1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Thursday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: all across the country. Appreciate you being with us and 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: got a lot to talk about here. We are going 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: to dive into the latest on the FBI investigation or 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: was there even investigation into the Biden criminal bribery scheme. 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: I think that's something that deserves a whole lot more 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: attention than godd and will also be talking to you 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: about where things stand in the primary race. You may 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: have heard Clay had a little interview yesterday with a 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: former vice president that is now all over I don't know, 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: CBS News, Fox News, Politico, all over the place. Clay 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: basically asking if he ordered the code red or in 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: this case, will you order a pardon? The answer was 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: no answer. Clay was not accepting that as an answer, 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of people still listening to that one 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: and seeing what some of the big dynamics are. We will, Clay, 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: We'll go back to it. Some folks can hear it 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: if you missed it yesterday. We have that all queued 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: up for later on in the program to discuss. Also 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: look at the latest arguments around the Trump indictment. Obviously, Clay, 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: did you see you know Bill Barr was on the 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: what is the sixth? The Bret Behar six pm show 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: on Fox News and laid out his laid out his rationale. 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Here we'll get into some of this. Basically what we've 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: been saying I think is accurate, which is that the 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: case here that the primary defense is one actually of 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: politics and not of law, even though this is a 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: criminal indictment. Because if you if you accept that everything 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: is legitimate from the DJ side and that this isn't 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: a targeted political hit, obstruction starts to become challenging. We'll 33 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: get we'll get into this a little bit later, but effectively, 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: other presidents where democrats, they get the political pass on 35 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: process crimes, which is all we're talking about here early 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: are process crimes. We'll discuss some of that analysis later. Obviously, 37 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: Trump not getting a pass at all. And one thing 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: to keep in mind here is I can we just 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: do a check in on this one, Claid, I do 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: check its all the time. Are they going to bring 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 2: January sixth related charge against him? I think we will. 42 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: And the reason why I think they will, Buck is 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna get nervous really quickly. Given the 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: judge that they have in Miami and the jury pool, 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: which let's just say is fifty to fifty ish, they 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: can now bring charges for January sixth with a ninety 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: five percent Democrat jury in DC. And it almost feels 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: like the safety net to me for being able to 49 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: get federal charges. 50 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 2: I remember. So this reminds me a little bit of 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: because you have all these different criminal think about this, 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: how many criminal charges are they going to bring? How 53 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: many different trials are they going to have Trump going 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: through in an election year. I think it makes the 55 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: case for this being political not only stronger, but it 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: is obvious. The case that this is politicized is ironclad. 57 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: It reminds me. I had a friend who worked in 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: college admissions many years ago, and he said, one of 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: the things I always look for is if you have 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: to have a super thick file of five additional letters 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: of recommendation that nobody wants, and you know, ten videos 62 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: of yourself doing things that you think, it's just if 63 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: the goods are there. The goods are there, you don't 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: need to inundate. You don't need to anyway, and that's 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: what they're doing. This is the count of countless counts 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: against Trump. But put that aside for a second. We'll 67 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: come back to this all a little bit later. I 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: thought this was really interesting. I would love to see more. 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: And that's why a total credit for Sean getting Gavin 70 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Newsom to sit down with him. We need more of this. 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: We need more people who disagree who have platforms in audience. 