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Speaker 1: out there in Pittsburgh. So here's Aaron Rodgers now joining

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Speaker 1: the area as a remember of the Pittsburgh Steelers. We

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Speaker 1: continue to dissect the fallout of Rogers finally deciding to

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Our guy Nick Schuck gonna be

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Speaker 1: with us live. You want to tune in when Nick

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Speaker 1: Shuck is live, that is coming up to talk about

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Speaker 1: these maker breakers for twenty twenty five. Man Adam Rank.

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Speaker 1: You know it's a Friday at the Insiders when Adam

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Speaker 1: Fantasy season. He's got some buyer bewares. Yeah, Terry McLaurin,

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Speaker 1: little contract issue right now? Is that why? Rank says?

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Speaker 1: the Insiders, Judy Matiza, Ian Rappaport joining me, Mike Garrafolo.

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Speaker 1: We have got a full house of folks. We got

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Speaker 2: We're in June.

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Speaker 1: It's a Friday, but we still have plenty to talk about,

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Speaker 1: including what happened on Thursday, as first reported by The Insiders,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers deciding, okay, all right, look, I get it right.

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Speaker 1: Didn't work out with the Jets, But here you've got

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Speaker 1: the New York Post basically saying that he is Pittsburgh's problem.

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Speaker 1: Now that's not the way the Steelers see it. They

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Speaker 1: But they're going to get the full gamut here.

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Speaker 3: Ian.

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Speaker 1: You were not with us last night, so curious to

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Speaker 4: First of all, has not officially signed. He still has

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Speaker 4: Be it mandatory minicamp, take a physical sign.

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Speaker 3: Maybe me with reporters.

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Speaker 4: Certainly meet your new teammates, thirty a couple people, goodbye,

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Speaker 3: That ends up to be exactly what happened. As far

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Speaker 4: Financial still have no firm word on what the actual

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Speaker 3: Ten million dollars.

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Speaker 4: I actually expect the base to be somewhere around there,

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Speaker 4: And really, Judy, what this kind of does is put

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers in the same category as Tom Brady, same

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Speaker 4: category as Peyton Manning, same category as John Elway. Older

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they've taken pay cuts. For Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, this is a new deal with the Steelers, but

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Speaker 4: Plenty of high money players now, a high money receiver

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Speaker 3: That is a Rogers hope happens with the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rodgers on the pat back if the show said

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, his appearance there for mandatory Mini

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Speaker 5: Let's not make the mistake here. This is still the

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson over the next three years forty three point

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Speaker 7: Yeah, right now, they just want to see how they

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Speaker 9: Does it change anything for you, you know, having a first

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's saying this week, he's only missed one practice

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Speaker 3: They've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: It still makes sense to have a quarterback wait and learn,

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Speaker 3: The first three or four or five games.

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Speaker 5: This is going to be a test of the Giant's

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Speaker 5: Going to be a pressure filled decision campaign for the Giants.

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Speaker 4: Man, there is nothing better this time of year than

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Speaker 4: thank you for joining us. Let's start right there. Tell

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Speaker 10: Now, we don't need to rehash ian what Sam did

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Speaker 10: New offensive coordiator Clint Kubiak prefers a guy who can

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Speaker 10: But it was a calculated risk because there's no telling

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Speaker 10: We know Anthony Richardson was coming into a pivotal season

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Speaker 4: For sure, we appreciate it. Check out Nick's article NFL

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Speaker 5: That guy will be on the field. That is Ladd

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Speaker 5: McConkie entering his second season after a really impressive rookie season.

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Speaker 5: Let's welcome in our Jeffrey Chidia to talk more about

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Speaker 5: the Chargers and other things.

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Speaker 6: Jeffrey, at this time.

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Speaker 5: Last year, we had no idea the kind of impact

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Speaker 5: that Ladd McConkey was going to have on the Chargers

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Speaker 5: and the NFL. What are the expectations going into year two?

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Speaker 2: Well, they are high, Judy.

