1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, December twenty sixth, twenty 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: twenty three. Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: me and your man, MG. Marcus Grant joined by Michael 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: lef Floria. Got a fun episode for you today. We 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: got our biggest takeaways from week sixteen. Plus we're airing 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: grievances as part of Fantasy Festives and Matt o'cotta's gonna 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: drop byo with this top waiver wire targets for Championship Week. 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: Did you have any merry Christmas, mister Florio, Uh, for. 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: Real life, yes, for fantasy no, it was terrible. But 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: speaking of Christmas, those are new, aren't they They are? 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: I did. I got some new kicks. Shout out to 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: the wife for these nice new pair Jordan's the pad 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: and leather with gold the gold swoosh. Yeah. Yeah, it 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: was a I'm sort of with you. It was a 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: good day overall. Enjoyed it at spend time with the family, 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: ate way too much food, have way too many leftover. 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Fantasy was sort of a mixed bag, good in one league, 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: not so good an others, And then the night ended 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers getting thumped by the Ravens. 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: That was not fun, at least not for me. It 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: was kind of a mixed day, but I'll take it 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: on the whole. Got a lot to talk about on 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: the show because we got our biggest takeaways from week sixteen, 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: our top performers, disappointments, we will have some Waiver Wire 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: targets with Matt Ocotta joining us later, and we got 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Fantasy fest of Us. Yeah, I know it's a few 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: days late from actual festiv Us, but this is our 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: first show since then, and we're gonna air some grievances 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: about what we saw over the weekend and maybe over 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: the course of the season as well. Of course, we 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: are here with you a little bit later in the 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: normal We normally Doly Monday show, but Monday was Chris, 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: you know the whole deal. Anyway, let's get to some 34 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: fantasy headlines, because that's normally what we do at this 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: time of the show. Starting in Kansas City, where things 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: don't look great for the Chiefs. They suffer an ugly 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: loss to the Raiders, and then Isaiah Pacheco, their star 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: running back, suffers a concussion. We'll see what his status is. 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Four Week seventeen but you've got Isaiah Pachecko in concussion protocol, 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: You've got Jack McKinnon on injured reserve. Is it, cechs z. 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 3: N it is? 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: If Isaiah Pichecko is out this week, Clyde Edwardsilaire becomes 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: a running back that you one hundred percent should start 44 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: in the Fantasy Championships this week. The Bengals have struggled 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: against the run and particularly in allowing a lot of 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: explosive runs this season, and the Chiefs, man, like, were 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: you guys out to get Pachecko this week? 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: Is how it comes off? 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: Twice in the same play, his old lineman kicks him 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: in the head, He goes to sit on a table 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: and the table collapses. I guess that's kind of an 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: innuendo for how the last like six weeks have been 53 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: for the chief season. But man, everything went wrong for 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: Isaiah Pachecko this this past week outside of that one 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: really impressive run for. 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: The touchdown, Yeah, it really did. Here's the thing about 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Ceh is that he really has been very quietly getting 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: a bigger role in this offense. Those couple of weeks 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: when Pachecko was out with an injury, we all thought 60 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: maybe this is when it goes to be maximum McKinnon, 61 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: and it never was had the majority of the snaps, 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: he was getting most of the rushing attempts. It was 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: McKinnon getting the targets, but Clyde Edwards Delaiir was getting 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot more work than I think we anticipated. And 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: so even when Pacheco came back, Edward de Laire was 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: the RB two in this offense. Now, if there is 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: no Pacheco and there is no McKinnon, it maybe all 68 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Cech all the time in the Chiefs backfield. The question 69 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: becomes then the Chiefs score points, which is not a 70 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: thing you're used to saying about a Patrick Mahomes led 71 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs offense. I know my friends who are Raider fans 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: are enjoying it. I know Josh is trying not to 73 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: smile too big over there behind the table in Pittsburgh. 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin says that Mason Rudolph currently on track to 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: be the Steelers starting quarterback this week against the Seattle Seahawks. 76 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: Rudolph came out of nowhere and had a huge game 77 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: this past week against the Bengals. I was out with 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the fam, just kind of enjoying the day on Saturday, 79 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: stopped by a sports park, just kind of walked by 80 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: and saw the score, was like, oh my god, didn't 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: you expect the Steelers were gonna thump the Bengals the 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: way they did and Mason Rudolf had a day. So 83 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: I guess first question, would you stream Mason Rudolph this week? 84 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: In two QB leagues? 85 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: I do think he is in play because I mean, 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: in two quarterback leagues we're getting pretty desperate, and in 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: one league that's say two quarterback league, I could have 88 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: been going for a three peat this week had I 89 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: started Mason Rudolph over Case Keenum, I'm never playing keys 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: Keenum ever again. But if Mason Rudolph looks good like 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: I know it was a couple of long touchdown passes 92 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: to George Pickens, but that is something that is in 93 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: the realm of possibility with the Steelers. Now, Yes, the 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: floor with Mason Rudolf is probably single digits. So again 95 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: that's why I think he's best left for two quarterback leagues. 96 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: But if you're in that format, I think he comes 97 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: into play. 98 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: I think he definitely comes into play. I just worry 99 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: about the variance with Mason Rudolph because there's a wide switch. 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: He'll give you games like you saw on Saturday, and 101 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: then he'll be awful. And this is a scary time 102 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: of year for him to suddenly show up and be 103 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: awful for you in week seventeen. So that's my only 104 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: concern with starting Mason Rudolph coming up this week against 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: a Seattle pass defense that has been okay at times. 106 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: The run defense has been much worse for Seattle than 107 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: their past defense has been. But on the other side, 108 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: George Pickens went kaboom this past week one hundred and 109 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: ninety five yards. Joel Smith, our excellent researcher, pointed out 110 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: that I think twenty nine percent of George Pickens' fantasy 111 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: production this year has come on four plays. Wow, who 112 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: George thinkots is? So? I mean taking that into account 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: with Mason Reoff at quarterback, how do you feel about 114 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, Pickens, Deontay Johnson, Pat Farm With any of 115 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: the pass catchers in that. 116 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: Offense, the only one I would play is George Pickens 117 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: because the upside is so high. I understand that the 118 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: floor is single digits as well, but like Deontay Johnson, 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: needs a touchdown to get double digit fantasy points. Pat 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: Fryarmouth needs a touchdown to get more than five Fantasy points. 