72 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: So you and I are not going to put someone 73 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: with you know, fifty Twitter followers who hates us on 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: the air to say crazy things, but people that have 75 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: roughly equivalent audience and and sway for their side or 76 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: or you know, some degree of gravitas for their side 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: of the political equation to have the exchange and we 78 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: can see what do they really think about this? I mean, 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: I think that Gavin Newsom, well, you liked, you liked 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: Gavin personally, you think he's slick, which, okay, all right, 81 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: appointed me how much I liked him. Buck. 82 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: I wanted to be like, I hate this guy, but 83 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: I was like, I wouldn't mind having a beer with 84 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, and that that upsets me. I mean honestly, 85 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: but I thought he came off really well and then 86 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 3: handed the interview I did. 87 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: I mean, he just reminds me of like the guy 88 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: that you didn't want to trust your girlfriend around and 89 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: at the college partner. I'm not saying I'd want to 90 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: bring my wife for beers with him. Uh, you know, 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: he's just something real with them, really smiley and underhanded 92 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: about Gavin Newsom. But anyway, but he basically took the 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: perspective that some of this stuff that's gone on in 94 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: his state is indefensible. He kept saying I own that, 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: I own that, which is interesting because what does that 96 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: really mean, although it does work as a deflection, But 97 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: he was taking shots at Florida Governor Rob DeSantis of Florida. 98 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: There's there are really two things about DeSantis right now 99 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: that are simultaneously happening. There's the twenty twenty four presidential 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: nomination contest, and he's in the very clearly the number 101 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: two slot right now in all the polls. There really 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: only are two candidates currently who have serious numbers. Trump 103 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: way out front DeSantis number two. We all know that. Okay, 104 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: that's a part of what's going on, and we'll talk 105 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: more about that in the months ahead. But there's also 106 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: the red state blue state dynamic, which plays into the 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election and is also for a lot 108 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: of people, I think where they see policy and result, 109 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: What did we decide? What has happened? How has California 110 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: acted during COVID and during BLM and all the rest, 111 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: and how to Florida govern DeSantis calling out Yeah ivin 112 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: Newsom here after the interview that Sean did with Newsom. 113 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: I want you to hear what he says. I mean, 114 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: he's ready for it, He's ready to rumble, play the clip. 115 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: He's got huge problems in his state. I mean, like 116 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: huge problems in his state. We all know that. I mean, 117 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: you see it in San Francisco, you see it in 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: La you see it in the people fleeing. California from 119 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: its inception, gained population every single year until he became governor. 120 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: And yet with all those problems, he has a real 121 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: serious fixation on the state of Florida. I mean, I 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: think it's just bizarre that. 123 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: He does that. 124 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: What I would tell him is, you know what, stop 125 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: pussy footing around. Are you gonna Are you gonna throw 126 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: your hat in the ring and challenge Joe? Are you 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: gonna get in and do it, or are you just 128 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 4: gonna sit on the sidelines and chirp Clay. 129 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he's first of all, he's basically saying that 130 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom has Florida envy. Yeah, and that's a part 131 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: of it. And he's also saying, if you're such a 132 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: big man, mister man of California, why don't you actually 133 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: just say I'm the guy, old man Biden. We all 134 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: know what has to step aside. I think we need 135 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: to hear more of this. 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: Props for use of the word pussy footing, which we 137 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: all know. You know, we all know what the implication 138 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: of the use of the word pussyfooting is. It ain't 139 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: the second word that people are going to focus on, 140 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: all right, So that is a phenomenal word to use 141 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: to call out Gavin Newsom. But buck this, to me, 142 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: raises the question. I think DeSantis raised it because he's 143 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: talking about the Democrat Party. 144 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: We had Robert F. 145 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 3: Kennedy on this show. I saw where I believe Sean 146 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: had Mary Anne Williamson on who is the other Democrat 147 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: that's running against Joe Biden. This is a story. I 148 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: believe it was in Politico this morning that I was reading. 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: You know, getting ready for the show. They are now 150 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: saying that Biden, because of his commitment to South Carolina 151 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: being the first primary, may skip Iowa and New Hampshire 152 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: may not even campaign there. If you hear that, that 153 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: feels to me like a very big error strategically. Why 154 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: wouldn't Gavin Newsom step into this race? I feel like 155 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: Democrats collectively, now, maybe not the DNC and maybe not 156 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: the grand poobas of the party, but I feel like 157 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: Democrats as a collective group are begging for someone to 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: challenge Joe Biden. I think DeSantis. I mean sorry, I 159 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: think Newsom really, if he won Iowa and he won 160 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: New Hampshire, Fuck, I think he could get the momentum 161 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: to potentially beat I know you think this is crazy. 