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Speaker 1: You're listening Draftings Network.

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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Let's hear that both the next big job there.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian, That's all.

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Speaker 1: It is always nice when a UFC fan goes back

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Speaker 1: and watches Frank Mere versus Todd Duffy, and then they

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Speaker 1: tell us they think of the Anaki Florian podcast and

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Speaker 1: how could you not great to be with you? Monday,

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Speaker 1: July third, twenty twenty three, it is episode four nineteen

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Speaker 1: of the Anak and Florian podcast presented by DraftKings. We

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Speaker 1: are live on the DraftKings Network, on the DraftKings YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: clips of course, on the anticin Floring podcast YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: and on the audio side. This podcast is everywhere you

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Speaker 1: normally ingest your shows. Ken Flow looking dapper collared shirt.

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Speaker 1: It looks like some sort of football kit of some kind.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's your birthday, of course, That's why I'm dressed up.

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Speaker 6: You have birthday, mister Nnick. Dude, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 6: And thank you? By the way, this is my real

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Speaker 5: Kid?

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Speaker 1: Are you feeling good? I'm doing all. Yeah, I'm forty

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Speaker 1: one womb, you know, one plucent to all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And we have noticed that there's a lot of white

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Speaker 1: we have got a ton to get to today. So

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Speaker 1: enough about all that. I am happy to report that

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Speaker 1: I am back at my home. I got at and

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Speaker 1: just got buried to the right of my house. Right

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Speaker 1: here and right now. We have new Anakin Florian podcast

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Speaker 1: signage being put on the wall in the home studio

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Speaker 1: upstairs stands to reason. Later this week our second episode

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Speaker 1: of the week. We'll be live from the new home studio.

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Speaker 1: But a lots to get to. Today we'll start our preview,

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Speaker 1: of course of UFC two ninety coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 1: A lot of things to get to. We have the

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Speaker 1: UFC Hall of Fame induction ceremony coming up on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We have a UFC Fight Night to recap, a PFL

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Speaker 1: controversy to discuss. But I do want to open the

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Speaker 1: show with an announcement for our listener and our viewers. Drumroll, please,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian wheels up to Las Vegas on Thursday. He's

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Speaker 1: meeting me in the Fight Capital and we are going

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Speaker 1: to do a live broadcast of the Antik and Florian

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Speaker 1: podcast this Friday on the UFC Fight Past stage from

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Speaker 1: the Artist formerly known as the UFC Fan Expo now

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Speaker 1: UFC X. Very excited to see you in person and

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Speaker 1: to have an hour with you live in front of

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Speaker 1: all these great UFC fans coming up this Friday, the

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Speaker 1: seventh of July.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait, dude. I'm looking forward to it. First

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Speaker 6: of all, we've never done an Anak and Florian live podcast,

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Speaker 6: so this is huge. I hope people who watch the podcast,

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Speaker 6: it'd be great to meet all the great fans out

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Speaker 6: there in Vegas, and it's exciting stuff. Man.

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Speaker 1: We've been on that stage together a couple times prior,

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Speaker 1: but we were doing Q and A's as broadcast partners.

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Speaker 1: We weren't doing the Anacing podcasts. The first episode we

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Speaker 1: ever did of this show in TJ. DeSantis Studio in

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Speaker 1: We've talked about doing a show, of course at a bar,

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Speaker 1: July seven. We'll be on the UFC Fight Pass stage.

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Speaker 1: Make your selection at any time, but come over to

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Speaker 1: all right, a lot to get to big week weekend

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Speaker 1: for Sean Strickland. We'll get into all of that. Really

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Speaker 1: a great UFC fight night from the Apex. So much

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Speaker 1: So for those Kenny that don't know about everything that's

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Speaker 1: Fio and Naton Schultz. They're very close. They arrived at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, and I'd love to thank you for

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Speaker 6: So we had two teammates, and not only were they

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Speaker 6: At one point, when Natan Schultz had won the PFL championship,

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Speaker 6: you know, And that was something of course that they

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Speaker 6: The PFL decided to say, okay, well, Naton Shalt you

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Speaker 6: Exactly, that was big signing right, came over from the UFC.

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Speaker 6: And you know, people say, well, this was clearly because

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Speaker 6: and it's it's a crap situation all the way around.

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Speaker 6: I don't believe that's really I think that like these

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Speaker 6: We can't have this in a professional setting where people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the PFL and thank you for setting that

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Speaker 1: He does not age. All you PFL commentators, with the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot to talk about. Even though it

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Speaker 1: Mago Menov just gas right like. The reason why I

431
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Speaker 1: stopped short of suggesting this was Sean Strickland's best performance

432
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Speaker 1: is because with respect to a boost Mango Metov, it

433
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Speaker 1: looked like me at the Gettysburg College tough man competition, right,

434
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Speaker 1: it's hard for me to remember a main event athlete

435
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Speaker 1: to non heavyweight Kenny noticeably visibly looking so amateurish in

436
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Speaker 1: terms of the gas tank. And you're right, he realized

437
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Speaker 1: a lot of success in round one, and perhaps his

438
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Speaker 1: approach was just seven minutes hard, I'm gonna finish him,

439
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Speaker 1: or I'm gonna get finished. But those visuals were particularly bad.

440
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Speaker 1: I thought in round two, like just even before he

441
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Speaker 1: ultimately gave up, and perhaps I shouldn't put it so strongly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he quit, but it looked to

443
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Speaker 1: me like not good body language at all, and even

444
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Speaker 1: before he kind of gave up, like it was just

445
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Speaker 1: so wild and undisciplined. I don't know, man Like, I

446
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Speaker 1: think Sean Strickland has earned a title fight, But the

447
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Speaker 1: only thing that gives me pause was just that the

448
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Speaker 1: B side in this the blue corner, only showed up

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Speaker 1: for seven minutes.

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Speaker 6: I couldn't agree more. And I think that this is

451
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Speaker 6: when I'm looking at this fight. I go skill wise,

452
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Speaker 6: maca medoff is a problem. Could he could potentially beat

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Speaker 6: Strickland because he's highly skilled. The problem is he's highly

454
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Speaker 6: inexperienced as far as UFC experience. He's out in Germany

455
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Speaker 6: training no offense Germany, but your mixed martial arts experience, gyms,

456
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Speaker 6: all that stuff isn't at the quality of let's say Brazil,

457
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Speaker 6: United States, right, And I think that not having that

458
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Speaker 6: high level fight experience, not fighting under the bright lights

459
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Speaker 6: of the UFC, it absolutely matters, And it doesn't matter

460
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Speaker 6: what you do at a period of around. It doesn't

461
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Speaker 6: matter what you do in around. You have to be

462
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Speaker 6: able to sustain that at a high level for three

463
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Speaker 6: rounds or five rounds if you want to be of

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Speaker 6: an elite UFC caliber. And he showed that he didn't

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Speaker 6: have that ability to pace himself or understand that he

466
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Speaker 6: has Sean Strickland in front of him. This isn't just

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Speaker 6: some other dude out of Europe. This is a guy

468
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Speaker 6: who knows how to stick around and he's going to

469
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Speaker 6: come back and bite you in the ass if you

470
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Speaker 6: allow him to. So he just didn't manage his energy,

471
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Speaker 6: his work grate got a little too excited there and.

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Speaker 1: It failed him.

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Speaker 6: So hopefully he's able to learn from this because he

474
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Speaker 6: is a very highly skilled fighter, just needs to know

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Speaker 6: how to put together and get the conditioning and composure

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Speaker 6: to be able to fight and beat guys like Sean

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Speaker 6: Strickland long term.

