Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to
Speaker 1: you every Wednesday. This week's guest Justin Parsons. Justin's been
Speaker 1: on the pod before, but we had to get him
Speaker 1: back on this week coming off the Open Championship that
Speaker 1: Brian Harmon won. JP is the coach of Brian Harmon.
Speaker 1: We shared a house last week not far from Hoylake
Speaker 1: and it was a very very It was a really
Speaker 1: special experience for me JP and I. He's one of
Speaker 1: my closest friends and you know, someone who I have
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of respect for, and we just huddled in,
Speaker 1: we we cooked, we ordered in food, and it was
Speaker 1: it was a really really special week. And to see
Speaker 1: Brian Harmon get it done and to see JP be
Speaker 1: part of a major championship is it's pretty special. And
Speaker 1: I hired JP. I moved to Dubai in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight and met him on a couple of trips
Speaker 1: and just I just I just he had something and
Speaker 1: I sent him a message. I was pretty tough on
Speaker 1: him in the beginning when he worked for He worked
Speaker 1: for me for three years, and then when I left
Speaker 1: and moved to the US, he took over the running
Speaker 1: of the academy that we had at the L's Club,
Speaker 1: and I was pretty hard on him, and uh, there
Speaker 1: were some tough times at the beginning, but I sent
Speaker 1: him a message on Sunday night that now he knows
Speaker 1: why I was so hard on him, because I just
Speaker 1: knew that he he could do what he's done and
Speaker 1: and that has become one of the best golf instructors
Speaker 1: in the world. So really excited to get an opportunity
Speaker 1: to talk to him again. And I think everybody's going
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. So sit back and enjoy listening to
Speaker 1: Justin Parsons. So justin your first major championship as a coach,
Speaker 1: what was it? Was it different than you thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be? And what's the last forty eight
Speaker 1: hours been?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: I think when you texted me and told me to
Speaker 3: walk around the room and keep breathing, I think I
Speaker 3: actually kind of helped because I think at one point
Speaker 3: I was setting hence not breathing, which isn't you know
Speaker 3: as you approach our tender years, it's not a good
Speaker 3: way to be blood pressure spiking.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was nerve wracking, plod I you know, I couldn't
Speaker 3: really relax until he got the ball into the middle
Speaker 3: of that seventeenth green. I think he was he's in
Speaker 3: too good a space to hit to do anything silly
Speaker 3: down the last, but that's seventeenth hole, Like you could
Speaker 3: nearly make anything there if you've got you know, if
Speaker 3: you've got something wrong off the tee and got some
Speaker 3: bad lies and you know, you and I saw it
Speaker 3: was like out there, it was it was carnage waiting
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 1: He's he's a very interesting player, you know. He he
Speaker 1: does so many things well, but he's never been thought
Speaker 1: of as a superstar. But if you think about it,
Speaker 1: JP from an amateur standpoint up until Brian Harmon turned pro,
Speaker 1: he basically did everything that you would say would be
Speaker 1: the prototype to becoming a superstar on the PGA Tour
Speaker 1: and having, you know, a Hall of Fame type career
Speaker 1: based off of what he did as a as a
Speaker 1: junior golfer, as an amateur golfer.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you and your dad have always helped
Speaker 3: me with that. Like, you know, you want to see
Speaker 3: what a player's really capable of. Who did he beat
Speaker 3: when he was fourteen? How many people was he beaten
Speaker 3: when he was eighteen, How was he as an amateur?
Speaker 3: What was he like in college? And as you've just said,
Speaker 3: you know, Brian was an absolute superstar, you know, really
Speaker 3: all the way through those ranks. I think that you know,
Speaker 3: as I've gotten to know him, his inquisitive, very fast
Speaker 3: acting mind has probably done him as slight the service
Speaker 3: and he's had to work very hard. And you probably
Speaker 3: listened with interest to a lot of his press stuff,
Speaker 3: you know about the process and staying in the process
Speaker 3: and things. And the weird thing is, you know, Scott
Speaker 3: Tway Country and I have been you know, gently trying
Speaker 3: to quiet in those appreciour routines, done a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know, adding structure to the warm ups, doing all
Speaker 3: of the things that we know that are going to
Speaker 3: end up kind of calming the player downing. And for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, the Open Championship he embraced all of it.
Speaker 3: And he made it, you know, like you and I
Speaker 3: talk about, he made it his idea and he was
Speaker 3: able to execute.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been lucky enough to be a part
Speaker 1: of major championships with players before, and I can never
Speaker 1: put my finger jp on what's different about them that week.
Speaker 1: But we spend so much time around these players. You know,
Speaker 1: we devote so much of our lives to them and
Speaker 1: and in a lot of ways, I always say tour
Speaker 1: players sometimes are like dogs. They communicate with you non verbally.
Speaker 1: You can see when they're in good moods. They don't
Speaker 1: have to tell you. You can see when they're in bad moods.
Speaker 1: You can see when things are all Was there anything
Speaker 1: different about Brian last week that's been different than times
Speaker 1: when he hasn't won a big tournament.
Speaker 3: There was definitely some sort of psychological shift, There's no
Speaker 3: no question about that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: We we've done some things at the back end of
Speaker 3: last year to try and assist and then Brian that
Speaker 3: the Renaissance Club started taking ice bats, which you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of research and it's a very popular
Speaker 3: little thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You see people you know all all over, from Joe
Speaker 3: Rogan to other members of the you know, the sort
Speaker 3: of the mainstream, you know, advising that that's a great
Speaker 3: thing for you know, athletic recovery, getting yourself into the
Speaker 3: right head space, being resilient.
Speaker 2: And it was weird. I said to again, I said
Speaker 2: the country on Friday after he shot that low run,
Speaker 2: I said, you know, Brian's had a bit of an
Speaker 2: aura about him in the last two weeks and we
Speaker 2: started discussing or and without getting to Yogic, you know,
Speaker 2: he definitely started to there was a very much more
Speaker 2: of a calmness surrounding him that was different to some
Speaker 2: of the things in the past. And we had, you know, really.
Speaker 3: Good conversations, a lot of humor of Renaissance and and
Speaker 3: lots of fun on the on the range really at
Speaker 3: Liverpool too. So yeah, I mean, it's it's a very
Speaker 3: hard thing to pinpoint. I'm glad that you referenced to
Speaker 3: her players as dogs and I didn't, but they they
Speaker 3: are a you know, they're an incredible They're they're incredible
Speaker 3: people at what they do. They do things that we've
Speaker 3: always kind of in the game, you know, many of
Speaker 3: us wanted to do and they do it at an
Speaker 3: extremely high level under the greatest of pressure. And I'm
Speaker 3: sure I'm just like you that I'm kind of in
Speaker 3: awe of them when they're able to deliver those big performances.
