WEBVTT - Justin Parsons

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to

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<v Speaker 1>you every Wednesday. This week's guest Justin Parsons. Justin's been

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<v Speaker 1>on the pod before, but we had to get him

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<v Speaker 1>back on this week coming off the Open Championship that

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Harmon won. JP is the coach of Brian Harmon.

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<v Speaker 1>We shared a house last week not far from Hoylake

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a very very It was a really

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<v Speaker 1>special experience for me JP and I. He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my closest friends and you know, someone who I have

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of respect for, and we just huddled in,

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<v Speaker 1>we we cooked, we ordered in food, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really really special week. And to see

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Harmon get it done and to see JP be

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<v Speaker 1>part of a major championship is it's pretty special. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hired JP. I moved to Dubai in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight and met him on a couple of trips

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<v Speaker 1>and just I just I just he had something and

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<v Speaker 1>I sent him a message. I was pretty tough on

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<v Speaker 1>him in the beginning when he worked for He worked

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<v Speaker 1>for me for three years, and then when I left

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<v Speaker 1>and moved to the US, he took over the running

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<v Speaker 1>of the academy that we had at the L's Club,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was pretty hard on him, and uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>were some tough times at the beginning, but I sent

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<v Speaker 1>him a message on Sunday night that now he knows

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<v Speaker 1>why I was so hard on him, because I just

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<v Speaker 1>knew that he he could do what he's done and

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<v Speaker 1>and that has become one of the best golf instructors

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. So really excited to get an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to him again. And I think everybody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy it. So sit back and enjoy listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Parsons. So justin your first major championship as a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it? Was it different than you thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be? And what's the last forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>hours been?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you texted me and told me to

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<v Speaker 3>walk around the room and keep breathing, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>actually kind of helped because I think at one point

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<v Speaker 3>I was setting hence not breathing, which isn't you know

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<v Speaker 3>as you approach our tender years, it's not a good

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<v Speaker 3>way to be blood pressure spiking.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was nerve wracking, plod I you know, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>really relax until he got the ball into the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of that seventeenth green. I think he was he's in

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<v Speaker 3>too good a space to hit to do anything silly

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<v Speaker 3>down the last, but that's seventeenth hole, Like you could

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<v Speaker 3>nearly make anything there if you've got you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you've got something wrong off the tee and got some

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<v Speaker 3>bad lies and you know, you and I saw it

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<v Speaker 3>was like out there, it was it was carnage waiting

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<v Speaker 3>to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's a very interesting player, you know. He he

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<v Speaker 1>does so many things well, but he's never been thought

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<v Speaker 1>of as a superstar. But if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>JP from an amateur standpoint up until Brian Harmon turned pro,

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<v Speaker 1>he basically did everything that you would say would be

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<v Speaker 1>the prototype to becoming a superstar on the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>and having, you know, a Hall of Fame type career

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<v Speaker 1>based off of what he did as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>junior golfer, as an amateur golfer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, you and your dad have always helped

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<v Speaker 3>me with that. Like, you know, you want to see

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<v Speaker 3>what a player's really capable of. Who did he beat

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<v Speaker 3>when he was fourteen? How many people was he beaten

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<v Speaker 3>when he was eighteen, How was he as an amateur?

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<v Speaker 3>What was he like in college? And as you've just said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Brian was an absolute superstar, you know, really

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<v Speaker 3>all the way through those ranks. I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as I've gotten to know him, his inquisitive, very fast

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<v Speaker 3>acting mind has probably done him as slight the service

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<v Speaker 3>and he's had to work very hard. And you probably

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<v Speaker 3>listened with interest to a lot of his press stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>you know about the process and staying in the process

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<v Speaker 3>and things. And the weird thing is, you know, Scott

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<v Speaker 3>Tway Country and I have been you know, gently trying

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<v Speaker 3>to quiet in those appreciour routines, done a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, adding structure to the warm ups, doing all

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that we know that are going to

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<v Speaker 3>end up kind of calming the player downing. And for

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<v Speaker 3>whatever reason, the Open Championship he embraced all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And he made it, you know, like you and I

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<v Speaker 3>talk about, he made it his idea and he was

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<v Speaker 3>able to execute.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been lucky enough to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of major championships with players before, and I can never

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<v Speaker 1>put my finger jp on what's different about them that week.

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<v Speaker 1>But we spend so much time around these players. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we devote so much of our lives to them and

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<v Speaker 1>and in a lot of ways, I always say tour

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<v Speaker 1>players sometimes are like dogs. They communicate with you non verbally.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see when they're in good moods. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell you. You can see when they're in bad moods.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see when things are all Was there anything

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<v Speaker 1>different about Brian last week that's been different than times

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<v Speaker 1>when he hasn't won a big tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>There was definitely some sort of psychological shift, There's no

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<v Speaker 3>no question about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>We we've done some things at the back end of

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<v Speaker 3>last year to try and assist and then Brian that

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<v Speaker 3>the Renaissance Club started taking ice bats, which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of research and it's a very popular

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<v Speaker 3>little thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>You see people you know all all over, from Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Rogan to other members of the you know, the sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the mainstream, you know, advising that that's a great

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<v Speaker 3>thing for you know, athletic recovery, getting yourself into the

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<v Speaker 3>right head space, being resilient.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was weird. I said to again, I said

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<v Speaker 2>the country on Friday after he shot that low run,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, Brian's had a bit of an

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<v Speaker 2>aura about him in the last two weeks and we

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<v Speaker 2>started discussing or and without getting to Yogic, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he definitely started to there was a very much more

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<v Speaker 2>of a calmness surrounding him that was different to some

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<v Speaker 2>of the things in the past. And we had, you know, really.