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Speaker 12: You know, they didn't take a receiver in the first

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Speaker 12: round this draft. That took Trey Harris in the second round,

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Speaker 12: so they have eye holds for him and brought in

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Speaker 12: Mike Williams. But yeah, this passing game really is going

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Speaker 12: to revolve around Lad mccackey taking that next step. And

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Speaker 12: he was great as a rookie with eighty two catches

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Speaker 12: eleven hundred yards. They talked this week about the importance

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Speaker 12: of taking care of his body, like he touched a

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Speaker 12: lot of shots.

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Speaker 2: Not the biggest guy in the world.

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Speaker 12: He's been watching tapes of guys like Julian Edelman to

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Speaker 12: see how to get down and avoid some of those

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Speaker 12: big hits guys landing on him. But he realizes he's

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Speaker 12: going to be a leader now, and he tried to

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Speaker 12: learn some things from Mike Williams. He's also tried to

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Speaker 12: amp up the leadership in the receiving room. His coaches

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Speaker 12: have talked about how he's tried to take some of

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Speaker 12: those younger receivers under his wing and help them grow

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Speaker 12: for an office that really needs the passing game to

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Speaker 12: take off this year.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's switch to the Denver Broncos in the

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Speaker 5: same division of You know, we're only two seasons removed

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Speaker 5: from Evan Ingram's one hundred and fourteen reception season with

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Speaker 5: the Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 6: It feels a little bit longer than that.

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Speaker 5: Now he is in Denver with Sean Payton, who really

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Speaker 5: likes to have a joker on his offense. What kind

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Speaker 5: of role are we looking for for Evan Ingram? How

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Speaker 5: can he elevate that offense?

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Speaker 12: Well, that joker roll is exactly where he thinks he's

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Speaker 12: going to fit in with the Denver Broncos, and he

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Speaker 12: said that was a big pitch from the Broncos when

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Speaker 12: they called him up as a free agent, the first

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Speaker 12: team actually to call him and bring him in. So

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Speaker 12: that meant a lot to him as far as building

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Speaker 12: a relationship and committing to them.

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Speaker 11: And you're right.

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Speaker 12: He had a tough season last season in Jacksonville, only

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Speaker 12: forty seven catches and only played in nine games with

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Speaker 12: a He had a hamstring injury and a labor and

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Speaker 12: tear that ended this season. But he's still caught forty

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Speaker 12: seven passes, which is you look at what the Broncos

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Speaker 12: did with four different tight ends last year. Those four

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Speaker 12: guys totaled fifty.

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Speaker 2: One receptions overall.

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Speaker 12: So he's still going to be a big part of

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Speaker 12: uplifting this offense. And he knows that he's going to

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Speaker 12: have opportunities with Sean Payton and Bownicks and all those

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Speaker 12: guys counting on him to make big plays.

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Speaker 5: Can't wait to see what he does. Jeffrey, thank you,

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Speaker 5: enjoy the weekend.

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Speaker 1: In case you missed it, Sakuon Barkley on the cover

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Speaker 1: of Madden twenty six leaping over a defender had some

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Speaker 1: help from the Ropes on this one just so he

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Speaker 1: didn't have to leap over guys repeatedly while they were

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Speaker 1: taking pictures and potentially hurt himself.

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Speaker 6: But you get the point.

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Speaker 1: It is recreating his leap during that Jacksonville game last year.

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Speaker 1: He's on the cover. Does he believe in the curse?

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Speaker 1: I mean probably not right.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm believer in God.

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Speaker 13: That's my mindset to be good Klans And I've had

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Speaker 13: injuries before. I tore my knee, I've stepped on a

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Speaker 13: foot and rolled my ankle. Was out for four to

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Speaker 13: six weeks and there was no curse then.

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Speaker 2: And that's just how life works.

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Speaker 11: You're going to have your ups and downs.

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Speaker 13: But my mindset is coming in work, do what I

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Speaker 13: need to do, and the rest is in God's hands.