121 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: It feels like And there was an article that came 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: out on Steelers dot Com before this game this week, 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: and that was like, uh, Mason Rudolph has great chemistry 124 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: with Deontay Johnson. He's gonna go rely on him whenever 125 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: he needs to two catches for fifteen yards. 126 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a complete swing and miss. 127 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: The only one I think you could even consider playing 128 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: is Pickens speak, and that's because of the ceiling. 129 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Understand it's very boom or bust. It is very boom 130 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: or bust, and so I think I'm with you. You're 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: starting Pickens just sort of understanding that it could be great. 132 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: It could be you know, two catches for twenty five yards. 133 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that really is the range of outcomes for 134 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: a Mason Rudolph George Pickens pairing Deontay Johnson is just 135 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: he lives in a tiny house, right, The ceiling and 136 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: the floor very close together, and I think with Mason 137 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: Rudolph at quarterback, both of those are a little bit 138 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: lower than they normally would be. Remember back when everybody's like, oh, Mason, 139 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: Ro's gonna throw James Washington when like the Steelers Heckers, 140 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: like they were college teammates and they were roommates together 141 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: and like that note workout at all. Yeah, that didn't 142 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: work out even a little bit, all right, So that 143 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: is what we're sort of looking ahead toward. Of course, 144 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: we'll have more later in the week as we learn 145 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: more about what the status some of these players are. 146 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's take a look back and eat 147 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: some of our biggest takeaways from Week sixteen. What is 148 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: a thing you learned from what you just watched? 149 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: The Fantasy semi finals week continues to be the week 150 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: every single year where weird stuff happens in fantasy football. 151 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: It used to be Week fifteen, Now it's Week sixteen. 152 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: Where I don't know about you, Marcus. In most of 153 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: my leagues, it feels like the top teams all got. 154 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: Eliminated this week. 155 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: You look at the leader board this week, Okay, Josh 156 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: Allen QB one. Then it's Derek Carr and Joe Flacco 157 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: as top three quarterbacks. Joe Flacco didn't have a team 158 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: six weeks ago. Look at the wide receivers. You get 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: like George Pickens as a as the number two tight end. 160 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: It's Chago konkquo. You could have played Jason Sanders like 161 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: I did in the Fantasy Live league, who routinely puts 162 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: up single digit Fantasy points and had not top twelve 163 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: in a game, and he drops twenty two on you, 164 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: like this week is the week where, and it's always 165 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: late in the year, so much changes. You could think 166 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: in week twelve that you have a great team, but 167 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: you need to keep making moves and stuff because weird 168 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: stuff is gonna happen, and these players that are on 169 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: waiver wires and week ten to eleven twelve might win 170 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: you a championship come week sixteen. 171 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: It's sort of like the olden days when Dave Letterman 172 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: used to do his nightly Top ten. Number two was 173 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: always funnier than number one. Sort of the same way 174 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: the fantasy season there the second to last week is 175 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: always a little bit weirder than the last week, pending 176 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: the off season. Patrick Mahomes, I'm gonna admit so like 177 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: I think when I wrote this originally, I was a 178 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: little bit in my feelings and I said, not a 179 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback. Next season, I'll say top eight. But 180 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: either way, I think what we've seen of Mahomes in 181 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense is concerning. We're seeing teams sort of 182 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: put somebody over the top that the Chiefs don't have 183 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: the speed to really beat you down the field. Now 184 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: that they don't have Tyreek Hill, they're starting to clamp 185 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: down on Travis Kelce, who hasn't scored a touchdown in 186 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: what feels like a couple of months now, and you're 187 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: seeing Patrick Mahomes sort of look like a mortal bank there. 188 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: It didn't help that they're turning the ball over ends 189 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: looking sloppy, But the Chiefs have really been winning with 190 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: defense and staying in games with defense, and we've all 191 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: been kind of waiting for their offense to kick it 192 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: in the gear and it hasn't happened. And Rashie Rice 193 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: has been a nice addition to the offense, but he's 194 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: not really a downfield threat. Where you're not getting anything 195 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: out of Marquez Valdez scanting that's not really a surprise. 196 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: Sky Moore is a bus Kadarius Tony is somewhere in 197 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: outer space. It seems like mentally a lot of times 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: this offense is not what we're used to seeing. And 199 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: unless the Chiefs go out whether it's in free agency 200 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: or in the draft, and add some really dynamic pass 201 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: catchers who can stretch the field, who can be a 202 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: threat away from the line of scrimmage. Patrick Mahomes is 203 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: not the slam dunk top three quarterback pick that we've 204 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: been used to seeing in the last few. 205 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: Years, and in a year where every quarterback is dropping 206 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: like flies, he is the QB seven in total points 207 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: and even lower end points per game because you have 208 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: guys like Justin Herbert, Kyler, Murray, Justin Fields who missed time, 209 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. But we're averaging more fantasy points per game 210 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: than Mahomes. And this is something I put on Twitter, 211 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: like you're gonna hear a lot of talk about like 212 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: early round quarterback was a bad mistake. No, it was 213 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: only bad if you took Mahomes over Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts. 214 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 2: If you took those other two, you are fine and 215 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: loving that strategy. 216 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh Allen's the QB one. Jalen Hurts is the 217 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: QB two. I mean, I'm not even close. Lamar Jackson 218 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: was a fairly earlier round quarterback. He's the QB four 219 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: right now. Those guys all did you well. Patrick Mahomes 220 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: was the one who lets you down a little bit. Meanwhile, 221 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: we talk about tight ends and how the tight end 222 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: position has gotten deeper, and then we got burned by 223 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: a couple this week. 224 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: Oh we got burned by a whole bunch this week. 225 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: Laporta head less than five. Don kincaid is unusable right now. 226 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: But Trey McBride was the one that I thought was 227 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: a little because like as awesome as Sam Laporta is, 228 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: he has been a little up and down week to week. 229 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: Tray McBride was the exact opposite. 