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<v Speaker 3>Good conversations, a lot of humor of Renaissance and and

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<v Speaker 3>lots of fun on the on the range really at

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<v Speaker 3>Liverpool too. So yeah, I mean, it's it's a very

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<v Speaker 3>hard thing to pinpoint. I'm glad that you referenced to

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<v Speaker 3>her players as dogs and I didn't, but they they

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<v Speaker 3>are a you know, they're an incredible They're they're incredible

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<v Speaker 3>people at what they do. They do things that we've

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<v Speaker 3>always kind of in the game, you know, many of

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<v Speaker 3>us wanted to do and they do it at an

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<v Speaker 3>extremely high level under the greatest of pressure. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure I'm just like you that I'm kind of in

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<v Speaker 3>awe of them when they're able to deliver those big performances.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned playing. I mean, you grew up wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be a player, Ricky. We were flying home. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a ride home with Brooks from Liverpool, and Ricky Elliot,

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<v Speaker 1>who caddies for Brooks, was on the plane and we

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<v Speaker 1>were when you won. We were talking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, justin you know, I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Ricky. You and Ricky have known each other pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much your whole lives. You played junior golf together and

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to be a player. Did you ever envision

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<v Speaker 1>when you were younger growing up in Northern Ironland and

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<v Speaker 1>playing playing in these am your tournaments, and playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the rain and and all the things that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through in Northern Ireland, did you ever let

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<v Speaker 1>your mind wander to one day coaching and coaching someone

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<v Speaker 1>that that wins the Open Championship and lifts a claric

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<v Speaker 1>jog No.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that probably happened a bit later. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know it was. It was never massively part of your

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<v Speaker 2>like professional story. You weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>You weren't in a position where you ever really wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to do And I think I think had I been knew,

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<v Speaker 3>I think if I was around the people and the

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<v Speaker 3>players that you were around, it would it would have

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<v Speaker 3>quickly occurred to me that I wasn't good enough to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. You know, you're you're growing up watching you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Greg Norman and Davis Love and people hit golf shots,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're you know, you're probably immediately aware that I

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<v Speaker 3>can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just so. I think we were a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in dream in dreamland before before the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>and all of the information that we have. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly it's a I wouldn't say it's that. I think when,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, you join a very illustrious club. Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Harman joined in the illustrious club to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be able to be a part of a team of

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<v Speaker 3>individuals who assisted a player to win a major championship.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's not that many people like that around,

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<v Speaker 3>so I can't say that it would have been a

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<v Speaker 3>frontal kind of goal. But you know, to see it happen,

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<v Speaker 3>it just makes it. It makes it even more weird.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Brian sent me a text last night. They

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<v Speaker 3>left Liverpool at three am Monday morning. They got to Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he must have texted me from the plane

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<v Speaker 3>in Paris and he said, I'm afraid to go to

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<v Speaker 3>sleep because it might wake up and it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's I mean, that's amazing. I mean, what are

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<v Speaker 1>it is? I mean when we were texting, I was

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane. We're somewhere over the Atlantic, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were looking online. The Internet was kind of sporadic,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brooks was saying, you know, we we were counting

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<v Speaker 1>down the holes and Brooks was saying, Okay, if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets through here, he's fine. And then once once he

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<v Speaker 1>made that long pot at fourteen, I was looking online

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<v Speaker 1>and I said to Brooks, I said, he just hold

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<v Speaker 1>it from forty feet on fourteen and Brooke said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's game over now, he said, because he's got two

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<v Speaker 1>far fives coming up. And even if something disastrous happens

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<v Speaker 1>at seventeen, he built such a big lead. I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the impressive things JP he slept on a

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<v Speaker 1>five shot lead two nights in a row, which is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to do. And we stayed together last week

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<v Speaker 1>in the house and we were talking about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we were overdosing on curry and red wine

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<v Speaker 1>for the week, but you know we talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>and you kept asking me questions. I mean, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday night you were saying, you know, what's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's going to happen. Who's the threat. I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>the big lead, it's tough, and it's at catch twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two of the big lead is great, but the big

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<v Speaker 1>league can go quickly and be over in two holes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what was really impressive is he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get off to great starts either Saturday or so, but

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<v Speaker 1>as the rounds went on, he really seemed to calm

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<v Speaker 1>down and almost play his way into good golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think you're probably right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think the advice that you gave me

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<v Speaker 3>on Friday night, when you know Jeremy Elliott, who's who

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<v Speaker 3>was there all week with with Brian, he he had

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<v Speaker 3>texted me and said.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what am I going to do now?

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<v Speaker 3>With with Brian until three point thirty on Saturday, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a really late tea time, and you know, I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>should I look up museums, go for a walk of

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<v Speaker 3>the beach, you know, do two work? And you just

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<v Speaker 3>said to me, you know, having having had experience of this, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to tell him that this is the way

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<v Speaker 3>it is at the Open champmanship. Jack Nicholas has done it,

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<v Speaker 3>Tiger's done it, Louie's done it. The boys that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they've had that tea time, and they've had they've had

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<v Speaker 3>to accept that this is part of part of what

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<v Speaker 3>it is to be one of the few people who

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<v Speaker 3>could even have claimed to ever get close to winning

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<v Speaker 3>an open chapmanship. And and whether or not Jeremy passed

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<v Speaker 3>on that or whether or not that they embraced it,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll find out you later. But I thought that was

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<v Speaker 3>great advice because you have to embrace it. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to look at it full in the face and say, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to take this on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he did take it on, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and the rest of its history. But I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>He you know, if anything, the brain was probably moving

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<v Speaker 3>pretty quickly the first two or three holes and as

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<v Speaker 3>he got into his process, and you know, as he

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<v Speaker 3>got through it, you know, you and I talked a

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<v Speaker 3>wee bit about the fact that, like he's his iron

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<v Speaker 3>play has been something that we've we've been improving, I

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<v Speaker 3>think fairly steadily over two years. And I think Link's

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<v Speaker 3>golf really helps him because it makes him get on

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<v Speaker 3>top of the golf ball and makes him drive the

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<v Speaker 3>golf ball out a bit more and be a bit

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<v Speaker 3>more aggressive with a strike. He's you know Jack Glunkan

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<v Speaker 3>who was in my thoughts a lot over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Jack always said, never let Brian help the

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<v Speaker 2>ball up in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, because he's not the longest player, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>hit it way up into the sky. And then mechanically

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<v Speaker 3>if he ever starts to try and help it up

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<v Speaker 3>in the air, it really you know, it puts him

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<v Speaker 3>in a bad spot with his you know, with his

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<v Speaker 3>pivot and with you know where the golf club starts

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<v Speaker 3>to get delivered from.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think link skof really helps.