Speaker 1: You mentioned playing. I mean, you grew up wanting to
Speaker 1: be a player, Ricky. We were flying home. I got
Speaker 1: a ride home with Brooks from Liverpool, and Ricky Elliot,
Speaker 1: who caddies for Brooks, was on the plane and we
Speaker 1: were when you won. We were talking about it and
Speaker 1: he said, you know, justin you know, I know, I
Speaker 1: mean Ricky. You and Ricky have known each other pretty
Speaker 1: much your whole lives. You played junior golf together and
Speaker 1: you wanted to be a player. Did you ever envision
Speaker 1: when you were younger growing up in Northern Ironland and
Speaker 1: playing playing in these am your tournaments, and playing in
Speaker 1: the rain and and all the things that you have
Speaker 1: to go through in Northern Ireland, did you ever let
Speaker 1: your mind wander to one day coaching and coaching someone
Speaker 1: that that wins the Open Championship and lifts a claric
Speaker 1: jog No.
Speaker 3: I think that probably happened a bit later. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think you know, and I.
Speaker 2: Know it was. It was never massively part of your
Speaker 2: like professional story. You weren't.
Speaker 3: You weren't in a position where you ever really wanted
Speaker 3: to do And I think I think had I been knew,
Speaker 3: I think if I was around the people and the
Speaker 3: players that you were around, it would it would have
Speaker 3: quickly occurred to me that I wasn't good enough to
Speaker 3: do it. You know, you're you're growing up watching you know,
Speaker 3: Greg Norman and Davis Love and people hit golf shots,
Speaker 3: and you're you know, you're probably immediately aware that I
Speaker 3: can't do that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just so. I think we were a
Speaker 2: little bit in dream in dreamland before before the Internet
Speaker 2: and all of the information that we have. But you know,
Speaker 2: certainly it's a I wouldn't say it's that. I think when,
Speaker 2: like you said, you join a very illustrious club. Brian
Speaker 2: Harman joined in the illustrious club to.
Speaker 3: Be able to be a part of a team of
Speaker 3: individuals who assisted a player to win a major championship.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's not that many people like that around,
Speaker 3: so I can't say that it would have been a
Speaker 3: frontal kind of goal. But you know, to see it happen,
Speaker 3: it just makes it. It makes it even more weird.
Speaker 3: You know, Brian sent me a text last night. They
Speaker 3: left Liverpool at three am Monday morning. They got to Paris.
Speaker 3: I think he must have texted me from the plane
Speaker 3: in Paris and he said, I'm afraid to go to
Speaker 3: sleep because it might wake up and it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Oh that's I mean, that's amazing. I mean, what are
Speaker 1: it is? I mean when we were texting, I was
Speaker 1: on the plane. We're somewhere over the Atlantic, and you know,
Speaker 1: we were looking online. The Internet was kind of sporadic,
Speaker 1: and Brooks was saying, you know, we we were counting
Speaker 1: down the holes and Brooks was saying, Okay, if he
Speaker 1: gets through here, he's fine. And then once once he
Speaker 1: made that long pot at fourteen, I was looking online
Speaker 1: and I said to Brooks, I said, he just hold
Speaker 1: it from forty feet on fourteen and Brooke said, well,
Speaker 1: it's game over now, he said, because he's got two
Speaker 1: far fives coming up. And even if something disastrous happens
Speaker 1: at seventeen, he built such a big lead. I think
Speaker 1: one of the impressive things JP he slept on a
Speaker 1: five shot lead two nights in a row, which is very,
Speaker 1: very difficult to do. And we stayed together last week
Speaker 1: in the house and we were talking about it, and
Speaker 1: you know, we were overdosing on curry and red wine
Speaker 1: for the week, but you know we talked about that
Speaker 1: and you kept asking me questions. I mean, I remember
Speaker 1: on Friday night you were saying, you know, what's you know,
Speaker 1: what's what's going to happen. Who's the threat. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: the big lead, it's tough, and it's at catch twenty
Speaker 1: two of the big lead is great, but the big
Speaker 1: league can go quickly and be over in two holes.
Speaker 1: And I think what was really impressive is he didn't
Speaker 1: get off to great starts either Saturday or so, but
Speaker 1: as the rounds went on, he really seemed to calm
Speaker 1: down and almost play his way into good golf.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're probably right.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the advice that you gave me
Speaker 3: on Friday night, when you know Jeremy Elliott, who's who
Speaker 3: was there all week with with Brian, he he had
Speaker 3: texted me and said.
Speaker 2: You know what am I going to do now?
Speaker 3: With with Brian until three point thirty on Saturday, which
Speaker 3: is a really late tea time, and you know, I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: should I look up museums, go for a walk of
Speaker 3: the beach, you know, do two work? And you just
Speaker 3: said to me, you know, having having had experience of this, well,
Speaker 3: you've got to tell him that this is the way
Speaker 3: it is at the Open champmanship. Jack Nicholas has done it,
Speaker 3: Tiger's done it, Louie's done it. The boys that you know,
Speaker 3: they've had that tea time, and they've had they've had
Speaker 3: to accept that this is part of part of what
Speaker 3: it is to be one of the few people who
Speaker 3: could even have claimed to ever get close to winning
Speaker 3: an open chapmanship. And and whether or not Jeremy passed
Speaker 3: on that or whether or not that they embraced it,
Speaker 3: I'll find out you later. But I thought that was
Speaker 3: great advice because you have to embrace it. You have
Speaker 3: to look at it full in the face and say, right,
Speaker 3: I'm going to take this on.
Speaker 2: And I think he did take it on, and you know,
Speaker 2: and the rest of its history. But I agree with you.
Speaker 3: He you know, if anything, the brain was probably moving
Speaker 3: pretty quickly the first two or three holes and as
Speaker 3: he got into his process, and you know, as he
Speaker 3: got through it, you know, you and I talked a
Speaker 3: wee bit about the fact that, like he's his iron
Speaker 3: play has been something that we've we've been improving, I
Speaker 3: think fairly steadily over two years. And I think Link's
Speaker 3: golf really helps him because it makes him get on
Speaker 3: top of the golf ball and makes him drive the
Speaker 3: golf ball out a bit more and be a bit
Speaker 3: more aggressive with a strike. He's you know Jack Glunkan
Speaker 3: who was in my thoughts a lot over the weekend.
Speaker 2: You know, Jack always said, never let Brian help the
Speaker 2: ball up in the air.
Speaker 3: You know, because he's not the longest player, he doesn't
Speaker 3: hit it way up into the sky. And then mechanically
Speaker 3: if he ever starts to try and help it up
Speaker 3: in the air, it really you know, it puts him
Speaker 3: in a bad spot with his you know, with his
Speaker 3: pivot and with you know where the golf club starts
Speaker 3: to get delivered from.
Speaker 2: And I think link skof really helps.