162 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: I think he could potentially beat Biden in the primary. 163 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: I don't think you could be Biden the primary, but 164 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: I think anything, you know, by the same tone that 165 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: I feel like anything is possible. So you know, who 166 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: really knows? Because but here's what I think the plan 167 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: is for the Democrats. We keep seeing all the polls 168 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: and what's the latest on you know, Biden's tooled for 169 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: the job, isn't like forty percent of Democrats want someone 170 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: else or something and seventy percent. 171 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: I think it's over half of Democrats want somebody else, 172 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: to want somebody And when they poll, that's Democrats, that's 173 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: not the independence or Republicans. 174 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: And as a reminder, Trump support when he was president 175 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: within the rope we're talking about now, within the party, 176 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: within the faithful. I mean it was you know, it 177 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: was Kim Jong ill level. It was like it was obviously, yeah, 178 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: that support is fake because he's a dictator. But you 179 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: guys get what I'm saying. I mean, it's like the 180 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: numbers were through the roof. It was like ninety eight 181 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: ninety nine percent level support within the party. And and 182 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: Joe Biden obviously doesn't have that here. Here's what I 183 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: think is going on. I think that the plan here 184 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: and it's maybe it's even implicit, but everybody knows it. 185 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: If you and I is this kind of fun if 186 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: you and I were Democrats strategist, just think about that. Yeah, 187 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: the way, just take a moment, Clay. We get like 188 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: book deals that are way beyond we're ever going to 189 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: sell just because you know, people like us, because the 190 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: machine we get invited, We get invited on all these 191 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: like you know, the like CBS morning shows, and everyone's like, hey, man, 192 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: like you're so great, You're so smart. You know, oh man, Hollywood, 193 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: Hollywood people would be talking to it. Anyway. I'm just kidding. 194 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: I would never want to do such a thing. But 195 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: if we were sitting there and we were Democrats, we 196 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: were strategizing this. I think the way that they can 197 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: they can rationalize Biden two point zero or the second 198 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: Biden term, is it's just about pushing him across the 199 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: finish line as the incumbent against let's say Trump, because 200 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: it looks like that's what's going to happen. And then 201 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: you have Kamala Harris. I think she takes over summer 202 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty what is it, summer of twenty twenty five. Yeah, don't. 203 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't think Joe Biden. Let you don't think that 204 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: he's Joe Biden last year. That's what I'm saying. I 205 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: think he's so I think really he's just now considered 206 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: by Democrats the political vessel to bring about look at narrative, 207 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: first black female president in American history, and that is 208 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: what this is really all about for Democrats. That's how Okay, 209 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: So if you believe that, and I don't think that's 210 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: a crazy idea at all. Right, if Biden wins reelection, 211 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: I think Nicky Haley said in our show this week, 212 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: and we've said it, I think he's a very good chance. 213 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: He's Nicky Haley, and I see this exactly the same 214 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: that it's really about Kamala Harris. It's really not about 215 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. 216 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So if you are hearing that and you are 217 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, let's play the Democrat strategist game here, because 218 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: I think this is what's partly motivating Gavin Newsom to 219 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: sit down with Hannity. And by the way, have we 220 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: reached out Ali and production crew? Have we invited Gavin 221 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: Newsom on this program? I don't know that he would 222 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: come on, but let's it. Have we officially invited him? 223 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: Not yet, but we will, we will, We should, right 224 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 3: But Okay, so if he comes on this program, I 225 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: think that would tell us a lot too. But the 226 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: fact that he's done Hannity already is a big deal. 227 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: When we come back, Buck come out back in this 228 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: next break. I just want everybody to think about this. 229 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: If you are Gavin Newsom and you see what may 230 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: well happen, which is basically, the baton gets passed to 231 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris if she is running as the incumbent, you 232 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: have no chance to be the nominee in twenty eight, 233 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: right and if somehow she won, you would have no 234 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: chance to be the nominee in thirty two, and then 235 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: by thirty six, like you're seventy some odd years old. 236 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: The window if Gavin Newsom wants to be president, in 237 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: my opinion, is right now before the baton can get 238 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: passed to Kamala Harris. I'll explain that a little bit 239 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: more when we come back, but I just want all 240 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: of you thinking about this. 