when I walk in,

911
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this young dude is crazy. I'm like, Yo,

912
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: this is yo you this is so you know how

913
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: we got the set right here?

914
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

915
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: And you know how you walk. You watch some shows

916
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: like say you're watching this The Morning Show on Apple

917
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: TV plus right it's one of the big shows, and

918
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: it's like based on like The Morning Show and all

919
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: the scandals that happen on that. But you know how

920
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: you watch a newsroom and it's like that those big

921
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: it's like thirty TV's on display. They got the control system.

922
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: Then you know, go to this channel, go to this set,

923
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: go to this live, just go to this feed, go

924
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: to that feet and it's like you.

925
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: Got set up.

926
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: No, he had that in this house. So when I

927
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: walk and I'm like, oh, y'all going crazy? Are you

928
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: going crazy?

929
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 4: Twin?

930
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking like them, now are you going crazy?

931
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: Twin?

932
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: Like, imagine, imagine this whole wall right here behind you. You

933
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: imagine that whole room is all screens and it's control board.

934
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: They switch your flips, and it's this big house. They

935
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: got cameras everywhere. And so this is the best way

936
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: to explain it. It's like having a sleepover when you

937
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: ten eleven years old. So before you can get off

938
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: the porch, you can't go out in the block.

939
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 5: You and your.

940
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Homeboys like, yo, we're gonna have a pillow fight. But

941
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: then we're gonna watch a movie. But but then we're

942
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna uh, we're gonna play paintball. Uh, but now we're

943
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna play spades. All right, Now we're gona play hide

944
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: and Seek. We're gonna brite some girls. We canna playhide

945
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: and Seek till the sun go down, like you kind

946
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: of map out your weekend because you and your boys,

947
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: but everything got to be in the house because you

948
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: can't go outside. I'm like, oh, y'all playing, y'all playing

949
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: sleepover as a dose, Like y'all crazy man, But it

950
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: was so cold. These dudes had a funeral for his hamster.

951
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: Man.

952
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: It was a man. It was it was crazy man,

953
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm trying to figure out, like yo, man,

954
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: And so they set up it's almost like wild'n out

955
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: or it's almost like in Living color. It's like improv.

956
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: They just set up a set like they playing, like

957
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: they playing, you know, sleepover. All right, my pet hamster died.

958
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a funeral for the pet hamster. You

959
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like when I was young, I

960
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: had a sleepover with my friend and I was on

961
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: a bike. The front tier fell off and I chipped

962
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: my tooth and so we spent like thirty minutes like

963
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: I'm crying because I'm young and my teeth and fell out,

964
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, you're good fam, all right, we're

965
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: gonna take a minute. We gotta take a break because

966
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: Dre lost his tooth. They minutes later, we're gonna go

967
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 1: do something else. So his hamster died. Fam it's really

968
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: like thirty paid actors. He had a set that's a

969
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: real funeral. They had a big, big, huge picture of

970
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: the hamster.

971
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 5: They had they had a casket.

972
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: You know, he had a real like what caskets ready

973
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: for them.

974
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: It was like this big open I don't think the

975
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: hamster was really in there, but the hamster really did die.

976
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: And then he had a dude do like a eulogy,

977
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: and when the black tie like a reverend. And then

978
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: he had people in there, and so I'm we walked somebody,

979
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: but it was already up there. But no, he had

980
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: like it's like everyone's dressed in black. They got on gowns,

981
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: people got on their suits and ties, and I'm fresh

982
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: from upstairs. We just came from another set. We was

983
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: kicking it. I did a motivational speech. Were laughing about

984
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: something else. We talking about the lebron Bock. We're talking

985
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: about this, We're talking about that. So I don't walk downstairs.

986
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, y'all crazy man. Y'all crazy as hell,

987
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Like you're trying not to laugh because he's dead serious.

988
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: So we sit down and it's a black a black

989
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: girl in there, like a black woman. She start wheling

990
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: and crying like a black woman.

991
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: No, not my baby, not my baby.

992
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: And then his other brother, his other friend, is like,

993
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: y'all should have took him?

994
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: Why I had to be him?

995
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: He should be dead.

996
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: So I started laughing.

997
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: Man up in my head and I'm like, yo, man,

998
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: And then guy's like, Andre, do you think it's funny

999
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: that my hamster died? And I'm like, I'm like, man, stop, stop.

1000
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: And so then like once we once we're done with that,

1001
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: go to the back. Now we're hooping. He was like, Yo,

1002
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna play once. You know, we're gonna play a

1003
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: game of horse. And then we're doing that, then we

1004
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: have another set. I'm just like, amen, all this set

1005
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: up a man, all this himself, and man, you a

1006
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: genius dog. Wow, he's a genius man. And I think

1007
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: that's the power of our community, and that's why we

1008
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: got to keep looking out for each other, because like, man,

1009
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: this dude's got the most paid subscribers, he got his

1010
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: own channel, he's at his own TV station essentially, and

1011
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: then he just he's just feeding it different shows and

1012
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: this is how he's doing it. And so I'm just like, yo,

1013
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: this is how these kids are thinking. And so when

1014
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: you don't staying, you can be like, man, our new

1015
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: generation is lazy. They don't want to work. They just

1016
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: want to sit in front of a camera. But when

1017
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: it's done the right way, it's like, oh, this is

1018
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: how we should be inspiring ourselves to create things because

1019
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: we're creatives.

1020
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 5: And now we have the consumer.

1021
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm going I know who's buying my channel, and

1022
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: I know what they like, so I know what kind

1023
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: of commercial it wants, and I know I'm supposed to

1024
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: be a part of it. So like McDonald's, I got

1025
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand people that's coming to see me at

1026
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: a certain time every single day. All right, mak a

1027
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: McDonald's commercial. All Right, give me the endorsement deal. You

1028
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. T MO was coming, he got

1029
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: a Nike deal. Nike he only had deals for athletes.

1030
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: Now the entertainers, you know, Kevin Hart had won whatever whatever,

1031
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: Travis Scott, Now they got streamers, Tyson, I got a

1032
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: Nike deal. This kid is different.

1033
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: Man, shout out, yeah, shot, my kids love them. When

1034
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: I saw you on this show, that was a huge

1035
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: fucking deal.

1036
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: But I didn't get it before. I didn't get it either,

1037
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: and then now I'm like, oh, I get it.

1038
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: I kind of got that a little bit when I

1039
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: saw him. I think it was I don't know if

1040
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: it was All Star was a game, but I think

1041
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: it was the same game. When you say he was

1042
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: dressed up in the suit, he was sitting right next

1043
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: to Adam Silva.

1044
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 5: That the same game.

1045
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was sitting right next to Adam Silver, like

1046
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: shooting the ship with Adam Silver. I was like, yeah,

1047
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: he like he got it, he got some he got

1048
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: some ship. Yeah with him, he said, right next to

1049
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: Adam Silver, locked in with him. So now that was dope.

1050
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: And all the old heads over here was we was

1051
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: We was loving that ship. We felt like we was

1052
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: on the show. Yeah, young fellas. My kids are huge fans, right,

1053
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So when we go to

1054
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: the All Star Games, and when I take my kids

1055
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: to the All Star Games, they ain't trying to meet

1056
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: the fucking players. They wanted to meet the YouTube. Yeah,

1057
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: they don't give a fuck about the guys in the

1058
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: game like they could care less. They've been growing around

1059
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 2: NBA players their whole life.

1060
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: Very true.

1061
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: So, but if they could meet him or somebody, or

1062
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,479
Speaker 2: Speed or somebody that's doing with you. Because I watched

1063
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: Speed clips shot out Speed, I watch your clips too.

1064
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: That's funny.

1065
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: Ship when you was fucking with the alligator, Speed is crazy.

1066
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fucking around with alligator, trying to do it,

1067
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: trying to jump on an alligator back or catch an

1068
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: alligator some ship like that. So I fuck with Speed too.