Speaker 3: And we saw him play well at some nundrews and
Speaker 3: you know he quieted himself doing I think he had
Speaker 3: that strike on it and he was deep in his
Speaker 3: process and he showed the world what he can do.
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Speaker 1: talk about the process, and we talked about that at night,
Speaker 1: you know, in the house last week. You know, I
Speaker 1: was asking you what you were trying to do. Tell
Speaker 1: us JP, what the process that you and his caddie,
Speaker 1: Scott Tway, whose brother is Bob Tway, who won a
Speaker 1: major championship. I think you know Scott. Everybody calls him
Speaker 1: country on tour. I think Scott's a calming influence for Brian.
Speaker 1: But what is what is the process? And and I
Speaker 1: know that that you've talked a lot about one of
Speaker 1: the keys is alignment and having consistent alignment. And in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, there aren't any Instagram golfer influencer people
Speaker 1: doing videos on alignment right they're they're not doing any
Speaker 1: videos and on grip, posture, stance, alignment. But so much
Speaker 1: of what goes into great golf at the elite, elite level,
Speaker 1: I think people will be surprised that a lot of
Speaker 1: times it is the basic, basic fundamentals that you have
Speaker 1: to look after. And you talked a lot about the alignment.
Speaker 1: Talk me through what you've done with his alignment, what
Speaker 1: the tendencies were, and how you've helped him kind of
Speaker 1: create a consistent alignment.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, first and foremost, it's like you know,
Speaker 3: you and I talk about those tendencies. I mean, I've
Speaker 3: been I watching him at tournaments, watching him on practice rhymes,
Speaker 3: and when he aims too far to the right and
Speaker 3: he ends up like underturning, because he's already a little restricted.
Speaker 3: He's got a very very square trail foot, if you
Speaker 3: can imagine, So he's already restricted underturns, has a lot
Speaker 3: of lateral movement, and his down swing club then gets
Speaker 3: a little bit underneath and he has to kind of
Speaker 3: tran and swing it out towards the target, so he
Speaker 3: loses all his kind of rotary pressure on.
Speaker 2: The golf ball.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's so that I can do all that
Speaker 3: on Instagram when people would love that. But the fact
Speaker 3: is that that comes from him aiming too far to
Speaker 3: the right, so and then.
Speaker 1: And unless you fix the aim, you can work on
Speaker 1: the other stuff. And that's what I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of people listening understand that. The domino effect of
Speaker 1: what is all the things that you talked about that
Speaker 1: everybody that's a golf nerd loves to hear, you know,
Speaker 1: lateral slide, club laying down all of that. Those are
Speaker 1: all the effects. They're not the cause, they're not the
Speaker 1: reason why he's hitting the bad shots. The bad shots
Speaker 1: come from the alignment gets off and then the domino
Speaker 1: effect of everything else. He has to do what he
Speaker 1: has to do. My dad is always you and I've
Speaker 1: I've said this to you a million times. You know,
Speaker 1: when we work together back in the day in Dubai.
Speaker 1: You're never doing what you're doing in the golf swing
Speaker 1: because you want to. You're doing it because you have
Speaker 1: to do that. So the alignment, how did you get
Speaker 1: him to buy into being a consistent you know alignment.
Speaker 1: And there's been some great pictures on Instagram, you know,
Speaker 1: on social to where there's a shaft for his foot
Speaker 1: line and then there's a shaft kind of in between
Speaker 1: his feet for his ball position. Was that something that
Speaker 1: that you implemented and came up with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we did.
Speaker 3: I mean we had we've had variations of that over
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, with the shoft on the
Speaker 3: ground like you've described, the horizontal for the ball position,
Speaker 3: and another shaft just to the to the left of
Speaker 3: target as it would be. And he's always having us
Speaker 3: because his tendency would be to start it too far
Speaker 3: to the left, so as he starts at more to
Speaker 3: the right, then he starts to get.
Speaker 2: A feel of getting on top of it and keeping
Speaker 2: good pressure on it.
Speaker 3: I would say that more recently he's really double back
Speaker 3: onto that right. I'm going to do that in every
Speaker 3: single session, and I see you see golf alignment I
Speaker 3: think is extremely difficult. I think you're you're aiming at
Speaker 3: targets that are different distances in front of you. You're
Speaker 3: hitting golf shots with clubs that are different lengths, You're
Speaker 3: standing with different distances from the golf ball, and the
Speaker 3: golf balls land on the ground in front of you.
Speaker 3: So I think it's it's a constant training of the eyes.
Speaker 3: And the best players that I've certainly worked for, I
Speaker 3: would say have a much more acute understanding and awareness
Speaker 3: and respect for alignment than the rest of us do.
Speaker 3: And I think part of Brand's, part of brand structure,
Speaker 3: part of his journey, has been to understand that we
Speaker 3: had a really interesting little thing that happened last year,
Speaker 3: not this year. Last year at Health and Head he
Speaker 3: was on that eighth hole, you'd probably notice like a
Speaker 3: par four, there's a hazard on the right. Second shot,
Speaker 3: there's a tree, and he realized that he could kind
Speaker 3: of like close the face a little bit and stay
Speaker 3: aiming pretty square and then hit like what we'd call
Speaker 3: a pressure cut, and he hit one shot, and that
Speaker 3: one shot resulted in him playing really really good golf
Speaker 3: for about I'm going to say most of the summer
Speaker 3: of last year, und of the fall, because he finally
Speaker 3: understood that he didn't have to open up way to
Speaker 3: the right in his case to cut it. He could
Speaker 3: kind of stay pretty square and cover it and get
Speaker 3: on top of it. And you know, we went he
Speaker 3: went away from it a little bit, took a lot
Speaker 3: of time off over Christmas, and then gradually we feel
Speaker 3: like we've been piecing it all together, and then you know,
Speaker 3: the process has been really good. He uses that DST
Speaker 3: the Bendy Club, which helps people kind of do the
Speaker 3: same type of thing. He gets his alignment really well structured.
Speaker 3: He uses a smart ball between his arms from time
Speaker 3: to time just to soften that early set that he
Speaker 3: has in his takeaway, and that makes him very kind
Speaker 3: of pivot driven, and you know, he's got a really
Speaker 3: good engine when.
Speaker 2: He gets it. When he gets it, going and you know,
Speaker 2: you could see like people think.
Speaker 3: He's obviously he's not six foot five, but he's you know,
Speaker 3: he's still in and around with a waterproof suit on
Speaker 3: cruise in about one hundred and sixty seven hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty eight miles an hour of ball speed, which you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's not what DJ can do, and it's not
Speaker 3: what Rory can do.
Speaker 2: But you know, he's hitting driver more often than a
Speaker 2: lot of other players, and he's.
Speaker 3: Very comfortable doing that. And when you combine that with
Speaker 3: a putting performance he put in he was unstoppable one.
