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Speaker 1: Your two weeks about drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too, our number two. Feeling better here, a.

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Speaker 3: Little better than yesterday, I hope everyone. Yeah, come on,

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Speaker 3: don't wallow in it.

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Speaker 2: You got to you know, I mean, it's just Matt,

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Speaker 2: it's life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna win every game.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna win every single game, although we would

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Speaker 2: certainly like to. Yeah, but yeah, it is uh, listen,

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Speaker 2: sometimes the National Football League, it is not for the

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Speaker 2: faint of heart. Okay, but we are still here, rocking

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Speaker 2: and rolling, ready.

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Speaker 3: To get into digging in an hour two here, Yeah, ready.

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Speaker 2: To get into some fantasy football conversation as we do.

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Speaker 2: Kind of our weekly waiver wire conversation here, mister Williamson.

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Speaker 2: A couple names that I want to run past you.

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Speaker 2: As always, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't think the waiver wires real flush right this week.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little thing.

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Speaker 2: It is. It is starting because again you're getting to

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Speaker 2: that time. The injuries are piling up by we you know,

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Speaker 2: bye week's all that different stuff. So let's look at

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Speaker 2: some of the the top players to add here on

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Speaker 2: waiver wires. Remember, to be eligible for this conversation, they

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Speaker 2: have to be owned in less than sixty percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Running Back Blake Koram of the Los Angeles Rams, mister Williamson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a good time of year just to

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Speaker 4: own clear handcuffs, you know. And he's a clear handcuff

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Speaker 4: for the Rams. I mean, Kirrien Williams has had a

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Speaker 4: lot of wear and tearing his body. He's not the

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Speaker 4: biggest guy over the last couple of years. If he

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Speaker 4: were to go down, you already have korum and just

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Speaker 4: insert him as an every week starter. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: and he's looked good. The thing, they're a great offense too,

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Speaker 4: They are great.

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Speaker 2: Whoever whoever's involved in that offense is gonna put up some.

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Speaker 3: Points for Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he should be, especially if you're a William's owner.

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Speaker 3: But no matter what, he should be in every league.

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Speaker 2: It looks like he's only rostered in eleven percent of

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Speaker 2: leagues right now. So yeah, I think that's a smart,

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Speaker 2: smart pick up there. Uh, sticking a running back, what

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Speaker 2: about Tajy Spears of the Titans? Just thirty six percent rostered, not.

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Speaker 3: A good offense. But I would think, and they already

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Speaker 3: have kind of trend.

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Speaker 2: Out produce Tony Pollard in three of their last four games.

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Speaker 3: As just say, what's the use of seeing what you

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Speaker 3: have in Pollard? At his age?

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Speaker 4: I thought Pollard was a trade deadline candidate. You already

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Speaker 4: know what he has. You at least should kind of

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Speaker 4: work the younger dude in there, and backs that get

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Speaker 4: touches are worth being picking up in fantasy no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Two more of those guys that I want to run

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Speaker 2: past you that are both owned in less than forty

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Speaker 2: percent of leagues, Amario de Mercado and Tyler Algier.

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Speaker 4: Algiers the same conversation as Korum. I mean, he's one

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Speaker 4: big injury away from being everyone.

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Speaker 2: But he's still even with being with like they still

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Speaker 2: use him. He's still gonna get a few touches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think he's been getting the goal line work lately,

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Speaker 4: which Bijon owners are losing their minds.

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Speaker 2: Losing their minds about. And remember they used to crush

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith for that years ago and now it's still happening.

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Speaker 3: In the LANDA was good at it. He's a big

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Speaker 3: physical dude. He's hard to tackle in short yard of situations.

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Speaker 2: Yes he is.

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Speaker 4: And I think he's also a little bit better than

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Speaker 4: some of these other dudes, and that you could probably

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Speaker 4: use him as a flex in a pinch.

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Speaker 3: You know, even with Bijeon.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's not useless, Uh, Demarcado, I think Benson's

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Speaker 2: I hope he's coming back this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been holding him sitting there, just eating up, clogging.

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Speaker 2: Up my roster and hamp and both just on my roster.

