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Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to

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Speaker 1: you every Wednesday. This week's guest Justin Parsons. Justin's been

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Speaker 1: on the pod before, but we had to get him

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Speaker 1: back on this week coming off the Open Championship that

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Speaker 1: Brian Harmon won. JP is the coach of Brian Harmon.

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Speaker 1: We shared a house last week not far from Hoylake

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Speaker 1: and it was a very very It was a really

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Speaker 1: special experience for me JP and I. He's one of

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Speaker 1: my closest friends and you know, someone who I have

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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of respect for, and we just huddled in,

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Speaker 1: we we cooked, we ordered in food, and it was

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Speaker 1: it was a really really special week. And to see

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Speaker 1: Brian Harmon get it done and to see JP be

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Speaker 1: part of a major championship is it's pretty special. And

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Speaker 1: I hired JP. I moved to Dubai in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and just I just I just he had something and

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Speaker 1: I sent him a message. I was pretty tough on

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Speaker 1: him in the beginning when he worked for He worked

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Speaker 1: for me for three years, and then when I left

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Speaker 1: and I was pretty hard on him, and uh, there

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Speaker 1: were some tough times at the beginning, but I sent

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Speaker 1: him a message on Sunday night that now he knows

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Speaker 1: why I was so hard on him, because I just

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Speaker 1: knew that he he could do what he's done and

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Speaker 1: in the world. So really excited to get an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to talk to him again. And I think everybody's going

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Speaker 1: to enjoy it. So sit back and enjoy listening to

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Speaker 1: Justin Parsons. So justin your first major championship as a coach,

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Speaker 1: what was it? Was it different than you thought it

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Speaker 1: was going to be? And what's the last forty eight

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: I think when you texted me and told me to

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Speaker 3: walk around the room and keep breathing, I think I

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Speaker 3: actually kind of helped because I think at one point

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Speaker 3: I was setting hence not breathing, which isn't you know

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Speaker 3: as you approach our tender years, it's not a good

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Speaker 3: way to be blood pressure spiking.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was nerve wracking, plod I you know, I couldn't

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Speaker 3: of that seventeenth green. I think he was he's in

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Speaker 3: too good a space to hit to do anything silly

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Speaker 3: down the last, but that's seventeenth hole, Like you could

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Speaker 3: nearly make anything there if you've got you know, if

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Speaker 3: you've got something wrong off the tee and got some

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Speaker 3: was like out there, it was it was carnage waiting

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Speaker 1: He's he's a very interesting player, you know. He he

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Speaker 1: does so many things well, but he's never been thought

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Speaker 1: of as a superstar. But if you think about it,

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Speaker 1: JP from an amateur standpoint up until Brian Harmon turned pro,

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Speaker 1: he basically did everything that you would say would be

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Speaker 1: the prototype to becoming a superstar on the PGA Tour

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Speaker 1: based off of what he did as a as a

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you and your dad have always helped

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Speaker 3: me with that. Like, you know, you want to see

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Speaker 3: what a player's really capable of. Who did he beat

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Speaker 3: when he was fourteen? How many people was he beaten

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Speaker 3: when he was eighteen, How was he as an amateur?

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Speaker 3: What was he like in college? And as you've just said,

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Speaker 3: you know, Brian was an absolute superstar, you know, really

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Speaker 3: whatever reason, the Open Championship he embraced all of it.

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Speaker 3: And he made it, you know, like you and I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've been lucky enough to be a part

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Speaker 1: But we spend so much time around these players. You know,

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Speaker 1: You can see when they're in good moods. They don't

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Speaker 1: You can see when things are all Was there anything

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Speaker 3: There was definitely some sort of psychological shift, There's no

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Speaker 3: We we've done some things at the back end of

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Speaker 3: the Renaissance Club started taking ice bats, which you know,

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Speaker 2: And it was weird. I said to again, I said

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Speaker 2: I said, you know, Brian's had a bit of an

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Speaker 3: Good conversations, a lot of humor of Renaissance and and

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Speaker 1: You mentioned playing. I mean, you grew up wanting to

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Speaker 3: I think that probably happened a bit later. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Know it was. It was never massively part of your

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Speaker 3: You weren't in a position where you ever really wanted

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just so. I think we were a

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Speaker 2: certainly it's a I wouldn't say it's that. I think when,

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Speaker 3: Be able to be a part of a team of

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's not that many people like that around,

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Speaker 3: it just makes it. It makes it even more weird.