230 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: He was giving you double. 231 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: Digits pretty much every single week, and most weeks giving 232 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: you over twenty. That did not come to fruition. This 233 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: week he finished with just It was nine Fantasy points, 234 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: six catches, thirty one yards, which isn't a bad game 235 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: for a tight end, Like if that's his floor, that's 236 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: a good thing. But I needed Trey McBride to be 237 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: big click regular train McBride this week. 238 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: And he wasn't. 239 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: And watching that game, it was more of a struggle 240 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: than even the fantasy numbers appear like they were hitting 241 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: him hard and stuff it. Hey, it's a reminder that 242 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: even your stars can have a down game. 243 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: Even the starters can have a bad week. Look if 244 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: you survived it, chance from the bounce back against the Eagles, 245 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: But if you did not survive it, well, sorry about 246 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: your luck. My last one is that your fantasy wide 247 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: receivers can still succeed even with a backup quarterback. And 248 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: it's this is not just I guess a week sixteen takeaway. 249 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: This is a takeaway from the last few weeks of 250 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: the season, but specifically, I mean, we look at George 251 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: Pickens and what he did with Mason Rudolph. We've seen 252 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: kJ Osborne go out and have big games, whether it's 253 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: been with Josh Dobbs or Nick Mullens, t Higgins going 254 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: out and balling out with Jake Browning. I think we 255 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: all kind of fall into this mindset that when a 256 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: backup quarterback's coming in, then everybody's going to take a 257 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: big step back and everybody's going to be downgraded. And 258 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: in some cases that really is the case. But I 259 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: don't think we should just automatically discount a guy because 260 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback isn't the normal starter, especially because a lot 261 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: of times these guys in the situations where they have 262 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: to throw the football a lot, and so it's that 263 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: reminder that if a quarterback is bad, it doesn't necessarily 264 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: mean that the wide receiver is going to be bad. 265 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of qbs have awful days, but 266 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: their pass catchers go out and succeed. So just a 267 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: little thing to kind of keep in your back pocket 268 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: for maybe the remainder of this season and going into 269 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: next season as well, that the backup qbs do not 270 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: equal necessarily equal poor product from wide receivers. We're gonna 271 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: talk about some guys though that did not give you 272 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: bad performances. We're gonna talk about the top performers of 273 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: the week. Oh yeah, we'll talk about some disappointments too. 274 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: That's coming up next here on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. 275 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: Top performers for Week sixteen, and we're actually all done 276 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: normally we do this. We still have the Monday night 277 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: game to go, but that's all over. Josh Allen, your 278 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: top scoring quarterback, just to shade under twenty five points, 279 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: which seems kind of low for the top scoring quarterback 280 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: in any given week, but here we are. Bryce Hall 281 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: had himself a day two touchdowns on the ground, also 282 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: twelve catches, for ninety six yards forty three point one 283 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: fantasy points. That was not good enough to be the 284 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: top scorer of the week, though, because Amari Cooper went 285 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: for eleven catches, two hundred and sixty five yards and 286 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: two touchdowns fifty one and a half points. Fun note 287 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: about that that was not the highest score of the 288 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: season because Jamar Chase had fifty two points earlier this 289 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: year for the Bengals. George Kittle seven catches for one 290 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six yards, nearly twenty points for him. 291 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: Jason Sanders, as you mentioned earlier, Florio five field goals, 292 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: one pat that was twenty two points, and the Raiders 293 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: defense twenty one points against the Chiefs, four sacks, a pick, 294 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: a fumble recovery, and two touchdowns. Those two touchdowns coming 295 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: on back to back offensive plays for Kansas City, which 296 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: is a thing that you just don't see. 297 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: The Raiders should have had another interception on Mahomes too. 298 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: That was clearly a pick in my opinion, look. 299 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Like it, but he got away with it at least, 300 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, temporarily. So the Raiders them having themselves a 301 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: good day, and you know, maybe we'll see if this 302 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: is enough to get Antonio Pierce, the interim tag removed 303 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: and just making him the head coach. You would think 304 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: so stranger things have happened. But let's talk about the 305 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: top performers from the week. And I don't know how 306 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: we don't talk about Amari Cooper and not only what 307 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: he's done with Joe Flacco, but specifically what he did 308 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: on Week sixteen. 309 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundred and sixty five yards broke Josh Gordon's 310 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: Brown franchise record. I was a little set see Josh 311 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: Gordon lose that record. Two touchdowns, fifty one and a 312 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: half fantasy points. And the thing is he is a 313 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: wide receiver one this year and look at who his 314 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: quarterbacks have been. He had four games I think it 315 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: is a five games something like that with a full 316 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: healthy Deshaun Watson. It's been dtr PJ Walker and now 317 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco who's getting the most out of it. Joe 318 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: Flacco is playing the best ball of his career. Somehow, 319 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, but Amari Cooper over twenty fantasy points 320 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: in over one hundred yards in each of his last 321 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: two games. 322 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: A must. 323 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: I know he plays the Jets this week, very tough matchup. 324 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: I do not see how there's any way you get 325 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: away from Amari Cooper. 326 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: You can't not play Amari Cooper this week. I don't 327 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: care what the matchup is, because he's actually averaging twice 328 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: as many points with Joe Flacco as he did with 329 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: any other quarterback in Cleveland so far this year. I'm 330 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: gonna go back a few days and give you Jamiir Gibbs. 331 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: And maybe some of it is me being salty because 332 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: I played against Jamior Gibbs in a league and was 333 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: really frustrated seeing it be all Jamiir Gibbs and know 334 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: David Montgomery in the second half, But it's a reminder 335 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: of how explosive he can be when he gets those opportunities. 