Speaker 1: Hundred and forty two and driving distance going into the week.
Speaker 1: He's five six weighs about one hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1: I read and I saw some things that mentioned the
Speaker 1: fact that he hits So there are a lot of players,
Speaker 1: you know, DJ, Rory, the bombers, you know, the big
Speaker 1: big bombers. They can't hit driver everywhere they're hitting you know,
Speaker 1: driving irons or hitting three woods. But I saw and
Speaker 1: noticed that he hits driver a lot. How do you
Speaker 1: feel like him hitting driver a lot plays into a
Speaker 1: strength for him.
Speaker 3: I think it plays into a great strength for him,
Speaker 3: And I think you know there are golf courses that
Speaker 3: we go to through the year where we almost know
Speaker 3: that Brian has a competitive advantage with that, Like the
Speaker 3: seventeenth hole of Travelers. He has a competitive advantage there
Speaker 3: because he aims at down that left or off draws
Speaker 3: it three hundred dish down the middle and hits a wedge,
Speaker 3: and a lot of guys are hitting four iron off
Speaker 3: that tee. It does the same at healthon.
Speaker 2: Head hits hits driver an awful lot more hits driver
Speaker 2: down four at the Players Championship in sawgrass and hits
Speaker 2: a log wedge, and a lot of guys are hitting
Speaker 2: hybrids or long arms on that tea.
Speaker 1: And that's a big advantage if you can stand up
Speaker 1: on holes like that and hit driver where everybody else
Speaker 1: because then if you miss. The other thing is if
Speaker 1: you if he's hitting driver where everyone else is hitting
Speaker 1: you know, three wood iron, if he hits the fairway
Speaker 1: and they miss the fairway with a four iron, now
Speaker 1: they're miles back and they're hitting it out of the rough.
Speaker 3: So there is a distinct competitive advantage there. I have
Speaker 3: not I would say that he's been a really elite
Speaker 3: level driver of the golf ball for a long long time,
Speaker 3: you know, really since he went on tour and you.
Speaker 2: Know, country let him, lets him go with the driver.
Speaker 2: And the other thing.
Speaker 3: I think with the speed he's he's very rarely like
Speaker 3: one rep max speed with his driver.
Speaker 2: He's extremely versatile.
Speaker 3: He tees a lot of them low hits, little squeezers hits,
Speaker 3: some little off speed ones, and so he is positioning
Speaker 3: it because you know, I know we've worked here. You know,
Speaker 3: I've seen him do fifteen in a row about one
Speaker 3: hundred and between one hundred and seventy one hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy two ball speed. But then I'll sometimes look and
Speaker 3: he'll hit driver and it'll be a one fifty eight.
Speaker 3: But he's just probably teed at low and kind of
Speaker 3: squeezed it out there and gone a little bit of run.
Speaker 2: And again, you know he's got an advantage from that.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the putting. He gained almost twelve strokes and
Speaker 1: strokes game putting fifty eight out of fifty nine from
Speaker 1: ten feet. He mentioned that he found something in Scotland
Speaker 1: the week before, got a little training, aid what do
Speaker 1: you put down? I mean the elite, elite putting that
Speaker 1: he put on display last week at Hoylight.
Speaker 3: Well he is, like he said, I would say, I
Speaker 3: remember Phil Kenyon. You know Phil works here, and Phil
Speaker 3: had to look at him, and you know, Phil and
Speaker 3: I were kind of comparing notes because Phil knows that
Speaker 3: I'm going to kind of keep assuming that kind of
Speaker 3: the overall the head coach role is such an and
Speaker 3: Phil said, look, this guy's been in top fifty and
Speaker 3: putting for eleven years, so he is a really really
Speaker 3: good putter, so he must be mindful of that. Like,
Speaker 3: it's not we're not going into We're not going into
Speaker 3: this with someone who's really maybe not very good at it,
Speaker 3: and we need to make a real wholesale change. But
Speaker 3: in looking at the mechanics of it again, Tennessee, similar
Speaker 3: to the full swing, aims a little too far to
Speaker 3: the right, tends to kind of hood the face on
Speaker 3: the way back backside of it a little bit on
Speaker 3: the way in, and kind of pushes a few putts.
Speaker 3: So the little template that he got just encouraged the
Speaker 3: correct amount of rotation for his stroke. When he gets
Speaker 3: that little bit of rotation and he has a beautiful
Speaker 3: release on it, his head doesn't back out of it
Speaker 3: at all, and he really gets a rolling end o Bran.
Speaker 2: I think the greens being those sort of flat greens.
Speaker 2: I think when you get as good a role on
Speaker 2: it as he gets, I can imagine that you know,
Speaker 2: you're kind of going just up against your alignment because
Speaker 2: he's he's hitting the golf ball beautifully. And I think
Speaker 2: you could see.
Speaker 3: A lot of his putts were hit what appeared to
Speaker 3: me to be fairly straight, and they held their line
Speaker 3: and they went in the center of the hole from
Speaker 3: various distances. And again the links courses like that, you
Speaker 3: know a lot of them. The burrows are very subtle,
Speaker 3: and as long as your alignment and your your strike
Speaker 3: is really good, you've got a chance.
Speaker 1: To me, one of the marks of a great putter
Speaker 1: is you never see a different putter in their bag.
Speaker 1: He's got a I mean, I think it was the
Speaker 1: first of the big kind of tailor made putters. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a massive putter. It's a game improvement type putter.
Speaker 1: But he rolls shit out of it, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: he never does he mess around with putters. He doesn't
Speaker 1: strike me as I mean, I've never seen him with
Speaker 1: another putter in the back.
Speaker 3: He's classic. He sometimes he'll turn up with another putter,
Speaker 3: you know, and he'll put with it for a bet.
Speaker 3: I said, you're gonna use this?
Speaker 2: He goes, no, I'm just making the other one jealous
Speaker 2: for a minute.
Speaker 1: He mentioned that on Saturday after I think two bogies
Speaker 1: in a row, a spectator said to him as he
Speaker 1: was walking from tee to green or from the green
Speaker 1: to the next, he made a comment that you don't
Speaker 1: have the stones for this. And he mentioned it in
Speaker 1: his press conference and he said with a smile on
Speaker 1: his face, that helped on tour. Brian has a reputation
Speaker 1: for being a killer, of being someone that isn't out
Speaker 1: there to make friends. He's not trying to be the
Speaker 1: most liked, and I think one of his big strength
Speaker 1: is the fact that he's mean and he likes the fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no quote.
Speaker 3: I mean I think it probably stems from you'll never
Speaker 3: be in the tallest veggest. You know, he's a very
Speaker 3: he's an extremely accomplished athlete. If you speak to the
Speaker 3: trainers and stuff here that work work with him. But
Speaker 3: you know, people have always probably said, now you're too
Speaker 3: small to do this, or you're not going to be
Speaker 3: able to quite do this. You're not the right frame
Speaker 3: and they'll you know, and he loves proving people wrong.