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Speaker 3: So he doesn't excite me all that much, Deve Marcado.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to some quarterbacks here in this conversation. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna throw some some possible names for you for quarterback

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Speaker 2: waiver wire pickups. Marcus Mariota, Joe Flacco, oh lord, especially

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Speaker 4: The other guy's run, I mean that's obviously the massive negative.

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Speaker 4: That's the only reason he's out there. Because Flacco throws

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Speaker 2: Ton fifty two percent rostered for him, so he's pretty close.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy's fifty six percent rostered.

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Speaker 4: I mean, none of them. I'm doing jumping jacks over.

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Speaker 4: But if your guy got hurt, you know, I get it.

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Speaker 2: What about to attag of Iola only owned in nineteen

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Speaker 2: just do that whenever Buffalo comes to Miami or another.

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Speaker 4: One that doesn't run at all. It's his te problem.

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Speaker 4: But all those guys are about the same. They're probably

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Speaker 4: twenty give or take, you know, and she probably can

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Speaker 4: do better. But if you're hit with Bie Weeks or whatever,

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Speaker 2: Here's one to run past you. Any sign of life

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Speaker 2: for Justin feet Old's forty six per man he was

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Speaker 2: a top ten quarterback on everybody's preseason rankings forty six

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but worries me about him? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 4: what eleven passes or something last week, which it's hard

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Speaker 4: to put up fantasy numbers when you don't do any

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Speaker 4: of that, right, But I keep worrying about him. Is

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Speaker 4: the worst thing in fantasy is when you start someone

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Speaker 4: and they get like hurt in the first quarter. Of course, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: he could get benched in any game.

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Speaker 2: He could, you know, I certainly could.

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Speaker 4: Like two is not getting benched, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: like FLACKA is not getting benched in the mid game.

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Speaker 2: Marks Mariot is not getting based at this point. Right

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Speaker 2: wide receivers here, Matt Alex Pierce from the Colts still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a really good player.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a pretty obvious one. I'm starting to

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Speaker 2: feel better and better about Tess Johnson as well too.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've talked about him a couple of

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Speaker 2: times in this conversation. Thirty two percent of leagues for Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The receivers on that team put up put up points.

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Speaker 4: I've made a little money on Pierce over receiving yards.

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Speaker 3: He's hit the over in the like the first half

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to keep that in the back

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Speaker 2: pocket this weekend. Parker Washington, Troy Franklin.

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Speaker 4: Yes on Washington, I think he's a borderline starter. He

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Speaker 4: had two touchdowns, one was a punt return. Hunter's not

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Speaker 4: Thomas was injured, so that kind of helped them to

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Speaker 4: But they like Parker Washington.

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Speaker 3: I think he should be in leagues. Who is the

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Speaker 2: Parker Washington and Troy Franklin.

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Speaker 3: Ye, so so so so fifty.

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Speaker 2: Four of leagues he's rostered in Right now, finally Matt

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Speaker 2: tight ends Colson Lovelin's still available.

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Speaker 3: In Yeah, jump on that one.

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Speaker 2: He could be a big ad for somebody heading into

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Speaker 4: Their offense is putting up a lot of points too,

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Speaker 4: and the defense is bad. It's kind of a Bengals situation.

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Speaker 2: It's a bet Bengal situation but very similar. Yes, uh,

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Speaker 2: I think Colson Lovelin is.

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Speaker 3: No. They're playing their young guys on purpose and gold

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Speaker 2: What about Kate Aughten of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers forty

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Speaker 2: For the last five games, he has four receptions, five receptions,

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Speaker 2: seven receptions and nine recept w went for nine in

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Speaker 3: I think he's vastly underrated in the fantasy world. And

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Speaker 3: I was reading some stuff this morning about him Orman's

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Speaker 3: Yesterday or whatever it was. But he has really good numbers.

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Speaker 4: When either Evans or Godwin is out and they've been

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Speaker 4: I mean in the right now. He's kind of their

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Speaker 4: number two receiver. I mean a lot of those numbers

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Speaker 4: reflect before Abuca was a buck, going back to last

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Speaker 4: And that's what happens, right, and their receivers are banged up.