336 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: The eighty yards on fifteen carries a couple of touchdowns 337 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: on the ground, and we have seen as the season 338 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: has gone on that the Lions feel more comfortable expanding 339 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: his role, giving him more opportunities. Now, look, I don't 340 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: think that all of a sudden next year he's just 341 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: going to completely push David Montgomery aside. I think it's 342 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: still going to be kind of a two headed backfield 343 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: back there. But the Jamior Gibbs we're seeing now is 344 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: the guy that we anticipated seeing at the beginning of 345 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: the season. So a shout out to the Lions for 346 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: giving him the opportunity and shout out to Gibbs for 347 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: taking advantage of it. So Gibbs having himself a day. 348 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: We said last week there were still two Jets you 349 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: could count on, Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall. I know 350 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Wilson got a little bit banged up, but it didn't 351 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: really matter because Breese Hall was kind of doing his thing. 352 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just look at the last two games for 353 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: Breeze Hall and this kind of tells you who how 354 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: the Jets offense has been in a microcosm this year. 355 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: But forty three point one this week, two point eight 356 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: the week before. Most weeks he's good for like ten 357 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: to twelve Fantasy points. But it's just a reminder of like, 358 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: this is why you stick with someone as explosive as 359 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 2: Breese Hall. And look right there, sixteen targets, twelve catches, 360 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: and it looks like Trevor Simian is going to be 361 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: the quarterback again this week. He is going to dump 362 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: it off plenty to Breas Hall. Even in a tough 363 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: matchup against the Browns. You have to start him. I'm 364 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: facing him in a championship week and I am bracing 365 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: for another twenty point performance. 366 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: On Thursday nights. 367 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: Very much seems like it could be in the cards, 368 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: because again, there are only really two places that the 369 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: Jets can go with the football. It's Breese Hall, It's 370 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. I think it's gonna be a low scoring 371 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: game against the Browns, but that doesn't mean Haul's not 372 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of touches there. Look what we 373 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: saw this past weekend from Derrick Henry might be the 374 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: last great Derrick Henry performance we get with him in 375 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: a Tennessee Titans uniform. I know the speculation is that 376 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: this is probably the last go around with him. I 377 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: think he's even sort of kind of hinted that he 378 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: may be moving on from Tennessee. They've got the Texans 379 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: this week, they got the Jaguars. Yeah, and look, I 380 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: know historically he has played very well against those teams. 381 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: But I think what we saw out of Derrick Henry, 382 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: the eighty eight yards on the ground, the touchdown, even 383 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: a twelve yard touchdown pass to chick Aconkuo, this feels 384 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: like sort of the last big hurrah for Dereck Henry, 385 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of good to have it, especially to bounce 386 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: back from that game the week before against the Texans. 387 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: We talked about it, the twenty touches for ten total 388 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: scrimmage yards. It was sort of nice to see him 389 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: get back to being Derrick Henry again. You know, I 390 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: don't know what we do with him next year. I 391 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: think he's a guy who probably falls into what fourth 392 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: round maybe in drafts, depends where he ends up. Yeah, 393 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: very true. So, but at least for one more week, 394 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: you got to really solid Derek Henry performance. James Connor Man, 395 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: this dude's eating against really tough matchups the last few weeks. 396 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he for a while, the last few weeks in 397 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: a row. Now has had it, like Marcus said, a 398 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: bunch of tough matchups. 399 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: He finishes the RB four on the week, gave you. 400 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: Almost twenty three Fantasy points. This week against the forty 401 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: nine Ers gave you eighteen. The game before that against 402 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: the Steelers gave you twenty three. He is so hot 403 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: right now. He is getting a lot of volume. And 404 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 2: one thing I said last week on the show was 405 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: like they're giving him all the volume on the ground. 406 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: We need to get him more involved in the passing game, 407 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 2: because that's how you could take advantage of a matchup 408 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: like the Bears, and that's exactly what they did. He 409 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: had more rushing, receiving yards and rushing he had a 410 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: receiving touchdown. Now he gets the Eagles this week, a 411 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: very tough defensive line to run on. But if they're 412 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: getting him involved in the air, I think I don't see, 413 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: with how good he has been as of late and 414 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: now the added usage as a pass catcher, how you 415 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: can get away from him even in a tough match. 416 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how you get away from him. 417 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, I don't even know that the match. 418 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: It is tough, it's not as tough as it was 419 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: earlier in the season because lately the Eagles have been 420 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: a little bit softer against the run. So even then, 421 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: I would have very few concerns about playing James Connor 422 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: next week. So Derek Carr, I'm not gonna sit here 423 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: and paint you a picture of Derek Carr playing really 424 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: great football because that hasn't been the case. But he's 425 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: gone and had some decent fantasy games in back to 426 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: back weeks. Two weeks in a row with twenty Fantasy points. 427 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: This week he has a very good matchup against the 428 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's sort of doing it. I don't 429 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: really want to call it garbage time, because things got 430 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: really interesting against the Rams on Thursday night. He brought 431 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: them back through a couple of touchdowns, got it to 432 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: within one score. But he is doing a lot of 433 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: his work with the Saints down multiple scores. This is 434 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: one of those things where they don't ask how, they 435 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: ask how many. And the points have been piling up 436 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: for Derek Carr, regardless of whether they come early or 437 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: come late. Chances are you gonna have to endure a 438 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: really weird interception somewhere in there as well. But then 439 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: he'll do things like sling it down field to at 440 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: Perry or get the ball to Chris Olave. So it's 441 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: not always the easiest watch when you're talking about Derek Carr. 442 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: But the last two weeks he's actually put up decent 443 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: numbers and this week has a good matchup. So weirdly, 444 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: Derek Carr and two quarterback leagues very much in play 445 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I still just for the 446 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: fun they want to see Jamis, but I think that 447 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: ship has kind of sailed, you know, right. So those 448 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: are the guys who performed well this past week, and 449 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: now the disappointments. You got to see these disappointments in 450 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: person this weekend. 