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<v Speaker 3>And we saw him play well at some nundrews and

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<v Speaker 3>you know he quieted himself doing I think he had

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<v Speaker 3>that strike on it and he was deep in his

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<v Speaker 3>process and he showed the world what he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the process, and we talked about that at night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the house last week. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was asking you what you were trying to do. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us JP, what the process that you and his caddie,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Tway, whose brother is Bob Tway, who won a

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<v Speaker 1>major championship. I think you know Scott. Everybody calls him

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<v Speaker 1>country on tour. I think Scott's a calming influence for Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is what is the process? And and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that that you've talked a lot about one of

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<v Speaker 1>the keys is alignment and having consistent alignment. And in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, there aren't any Instagram golfer influencer people

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<v Speaker 1>doing videos on alignment right they're they're not doing any

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<v Speaker 1>videos and on grip, posture, stance, alignment. But so much

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<v Speaker 1>of what goes into great golf at the elite, elite level,

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<v Speaker 1>I think people will be surprised that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times it is the basic, basic fundamentals that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to look after. And you talked a lot about the alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk me through what you've done with his alignment, what

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<v Speaker 1>the tendencies were, and how you've helped him kind of

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<v Speaker 1>create a consistent alignment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, first and foremost, it's like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you and I talk about those tendencies. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 3>been I watching him at tournaments, watching him on practice rhymes,

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<v Speaker 3>and when he aims too far to the right and

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<v Speaker 3>he ends up like underturning, because he's already a little restricted.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a very very square trail foot, if you

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<v Speaker 3>can imagine, So he's already restricted underturns, has a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of lateral movement, and his down swing club then gets

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit underneath and he has to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>tran and swing it out towards the target, so he

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<v Speaker 3>loses all his kind of rotary pressure on.

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<v Speaker 2>The golf ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's so that I can do all that

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram when people would love that. But the fact

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<v Speaker 3>is that that comes from him aiming too far to

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<v Speaker 3>the right, so and then.

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<v Speaker 1>And unless you fix the aim, you can work on

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<v Speaker 1>the other stuff. And that's what I don't think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people listening understand that. The domino effect of

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<v Speaker 1>what is all the things that you talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that's a golf nerd loves to hear, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lateral slide, club laying down all of that. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>all the effects. They're not the cause, they're not the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why he's hitting the bad shots. The bad shots

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<v Speaker 1>come from the alignment gets off and then the domino

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<v Speaker 1>effect of everything else. He has to do what he

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<v Speaker 1>has to do. My dad is always you and I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this to you a million times. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we work together back in the day in Dubai.

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<v Speaker 1>You're never doing what you're doing in the golf swing

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to. You're doing it because you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. So the alignment, how did you get

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<v Speaker 1>him to buy into being a consistent you know alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's been some great pictures on Instagram, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on social to where there's a shaft for his foot

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<v Speaker 1>line and then there's a shaft kind of in between

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<v Speaker 1>his feet for his ball position. Was that something that

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<v Speaker 1>that you implemented and came up with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we did.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we had we've had variations of that over

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of years, with the shoft on the

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<v Speaker 3>ground like you've described, the horizontal for the ball position,

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<v Speaker 3>and another shaft just to the to the left of

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<v Speaker 3>target as it would be. And he's always having us

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<v Speaker 3>because his tendency would be to start it too far

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<v Speaker 3>to the left, so as he starts at more to

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<v Speaker 3>the right, then he starts to get.

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<v Speaker 2>A feel of getting on top of it and keeping

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<v Speaker 2>good pressure on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that more recently he's really double back

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<v Speaker 3>onto that right. I'm going to do that in every

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<v Speaker 3>single session, and I see you see golf alignment I

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<v Speaker 3>think is extremely difficult. I think you're you're aiming at

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<v Speaker 3>targets that are different distances in front of you. You're

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<v Speaker 3>hitting golf shots with clubs that are different lengths, You're

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<v Speaker 3>standing with different distances from the golf ball, and the

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<v Speaker 3>golf balls land on the ground in front of you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's it's a constant training of the eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>And the best players that I've certainly worked for, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say have a much more acute understanding and awareness

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<v Speaker 3>and respect for alignment than the rest of us do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think part of Brand's, part of brand structure,

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<v Speaker 3>part of his journey, has been to understand that we

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<v Speaker 3>had a really interesting little thing that happened last year,

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<v Speaker 3>not this year. Last year at Health and Head he

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<v Speaker 3>was on that eighth hole, you'd probably notice like a

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<v Speaker 3>par four, there's a hazard on the right. Second shot,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a tree, and he realized that he could kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like close the face a little bit and stay

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<v Speaker 3>aiming pretty square and then hit like what we'd call

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<v Speaker 3>a pressure cut, and he hit one shot, and that

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<v Speaker 3>one shot resulted in him playing really really good golf

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<v Speaker 3>for about I'm going to say most of the summer

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<v Speaker 3>of last year, und of the fall, because he finally

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<v Speaker 3>understood that he didn't have to open up way to

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<v Speaker 3>the right in his case to cut it. He could

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stay pretty square and cover it and get

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<v Speaker 3>on top of it. And you know, we went he

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<v Speaker 3>went away from it a little bit, took a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of time off over Christmas, and then gradually we feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we've been piecing it all together, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the process has been really good. He uses that DST

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<v Speaker 3>the Bendy Club, which helps people kind of do the

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<v Speaker 3>same type of thing. He gets his alignment really well structured.