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Speaker 3: You know, Brian sent me a text last night. They

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Speaker 3: I think he must have texted me from the plane

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Speaker 1: Oh that's I mean, that's amazing. I mean, what are

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Speaker 1: and I said to Brooks, I said, he just hold

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Speaker 1: it's game over now, he said, because he's got two

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Speaker 1: one of the impressive things JP he slept on a

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Speaker 1: you know, we were overdosing on curry and red wine

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Speaker 1: and you kept asking me questions. I mean, I remember

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Speaker 1: what's what's going to happen. Who's the threat. I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: And I think what was really impressive is he didn't

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Speaker 1: as the rounds went on, he really seemed to calm

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're probably right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the advice that you gave me

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Speaker 3: texted me and said.

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Speaker 2: You know what am I going to do now?

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Speaker 3: With with Brian until three point thirty on Saturday, which

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Speaker 3: So there is a distinct competitive advantage there. I have

438
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Speaker 3: not I would say that he's been a really elite

439
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 3: level driver of the golf ball for a long long time,

440
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: you know, really since he went on tour and you.

441
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: Know, country let him, lets him go with the driver.

442
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 2: And the other thing.

443
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Speaker 3: I think with the speed he's he's very rarely like

444
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 3: one rep max speed with his driver.

445
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 2: He's extremely versatile.

446
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: He tees a lot of them low hits, little squeezers hits,

447
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: some little off speed ones, and so he is positioning

448
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 3: it because you know, I know we've worked here. You know,

449
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 3: I've seen him do fifteen in a row about one

450
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: hundred and between one hundred and seventy one hundred and

451
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: seventy two ball speed. But then I'll sometimes look and

452
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 3: he'll hit driver and it'll be a one fifty eight.

453
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: But he's just probably teed at low and kind of

454
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 3: squeezed it out there and gone a little bit of run.

455
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: And again, you know he's got an advantage from that.

456
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned the putting. He gained almost twelve strokes and

457
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: strokes game putting fifty eight out of fifty nine from

458
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: ten feet. He mentioned that he found something in Scotland

459
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: the week before, got a little training, aid what do

460
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Speaker 1: you put down? I mean the elite, elite putting that

461
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: he put on display last week at Hoylight.

462
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Speaker 3: Well he is, like he said, I would say, I

463
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: remember Phil Kenyon. You know Phil works here, and Phil

464
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: had to look at him, and you know, Phil and

465
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: I were kind of comparing notes because Phil knows that

466
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to kind of keep assuming that kind of

467
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: the overall the head coach role is such an and

468
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: Phil said, look, this guy's been in top fifty and

469
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 3: putting for eleven years, so he is a really really

470
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: good putter, so he must be mindful of that. Like,

471
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: it's not we're not going into We're not going into

472
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: this with someone who's really maybe not very good at it,

473
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: and we need to make a real wholesale change. But

474
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 3: in looking at the mechanics of it again, Tennessee, similar

475
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: to the full swing, aims a little too far to

476
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: the right, tends to kind of hood the face on

477
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 3: the way back backside of it a little bit on

478
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: the way in, and kind of pushes a few putts.

479
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: So the little template that he got just encouraged the

480
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: correct amount of rotation for his stroke. When he gets

481
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: that little bit of rotation and he has a beautiful

482
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Speaker 3: release on it, his head doesn't back out of it

483
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: at all, and he really gets a rolling end o Bran.

484
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Speaker 2: I think the greens being those sort of flat greens.

485
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: I think when you get as good a role on

486
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: it as he gets, I can imagine that you know,

487
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: you're kind of going just up against your alignment because

488
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: he's he's hitting the golf ball beautifully. And I think

489
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: you could see.

490
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Speaker 3: A lot of his putts were hit what appeared to

491
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: me to be fairly straight, and they held their line

492
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: and they went in the center of the hole from

493
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Speaker 3: various distances. And again the links courses like that, you

494
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 3: know a lot of them. The burrows are very subtle,

495
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: and as long as your alignment and your your strike

496
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Speaker 3: is really good, you've got a chance.

497
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Speaker 1: To me, one of the marks of a great putter

498
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: is you never see a different putter in their bag.

499
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: He's got a I mean, I think it was the

500
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: first of the big kind of tailor made putters. I mean,

501
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: it's a massive putter. It's a game improvement type putter.