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Speaker 1: I'm a believer in that awesome hat from the nineties. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what is Adam Rank having common with Saquon Barkley? Both

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Speaker 1: have been on The Insiders this week. That was during

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Speaker 1: our interview a couple of days ago. So this segment's

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Speaker 1: going to be fantasy buyer beware? Is it buyer beware

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Speaker 1: for Saquon? And if so, is it because of the cover?

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Speaker 1: Is there any other reason?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Christian McCaffrey was saying the same thing last year, like, no,

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Speaker 9: I'm not worried about the curse. I'll be fine. Did

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Speaker 9: he even play a game? I don't remember it was that.

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Speaker 9: I will tell you this though, if you want to

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Speaker 9: be afraid of taking somebody like Saquon Barkley because he's

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Speaker 9: on the cover of Madden, then like, be my guest.

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Speaker 9: Don't let me talk you out of it. But there

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Speaker 9: are other statistical reasons to avoid somebody like Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 9: this season. I think number one is the fact that

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Speaker 9: nobody has finished as the RB one in back to

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Speaker 9: back years since Gurley in twenty eighteen twenty seventeen, Like,

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Speaker 9: it is very difficult for these guys to maintain that

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Speaker 9: high level of success. Now, it's not to say that

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Speaker 9: I'm going to avoid him altogether. If I'm in the

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Speaker 9: middle of the first round in Saquon Barkley falls to me,

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Speaker 9: I will definitely fire in on him. I'm not going

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Speaker 9: to look at the Madden curse or anything like that.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't bother me. I'm just looking at the statistical

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Speaker 9: anomaly of guys going back to back, and I would

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Speaker 9: rather be on an ascending player like Bjean Robinson, I

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Speaker 9: think that's going to be the guy who ends up

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Speaker 9: being the running back one this season. Estian Genty is

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Speaker 9: somebody that I'm also thinking about in this space as well.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: You'll have to ask me in August when I fully

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Speaker 9: make my decision. But I'm not afraid of Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 9: because of the cover one guy.

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Speaker 2: Another guy that I am a little weary of.

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Speaker 9: Is Devon ah Chain, and he was great a couple

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Speaker 9: of years ago, but if you look at this last season,

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Speaker 9: he ran the ball over two hundred times and his

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Speaker 9: efficiency went way down. During his rookie year, he was

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Speaker 9: averaging cl to what eight yards per carries.

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Speaker 11: Something like that.

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Speaker 9: It was significantly lower last year when they gave him

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Speaker 9: a ton of carries. So I believe going into this

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Speaker 9: season they are going to limit his carries and he's

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Speaker 9: not going to get as many rushing yards, might not

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Speaker 9: get as many opportunities near the goal line to run

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Speaker 9: the ball. But if you play in a full on

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Speaker 9: PPR league, which some of you do, and I understand

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Speaker 9: that I typically play in half point PPR, but in

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Speaker 9: full point PPR the other eight Chain's a little bit better.

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Speaker 9: But overall, again, some of those guys that I mentioned before,

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Speaker 9: I will be looking at them more so than Devon

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Speaker 9: in the first round.

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Speaker 4: You know, rank, we try to give our viewers a

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Speaker 4: little bit more here compared to I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 4: other shows. They tune in, they expect the inside info

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Speaker 4: so they can give you a small bit of it.

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Speaker 3: It's a chanchin, not h chin. The producer. Listen, that

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Speaker 3: is the proper pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: That's what I said, a chan Listen.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 9: The producer was in my ear yelling at me, yelling

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Speaker 9: at me.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry I made that mistake. Listen. Some of us

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Speaker 3: are good teammates. We would never throw a producer under

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Speaker 3: the bus.

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Speaker 2: I want people, are you I'm a bad team.

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Speaker 3: Let's go through some wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk me through where we're out in the wide

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Speaker 4: receiver position, including Mike Evans.

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Speaker 11: And Terry McCloy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I do like Mike Evans as a person.

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Speaker 3: Is a good teammate.