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So we're talking about Joe Biden and 272 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: how he's unable to do the job, and we got 273 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: a clip. I just want to play for you geographically, Buck. 274 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: I heard this earlier today, and I'm not a great 275 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: geography I'm just full disclosure, I'm not a great geography guy. 276 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: Like I would never have won geography bees back in 277 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: the day. So when I heard this, it sounded so 278 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: incomprehensibly impossible to me. But I wasn't one hundred percent 279 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: sure because I'm not great at geography, but you're way 280 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: better at geography than me, and you mean this and 281 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: also thought of it. 282 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I'm probably it's fair 283 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: to say I'm freakishly good at at geography and ping 284 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: pong out of nowhere for no apparent reasons. So so 285 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: geography is one of my strong suits. And I used 286 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: to my family though, my two brothers, who are very 287 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: very smart as well. I never did this with my sister, 288 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: she's brilliant, she's a lawyer. But my two brothers, we 289 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: were younger, we had this globe and it would you 290 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: know about that, and you would call out the name 291 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: of anything on the globe, and there were different and 292 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: you'd have to point at it with a little like 293 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: a sort of a slice pointer almost yeah, yeah, And 294 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: it was who could get more, who could get more 295 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: places of the globe, And you go to the elite level, 296 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: and it's like it is, you know, capital of Botswana, 297 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: it is like second biggest city, Venezuela. 298 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: Is like this buck like we have a big map 299 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: of the world, and like he knows it all. And meanwhile, 300 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm just like hoping that I can find Australia on 301 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: the map, right, Like I'm good in the United States, 302 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: but when I get outside of the United States, I 303 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: fall apart in a hurry. 304 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: So when I heard this from Biden, like. 305 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit I'm I'm a little bit geography 306 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: geographically challenged. So I didn't want to share it because 307 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: I was like, this sounds crazy to me, but I'm 308 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: not great on the Indian Ocean and everything else. But 309 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: I did think this is a crazy idea. I don't 310 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: even know what Biden's trying to say here. Listen to 311 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: the bridge. It's a bridge, right, or a railroad or 312 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: whatever the heck it is that Biden says we're gonna build, 313 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: but we're. 314 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: Going to end and We're gonna help. 315 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific 316 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: all the way across in the ocean. 317 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: We have plans to build in Angola one of the 318 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: largest solar plants in the world. 319 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: I can go on, but I'm on, I'm going off script. 320 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: I'm can get in trouble. 321 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: How is this possible, buck to build from the Pacific 322 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: a railroad? So I guess I guess he's saying that 323 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: we would assist all of the various Asian countries in 324 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: the creation of this railroad for something I don't honestly 325 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: we would. The railroad have to be that he's talking 326 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: about thousands of miles. It would have to be very, 327 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: very big. And let me see, I'm looking this up 328 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: right now. He a railroad from the Pacific across the 329 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: Indian Ocean. And yeah, people said. 330 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: The crazy that For a moment, you think to yourself, 331 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: am I completely wrong? 332 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 2: One hundred percent? That's right? Sitting here, I'm like, am 333 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: I Am I missing something? And also you know, I've 334 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: been on high speed trains, for example in China. They're 335 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: very good at building these things on their own. Like, 336 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: what are we going to do? We've got planned to 337 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: build a train from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean. 338 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: It depends on where you would be in the Pacific Ocean, 339 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: but it's a long way. That's a big project here. 340 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like maybe maybe fix some 341 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: of the potholes on I ninety five first. That's just 342 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: my thought. 