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<v Speaker 3>He uses a smart ball between his arms from time

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<v Speaker 3>to time just to soften that early set that he

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<v Speaker 3>has in his takeaway, and that makes him very kind

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<v Speaker 3>of pivot driven, and you know, he's got a really

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<v Speaker 3>good engine when.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets it. When he gets it, going and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you could see like people think.

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<v Speaker 3>He's obviously he's not six foot five, but he's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's still in and around with a waterproof suit on

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<v Speaker 3>cruise in about one hundred and sixty seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty eight miles an hour of ball speed, which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's not what DJ can do, and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>what Rory can do.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he's hitting driver more often than a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other players, and he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Very comfortable doing that. And when you combine that with

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<v Speaker 3>a putting performance he put in he was unstoppable one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred and forty two and driving distance going into the week.

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<v Speaker 1>He's five six weighs about one hundred and fifty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I read and I saw some things that mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he hits So there are a lot of players,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, DJ, Rory, the bombers, you know, the big

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<v Speaker 1>big bombers. They can't hit driver everywhere they're hitting you know,

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<v Speaker 1>driving irons or hitting three woods. But I saw and

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that he hits driver a lot. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like him hitting driver a lot plays into a

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<v Speaker 1>strength for him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it plays into a great strength for him,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you know there are golf courses that

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<v Speaker 3>we go to through the year where we almost know

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<v Speaker 3>that Brian has a competitive advantage with that, Like the

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<v Speaker 3>seventeenth hole of Travelers. He has a competitive advantage there

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<v Speaker 3>because he aims at down that left or off draws

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<v Speaker 3>it three hundred dish down the middle and hits a wedge,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of guys are hitting four iron off

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<v Speaker 3>that tee. It does the same at healthon.

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<v Speaker 2>Head hits hits driver an awful lot more hits driver

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<v Speaker 2>down four at the Players Championship in sawgrass and hits

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<v Speaker 2>a log wedge, and a lot of guys are hitting

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<v Speaker 2>hybrids or long arms on that tea.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a big advantage if you can stand up

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<v Speaker 1>on holes like that and hit driver where everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>because then if you miss. The other thing is if

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<v Speaker 1>you if he's hitting driver where everyone else is hitting

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, three wood iron, if he hits the fairway

0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:52.639
<v Speaker 1>and they miss the fairway with a four iron, now

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<v Speaker 1>they're miles back and they're hitting it out of the rough.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is a distinct competitive advantage there. I have

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<v Speaker 3>not I would say that he's been a really elite

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<v Speaker 3>level driver of the golf ball for a long long time,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, really since he went on tour and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, country let him, lets him go with the driver.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think with the speed he's he's very rarely like

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<v Speaker 3>one rep max speed with his driver.

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<v Speaker 2>He's extremely versatile.

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<v Speaker 3>He tees a lot of them low hits, little squeezers hits,

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<v Speaker 3>some little off speed ones, and so he is positioning

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<v Speaker 3>it because you know, I know we've worked here. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen him do fifteen in a row about one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and between one hundred and seventy one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>seventy two ball speed. But then I'll sometimes look and

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<v Speaker 3>he'll hit driver and it'll be a one fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's just probably teed at low and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>squeezed it out there and gone a little bit of run.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, you know he's got an advantage from that.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the putting. He gained almost twelve strokes and

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<v Speaker 1>strokes game putting fifty eight out of fifty nine from

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<v Speaker 1>ten feet. He mentioned that he found something in Scotland

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<v Speaker 1>the week before, got a little training, aid what do

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<v Speaker 1>you put down? I mean the elite, elite putting that

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:05.800
<v Speaker 1>he put on display last week at Hoylight.

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<v Speaker 3>Well he is, like he said, I would say, I

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<v Speaker 3>remember Phil Kenyon. You know Phil works here, and Phil

0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:13.919
<v Speaker 3>had to look at him, and you know, Phil and

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I were kind of comparing notes because Phil knows that

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to kind of keep assuming that kind of

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 3>the overall the head coach role is such an and

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Phil said, look, this guy's been in top fifty and

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<v Speaker 3>putting for eleven years, so he is a really really

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<v Speaker 3>good putter, so he must be mindful of that. Like,

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.480
<v Speaker 3>it's not we're not going into We're not going into

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<v Speaker 3>this with someone who's really maybe not very good at it,

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.280
<v Speaker 3>and we need to make a real wholesale change. But

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<v Speaker 3>in looking at the mechanics of it again, Tennessee, similar

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 3>to the full swing, aims a little too far to

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 3>the right, tends to kind of hood the face on

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.119
<v Speaker 3>the way back backside of it a little bit on

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.200
<v Speaker 3>the way in, and kind of pushes a few putts.

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 3>So the little template that he got just encouraged the

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 3>correct amount of rotation for his stroke. When he gets

0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 3>that little bit of rotation and he has a beautiful

0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:00.359
<v Speaker 3>release on it, his head doesn't back out of it

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.640
<v Speaker 3>at all, and he really gets a rolling end o Bran.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the greens being those sort of flat greens.

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I think when you get as good a role on

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>it as he gets, I can imagine that you know,

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 2>you're kind of going just up against your alignment because

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 2>he's he's hitting the golf ball beautifully. And I think

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 2>you could see.

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 3>A lot of his putts were hit what appeared to

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 3>me to be fairly straight, and they held their line

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:24.920
<v Speaker 3>and they went in the center of the hole from

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 3>various distances. And again the links courses like that, you

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.360
<v Speaker 3>know a lot of them. The burrows are very subtle,

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 3>and as long as your alignment and your your strike

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 3>is really good, you've got a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, one of the marks of a great putter

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.440
<v Speaker 1>is you never see a different putter in their bag.

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>He's got a I mean, I think it was the

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>first of the big kind of tailor made putters. I mean,

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 1>it's a massive putter. It's a game improvement type putter.

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 1>But he rolls shit out of it, and he doesn't

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 1>he never does he mess around with putters. He doesn't

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 1>strike me as I mean, I've never seen him with

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>another putter in the back.

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>He's classic. He sometimes he'll turn up with another putter,

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, and he'll put with it for a bet.