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Speaker 9: Mike Evans certainly is, but when it comes to the

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Speaker 9: fantasy production, I'm gonna steer clear of him when you

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Speaker 9: look at the tier in which he is based. Now,

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Speaker 9: obviously Tampa Bay has been bringing in a lot of

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Speaker 9: younger talent there at the wide receiver position. They got

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Speaker 9: Jayleen McMillan a year ago, they brought in double le

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Speaker 9: this season, which means that at some point they're gonna

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Speaker 9: be moving on. And when you look at the tier

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Speaker 9: and for me, Mike Evans is like a Tier three

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Speaker 9: person and he's in there with Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba.

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Speaker 3: I would rather have him.

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Speaker 9: I'd rather have Lad McConkie T Higgins, Garrett Wilson. I

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Speaker 9: really do believe that Garrett Wilson's gonna have a huge

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Speaker 9: season this year with Justin Fields, even DeVante Adams. People

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Speaker 9: are going to be sleeping on DeVante Adams this season

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Speaker 9: because he's playing opposite of Pouka Nakua. But I really

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Speaker 9: love those players. So Mike Evans is a low end

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Speaker 9: Tier three person for me, And again, if I get

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Speaker 9: him at the right value, I'm I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 9: completely adverse Kary McLaurin, though with his contract situation, everything

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Speaker 9: that happened last year for the Commanders was amazing, and

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Speaker 9: anybody who had Terry McLaurin, myself included, you enjoyed the

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Speaker 9: benefit of eighty receptions he had thirteen touchdown receptions. The

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Speaker 9: regression is he's gonna come back to the mean a

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Speaker 9: little bit. I don't think that he reaches those numbers. Again,

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Speaker 9: they also bring in Deebo Samuel this year. There should

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Speaker 9: be a little bit of regression. So again, when you're

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Speaker 9: comparing him to other guys in his tier, I would

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Speaker 9: favor somebody else, like perhaps DJ Moore because we want

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Speaker 9: to continue that rivalry between Jade and Daniels and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 9: But given the price that you're gonna be paying for

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Speaker 9: Terry mclaur and, I would look at some other options.

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Speaker 9: And again, Garrett Wilson is a guy that I feel

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Speaker 9: is far too often slept on in that third tier.

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Speaker 9: And those are some of the guys I'm looking for

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Speaker 9: moving forward into our summer drafts.

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Speaker 1: It's Micklelan Mickllan.

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Speaker 3: That's how the producer was outside.

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Speaker 1: The producer doesn't speak French. Adam Runk, everybody Adam outside

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Speaker 1: of Paris buyer, beware of Adam Runk and Travis Hunter

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Speaker 1: and the Jacksonville Jaguars. We are we're talking them up

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Speaker 1: shortly what we're expecting to see from them and some

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Speaker 1: other teams as Rookie Minicamp approaches six. Here's the list

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five Black College Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Black College Football Hall of Fame nomine is your class

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five, including a couple of guys who

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Speaker 1: are patrolling NFL secondaries recently. Rashane mathis right there and

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Speaker 1: Dominique Rogers Cramarti DRC. Yeah he joined RSW. That's Steve

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Speaker 1: Weis to talk about the Enstroyment.

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Speaker 2: All right, Dominique?

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Speaker 14: First off, man, I love how you were just swagged out,

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Speaker 14: got the HBCU add on the legacy ball.

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Speaker 10: You know, you know.

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Speaker 14: I'm a Howard University graduate HBCU product, So I love

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Speaker 14: the way you're representing.

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Speaker 2: But let's kick this off as to why we're here.

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Speaker 14: On Saturday evening in Atlanta, I will be introducing you

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Speaker 14: and welcoming you into the Black College Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 14: How does it feel going into a shrine which recognized

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Speaker 14: these great players from HBCUs, Guys like Deacon Jones and

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Speaker 14: Jerry Rice, two tall Jones guys like that.

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Speaker 11: Man, It's an honor and a blessing.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 15: I remember coming into Cottage Man my freshman year and

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Speaker 15: them showing us a video of all the breaks that

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Speaker 15: passed before us, not just from Tennessee State, but from

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Speaker 15: Brambler and Jackson State, Alabama and them all.