1069
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: But when I watch all these guys and my kids,

1070
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: they show up to these events and they're not worried

1071
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: about the athletes, right, they're not. They'll spend a day

1072
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: watching Ki or Speed and just watching the things that

1073
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: they do. Speed jumping over a damn car coming at

1074
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: them one hundred miles an hour, ship like that. My

1075
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: kids watch that ship all the time and they love

1076
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: that ship. So that was huge, and that was a

1077
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 2: big deal for us. How was the Paul Barer carrying

1078
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 2: How was the Paul Bearer carrying a casket with the hampster.

1079
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: By the time we showed up to the set, the

1080
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: casket was already like already up front where it.

1081
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: Was at Okay, okay, that was a Paul Bear hegel rect.

1082
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: Of that was that was that was different.

1083
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: That's a funny ship.

1084
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Dre, let's let's touch on something real quick.

1085
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: I we don't mind, all right, as much as I

1086
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: hated on that that you want to VP of the

1087
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: files in two thousand and fifty talk about that Golden

1088
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: State team a little bit with you don't mind?

1089
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I have been. I've been thinking about

1090
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: that recent because the Warriors are doing something really special

1091
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: for me, something super dope, and so I for doing that,

1092
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: I had to get my mind like, you know, you

1093
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: got to get ready for something now because I mean

1094
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: to cut you off.

1095
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 5: But I cried, well, I don't know because.

1096
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: And I had to tell it.

1097
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna cry.

1098
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: I had to tell my man, truly not right's a river.

1099
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: And so I had to tell Zaza. He was like

1100
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: you excited. I'm like, Zaza, honestly, I don't feel nothing

1101
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: because I'm so busy. I ain't even had a chance

1102
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: to think about it. You know what I'm saying. And

1103
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: you know how you and I are, how we are,

1104
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: It's like all right, what we're doing next, Let's get

1105
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: to it. Let's get to it. So we don't even

1106
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: allow ourselves to reflect or even enjoy our successes because

1107
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: we're like, man, all right, I did it. Whatever, Man,

1108
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: I did that. Let's let's let's go to the next thing.

1109
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, I've been so swamped trying to

1110
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: show up for the family, trying to show up at work,

1111
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: doing all these things. Like I ain't really had a

1112
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: chance to think about it, but I had got to

1113
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: start preparing my mind, like the you know, the first

1114
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: championship team, and I go back to my you know,

1115
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: I laugh about the bronze and d Wade and Bosh's interview,

1116
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, Bron's like not one, not two, not three.

1117
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: But I go back to my press conference, which was

1118
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: much smaller, like I'm only thinking, like it's local. It

1119
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna pick up no national news. You know, Dwight

1120
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: Howard was the top tier for that free agency. But

1121
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I mentioned like, yo, like I just played against this

1122
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: team in the playoffs and then they gave San Antonio

1123
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: a run, Like I feel like I'm a piece. I'm

1124
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: that piece that can be the one that kind of

1125
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: gets us to the next round or have an opportunity

1126
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: to look at a championship. Now, I never won a championship.

1127
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: I never been past the second round, so I don't

1128
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: know what it's like. So, you know, it's always cliche

1129
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: to say you're gonna win a championship. Obviously the heat

1130
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: y'all gonna compete for a championship every single year when

1131
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: Bron says that, so he's right and saying that, But

1132
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: for me, it's just like, I don't know. I feel

1133
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: like it's something here where I can help. You don't

1134
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: know you can compete with a championship until you get

1135
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: there the first time. And so building that team, we

1136
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: were just super tight knit. We were winning games. We

1137
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: know Steph is Steph. Mark Jackson then told us Steph

1138
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: is Steph. Y'all go see in a minute, he gonna

1139
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: be MVP. Mark Jackson have been saying this for like

1140
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: two or three years already before anybody was thinking about it,

1141
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: which was a crazy thing.

1142
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 5: He was like, STEP's our guy. Nobody on his team

1143
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 5: getting his way.

1144
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Now, how many times you didn't seen that where a

1145
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: coach tell the whole team, hey, man, ain't nobody gonna

1146
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: get his.

1147
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: Dudes, way.

1148
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's what I That's why I wanted

1149
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: to be a part of that team. I'm like, that's

1150
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: beautiful because we ain't gonna have no hayting. We ain't

1151
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: gona have nobody not setting screens, we ain'tna have nobody

1152
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: stealing rebounds, like we know what time it is. And

1153
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: so we just had a really close, tight knit group

1154
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: and as we're winning, it was like it was building organically,

1155
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: like we got we don't even know we got something special,

1156
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: but everybody's approaching it the right way. And you know

1157
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: how it can be in professional sports, like it takes

1158
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: one guy to get mad at It takes one guy

1159
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: to be mad that he didn't get a shot, and

1160
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: they can spiral the team out of control.

1161
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: I tell people it's like a bicycle chain. Yep, it's

1162
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: like a bicycle chain. Bro one link is dusty as fuck.

1163
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: Ain't all the fucking you gotta change the whole goddamn

1164
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: thing because the ship just ain't gonna work. Before we

1165
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: get to that, though, I want to touch on because

1166
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: you went to Denver before you were there and you

1167
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: just missed Mellow, but you did play for George Call

1168
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: How was that playing for George calling, and I don't

1169
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: understand it because I fuck with Mellow and and and

1170
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: competing against Mellow. He wanted the best to pick up

1171
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 2: the motherfucking basketball. What the fuck, George Car?

1172
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: What's up with Mellow?

1173
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: George Car keeps fucking with Mellow? Like what?

1174
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 5: But Mellow ain't the only one, if you?

1175
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: What is going on, Georgia? Georgie sent me a shot?

1176
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: Oh he shot you with you to every like twice

1177
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: a year? Really?

1178
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: What?

1179
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: What?

1180
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: What not? So I got respect for him. I don't

1181
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: know him personally, but for what these accomplished as the coach,

1182
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: I respect for him. But what what is what is

1183
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: this about?

1184
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: So we're playing the Warriors in the in the playoffs

1185
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: when I'm in Denver, mind you Denver? In Denver, we

1186
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: still got the team record for most wins in the

1187
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: regular season, the team diver team. I was on how many?

1188
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: How many is that? Fifty seven?

1189
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 4: I think we won.

1190
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: It's the most wins in Denver Nuggets regular season history.

1191
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: They supposed to break it, you know, uh, let's you know,

1192
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: history will tell, time will tell. But we had a

1193
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: really good team, Gallo towards a c L, like seven

1194
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: games to go, Gallinari did, and.

1195
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 5: Gallo was Gallo. Gallo is the best player on the team.

1196
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: He was a bucket Gallows.

1197
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: Gallow is different. And then Timothy Mosgov was important to us.

1198
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: He was mos Got was better than people think too.

1199
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: He broke his finger something. The last game of the

1200
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: year was.

1201
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: That before he went to Cleveland and got paid up.

1202
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: Before that, he was with us Inland. It was before

1203
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: all that. And so that's why I want MVP, because

1204
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: I had kept that, kept putting him on me. But

1205
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: we'll get to that disrespect right, right, and mos Gov

1206
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: can play. So those two go down. We go against

1207
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: the Warriors in the playoffs. It's three verse six seed.

1208
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: We did three seeds, and so when we're matched up

1209
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: against them, you know, we win game one, they win

1210
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: game two, and then they win both games at home.

1211
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: And we had an interesting game strategy, right, and the

1212
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: strategy wasn't necessarily excess and those and so we're playing

1213
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: a certain type of physicality that's not really our true DNA.

1214
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 5: So it don't even look.

1215
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: Right what we're trying to accomplish out here, like this

1216
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: ain't we ain't never did this before and this ain't

1217
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: even excess and those things. So we just we just

1218
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: basically about to lose. You know, we know, we players,

1219
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, we got a sense of what's going on.

1220
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 5: We high Q players.

1221
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: And so Mark Jackson, I'm taking the ball out in

1222
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: front of the denver's bench and Marks like, Yo, why

1223
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: y'all playing like this?

1224
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: Man?