451 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: There is nothing worse than seeing like half of your 452 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: fantasy teams crash and burn live. And that's what happened 453 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: when I went to watch the Bills and Chargers play. 454 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: The two teams of my Big six that won have 455 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. The rest have Stefan Diggs, James Cook, Dalton 456 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: Kincaid and James Cook. 457 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: I'll even give a. 458 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: Pass like I wouldn't have survived in some places in 459 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: Week fourteen or Week fifteen without his big performance. He 460 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: had a bunch of volume. You're still starting James Cook, 461 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid get away from him. Less than two Fantasy 462 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: points in his last two games combined, less than ten 463 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: in the three games since Dawson Knox has come back, 464 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 2: and the Big One I have Stefan Diggs as they 465 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: sit this week, less than ten Fantasy points per games 466 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: since Week ten, third year in a row where he 467 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: puts up his worst stats in December. Despite Josh Allen 468 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: putting up his best numbers. The Patriots have been stingy. 469 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: If you survived get this far with Stefan Diggs, I 470 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: think you could get away from him in championship. 471 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: So here's one we talked about on Fantasy Live on 472 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: Tuesday that Cynthia put out there, Puka Nakua or Stefan 473 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: Diggs pokah No questions asked for me. Yeah, I mean 474 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: that's where she was going to And I think that's 475 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: the right answer at this point because Stephan Diggs has 476 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: been meh at best for a little while now. Sam 477 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: Laporta a big disappointment. We talked about the tight ends 478 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: that's sort of underwhelmed, and Florio talked about trade McBride. 479 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: Sam Laporta another one fewer than five points this past 480 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: week for a guy who's been so good all season long. Look, 481 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you chalked this up to anything other 482 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: than it just kind of happened to be one of 483 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: those games, right. He only had three targets. He actually 484 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: caught all three of them, just eighteen yards. It was 485 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: not what you wanted. Hopefully it did not take you 486 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: out of a championship opportunity. If it did, sorry, I mean, 487 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: I have no control over that, but how lot of 488 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: you might can go and see none last one for sure? Yeah, 489 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean it just it was a bad game at 490 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: the worst possible time for a lot of fantasy managers. 491 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate. But I still think we're talking about 492 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: Sam Laporta as one of the top tight ends off 493 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: the board. Is he a top three tight end next 494 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: year in terms of draft. 495 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: He might be the tight end one. 496 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: That's gonna be an interesting discussion. 497 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna be him versus Hockinson versus an agent Kelsey. 498 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be really really interesting to talk about 499 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: next year about where Sam Laporta slots at among tight ends. 500 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: And he's not a first round pick though I think 501 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: I think we can sort of settle on that. But 502 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: where he slots in the hierarchy's gonna be very very interesting. So, 503 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: speaking of disappointments, I got a lot of problems with 504 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: you people. You're gonna hear about it so far a 505 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: Fantasy Festivals. We asked you on Twitter to send us 506 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: your grievances, the guys that you sort of wanted to 507 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: just vent about because they let you down, whether it's 508 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: this week or all season long, and you know we're gonna, 509 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna air some grievances right now. So 510 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: let's go through some of the tweets. This first one 511 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: comes from Michael who says, every time my bench to 512 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, he'd go off for twenty plus every time 513 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: he was in my lineup, he'd put him a goose egg. 514 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: This week he was on my bench and doubled up 515 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: both my flexes combined Cortland Sutton and Jalen Warren. That 516 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: sounds about right for Gabe Davis. 517 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: That is the Gabe Davis experience in a nutshell. I 518 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: will say the one thing looking at his game log, 519 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: the two big games that he's had in the last 520 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: like six weeks Eagles and Chargers, two great matchups for 521 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: a wide receivers. So maybe next year we don't draft 522 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: him as the top as a wide receiver. Three, we 523 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: take him over as a bench option and we play 524 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: him in the good matchup. 525 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: I think that's sort of what it is. I mean, 526 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: he is the new poster player for better and best 527 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: ball because you don't want you don't want to have 528 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: to put him in your line if you don't want 529 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: to have to guess like Michael did every week, and 530 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: you know most of the time guests wrong. You just 531 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: want to have him on your roster and then when 532 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: the games like what happened this weekend happened, you can 533 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: take advantage of it. So so Gabe Davis, the King 534 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: of better and best ball, Leandro says Mahomes quote back 535 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: on track game never came. I actually tweeted something similar 536 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: over the weekends, just that, like I keep waiting for 537 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense to get right, and the Chiefs offense 538 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: never keeps getting right. I mean, is it over for 539 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: Mahomes this year? Can it happen in the last next week? 540 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: I guess it can happen. He has since from Week 541 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: eight on one game where he topped seventeen Fantasy points. 542 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: I understand he's been terrible, but you know who's been 543 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: equally terrible the Bengals defense, and that's who he gets 544 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: next week. So we just saw Mason Rudolph torch them. 545 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't if you somehow survive Mahomes, I don't 546 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: think you could give up on him yet. Yeah, I mean, 547 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: it's just been so hard because I think everybody has 548 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: that same fear of I don't want to put him 549 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: on my bench and suddenly he goes off for like 550 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: thirty thirty five points. I don't know that the ceiling 551 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: is that high for him this year, but who knows. 552 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll say Chad tweets led the league in points, 553 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: still miss the playoffs. I'm not bitter at all, Josh, 554 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: is that your burner? Yeah? Yeah, man, you just got 555 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: to get that thing in your league where you get 556 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: like a bonus or something like that for being the 557 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: league leader in points. 558 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: My home league does it. First five playoff spots go 559 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: by record. Six is most points that of the five 560 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: of the teams that aren't in the top five in record. 