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Speaker 4: If Godwins and Evans are both out, he's gonna get

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Speaker 4: a lot of passes, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, A couple couple quick hitters on defense and kickers

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what they'll used to make fun

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Speaker 4: of me. I mean I don't know who hardly any

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Speaker 2: Punters, right with you? I can maybe name I can

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Speaker 2: maybe name like five or six around the league kickers,

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Speaker 4: I'm decent, but you might be like Santos, I'll be like,

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Speaker 2: A cairo U kickers available and sorry that are not

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Speaker 2: that are less than sixty percent, spin it out Uler

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Speaker 2: less than sixty percent, Rostered Cam Little, Brandon McManus, Evan McPherson.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't think there's really any art to

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Speaker 2: And look and see who you think is playing against

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Speaker 2: the worst defense and is going to have the option

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Speaker 2: to kick the most that week.

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Speaker 4: I mean to Justin Tucker in his prime, you want

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Speaker 4: don't put much stock into I can't comment on kicker

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Speaker 4: twelve verse kicker eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Defenses, Packers, Patriots, Ravens, the most popular waiver. They're all

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Speaker 2: owned in about fifty four fifty seven.

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Speaker 4: I definitely think they're the Ravens are I think are

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Speaker 4: trending the right way, which is bad.

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Speaker 2: News, starting to get taken and sacks again.

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Speaker 3: Hamilton's being really weaponized in a variety of ways.

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Speaker 4: A lot of those I just look at their upcoming opponents.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure the Patriots have an easy slate. I

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Speaker 4: know they're the Jets this week.

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Speaker 2: They do.

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Speaker 4: And all three of those defenses are legit good defenses.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we saw Green Bay last night. Both those

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Speaker 4: defenses were impressive last night.

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Speaker 2: They were they were. We'll talk about that in our

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Speaker 2: final segment before we get out of here. But Alosa

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Speaker 2: fantas Fantasy football waiver wire here? For week eleven. We're

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Speaker 2: getting closer and closer, like I said, to playoff time.

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Speaker 1: You were tuns about drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 2: To the power rankings, we go a Tuesday tradition unlike

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Speaker 2: any other. And of course if you've been rocking and

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Speaker 2: You know, my last name Euler starts with the U.

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Speaker 4: And you'd be like, yeah, I think I told you

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 2: Can't get any lower than that, Matt number thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's pretty clear at this point to.

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Speaker 2: Talk about team that's playing young guys. I mean, they've

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Speaker 4: It's relevant now. But with the Browns losing to the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's at least a conversation that they won't be

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Speaker 3: I think that's harsh.

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Speaker 3: But they have a defense, they do.

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Speaker 3: They have no passing game, that sold off some of

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Speaker 3: No, he wanted traded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then it has been quite the opposite. Giants check

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Speaker 4: Thought Dart was playing well in the game he got hurt.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like Joe Shane will return is to help

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Speaker 2: Young pieces on that defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Know, They've lost four straight and don't look now, but

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Speaker 4: I knew go into season they what was projected to

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't see many more wins on their skin.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a long half of the back

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Speaker 2: Though, I think in general, but I don't know about

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Speaker 3: So badly right. Yeah, they're a mess right now and

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Speaker 2: They were playing the Saints right now. The Saints might

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Saints don't belong at thirty one.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't. That's you're right, that's a little bit

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Speaker 2: I think the offense is above average.

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Speaker 2: But the defense is it is the worst, dreadful. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's right. They should be moving out right.

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Speaker 2: They're better than all those teams.

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Speaker 2: You know, did you see what Mike McDaniel did after

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Speaker 3: Nothing comes to mind.

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Speaker 2: It's called elbow Room. Okay, it's like a sports bar,

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00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 2: legendary watering hole in that area, Like when the Florida

443
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 2: Panthers have won the Stanley Cup. The last two years

444
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 2: they've taken it to Elbow Room to celebrate at Gotcha.