1225
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 5: Like why y'all trying to do this to my guys?

1226
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: Like what's like? Come on, dog like keep it, keep

1227
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: it a buck like what we're doing. And I'm like, Mark,

1228
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: I don't play like that, fan, I'm a real hooper.

1229
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't do that. That was a conversation. Go the

1230
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: ball in, keep going the hoop. Now after the game,

1231
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: Mark is like, I got word from one of the

1232
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: there were Nuggas players that the game strategy is to

1233
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: hurt my guys and play dirty. That's how Mark interpreted, right,

1234
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: not the words to happen.

1235
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: That's not what you.

1236
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: Said, right. I'm like, Mark, I don't I don't move

1237
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: like that, fam, Like, I'm a real hooper. I ain't

1238
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: got to do that to win. I don't do I

1239
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: don't move like that. You know what I'm saying. And

1240
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: so we lose a series because certain coach coaches, you know,

1241
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: they're known to fall short when it gets real. Everybody

1242
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: got a sky report, Yeah I got a I got

1243
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: weaknesses in my skyt report. You got weakness in your

1244
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: sky report. You got weakness in your sky report, and

1245
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: everybody can talk about it. But once upon a time

1246
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: it was like coaches were off limits. Y'all gotta be

1247
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: held accountable too. So certain coaches have the most regular

1248
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: season wins in NBA history, but they can't get nowhere

1249
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And then now the truth is coming

1250
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: to light, and this is like the beginning of a

1251
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: coach winning Coach of the Year and getting fired the

1252
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: same year. That's what happened. So we got a mole

1253
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: on our team, is what George Carr comes out and says,

1254
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: we got a mole. We got a guy on our

1255
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: team telling the other team our game plan. Man.

1256
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: That ain't a game plan. First and foremost, this ain't

1257
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 5: not This is not a game.

1258
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: Plan, motherfucking Detroit Pistons against the Bulls.

1259
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: But they had they had actual game plan behind the

1260
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: Jordan rules. If Jordan gets a certain point, you do this.

1261
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: If Jordan dos a certain thing, you do a certain thing.

1262
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: Ours was like brass knuckles man elbow, elbow, elbow, woman

1263
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: in the head, just tackle them.

1264
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: And you want to be physical, but you don't want

1265
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 2: to be like.

1266
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: So it's like I come up to you. I'm coming

1267
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: up to you. Hey, who the first person you're gonna

1268
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: hit tonight?

1269
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: What you're gonna say, lou as you talk about this

1270
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: hit nobody just to hit him?

1271
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: Like, no, you're gonna say You're gonna say the biggest

1272
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: dude I can find, that's who You hit them? Like

1273
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: you because we ain't got no game, no, no, we

1274
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: need to just we need to people to fill our physicality.

1275
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 5: Just hit somebody.

1276
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, cool, we're gonna play more physical,

1277
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: but don't go ask my seven footer who the first

1278
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: person he gonna hit? And he looking at you like, uh,

1279
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit Steph.

1280
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: I'm like wrong answer.

1281
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go hit Bogic. Yeah, because bo get whacking

1282
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: me full court. That's how Steph getting open. So it's like,

1283
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: and this ain't even planned out. This is the pre

1284
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: game speech. All right, we're gonna be physical. So who

1285
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit tonight? Like now we're putting this game

1286
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: plan in Like yeah.

1287
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: That's different. And I've been about physicality, and I've been

1288
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: about competition my whole life, but I've never been set

1289
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: at the meeting with coach like who you're gonna hit

1290
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: the night. I ain't never had that conversation.

1291
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 5: And your big picks the smallest person.

1292
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm a cut that ship up.

1293
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm just and so I'm looking. I'm like they asked, like,

1294
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: who you're gonna hit? A right, I'm gonna go hit Bogit.

1295
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1296
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit Carl Andry. You know what I'm saying,

1297
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: Like I'm hitting him. They gonna feel me. I'm gonna

1298
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: hit the toughest dude if I can. If I can

1299
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: hit him, if I can show weakness in him, the

1300
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 2: rest of the team gonna crumble.

1301
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: But it's just like I'm just like, I'm like, what

1302
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: we're doing and then it's visible because we don't know

1303
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: how to do it.

1304
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, thing we're practicing it, were missing.

1305
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Hitting them, and so Mark looking like, hey man, what

1306
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: y'all doing out there? This ain't who and that's why

1307
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 1: we losing. We down three one that we already redown

1308
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: three one even play yo.

1309
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: I hate and and I understand there's adjustments but I

1310
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 2: hate when you get to the playoffs or you get

1311
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 2: somewhere where you've played a certain way and use established

1312
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: an identity, and all of a sudden, when you're playing

1313
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: against a certain team or you a certain series, you

1314
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: just want to scrap that identity. The whole thing I

1315
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: hate when coaches do. That's to me, that's that's fucking

1316
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 2: over coaching. Like that's like, you do what the fuck

1317
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: you do? You make adjustments, you alter different things throughout

1318
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: the game, but you do what the fuck you.

1319
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: Cause one thing about Doc Doc was really good at

1320
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm have some a counter, so I'm gonna put in

1321
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: all this false action over this side to really get

1322
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: to what I need to get to on this side.

1323
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 5: And it's truer. It's like, instead of me getting.

1324
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: To Paul Pierce as the first option because I know

1325
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: he can give me a bucket, I'm gonna have boom boom,

1326
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: boom boom, make defense react over here. Now I'm gonna

1327
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: get Paul set up in an io situation over here

1328
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: after a few actions so the defense can't load up

1329
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: on I.

1330
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: Never played for Doc, Mike was Doc in Orlando? Did

1331
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: you play for Doc in Orlando? Mike yeah, I think

1332
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: I'll let you speak on Doc, but I will tell

1333
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: you this. In those playoff series against the Boston Celtics,

1334
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: we knew what Doc was gonna run, but they got

1335
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: a shot every time. Yeah, we knew exactly what Doc

1336
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: was gonna run. We knew if it was gonna be

1337
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: for Ray, we knew if it was gonna be for Parut.

1338
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: We knew exactly, but he would get a good shot

1339
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: every time out of the time. Out That shit drove

1340
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: me crazy. Whether we win the series or not, I

1341
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: want to win the series, but I would always reflect back,

1342
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: how the fuck they always get a good shot out

1343
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: of the time, Like, how does it happen? Like, just

1344
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: speak on that because for me, y'all had the opportunity.

1345
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: I never sat in the hood of it Doc, but

1346
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: he fucking draws.

1347
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: In the same way. I never played for Doc, but

1348
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it like he drew up, he drew up

1349
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: a game winning played. I'm like we was all over

1350
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: here and the play was like, oh that was incredible.

1351
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I talk about that, Mike, because you you've been

1352
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: in the hood of with Doc. Bro, he gets he

1353
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: draw up.

1354
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 4: Doctor was lead with the ship.

1355
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: But Doc, what Doc did was let his town win, right,

1356
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: Like I got in the way of that we talk

1357
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: about we talked about with an over coaching. He simplified

1358
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: stuff and let us like like TV Brown said a

1359
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: long time ago, those gimmis and Joe's right, ye who

1360
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: he had as players and he allowed those guys inside

1361
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: of a system. Yes, he dictated the system, get those

1362
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: guys players shots. But Doc simplifies stuff. He was, my

1363
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: players are better than your players what he thought they were.

1364
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: True hooper, that hoop, And that's what I'm saying about.

1365
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying about this the guy the

1366
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: games going. And so it's funny because you know that's

1367
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: his excuse.

1368
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 5: You know, he got one.

1369
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: Other job after that, Uh, George Carter. He went to

1370
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: sack and it was short lived with DeMarcus and now

1371
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: him and DeMarcus at Us and then he had that

1372
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: He wrote a book and he spoke a certain way

1373
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: about Kenyam Martin and j R. Smith talking about you know,

1374
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: NBA black players not having fathers because we're knowing not

1375
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: to have fathers. Like he went off the deep bench, right. So,

1376
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: and so every like once or twice a year, we

1377
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: got to go through this where he was like, oh,

1378
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: here's the mold or he's like this is their best

1379
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: team in different Nuggets history except one guy.