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Speaker 1: So I know you were expectant that I was going

479
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Speaker 1: to ask you today if Sean Strickland, on the strength

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Speaker 1: of this win and everything else, has done enough to

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Speaker 1: earn a championship opportunity. I believe that I can convince

482
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Speaker 1: you right now that Sean Strickland should get a title fight,

483
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Speaker 1: even if you expected to give a different answer when

484
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Speaker 1: you showed up today to do the Anakin Florin podcast. Now,

485
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Speaker 1: with respect to the future Hall of Famer Robert Whittaker,

486
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Speaker 1: who is fighting Drake is duplus c in about five days,

487
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Speaker 1: the thought that that fight would either be quick or

488
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Speaker 1: not violent enough for one of those two gentlemen, either

489
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Speaker 1: Whittaker or duplus c to fight Israelata Sonia in eight

490
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Speaker 1: or nine weeks, second week in September in Sydney, Australia

491
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Speaker 1: sounds very ambitious to me. But let us historic look

492
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Speaker 1: back at Sean Strickland, right he had that long winning

493
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Speaker 1: streak that included a win over Brendan Allen, vaults to

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Speaker 1: number four in the world, and you know what, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll fight the unranked Alex Padata UFC two seventy six,

496
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Speaker 1: when out of Signia fights Jared Knnoneer. Sure, because Sean

497
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Speaker 1: Strickland will fight anybody, you know. So he gets put

498
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Speaker 1: to sleep by Alex Padata and then he comes back

499
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Speaker 1: and loses a split decision to Jared Knnoneer in a

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Speaker 1: close fight, and now, all of a sudden, Sean Strickland

501
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Speaker 1: six fight winning streak is a two fight losing streak.

502
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Speaker 1: Right then he steps up during fight week into a

503
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Speaker 1: main event against Nos Sordini Mob Bob in January, wins

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Speaker 1: that and now wins another main event against a boost

505
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Speaker 1: Mago Metal. To me, that makes Sean Strickland undeniable. Not

506
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Speaker 1: only has he stepped up for the promotion, but he

507
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Speaker 1: can sell a fight meritocracy. I certainly think he checks

508
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Speaker 1: a lot of boxes. The only knock against and it's

509
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Speaker 1: been echoed by Luke Thomas and other people, is that

510
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Speaker 1: if Sean Strickland thought he is for a lot of

511
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Speaker 1: sign a hundred times, you know. Maybe Strickland wins a few,

512
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Speaker 1: but for the most part, people feel like they know

513
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Speaker 1: how that matchup is going to go, and perhaps I

514
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Speaker 1: get more excited about other matchups in terms of competition,

515
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Speaker 1: or maybe the betting line would be a little bit tighter,

516
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Speaker 1: But for me, ken flow with respect to Drake is

517
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Speaker 1: dupless and everybody else. I don't know how you deny

518
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Speaker 1: Sean Strickland when you couple the body of work with

519
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Speaker 1: him stepping up and a stoppage win the main event

520
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Speaker 1: this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts, Yeah, I agree, listen. I think that the

522
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Speaker 6: UFC and the middleweight division in general are in a

523
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Speaker 6: bit of a bind in that they need competition for

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Speaker 6: Israel out of Sonya, who is one of the best

525
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Speaker 6: fighters to ever compete inside the UFC's octagon. That's the issue,

526
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Speaker 6: And I think that from a skill perspective, if I'm

527
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Speaker 6: being honest, I don't think Strickland has a whole lot

528
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Speaker 6: to offer. Someone like Adasanya out of Sonya is an

529
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Speaker 6: absolute menace. He is so skilled and so good and

530
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Speaker 6: so long for that division that it's going to be

531
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Speaker 6: difficult for anybody to go out there and give him

532
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Speaker 6: a good run. I think Cannon e Or from a

533
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Speaker 6: skills perspective, is a better matchup now he has more

534
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Speaker 6: work to do, and so basically for me, it's between

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Speaker 6: Dricus Duplass and Sean Strickland. Now, if Dricis goes out

536
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Speaker 6: there and beats Whittaker. I think that would be extremely impressive.

537
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 6: No one just goes out there and beats Robert Whittaker. However,

538
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 6: I think Strickland, name wise, style wise, I think it's

539
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 6: a better fight for the UFC to put on between

540
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Speaker 6: Sean Strickland and Israel Asnia. So I think that for Dricks,

541
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Speaker 6: I think he's a tough dude, he's a grinder. He's

542
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Speaker 6: gonna get Israel's face. I like that that that would

543
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Speaker 6: be be the case. But from a skills perspective, I

544
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Speaker 6: don't think he has much for Israel Asnya there either.

545
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Speaker 6: So I think it would be a much better, much

546
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 6: more entertaining fight for Sean Strickland. And he really he's

547
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Speaker 6: the only guy left at this stage of the game

548
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Speaker 6: because of Israel Desanya's you know, level of competition and

549
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 6: what he's done in that division. I think that's that's

550
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 6: really the only play at this stage of the game.

551
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Speaker 6: Driccas would have to go out there and absolutely dominate

552
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Speaker 6: Robert Whitaker bell to bell and go out there and

553
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Speaker 6: get a finish for him to change my mind, Yeah,

554
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 6: you know, not that I'm making fight.

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Speaker 1: To the UFC right No, I like how you set

556
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Speaker 1: that up. I don't know if we've seen Sean Strickland

557
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: fight Marvin Vitty, my memory escapes me a little bit.

558
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Speaker 1: I think that matchup piques my interest, but right now, obviously,

559
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: but Toy is coming off a loss, so that fight

560
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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense right now. I do think a main

561
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Speaker 1: event or a three round co main event on pay

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Speaker 1: per view between Jared Cannoneer and Brendan Allen, as called

563
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Speaker 1: for by Brendan Allen, makes a shit ton of sense

564
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Speaker 1: right now. If Cannon is going to earn a second

565
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Speaker 1: championship opportunity, I think he's got to beat a guy

566
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Speaker 1: like Brendan Allen. And I think, with respect to Dracs

567
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Speaker 1: Dupless and Sean Strickland, Brendon Allen is intriguing because of

568
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: the danger factor in myriad areas of mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 1: I do believe if Brendan Allen and Israel lot of

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Speaker 1: SNI engage in a ground fight, caution flammable for the

571
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Speaker 1: champion is he But I don't think that the promotion

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Speaker 1: sees Brendan Allen as a number one contender type, at

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Speaker 1: least right now. And lastly, I'll say plenty more on

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Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker and Dracus Duplessi later in the week. But

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Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker only losses in the last nine and a

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Speaker 1: half years to Israelat of Sonia. Right, Stephen Wanner Boy

577
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: Thompson got him in twenty fourteen, and he has not

578
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Speaker 1: lost to anyone. But is he since? All right, star

579
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Speaker 1: of the show's been in the waiting room for three minutes.

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Speaker 1: He's probably ready to kill me. Let's get to the

581
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Speaker 1: Ray Long Minute.

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Speaker 2: He's now time for the Ray Long Minutes.

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Speaker 6: A holes.

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Speaker 2: The Ray Long Minute. Sorry Ray the John Nick and

585
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 7: Hey they are happy fourth of July?

587
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Were doing well? How are you doing?

588
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

589
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: I just need a little more head room, Mike, God,

590
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: you're all headed there?

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Speaker 5: Oh ship, I don't know.

592
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I know you Tan well, she's what

593
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Speaker 1: am I doing? I mean? Can we get this guy

594
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: framed up before he comes on next week? Is that

595
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: too much to ask?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, this is sir, What are we doing? You

598
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: got rayed four minutes ago? What have you guys been doing?

599
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 6: Back there?

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00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: There we go?

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Speaker 5: I've been you know what I've been doing.

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Speaker 7: I've been listening to you guys, beautiful explanation of what's

603
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Speaker 7: going on in the middleweight division.

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Speaker 5: That's what I've enjoying myself and enjoying myself.

605
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Speaker 1: Did you fall asleep in the sun? No, definitely, gosh

606
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: look great, but yeah you look.

607
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Speaker 5: Ship this that hasn't even been any sun.

608
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Speaker 1: So there are a lot of people as we bring

609
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Speaker 1: the great Ray Longo into our conversation on Twitter, he

610
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Speaker 1: is at Ray long Ago m m a. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of midway who have had a crack. It

612
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: is for a lot of Sonia. Sean Strickland has not

613
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Speaker 1: had that opportunity. And when you look at the varying

614
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: spots in which he stepped up for the UFC, either

615
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: willingly putting his number four ranking online against Alex Paneta

616
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Speaker 1: or the short notice week of main event against Nas Sordini,

617
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Speaker 1: Mava like, if you're looking for someone to fight Izzy

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Speaker 1: on September eighth, you know, maybe is he's minus seven hundred,

619
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Speaker 1: But Strickland checks a lot of boxes and he's certainly

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Speaker 1: deserving to me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I think he fits the definition of a

622
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 7: company man, like you said, and you know, even before

623
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Speaker 7: we get started, man, that's off to Strickland because it's

624
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 7: tough enough to wake up on the morning of a

625
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Speaker 7: fight just feel great and want to you know, everything's

626
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 7: going good, but ten seconds in you get your ipope. Man,

627
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 7: that shit just bothers the shit out of me. Man,

628
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 7: it's right, Kenny. I mean, it's tough enough. I don't

629
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 7: care what the little thing is. You might have a

630
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 7: little nagging injury in your middle finger or you pinky

631
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Speaker 7: or something that just could distract you.