445
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 2: It's like a two story right on the beach, you know,

446
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 2: a ton of outdoors. Yes, Buffalo Bills fans are in

447
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 2: a to us for taking it over every time they

448
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 2: go to Miami. Okay, that's like where Bill's fans congregate

449
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: and they always post video and it's like a sea

450
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: of red and blue at this Miami sports bart place.

451
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel drove past there after the win on Sunday

452
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,479
Speaker 2: and kind of put his window down and waved all

453
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: the Bills fans just drove right by.

454
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 3: Good He's a dude, but he does some funny stuff.

455
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 2: Good Troll moved by him. I enjoy. He like put

456
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 2: his window down and was like, thanks for coming, thanks

457
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 2: for stimulating the local economy. Checking in at number twenty

458
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: three is the Dallas Cowboys.

459
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 4: Made a few moves. I mean, what's Quinn Williams do

460
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 4: for you? I mean, well, guess we'll see that soon.

461
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta think the defense gets a little boost.

462
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 4: You know, the offense is strong.

463
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 2: They still though, have the Eagles, the Chiefs and the Chargers.

464
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 4: Puff I don't think the playoffs are attainable for them.

465
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: I don't either. It's it's a classic. It's a classic

466
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: case of like if they would have just gotten one

467
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 2: of these close games. Ye kind of like we talked

468
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: about the Bengals. If just one of these results went

469
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 2: the other way and you were four to four and

470
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 2: one instead of three to five in one, it's a

471
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: different story, you know. If you're the Bengals and you're

472
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: four and five, it's a different game.

473
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Speaker 3: Behind the steiler, it's a different story.

474
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: I think they just they might be a dollar short

475
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 2: when I think they're dollars short when it when it

476
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: gets down to the the nitty gritty. Twenty two, I

477
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 2: don't understand how they're so high. The Arizona Cardinals, they're one.

478
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 3: I think they'd be down.

479
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 2: One and six in their last seven games.

480
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 4: I know they've won heartbreakers in close games, but they

481
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 4: don't win.

482
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 3: They've lost.

483
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: I take the Cowboys over and realized the beat the

484
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 2: Cowboys a couple of weeks ago, but I take the Cowboys.

485
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 2: I'd take the Dolphins over them. I take the Bengals

486
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: over them.

487
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, all three themes we just mentioned for sure.

488
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: They're another one that's going to be in the quarterback market,

489
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: and I think probably in the head coach market as

490
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: well too.

491
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see changes.

492
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: Twenty one the Atlanta Falcons from three and two to

493
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: three and six, four straight losses.

494
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 3: I don't think I'd have many higher than that.

495
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: Struggling with consistency. They played the Colts. They played the

496
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 2: Colts well, but they did That's the NFL, man, I

497
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: don't care about losing close games. Like every game in

498
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: the NFL, for the most part, is designed to be

499
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: a one score game. That's what separates the good and

500
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: the bad. And I don't think they belong at the

501
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 2: bottom of this list. I think this is probably about.

502
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 3: Yeah right, they're They're a little bit all over the place.

503
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: To them is kind of making any noise down the show.

504
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, me too.

505
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: Number twenty the Minnesota Vikings, a tough loss, eight false

506
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: start penalties at home and that loss to the Ravens

507
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: two interceptions.

508
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 3: But I mean in gaming, that's got to be on McCarthy.

509
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: Game has to be a game you lost by one possession,

510
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: two interceptions, eight false starts, two fumbles on on back

511
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: to back kickoffs, Like they just they shoot themselves in

512
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: the foot a lot.

513
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that game in particular, the Ravens didn't

514
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 4: have to do a lot to win it.

515
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: No, they didn't.

516
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 4: That's about where i'd have the vikings, though, I.

517
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: Think so I might have them ahead of this team,

518
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers checking at nineteen.

519
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of out on Bryce Young and the Panthers.

520
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they're five and five, so I

521
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: know they're still in a wild rise chase.

522
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: But they run the ball and there's some improvement. But

523
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 4: I don't think that they're good or even average.

524
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: I don't either. They're only a game and a half

525
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: out of a playoff spot right now, but I would

526
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 2: think that that trends in the opposite direction.

527
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't like their future.