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Speaker 11: Kind of legacy.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 15: I always thought to myself, one day, I want to

663
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Speaker 15: be one of those guys. Man, and it's time to unfold.

664
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Speaker 14: And one of the great things about this Hall of

665
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 14: Fame is you recognize the great things guys did at

666
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 14: their HBCUs. You were great at Tennessee State, eleven interceptions,

667
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 14: guys couldn't get anything on you. But also in the NFL,

668
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 14: you're one of the last players from historically black college

669
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Speaker 14: you get drafted in the first round from you know,

670
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Speaker 14: and so what about you know, cementing your legacy in

671
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 14: that regard, But also the guys who come behind you

672
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 14: really have not been able to get recognized the way

673
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Speaker 14: you did.

674
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Speaker 11: Man.

675
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 15: I'm glad I did get a chance to go to

676
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Speaker 15: the Senior Bowl and the combine. That kind of helped

677
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 15: me because coming from an HBCU, we don't get that

678
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 15: much recognition because we don't play the top end schools

679
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 15: in the talents week in and week out, so we kind.

680
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 11: Of slept on.

681
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 15: But we have the potential to be first round as

682
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 15: we just need a chance. And I had the opportunity

683
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 15: to chance. Man, I just took advantage of it.

684
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 11: Man.

685
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 15: So I tell the guys that come from behind me

686
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 15: and always ask me the question. Man, I just say, Man,

687
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 15: I just kept working to opportunity really presented itself.

688
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Speaker 14: And you talked about how you took advantage of the

689
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 14: Senior Bowl. You were the defensive MVP at the Senior Bowl.

690
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Speaker 14: You to the combine, ran that four two nine. Okay,

691
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 14: let's go back and look at the film. What about

692
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 14: guys making sure they take advantage of every opportunity. You're

693
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 14: wearing a Legacy Bowl advantage, which is kind of like

694
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 14: the Senior Bowl for HBCUs of guys doing everything they

695
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 14: can to enhance their stature.

696
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 11: You got to do that, man.

697
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 15: If they invite you somewhere, how you come out, Man,

698
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 15: I believe in you got to work out, man, just showcase.

699
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 15: The time is whenever you get that chance. So take

700
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 15: advantage of everything. And that's why I'm always going back

701
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 15: like you see me on Tennessee State campus a lot, man,

702
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 15: because I try to get back and get the guys

703
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 15: the resources that they need and just to be around

704
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 15: so they can see me in Maybe one of them

705
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 15: be like, Man, if he did it, I could do it.

706
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 11: So I'm always around.

707
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 15: I love, I love I love what the HBCU legacy

708
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 15: is doing for them, guys.

709
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Speaker 2: Okay, and you know one thing I want I want

710
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: to really hit hit on you with.

711
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 14: Here we see Michael Vick now coaching at Norfolk State,

712
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 14: Sean Jackson coaching at Delaware State. Former NFL players who

713
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 14: didn't really have any association with hbc he used, going

714
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 14: to coach at these programs. What are your thoughts on that,

715
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 14: especially since Eddie George just took Tennessee State to the

716
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 14: Ohio Valley Conference championship.

717
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: Left for Bowling Green but there.

718
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Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, but he said a light on us.

719
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Speaker 15: Man, that's awesome that those guys doing that, because now

720
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 15: you got a coach that been there none at all.

721
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Speaker 11: So now they're gonna understand the grind of the ABCUS

722
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Speaker 11: go through.

723
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 15: Man. I think they gonna really help guys get there,

724
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 15: and you can get more guys to come there who

725
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 15: don't want to play for Michael Vick or the sign

726
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 15: Jackson or Eddie George. Man, so now you're not competing

727
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 15: with the big schools. You got guys that keep coming back.

728
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 15: So I hope more guys come back and coach Man

729
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 15: because we really need that because not only it's gonna

730
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 15: shed light, it's gonna get guys opportunity and now they

731
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 15: could get some more talent there.

732
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Speaker 14: I want to bring some things kind of full circle

733
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 14: for you. We saw big news happen. You know in Pittsburgh.