632
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Speaker 5: But to get your eyes pulled, ma and I do.

633
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 5: I think they got to do something about it.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't a casual one. Wasn't a casual one either.

635
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 7: I guy had this guy's stands out like this. I mean,

636
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 7: I mean, Ken, you're doing self defense. That's my first

637
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 7: thing I'm going to You're getting my fingers in your eyes.

638
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 7: There's just no question it wouldn't it be stupid to

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Speaker 7: do anything else?

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00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Bruce Lee was big on that, And what do

641
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 6: you do? It doesn't matter how tough you are. If

642
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 6: you can't see, it's kind of hard to fight.

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00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 7: Problem, So my hack goes off to my I think

645
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 7: he deserves the shot. We know he's tough enough, so

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Speaker 7: he kind of got a predictable game but he's really

647
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 7: good at it, and uh, you never know. I mean

648
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 7: they're definitely being entertaining, you fight, should talking and all

649
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 7: the stuff going on, So I say make it.

650
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 5: I think he earned it.

651
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

652
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 5: I mean another thing is too. I was thinking about it.

653
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Who the guy what was his name this past weekend? Yeah?

654
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, who's his manager? Do we know?

655
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't know?

656
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 7: We should hire that guy one fight in the UFC.

657
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 7: I want to know who the guy's manager is, right,

658
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 7: this guy, this guy deserves an award, no, is it?

659
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I mean I think that's their right. That's

660
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: quite the ascent. I mean, we can't even get in

661
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: the US never mind. You know, did you see your

662
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: guy stepping up by the way to try to get

663
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: that slot against Jack Ellen Madeleine?

664
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: Who stood up for that?

665
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Who his name? And of course he did, But no,

666
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: he didn't get the right. They gave it to an guy,

667
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: some seven kid, former LFA I think out of New Jersey,

668
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: maybe high school wrestler.

669
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 7: But oh, he looked. He's throwed his name into every

670
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 7: one of those. They think the one he wanted was

671
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 7: Brito too, and they took.

672
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 5: The other guy. So I think that was that was

673
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 5: a mistake, but uh.

674
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: So, uh so Sean Strickland, we'll see. All I can

675
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: tell you based upon my knowledge of the Aussies at

676
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: a hand base, they would be absolutely thrilled to have

677
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Sewn Strickland descend upon Sydney with everything that he brings

678
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: to the table, Like you got there, brokar over there,

679
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, get him a rental motorcycle and Sean Stricklan

680
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: will take over. And also too, I we're gonna have

681
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: picks later in the week, but look, Kenfler's not going

682
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: to pick Dracus du plus c at plus three twenty

683
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: to beat Robert Whittaker. Okay, Like Dracus is a huge

684
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: underdog and I can't wait to sit down with him.

685
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: I think he big game player. We'll see what he

686
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: does with the challenge. But yes, if this dude goes

687
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: out and does to Robert Whittaker what essentially no one's

688
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: been able to do, then yeah, the conversation can be reopened.

689
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know. I think it's a lot

690
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: to ask twofold for Drakes ray right to beat Robert Whittaker,

691
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: but to beat him quickly enough or non violently enough

692
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: where you're able to turn around in eight or nine

693
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: weeks and train and prepare for Aasanya. It's just a lie.

694
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 5: Listen.

695
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 7: I don't think it could happen, but you know, yeah,

696
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 7: I've been rolling.

697
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 5: Before and this would really surprise me.

698
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I apreaking superlatives.

699
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 6: Right.

700
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: If Drake's the plus and a span of nine weeks

701
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: beats Robert Wick and a lot of Sonia, the greatest

702
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: nine week stretch in the history of.

703
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 7: Well, I tell you you should get a tattoo of

704
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 7: something South Africa on you because I think you're pretty

705
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 7: safe that.

706
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 5: You have to do it.

707
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, we'll do it. We'll do the tattoo today.

708
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 6: We'll do it.

709
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: So if Drake is dupleasity between now in September nine

710
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: beats Robert Whittaker and then Israe a lot of sonia

711
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: to come on the study of the UFC Middleweight Champion.

712
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: Can't careful at the South Africa flag tattooed somewhere on

713
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: my body, the whole back, all the back piece, like

714
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: the whole shoulder or shoulder dude TVD on location. But yeah,

715
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's a huge ask, right

716
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: to beat with it and then to turn around and

717
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: beat Izzy nine weeks later.

718
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 5: More than the you that's more than the ask, all right.

719
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: So a few things I would like to get into.

720
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: Ray And I don't know how much you watched of

721
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: this UFC fight night, but uh, Grant Dawson has he

722
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: definitely taken his game to the next level since I

723
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: loved this Grant Dawson package. Twelve minutes of control time

724
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: and this is demir Is magoulav that he was able

725
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 1: to do this too. So your thoughts on on Grant

726
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: Dawson shining in the co main event Raymond, Yeah.

727
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 7: Look looked absolutely fantastic. I mean, if there's anything I'm thinking,

728
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 7: I mean, I'd like to see one more high level fight.

729
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 7: I mean, this is a guy that wanted to retire,

730
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 7: or I think he did retire. He's probably been thinking

731
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 7: about retirement, so I don't know if that plays into it,

732
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 7: but one hundred percent a very technical, good striker, and

733
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 7: Grant Dawson made it look easy, and I think that's

734
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 7: one hundred percent the first step and get to where

735
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 7: he wants to go. So he looked great. I love

736
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 7: the control time he did it. You know, he did

737
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 7: what he had to do, and I think he did

738
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 7: it looking really, really well so against a great, great talent,

739
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 7: So I'm excited to see where he's going for sure.

740
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny, what are your thoughts at Grant Dawson, not

741
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: just set Odd, Grant Dawson, not just Saturday Night, But uh,

742
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: I would think he'd be problematic for a lot of

743
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: these guys in that top ten and fifty five.

744
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 6: You're asking the dummy who picked his macgooloff over here. Yeah,

745
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 6: man Is mcgouloff didn't do a tip thing in that fight.

746
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 6: I mean, like he was absolutely dominating when he was retired.

747
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 6: He had retired exactly retire, he retired.

748
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 7: Before the fight, Teddy. That's the problem even if you

749
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 7: picked him, and I think that's not a bad thing.

750
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 7: It's just that you don't know the mindset of these guys,

751
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 7: and if you think about it, you just somebody knew

752
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 7: what was going on, you know what I mean, they knew.

753
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 5: If he was in the camp the right way. He wasn't.

754
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 7: But it didn't look good. And you know, but I

755
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 7: don't want to take away from Grant Dawson either, because

756
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 7: the guy we've seen is mcgoulof go do really well.

757
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 7: So like again, hats off to them, I'm sorry for

758
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 7: interrupt him out. Thank you, thank.

759
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 6: You for helping me feel a little better about my

760
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 6: stupid pick. But you know, Grant, Grant Dawson, you know,

761
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 6: I think mindset or not though, Grant Dawson just had

762
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 6: a style that was just something to contend with. Demir

763
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 6: never had an answer for the takedowns, He didn't have

764
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 6: an answer for the back game. He just didn't know

765
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 6: what to do on the ground. Dawson just absolutely overwhelmed him.

766
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 6: I thought that Dawson looked like a completely different fighter

767
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 6: in that he's way more efficient with this wrestling. He

768
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 6: knows how to utilize his striking, get in, get out.

769
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 6: When he's in, he's all the way in. He's put

770
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 6: you on your back, He's controlling you immediately, all the

771
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 6: little things. You know, we talked about the fundamentals of iliotopuria,

772
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 6: Well we got to talk about the fundamentals of his

773
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 6: grappling game because he was doing all the little things

774
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 6: right and how you finish a takedown, how you control,

775
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 6: and how you advance your position and never let that

776
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 6: dude really out of there. I thought it was a

777
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 6: extremely solid performance from Grant Dawson, who was looking better

778
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 6: all the time. Those are the skills that he needed.