343 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 3: The bridge that just collapsed in Philadelphia would be one 344 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: of my targets, maybe more than an Indian Ocean bridge. 345 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: I'm just tossing it out there. That's where I'm coming 346 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: from on this. All right, Look, fellow gun owners, you 347 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: know that Ammo super expensive. Like a lot of other things, 348 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: price has just been going up in recent years. 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This may be just another great day. 374 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: Otherwise fantastic week. 375 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: So Enjoy called me the dumbest person to ever have 376 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 3: a radio show. I would, I would, I would have 377 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: to about But first of all, I hope it would 378 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: be an entree because you and I have talked about 379 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: for some time that we would like to go on 380 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: the View like just because I think they have the 381 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: dumbest audience and the dumbest show in media. I would 382 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: feel a little bit like, you know that. I bet 383 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 3: you've seen the gift of like Vince McMahon when he 384 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: walks in like struts into the arena and everybody's like 385 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: booing and throwing stuff at him. I just I think 386 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: that would probably be the best anti audience to ever 387 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: walk in on. And I just think it would be incredible, 388 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: incredible television. I don't know how many of you remember this, 389 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: but there was a very very well known moment on 390 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: the Bill Maher Show where the late Christopher Hitch that 391 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 3: audience of of libs just you know, tackling and you know, 392 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: hissing and booing at him, and he finally just says, 393 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: your audience is a bunch of like frivolous morons and 394 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: he sticks his middle finger up at all. 395 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: Of That's amazing, though, Yeah, yeah, so maybe we could 396 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: find that one and throw that one off on Clay 397 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: and Block. That was quite a moment. Although it was there, 398 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: you would have to blur, I guess the the you know, 399 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: the finger that he chose to use, all right, something 400 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: else though, that's uh we'll see if we obviously we 401 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: will have our team track this down. We just got 402 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: a tip, so it is unverified, but we got a 403 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: tip that the view might have made mention of the 404 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: Pence interview. Uh. And we're gonna get back to that 405 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: next hour. Be a perfect time play to get into it, 406 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: because we've got we're gonna play some of that audio 407 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: again and talk about it. But there's something going on 408 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: right now that's really on on a completely on a 409 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: serious level, that's really troubling. And it's what happens now 410 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: that we've just seen open political targeting of people with 411 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: the justice where it's I don't like you, I'm going 412 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: to prosecute you, right and in the past, I'm not 413 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: going to tell like this has not happened with different presidents, 414 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: But note something, Clay, you have You've had Democrats time 415 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: and again get away with doing things that were illegal, 416 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 2: whether it was Hillary or Bill. Both Hillary and Bill 417 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: clearly broke the law one hundred percent, right, no question 418 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: about it. Broke the law and they got away with it, right, 419 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: they got away with it. Well, something else that we 420 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: see here, I like to remind everybody of this. There's 421 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: been building it's been over a decade now going after 422 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: Republicans with frivolous legal attacks undermining them. I've said it before, 423 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: Chris Christy, Bridgegate, Scott Walker, Scott Perry, Bob McDonald, Senator 424 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: Ted Stevens. Look at all these different cases. This is 425 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: what Democrats do. It's law fair and Trump is the 426 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: pinnacle of this. Right. Well, if you want to know 427 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: if this is going to continue on Gavin Newsome this 428 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: week we're talking about it. Yeah, Buddy Clay, you know, 429 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: you guys might be having some chardonnay at French laundry 430 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: talking about you know, just all the greatness of what 431 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: the reaction be. 432 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 3: If one day you just went on Instagram and it's 433 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: just me and Gavin Newsom, you know, sharing a I 434 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: would not I'd try try to drink beer instead of wine, 435 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: but like the comments on that picture would be amazing. Right, 436 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: If I just one day you just got on Instagram 437 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: and it's just me and Gavin Newsom having a beer. 438 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: I might burst into flames, like to like a Paccino 439 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: and the Devil's Advocate, you know, where he's just just 440 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: like a he freaks out. So so please don't do that. 441 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: But Gavin Newso we would have him on the show 442 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: as long as, you know, we'd have to set some 443 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: ground rules because the problem with radio in particular, because 444 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: people always say, why don't you have libs on argue 445 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: with him? If you talk over each other, you got nothing. 