734
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 14: This Aaron Rodgers is gonna go play quarterback for them.

735
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 14: But you you got your hands on at least one

736
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 14: of those passes from Aaron Rodgers. Walk us through that

737
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 14: a little bit. It tells you to think about him

738
00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 14: going to pitch.

739
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 15: I'll never forget it was the second round, I mean

740
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 15: the first round playoffs in Arizona. It was a shootout

741
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 15: between us, the Arizona Cardinals and the Green Bay Package Man.

742
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 15: And I picked him off that first series man, and

743
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 15: I still got that ball. I'm always chairs of that

744
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 15: ball because God always asked me who was the hardest quarterback,

745
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 15: and I always say Anon Roger because he throws his

746
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 15: receivers open when the receiver have a step on you.

747
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 15: You kind of have with the speed that I have.

748
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 15: You got to call Mike up speed he's not getting

749
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 15: you a chance to make up. So I always tell

750
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Speaker 15: people there's certain quarterbacks I just can't play with, and

751
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 15: he's one of them.

752
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Speaker 2: I love hearing that.

753
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Speaker 14: And real quick, you're going into the hall with one

754
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 14: of your contemporaries to Rashen mathis a dB.

755
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: What about going in with him?

756
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Speaker 11: Man? See, people don't understand the stuff that he did

757
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 11: for HBC.

758
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 15: Man, I mean, he didn't go first round, but he

759
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 15: should have been man all the picks he had throughout

760
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 15: his career and just shutting people down.

761
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Speaker 12: Man.

762
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 11: Like, when you come from an HBC, you.

763
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Speaker 15: Know the guys that went before you, and he was

764
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 15: one of the guys I looked up to, and they

765
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 15: kind of said I was like him, tall, skinny, small,

766
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 15: frail guy that could come out of breaks and get

767
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 15: his hands on the ball, the ball hawk. So he

768
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 15: was definitely somebody I looked up to. So to be

769
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Speaker 15: going in with him, it is kind of an honor.

770
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Speaker 14: All right, DRC, I will see you in Atlanta Saturday

771
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 14: at the College Football Hall of Fame.

772
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Congratulations on everything.

773
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 11: I appreciate it. The man, See you soon.

774
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams has had an eventful a couple of weeks

775
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: but he put to bed the notion that he didn't

776
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: want to be a Chicago Bear, a nugget that came

777
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: out in ESPN six Seth Wickershan's upcoming book, and Williams said, no, no,

778
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: maybe at some point like the thought, but once I

779
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: came in and visited, yeah, I.

780
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: Wanted to be a Bear.

781
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: Well on, he goes to twenty twenty five as he

782
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Adam Rank and Judy Batista goes and tries to dispel

783
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Speaker 1: the notion that that's where quarterbacks go to die, which

784
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: is sort of came from his side anyway, So good

785
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: luck to spelling what you helped to set up there. Judy,

786
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: you've got an article on teams that have to nix

787
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: negative narratives. We're going to start with the Bears and

788
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: that notion.

789
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Speaker 5: Well, as Rank will testify, this was not a narrative

790
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: that began with Caleb Williams and his family.

791
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 6: This is a long standing narrative for the Chicago Bears.

792
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 5: But the Bears this offseason have done just about everything

793
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 5: they can to set themselves up to finally dispel this

794
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: for Caleb Williams. They first of all changed the coaching

795
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 5: staff and hired Ben Johnson.

796
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 6: They remade the.

797
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: Offensive line, which was a huge issue last year. Remember

798
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: he was sacked like sixty eight times last season. So

799
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 5: they did a lot of work on the offensive line,

800
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 5: They drafted offensive weapons form, and just generally they put

801
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams at the center of the Bears universe, which

802
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: is where he should be all along. Certainly, everything is

803
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 5: going to come down to if he vibes with Ben Johnson.

804
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 6: And the play calling is good and all of.

805
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 5: Those weapons come together and they get the running game going.