779
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 6: When I look at Grant Dawson from a couple of

780
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 6: years ago to where he is now, he's filling in

781
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 6: those gaps. Still needs some work with his striking, right,

782
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 6: If he can't did that takedown, he needs to get

783
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 6: that up to a higher level. But as far as

784
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 6: how he's maximizing his strength as a fighter, I thought

785
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 6: that was really well executed the other night.

786
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, and fight IQ wise very very smart. So and

787
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 7: it looks like he's in a great spot the way

788
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 7: he spoke, and he's you know, sometimes you just need

789
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 7: the right fit, you know, and you get the right attention. Look,

790
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 7: a little attention goes a long way to a fighter,

791
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 7: right Kenny. If you're doing it by yourself and then

792
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 7: you're every so often somebody looks at you. But if

793
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 7: somebody's on your rest every day and you're communicating, that's

794
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 7: a huge, huge thing, huge.

795
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 5: You know.

796
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 7: People people just want to feel like they there's people

797
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 7: behind their back, you know what I mean, that people

798
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 7: have their back and they're they're with them the whole

799
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 7: step of the journey.

800
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: So it looks like he's got that now, and that's

801
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 5: why I'm excited for yeah, And.

802
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 6: No matter who we are, how much we love martial arts,

803
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 6: we all have blind spots. We can't see at all,

804
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 6: and we need other people to come in and tell us, Hey,

805
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 6: you need to be doing this, you need be doing that.

806
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 6: You're making a mistake here, make us. There's so much

807
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 6: too mixed martial arts. If you don't have good people

808
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 6: around you who really want to see you get better,

809
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: and if you're not honest about yourself and how you

810
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 6: want to get better, you're in big trouble.

811
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 5: This sport's way too difficult, way too difficult.

812
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: I just love the way Grant Dawson handled everything, just

813
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: watching from afar, the media before the fight, the post

814
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: fight interview afterwards. I'm a sucker for when they put

815
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: over the coaches like that. And you know when he said, like,

816
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a good fighter, right, I'm just a good soldier.

817
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: He had me eating right out of his hands, all right.

818
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: So when I look at the lightweight top fifteen, Raymond,

819
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: you got your guy there, Matt de seam Roller for

820
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: bowl at number fourteen. By the way, it looks like

821
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: Forrabola is going to be on our live show that

822
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: we do we're doing a live show this Friday from UFCX,

823
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: but you're not going to be in Vegas. Looks like

824
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: you might be there the week later.

825
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 5: I am there the weekend.

826
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: That's right, we're not and that's a trip that maybe

827
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: you weren't expecting to make. Is that fair to say

828
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: which one the one to ask live fifteenth? Or did

829
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: you always have somebody on that show?

830
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 5: No?

831
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 7: I always said somebody else the show ziems cop. He's

832
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 7: looking great, very excited for him. But we could talk

833
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 7: about that later. But okay, no, no, we've always been there.

834
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So Mattau's Gamrox seven, armand Surgian eight Halfeel Dosanjos

835
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: is still there, Jalen Turner ten, Dan Hooker eleven. Those

836
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: two guys are fighting this weekend. Hanato mo Kano thirteen

837
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: for Vola fourteen, Michael Chandler five. We'll see, right. It

838
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: is hard to get just ask armand Surgian. It is

839
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: hard to get a fighter ranked above you at one

840
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five pounds to sign on the dotted line.

841
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Got big names everywhere in there, but Grant Dawson's getting

842
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: one of those names. There's no doubt about.

843
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, where's where's Grant Dawson right number fifteen, so he's

844
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 7: right behind for Vola Yep, yep. Yeah, that's a good

845
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 7: fighting too.

846
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: But then one of the names that Grant Dawson mentioned

847
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: was Benil dar Yus. I think that makes a ton

848
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: of sense, even though one's off a win and one's

849
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: off a loss. All Right, a few other things I'd

850
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: like to get into on UFC Fight Net, and then

851
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: I would like to ask you if I could about

852
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: Henry Shudo's unceremonious withdrawal from the Cheetoh Verify in Boston.

853
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: Let's just get into that right now, because you know,

854
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: al Jo called him a dirty little weasel, and I'm

855
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: not even sure that that's overly strong, just based upon

856
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: some of the things that Henry has done to inject

857
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: himself into these conversations. Right, goes through a five round

858
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: championship fight, and I have to be careful, right based

859
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: upon my job, But he goes through that twenty five

860
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: minute fight with al Joe in May, and then al

861
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: Joe essentially gets bullied into turning around quickly to defend

862
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: his title. For lack of a better verb, right, strong

863
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: armed If you like that, right, and then Shudo starts saying, Hey,

864
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: if al Jo can't make the walk, I'll fight O'Malley

865
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: for an interim or whatever.

866
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 5: You know.

867
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: Then he accepts this Cheeto fight, and it was hard

868
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: for me to wrap my head around him actually fighting

869
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: Cheeto on August nineteenth, and before we can even send

870
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: the fight card to the masses, he pulls out of

871
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: the fight. So, if I'm the undisputed champion al Jamaine Sterling,

872
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm grabbing a microphone and I'm hot. And that's exactly

873
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: what the result was from your guy. So what are

874
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Sahudo accepting the fight with Cheeto Vera

875
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: and pulling out essentially ninety hours later.

876
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just more nonsense. M It made nonsense. I

877
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 5: don't know like it.

878
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 7: You know, if you think of Aljo's position, you know,

879
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 7: Daney got up there and said, you know, I got

880
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 7: a cool Guess who called?

881
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 5: Guess who called Henry? Henry called.

882
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 7: He said, you know, if that pussy doesn't want to fight,

883
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 7: I'll take this. This is a whole fucking bullshit I

884
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 7: could do without. I'll be honest with you, John, It's

885
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 7: just it's stupid. Uh, it's almost like second grade name calling,

886
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 7: childish shit. Henry fuck, fuck Henry, you know what I mean. Like,

887
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 7: that's why Aljo's man, because he has to sit there

888
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 7: and listen to this. Al Jo can't get out of

889
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 7: his own way. No, Henry can't get out of his

890
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 7: own way. Let's grab the mic, ands and and and

891
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 7: put him on blast, you know, so what anybody could say,

892
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 7: you know, I'll fight him, I'll do this, I'll do that.

893
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 7: You got to actually do it though, that's the problem.

894
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 7: So I feel I feel for al Jo and I

895
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 7: back them one on everything he's saying, because it's if

896
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 7: that never happened with you know, with the Dana saying

897
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 7: Algiel kint get out of his own way and Henry

898
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 7: cold and you know, I don't know, did uh Hunter

899
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 7: Campbell run over to Dani's house this time and say

900
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 7: you're not going to believe this. Henry Shudo's out of

901
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 7: the fight. I don't know, man, It's just they got

902
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 7: to stop being with this ship, you know, and Henry Henry, Look,

903
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 7: if that never happened, Aljoe's never saying that that.

904
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 5: That's my belief.

905
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 7: And you know, in injuries and injury and you gotta

906
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 7: respect that, but I don't think he was ever fight

907
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 7: if you want to know the truth.

908
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny, I didn't intend to have some long form

909
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: conversation on it, but I don't know, man. The champion

910
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: by and large has done everything the right way, and

911
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just some of the stuff coming out

912
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: of that Tudo camp I think leaves a little bit

913
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: to be desired. And let me be crystal clear that

914
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with my relationship with Ray Longo.

915
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: I looked at the entire bantamweight division, right, and Corey

916
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: Sandhagen and other guys that go about everything the right way,

917
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, and even some may be criticizing may Rob

918
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: who all of a sudden decides to have what was

919
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: a very invasive surgery. I don't know, man, I don't know.

920
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: I just it didn't sit well with me how it

921
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: all went down. Kenny, I don't know if you have

922
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: any thoughts on on Tohudo's withdrawal or any of that.