502
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: But he rolls shit out of it, and he doesn't

503
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: he never does he mess around with putters. He doesn't

504
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: strike me as I mean, I've never seen him with

505
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: another putter in the back.

506
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: He's classic. He sometimes he'll turn up with another putter,

507
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: you know, and he'll put with it for a bet.

508
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: I said, you're gonna use this?

509
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: He goes, no, I'm just making the other one jealous

510
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: for a minute.

511
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Speaker 1: He mentioned that on Saturday after I think two bogies

512
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: in a row, a spectator said to him as he

513
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: was walking from tee to green or from the green

514
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: to the next, he made a comment that you don't

515
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: have the stones for this. And he mentioned it in

516
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: his press conference and he said with a smile on

517
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: his face, that helped on tour. Brian has a reputation

518
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: for being a killer, of being someone that isn't out

519
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: there to make friends. He's not trying to be the

520
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: most liked, and I think one of his big strength

521
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: is the fact that he's mean and he likes the fight.

522
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no quote.

523
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: I mean I think it probably stems from you'll never

524
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: be in the tallest veggest. You know, he's a very

525
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: he's an extremely accomplished athlete. If you speak to the

526
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: trainers and stuff here that work work with him. But

527
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 3: you know, people have always probably said, now you're too

528
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: small to do this, or you're not going to be

529
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: able to quite do this. You're not the right frame

530
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: and they'll you know, and he loves proving people wrong.

531
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: And that guy, you know, that guy helped him an

532
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: awful lot because as soon as you know, again, Country

533
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: and I like, we've we've tried to figure out some strategies,

534
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: sometimes without really annoying him, you know, because you don't

535
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: want to alienate a player. But how could we use

536
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: that I want to prove you wrong mentality in a

537
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: in a training system, you know, if you know, if

538
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: we turn around him and say, well, you can't do this,

539
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: he could construe that as well. These boys don't believe

540
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: in me anymore. But whether it's like a guy in

541
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: the crowd like that and he says, harmon, you don't

542
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: have the stones for this, and Brian's just saw I'm

543
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: going to show you who's.

544
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: Got the stones for this.

545
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: And and I think that was a you know, that

546
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: was a lovely insight into, you know, some of the

547
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: things that can create and assist some of these performances.

548
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: Because I saw on the Golf channel David Valla the

549
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: similar thing happened to him at the Open Championship that

550
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: he won. Somebody said that like somewhere through the back nine.

551
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: Don't worry the value of time to throw this away,

552
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 3: I think when I'm definitely not going to throw this

553
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: away now. So it's a it's an interesting study in

554
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: psychology that but he did.

555
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: I mean, he's coming off with two bogies. It's a

556
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: flip and comment. The guy's probably been boozing all day.

557
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: He obviously he doesn't know Brian at all, is just

558
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: a spectator. But he says something. But I thought it was,

559
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: like you said, a unique insight into the way he thinks.

560
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: Because he said it really reset him, and that could

561
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: go the other way too, right, I mean, you're you're

562
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: just bogie two holes. You know you're playing against You're

563
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: obviously not the favorite. I mean the two favorites last week,

564
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: you know Tommy Fleetwood, and then you know the favorite

565
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: every week is Roy McElroy, and the press makes him

566
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: the favorite every week, regardless of how he's playing. But

567
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: it was an interesting insight into he said it. It

568
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: it gave him a little reset. I've heard other players

569
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: say it's kind of a wake up call to where

570
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: you go, oh, okay, now I need to focus in

571
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: and really really kind of stick to what I'm doing.

572
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, because

573
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a huge that's a huge turning point

574
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: in a round that could have gone the other way.

575
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the word reset is a is a

576
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: cool way of looking at it because I think ten

577
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 3: years ago Brian might have got angered by that. But

578
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: he uses the word reset, which is almost like, Okay,

579
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: now I need to go back to the stuff that

580
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: I'm doing really well and then proceed, And that's how

581
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: I'm going to show them that I'm going to be

582
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: able to do this. Rather than like being really angry

583
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: and being upset with it all, he just reset, And

584
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: I think I think if he's using it in that way,

585
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: I think he's beginning to use some of the fuel

586
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: in the right way that he may have may or

587
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: may not have used it in the wrong way in

588
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 3: the past.