Speaker 3: And that guy, you know, that guy helped him an
Speaker 3: awful lot because as soon as you know, again, Country
Speaker 3: and I like, we've we've tried to figure out some strategies,
Speaker 3: sometimes without really annoying him, you know, because you don't
Speaker 3: want to alienate a player. But how could we use
Speaker 3: that I want to prove you wrong mentality in a
Speaker 3: in a training system, you know, if you know, if
Speaker 3: we turn around him and say, well, you can't do this,
Speaker 3: he could construe that as well. These boys don't believe
Speaker 3: in me anymore. But whether it's like a guy in
Speaker 3: the crowd like that and he says, harmon, you don't
Speaker 3: have the stones for this, and Brian's just saw I'm
Speaker 3: going to show you who's.
Speaker 2: Got the stones for this.
Speaker 3: And and I think that was a you know, that
Speaker 3: was a lovely insight into, you know, some of the
Speaker 3: things that can create and assist some of these performances.
Speaker 3: Because I saw on the Golf channel David Valla the
Speaker 3: similar thing happened to him at the Open Championship that
Speaker 3: he won. Somebody said that like somewhere through the back nine.
Speaker 3: Don't worry the value of time to throw this away,
Speaker 3: I think when I'm definitely not going to throw this
Speaker 3: away now. So it's a it's an interesting study in
Speaker 3: psychology that but he did.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's coming off with two bogies. It's a
Speaker 1: flip and comment. The guy's probably been boozing all day.
Speaker 1: He obviously he doesn't know Brian at all, is just
Speaker 1: a spectator. But he says something. But I thought it was,
Speaker 1: like you said, a unique insight into the way he thinks.
Speaker 1: Because he said it really reset him, and that could
Speaker 1: go the other way too, right, I mean, you're you're
Speaker 1: just bogie two holes. You know you're playing against You're
Speaker 1: obviously not the favorite. I mean the two favorites last week,
Speaker 1: you know Tommy Fleetwood, and then you know the favorite
Speaker 1: every week is Roy McElroy, and the press makes him
Speaker 1: the favorite every week, regardless of how he's playing. But
Speaker 1: it was an interesting insight into he said it. It
Speaker 1: it gave him a little reset. I've heard other players
Speaker 1: say it's kind of a wake up call to where
Speaker 1: you go, oh, okay, now I need to focus in
Speaker 1: and really really kind of stick to what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, because
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a huge that's a huge turning point
Speaker 1: in a round that could have gone the other way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the word reset is a is a
Speaker 3: cool way of looking at it because I think ten
Speaker 3: years ago Brian might have got angered by that. But
Speaker 3: he uses the word reset, which is almost like, Okay,
Speaker 3: now I need to go back to the stuff that
Speaker 3: I'm doing really well and then proceed, And that's how
Speaker 3: I'm going to show them that I'm going to be
Speaker 3: able to do this. Rather than like being really angry
Speaker 3: and being upset with it all, he just reset, And
Speaker 3: I think I think if he's using it in that way,
Speaker 3: I think he's beginning to use some of the fuel
Speaker 3: in the right way that he may have may or
Speaker 3: may not have used it in the wrong way in
Speaker 3: the past.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at what this could do,
Speaker 1: I mean, even though he's in his mid thirties, but
Speaker 1: if you look at the caliber of players that were
Speaker 1: on that leader board. You know, we talked about it,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, I think it was dinner
Speaker 1: Friday night, you know, I said, listen, John Rahm's going
Speaker 1: to make a run, right, He's going to make a run.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just that good of a player. He's
Speaker 1: going to get out early. He's going to make a run.
Speaker 1: Rory was making a run. You had some elite, elite players.
Speaker 1: And what do you think this does for Brian's confidence?
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes to third and Ryder Cup six
Speaker 1: in the FedEx. He's top ten in the world now,
Speaker 1: in the world rankings, if you still believe in the
Speaker 1: world rankings, but he is now. I mean, on top
Speaker 1: of having a major championship, which he'll be a major
Speaker 1: champion for the rest of his life, this puts him
Speaker 1: in a really really interesting position for the remainder of
Speaker 1: the year. I mean, had he been talking at you
Speaker 1: guys on the team been talking about Ryder Cup at all,
Speaker 1: or or is that just something that out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: He goes to third and he is going to be
Speaker 1: on the plane going to Rome for the US T.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think we would.
Speaker 3: We would avoid those kind of outcome based expectational type
Speaker 3: of conversations with with Brian. It's he's much better as
Speaker 3: many are better served and continue to get into his
Speaker 3: process and do his work. I think that I think
Speaker 3: he got so lost in it that all of those things,
Speaker 3: you know, if they did rear there, if you know,
Speaker 3: he talked a little bit about thoughts coming to him
Speaker 3: and he was able just to go and think about
Speaker 3: something else.
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled for him. You know, he's played two walker cups.
Speaker 2: Like you say, he's.
Speaker 3: Had a an unbelievable pedigree, and that was one of
Speaker 3: the things that really surprised me that every time he
Speaker 3: looked like maybe having a wobble, he was able to
Speaker 3: resiliently move forwards. And I was also quite surprised that,
Speaker 3: you know, nobody else was able to kind of get
Speaker 3: up to the ten eleven under mark and really get
Speaker 3: after him, because you know, like you said, I mean,
Speaker 3: these are these were the best players.
Speaker 2: In the world.
Speaker 3: I thought Rory was playing for the most part, playing
Speaker 3: very very well. I think John Ram's an unbelievable player.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was thrilled to see Tommy Fleet would play so
Speaker 3: well in front of the galleries, and I was although
Speaker 3: I obviously had a dog in the fight, I was
Speaker 3: disappointed that he wasn't able to do anything on Sunday
Speaker 3: and a test them with the Tommy Fleet would one
Speaker 3: of the first things I saw when Brian was walking
Speaker 3: from the eighteenth to the to the scoring team. Was
Speaker 3: Tommy putting his arm around him and then congratulate him.
Speaker 3: And that's how good a human being Tommy Fleet would is.
Speaker 1: And the first person that he sees when he gets
Speaker 1: to scoring is Zach Johnson. I mean, obviously he's part
Speaker 1: of the whole Sea Island crew. How important is that
Speaker 1: crew that that? I mean, you're at Sea Island now.
Speaker 1: But Sea Island is one of those places very similar
Speaker 1: to to where I am down here in Jupiter, to
Speaker 1: where there are a ton of players. There's a bunch
Speaker 1: of people that play on tour. It has a it
Speaker 1: has a history and a tradition of having tour play.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about Sea Island and what do you
Speaker 1: feel like all those players being in that one area
Speaker 1: does not only for Brian, but for all of them.
Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the coolest things that they
Speaker 3: do is that they are friends. They hang out and
Speaker 3: they're extremely competitive, and frankly, I find that quite difficult,
Speaker 3: like if that was me, you know, and they pull
Speaker 3: for one another whenever they see things like what Brian's doing,
Speaker 3: you know, coming to fruition, and they also you know,
Speaker 3: they also are inwardly wanting to win at all at
Speaker 3: all costs, and I think it's a very very healthy thing,
Speaker 3: you know. I see Paton and Harris and Brian. You know,
Speaker 3: they'll play some practice rounds together and they'll have some
Speaker 3: fun together. But at the same time, you know, once
Speaker 3: the gloves come off, they want to win, and you
Speaker 3: know they're doing a.
Speaker 2: Nice job here.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the performance center is incredible. I think the varied
Speaker 3: weather that we get down here is helpful for them.
Speaker 3: We've got some really really good variants in our golf
Speaker 3: courses Ocean.
Speaker 2: For US Frederica and the three courses here at uh
Speaker 2: at Sea Island.
Speaker 3: So I think it's uh, you know, it's a kind
Speaker 3: of a cool project to be a part of. I
Speaker 3: go down to Florida, but as you know, to see
Speaker 3: Gracie and and and those sorts of guys, and I
Speaker 3: get a sort of a similar feel sometimes at the
Speaker 3: Bears Club. I think there's you know, there's some some
Speaker 3: cool stuff going on. I don't know whether you guys
Speaker 3: all see one another as much as we would here
Speaker 3: with you know, there's not that many you know, restaurants
Speaker 3: and bits and pieces, so there's a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that see one another socially
Speaker 3: here too. But you know, it's pretty cool with with
Speaker 3: the performance center, Randy and Tom doing the fitness stuff,
Speaker 3: Phil coming in and out with his with his putting work.
Speaker 2: You know, we've got a we've got a really good
Speaker 2: backbone here for for people to get better when they're
Speaker 2: when they're at home.
Speaker 1: You know, Jp, One of the things that that I
Speaker 1: love about you as a coach is that you don't
Speaker 1: have a method, you don't have a theory, you don't
Speaker 1: have a swing that you're trying to teach everyone. You
Speaker 1: work with players of all different shapes and sizes that
Speaker 1: work that hit the ball very very different. Is that
Speaker 1: by design? Is that something that was important to you
Speaker 1: to to kind of see the player as as as
Speaker 1: an individual, as opposed to saying, Okay, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: my ideas and I'm going to put them on the
Speaker 1: players that come to work with me.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, without without being dogmatic, I can't I
Speaker 3: can't really think that there is any other way to
Speaker 3: do it. I just I can't understand how we could
Speaker 3: ever treat two or five or eight individuals in the
Speaker 3: same way and expect to get the same results. So
Speaker 3: you know, for me, it's it's you know, I absolutely
Speaker 3: understand the question. I think it's an excellent question, but
Speaker 3: I don't I don't really understand how it could be
Speaker 3: done any other way because all these people like you know,
Speaker 3: and and and you and I are in the same
Speaker 3: boat with that. They're all so different. They've learned different things.
Speaker 3: They've they've had different parents, they've grown up playing different sports,
Speaker 3: they see out of different eyes, they be there different.
Speaker 3: You know, they're left handed, right handed, their their bodies
Speaker 3: are different, their brains are different. So you know, for me,
Speaker 3: it's just it just doesn't make any sense to do
Speaker 3: it any other way than to sit down with each
Speaker 3: person as an individual. And yeah, I think I would
Speaker 3: have learned an awful lot a lot of that through
Speaker 3: you know, what your family do and how they've seen
Speaker 3: golf and helped people to play better golf, and they're
Speaker 3: you know, I think it's your daughter always said, we're
Speaker 3: not you know, we're here to teach. We're teach people
Speaker 3: to play golf. We're not teaching golf to people. So
Speaker 3: you know, the human being always kind of comes first.
Speaker 1: For me, you made a big decision you know, you
Speaker 1: and I worked together. I moved to Dubai in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I think I hired you in the summer. Easily.
Speaker 1: One of the smartest and best decisions that I ever
Speaker 1: made was was hiring you to be on my team.
Speaker 1: And I lived in Dubai for three years. You ran
Speaker 1: our academy there. You can get really comfortable in Dubai.
Speaker 1: It's a great place to live. It's an easy place
Speaker 1: to live. The decision when I remember you called me
Speaker 1: and said there was an opportunity for you to go
Speaker 1: to Sea Island, and you were a bit hesitant. You know,
Speaker 1: young kids, young family, you know, great lifestyle. Obviously it
Speaker 1: worked out, but your changes are tough to make. That
Speaker 1: process of saying okay, I'm going to pick up my
Speaker 1: family and move from Dubai and move to America. Talk
Speaker 1: me through the process at South Georgia. I mean, I
Speaker 1: keep telling you if you get a pickup truck and
Speaker 1: and and and where the pinpoint belt and start hunting,
Speaker 1: you and I aren't going to be friends anymore, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, But but it must have been a big decision.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done it. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: people have, but it's a daunting decision to move to
Speaker 1: another country and and and hope it's all going to
Speaker 1: work out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean the guys that having done some research about
Speaker 3: Sea Islander, you know, it's a very very classy organization,
Speaker 3: they're not gonna they're not going to entertain hiring someone
Speaker 3: without really wanting them to be a part of the
Speaker 3: kind of the family here. And they've been, you know,
Speaker 3: they've been absolutely unbelievable. I always thought of Dubai as
Speaker 3: really more of a young man or young woman's time,
Speaker 3: you know. I think it's it's a fabulous place to be,
Speaker 3: you know, Claude, it's fast, it's ever changing. People move
Speaker 3: in and out of different different positions.
Speaker 2: So as a father of two kids at that point,
Speaker 2: who were you.
Speaker 3: Know, what's Henry Molly was maybe seven or so at
Speaker 3: or six and Henry was three or four, you know,
Speaker 3: something like that, I'm thinking to myself, like Dubai is
Speaker 3: it's it's a brilliant place, but it's also it can
Speaker 3: be quite transient and things can move pretty fast, you know,
Speaker 3: the goalposts can shift a bit. So I think I
Speaker 3: saw some stability and pursuing something different. I was also
Speaker 3: traveling as you know, I was helping Peter Uline, Louis
Speaker 3: Ustaus and Charles Schwartzel.
Speaker 2: At the time.