923
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, So Shudo is is he's out of the fight

924
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 6: for what reason? He's claiming an Joel Okay shoulder edge. Okay,

925
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 6: that's what I thought, all right. Yeah, it's tough, man,

926
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 6: because here we live in this world where if you

927
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 6: find any weakness as a fighter, you know, some of

928
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 6: those guys are are going to try to poke, especially

929
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 6: if it's something that the UFC organization has said or

930
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 6: you know, it's like, I don't know. I mean, it

931
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 6: seems to me that the UFC isn't so keen on

932
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 6: having Al Joe as their champion. And I think Henry

933
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 6: sudo is trying to poke at that and make it

934
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 6: worse and trying to poke at that wound more and more,

935
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 6: and you know, and here he is now not able

936
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 6: to fight. It's it's it's a tough situation, man. I

937
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 6: hate to see that kind of that level of trash talk.

938
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 6: The UFC is a much different place than it was

939
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 6: when I was fighting, I think, And you know, to

940
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 6: see Sahudo now, I don't know, I don't know, maybe

941
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 6: it's karma, whatever it is. But it's unfortunate that he

942
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 6: isn't going to go out there and fight after he

943
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 6: said he was going to fight. But I think Shuda

944
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 6: is a fantastic fighter, man. I think having him as

945
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 6: a part of the division though, is much better than

946
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 6: having him not be a part of it. I agree,

947
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 6: And that card is so damn stacked. Luckily that you know,

948
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be a huge dent

949
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 6: as far as you know, viewership or anything like that.

950
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 6: I love the card regardless. So Boston has a tremendous card.

951
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 6: I think people are still gonna go nuts over it.

952
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 6: It's still going to do great numbers, I think, uh

953
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 6: numbers wise, pay per view wise. So I don't know, man,

954
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 6: I think the proof is the pudding. Aljo's going to

955
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 6: be there, you know, God bless I hope, you know,

956
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 6: God willing he stays healthy and all that stuff and

957
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 6: that fight happens. But yeah, interesting, interesting how it all

958
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 6: turned out.

959
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, from me as a non fighter, ray to suggest

960
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: that Henry Suhudo accepted the fight, know and he probably

961
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be able to make the walk, but

962
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: as an MMA fan just watching from Afar and how

963
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: he was handling his recreational time after the Aljo fight,

964
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: it just seemed ambitious, idealistic, and unrealistic that he was

965
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: going to fight someone as dangerous as Cheeto Vera here

966
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: on as short a timeline as Aljo was going to

967
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: have for O'Malley, it made no sense. I was not

968
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: at all surprised to see him pull out.

969
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, and again no, not really disrespect to Henry. I

970
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 7: do like Heny, but I think you gotta I don't like.

971
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 7: I don't like the bullshit talking. I don't And this

972
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 7: is the reason why, because then when a backvoy, it

973
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 7: looked as you look like a complete asshole.

974
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean.

975
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: But and I don't think he was winning that fight

976
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 7: with Cheto. That was not never going to be an

977
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 7: easy fight. Even if he takes him down, Cheeto could

978
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 7: open him up with els to the head. You know,

979
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 7: he's he's pretty good off his back with that stuff.

980
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 7: That was not an easy fight. He wasn't gonna hurt

981
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 7: Cheetos standing up by no means.

982
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 5: I don't believe. It's just.

983
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 7: You know, when I see my guy subjected to unnecessary bullshit,

984
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 7: I just get a little wacky, you know what I mean. So, yeah,

985
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 7: and I not two wrongs make it right. But I

986
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 7: understand al Joe's frustration and having to sit there, and

987
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 7: I think he takes all the criticism as well as

988
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 7: anybody can, and he's done it for the last couple

989
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 7: of years, and I think it actually gives him strength.

990
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 7: So I think Henry pulling out. Actually, he's going to

991
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 7: give him more strength in this fight. I think it

992
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 7: gives him another purpose.

993
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: And just like that, Raymond has blacked out. I did

994
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: have one more question for him, but it's probably a

995
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: good time to stop it down with uh with Raymond

996
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,360
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Speaker 1: so a few other things that I quickly want to

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Speaker 1: highlight here from UFC fight. And I, by the way,

1036
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: my man Chepe machine gun modeskaal is coming up here

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00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: in about five minutes. It looks like we have long ago,

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00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't mind actually bringing long go back. You

1039
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: want to say goodbye, well no, let me ask you this.

1040
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: And we have two more minutes. So Kenny got to

1041
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: the UFC when he had just a handful of fights. Yes,

1042
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: this weekend we had a guy Nurseleton Ruzaboyev beat Bruno

1043
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Fijeda in his UFC debut to kick off the main card.

1044
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: He's won nine consecutive fights. He's six' five at. Middleweight,

1045
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: Right he's thirty five eight and two with two no. Contests,

1046
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: right so he's got forty seven pro, fights so it

1047
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: took him forty five plus fights to get to THE.

1048
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: Ufc AND i want to ask you, guys in the

1049
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: context Of Shane burgos and other fighters, saying why is

1050
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: it THE ufc and nothing for every THE ufc or

1051
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: nothing for all these? Fighters? Right and here we have

1052
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: a Guy, nurseletan, right if you've seen the Movie, frozen

1053
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: by the, Way, weaselton this, guy he's got to Go

1054
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 1: nurseleton forget the last. Name but all this kid wanted

1055
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: to Do kenny was get to THE. Ufc and so

1056
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: he was asking his post fight interview about making THIS ufc.

1057
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: Debut this kid has essentially fought multiple times every, week

1058
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: every month for years and years and years for ten

1059
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: years just to get to THE, ufc and then he

1060
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: has a debut like, this gets a performance. BONUS i

1061
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: bring it up in the broader context right of other

1062
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: promotions trying to sort of close the gap on THE.

1063
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: Ufc but pretty damn special to have a kid like

1064
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: This ray who has a one track mind to get

1065
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: to THE. Ufc he's essentially fighting every week for a

1066
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: decade to get, there and then has a moment like

1067
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: he Had saturday. Night i'm not sure if you saw,

1068
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: it but it was pretty. Special.

1069
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 7: YEAH i saw The great caught the kick and knocked him.

1070
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 7: Out that was the, fight, Right, YEAH i mean from

1071
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 7: WHAT i, saw it look. Great as far as THE ufc, look,

1072
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 7: man people could say whatever they. Want there's a reason

1073
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 7: why people want to be. THERE i, mean you're going

1074
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 7: to get the, definitely you're going to get the most

1075
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 7: eyeballs on. You they do a fantastic job with the

1076
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 7: with the behind the scenes, STUFF i, mean the transportation

1077
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 7: from the. Airports, yeah there's really honestly nothing to complain.

1078
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 7: About we sit here because you, know we want to

1079
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 7: make jokes and have conversations about. Stuff but they are

1080
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 7: by far the best organization on the, planet and that's

1081
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 7: why people want to be with, them you. Know conversely with,

1082
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 7: THAT i think sometimes the promotion can have certain liberties

1083
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 7: because they kind of know, that so it makes it

1084
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: easy for.

1085
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 5: Them but you can't disagree with or be dissatisfied with

1086
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 5: anything that they.

1087
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 7: Do i'm telling, you from picking you up at the

1088
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 7: airport to taking you back to the airport to you

1089
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 7: guys are so professional on the microphone.

1090
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 5: Everything the other organizations are, good BUT i.

1091
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 7: Don't Feel i've never felt WHAT i felt with THE,

1092
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 7: usc and it could be Because i'm there thirty years

1093
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 7: at this, point you know WHAT i.

1094
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: Mean so it just feels like home to. Me BUT

1095
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 5: i understand why people want to be.

1096
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 7: There and trust, ME i got fighters coming, up and

1097
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 7: if you even offer them something.

1098
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 5: Else NOW i with THE, UFC i, mean, yeah it's

1099
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 5: just they do a great job with the. Marketing they

1100
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 5: just do a really good.

1101
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 7: Job the other organizations are fantastic, also but not that

1102
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 7: they just don't have the dollars that these guys have

1103
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 7: to do those the little things the right.

1104
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 5: WAY i believe.

1105
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, NO i think a lot to be said of.