589
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at what this could do,

590
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: I mean, even though he's in his mid thirties, but

591
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: if you look at the caliber of players that were

592
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: on that leader board. You know, we talked about it,

593
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, I think it was dinner

594
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: Friday night, you know, I said, listen, John Rahm's going

595
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: to make a run, right, He's going to make a run.

596
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just that good of a player. He's

597
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: going to get out early. He's going to make a run.

598
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Rory was making a run. You had some elite, elite players.

599
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: And what do you think this does for Brian's confidence?

600
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes to third and Ryder Cup six

601
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: in the FedEx. He's top ten in the world now,

602
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: in the world rankings, if you still believe in the

603
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: world rankings, but he is now. I mean, on top

604
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: of having a major championship, which he'll be a major

605
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: champion for the rest of his life, this puts him

606
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: in a really really interesting position for the remainder of

607
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: the year. I mean, had he been talking at you

608
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: guys on the team been talking about Ryder Cup at all,

609
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: or or is that just something that out of nowhere.

610
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: He goes to third and he is going to be

611
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: on the plane going to Rome for the US T.

612
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think we would.

613
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: We would avoid those kind of outcome based expectational type

614
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: of conversations with with Brian. It's he's much better as

615
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: many are better served and continue to get into his

616
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: process and do his work. I think that I think

617
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: he got so lost in it that all of those things,

618
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: you know, if they did rear there, if you know,

619
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 3: he talked a little bit about thoughts coming to him

620
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: and he was able just to go and think about

621
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: something else.

622
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled for him. You know, he's played two walker cups.

623
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Speaker 2: Like you say, he's.

624
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: Had a an unbelievable pedigree, and that was one of

625
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: the things that really surprised me that every time he

626
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 3: looked like maybe having a wobble, he was able to

627
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: resiliently move forwards. And I was also quite surprised that,

628
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: you know, nobody else was able to kind of get

629
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: up to the ten eleven under mark and really get

630
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: after him, because you know, like you said, I mean,

631
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: these are these were the best players.

632
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: In the world.

633
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: I thought Rory was playing for the most part, playing

634
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: very very well. I think John Ram's an unbelievable player.

635
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: I was.

636
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: I was thrilled to see Tommy Fleet would play so

637
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: well in front of the galleries, and I was although

638
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: I obviously had a dog in the fight, I was

639
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: disappointed that he wasn't able to do anything on Sunday

640
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: and a test them with the Tommy Fleet would one

641
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: of the first things I saw when Brian was walking

642
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: from the eighteenth to the to the scoring team. Was

643
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: Tommy putting his arm around him and then congratulate him.

644
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: And that's how good a human being Tommy Fleet would is.

645
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: And the first person that he sees when he gets

646
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: to scoring is Zach Johnson. I mean, obviously he's part

647
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: of the whole Sea Island crew. How important is that

648
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: crew that that? I mean, you're at Sea Island now.

649
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: But Sea Island is one of those places very similar

650
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: to to where I am down here in Jupiter, to

651
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: where there are a ton of players. There's a bunch

652
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: of people that play on tour. It has a it

653
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: has a history and a tradition of having tour play.

654
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Talk to me about Sea Island and what do you

655
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: feel like all those players being in that one area

656
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: does not only for Brian, but for all of them.

657
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the coolest things that they

658
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: do is that they are friends. They hang out and

659
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: they're extremely competitive, and frankly, I find that quite difficult,

660
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: like if that was me, you know, and they pull

661
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: for one another whenever they see things like what Brian's doing,

662
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: you know, coming to fruition, and they also you know,

663
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: they also are inwardly wanting to win at all at

664
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: all costs, and I think it's a very very healthy thing,

665
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: you know. I see Paton and Harris and Brian. You know,

666
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: they'll play some practice rounds together and they'll have some

667
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: fun together. But at the same time, you know, once

668
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: the gloves come off, they want to win, and you

669
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: know they're doing a.

670
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: Nice job here.

671
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: Obviously, the performance center is incredible. I think the varied

672
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: weather that we get down here is helpful for them.

673
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: We've got some really really good variants in our golf

674
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: courses Ocean.

675
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: For US Frederica and the three courses here at uh

676
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: at Sea Island.