528
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 2: Maybe the most brutal loss of anybody this past week,

529
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean, that's just they were up

530
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: twenty nine to ten on the CJ. Stroudless Houston Texans.

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, according to a miserable loss.

532
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: According to NFL Next Gen Stats, Matt, they had a

533
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 2: ninety seven percent chance to win at that point. Oh,

534
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like down in Morgantown in the final

535
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: minutes of the Backyard bra how could you lose that one?

536
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Those guys are flying real high rightfully, so had to

537
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: sneak that one in there.

538
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: So I just got a notification my phone. Honestly, like

539
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: a minute ago. Travis Hunter season ending the surgery. Oh,

540
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 4: I mean, there was some hope that he'd be back sooner.

541
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Speaker 3: Than later, and I adore him. You did prospect and

542
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: that's as much as you gave up for him.

543
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: That's a tough one, brutal. I mean, yeah, did Jacobe

544
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Meyer to the mix, but yeah.

545
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: And they probably knew that was coming.

546
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: Robinson's been banged up, trafas Hunter's been banged up. It's tough.

547
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: It's tough. They're still five and four, still got plenty

548
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: to play for, but.

549
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: They're a huge loss for them.

550
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: Again, the difference between six and three and five and

551
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: four for them is a world of difference.

552
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 4: Could they get it back together and be one of

553
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 4: the final seven teams in the AFC? I guess, but

554
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 4: I'm definitely betting the answers no to that. Like they

555
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 4: weren't happy to see the Chargers win.

556
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: Like right now, if I told you a Christmas weekend

557
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: or the Jaguars playing an important game or not, I

558
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: might lean Torns, not definitely. Not. Where's a week ago

559
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: I would have said for sure, Yeah, I said, I'm

560
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: not saying they'll definitely make it, but they'll be playing

561
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: important games down the stretch.

562
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: Now will be and they won't be.

563
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: Might have done a flip might have seen a flip

564
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: flop there. Speaking of Houston, they are a spot above

565
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: the Jags at seventeen four and five hangar defense. Yeah,

566
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: two games out of that final, a wild card bid

567
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: hanging around. They've got Tennessee this weekend. Should should get

568
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 2: back to five hundred and then hey, you know, if

569
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: they start rattling off a couple wins, they're going to

570
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: be right in the mix down the stretch.

571
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the divisions of colts, I mean of tours,

572
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: but totally they could be that seventh seed that gets hot.

573
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: At number sixteen, a team the Steelers are going to

574
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: see here in just a couple of weeks. It's the

575
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: six and three Chicago Bears.

576
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: They're rolling. I'm still not completely sold that they're good good.

577
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: I mean, the defense is bad, and they're better. They're better.

578
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: They're not a doormat pushover, not even close. They might

579
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: be a little head of a schedule at six and three,

580
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: they might be more like a five and four, four

581
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: and five type team in reality, but good for them.

582
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: They found a way to pull out some some tight

583
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: games in the fourth quarter, and I think there's always

584
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: something to be said for that.

585
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 4: So a podcast I listened to from time to time

586
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 4: is The Athletic with Robert Mays, and he does a

587
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 4: great job and it's a it's a good podcast. But

588
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: he's a very outspoken Bears fan. I mean he's been

589
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 4: a Bears fan since he could crawl, and you know,

590
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: still doesn't hide his fandom or anything like that.

591
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: He had a good point.

592
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: He said something along the lines of, I think he's

593
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 4: a little younger than maybe he's older than you base.

594
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 4: He's like in my lifetime, this is about the peak

595
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: of my Bear fandom. Like I'm pretty psyched the back Yeah,

596
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, right right, I'm not sure if he's

597
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 4: old enough to do. I mean that was more than

598
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: twenty I mean you were talking about eighty five Bears.

599
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the Rex Grossman lost to Peyton Manning.

600
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: But like that was he's like, we have a quarterback.

601
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: We got young guys, you know, the build round looks

602
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: like a no line. Yeah, maybe we're an off season

603
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: of building a defense from really taking the next step.

604
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: I really like right on their offensive line.

605
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: He's a really good player.