1106
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: That there's a lot of power in those three. Letters

1107
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: and even the fighters making twelve and twelve to a

1108
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: man to a woman come into The fighter meeting and

1109
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: they're just wowed by the staff and the entire. Operation And,

1110
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: KENNY i would, say as a guy who has long

1111
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: worked for the. Underdog right WHEN i was doing radio In,

1112
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: BOSTON i was On Sporting News Radio boston and not

1113
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: wei nobody was listening to my. SHOW i was doing

1114
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: The mouthpiece boxing. Show nobody was Listening LIKE i have

1115
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time working for number three or number,

1116
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: two working for the underdog as opposed to the, favorite

1117
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: and you, know it's kind of nice for me at

1118
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: this stage of my career to work for the.

1119
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 6: Favorite you, know, yeah. Absolutely, listen THE ufc has been

1120
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 6: around for so, long and why is that? Important first of, all,

1121
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 6: experience they're they're going to work out all of those, problems, issues,

1122
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 6: mistakes mishaps that they've had over the. Years they're getting

1123
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 6: if you're doing a business, properly you're going to make that,

1124
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 6: better more, seamless all that, stuff and THE ufc has

1125
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 6: been doing. That the other thing, is you, know being

1126
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 6: first to. Market you, know they were the first guys doing,

1127
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 6: this so of course they are going to be the.

1128
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 6: Biggest they've been on the biggest, networks they've been promoting

1129
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 6: it the most and all of those all that, money

1130
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 6: all of that promotion has paid off now to the

1131
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 6: point where they are the biggest powerhouse out. There you,

1132
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 6: KNOW i think that there's going to be other options for.

1133
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 6: PEOPLE i think there's the perception of you, know being

1134
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 6: in the best promotion in the, world and, uh you,

1135
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 6: know for a lot of fighters coming up watching THE.

1136
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 6: Ufc that's where they want to, be you, know of,

1137
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 6: course and that's where you, know the majority of the

1138
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 6: best fighters in the world. Are that's just a, fact you.

1139
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 6: Know the good thing is though that there are, options you,

1140
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 6: know for people who maybe at a different point in their,

1141
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 6: career coming up in the middle of their, career at

1142
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 6: the end of their, career there are other options for.

1143
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 6: Organizations SO i think it's a Good it's a good

1144
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 6: time to be a professional mixed marti, artist it is

1145
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,479
Speaker 6: no question about.

1146
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 5: It, Yeah and and a little.

1147
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 7: Disclaim I've i've been to THE. Pfl those guys treat

1148
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 7: me like. GOLD i got some really good friends over.

1149
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 7: There everything That i've had guys fight, there But i've never,

1150
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 7: cornered So i'm not, speaking you know. Directly i'm just

1151
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 7: the SHOW i saw, You kenny at The garden was absolutely.

1152
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 7: Fantastic the ambiance was. Good they're doing everybody's doing a great.

1153
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 7: Job they really. Are but the like, again THE ufc was.

1154
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 7: First they have the money behind them and they really

1155
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 7: do a good job on some of the little. Things

1156
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 7: so there's other organizations like even with THE covid, policies

1157
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 7: got tortured for no reason like THE ufc just came

1158
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 7: through beautifully and in areas where where they hit a

1159
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 7: couple of, bumps many they got, down they did it

1160
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 7: the right. Way AND i don't know that that's again

1161
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 7: Anytime i'm, Complaining i'm complaining for my fighters as far as,

1162
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 7: organization and people at THE ufc absolutely loved, them always.

1163
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: WILL i always feel like home.

1164
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 7: There and uh, again half of this ship is just you,

1165
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 7: know to get people curse you out on the comments

1166
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 7: and you know all of that. Stuff so all The

1167
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 7: organs Like kenny's, right it's just a good, time if you,

1168
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 7: know if you're AN mma.

1169
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 5: Guy but they've done. That that's how good of the

1170
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 5: job they've. Done is that that's the.

1171
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 7: First thing people, SAY i want to be in THE,

1172
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 7: ufc you know WHAT i. Mean so you got to

1173
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 7: give it a hads off to. Them, yeah they think

1174
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 7: a great job With, BRANDON i, mean and it's just

1175
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 7: the way it, is and you, know they deserve everything

1176
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 7: they've they've. Got uh you, know Obviously i'd like to

1177
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 7: change a couple of, things but my, position.

1178
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: But, yeah that's. It, NO i like the way you

1179
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: lay that. OUT i also work For, bellatore So i've

1180
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: spent a lot of. Time Scott coke is a great. Guy,

1181
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: YEAH i didn't work great guys know for.

1182
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 7: Years what a just down to earth nice. Guy so

1183
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 7: it's just it's just A i'm going With. Kenny it's

1184
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 7: a good time to be an MM a.

1185
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 5: FIGHTER i was part of.

1186
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: The Pure Remney belatore, regime Not Scott, cocher but all.

1187
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 7: That, well now that we have nothing good to say about, him,

1188
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 7: yeah you know your mother said if you have nothing

1189
00:57:59,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 7: nice to say.

1190
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: Saying it, all, Hey i'll call you later this. Week

1191
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: we appreciate your contributions as awesome.

1192
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 7: Man, yeah definitely got a couple of things to tell

1193
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 7: you to so definitely all, right take it, easy.

1194
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: Guys that before the Right thank, you, Buddy Ray long

1195
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: go minute it every week here on The anak And Florian.

1196
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: Podcast i'm gonna call him later today and see IF

1197
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: i can get him to wish me a happy, birthday

1198
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: since he he didn't seem to want to on the.

1199
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: Show we will circle back to a few other headlines

1200
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: FROM Ufc, fight AND I i Know kenny's going to

1201
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: want to talk About Michael morales before we bounce on

1202
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: out of. Here but now joining us on the guest.

1203
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: Line i'm very excited for this, today ladies and. Gentlemen

1204
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: less than two weeks removed from the biggest win of his,

1205
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: career he IS ufc, featherweight IF i can call him,

1206
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: that chefe machine gun moda, skall my. Man welcome to

1207
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: The anak And Florian. PODCAST i appreciate you waking up

1208
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: early for. Us, congratulations it's good to see. You what

1209
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: has the reaction been to THAT ufc debut and has

1210
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: your life changed it all Since june twenty.

1211
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 8: Four, yeah for, Sure thanks for having me on first of,

1212
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 8: All and, yeah, man it's just everything's kind of a big.

1213
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 8: Change right after my, FIGHT i had to move apartments right,

1214
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 8: away SO i moved in a.

1215
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 4: DAY i had to go pick up my son In.

1216
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 8: PHILLY i had like eight hour, flights LIKE i had

1217
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 8: no sleep for the first week coming. Back my phone

1218
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 8: was blowing, up you, know from friends and you, know

1219
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 8: other fighter friends and the.

1220
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 4: Family so it was pretty.

1221
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: Cool you.

1222
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: Know it was kind of like if everything laid out

1223
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 4: in place the right, way you.

1224
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 8: KNOW i moved into my new, place getting things, organized

1225
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 8: showing my son a whole new. Lifestyle it was funny

1226
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 8: because every Time we're in the airport waiting for our.

1227
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 8: Fights people kept, up kept coming up and taking pictures with,

1228
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 8: me and my son was just like, like why do

1229
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 8: they take. Pictures i'm, like bro in THE, ufc you,

1230
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 8: KNOW i fight THE, tv you, know and he never he,

1231
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 8: LIKE i show him videos of me, fighting but he

1232
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 8: doesn't believe, me you.

1233
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 4: Know he believes my partner is more of a fighter

1234
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: THAN i.

1235
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 8: Am So i'm, like FINALLY i showed him like MY ufc,

1236
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 8: fight the whole, fight and he goes, like, man he goes,

1237
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 8: LIKE i had no, idea you, know like kind of

1238
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 8: he was kind of.

1239
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 4: Stunned then he was like glue to me the whole.

1240
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 8: Day so, yeah it's just, yeah it's Just i'm, GETTING

1241
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 8: i guess WHAT i, deserve you.