677
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: So I think it's uh, you know, it's a kind

678
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: of a cool project to be a part of. I

679
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: go down to Florida, but as you know, to see

680
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: Gracie and and and those sorts of guys, and I

681
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: get a sort of a similar feel sometimes at the

682
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: Bears Club. I think there's you know, there's some some

683
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: cool stuff going on. I don't know whether you guys

684
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: all see one another as much as we would here

685
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: with you know, there's not that many you know, restaurants

686
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: and bits and pieces, so there's a lot of you know,

687
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that see one another socially

688
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: here too. But you know, it's pretty cool with with

689
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: the performance center, Randy and Tom doing the fitness stuff,

690
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: Phil coming in and out with his with his putting work.

691
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: You know, we've got a we've got a really good

692
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: backbone here for for people to get better when they're

693
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: when they're at home.

694
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: You know, Jp, One of the things that that I

695
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: love about you as a coach is that you don't

696
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: have a method, you don't have a theory, you don't

697
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: have a swing that you're trying to teach everyone. You

698
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: work with players of all different shapes and sizes that

699
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: work that hit the ball very very different. Is that

700
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: by design? Is that something that was important to you

701
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: to to kind of see the player as as as

702
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: an individual, as opposed to saying, Okay, I'm gonna have

703
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: my ideas and I'm going to put them on the

704
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: players that come to work with me.

705
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: Well, you know, without without being dogmatic, I can't I

706
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: can't really think that there is any other way to

707
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: do it. I just I can't understand how we could

708
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: ever treat two or five or eight individuals in the

709
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: same way and expect to get the same results. So

710
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: you know, for me, it's it's you know, I absolutely

711
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: understand the question. I think it's an excellent question, but

712
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: I don't I don't really understand how it could be

713
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 3: done any other way because all these people like you know,

714
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: and and and you and I are in the same

715
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: boat with that. They're all so different. They've learned different things.

716
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: They've they've had different parents, they've grown up playing different sports,

717
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: they see out of different eyes, they be there different.

718
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 3: You know, they're left handed, right handed, their their bodies

719
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: are different, their brains are different. So you know, for me,

720
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: it's just it just doesn't make any sense to do

721
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: it any other way than to sit down with each

722
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: person as an individual. And yeah, I think I would

723
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: have learned an awful lot a lot of that through

724
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: you know, what your family do and how they've seen

725
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: golf and helped people to play better golf, and they're

726
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: you know, I think it's your daughter always said, we're

727
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: not you know, we're here to teach. We're teach people

728
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: to play golf. We're not teaching golf to people. So

729
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: you know, the human being always kind of comes first.

730
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: For me, you made a big decision you know, you

731
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: and I worked together. I moved to Dubai in two

732
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I think I hired you in the summer. Easily.

733
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: One of the smartest and best decisions that I ever

734
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: made was was hiring you to be on my team.

735
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: And I lived in Dubai for three years. You ran

736
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: our academy there. You can get really comfortable in Dubai.

737
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: It's a great place to live. It's an easy place

738
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: to live. The decision when I remember you called me

739
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: and said there was an opportunity for you to go

740
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: to Sea Island, and you were a bit hesitant. You know,

741
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: young kids, young family, you know, great lifestyle. Obviously it

742
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: worked out, but your changes are tough to make. That

743
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: process of saying okay, I'm going to pick up my

744
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: family and move from Dubai and move to America. Talk

745
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: me through the process at South Georgia. I mean, I

746
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: keep telling you if you get a pickup truck and

747
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: and and and where the pinpoint belt and start hunting,

748
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: you and I aren't going to be friends anymore, you know,

749
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, But but it must have been a big decision.

750
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done it. I mean a lot of

751
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: people have, but it's a daunting decision to move to

752
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: another country and and and hope it's all going to

753
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 1: work out. Yeah.

754
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 3: I mean the guys that having done some research about

755
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Sea Islander, you know, it's a very very classy organization,

756
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: they're not gonna they're not going to entertain hiring someone

757
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: without really wanting them to be a part of the

758
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: kind of the family here. And they've been, you know,

759
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: they've been absolutely unbelievable. I always thought of Dubai as

760
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: really more of a young man or young woman's time,

761
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: you know. I think it's it's a fabulous place to be,

762
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: you know, Claude, it's fast, it's ever changing. People move

763
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: in and out of different different positions.

764
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: So as a father of two kids at that point,

765
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: who were you.