606
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: He's outstanding. Yeah, I'll never forgive Dana Holgerson for not

607
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: recruiting him the WVU as a West Virginia kid.

608
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: He's a w He's West Virginia.

609
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 2: He sure is in our head coach at the time,

610
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: Dana Holgerson had no desire to recruit him, and then

611
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: he ended up as a top ten pick in the draft. Yes,

612
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: ain't that WVU In a nutshell.

613
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 3: They're usually like Penny Sool.

614
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: He's great, he's a lot of fun to watch, and

615
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: he's a really good kid. I've got some very loose

616
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: My family knows some members of his family, My West

617
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: Virginia family knows some members of He's.

618
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: Come on really strong with the kids that I've rooted.

619
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: For for a long time. I think he's a good kid,

620
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: and I think he's a really good player. Yeah, number fifteen,

621
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: don't look now, but here they come. It's the Baltimore Ravens.

622
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 3: I probably haven't higher, would you. I mean, if they're

623
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: playing the Steelers in Wichita right now.

624
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: I think he might be right.

625
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they'd be favored against a lot of

626
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: teams right now.

627
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: Train don't run out of wichital playing trains and automobiles.

628
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: Number fourteen just in front of them is the Steelers.

629
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: I mean, winning Steelers have a better record, but if

630
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: you're going on current form.

631
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: I think the Ravens are favored here.

632
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Not by much, but probably ero point and a half.

633
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and definitely in their building.

634
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: Happened quick. Huh, life comes at you fast. In the

635
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: National Football League, San Francisco forty nine ers at six

636
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: and four, still with their head above.

637
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: Water, heads above water, but they've been treading water for

638
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 4: a long time, water for a while.

639
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

640
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: Man, that division is so good, that's the thing. And

641
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: as we were kind of just putting it like it's

642
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, you're looking around on the

643
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: Titanic and there's only one chair left for a playoff

644
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: spot in the NFC, and.

645
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: I bet they don't get it.

646
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: And I bet they don't get it either. Yeah I would.

647
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: I think I'd go with some of these other teams.

648
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: I haven't had Steelers, though I did Baltimore over the Niners.

649
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: The Ravens are playing Niners right now. I would pick

650
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 4: the Ravens.

651
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 2: Number twelve, drop in a few spots lowis. They've been

652
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: in a few weeks still five three and one, but

653
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: it hasn't looked good since they came in here to

654
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and one on Sunday night football in the Green

655
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: Bay Packers.

656
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that was a defensive I thought last

657
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 4: night was more about great defense than terrible offense. But

658
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: without Craft, it's hurting them noticeably. Golden was hurt for

659
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: that game. Didn't play some receiver stuff, not been where

660
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: you want it to. Considering how deep that room looked. Again,

661
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: I think they are a Tier two NFC team. They

662
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: could get back into Tier one, but they're not quite

663
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: where you thought they were.

664
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: Going to be.

665
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: You know, them and Bucks similar in that regard. Yeah, yeah,

666
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: still good teams, still dangerous teams, but it's not quite

667
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: looking like the bonafide contender that maybe they did a

668
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: few weeks ago.

669
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I only know who i'd pick out of those two.

670
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: Number eleven oh Packers, but I don't feel super confident.

671
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: In saying it. I think would too.

672
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: Number eleven Matt up three spots highest they've been since

673
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: starting the season three and zero. It's the l A Chargers.

674
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: It was a great win, but something I wanted to

675
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: kind of mention the Tuesday rewind but I think we

676
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: talked about Monday, so I didn't.

677
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean, poor Herbert. I mean he got hit a ton,

678
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: Yes he did, and the ball came.

679
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 4: I mean so many of their passes were immediate screens,

680
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: you know, just I think he threw like thirty percent

681
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: of his passes behind the line of scrimmage in that game,

682
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: because that's all he could do. I mean it was

683
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: either like Maconkey against slot corner or boom, just get

684
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: it out like one of those now screens.

685
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and that's gonna be a tough way to live.

686
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: It's a very tough way to live. Number ten the

687
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Bucket. The aforementioned Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Fun one

688
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: with UH with New England, but they end up on

689
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: the losing end. They dropped just two spots. Nothing crazy,

690
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: down ten.