1242
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: KNOW i think that's a good way to put. It

1243
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: you're getting what you. Deserve and speaking of having no, idea,

1244
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: Like i'll be, CANDIDATE i had no idea who you

1245
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: were until this fight. Materialized but AS i was, preparing you,

1246
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: KNOW i ran into a lot of people who are

1247
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: Like i'm telling, you you, Know chepe should have been

1248
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: there a long time. Ago and when you look at

1249
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: the strength of schedule, Now you've won four straight, fights

1250
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: and we'll get into some of the schedule in the,

1251
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: past fights against guys Like Gregor, Gillespian Bryce. Mitchell but

1252
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: this is the longest winning streak of your. Career so

1253
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: something has. Clicked AND i don't know if you can

1254
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: pinpoint anything that has been the, difference but clearly you

1255
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: have found something of. Late why are you in a

1256
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: better place now stringing wins? Together maybe several years ago

1257
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: when you were trying to get to THE Ufcit so.

1258
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 8: It was it was definitely a you, know like a feeling,

1259
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 8: check you, know LIKE i had to check get my

1260
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 8: feelings checked out and really like controlled in the. Cage you,

1261
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 8: KNOW i had all the, Technique i've worked so, Hard

1262
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 8: i've done all the right, things BUT i never had

1263
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 8: coaches or the right advice to really like things, up you,

1264
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 8: know like diets and everything else that comes along with,

1265
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 8: fighting you, know like the, publicity the you, know the you,

1266
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 8: know not having so much, income you, know like all

1267
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 8: those kind of, battles you, Know and it was just

1268
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 8: things THAT i just. HAD i was not really focused

1269
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 8: in the, game you, know LIKE i was more kind

1270
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 8: of in and out with, it AND i had like

1271
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 8: family kind of like you, know people started making big

1272
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 8: bugs go and doing like real, estate doing other, things you,

1273
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 8: know and they were, like, hey, man you can have

1274
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 8: a house like.

1275
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 4: This AND i was just, like, MAN i you, know

1276
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 4: it's not for.

1277
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 5: Me you, KNOW i like.

1278
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 4: Fighting i'm gonna stick to.

1279
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: It you.

1280
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,959
Speaker 8: KNOW i did all these you, know all these part

1281
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 8: time jobs because you, know even if you have a

1282
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 8: full time, job they don't want to, like they don't

1283
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 8: want you call them. Off they don't want you to like.

1284
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 8: Traveling SO i can't find the right you, know. Balance

1285
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 8: so THEN i started getting more into.

1286
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 4: IT i watched.

1287
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 8: This That Michael jordan documentary on like looking at sports.

1288
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 8: Psychologists SO i started seeing a sports. PSYCHOLOGIST i started

1289
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 8: seeing a. THERAPIST i started talking more to my, coaches

1290
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 8: even my.

1291
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 4: Partner uh.

1292
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 8: Yeah it's just more of like thinking out things and

1293
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 8: really seeing like my, path you, know of like doing

1294
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 8: the right, things choosing the right, schedule the right.

1295
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 4: Fights you, know BEFORE i didn't have. THAT i was, like,

1296
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 4: Man i'll fight, anybody you, KNOW.

1297
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: I didn't really.

1298
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 8: CARE i was, like let's Go gregor WHO i don't,

1299
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 8: care you, know like you, KNOW i just didn't, care you,

1300
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 8: know LIKE i AND i still.

1301
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: Don't you, KNOW i never had that.

1302
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 8: Fear i've always had that like, competitiveness Like i'm a,

1303
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 8: Study i'm gonna do.

1304
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 4: FILM i never used to do. FILM i stole that

1305
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: film work From John.

1306
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 8: Jones you, Know LIKE i start and seeing all these

1307
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 8: other great, athletes you, know AND i just started picking

1308
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 8: little things and what really worked with.

1309
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 4: Me you, know not everything worked with.

1310
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 8: Me and you, know LIKE i was in a big church,

1311
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 8: guy but THEN i always started being a more church

1312
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 8: guy and uh listening to the messages and, picking uh

1313
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 8: pulling WHAT i can like fit into like my schedule that,

1314
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 8: week because every week is a new, message a new

1315
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 8: kind of thing going. On SO i was, like, man

1316
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 8: it's just, YEAH i was just started finding a great.

1317
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 8: Flow and now, YEAH i feel LIKE i FOUND i

1318
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 8: found something that's.

1319
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 6: Fascinating. Man what do you think is feeding? That you,

1320
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 6: Know i'm always fascinated, by you, know, uh the sport

1321
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 6: and how it tends to change. People is it the

1322
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 6: fight game that is changing you or is it your

1323
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 6: willingness to kind of want to be better in all

1324
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 6: different aspects of the? Sport you know WHAT i? Mean

1325
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 6: because if you fight long, enough you're, Like, OKAY i

1326
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 6: got to get better at, this, this this and, that

1327
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 6: and you start looking outside of. Yourself how else CAN

1328
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 6: i get? Better so what is feeding?

1329
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: WHAT i feel?

1330
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 8: Like it's uh, UH i THINK i like it was

1331
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 8: more of just like this competitiveness that was being fed,

1332
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 8: on you, know Like i'm always Like i'm From, Chicago.

1333
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 8: Illinois you, know everybody competes over. Everything you, know who's

1334
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 8: got the better, car the better, shoes the better. Anything

1335
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 8: SO i wanted to be that one person who was

1336
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 8: like the better, fighter you, know the better the better guy.

1337
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 4: In the, area you, know, uh the guy who was

1338
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 4: making the most. Noise SO i had that going.

1339
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 8: Up BUT i think what really, changes like the sport

1340
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 8: really changes by like you have to be very, disciplined you,

1341
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 8: know you have to be all, in you. Know like

1342
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 8: it's crazy THAT i meet a lot of athletes who

1343
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 8: who weren't all, in you, know who had like side

1344
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 8: jobs doing other, things And, sonny they quit their jobs

1345
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 8: and they're all in and.

1346
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 4: Soundy they were in THE ufc doing other.

1347
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 8: Things so THEN i was, like, man LIKE i THINK

1348
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 8: i wasn't all, in you, know LIKE i DIDN'T i

1349
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 8: did have the cornerman to talk to and they have

1350
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 8: like the people around. Me it was a very lonely.

1351
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 8: Sport and THEN I i started, losing SO i got even,

1352
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 8: lonelier you, know like you, know like, coach even some

1353
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 8: of the big top coaches started charging like, crazy like

1354
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 8: it just you know that you have to, know like

1355
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 8: you have to find your your footing in the. Game

1356
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 8: AND i just felt LIKE i had to be more you, know.

1357
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 8: Disciplined you KNOW i. DID i was chasing the dream

1358
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 8: SINCE i was nine years. Old but nobody's telling you

1359
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 8: what to do along the, way you, know like LIKE

1360
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 8: i just found out like about like savings and all

1361
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 8: this crazy, stuff you, know like you just.

1362
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 4: Started i'm like thirty years, old And i'm, Like, DANN

1363
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 4: i got to do all this.

1364
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 8: Like paperwork too for THE, Ufc like it's just, Insane

1365
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 8: like you start getting all these reality.

1366
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: Checks you, know what what does this?

1367
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 6: Fight you, know you had it obviously an amazing, Debut

1368
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 6: like what does this do for you now as you look,

1369
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 6: forward you know in YOUR ufc, career like not everyone

1370
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 6: has it has a fight like that in THE, Ufc

1371
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 6: and you, know how do you kind of keep your

1372
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 6: head together and what does this do for you motivate

1373
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 6: wise as you look.

1374
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 8: Forward, WELL i feel like those Losses i've, had you,

1375
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 8: know have really you, know like woken me up in

1376
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 8: a lot of, ways, like, uh like we can't fuck

1377
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 8: around in this, game you, know like you have to

1378
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 8: take it. Serious you, Know you're every fight is like

1379
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 8: you have to take it like your. Last you, know

1380
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 8: IF i felt that kind of, way even IF i you,

1381
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 8: know want or, loss you, Know I've i've learned how

1382
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 8: to like still pick myself, up you, know even the.

1383
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 8: LOSSES i was, like you, Know i'll show him next.

1384
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 8: Time you, know if he, won't he won't win next.

1385
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 8: Week that's ALL i, know you, know like Like i've

1386
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 8: always like always just picked myself, up you. Know and it, was,

1387
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 8: YEAH i don't, know it was it was all anime,

1388
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 8: too Like dragon BALL. Z you, know there's like characters

1389
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 8: losing and then they will power up and then come.