1380
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 5: That's great, right, And so the funny.

1381
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: Thing about that was that was my best statistical playoff

1382
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: series of my career. I was going crazy, but you

1383
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: was just hooping. You wasn't on the bullshit, right, I'm

1384
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: about to get to this, like I'm gonna put you

1385
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: all on my back. Let's get to it now. We

1386
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: lost four to two whatever whatever, Like I go home.

1387
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: But it's like, like you just said earlier, like a

1388
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: man left it all on the floor. Yeah, and so

1389
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: like that is unfortunate with George and how it keeps

1390
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: coming up, like the bitterness and it's like, come on, man,

1391
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: you only got but so much time left on earth, man,

1392
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: Like breathe some fresh air and enjoy the rest of

1393
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: your life, like you sitting on Twitter every day trying

1394
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: to get back at people like, ain't nobody listen. I

1395
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: understand that you know what I'm saying, And now understand

1396
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: the disconnect between or to disconnect with him with Mellow

1397
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: because Mellow's at piece too, Like Melow's like all right, man,

1398
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: business dog, like what we're.

1399
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: Doing Yeah, it was some weird shit between the number fifteen,

1400
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: Mellow and a number or Joker win a number and

1401
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: different things like that, and I don't really get into

1402
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: that shit.

1403
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: Man.

1404
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: Two things can be true. Mellow could have been great

1405
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: for Denver when he was there with the number, and

1406
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: Joko could be great in Denver right there with the number.

1407
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: Now, it was the first time. It was the first

1408
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: time where basketball fans thought light blue and gold was

1409
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: the coolest color mixture.

1410
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

1411
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: Michael mj and Jordan brand is releasing Jordan's shoes not

1412
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: because of Carolina, because they the mellow colors. Like you

1413
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: talking about the influence he had on the game of basketball,

1414
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: like let's let's not your better feelings because you didn't

1415
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: get your way getting away of greatness.

1416
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I was fucking with them boys. It was

1417
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: an opportunity for me to go to Denver. When I

1418
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: ended up signing back to Miami, it was an opportunity

1419
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: to go to Denver. And it was Denver and if

1420
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, Dallas, I remember Dallas going back to Miami.

1421
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: I remember the opportunity to go to Denver because I

1422
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: was in JR. Mellow Kenya Martin. I'm looking at them

1423
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: due n I'm looking like I fit in. Yeah, I

1424
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: fit in the perfect obviously, But the only opportunity in

1425
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: my mind to win, the best opportunity was here and

1426
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: it worked out. But I mean you had the chance

1427
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: of Spoe yeah, Kerr, Yeah, George Carr, who was one

1428
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: of the you know regular season the differences between those

1429
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: three coaches and what you were able to take from

1430
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: all those coaches.

1431
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: You know who I put in there too, for real,

1432
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: because we had our little We didn't have issues, but

1433
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: we had our little you know, roughs because I got

1434
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: traded during the Olympics. But like Doug Collins, uh was brilliant,

1435
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: was brilliant with exis and those I wish I would

1436
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: have got him earlier in my career. I would have

1437
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: loved to have gotten Doug Collins earlier in my career

1438
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: because he was talking about like the Gago action. You know,

1439
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: you know how MJ could separate from his man or

1440
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: using I use it, use my teammate. My teammate can

1441
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: set a screen for me without even knowing, like brush

1442
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: off the back of my teammate. Defense got to figure

1443
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: out how to react to it. You know, just different

1444
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,959
Speaker 1: ways to read the defense. I'm putting Doug Collins in there.

1445
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: And so I'll start with Doug because you know, back

1446
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: in the in the league in those days, it was

1447
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: like mid range isolations. You know, do this, do that.

1448
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: And Doug told us how to break the game down

1449
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: and how to see the floor. You know, you don't

1450
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: have to have the ball in your hands to be effective.

1451
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: You know how to get certain types of positioning, just

1452
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: like how to see the game differently that I never

1453
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: seen it before, and I didn't get to him till

1454
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: like year six. So I'll put Doug there. He got

1455
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: the most of the team that we had, Like we

1456
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: weren't the most talented, but we competed every single night.

1457
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: You know, he brought it straight to you raw what

1458
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: the young boys say, Pauls or whatever.

1459
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: But I was thinking that that was a pause moment.

1460
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: D I wasn't gonna say.

1461
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: Nothing, like he'll bring it straight to you like if

1462
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: he like he wouldn't, you know, like if he had

1463
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: an issue with it, he'll just say it. Now. You know,

1464
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: Doug's highly emotional person, but you know, super competitive career

1465
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: was cut short by injuries. So I think that played

1466
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: a part intil like how he presented itself, but like

1467
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: Doug wanted to win. So that was a really good

1468
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: experience for me, Like I learned a lot from Doug.

1469
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: And then going to George. One thing about George, George

1470
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: is really good about he can tell you exactly how

1471
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: you could win the game.

1472
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 5: All right, this is how we're gonna win the night.

1473
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: We got to get more rebounds in them and then

1474
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: we can beat them by We're gonna wear them down

1475
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: by the third quarter.

1476
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 5: They're gonna be tired. They're not good at this.

1477
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: Exploit this Like he can find like two things and

1478
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: he's like, if you focus on those things, it's gonna

1479
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: like we'll win the game. And it would always it

1480
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: rained true most of the time. And then with a

1481
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: with Steve Kerr, I would say, Steve is like, I'm

1482
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna get out of the way. He was like, Doc,

1483
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out the way of the talent. I'm

1484
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: never gonna get in the way of the talent, but

1485
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure the talent structured. And so he

1486
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: was like when he came into the Warriors, he was like, Yo,

1487
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: we got a lot of talent. One thing I noticed

1488
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: is that we get into our ISO situations a little

1489
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: bit too early. So I'm gonna add in the ball move. Yes,

1490
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: so we're gonna move the ball from this side to

1491
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: that side. We're gonna build this action and then so

1492
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: Steph will start with it swing swing, and then we're

1493
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: gonna have an action. Steph, you're coming back to the

1494
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: top of the key, the floor spread and so now

1495
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: you can do your thing. You the open or we

1496
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: come back to the pick and roll. We got Draymond

1497
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: driving down the middle. We got the wings, you know,

1498
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: Clay on the back side. On the shake up, we

1499
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: got a corner guys ball side gonna be open, and

1500
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: then Draymond. You hit Draymond on the dive. And then

1501
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: we got to me. I'm in the dunker. I got

1502
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: a lob. So figure out what you're playing. Phon playing

1503
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: four and five on the backside.

1504
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: I can see it three right now, I can see

1505
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 2: it already.

1506
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: We got four and three, two, got two guys on staff,

1507
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: and then we got four and three in the backside,

1508
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: and then Spoe. A lot of the things that I

1509
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: do post careers like rooted in heat culture where it's

1510
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: like the end of the day. If you work harder

1511
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: than your opponent, the more likely you're gonna win. Now,

1512
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: there's some residuals to it you gotta watch out for,

1513
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: and you got to make sure you cover for. Because

1514
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: Steve was more like care free, you know, spear free.

1515
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna come in and listen to some music, great vibes.

1516
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: Steve was like, man, I want you to come here

1517
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: happy every single day, like this would be your escape.

1518
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 5: And the heat.

1519
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: Coature is like, nah, we're gonna make this the hardest

1520
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: possible situation. The game gonna be easy. We couldn't wait

1521
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: for the games, man, when it is, the game gonna come.

1522
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: The game is so.

1523
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 5: Much easier than practice.

1524
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: And so but one thing about Spoe is is probably

1525
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: the most prepared coach that I've ever seen.

1526
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: Yes, hell yeah, hell yeah.

1527
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 5: He's more detailed, more prepared to anybody.

1528
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: Hey, Dre, you talked a couple of things real quick.