691
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: I probably both Green Bay and Tampa over the Chargers.

692
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: Agreed. Yeah, agreed slightly, but agreed. Yeah, yeah, down five spots,

693
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: biggest drop of the week. Still in the top ten,

694
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 2: but a lot of questions the Buffalo Bills.

695
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, defense is still a real problem.

696
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: And the offense isn't as high flying as it was

697
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: early in the season.

698
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: No, No, I think they're a receiver away. Still. We've

699
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: been saying that for a while.

700
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: They've been knocking on the door for so long. If

701
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: it takes a step back this year, they prime for

702
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: a shake up, new coaching staff.

703
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

704
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: Maybe, I mean, they've had been so successful, but man,

705
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: it would be a shame.

706
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: Like if Allen never gets to a.

707
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, it would be terrible, terrible.

708
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: It would be terrible. And I give him fifty to

709
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: fifty chance now the rest of his career. Maybe, I mean,

710
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: I mean it's hard to get there, dude, ma home

711
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: goes every year.

712
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: It absolutely is. Yeah, And you know, like Joe Burrow

713
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: is still trying to get back to another one. Yeah,

714
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: Lamar has never been to one.

715
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: Someday we're gonna play a game. C J.

716
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: Strau gonna get to one.

717
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: We're gonna play that game. We're gonna go through every

718
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: quarterback in the league. Ever, we're gonna say yes or no.

719
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: Will this guy ever go to a Super Bowl or

720
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: ever win a Super Bowl? You know, the answer is

721
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: almost always know or even get to one right, Like Lamar,

722
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: you'd be like, oh yeah, Josh allensn't yet.

723
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: If you look a story, he's been one of the

724
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: greatest playoff performers in NFL history.

725
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Work at his numbers right, right, and I give him

726
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: like a fifty percent.

727
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: He's even like been what one AFC Championship game, I think,

728
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: and that's it.

729
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: Think you're right, yeah, fool.

730
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: I think you might have to if you're Buffalo.

731
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: But we go through all the quarterbacks and be like,

732
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: is he gonna ever win a Super Bowl? Those people

733
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: think yes, Like when you draft the guy first overall,

734
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: oh yeah, he'll.

735
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: Probably win a Super Bowl. I probably won't. Probably won't,

736
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: probably won't.

737
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Speaker 2: Number eight, Matt. They're eight and two. Their defense is legit,

738
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: but I think there's some stuff on offense. It's gonna

739
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: catch up with them. It's the Denver Broncos.

740
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd still the Bills ahead of the Broncos.

741
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: I just I hate when people use the term these

742
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: guys are frauds because they're eight and two. Maybe, but

743
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: I think they're I don't think they're quite as good

744
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: as their record says.

745
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: I tend to agree, you know, like I think the

746
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: Bills could win the Super Bowl. I don't think the

747
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: Broncos could win the Super Bowl. Agreed, Yeah, a lot

748
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: of it because the quarterback differential.

749
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree, And if the Broncos defense gets

750
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: certained back and levels up, but I don't think they

751
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: can run the ball successfully enough even if their defense

752
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: is great. Number seven. The Kansas City Chiefs off the

753
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: bye week quiet at the trade deadline, only five and four,

754
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: but still getting that benefit of the doubt.

755
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: I got no problems with that. I'm sure Bills fans

756
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: are like, didn't we just beat them?

757
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: You might have them a spot or two, but maybe

758
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: I'd still have them in the top ten.

759
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. It'd be in that neighborhood.

760
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: Number six. I told you the Bills were the fallst

761
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: the biggest dropper, the largest faller this week, the biggest

762
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: rise of the New England Patriots. They're up five spots

763
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: into the top ten. Number six at eight and two.

764
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I get to eat a little crow

765
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: in that. I thought Tampa was going to slap them

766
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: back down, and.

767
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: They both did on that.

768
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: But I don't think I can have them over the

769
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: Chiefs and Bills or Denver.

770
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 2: Agreed, But I also believe for the purposes of these

771
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: power rankings, you have to go off of house.