561 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: I think all leagues should be that way, or play 562 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: like league median each week, because this should never be 563 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: the case where you score the most points and you 564 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: don't make them. 565 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: You should get you should get something for it, you know, 566 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: like have your league mats throw you a few bucks 567 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: is like a consolation. So in the meantime. Sorry, Yeah, 568 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: This one from Nick who says I should have sold 569 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: high on ETN when I had the chance. If it 570 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: makes you feel any better, and if you're still playing, 571 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: I like et in this week but I get it, 572 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: Like at the start of the year and he was 573 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: doing great. Really since the mid part of the year 574 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: he's been mediocre at best. But I do like his 575 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: opportunity this week against the Carolina Panthers, especially if Trevor 576 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: Lawrence can't play or is less than one hundred percent, 577 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: this potentially could be an et in week. 578 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: You know the dude in SpongeBob who's in like a 579 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: body cast all the time, That is is Trevor Lawrence 580 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: right now. I mean, how many injuries is this guy 581 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: dealing with? I agree with you, Marcus. I think this 582 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: is going to be a week where they rely heavily 583 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: on Travis Utn. 584 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean again, if you survived it, then 585 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: roll with him for this week. This one from Finn 586 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: at Cahill started Camaro over Breeze Hall and it lost 587 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: to me two leagues. I see the thought process. I do. 588 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: I had Kamara in two leagues as well. Those leagues 589 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: are no longer. 590 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: Fighting for a championship. There you go, So it makes 591 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: you feel better, Like I get it, Like Kamara is 592 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: getting a lot of volume. The Rams defense, it's been 593 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: just Rams defense is so so I can't really put 594 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: my finger on what it is that they do well 595 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: or do terribly. They're just kind of there, but they 596 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: were there enough to shut down Alvin Kamara. Meanwhile, we 597 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: talked about Breeze Hall going for forty plus points. Yeah, Finn, 598 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna be thinking about this for a long time. 599 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 1: I have no other words of comfort for you that 600 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: this is just going to weigh on your mind until 601 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: drafts next season. I mean last one from Steven Ms, 602 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Christian Kirk, somebody. You should stop drafting people 603 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: with Kirk in their names, Nick Chubb and Mark Andrews 604 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: this season, Yeah, man, injury suck. I wish I had 605 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: some more, you know, comfort for you. 606 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: In my home league, where I had the most points 607 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: in the best record all year long, I had Christian Kirk, 608 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: I had Michael Pittman, I had Mike Williams and a 609 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: compromise Tyreek Hill, and I lost by five. 610 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: So it's you could build the best team. 611 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: That is all you can do when a championship involves 612 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: a lot of luck. 613 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: I have a roster that lost lost Aaron Rodgers, Anthony 614 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: Richardson and Kirk Cousins for the season. Same roster lost 615 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: all three of those quarterbacks. Nothing you can do the 616 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: year sometimes just it just is not working for you. 617 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: So Steven, best of luck next season. All right, we 618 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: are not done yet. We're gonna bring in mattal Cott. 619 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some waiver wire because you probably still 620 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: need to make some moves as we get toward Championship week. 621 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: We got that to wrap things up here on the 622 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. Just because it's Week seventeen doesn't 623 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: mean you can't be playing the wire out there. Let's 624 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: get some of the tough waiver wire targets for the week. 625 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: Our pal Mattocad has put together his list for your 626 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: fantasy super Bowl. Some of the quarterback options available. Joe Flacco, 627 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: which wild that he's still available, but I guess not 628 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: as many teams are playing, so I will forgive you 629 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Baker Mayfield, Tyrod Taylor, who may or may 630 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: not be the Giant starting quarterback over Tommy DeVito. Stay 631 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: tuned ir running back. We got Ty Chandler, Clyde Edwards, Elaire, 632 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: Chase Brown, Khalil Herbert, and Zamir White. Keep an eye 633 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: on Josh Jacob's status. He's been banged up some of 634 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: the wide receivers DeMarcus Robinson or should shhed Joshua Palmer, 635 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: kJ Osborne, Mario Pop Douglas and the DJ Chark over 636 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: there taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars this week, and then 637 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: some tight ends Isaiah Likely, Gerald Everett and Juwan Johnson. 638 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of tight ends, we just talked 639 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: in the last segment about TJ. Hawkinson maybe being in 640 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: the running to be a Canada to be the top 641 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: tight end drafted. Well, we got this news coming in 642 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: as we were recording the show that TJ. Hawkinson has 643 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: a torn acl mcl out for the rest of the 644 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: season and likely a good chunk of next season. By 645 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: the way, some tight end white waiver Wire targets before 646 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: I get too far ahead of myself, the Colts, the Raiders, 647 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: the Rams, the Texans, and the Broncos all very much 648 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: in play for your defensive streaming needs. All right, Joining 649 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: us now, the man who writes the waiver Wire column 650 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: every week. It is Matt o'catta. You can check it 651 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: out at NFL dot com slash waiver Wire. So let's 652 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: talk through a few of these. Let's start with Derek 653 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: Carr because I mentioned earlier in the show. He isn't 654 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: playing exactly good, but the fantasy numbers have been pretty 655 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: good and the matchup at week seventeen is very good. 656 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: So even if watching a Derek Carr quarterback game is 657 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: not always easy on the eyes, Matt, it could be 658 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: a fantasy boon for a lot of people. 659 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: It has been a lot easier on the fantasy score 660 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: line than it has been the eyes lately. And listen, 661 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: you can say what you want about Derek Carr, and 662 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: I'm very well aware that most of it won't be 663 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: that great. But like it or not, he has posted 664 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: twenty plus fantasy points in two straight games. He had 665 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 4: three touchdowns in each of those against the Giants and 666 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: the Rams. Chris Olave is back and producing. He's got 667 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 4: Rashid Shahei downfield, Alvin Kamara underneath. He's got three tight 668 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 4: ends to target in the end zone, all of a sudden, 669 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: all of them seem capable of catching touchdowns. And even 670 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 4: with all of that, you would need a lot of 671 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: hutzpah and a great matchup to start Carr in Fantasy 672 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: in the finals, but you mentioned it. The matchup in 673 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: week seventeen is incredible. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have allowed 674 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: the most passing yards in the NFL this season. They 675 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 4: are number one or number thirty two, depending on how 676 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: you look at it, two hundred and eighty yards per 677 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: game through the air on average. I think cars in 678 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 4: great shape to record his seventh three three hundred yard 679 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 4: game of the season. If you've streamed your way here 680 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 4: to the finals, I think he's your best bet at 681 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: the title. 682 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: And the Giants look their quarterback room is a battle 683 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: of my heart because we have Tyrov the drought ender 684 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: for the Bills, and then my guy Tommy Cutlet's over there. 685 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: But DeVito was replaced by Tyrod Taylor this past week. 686 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: It injected some life into the Giants. They get a 687 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: great matchup this week. Do you think you could stream 688 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: the Giants quarterback regardless of who it is, or do 689 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: you prefer one over the other. 690 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 4: I think it's possible you could stream regardless of who 691 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: it is, but let's be very clear either way, this 692 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 4: is a desperation two QB league type of play. This 693 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: is not someone you're rolling in as a top ten 694 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: quarterback necessarily. I do prefer Tyrod Taylor by a little bit, 695 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: and it's almost entirely because of the rushing which he 696 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: has provided many many times over the course of his career. 697 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: And as of right now, we don't know who's going 698 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: to be starting. Brian Dables has been noncommittal. Like you said, 699 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: you know, Tommy Davido replaced at halftime on Christmas, so 700 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 4: tough to say what they'll do going forward. Also really 701 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 4: tough to see that story end in the middle of 702 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: Christmas night. Come on, but if Tyrod plays, I would 703 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: be intrigued in fantasy. In just that second half off 704 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 4: of the bench, he scored eleven Fantasy points before Hail 705 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 4: Mary interception that I don't really count as the clock 706 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: head zero's and they get the Rams this next week. 707 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 4: Derek Carr, who just talked about tag them for twenty 708 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 4: five Fantasy points. They've allowed eighteen per game over the 709 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 4: last five weeks. Eighteen points. Heck, even sixteen points would 710 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: be good enough as a two QB stream. So I 711 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: like either guy, maybe Tyrod a bit more. 712 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: They're very curious to see who Brian Daboles settles on 713 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: as their starting quarterback. Meanwhile, over in Minnesota, it looks 714 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: like it's all over for Alexander Madison, which does that 715 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: mean that ty Chandler is the Aaron Burr who has 716 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: assassinated Madison's chances to be the lead running back. And 717 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: more importantly, would if you pick up ty Chandler, would 718 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: you start him this week? 719 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: I would pick up ty Chandler. I would start him 720 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: this week. I hope he's not assassinating anybody except for 721 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 4: your fantasy opponents. Listen, this past Sunday, he played sixty 722 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 4: five percent of the snaps. Madison played four snaps in total, 723 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 4: so it does seem like he has taken full control 724 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: of this backfield. The reports we heard from the coaching 725 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 4: staff also back that up heading into last week, and 726 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: if you look at the number as a fantasy output 727 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: was not great for Chandler last week, just seven point 728 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 4: seven fantasy points, and almost all of those came on 729 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 4: a fortunate touchdown run early on. But honestly, I'm not 730 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: shocked by that stat line. Minnesota expected Lee trailed for 731 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: the entire game against the Lions and their very good 732 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 4: run defense. New Year's Eve, they get the Packers, they 733 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 4: are favored at home, and green Bay has allowed the 734 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: third most rushing yards in the league this season. Back 735 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 4: in Week fifteen, Ty Chandler tagged the Bengals for twenty 736 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 4: five fantasy points. I think he has that kind of upside, 737 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: but I'm not projecting it. You also don't need it 738 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 4: if you get half that number and be okay in 739 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 4: your RB two or flex spot. So I think he's 740 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 4: definitely startable and possibly league winnable this week. 741 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: Completely agree with you on Chandler. 742 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: There. 743 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: We spoke about Clyde Edwards Hilaire a bit at the 744 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: top of the show, but speaking of league winning potential, 745 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: given the matchup and potentially the opportunity we go full 746 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: circle and finally get league winning. 747 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 4: Ch Yeah, this is probably the number one league winner 748 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: on the entire waiver wire this week. Every year there's 749 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 4: one of these running backs who comes up nearly out 750 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 4: of nowhere in wins you a fantasy championship. It looks 751 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 4: very probable that could be Ceh this week. Jerreck McKinnon 752 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 4: was placed on IR Last week, Isaiah Pacheco took a 753 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 4: very unfortunate knee to the head, suffered a concussion on Monday, 754 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 4: pending his status and I'm expecting him, as no doctor 755 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 4: by any means, to miss Week seventeen. Given the shorter 756 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 4: week this Chiefs backfield will be entirely Cech's against the Bengals. 757 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: Cincinnati has allowed seventeen plus fantasy points to the lead 758 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 4: back in four of their last seven games, and two 759 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 4: of the other three were against the Steelers, where they 760 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 4: allowed twenty four points per game to the duo of 761 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: Nause and Jalen Warren. So, in other words, they can 762 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 4: be beaten on the ground. The one time we've seen 763 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 4: Cech get fifteen plus touches so far this season was 764 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 4: in Week fifteen against New England, and he had one 765 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 4: hundred and one yards and twenty fantasy points in that game. 766 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 4: If Pacheco is out, I think Cech is an RB one, 767 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 4: could be the RB one and will absolutely win Fantasy 768 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 4: championships if you pick him up. 769 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: Another guy who low key has helped people along throughout 770 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs has been DeMarcus Robinson. I mean, we talk 771 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: about Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua. Robinson with a touchdown 772 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: in four straight games, and I know on some level 773 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: it maybe feels like chasing the touchdowns, but Matt, he's 774 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: he's getting targets, he's getting snaps. This has become He's 775 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: become legitimately the third wide receiver in Los Angeles. 776 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 4: I completely agree, and it's also also worth noting sometimes 777 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 4: you get touchdowns in flukey ways, like big downfield plays. 