1529
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: I know we've had you here for a long time,

1530
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: so I want to keep I want to keep asking

1531
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: some questions real quick. On that Golden State team. Can

1532
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: you talk about Steve Kerr when they when you guys,

1533
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: when when KD came over? Talk about that a little

1534
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: bit because obviously things change, right, you had the free

1535
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 3: flowing offense KD who to me one of the best scorers,

1536
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 3: about the best scorer ever ye in the league. Talk

1537
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 3: about how that, how that kind of changed things, and

1538
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 3: you know, showing his work and you talk about his

1539
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 3: his makes earlier when you were talking about Ai point

1540
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: like I've never seen a guy's workout so good in

1541
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: my life, Like Katie's workouts were elite. And I actually

1542
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: as an agent now I bring I try to bring

1543
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: my players around with kat will let me bring them

1544
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: around to work out with them, because to see where

1545
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: he's at in his career and how hard he works,

1546
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: it hasn't changed. So talk about how that, how that

1547
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: transition of him coming to the Golden State and kind

1548
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 3: of the backlash that he took a fair or unfair

1549
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: on some of that stuff.

1550
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: So we had a special group and like I go

1551
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: back to the Warriors, they Rowyors got this special thing

1552
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: for me and they you know, how do I feel

1553
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: about it?

1554
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 5: You know, who don't want to think And.

1555
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: I always say like if it wasn't for Steph Curry,

1556
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: none of this will happen. Like Steph Curry is the

1557
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,479
Speaker 1: reason why all of this happened, and I'm I'm and

1558
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, now you got to be careful for hot takes.

1559
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: And you know he thinks that Steph is better than

1560
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: Kat than Kat is better than Steph, so you careful

1561
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: of that. Like without Steph, none of this has happened

1562
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: just because of you know, Steph was there first. Whatever

1563
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: all that, we understand it, and that's all that matters.

1564
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: You just said it. Kad is the best basketball scorer

1565
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: of all time, most timesed the basketball player of all time.

1566
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: I've never seen nothing like this. But I also had

1567
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: to say, like Steph is the reason for all of it.

1568
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: But if you don't have Draymond who he is, if

1569
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: you don't have Clay who he is, if you don't

1570
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: have Me who I am, none of it happens either. Right,

1571
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: So we just had a special group, right, just like

1572
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: light and strike in the Bible. If the Miami he

1573
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: don't have you Miami, he can't do what they do.

1574
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: But only and we we are cool in our own

1575
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: because our peers get it, and that's all that matters

1576
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: to us. Oh no, no, no, they understand. As long as

1577
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: my peers get it. My peers get it.

1578
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 4: So with KD.

1579
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: I think, like, no one's really talked about this, but

1580
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: we understood that we had to protect Katie too, Like,

1581
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: don't let some folks come in here and try to,

1582
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, break us apart. Yes, you know, and and

1583
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: over time, you know, they keep chopping, chopping, chopping, chopping, chopping,

1584
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: they'll succeed at it, but we're gonna get what we

1585
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: gotta get before they do that. And so with Katie

1586
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: is like, man, let's make sure we take care of

1587
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: kat But we had a high IQ group all of

1588
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: us steph kat Clay, myself, so and Sean Livingston.

1589
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 5: I'm putting in there too, So me and Sean coming

1590
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 5: in the second group.

1591
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: Hey, man, let's make sure we get Clay his looks

1592
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: all right, But if Katie got to going move out

1593
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: the way, we know how to get KD his isoles,

1594
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: even though we're not an ISO team. So it's like,

1595
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: all right, we got an action, but boom, we know

1596
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: we know Katie got a miss Max. Okay, so swing swing,

1597
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: but like Harry up and get it to KD. Move

1598
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: the hell out the way, cause it's like and Katie

1599
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: so fishing.

1600
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 5: It wasn't even that hard though it wasn't hard, so

1601
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 5: Kate to his spots. It's okay, Kad gonna get twenty eight.

1602
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: He took thirteen shots. It was so he made our

1603
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: lives easier, but we wanted to make his life easier.

1604
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: And I think that is the epity me of what

1605
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: a championship championship team should look like. It's like everybody's

1606
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: trying to do it for each other. And so he

1607
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: would always says like, no, man, you ain't got to

1608
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: overfeed me. And I'm looking like, yes, we do, because like,

1609
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: for for one, we like watching you who and you

1610
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: know how it is like how we are, like it's

1611
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: hard for us to see.

1612
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 5: It's hard for you to see what d Wade is doing.

1613
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: It's hard for you to see what Lebron is doing

1614
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: because we're so focused on getting our job, Like we

1615
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: might miss Lebron dunk because it's all right, I had

1616
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: to set a screen and I'm not looking at the basket.

1617
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: So it was it was a special thing, and you know,

1618
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: we really had a good time.

1619
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 3: And and now for our too Easy segment, brought to

1620
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 3: you by Morgan and Morgan. Morgan and Morgan, for the

1621
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 3: people we always fight for you A great transition. Because

1622
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 3: another question I had for you was your starting five

1623
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: of all, you're using your teammates because you've had some

1624
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: dope pass teammates. Give me your starting five year teammates.

1625
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: Hell of five teammates.

1626
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: It's funny because you know who my favorite player as

1627
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: a kid was. It was Chris Webber.

1628
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: Wow, one of my favorite two as a kid.

1629
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: Chris Webber was my favorite five player.

1630
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: My favorite too.

1631
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: Chris Webber was my teammate when I was in Philly.

1632
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: He sure was when you know he had those he

1633
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: had those knee injuries.

1634
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: That it was was that when Derrick Koleban was there.

1635
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 5: Too, No I so I didn't play with Derek.

1636
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: Was there.

1637
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 5: Then DC came afterwards, so you know, no, d C

1638
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 5: was already long gone.

1639
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: Before it was before my old d C.

1640
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: Was long gone. So s Webb came with Matt Barnes.

1641
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: They came to the sixers, and so see Webb has

1642
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: some Sea web Knights. So but that version that Chris

1643
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: Webber wouldn't have made the cut. But like Chris Webber,

1644
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, yeah, oh my god, Chause,

1645
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: what was one of my favorites too? I mean it's

1646
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's the best of all time in

1647
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: terms of like, you know what they.

1648
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 5: Do AI, Steph, Clay KD.

1649
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because yeah, we we had

1650
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: some conversations about Steph and obviously, you know, Mark Jackson

1651
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 2: made it very clear early on who the man was.

1652
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: But talk about the maturation and the growth obviously of

1653
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: Clay and you being able to watch that firsthand, and

1654
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: then obviously the second part of it, as you know,

1655
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: he gets to get a little older, and you know,

1656
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: the tides turned a little bit, and we both understand

1657
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 2: that we've been both sides. We've been on the side

1658
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: of that where I had to make a decision either

1659
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: I move on and go play somewhere else or I

1660
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: sit here in that mentor the next generation Yep, you

1661
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And we all come to that point.

1662
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: You know, for me, people made a lot of jokes

1663
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: about it, but shit, sitting there mentoring that that next

1664
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: generation for me was fulfilling. Yeah, I got more out

1665
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: of that, you know what I'm saying than I would

1666
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: have gone somewhere else. So just talk about when you

1667
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 2: get to that point your career and obviously what Clay

1668
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: had to go through Yeah.

1669
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: So, like I said, I played against Clay. Clay was

1670
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: a rookie in that playoff series when I was in

1671
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: with the Nuggets, and so we were a matchup and

1672
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: I had my best statistical playoff series that series. So

1673
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: I was just in my bag, like you know what

1674
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: it's like to be NBA player, and you know, like

1675
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want, and I got confidence that's.

1676
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 2: Deadly, y'all know what that's like.

1677
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: I never had that, man, but you'm you never missed.

1678
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: He never missed from his spots.

1679
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, if I missed the media, the wind

1680
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: was blowing in that motherfucker.