1390
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 8: Back and then it was just, like, man LIKE i

1391
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 8: want to be like, that you, KNOW i just want

1392
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 8: to be a known. Fighter and like you guys were

1393
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 8: just saying, earlier like, yeah, man it's a it's a

1394
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 8: pretty like cool time to like jump into.

1395
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 4: The m M a world right now and be in THE.

1396
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 4: Ufc you, know we get, Bonuses we got a lot more.

1397
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 8: Publicity you, know everything's on IN, Espn so like my

1398
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 8: family back In mexico know What i'm. Doing you, know

1399
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 8: it's it's it's, awesome you, know It's i'm glad how

1400
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 8: much the sport has.

1401
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: Grown Jeffe modiscal with us here on The anak And florian,

1402
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: podcast AND i do expect there will be a discretionary

1403
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: bonus of some kind come in your, way even though

1404
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: you didn't get the fight of the. NIGHT i actually

1405
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 1: think when we talk about the fights of the year

1406
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: on The anak And florian, podcast sometimes beauty is in

1407
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: the eye of the, beholder and some people felt like

1408
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: at times the fight wasn't overly, technical perhaps because Of

1409
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: trevor who, knows. RIGHT i think your fight's going to

1410
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: be one that we're talking about come the end of the.

1411
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: Year But Kamzat chimayev always talked about wanting a war

1412
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: in THE, ufc and he finally got it Against Gilbert.

1413
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: Burns you get essentially a war in YOUR ufc. Debut

1414
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on that fight With Trevor peak

1415
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: when you went back home and watched it.

1416
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 8: Back, WELL i was PRETTY i was pretty surprised because

1417
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 8: the you know all he had a good chin on.

1418
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 8: Him you, KNOW i hit him with a lot of good,

1419
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 8: things a lot of sharp. Stuff i'm GLAD I LIKE i,

1420
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 8: said my corner kept me very.

1421
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 4: Focused you.

1422
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 8: Know they were like man, like Like i'm used to

1423
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 8: guys going out like after those, shots you, know LIKE i.

1424
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 8: Was and that's that's the thing that you have to

1425
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 8: be trained as a fighter, Too like even if your

1426
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 8: sharp stuff don't, work like you got to just keep

1427
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 8: just adding on that sharp, stuff you. Know like AND

1428
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 8: i looked at it as like a video, game you,

1429
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 8: know like you keep attacking those those hard, spots you,

1430
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 8: know and then you know eventually you'll get. SOMETHING i

1431
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 8: didn't get, anything but, MAN i JUST i was more

1432
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 8: happy of explaining a little taste of WHO i, am you,

1433
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 8: know in ten days notice against an opponent LIKE i

1434
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 8: didn't have any sparing partners who punch like, him you,

1435
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 8: know like it was just it was, wild like that's

1436
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 8: WHY i couldn't see some.

1437
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 4: Punches they were like a loupie, somewhere like if you'll stab,

1438
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 4: me you, know.

1439
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: It was just, like, man it was like dabs like downward,

1440
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: Gamorfists AND i got to, say watching your Partner Claire,

1441
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: guthrie who's also a, fighter and the Lower, cabolero your head,

1442
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: coach right watching them sort of watch you after the

1443
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: fact when seemingly the result was in the cam we

1444
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: knew you were gonna win the. Fight it was just

1445
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: really cool to watch that. Moment BUT i guess WHAT

1446
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: i most took away was something you touched on earlier

1447
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: in our. Conversation just this, fearlessness like you don't give

1448
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: a shit in terms of like the setting or the

1449
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: stage or the. Opponent AND i don't know if that's

1450
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: because you were fighting guys Like Gregor gillespie And Bryce

1451
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: mitchell when you didn't have what amounted to an optimal training,

1452
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: Camp but why were you so ice water in the, veins, calm, cool.

1453
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: COLLECTED i know you've credited your corner with keeping your

1454
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: head in the, game but why were you able to

1455
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: sort of rise to this occasion through a wild fight

1456
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: in A ufc debut when a lot of people kind

1457
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: of crumble in that.

1458
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 4: SET i JUST i have that dog in, me, Man

1459
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 4: it's just like it's like that In.

1460
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 8: Chicago, dude you can't like you can't just go up

1461
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 8: to somebody and you, know like square up with anybody

1462
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 8: because you don't know who you fight, it you. Know

1463
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 8: SO i felt LIKE, i, like you, KNOW i. WAS

1464
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 8: i always had that chip on my shoulder Where i'm, like,

1465
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 8: Man I'm i'm going to be the best book, competitively you,

1466
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 8: know like not outside of the. Cage i'm not like

1467
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 8: an asphal. WAR i don't give a fuck what was going,

1468
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 8: on you, Know like it's more of like man in the,

1469
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 8: cage like this is my. Domain you, Know i've been

1470
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 8: doing this.

1471
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 5: SINCE i was.

1472
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 4: Small this is the, dream you.

1473
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 8: KNOW i feel so LIKE i even in the WHEN

1474
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 8: i was walking, out everybody was, like, man did you

1475
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 8: like shot like going to? Shock like did you get

1476
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 8: nervous or? ANYTHING i was, like, Nah i'm. Home this

1477
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 8: is WHERE i. Belong this is this is what you,

1478
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 8: know this is WHAT i love to. DO i hope

1479
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 8: THE ufc loves it, too you.

1480
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 4: Know AND i was just, like, Man i'm all, in you,

1481
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 4: know all.

1482
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: In, well there are a lot of people that deserve

1483
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: credit for your. Success you yourself chief among them first and,

1484
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: foremost but your late, mother WHO i know wanted you

1485
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: to continue with this, initiative and you're certainly reaping the

1486
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: rewards BEFORE i let you. Go so you have mentioned

1487
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: since the fight that you could conceivably compete in three.

1488
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: Divisions now you were able to accept this opportunity up

1489
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 1: at one hundred and fifty five, pounds you have flirted

1490
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Speaker 1: at least verbally with going down to Ban but are

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Speaker 1: we to assume that your next contracted fight in THE

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Speaker 1: ufc will be? Featherweight is that where you think your

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Speaker 1: wheelhouse ultimately is going to.

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Speaker 4: Be, yeah for, Sure LIKE i it would be fun to.

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Speaker 8: Go you, know it's because of my, height you, know

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Speaker 8: like five, seven AND i see these thirty fibers who are,

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Speaker 8: like you, know five, eleven And i'm, like, man maybe

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Speaker 8: IF i get some help from like THE, ufc THE,

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Speaker 8: pi you, know like some like more science you, know into.

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Speaker 5: IT i.

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Speaker 8: DID i was doing a lot of like you, know

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Speaker 8: these type programs and stuff like, that and that was

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Speaker 8: just not feeling myself so, good like being at a

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Speaker 8: lower weight. Class LIKE i walk around and train at

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Speaker 8: one sixty, Five SO i, LIKE i like to stay

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Speaker 8: a little, big BUT i try to get like during

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Speaker 8: like fight week for, Featherweight i'll go down to like

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Speaker 8: one fifty five fifty, four you, know so, whatever, MAN

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Speaker 8: i just, like you, Know i'm open to the, competitiveness you,

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Speaker 8: know like why not you know there's guys that's a two?

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Speaker 8: Champ why not a three? Champ you, know like you,

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Speaker 8: know like start that kind of. Station that'd be cool

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Speaker 8: if some other people you, know accomplished that, dream you.

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Speaker 8: Know and, yeah a fifty, Five LIKE i, Said i've

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Speaker 8: fought there, before obviously took the shot ten days.

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Speaker 5: Notice you.

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Speaker 4: KNOW i feel like that's fighters that want to be

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Speaker 4: in THE. Ufc they have to be ready like, that you,

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Speaker 4: know ten.

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Speaker 8: Days i've taken a one forty five championship belt fight

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Speaker 8: in five days, notice AND i want.

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Speaker 4: THAT i was just, like, man, okay this is everything

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Speaker 4: that's preparing me for you, know the big show THE.

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Speaker 4: Ufc you. Know SO i felt, like, yeah one forty

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Speaker 4: five is. Good, yeah and then IF i, can IF

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Speaker 4: i go to THE pi.

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Speaker 8: Or whatever or find this nutritionist to, like you, know

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Speaker 8: test all my stuff and then go like hey, man

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Speaker 8: you could touch thirty, five, yeah then might as well try,

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Speaker 8: it you.

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