766
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: Know, what's Henry Molly was maybe seven or so at

767
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: or six and Henry was three or four, you know,

768
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: something like that, I'm thinking to myself, like Dubai is

769
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: it's it's a brilliant place, but it's also it can

770
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: be quite transient and things can move pretty fast, you know,

771
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: the goalposts can shift a bit. So I think I

772
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: saw some stability and pursuing something different. I was also

773
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: traveling as you know, I was helping Peter Uline, Louis

774
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: Ustaus and Charles Schwartzel.

775
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 2: At the time.

776
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: And you know, again as a young young ash father

777
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: going from Dubai to la and Dubai to Fort Lauderdale,

778
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: and I remember pitching up at your house and you know,

779
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: at seven in the evening and fall asleep on your

780
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: clutch you if, you know, it was it's a it's

781
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: a hard lifestyle and trying to travel like that. So

782
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: it was becoming clear to me that I either embrace

783
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: the role of trying to teach some of the better

784
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 3: players in the world or or kind of stay put

785
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: somewhere a little bit more. And you know, I felt

786
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: like I still really wanted to do that, and I'm

787
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: still very passionate about about doing that. And you know,

788
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: see Islands giving me the chance to kind of do

789
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of both, you know, be able to

790
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: you know, do some teaching here when I'm at home.

791
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: You know, a pretty quick flight from Jacksonville at Lander

792
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: or Brunswick to Atlanta to get to most of the

793
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: the tour venues.

794
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: That we go to.

795
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: And you know, a beautiful environment here for kids to

796
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: grow up in.

797
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: You know, the islands.

798
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: The island's beautiful, they've got some some independence, they've got

799
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: some good friends that they run around with, and they're

800
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: in and out of swimming pools and so yeah, so far,

801
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: so good.

802
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: Obviously, there's a long list of major champions to come

803
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: out of Northern Ireland, but you're you're now part of

804
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: that fabric of major championships as well. I think every

805
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: country needs role models for young instructors. And I think

806
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: you may not have thought of this, but there'll be

807
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: someone that's teaching on a driving range in you know, Banger,

808
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere where it's not great, where the weather's

809
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: not good, where the ranges aren't good, that will see,

810
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, Justin Parsons, who's from Hollywood Golf Club, has

811
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: worked with a major champion. Have you let your mind

812
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: think about you know what that means from you know,

813
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: a Northern Ireland standpoint, And.

814
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't know a little bit.

815
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: I mean I think I think, like you know, you

816
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: and I have talked about it's it's nice to it's

817
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: nice to consider that you could use some of the

818
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 3: achievements that you've had and players have had to try

819
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: to give a bit back.

820
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: I think you get to.

821
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: Again to our sort of stage where you know, and

822
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: I know you do some of this with you know,

823
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: with your broadcasting and things that got but to get

824
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: a bit back and to try and try and help

825
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: some people along the way, it's it's amazing. I mean,

826
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: the minded text messages and WhatsApps and stuff on Instagram

827
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: and things that that I've got, it's it's really quite

828
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: humbling to to consider that you're in that kind of

829
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: group of people who are who are thought of in

830
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 3: that way. So, you know, as I sort of process

831
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: it and try and figure figure some stuff out, I

832
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: would like to try and arrange how to how to

833
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: give a bit back with with people and and you know,

834
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: like I was very fortunate to get to become a

835
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: part of your family and be trained and taught and

836
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: helped by you know, the first family of golf instruction,

837
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: I mean, and some of those boys and girls back

838
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: there doing that won't maybe have that chance. But maybe

839
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: if I can give a week bit back to them

840
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: and help them on the way, I would like to

841
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: do that.

842
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: Has my dad messaged you multiple times?

843
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: Yes, he was very he was very excited. You know,

844
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: he's been he's been amazing to me, you know, his

845
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: his his approach with treating the human being. He's like

846
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: a chameleon, as you've you've seen many more times than

847
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: I have. His ability to communicate with each and in

848
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 3: every individual in a slightly more nuanced and different way,

849
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: you know, belittles his uh you know, his his rogue

850
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: americanisms sometimes and he you know, I remember seeing him teach,

851
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: you know, people who were kind of religious and good living,

852
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he'd be like a like

853
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: a pastor or a preacher. And then you know, some

854
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: of the boys who liked to gamble and go to

855
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: Vegas for other reasons, and all of a sudden he

856
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: turned into the frock boy again.

857
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: And I was always I was always in, you know,

858
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: in great admiration for you know, the guy who I

859
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: think is probably the best that there's ever been at

860
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: what we do.