806
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 5: But this is a team that has finally put Caleb

807
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 5: Williams at the center of its plans, hoping finally to

808
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: dispel that myth.

809
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 9: Jerdy, let me tell you the three best Bears quarterbacks

810
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 9: in my lifetime. It goes Jim Man, Jay Cutler, and

811
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 9: Walter Payton on the halfback option.

812
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 2: And that's the list.

813
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 9: Sorry, my friend Eric Kramer always gets upset when I

814
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 9: say that, But it's been a long time and the Bears,

815
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 9: it feels like they have their quarterback even with everything

816
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 9: that went wrong last year. Thirty five hundred yards, twenty touchdowns,

817
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 9: pretty good. One of the things that's impressed me the

818
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 9: most though, As the Bears have gone into minicamp or

819
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 9: OTAs this week is There was a play the other

820
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 9: day where Caleb Williams completed a pass to DeAndre Swift

821
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 9: there in the flight. I've even been that play. Ben

822
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 9: Johnson was on his case immediately stressing that he's got

823
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 9: to get the ball out faster, got to put it

824
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 9: in a better spot. And this attention to detail has

825
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 9: been something that's been lacking for the Bears at the

826
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 9: quarterback position pretty much forever. So I think that having

827
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 9: been Johnson there and what he's been able to do

828
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 9: throughout the course of his career leads us to believe

829
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 9: Caleb Williams is going to break through this season.

830
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 11: At least that's the hope.

831
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 1: On to the Bengals, who have spent money and time

832
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: and consideration their offense this offseason. Judy, what's the notion

833
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: that they have to dispel? I guess it's has something

834
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: to do with the.

835
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: Defense, Yeah, because they have spent a whole lot of

836
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 5: time and money on the offense and not quite as

837
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 5: much on the defense.

838
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 6: And the defense was a.

839
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 5: Huge issue last year. That's what really kept them from

840
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: going to the playoffs. Now they changed the coordinator. Al

841
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: Golden is the defensive coordinator. But they still have this

842
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson contract situation looming over them. He did not

843
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 5: participate in OTAs he has said that he will not

844
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 5: play on his old contract. We will see this of course,

845
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: is a mandatory mini camp coming up and we'll see

846
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 5: what happens when.

847
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 6: We get to training camp.

848
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: They even have a contract situation with the rookie Schamar Stewart.

849
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 5: An awful lot is going to be placed on al

850
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 5: Golden and if we get Trey Hendrickson in there, Trey

851
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 5: Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart to get a whole lot more

852
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 5: production out.

853
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 6: Of that defense.

854
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: The reality for the Bengals is they don't need to

855
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 5: have a number one defense in the league. They need

856
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 5: just marginal improvement in that defense because the offense has

857
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: been so good as long as Joe Burrow is healthy,

858
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: Just a little bit of improvement in that defense and

859
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 5: they will get to the playoffs.

860
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, all they need to do is make a couple

861
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 9: of stops here and there, And that really lends itself

862
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 9: to where the Bengals struggled last season was number one

863
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 9: in the red zone. They were one of the worst

864
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 9: teams at stopping opposing clubs in the red zone and

865
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 9: they don't create enough turnovers. So they have to get

866
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 9: everybody signed. They got to get Trey Hendrickson in there,

867
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 9: get everybody signed, make some turnovers, and yes, every once

868
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 9: in a while, stop somebody in the red zone.

869
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 3: And this team is one of the best in the AFC.

870
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Judy to the Arizona Cardinals. I feel like we don't

871
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: talk enough about the Cardinals. This is a big year

872
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: for Jonathan Gannon in this regime, entering year three, having

873
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: to take that next step. What do the Cardinals need

874
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: to dispel?

875
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 11: Oh?

876
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 5: I think they have to dispel the myth that their

877
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 5: offense underachieved last season. And it's going to be hard

878
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: to do that because if you look at the numbers

879
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 5: when you have a healthy Kyler Murray he played seventeen games,

880
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: they did underachieved.

881
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 6: They were twelveth in points scored.

882
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: Eighteenth and passing seven teenth in red zone percentage.