Speaker 3: And you know, again as a young young ash father
Speaker 3: going from Dubai to la and Dubai to Fort Lauderdale,
Speaker 3: and I remember pitching up at your house and you know,
Speaker 3: at seven in the evening and fall asleep on your
Speaker 3: clutch you if, you know, it was it's a it's
Speaker 3: a hard lifestyle and trying to travel like that. So
Speaker 3: it was becoming clear to me that I either embrace
Speaker 3: the role of trying to teach some of the better
Speaker 3: players in the world or or kind of stay put
Speaker 3: somewhere a little bit more. And you know, I felt
Speaker 3: like I still really wanted to do that, and I'm
Speaker 3: still very passionate about about doing that. And you know,
Speaker 3: see Islands giving me the chance to kind of do
Speaker 3: a little bit of both, you know, be able to
Speaker 3: you know, do some teaching here when I'm at home.
Speaker 3: You know, a pretty quick flight from Jacksonville at Lander
Speaker 3: or Brunswick to Atlanta to get to most of the
Speaker 3: the tour venues.
Speaker 2: That we go to.
Speaker 3: And you know, a beautiful environment here for kids to
Speaker 3: grow up in.
Speaker 2: You know, the islands.
Speaker 3: The island's beautiful, they've got some some independence, they've got
Speaker 3: some good friends that they run around with, and they're
Speaker 3: in and out of swimming pools and so yeah, so far,
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 1: Obviously, there's a long list of major champions to come
Speaker 1: out of Northern Ireland, but you're you're now part of
Speaker 1: that fabric of major championships as well. I think every
Speaker 1: country needs role models for young instructors. And I think
Speaker 1: you may not have thought of this, but there'll be
Speaker 1: someone that's teaching on a driving range in you know, Banger,
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere where it's not great, where the weather's
Speaker 1: not good, where the ranges aren't good, that will see,
Speaker 1: you know, Justin Parsons, who's from Hollywood Golf Club, has
Speaker 1: worked with a major champion. Have you let your mind
Speaker 1: think about you know what that means from you know,
Speaker 1: a Northern Ireland standpoint, And.
Speaker 2: I don't know a little bit.
Speaker 3: I mean I think I think, like you know, you
Speaker 3: and I have talked about it's it's nice to it's
Speaker 3: nice to consider that you could use some of the
Speaker 3: achievements that you've had and players have had to try
Speaker 3: to give a bit back.
Speaker 2: I think you get to.
Speaker 3: Again to our sort of stage where you know, and
Speaker 3: I know you do some of this with you know,
Speaker 3: with your broadcasting and things that got but to get
Speaker 3: a bit back and to try and try and help
Speaker 3: some people along the way, it's it's amazing. I mean,
Speaker 3: the minded text messages and WhatsApps and stuff on Instagram
Speaker 3: and things that that I've got, it's it's really quite
Speaker 3: humbling to to consider that you're in that kind of
Speaker 3: group of people who are who are thought of in
Speaker 3: that way. So, you know, as I sort of process
Speaker 3: it and try and figure figure some stuff out, I
Speaker 3: would like to try and arrange how to how to
Speaker 3: give a bit back with with people and and you know,
Speaker 3: like I was very fortunate to get to become a
Speaker 3: part of your family and be trained and taught and
Speaker 3: helped by you know, the first family of golf instruction,
Speaker 3: I mean, and some of those boys and girls back
Speaker 3: there doing that won't maybe have that chance. But maybe
Speaker 3: if I can give a week bit back to them
Speaker 3: and help them on the way, I would like to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: Has my dad messaged you multiple times?
Speaker 3: Yes, he was very he was very excited. You know,
Speaker 3: he's been he's been amazing to me, you know, his
Speaker 3: his his approach with treating the human being. He's like
Speaker 3: a chameleon, as you've you've seen many more times than
Speaker 3: I have. His ability to communicate with each and in
Speaker 3: every individual in a slightly more nuanced and different way,
Speaker 3: you know, belittles his uh you know, his his rogue
Speaker 3: americanisms sometimes and he you know, I remember seeing him teach,
Speaker 3: you know, people who were kind of religious and good living,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he'd be like a like
Speaker 3: a pastor or a preacher. And then you know, some
Speaker 3: of the boys who liked to gamble and go to
Speaker 3: Vegas for other reasons, and all of a sudden he
Speaker 3: turned into the frock boy again.
Speaker 2: And I was always I was always in, you know,
Speaker 2: in great admiration for you know, the guy who I
Speaker 2: think is probably the best that there's ever been at
Speaker 2: what we do.
Speaker 1: JP you you've left, You've left on Saturday. You had
Speaker 1: a player who's had a five shot lead going into Saturday.
Speaker 1: You had a player that had a five shot lead
Speaker 1: going into Sunday, and you chose to go home. It
Speaker 1: was your daughter's eleventh birthday. And I gotta be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I was surprised you took off, not because
Speaker 1: I think you could have affected the outcome, but because
Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough to be a part of players
Speaker 1: winning major championships before, and it is a very unique thing.
Speaker 1: But you said something that has really stuck with me.
Speaker 1: You said, listen, my daughter's eleven before she goes away
Speaker 1: to college. How many more birthdays am I going to
Speaker 1: be a part of? And I think it's a testament
Speaker 1: to the type of person you are that you could
Speaker 1: have easily stayed and been standing on the eighteenth Green
Speaker 1: and give Brian a big hug and been a part
Speaker 1: of it and seen it up close, and but you
Speaker 1: chose to get on an airplane Saturday and go home.
Speaker 1: That was a strange one for me. I want I
Speaker 1: as much as I wanted you to be there for
Speaker 1: Molly's birthday, selfishly, from a professional standpoint, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be there to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, truthfully, I thought of like, she's.
Speaker 3: Not quite at an age where she understands the gravity
Speaker 3: of what happened on suddenly from a professional perspective, but
Speaker 3: you know, and at some point she will be at
Speaker 3: an age where she realizes that I came home.
Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's the balance, right, I mean
Speaker 1: the balance in what we do is trying to balance
Speaker 1: you know, the players, the travel, and then the work life.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, out of all the people
Speaker 1: that are currently doing it what we do, I think
Speaker 1: you do an amazing job at trying to balance all
Speaker 1: of it very well, because you know, I'm I'm terrible
Speaker 1: at it. I'm you know, I'm I'm not good at
Speaker 1: I'm not good at the work life balance. That's for sure.
Speaker 2: Well on the caveat in there, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to say this is we finished off
Speaker 3: that little putting session on Friday and I and I
Speaker 3: gave Brian a high five and I said, and I
Speaker 3: can't held all his hand. And I said, I'm already
Speaker 3: here tomorrow unless you need me. And he said, no,
Speaker 3: go home. You're you're doing my birthday party, aren't you.
Speaker 2: I went yeah.
Speaker 3: He said no, I'd go from here, don't worry about it,
Speaker 3: and had he said, JP, this is this is a
Speaker 3: big week. I'd love you to stay and hang on.