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I said, you're gonna use this?

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 2>He goes, no, I'm just making the other one jealous

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 2>for a minute.

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:22.719
<v Speaker 1>He mentioned that on Saturday after I think two bogies

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 1>in a row, a spectator said to him as he

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 1>was walking from tee to green or from the green

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to the next, he made a comment that you don't

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>have the stones for this. And he mentioned it in

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>his press conference and he said with a smile on

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>his face, that helped on tour. Brian has a reputation

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 1>for being a killer, of being someone that isn't out

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 1>there to make friends. He's not trying to be the

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<v Speaker 1>most liked, and I think one of his big strength

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>is the fact that he's mean and he likes the fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no quote.

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think it probably stems from you'll never

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 3>be in the tallest veggest. You know, he's a very

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 3>he's an extremely accomplished athlete. If you speak to the

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 3>trainers and stuff here that work work with him. But

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:14.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, people have always probably said, now you're too

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 3>small to do this, or you're not going to be

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 3>able to quite do this. You're not the right frame

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 3>and they'll you know, and he loves proving people wrong.

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 3>And that guy, you know, that guy helped him an

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 3>awful lot because as soon as you know, again, Country

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 3>and I like, we've we've tried to figure out some strategies,

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 3>sometimes without really annoying him, you know, because you don't

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.400
<v Speaker 3>want to alienate a player. But how could we use

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 3>that I want to prove you wrong mentality in a

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 3>in a training system, you know, if you know, if

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 3>we turn around him and say, well, you can't do this,

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 3>he could construe that as well. These boys don't believe

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 3>in me anymore. But whether it's like a guy in

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 3>the crowd like that and he says, harmon, you don't

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 3>have the stones for this, and Brian's just saw I'm

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 3>going to show you who's.

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Got the stones for this.

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 3>And and I think that was a you know, that

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<v Speaker 3>was a lovely insight into, you know, some of the

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 3>things that can create and assist some of these performances.

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Because I saw on the Golf channel David Valla the

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 3>similar thing happened to him at the Open Championship that

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 3>he won. Somebody said that like somewhere through the back nine.

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Don't worry the value of time to throw this away,

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 3>I think when I'm definitely not going to throw this

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 3>away now. So it's a it's an interesting study in

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 3>psychology that but he did.

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's coming off with two bogies. It's a

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>flip and comment. The guy's probably been boozing all day.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>He obviously he doesn't know Brian at all, is just

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.679
<v Speaker 1>a spectator. But he says something. But I thought it was,

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>like you said, a unique insight into the way he thinks.

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Because he said it really reset him, and that could

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 1>go the other way too, right, I mean, you're you're

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 1>just bogie two holes. You know you're playing against You're

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously not the favorite. I mean the two favorites last week,

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you know Tommy Fleetwood, and then you know the favorite

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>every week is Roy McElroy, and the press makes him

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the favorite every week, regardless of how he's playing. But

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>it was an interesting insight into he said it. It

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>it gave him a little reset. I've heard other players

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 1>say it's kind of a wake up call to where

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you go, oh, okay, now I need to focus in

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and really really kind of stick to what I'm doing.

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, because

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a huge that's a huge turning point

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>in a round that could have gone the other way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the word reset is a is a

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 3>cool way of looking at it because I think ten

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 3>years ago Brian might have got angered by that. But

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 3>he uses the word reset, which is almost like, Okay,

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 3>now I need to go back to the stuff that

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing really well and then proceed, And that's how

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to show them that I'm going to be

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 3>able to do this. Rather than like being really angry

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 3>and being upset with it all, he just reset, And

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 3>I think I think if he's using it in that way,

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 3>I think he's beginning to use some of the fuel

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 3>in the right way that he may have may or

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 3>may not have used it in the wrong way in

0:27:58.359 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 3>the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you look at what this could do,

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even though he's in his mid thirties, but

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the caliber of players that were

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>on that leader board. You know, we talked about it,

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>like I said, you know, I think it was dinner

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Friday night, you know, I said, listen, John Rahm's going

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 1>to make a run, right, He's going to make a run.

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's just that good of a player. He's

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>going to get out early. He's going to make a run.

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Rory was making a run. You had some elite, elite players.

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>And what do you think this does for Brian's confidence?

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he goes to third and Ryder Cup six

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in the FedEx. He's top ten in the world now,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in the world rankings, if you still believe in the

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>world rankings, but he is now. I mean, on top

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of having a major championship, which he'll be a major

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>champion for the rest of his life, this puts him

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>in a really really interesting position for the remainder of

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the year. I mean, had he been talking at you

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>guys on the team been talking about Ryder Cup at all,

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>or or is that just something that out of nowhere.

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>He goes to third and he is going to be

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>on the plane going to Rome for the US T.

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think we would.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 3>We would avoid those kind of outcome based expectational type

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 3>of conversations with with Brian. It's he's much better as

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 3>many are better served and continue to get into his

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>process and do his work. I think that I think

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 3>he got so lost in it that all of those things,

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, if they did rear there, if you know,

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.239
<v Speaker 3>he talked a little bit about thoughts coming to him

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 3>and he was able just to go and think about

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 3>something else.

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm thrilled for him. You know, he's played two walker cups.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Like you say, he's.

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Had a an unbelievable pedigree, and that was one of

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 3>the things that really surprised me that every time he

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.479
<v Speaker 3>looked like maybe having a wobble, he was able to

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 3>resiliently move forwards. And I was also quite surprised that,

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, nobody else was able to kind of get

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 3>up to the ten eleven under mark and really get

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 3>after him, because you know, like you said, I mean,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 3>these are these were the best players.

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 2>In the world.

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 3>I thought Rory was playing for the most part, playing

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 3>very very well. I think John Ram's an unbelievable player.

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 3>I was thrilled to see Tommy Fleet would play so

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 3>well in front of the galleries, and I was although

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I obviously had a dog in the fight, I was

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 3>disappointed that he wasn't able to do anything on Sunday

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 3>and a test them with the Tommy Fleet would one

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 3>of the first things I saw when Brian was walking

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 3>from the eighteenth to the to the scoring team. Was

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Tommy putting his arm around him and then congratulate him.