1681
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So, like, you know what the

1682
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: confidence like as a shooter to be like, man, I'm

1683
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: never going to miss if I catch the ball right

1684
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: here and I'm over. Yeah, and so like I had

1685
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: a series like that, but Clay's guarding me. So I

1686
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, in the playoff series, you get to know

1687
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: somebody like I know you because I'm playing against you

1688
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: every single night and I'm scouting you, I'm watching your movements,

1689
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: I know the time you wake up. You know what

1690
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I got to know Clay, and I

1691
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: never forget that series. George Carl was like, Andre, you

1692
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: got to help off a little bit more. Don't be

1693
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: so stuck to Clay. And he's a rookie. But I'm like, nah,

1694
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: i'm watching a film fan. This dude different.

1695
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 5: I ain't.

1696
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't. This is the beginning of like that three

1697
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: point thing, because the three pointer wasn't like that back then.

1698
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, something, why this dude he don't

1699
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: even touch the ring when he makes shots and he's

1700
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: shooting it quick. So I'm seeing this early and I

1701
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: knew he could defend because he was guarding me. I'm like, man,

1702
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: I'm making I'm making my shots. But I'm like, yo,

1703
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 1: this dude can guard. I'm like, man, he can guard?

1704
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: Who is this light skinned dude? So when I get

1705
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: on the team. Mark Jackson already said that the top

1706
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: two shooters of all time. He already said it and

1707
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: everybody said he was crazy. But then I'm watching, I'm like, oh,

1708
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: this dude different. Then I'm running like, oh he can

1709
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: guard guard. We had him on Kyrie, Kyrie the baddest

1710
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: boy ever when it comes to handling that rock. And

1711
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: people get mad when I say that because I'm playing

1712
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: for the Warriors, but I don't care. Kyrie is the

1713
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: baddest boy with that ball. It's incredible. And so I'm

1714
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: seeing Clay being able to guard, I'm like, Clay different,

1715
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: and then I'm watching Clay shoot, and then I'm learning,

1716
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: Like you know, as we get older, I'm like, all right, Clay,

1717
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: make sure you watch out for this as you get older,

1718
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: because they gonna try to put this against you.

1719
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 5: Yes, you know what I mean.

1720
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: And so as you get older, we've been through it

1721
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: teammate that it's loyal to you when they don't when

1722
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: they think you're on the the dcline and so, and

1723
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: then you can we've been through it where it's taking

1724
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: it personally. You can get emotional about it. You know

1725
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: your people, you don't know what you're hearing at home.

1726
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: This person might be talking to you, but then the

1727
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: team they want to keep you, but they trying to

1728
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: use it against you. So you know, like that whole

1729
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: dynamic is super interesting. But for me, it's like you

1730
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: always want to tell the guys like, yo, just make

1731
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 1: sure you have your joy, yes, because the business part

1732
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: of the game can strip you of your joy, and

1733
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 1: that's what keeps you from staying in love with the

1734
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: game of basketball.

1735
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: People don't even know. I would have days, and we

1736
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: all been through this. I would have days, Bro, I

1737
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't leave my hotel room. And I ain't cutting the

1738
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: lights on right dog. I've been the dog all day, Bro,

1739
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: I have not left my room. I'm gonna use this

1740
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: day to recharge reevalue whatever I need to do, and

1741
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: then the next day I'll get up and go to

1742
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: shoot around and go to practice and get ready for

1743
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: the game. But today I ain't. I'm in the dog, bro,

1744
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: whether it's depression, whatever I'm dealing with today, I need

1745
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: to let this. I need to let these feelers play out.

1746
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 5: And Mike, you can go ahead do your thing. Don't worry.

1747
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 5: We got time.

1748
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to say this is like, you know,

1749
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: sometimes you have front office groups or people who are

1750
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: making decisions. And I'm not saying this is the Warriors.

1751
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying in general, because sometimes the front office ain't

1752
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: making decisions. And I'm not I'm not talking about a

1753
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: particular organization or anything, but I know this happens across

1754
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: the league where people who have never been in those situations,

1755
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: they don't understand, they can't understand those emotions that come

1756
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: from that. So they're saying like, oh, it's just a business,

1757
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: and this is how we got to run an organization

1758
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: in our business, Like, no, you don't understand everything that

1759
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: I put into the organization that I put into the

1760
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: Shield because them and I having a great relationship, Like

1761
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: I can be honest with him, he can be honest

1762
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: with me, and we know it's gonna stay between us.

1763
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: But I have to remind like folks and suits sometimes

1764
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: like no, like we build.

1765
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 5: The Shield, like we are the shield, like.

1766
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: We're the brand. And so the NBA does an amazing

1767
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: job of monetizing the game, like this last TV deal

1768
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: we got, it's crazy, and I know and I know

1769
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: how people are, Like people are saying, like, how can

1770
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: you pay athletes this much money? So what you want

1771
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: us to do? Not pay them where they're money gonna

1772
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: go if we don't give it to the athletes who

1773
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: were giving it to.

1774
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: They wanted to give us to them while they sit

1775
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: at home and complain.

1776
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: It's gonna go to it's gonna go to richer people,

1777
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: or it's gonna go to the athletes, Like pick a side, right,

1778
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: And it's not even.

1779
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: The TV companies or it's gonna go to us.

1780
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because y'all giving the money to the TV people

1781
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: and the TV people are given it to us, Like

1782
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: is this is how capitalism works? And it's open markets, right,

1783
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: And so the NBA, I'm going the NBA has done

1784
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: an amazing job of monetizing the shield. But the shield

1785
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: isn't what it is unless you have the talent behind it,

1786
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: which is the players. And so you're sitting in your

1787
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: dark room like that that's a real human experience, Like

1788
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: the people don't understand. And so sometimes when you're in

1789
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: negotiations and the teams are like, you know, how can

1790
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: the players reacting like this and it's a business, it's

1791
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: like nah, man like, like it extends well beyond you know,

1792
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: my time might be up whatever whatever. Like I put

1793
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: a lot into this shield, and that's why it's hard

1794
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: for gods to transition out because it feels like that

1795
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: door might be shut on you, you know what I'm saying.

1796
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: But we got some amazing things coming up that I'm

1797
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: really I'm really excited that it should be happening really

1798
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: soon of how we can continue to uplift each other,

1799
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: protect each other, and it's not about us versus the league,

1800
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: because it's been a really good partnership. Like Adam is

1801
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: doing this thing. We're in a good place. We got

1802
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: some things we know we gotta fix. We're gonna fix them.

1803
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: But as us as a brotherhood, we got a rise

1804
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: up to in handle lar business. Yes, you know what

1805
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and we can do that and we're gonna

1806
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: get it done.

1807
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 2: And what I will say about Adam is really quick.

1808
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 2: A couple of times I reached out to him to

1809
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: have a call with him, whether I've had questions, whether

1810
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 2: I've had ideas, He's always made time to answer my calls. Yeah,

1811
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: he always made time to jump on the call with me,

1812
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: whether it be you know, I'll get to I'll get

1813
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: with you later this week, we'll set up a call

1814
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: on Tuesday at four, or whether it be him texting

1815
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: me right back immediately. He's always made himself available, you

1816
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And for me, that was different

1817
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: because early on when David David was I was young,

1818
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to reach out to you know, nobody.

1819
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: I was doing my thing, you know what I'm saying.

1820
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 2: But once I got out of you know, that phase,

1821
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: and got into the older phase and the adult phase.

1822
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 2: He was very open you know what I'm saying, and

1823
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: having those conversations. So I actually love what he's doing.

1824
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: And I'm sure whatever's working and brewing for both sides,

1825
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: and what ain't working, we're working on. That's that's the

1826
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: one thing I want to remind her of too, all

1827
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:05,839
Speaker 2: of them, mind.

1828
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 5: Our players, because this is what I want to tell

1829
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 5: our players too.

1830
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: However we see or however we vision what the game

1831
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: should look like, we work, we can actually work with

1832
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: the league and do it. And so one thing we're

1833
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: used to is like everything happening like so fast, and

1834
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we should do this, and it's like

1835
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 1: all right, there's a process to it.