883
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's good, but it's not great.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of underwhelming, and I think most disappointing was

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Speaker 5: that Marvin Harrison Junior, who is considered one of the

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Speaker 5: best wide receiver prospects to come out in years, was

887
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 5: not a much bigger factor in the offense. He was

888
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: targeted one hundred and sixteen times, he caught sixty two

889
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 5: passes for eight hundred and eighty five yards. He was

890
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 5: targeted double digit times just three games of the seventeen

891
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Speaker 5: games he played.

892
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Speaker 6: Compare that to Malik Neighbors, who.

893
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: Was dealing with far less quarterback play, much worse situation.

894
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: He was targeted one hundred and seventy times, caught one

895
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 5: hundred and nine passes for twelve hundred and four yards.

896
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Speaker 5: So he was a much more integral part of the

897
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Speaker 5: Giants offense than Marvin Harrison Junior was in Arizona. They

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Speaker 5: got to get him much more involved in that offense

899
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 5: this year.

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00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 9: But I feel like one of the problem was trying

901
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 9: to force the ball into Marvin Harrison Junior, because when

902
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 9: you take away his targets and catches Kyler Murray's, his

903
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 9: completion percentage was in the seventies when not targeting Marvin

904
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Speaker 9: Harrison Junior. James Connor did really well, Trey McBride did

905
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Speaker 9: really well despite not catching the ball in the end zone.

906
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Speaker 2: And then there was Greg Dortch.

907
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Speaker 9: So they got to be better targets to Marvin Harrison junior,

908
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Speaker 9: and if they can find a way to creatively get

909
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 9: him the ball and still make this offense efficient, the

910
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Speaker 9: Cardinals have a really good opportunity this season to make

911
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Speaker 9: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com backslash Batista three, T's two and then one.

913
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Speaker 1: You can get that story as well as everything else

914
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Speaker 1: that she has written recently.

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Speaker 2: Go read it all.

916
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, Adam Rank, because you're done, you

917
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Speaker 1: can just go read Judy now. Speaking of the Cardinals,

918
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Speaker 1: earlier this week, they held their fourth annual Civics Matters

919
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Speaker 1: Arizona Trip. The event sent approximately two hundred and seventy

920
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Speaker 1: five Arizona high school students from across the state on

921
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Speaker 1: an all expenses paid trip to the nation's capital. Students

922
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Speaker 1: got to ride the Cardinals team plane to Washington, DC

923
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Speaker 1: for a four day, three night trip. The Civics Matters

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Speaker 1: Arizona program is a civic engagement initiative for students across

925
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Speaker 1: the state. That is some fine work from the Cardinals there, folks.

926
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Speaker 1: We are almost at the end of the spring session

927
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Speaker 1: for the NFL, but before we break for the summer, yes,

928
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: mandatory minicamp for all these teams that begin on Tuesday,

929
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Speaker 1: much of the league is going to be in miniicamp

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Speaker 1: this week. You won't see the Patriots on this list

931
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Speaker 1: because they begin mandatory mini camp Monday. They're actually the

932
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Speaker 1: first team to do that. So with that said, insiders

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Speaker 1: come back in here. Ian, who are we most looking

934
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: forward to seeing in a veteran minicamp? I keep saying Rookie.

935
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Speaker 1: Stop saying Rookie, dude.

936
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Rookie was like a month ago. This is actual

937
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: mandatory mini camp. I'm looking forward to seeing the Cowboys,

938
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Speaker 4: mostly because I know Dak Prescott has been taking part

939
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 4: in ots. I know he's been doing all the agility

940
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 4: jeels with the quarterbacks. We haven't seen him do very

941
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: much since that significant hamstring injury. At the least, it'll

942
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Speaker 4: be nice to see him on the field with his teammates.

943
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Speaker 5: I am looking forward to seeing Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.

944
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Speaker 6: There is no other answer.

945
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Speaker 3: I will be there.

946
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Speaker 1: Tune in next week. Have a great week at everybody.

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Speaker 1: Insiders out