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 3>And that's how good a human being Tommy Fleet would is.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>And the first person that he sees when he gets

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to scoring is Zach Johnson. I mean, obviously he's part

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of the whole Sea Island crew. How important is that

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>crew that that? I mean, you're at Sea Island now.

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But Sea Island is one of those places very similar

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to to where I am down here in Jupiter, to

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>where there are a ton of players. There's a bunch

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of people that play on tour. It has a it

0:30:55.440 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 1>has a history and a tradition of having tour play.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about Sea Island and what do you

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like all those players being in that one area

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>does not only for Brian, but for all of them.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think one of the coolest things that they

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 3>do is that they are friends. They hang out and

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 3>they're extremely competitive, and frankly, I find that quite difficult,

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 3>like if that was me, you know, and they pull

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 3>for one another whenever they see things like what Brian's doing,

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, coming to fruition, and they also you know,

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>they also are inwardly wanting to win at all at

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>all costs, and I think it's a very very healthy thing,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 3>you know. I see Paton and Harris and Brian. You know,

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 3>they'll play some practice rounds together and they'll have some

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 3>fun together. But at the same time, you know, once

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 3>the gloves come off, they want to win, and you

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>know they're doing a.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Nice job here.

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the performance center is incredible. I think the varied

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>weather that we get down here is helpful for them.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 3>We've got some really really good variants in our golf

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 3>courses Ocean.

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 2>For US Frederica and the three courses here at uh

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>at Sea Island.

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's uh, you know, it's a kind

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 3>of a cool project to be a part of. I

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 3>go down to Florida, but as you know, to see

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Gracie and and and those sorts of guys, and I

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 3>get a sort of a similar feel sometimes at the

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Bears Club. I think there's you know, there's some some

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>cool stuff going on. I don't know whether you guys

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 3>all see one another as much as we would here

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 3>with you know, there's not that many you know, restaurants

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 3>and bits and pieces, so there's a lot of you know,

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of people that see one another socially

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 3>here too. But you know, it's pretty cool with with

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 3>the performance center, Randy and Tom doing the fitness stuff,

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Phil coming in and out with his with his putting work.

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, we've got a we've got a really good

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>backbone here for for people to get better when they're

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>when they're at home.

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jp, One of the things that that I

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>love about you as a coach is that you don't

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>have a method, you don't have a theory, you don't

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>have a swing that you're trying to teach everyone. You

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>work with players of all different shapes and sizes that

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>work that hit the ball very very different. Is that

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>by design? Is that something that was important to you

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to to kind of see the player as as as

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>an individual, as opposed to saying, Okay, I'm gonna have

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>my ideas and I'm going to put them on the

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>players that come to work with me.

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, without without being dogmatic, I can't I

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 3>can't really think that there is any other way to

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 3>do it. I just I can't understand how we could

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 3>ever treat two or five or eight individuals in the

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 3>same way and expect to get the same results. So

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, for me, it's it's you know, I absolutely

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 3>understand the question. I think it's an excellent question, but

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't really understand how it could be

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.959
<v Speaker 3>done any other way because all these people like you know,

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 3>and and and you and I are in the same

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>boat with that. They're all so different. They've learned different things.

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 3>They've they've had different parents, they've grown up playing different sports,

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 3>they see out of different eyes, they be there different.

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.479
<v Speaker 3>You know, they're left handed, right handed, their their bodies

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 3>are different, their brains are different. So you know, for me,

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 3>it's just it just doesn't make any sense to do

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 3>it any other way than to sit down with each

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 3>person as an individual. And yeah, I think I would

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 3>have learned an awful lot a lot of that through

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, what your family do and how they've seen

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 3>golf and helped people to play better golf, and they're

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think it's your daughter always said, we're

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 3>not you know, we're here to teach. We're teach people

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 3>to play golf. We're not teaching golf to people. So

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, the human being always kind of comes first.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>For me, you made a big decision you know, you

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and I worked together. I moved to Dubai in two

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight. I think I hired you in the summer. Easily.

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>One of the smartest and best decisions that I ever

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 1>made was was hiring you to be on my team.

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>And I lived in Dubai for three years. You ran

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 1>our academy there. You can get really comfortable in Dubai.

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a great place to live. It's an easy place

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to live. The decision when I remember you called me

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and said there was an opportunity for you to go

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to Sea Island, and you were a bit hesitant. You know,

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 1>young kids, young family, you know, great lifestyle. Obviously it

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>worked out, but your changes are tough to make. That

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>process of saying okay, I'm going to pick up my

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>family and move from Dubai and move to America. Talk

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>me through the process at South Georgia. I mean, I

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.439
<v Speaker 1>keep telling you if you get a pickup truck and

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and and and where the pinpoint belt and start hunting,

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you and I aren't going to be friends anymore, you know,

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, But but it must have been a big decision.

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've done it. I mean a lot of

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>people have, but it's a daunting decision to move to

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>another country and and and hope it's all going to

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.479
<v Speaker 1>work out. Yeah.

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean the guys that having done some research about

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Sea Islander, you know, it's a very very classy organization,

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 3>they're not gonna they're not going to entertain hiring someone

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 3>without really wanting them to be a part of the

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of the family here. And they've been, you know,

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 3>they've been absolutely unbelievable. I always thought of Dubai as

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 3>really more of a young man or young woman's time,

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 3>you know. I think it's it's a fabulous place to be,

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, Claude, it's fast, it's ever changing. People move

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 3>in and out of different different positions.

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 2>So as a father of two kids at that point,

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 2>who were you.