1836
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: And what I will say to this too, Drake, is

1837
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: don't just leave it up to the players Association and

1838
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 2: the owners and and think the players could take some

1839
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: accountability too.

1840
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: But I gotta be careful saying about that. I say

1841
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: it to him, I say it to him, and I

1842
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: say it to him privately.

1843
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 2: Is my whole my whole fucking career, I've helped motherfuckers accountable.

1844
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 2: You get mad at me all you want, I'm gonna

1845
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 2: tell you the truth because I want us to win

1846
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: and I want what's best for you. So at the

1847
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm coming to the players telling

1848
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: them the truth. Y'all got to sell some accountability to

1849
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: They ain't just on the fucking owners, and they ain't

1850
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: just on the fucking players Association. They got accept some

1851
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: accountability too, you know what I'm saying, Being fucking available

1852
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 2: plan when you when you are out there, not getting

1853
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: mad because the shit ain't going your way and all

1854
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: that bullshit the ship that we see now, so players

1855
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: gott accept some accountability too, bro, that shit go all

1856
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: the way around. I ain't choosing no motherfucker side now.

1857
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: I am a player on our entire player but I

1858
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 2: want the ship to work for everybody. So there's got

1859
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: to be accountability on every fucking body.

1860
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: And I think it's you get to see you get

1861
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: a clearer vision when you're done playing, yes, because you

1862
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: can kind of see like, okay, you know, like the

1863
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: NBA can go overboard with certain requirements. I've been on

1864
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: a once, you're on.

1865
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 5: A championship team you want a championship.

1866
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: Team, or you've been with on team with Lebron, you

1867
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: can see how you work more than other teams in

1868
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: the league. You got more obligations, and you're like, hold on, man, Like,

1869
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: my checks are actually the same as everybod else is.

1870
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: But I'm doing my work like yeah, and that's how

1871
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: you should be thinking, because I'm like, wait, how am

1872
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: I spending more money on tickets for my own games?

1873
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: Every road game I'm on, Like when I played with

1874
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: the Sixers and we went to play Memphis, Man got

1875
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 1: some cour side seats for like two hundred dollars.

1876
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 4: Hey hey, hey, hey, hey hey, slow down, man.

1877
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: This is the old Memphis. I love them boys down

1878
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: and now. And I should have said another team because

1879
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: people Charlotte, Charlotte two hundred dollars Memphis mad at you. Yeah,

1880
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: But I had a dope conversation with Zach this GM

1881
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: over there. We finally spoke good, great conversation, and Jared's

1882
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: my guy. I had to talk to him like ten times.

1883
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: He's smart. Ket love Jaron. But like, but then I

1884
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: get to the Warriors every road game, I'm like, bro,

1885
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm playing a thousand dollars for you know, some road thirties,

1886
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: Like every game, Like, yo, how am I being punished

1887
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: because I'm succeeding? But as a player, you see it

1888
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: one way, but on the other side, now I see it.

1889
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, all right, so I should have a

1890
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: gripe about it, but I'm going to approach it a

1891
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: different way and I can actually get something done about it.

1892
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: And so for me, it's just trying to educate the guys, like,

1893
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: all right, fellas, let's learn the business. Because there are

1894
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: some obligations to the business. Yes, there are certain things

1895
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: that we got to do as professional athletes and when

1896
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: we got to show up a certain way so you

1897
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: can do your thing, have fun, but we still gotta

1898
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: we still got to do things we may not want

1899
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: to do. And that's what MJ bird because we don't

1900
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: want to make a generational but every generation has done it,

1901
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: and we got to continue to carry, you know, the shield,

1902
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: and we got to continue to carry that tradition of

1903
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: take care of your generation and then pass it on

1904
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: to the next.

1905
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 3: And this next segment is brought to you by DraftKings

1906
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 3: Hey Dre. Before we let you go, I got to

1907
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,520
Speaker 3: ask one more question though, out of curiosity. Okay, we

1908
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 3: you've guarded from Lebron to Kobe to Mellow to Katie.

1909
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's time.

1910
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 4: Him, give me your top five defenders of all time. Man,

1911
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 4: I want to hear who he had to defend, or defenders,

1912
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 4: the defenders, defenders.

1913
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 3: You had to guard these guys, So we talk about

1914
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 3: accountability and lowlands.

1915
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 4: Defending is a.

1916
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: Lonely spot, Yes it is.

1917
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 4: Don't know about it, but I've heard about it.

1918
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: Back in the day, boy, because when you touched on

1919
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 2: earlier in the NBA when there's a lot of isolations,

1920
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 2: you remember at that time, if you couldn't God, yo,

1921
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 2: I couldn't play, because they'll really throw it to your

1922
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: man every single time intil the coach took you out.

1923
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: Remember when we first got the league and I got set.

1924
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: Down to picking rolls and somebody else taking the rod

1925
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: man and you getting out. No motherfucker, we're gonna go

1926
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: at you every time to your coach take you out.

1927
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't. I can't criticize players anymore, right,

1928
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: you know. It's just a generation we live in. But

1929
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: it was a time where if you couldn't get a stop,

1930
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: you did not play.

1931
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: Sit on over here, don't worry about it.

1932
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: I've been in the game with some sharp shooters, and man,

1933
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: go at him until they take him out. Hey, man,

1934
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: you gotta go out the game, fam, I don't you

1935
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: gotta come out with him, man and ugly out here right,

1936
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: and so my top five defenders of all time?

1937
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 5: Hm, I love that question.

1938
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 1: Damn. I got a bunch of names.

1939
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: It's a good question right there.

1940
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: Actually, Mookie Blaylock, Mookie, yeah, pick up yeah, because he

1941
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: let the league and steals for nah. I don't know

1942
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: if I'm picking Mookie or John Stockton because John stock

1943
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: don't coach.

1944
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: He only got five though.

1945
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: I know, okay, I'm a hold on a point guard.

1946
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: So I know, I know for sure I got Scottie.

1947
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: I got Scotti one hundred percent for sure. I got Man.

1948
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: I gotta put a Keem up there, man. Keem got

1949
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: a quad.

1950
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 5: Keem got a quad quadruple double.

1951
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: That's nasty.

1952
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: Keen. Keen was different. I never say I'm really good

1953
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: at something. I always say like I'm not worthy of

1954
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: none of that. I was really good at defense, but

1955
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not.

1956
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1957
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: Definitely no, no, because I was really good at defense,

1958
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 1: Like I was really good. Lou Williams. Lou Williams, shout

1959
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: out to Lou. He gave me a compliment. One time

1960
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: during the game, I lost I lost sight of my

1961
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: guy back door back door cut and I lost him

1962
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: and he was gone, Like I was off in space,

1963
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: and Lou was like, Yo, don't worry about it. I

1964
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 1: got you. And I got there before Lou, and Lou

1965
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: was over there with him. And after the game. After

1966
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: the game, Lou was like, man, I know they be

1967
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: talking that defensive ship about you, FAM, Like I ain't

1968
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: really get it. I ain't really get that difference. He

1969
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: was like, Fam, that I don't need to see nothing else.

1970
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: He was like, I never seen nothing like that before.

1971
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, what you mean? He was like, he

1972
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: was like, Fam, I ain't never seen that in my life.

1973
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: He was like, you really one of the best defenders

1974
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I was like, I appreciate that, Fam.

1975
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 5: I'm not putting myself Scottie ha keen.

1976
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: I gotta give it.

1977
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 5: To John Stockton.

1978
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: Arm I'm lying, you know, I'm putting there. Chris Paul,

1979
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: Who I like it? Chris Paul. Chris Paul.

1980
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Chris Paul was like that aggravating motherfucker boy, Man, Chris

1981
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Paul is picking you up. Yeah, yeah, I can see

1982
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,879
Speaker 2: how Oh.

1983
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 5: Because he's the best defender of all time to me,

1984
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 5: Dennis Rob me.

1985
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: That motherfuckers to get on my nerves all in the head, damn.