446 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 2: No one can hear anything on TV, there's at least 447 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: the visual guide to when people are coming in and out. 448 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: It's you know, it just turns into cacaphony on radio. 449 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: So if you do the talkover thing, it doesn't work 450 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: for anybody. And that's why it's really hard to have 451 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: a radio debate unless people are very clear on timing anyway. 452 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, though on a local Los Angeles station, has 453 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: said he this is up on media. I wanted to 454 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: double down on his on his vow to pursue accountability 455 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: for DeSantis flying migrants to Democrat controlled durist jurisdictions. He said, 456 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: quote this is Newsome. I met with a sheriff that 457 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: wants to press charges with him just yesterday from Texas 458 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: who was disgusted by what Ron DeSantis did coming into 459 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 2: his jurisdiction under false pretense, deceiving kids not just adults, 460 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: by sending them on an airplane to an island, Martha's vineyard? 461 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: Could we just get back? They're already thinking, He's already 462 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: trying to figure out, how can I try to brand 463 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: DeSantis a criminal for I mean for a free I'd 464 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: probably we'd probably pay a thousand dollars is for a 465 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: coach middle seat to get the Martha's vineyard right now, buddy, 466 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: it's very expensive. It's like paradise in the summer, and 467 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: they want to make this criminal. 468 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: This is what the precedent is, and this cycles back 469 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: around again. 470 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: I think it's important to. 471 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: Try to get in people's heads because, look, Joe Biden 472 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: is an idiot. 473 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: We just played you that clip. 474 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any grand strategic design in Joe 475 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: Biden's actions. Gavin Newsom is very smart, Okay, he's conniving, 476 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: he's wiley. Why is he sitting down with and smart 477 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: for a Democrat? 478 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: All right? 479 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: Why is he sitting down? Why is he sitting down 480 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: with Sean Hannity? What's his game plan? Why is he 481 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: And this is worth thinking about too, why is he 482 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: not criticizing Trump at all and going after DeSantis instead? 483 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: This is because I don't believe, I don't think right 484 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: he knows. We have to remember this, everybody. We're in 485 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: a We're in a unique place right now where the 486 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: two republic i mean sorry, the two presidential top contenders, 487 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: the sitting president and the number one guy in the 488 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: polls can only serve one more term. Yep, normally it 489 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: would be eight years. Now who's eating? Is everyone going 490 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: to even remember, you know, anything going on in these 491 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: states in eight years? Maybe? But eight years is an 492 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: eternity in politics. Four years, well, it's really two years 493 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: because you get to the mid terms of the next 494 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: presidency wherever it is, and all of a sudden, we're 495 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: thinking about who's going to be president for the next 496 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: So the cycle gets very condensed, very quickly. So we're 497 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: seeing in the background. It's really interesting, right the possibility 498 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: of a of a shadow secondary Newsome DeSantis twenty twenty 499 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: eight campaign playing out at some level. And now, look, 500 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: DeSantis still wants to be the nominee now, and he's 501 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: he's getting you know, he's getting the second best numbers, 502 00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: et cetera. But this notion of always going to I'm 503 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: going to prosecute you, this is gonna get worse until 504 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: we do something about it. And I think mutually assured 505 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: legal destruction is probably the only way, which is why 506 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: I remember I asked Pans yesterday. This didn't get as 507 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 2: much of the attad shit. I said, should there be 508 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: a special counsel with Biden? He said there should be 509 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: a special counsel right now. That doesn't really help because 510 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Biden's not going to appoint a special counsel to throw 511 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: him in prison. I want to know, will the next 512 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: Republican president appoint a special counsel with the a clear 513 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, if there is lawbreaking by Biden's they face 514 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: the charges, no special treatment. That's what I want to know. 515 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: And this is even sort of percolating out Clay. They 516 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: had someone ask Karene Jean Pierre at the White House, 517 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: so Biden arrested? Had Trump arrested? Right? Like I mean, 518 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: people are having because you brought this up. The special 519 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: Council doesn't act autonomously. It goes through Merrick Garland. And 520 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: who does Merrick Garland work for Joe Biden. Let's play 521 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: clip this is eighteen Karine Jean. 522 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 5: Pierre take categorically that President Biden was not involved or 523 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 5: influenced at all any of the decisions into indict in 524 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 5: the President. 