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Know, what's Henry Molly was maybe seven or so at

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 3>or six and Henry was three or four, you know,

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 3>something like that, I'm thinking to myself, like Dubai is

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a brilliant place, but it's also it can

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 3>be quite transient and things can move pretty fast, you know,

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 3>the goalposts can shift a bit. So I think I

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 3>saw some stability and pursuing something different. I was also

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 3>traveling as you know, I was helping Peter Uline, Louis

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Ustaus and Charles Schwartzel.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:47.439
<v Speaker 2>At the time.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 3>And you know, again as a young young ash father

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 3>going from Dubai to la and Dubai to Fort Lauderdale,

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>and I remember pitching up at your house and you know,

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 3>at seven in the evening and fall asleep on your

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 3>clutch you if, you know, it was it's a it's

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 3>a hard lifestyle and trying to travel like that. So

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it was becoming clear to me that I either embrace

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 3>the role of trying to teach some of the better

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 3>players in the world or or kind of stay put

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 3>somewhere a little bit more. And you know, I felt

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 3>like I still really wanted to do that, and I'm

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 3>still very passionate about about doing that. And you know,

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 3>see Islands giving me the chance to kind of do

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of both, you know, be able to

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, do some teaching here when I'm at home.

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, a pretty quick flight from Jacksonville at Lander

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 3>or Brunswick to Atlanta to get to most of the

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 3>the tour venues.

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 2>That we go to.

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 3>And you know, a beautiful environment here for kids to

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 3>grow up in.

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, the islands.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 3>The island's beautiful, they've got some some independence, they've got

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 3>some good friends that they run around with, and they're

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 3>in and out of swimming pools and so yeah, so far,

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 3>so good.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, there's a long list of major champions to come

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>out of Northern Ireland, but you're you're now part of

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 1>that fabric of major championships as well. I think every

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>country needs role models for young instructors. And I think

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you may not have thought of this, but there'll be

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:16.720
<v Speaker 1>someone that's teaching on a driving range in you know, Banger,

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, somewhere where it's not great, where the weather's

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>not good, where the ranges aren't good, that will see,

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, Justin Parsons, who's from Hollywood Golf Club, has

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>worked with a major champion. Have you let your mind

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 1>think about you know what that means from you know,

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a Northern Ireland standpoint, And.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know a little bit.

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think I think, like you know, you

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and I have talked about it's it's nice to it's

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 3>nice to consider that you could use some of the

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.399
<v Speaker 3>achievements that you've had and players have had to try

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 3>to give a bit back.

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I think you get to.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Again to our sort of stage where you know, and

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 3>I know you do some of this with you know,

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 3>with your broadcasting and things that got but to get

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 3>a bit back and to try and try and help

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 3>some people along the way, it's it's amazing. I mean,

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 3>the minded text messages and WhatsApps and stuff on Instagram

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 3>and things that that I've got, it's it's really quite

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 3>humbling to to consider that you're in that kind of

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 3>group of people who are who are thought of in

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 3>that way. So, you know, as I sort of process

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 3>it and try and figure figure some stuff out, I

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 3>would like to try and arrange how to how to

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 3>give a bit back with with people and and you know,

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 3>like I was very fortunate to get to become a

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 3>part of your family and be trained and taught and

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 3>helped by you know, the first family of golf instruction,

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and some of those boys and girls back

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 3>there doing that won't maybe have that chance. But maybe

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 3>if I can give a week bit back to them

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 3>and help them on the way, I would like to

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:45.399
<v Speaker 3>do that.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Has my dad messaged you multiple times?

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he was very he was very excited. You know,

0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 3>he's been he's been amazing to me, you know, his

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 3>his his approach with treating the human being. He's like

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 3>a chameleon, as you've you've seen many more times than

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I have. His ability to communicate with each and in

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.479
<v Speaker 3>every individual in a slightly more nuanced and different way,

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, belittles his uh you know, his his rogue

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>americanisms sometimes and he you know, I remember seeing him teach,

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, people who were kind of religious and good living,

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden he'd be like a like

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 3>a pastor or a preacher. And then you know, some

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 3>of the boys who liked to gamble and go to

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Vegas for other reasons, and all of a sudden he

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 3>turned into the frock boy again.

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 2>And I was always I was always in, you know,

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 2>in great admiration for you know, the guy who I

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 2>think is probably the best that there's ever been at

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>what we do.

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>JP you you've left, You've left on Saturday. You had

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a player who's had a five shot lead going into Saturday.

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>You had a player that had a five shot lead

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>going into Sunday, and you chose to go home. It

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>was your daughter's eleventh birthday. And I gotta be honest

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>with you, I was surprised you took off, not because

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you could have affected the outcome, but because

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been lucky enough to be a part of players

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 1>winning major championships before, and it is a very unique thing.

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>But you said something that has really stuck with me.

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 1>You said, listen, my daughter's eleven before she goes away

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to college. How many more birthdays am I going to

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>be a part of? And I think it's a testament

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to the type of person you are that you could

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>have easily stayed and been standing on the eighteenth Green

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and give Brian a big hug and been a part

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of it and seen it up close, and but you

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>chose to get on an airplane Saturday and go home.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>That was a strange one for me. I want I

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>as much as I wanted you to be there for

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Molly's birthday, selfishly, from a professional standpoint, I wanted to

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 1>be there to be a part of it.

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, truthfully, I thought of like, she's.

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Not quite at an age where she understands the gravity

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 3>of what happened on suddenly from a professional perspective, but

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, and at some point she will be at

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 3>an age where she realizes that I came home.

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 1>And that's I mean, that's the balance, right, I mean

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the balance in what we do is trying to balance

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the players, the travel, and then the work life.

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think you know, out of all the people

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that are currently doing it what we do, I think

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.919
<v Speaker 1>you do an amazing job at trying to balance all

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 1>of it very well, because you know, I'm I'm terrible

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>at it. I'm you know, I'm I'm not good at

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not good at the work life balance. That's for sure.

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Well on the caveat in there, you know.

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 3>And I'm going to say this is we finished off

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 3>that little putting session on Friday and I and I

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 3>gave Brian a high five and I said, and I

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 3>can't held all his hand. And I said, I'm already

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 3>here tomorrow unless you need me. And he said, no,

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 3>go home. You're you're doing my birthday party, aren't you.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I went yeah.