861
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: JP you you've left, You've left on Saturday. You had

862
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: a player who's had a five shot lead going into Saturday.

863
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: You had a player that had a five shot lead

864
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: going into Sunday, and you chose to go home. It

865
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: was your daughter's eleventh birthday. And I gotta be honest

866
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: with you, I was surprised you took off, not because

867
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: I think you could have affected the outcome, but because

868
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough to be a part of players

869
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: winning major championships before, and it is a very unique thing.

870
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: But you said something that has really stuck with me.

871
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: You said, listen, my daughter's eleven before she goes away

872
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: to college. How many more birthdays am I going to

873
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: be a part of? And I think it's a testament

874
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: to the type of person you are that you could

875
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: have easily stayed and been standing on the eighteenth Green

876
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: and give Brian a big hug and been a part

877
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: of it and seen it up close, and but you

878
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: chose to get on an airplane Saturday and go home.

879
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: That was a strange one for me. I want I

880
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: as much as I wanted you to be there for

881
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: Molly's birthday, selfishly, from a professional standpoint, I wanted to

882
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: be there to be a part of it.

883
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: Well, you know, truthfully, I thought of like, she's.

884
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: Not quite at an age where she understands the gravity

885
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: of what happened on suddenly from a professional perspective, but

886
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: you know, and at some point she will be at

887
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: an age where she realizes that I came home.

888
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's the balance, right, I mean

889
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: the balance in what we do is trying to balance

890
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, the players, the travel, and then the work life.

891
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: And I think you know, out of all the people

892
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: that are currently doing it what we do, I think

893
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: you do an amazing job at trying to balance all

894
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: of it very well, because you know, I'm I'm terrible

895
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: at it. I'm you know, I'm I'm not good at

896
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm not good at the work life balance. That's for sure.

897
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: Well on the caveat in there, you know.

898
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: And I'm going to say this is we finished off

899
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: that little putting session on Friday and I and I

900
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: gave Brian a high five and I said, and I

901
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: can't held all his hand. And I said, I'm already

902
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: here tomorrow unless you need me. And he said, no,

903
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: go home. You're you're doing my birthday party, aren't you.

904
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: I went yeah.

905
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: He said no, I'd go from here, don't worry about it,

906
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: and had he said, JP, this is this is a

907
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: big week. I'd love you to stay and hang on.

908
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: I'd be the first one on Delta to put that

909
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: to Monday. But he did, you know, and I checked

910
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: with him and if he had needed me, I would

911
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: have been there for him and I'd have probably ended

912
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: up having to buy Molly a.

913
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: Horse or something like that.

914
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: But you know, and that's just the way that the

915
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: way that I wanted it to be. So if he

916
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: didn't need me, I'm sticking the planet.

917
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: Well, it was lonely in the house on Saturday night,

918
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: the curry and the red wine didn't taste is good.

919
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: But honestly, mate, I mean you and I have You're

920
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: the brother I never had, and you know I never

921
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: had a brother, And you know, I've learned an enormous

922
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: amount from you, and you've been such a a stabilizing

923
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: and positive person in my life. And you know, I

924
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't be where I am today without you and

925
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: oh your help. So I'm proud of you.

926
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: And well, I think if we haven't met, I think

927
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: at some point a situation in a Dubai bank probably

928
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: would have taken you into some sort of jail for

929
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: couple of years that I tried to come.

930
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: You know, for those of you who.

931
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: Don't know, the story club is asked to sign, I

932
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: think you were asked to sign fifty two checks.

933
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you buy a car, when you buy a

934
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: car in Dubai, you have to have you have to

935
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: you're making payments, and you have to sign a check

936
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: for each one.

937
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: They probably have they probably have modernized that since two

938
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: thousand and eight or two thousand and nine, So forgive

939
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: us for.

940
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: But they did, and they put it in a safety deposit. One.

941
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: So you got fifty two checks from the bank.

942
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: And I specifically asked you went with me when we

943
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: when I was buying the car, and I said, do

944
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I need more checks because I have to go to

945
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: the bank to get more checks, And they said, no,

946
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: fifty two. So we went to the bank, we got

947
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: the fifty two checks, and we went back in signed

948
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: all fifty two of them. And then they said, and

949
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: now you need one more check for the total value

950
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: of the car. So now we had to go back

951
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: to Dubiden. We had to go back to Emerts mall.