525 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: Man at all. 526 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 5: He was not involved. This is the President has been 527 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 5: very very clear the Department of Justice is independent. He 528 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 5: wants to restore the independence of the Department of Justice. 529 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: And that's what you've seen. That is why we have 530 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: been very very consistent when it comes to criminal cases. 531 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 5: We just do not comment. 532 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: This is nothing there. This may be the first lie 533 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: that the Bidens have told. 534 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: Right, So I want to hammer that home for people 535 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: out there because I don't think it's gotten discussed enough. 536 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: Jack Smith, the Independent Council does not have the authority 537 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: to bring charges against Donald Trump without Merrick Garland agreeing 538 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: that his case has merit and giving effectively a sign off. 539 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: Now they've tried to trot Jack Smith out because they've 540 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: tried to hide this, right, Merrick Garland is basically not spoken. 541 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: They've tried to pretend that this is not a merit 542 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 3: Garland decision. It is and all of you need to 543 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: understand that. And if you believe that the Attorney General 544 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: of the United States decided to indict the leading political 545 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: opposition figure of the current president of the United States, 546 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 3: that is Joe Biden's biggest adversary without consulting with the 547 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 3: White House, then you are the most naive imbecile on 548 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 3: the planet. So when she is coming out buck and saying, oh, 549 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: the Justice Department's in completely independent, that is a lie. 550 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: That is an unmitigated lie that is designed to be 551 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: told to people who are too dumb to be willing 552 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: to call them on it. Supermarket cashier was at work 553 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: the other morning when she got an automated text message 554 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: from her bank. 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Buck. 580 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: You sent me this link and I was laughing at 581 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: it because it is absolutely fantastic. This is from the 582 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: This is also do we have audio on this? I've 583 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: made fun of this Bill de Blasio. For those of 584 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 3: you out there who had the misfortune of living through 585 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: his tenure as mayor in New York City, such as yourself, Buck, 586 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: I think one of the most awkward and ridiculous stories 587 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: that any politician has bound himself involved in is Bill 588 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: Deblasio went for one of these Groundhog Day like second 589 00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: Phil stuff. 590 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I guess they had a groundhog in 591 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: New York City. That's at Stotton Island. They have their 592 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: own Groundhog Day event in Staten Island, which is a 593 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: stronghold on w r NYC Staten Island of our New 594 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: York listeners. We love the island. 595 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: He dropped the groundhog at the Groundhog Day celebration. It's 596 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: not me, no, you get up and the ground died. 597 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm so sad. This is like the kid who takes 598 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: the class buddy home for the weekend and lets it 599 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: run out into the street or something like. You just 600 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: can't do this, man, you can't kill the groundhog. 601 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: So I guess he's commenting on the fact that he 602 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: dropped the groundhog. And I mean, what a metaphor for 603 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: his entire mayoral term. But he showed up, you know, 604 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: to like hold the groundhog up for those of you 605 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: who remember like the you know movie Groundhog Day. But 606 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: this happens in many different communities. I think I think 607 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: they have in Georgia a groundhog named or Regard Lee. 608 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: Isn't this true? Like literally they named him after two 609 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: Confederate generals. And they bring out Beauregard Lee somewhere in Georgia. 610 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: And so anyway, they do this all over the place. 