Speaker 3: I'd be the first one on Delta to put that
Speaker 3: to Monday. But he did, you know, and I checked
Speaker 3: with him and if he had needed me, I would
Speaker 3: have been there for him and I'd have probably ended
Speaker 3: up having to buy Molly a.
Speaker 2: Horse or something like that.
Speaker 3: But you know, and that's just the way that the
Speaker 3: way that I wanted it to be. So if he
Speaker 3: didn't need me, I'm sticking the planet.
Speaker 1: Well, it was lonely in the house on Saturday night,
Speaker 1: the curry and the red wine didn't taste is good.
Speaker 1: But honestly, mate, I mean you and I have You're
Speaker 1: the brother I never had, and you know I never
Speaker 1: had a brother, And you know, I've learned an enormous
Speaker 1: amount from you, and you've been such a a stabilizing
Speaker 1: and positive person in my life. And you know, I
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't be where I am today without you and
Speaker 1: oh your help. So I'm proud of you.
Speaker 3: And well, I think if we haven't met, I think
Speaker 3: at some point a situation in a Dubai bank probably
Speaker 3: would have taken you into some sort of jail for
Speaker 3: couple of years that I tried to come.
Speaker 2: You know, for those of you who.
Speaker 3: Don't know, the story club is asked to sign, I
Speaker 3: think you were asked to sign fifty two checks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you buy a car, when you buy a
Speaker 1: car in Dubai, you have to have you have to
Speaker 1: you're making payments, and you have to sign a check
Speaker 1: for each one.
Speaker 3: They probably have they probably have modernized that since two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight or two thousand and nine, So forgive
Speaker 3: us for.
Speaker 2: But they did, and they put it in a safety deposit. One.
Speaker 2: So you got fifty two checks from the bank.
Speaker 1: And I specifically asked you went with me when we
Speaker 1: when I was buying the car, and I said, do
Speaker 1: I need more checks because I have to go to
Speaker 1: the bank to get more checks, And they said, no,
Speaker 1: fifty two. So we went to the bank, we got
Speaker 1: the fifty two checks, and we went back in signed
Speaker 1: all fifty two of them. And then they said, and
Speaker 1: now you need one more check for the total value
Speaker 1: of the car. So now we had to go back
Speaker 1: to Dubiden. We had to go back to Emerts mall.
Speaker 2: And Emerts yeah, Emirates NBD, isn't it ever? And we
Speaker 2: uh and then and I thought you were going to
Speaker 2: have a problem with mister Muhammad what was it Muhammad
Speaker 2: Sharif I think his name might have been or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Well, when he told when he told me, I wasn't
Speaker 1: signing my name my signature. He said, you're signing your
Speaker 1: name improperly, and and you put your hand, you put
Speaker 1: your hand on my shoulder and said, breathe, breathe, breathe.
Speaker 3: I did for you what you did for me on Sunday.
Speaker 3: So we're kind of we're even there, but no, I
Speaker 3: appreciate all the all love and support club. We've we've
Speaker 3: been a good old we've had a good old run
Speaker 3: out and it's it's special for me to do this
Speaker 3: and have a have a talk with you.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't tell you how proud I am of you.
Speaker 1: I love you, and you are one of the best
Speaker 1: in the world at what you do. And this certainly
Speaker 1: isn't going to be the last major you're going to
Speaker 1: be involved with. So thanks for coming back on and
Speaker 1: talking to us and enjoy it. You're going to see
Speaker 1: Brian win.
Speaker 3: Hopefully, Brian's gonna fly back on Friday. He went he
Speaker 3: went to Syracuse, which was the plan, to to see
Speaker 3: his family. You know, Kelly and the kids have been
Speaker 3: up there for for a week or so, so I
Speaker 3: would imagine.
Speaker 2: That he'll he'll probably need a little bit of.
Speaker 3: Rest, which he may or may not get with his
Speaker 3: three beautiful young children, but he'll.
Speaker 2: He'll be back here Friday. I have no idea. I
Speaker 2: don't even know whether he's going to play Windham.
Speaker 1: Yet, he'll sure as hell doesn't need to.
Speaker 2: He does not need to anymore. No, but you know,
Speaker 2: you know what these guys are like.
Speaker 3: Maybe that was on the schedule and there were there
Speaker 3: were things going on, but you know, we're probably looking
Speaker 3: forward to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: The Ryder Cup will be decided when it's decided. But
Speaker 2: I do hope that he you know, here is a
Speaker 2: place there and it'll be nice for him to to
Speaker 2: maintain that sort of top six thing.
Speaker 1: He's third on the list with two events left. He
Speaker 1: can't fall. He is going to be on the team
Speaker 1: in Rome. You don't have anything to worry about. Enjoyed
Speaker 1: drinking out of the Cleric jug. I got to do
Speaker 1: it once with Ernie Els and it's pretty special. And
Speaker 1: make sure you pour something in there that's good. I
Speaker 1: see it. So that was justin Parsons And like I said,
Speaker 1: he's a hell of an instructor, but he's a better person.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there are many instructors with a
Speaker 1: player trying to win their first major as a player
Speaker 1: and as a coach having a player win their first major,
Speaker 1: not a lot of people would fly home, but he
Speaker 1: flew home for his daughter's birthday. And I think that
Speaker 1: says a hell of a lot about him as a
Speaker 1: human being. And he is one of the good ones.
Speaker 1: And I am so so proud of him, proud to
Speaker 1: call him a friend, and proud to watch all the
Speaker 1: work that he does. So the Major's twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: in the books John Rahm, Brooks Kepka, Wyndham Clark, and
Speaker 1: now Brian Harmon, And don't think a lot of people
Speaker 1: would have picked him, but early in the week it
Speaker 1: just had. I've seen Brian Harmon play well before he
Speaker 1: took the lead into Aaron Hills in twenty seventeen, when
Speaker 1: brooks Kepka won. When I was working with Brooks in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and I had a friend from the US saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: give me a dark horse pick that nobody's looking at.
Speaker 1: And this was on Wednesday. I said bet Ham, Brian Harmon,
Speaker 1: and he was like, what I said, Brian Harmon, It's
Speaker 1: the perfect kind of golf course for him. And I
Speaker 1: mentioned in one of the practice rounds to Brooks that
Speaker 1: I was staying with JP that week and I said,
Speaker 1: this is a good golf course for Brian Harmon and
Speaker 1: PK said yeah, I mean this perfect golf course for
Speaker 1: the type of golf that he plays. And it turned
Speaker 1: out to be true. So that it's the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three major championships in the books. Two weeks left on
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, We got Ryder Cup coming up live,
Speaker 1: still has a bunch of events and then the Fall Series,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what this does for Brian Harmon and
Speaker 1: his career. Son of a Butcher comes to you every Wednesday.
Speaker 1: We will see you all next week.