1986
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 2: So come on, just play the game. So come on,

1987
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 2: just leave my love.

1988
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Because he can beach, he can guard anybody. He was

1989
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: he was guarding magic. He's picking the magic up for court,

1990
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: anybody picking a magical court. And then he was guarding Shack.

1991
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Yes, I agree.

1992
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: We ain't never Dennis Robin can guard Shack. And then

1993
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: this time and then he'll switch out on a I

1994
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: we ain't never seen that ever ahead of time. We

1995
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: ain't never seen that one through ever.

1996
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 2: He was one through five before there was ever.

1997
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: Yes, and then I gotta show love to the because

1998
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: he don't get enough love. Tim Duncan, he no five

1999
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: name five. So because I had, I had, I had

2000
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: the Keem Scottiett, Chris Paul, Dennis Rob, Dennis Rob. And

2001
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: then nah, I'm taking Tim Duncan out because that I'm

2002
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: tripping because coach cursed us out a halftime every time

2003
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: he played this team, and he said, y'are playing like

2004
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: some some p words.

2005
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm trying not to curse.

2006
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 1: He said, you're playing like some pussies, he said, this

2007
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: is I'm I'm quoting, so this is not me. Y'are

2008
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: playing like some pussies. Y'all scared to go to paint.

2009
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: We had y'all scared to go into paint here, everybody

2010
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: scared of going to paint. Man and him and shot

2011
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: going at it right now? Oh, Dwight, Amen, no listen,

2012
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something. A man that motherfucker first

2013
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: came into the league. We hadn't seen nothing like that.

2014
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: Amen.

2015
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 2: The athleticism strong as ox to. I gotta yeah, yeah,

2016
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: he was different.

2017
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna watch it as an impossible question because

2018
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 3: you still gotta think about Ben Wallace.

2019
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 4: Round our test, you.

2020
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 5: Like, run our test, run our test, Draymond, Yeah.

2021
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 1: Like round round was different.

2022
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: Yes, ron Ron round was different.

2023
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: But like I saw Scotty do something that never been

2024
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: done before. Chris paul On definitely don't get enough credit.

2025
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman might be the best defensive player of all time. Man,

2026
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 1: that was crazy. And then the King was just people

2027
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know how good a king was. Like the King

2028
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: was different, like and then Dwight like, yeah, man was bad.

2029
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 4: That's a good five right there. That's a good five man.

2030
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 4: We appreciate you.

2031
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,879
Speaker 2: Put that fire out. Hold on, you're in a player association.

2032
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to put that that fire out between

2033
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Shack and Dwight.

2034
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 5: Now I ain't I learned, don't take on battles.

2035
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: You ain't got to take them. Now, I'm straight. That's

2036
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: not a prerecordsit like I don't have to do that,

2037
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: like no man, because the other fire's fires down in Miami.

2038
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this

2039
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: because our teams just our teams just well you've been

2040
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 2: with the Heat before, but the Heat and Golden State

2041
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 2: just played against each other. The Heat that ass shout

2042
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: out to the Heat. But let me ask you this,

2043
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: both of us, both of franchises, where are they now?

2044
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 2: And what would you like to see? Oh that's a

2045
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,879
Speaker 2: good question because because both of these franchises about winning championship.

2046
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Let's make the mistake about it. These franchises about winning championship.

2047
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 2: They got the coaches that are proven to be able

2048
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 2: to do it. What do you see both of both

2049
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: of them? Matter, what you would you like to see? Well?

2050
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 2: And I know you got to be me too. I

2051
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: got a tip to it.

2052
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: I got a ship. So I gotta yeah, just be

2053
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: just be vanilla cartoon tiptoe, just be vanilla with it.

2054
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 5: Both both teams got to make moves.

2055
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: Both teams got to make a move, and they got

2056
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: a strategic I read the article this morning. The worst

2057
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: thing that can happen to the Heat is if they

2058
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: don't make the player because what's happening to their unprotected

2059
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: first round picks? And then now I'm like, Okay, put

2060
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: your gim hat on. I'm like, oh, I never like

2061
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: those unprotected pick things out in ten years, Like I

2062
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 1: never really understood those things. But now I'm starting to see.

2063
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, Like, they got to make the playoffs right,

2064
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: and then it's just a tough situation there the Warriors,

2065
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, with the Warriors situation, you know, you hear

2066
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: a lot of noise around. Steph is one of them ones.

2067
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: Why you don't try to move on?

2068
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: You gotta be smoking fish. I ain't said you got

2069
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about Steph moving on? No, but

2070
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 2: people people say that, people say a lot of bunch

2071
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 2: of dumb shit.

2072
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 5: Well, but but I mean, I'm trying to stay out

2073
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 5: of it.

2074
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 2: I get it. I trying to understand so it's like,

2075
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 2: I do I get it, open up money, but that motherfucker,

2076
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 2: like you said when you got generational mother, no motherfucker,

2077
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 2: he stays here.

2078
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the team is saying that. But

2079
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 1: it's like you get caught in the middle. You know

2080
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Do you move on or do you

2081
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 1: go all out for him?

2082
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 5: Or do you plan for the future? You know, I know,

2083
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I got my opinion.

2084
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 2: But that man get to land his own plane.

2085
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, in my opinion. You know, in my opinion too,

2086
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: like my opinion, I don't have to I don't have

2087
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 1: to hide. I don't have to hide my opinion.

2088
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 2: That man get to land his own plan. Yeah. So

2089
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 2: it's I might right if you don't get to land

2090
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 2: his own plane. And I ain't got shit to do

2091
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,640
Speaker 2: with Golden State or said none of that, but that

2092
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 2: man get to land his own plane.

2093
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: So both And he's never been the type of he's like,

2094
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 1: he's never been the type of player that says, you know,

2095
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: do this, do that, Like he's like, whatever you give me,

2096
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna work with and we're gonna

2097
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: figure it out. Like he's always been that type. But

2098
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: both teams got to make a move, and I'm wishing

2099
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: nothing but the best for both of them.

2100
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 5: Tyler Hero was Tyl Hero, no grease right now. Tyler

2101
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 5: been doing his thing.

2102
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: So that's one of the guys I've been happy, like,

2103
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't get to watch a lot

2104
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: of basketball, but I pay attention to certain things.

2105
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, Tyler, I.

2106
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 2: See if you know Tyler, you're happy for telephons. You

2107
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 2: understand what Tyler goes through. For what he's accomplished. Six

2108
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: Man of the Year, been to the finals twice, averaging

2109
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 2: twenty off the bench. For what he's accomplished, he really

2110
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 2: don't get his flowers like he should. He's accomplished in

2111
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 2: six years. So I'm happy for him.

2112
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 1: See him put like a thirty couple of thirty people

2113
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: in the thirty balls consistently. I'm like, boss cut Hero

2114
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: a bad but fuck oh, Tier you time to go

2115
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: get thirty real quick then, like we know it's coming,

2116
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: like we ain't got to like, Okay, you're having a

2117
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: good name, bad night.

2118
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: You ain't the cold his white boll I know no more.

2119
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 3: It's okay, I still funk with you, you know, Okay,

2120
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 3: talking about smoking cold white man.

2121
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 4: Listen, man, you gotta listen. You gott you got listen.

2122
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 2: If a motherfucker, if they don't let that man laying

2123
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 2: his own playing in Golden State, they tripping, I don't

2124
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 2: given what.

2125
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 4: You I agree code.

2126
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 2: Whatever the fuck they smoking, they ain't good. Whatever they

2127
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 2: whatever they smoking, it ain't good. If they don't let

2128
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 2: that man land his on playing. They tripping, we.

2129
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: Start talking talking about smoking.

2130
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 3: Man, it's time for the old Jesus. The clock out dry.

2131
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming in, big dog.

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01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 2: Listen, man, I'm just being honest a man.

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01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming in out.

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Speaker 1: My mama, but my my, my, mom.

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Speaker 4: My, mom

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Speaker 3: My, ma