611 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: But the Staten Island groundhog died because Deblasio dropped him. 612 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: And now there's quotes de Blasio has has come back 613 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: out talking about this. 614 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: There was an interview in New York Magazine with Deblasio, 615 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: who was the worst mayor in living memory in New 616 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: York City and and did more to destroy the greatness 617 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: of New York than any other person I think could 618 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: have possibly accomplished in the same period of time, because 619 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: when he took New York over, it really was the 620 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: it was the absolute p I mean, the Bloomberg years. 621 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 2: He's a Democrat mayor Juliana Giuliani cleaned it up, and 622 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg said, let's keep it clean, Let's invite a lot 623 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: of businesses, a lot of international investment, and make this 624 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: the place that you know, is worth spending three times 625 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: as much to live here as basically anywhere else in 626 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: terms of overall life, you know, day to day expenses. 627 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: And then Deblasio came in, He's like, yeah, let's just 628 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: turn this too a comi hell hole, you know, thanks 629 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: thanks to Blasio. But yeah, he was asked by New 630 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: York Magazine if he had quote any regrets about dropping 631 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: the groundhog's in Staten Island in twenty fourteen, and he said, yeah, 632 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I'm like, don't make me hold a 633 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: bleeping groundhog. I mean, what the hell it's like, dude, everyone, 634 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: this is the club. This just shows you he has 635 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: so much contempt for most of this, you know, the 636 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: the shaking hands, kissing babies and apparently holding groundhogs component 637 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: of politics. But yeah, he killed he killed the special groundhog, 638 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: and it really is a metaphor for his entire time 639 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: in office, Like he was the groundhog was New York 640 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: City and Deblasio dropped it. And honestly, like this is 641 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: going to tie on. 642 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: We're going to discuss this awful Daniel pennycase later in 643 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: the show, but this is there. At some point is 644 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: going to have to be a Rudy Giuliani like figure 645 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: who hopefully doesn't drop groundhogs and kill them all over 646 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: the country. 647 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 2: Buck. 648 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: When I look at the numbers coming out of San Francisco, 649 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: when I look at LA when I look at what's 650 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: going on in Atlanta, when I look certainly at what's 651 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: going on in Chicago, Seattle, Portland. I mean all of 652 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: these cities which are pretty fabulous places, and many of 653 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: you listening right now have either lived there or lived around, 654 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: maybe you've gone on vacation. These places, they're going to 655 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 3: have to all get their own Rudy Giuliani like figure, 656 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: who is going to come in and basically just return 657 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: some sanity to these cities. And I don't know this 658 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: ties in what you were kind of talking about earlier. 659 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 3: I don't know that we have a high enough caliber 660 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: of political office seekers that we even have enough Rudy 661 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: giulianis to help fix these cities, because there's a lot 662 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: of mediocrities in politics right now that just are not 663 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 3: very excellent at anything, And a lot of these guys 664 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: couldn't do jobs other than be politicians. 665 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and people also, you often say about the luxury 666 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: of low crime eras that people think that crime is 667 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 2: not that big a deal. Yeah, it takes a while 668 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: for it to really settle into your consciousness. But once 669 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: you recognize that your area, your city, or neighborhood is unsafe, 670 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: changing that both perception and reality takes time. It's not 671 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: an overnight fix thing. So once. It's gotten so bad 672 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: that even like you see this in San Francisco, even 673 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: Democrats are like, wait a second, there's too much crime here. Yeah, 674 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 2: and it's going to take them years. If they did 675 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: all the right things, it would take them years to 676 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: clean it up. But Clay, I've got I've got some 677 00:35:54,680 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: news for you body. The view audio is in they 678 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: Shindar interview. It's not a particularly long clip, so I 679 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: don't know if Joy Behar wrote a sonnet to your 680 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: handsomeness and brilliance in this one but or mine. But 681 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: we are going to talk about the view and the 682 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: Mike Pence interview and why this caught so much fire 683 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 2: yesterday on the internet and else where. Everyone's talking about 684 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 2: this position because I think it does go to a 685 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: central issue here with regard to you either think the 686 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: DOJ is being weaponized or not. That to me is 687 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 2: like a top tier yep, what do you think about 688 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 2: this question? And we'll get into it in a second.