952
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: And Emerts yeah, Emirates NBD, isn't it ever? And we

953
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: uh and then and I thought you were going to

954
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: have a problem with mister Muhammad what was it Muhammad

955
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: Sharif I think his name might have been or something

956
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: like that.

957
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: Well, when he told when he told me, I wasn't

958
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: signing my name my signature. He said, you're signing your

959
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: name improperly, and and you put your hand, you put

960
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: your hand on my shoulder and said, breathe, breathe, breathe.

961
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: I did for you what you did for me on Sunday.

962
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: So we're kind of we're even there, but no, I

963
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: appreciate all the all love and support club. We've we've

964
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: been a good old we've had a good old run

965
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: out and it's it's special for me to do this

966
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: and have a have a talk with you.

967
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: Well, I can't tell you how proud I am of you.

968
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: I love you, and you are one of the best

969
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: in the world at what you do. And this certainly

970
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: isn't going to be the last major you're going to

971
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: be involved with. So thanks for coming back on and

972
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: talking to us and enjoy it. You're going to see

973
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: Brian win.

974
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully, Brian's gonna fly back on Friday. He went he

975
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: went to Syracuse, which was the plan, to to see

976
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: his family. You know, Kelly and the kids have been

977
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: up there for for a week or so, so I

978
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: would imagine.

979
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: That he'll he'll probably need a little bit of.

980
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: Rest, which he may or may not get with his

981
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: three beautiful young children, but he'll.

982
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: He'll be back here Friday. I have no idea. I

983
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: don't even know whether he's going to play Windham.

984
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Yet, he'll sure as hell doesn't need to.

985
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: He does not need to anymore. No, but you know,

986
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: you know what these guys are like.

987
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: Maybe that was on the schedule and there were there

988
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: were things going on, but you know, we're probably looking

989
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: forward to the playoffs.

990
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: The Ryder Cup will be decided when it's decided. But

991
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: I do hope that he you know, here is a

992
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: place there and it'll be nice for him to to

993
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 2: maintain that sort of top six thing.

994
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: He's third on the list with two events left. He

995
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: can't fall. He is going to be on the team

996
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: in Rome. You don't have anything to worry about. Enjoyed

997
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: drinking out of the Cleric jug. I got to do

998
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: it once with Ernie Els and it's pretty special. And

999
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: make sure you pour something in there that's good. I

1000
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: see it. So that was justin Parsons And like I said,

1001
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: he's a hell of an instructor, but he's a better person.

1002
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that there are many instructors with a

1003
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: player trying to win their first major as a player

1004
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: and as a coach having a player win their first major,

1005
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: not a lot of people would fly home, but he

1006
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: flew home for his daughter's birthday. And I think that

1007
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: says a hell of a lot about him as a

1008
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: human being. And he is one of the good ones.

1009
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: And I am so so proud of him, proud to

1010
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: call him a friend, and proud to watch all the

1011
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: work that he does. So the Major's twenty twenty three

1012
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: in the books John Rahm, Brooks Kepka, Wyndham Clark, and

1013
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: now Brian Harmon, And don't think a lot of people

1014
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: would have picked him, but early in the week it

1015
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: just had. I've seen Brian Harmon play well before he

1016
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: took the lead into Aaron Hills in twenty seventeen, when

1017
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: brooks Kepka won. When I was working with Brooks in

1018
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and I had a friend from the US saying, Hey,

1019
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: give me a dark horse pick that nobody's looking at.

1020
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: And this was on Wednesday. I said bet Ham, Brian Harmon,

1021
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: and he was like, what I said, Brian Harmon, It's

1022
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: the perfect kind of golf course for him. And I

1023
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: mentioned in one of the practice rounds to Brooks that

1024
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: I was staying with JP that week and I said,

1025
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: this is a good golf course for Brian Harmon and

1026
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: PK said yeah, I mean this perfect golf course for

1027
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: the type of golf that he plays. And it turned

1028
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: out to be true. So that it's the twenty twenty

1029
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: three major championships in the books. Two weeks left on

1030
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, We got Ryder Cup coming up live,

1031
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: still has a bunch of events and then the Fall Series,

1032
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: so we'll see what this does for Brian Harmon and

1033
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: his career. Son of a Butcher comes to you every Wednesday.

1034
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: We will see you all next week.