778 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 4: Other times you get touchdowns because you're being heavily targeted 779 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 4: in the red zone and end zone, and that's what 780 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 4: we're seeing from Robinson. I'm honestly baffled how he is 781 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 4: this available nearly one hundred percent available in NFL dot 782 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 4: com leaves. It's a touchdown and thirteen plus fantasy points 783 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 4: in four straight games this past week with two two 784 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 4: back he logs season highs and catches and yards. And 785 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 4: the main thing is Matthew Stafford and the Rams are 786 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 4: just so hot right now, which means there is room 787 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 4: for Robinson even with Cooper Cup and Poka Nakua both 788 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 4: getting theirs. I'm not worried about the return of TWU two. 789 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 4: He's simply been too effective and I think has cemented 790 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 4: that number three role, like you said, And if you 791 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 4: want a roadmap on the fantasy potential for this game 792 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 4: against the Giants, look back to the Cowboys in Week 793 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 4: ten when Ceedee Lamb, Brandon Coats, and Michael Gallup each 794 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 4: had fifteen plus fantasy points and combined for eighty seven. 795 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 4: That's the kind of upside you have against this team 796 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 4: when you have talented receivers the Rams do. I think 797 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 4: you can flex Robinson and I might even be doing 798 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 4: it myself in a championship or two. 799 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Rams on a short week last week, 800 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: I bet a lot of people did what I did 801 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: and unfortunately dropped DeMarcus Robinson with two two back. Go 802 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 2: right that wrong and grab him. Now, speaking of that 803 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 2: Thursday night game, Rashisha, he'd went boom in it. 804 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: We know he is as. 805 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: Boom or bust as they come, but this matchup you 806 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: might have another chance to go boom again this week. 807 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 808 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 4: If you're heavily favored in your fantasy championships, I think 809 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: Shaheed is not the guy I'd rather go with, maybe 810 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 4: a guy like Robinson or a few of the other 811 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 4: guys in the column. But if you're an underdog or 812 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 4: you need some upside, I think he's an excellent play. 813 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 4: He has scored a touchdown four times this season and 814 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: topped eighteen fantasy points in all four of those games, 815 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 4: that included last week against the Rams, and as I 816 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 4: mentioned with Derek Carr earlier, the Bucks have allowed the 817 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 4: most passing yards in the NFL this season, They've allowed 818 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 4: the fourth most fantasy points to wide receivers as a result, 819 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 4: and most importantly, they've allowed forty nine receipts of twenty 820 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 4: plus yards, which is the most in the league. If 821 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 4: there's going to be a week you bet on a 822 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 4: big play and hopefully a score from Shaheed, I think 823 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 4: this is it. It's not going to feel safe streaming 824 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 4: him in your fantasy championship because it's not, but it 825 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 4: would be very rewarding if it hits all rights. 826 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about a couple of defenses real quick. You 827 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 1: mentioned the rotating door potentially a quarterback for the Giants, 828 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: the Rams defense streaming option maybe to take advantage of 829 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: that this week. 830 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've scored double digit fantasy points just once all season, 831 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 4: and it was way back in Week six against the Cardinals. 832 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 4: So maybe the question is what am I doing here? 833 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 4: What I'm doing here is sacking the Giants quarterback, because 834 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 4: holy mackerel, is that easy to do. Whether it's Tyron 835 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 4: or Tommy DeVito. I think Aaron Donald and company are 836 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 4: going to get some sacks. This offensive line has given 837 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 4: up seventy seven this season. Which is not only the 838 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 4: most in the league, it's the most in the league 839 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 4: by sixteen sacks over number two. I know I said 840 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 4: you can stream Taylor against this team earlier, but that's 841 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 4: primarily because sacks don't count against fantasy points. I think 842 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 4: that the Broncos or I think the Tyrod or whoever 843 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 4: the quarterback is, can turn in a decent fantasy day 844 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 4: regardless of what else happens, and the Rams will still 845 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 4: be startable because of those sacks and have double digit upside. 846 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: I completely agree with you on the Rams defense this week. 847 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: But the Broncos. They went out this past week disappointed 848 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 2: a little bit against the Patriots, but they get a 849 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: chance to make it up against the Chargers, who last 850 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: week realized how to hold onto the football but didn't 851 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 2: score a whole lot of points. 852 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: I do not. 853 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure, Florio, that I am the most disappointed 854 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 4: person in the Broncos DST in the entirety of the 855 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 4: planet Earth, because I started them everywhere and they helped 856 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 4: the Patriots beat the Broncos, and now my draft picks 857 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 4: for the Patriots are ruined. It was horrific. However, their 858 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 4: offense did them absolutely no favors in that game. It 859 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 4: was an ugly, ugly performance all around. I think better 860 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 4: days are ahead against the Chargers team that is not 861 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 4: good on either side of the ball. I think at 862 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 4: home in a must win divisional game for Denver against 863 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 4: East and Stick, we see the ship get righted. They 864 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 4: are currently five and a half point favorites and the 865 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 4: Chargers are projected for around seventeen points. That's all good 866 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 4: stuff for fantasy DSTs. They hung fourteen fantasy points on 867 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 4: them in their first meeting a few weeks ago, which 868 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 4: was the game Herbert left and Stick came in. So 869 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 4: I think we get another something close to that. Maybe 870 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 4: not exactly fourteen, but double digits are in the cards 871 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 4: for the Broncos. 872 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: That's right, all right. So we're gonna ride with the 873 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: Broncos this weekend, potentially as a streaming option for your 874 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: defense in fantasy. Check out the entire Waiverwire column NFL 875 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: dot com slash Waiver Wire. Checkout Matt on Twitter at 876 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: matt Ocatta Matt, thank you sir. All right, sir, there 877 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: goes Matt o'cott to be sure to go check him out. 878 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: Be sure to read his work as well. He's been 879 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: great all year long. We appreciate him hopping on this 880 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: show in the meantime. That is it. We are done. 881 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: We appreciate at you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy 882 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: Football Show. Tomorrow, we're previewing the first chunk of the 883 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: week seventeen slate of games. You know the drill. Tell 884 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: two friends to tell two friends rate review, and remember, 885 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: don't blame the holidays. You were fat in August. Be 886 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: safe to take care of yourselves. We'll talk to you 887 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: again real soon.