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 3>He said no, I'd go from here, don't worry about it,

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 3>and had he said, JP, this is this is a

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 3>big week. I'd love you to stay and hang on.

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 3>I'd be the first one on Delta to put that

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 3>to Monday. But he did, you know, and I checked

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 3>with him and if he had needed me, I would

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 3>have been there for him and I'd have probably ended

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 3>up having to buy Molly a.

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Horse or something like that.

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 3>But you know, and that's just the way that the

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 3>way that I wanted it to be. So if he

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't need me, I'm sticking the planet.

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, it was lonely in the house on Saturday night,

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the curry and the red wine didn't taste is good.

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly, mate, I mean you and I have You're

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<v Speaker 1>the brother I never had, and you know I never

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 1>had a brother, And you know, I've learned an enormous

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>amount from you, and you've been such a a stabilizing

0:43:56.080 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>and positive person in my life. And you know, I

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 1>certainly wouldn't be where I am today without you and

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<v Speaker 1>oh your help. So I'm proud of you.

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<v Speaker 3>And well, I think if we haven't met, I think

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<v Speaker 3>at some point a situation in a Dubai bank probably

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<v Speaker 3>would have taken you into some sort of jail for

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years that I tried to come.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for those of you who.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know, the story club is asked to sign, I

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 3>think you were asked to sign fifty two checks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you buy a car, when you buy a

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>car in Dubai, you have to have you have to

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you're making payments, and you have to sign a check

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>for each one.

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 3>They probably have they probably have modernized that since two

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 3>thousand and eight or two thousand and nine, So forgive

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 3>us for.

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 2>But they did, and they put it in a safety deposit. One.

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 2>So you got fifty two checks from the bank.

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 1>And I specifically asked you went with me when we

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 1>when I was buying the car, and I said, do

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I need more checks because I have to go to

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the bank to get more checks, And they said, no,

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty two. So we went to the bank, we got

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the fifty two checks, and we went back in signed

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 1>all fifty two of them. And then they said, and

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 1>now you need one more check for the total value

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 1>of the car. So now we had to go back

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>to Dubiden. We had to go back to Emerts mall.

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 2>And Emerts yeah, Emirates NBD, isn't it ever? And we

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>uh and then and I thought you were going to

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 2>have a problem with mister Muhammad what was it Muhammad

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Sharif I think his name might have been or something

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, when he told when he told me, I wasn't

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>signing my name my signature. He said, you're signing your

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>name improperly, and and you put your hand, you put

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>your hand on my shoulder and said, breathe, breathe, breathe.

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I did for you what you did for me on Sunday.

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 3>So we're kind of we're even there, but no, I

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 3>appreciate all the all love and support club. We've we've

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 3>been a good old we've had a good old run

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 3>out and it's it's special for me to do this

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 3>and have a have a talk with you.

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't tell you how proud I am of you.

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I love you, and you are one of the best

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in the world at what you do. And this certainly

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>isn't going to be the last major you're going to

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>be involved with. So thanks for coming back on and

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>talking to us and enjoy it. You're going to see

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>Brian win.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully, Brian's gonna fly back on Friday. He went he

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 3>went to Syracuse, which was the plan, to to see

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 3>his family. You know, Kelly and the kids have been

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 3>up there for for a week or so, so I

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 3>would imagine.

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 2>That he'll he'll probably need a little bit of.

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Rest, which he may or may not get with his

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 3>three beautiful young children, but he'll.

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 2>He'll be back here Friday. I have no idea. I

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 2>don't even know whether he's going to play Windham.

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Yet, he'll sure as hell doesn't need to.

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 2>He does not need to anymore. No, but you know,

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what these guys are like.

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that was on the schedule and there were there

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 3>were things going on, but you know, we're probably looking

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 3>forward to the playoffs.

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 2>The Ryder Cup will be decided when it's decided. But

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I do hope that he you know, here is a

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 2>place there and it'll be nice for him to to

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:01.919
<v Speaker 2>maintain that sort of top six thing.

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>He's third on the list with two events left. He

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 1>can't fall. He is going to be on the team

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>in Rome. You don't have anything to worry about. Enjoyed

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>drinking out of the Cleric jug. I got to do

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.720
<v Speaker 1>it once with Ernie Els and it's pretty special. And

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>make sure you pour something in there that's good. I

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>see it. So that was justin Parsons And like I said,

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>he's a hell of an instructor, but he's a better person.

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that there are many instructors with a

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>player trying to win their first major as a player

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and as a coach having a player win their first major,

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of people would fly home, but he

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>flew home for his daughter's birthday. And I think that

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>says a hell of a lot about him as a

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.720
<v Speaker 1>human being. And he is one of the good ones.

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And I am so so proud of him, proud to

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 1>call him a friend, and proud to watch all the

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>work that he does. So the Major's twenty twenty three

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 1>in the books John Rahm, Brooks Kepka, Wyndham Clark, and

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>now Brian Harmon, And don't think a lot of people

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 1>would have picked him, but early in the week it

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 1>just had. I've seen Brian Harmon play well before he

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.839
<v Speaker 1>took the lead into Aaron Hills in twenty seventeen, when

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>brooks Kepka won. When I was working with Brooks in

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen and I had a friend from the US saying, Hey,

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>give me a dark horse pick that nobody's looking at.

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And this was on Wednesday. I said bet Ham, Brian Harmon,

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.879
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, what I said, Brian Harmon, It's

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the perfect kind of golf course for him. And I

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>mentioned in one of the practice rounds to Brooks that

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I was staying with JP that week and I said,

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>this is a good golf course for Brian Harmon and

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>PK said yeah, I mean this perfect golf course for

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the type of golf that he plays. And it turned

0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>out to be true. So that it's the twenty twenty

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.400
<v Speaker 1>three major championships in the books. Two weeks left on

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour, We got Ryder Cup coming up live,

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>still has a bunch of events and then the Fall Series,

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>so we'll see what this does for Brian Harmon and

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>his career. Son of a Butcher comes to you every Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see you all next week.