772
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: Respect what they're doing. Right.

773
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: There's like they're to me, Matt, there's some like BYU

774
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: and Vanderbilt parallels here. I don't think BYU and Vanderbilt

775
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: are as good as their records say, but they're both

776
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: like nine and one, eight and two and ranked in

777
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: the top twelve. They ked, you know, I think like

778
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: nine and vander builds like twelve, or Vandy's like nine

779
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: and by Us like twelve or something like that. I

780
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: don't think either of those teams are that good.

781
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: Right, Neither one's going to Columbus and beating Ohio State.

782
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: No chance, and one of them my back door into

783
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: the playoff and get their doors completely blown off in

784
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: the first round.

785
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: You know, type you have to rank them off.

786
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: The resume and the way that they're the way that

787
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: they're winning games.

788
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, And frankly, power ranks are a lot like College ranked.

789
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: Totally number five and impressive doing what they do against

790
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: bad teams.

791
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 3: He's all going to be NFC teams.

792
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: The cults are in their stuff.

793
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I know there's four NFC teams. I'm trying

794
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: to go with the Colts.

795
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: Okay Lions up to number five after again doing what

796
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: they do. They they see blood in the water, and

797
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: they feast against bad teams, and they went in there

798
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: and rolled the Commanders.

799
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 4: So I mentioned that we had a conversation after yesterday's

800
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: game about how would you rank the NFC, And I

801
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: think these four teams, Detroit and the other three will

802
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: talk about out are the Tier one teams Tampa and

803
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: green Bay, the Bay of Pigs or the yeah, the

804
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: tiers Team two or the Tier two?

805
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 3: But I went.

806
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay, Tampa, Bay Bay Square.

807
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: I went Rams, Seattle, they watch Philly, they watch then Detroit.

808
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: Rams best Seattle two, Philly, then Detroit.

809
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: And that was who's the best? Right now?

810
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: I agree with the Rams in Seattle, but I also said,

811
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: swat Detroit and Philly. But I don't, I don't, I

812
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: don't hate your order.

813
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I also said, though if I had the best.

814
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: Rams have the best quarterback play of those four, which

815
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: I think puts them at the top for me.

816
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: I think they're the best offense in the conference and

817
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: Seattle's the best defense. But the Rams aren't far off

818
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: I also think they're the best coach and but what

819
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: I did say is on eleven eleven, November eleventh, I

820
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: think the Rams the best team in the NFC.

821
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: But on November eleventh, if I.

822
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: Had to pick who I think will be in the

823
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, I would take the Eagles fair and they're

824
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: gonna win their division, They're gonna host the game, if

825
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: not more. They've been there, done it, and I think

826
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 4: they're trending very much in the.

827
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: It's fair up. I don't have much to ahead of that.

828
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: I think that's well said.

829
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: Number three eight or sorry, number four is the Philadelphia Eagles.

830
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: Pardon me, I didn't want to. I didn't want to

831
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: leap frog them there at seven and two. They check

832
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: in at number four. Gritty, ugly, but gritty win last

833
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: night at a tough place to win.

834
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

835
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see the sign that they installed in

836
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: the Uh? This was pretty cool I saw and maybe

837
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: it's been there before, I don't know, but it's the

838
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: first time I've ever seen it. One of my Eagles

839
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: buddies from back in my Philly days that I follow

840
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: on Twitter tweeted out a picture of it and the

841
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: like tunnel in the hallway from the Packers locker room

842
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: down to the field. They have this big sign on

843
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: the wall that says something along the lines of today

844
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: is somebody's bucket list. Like the sign, the sign basically

845
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: says like, like amongst our fans, like this is a

846
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: bucket list for somebody to be watching a game here

847
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: at lambeau Field. Go out there and play like it.

848
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I play like a champion.

849
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there's fans out here who this is their

850
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: bucket list to be at this game right now, Go

851
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: out there, go out there and that. Don't let them that. Like,

852
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: I forget the exact wording of the sign, but I

853
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 2: thought that was pretty cool. Number three the Indianapolis Colts.

854
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 4: Out of all four the NFC teams ahead of them. Yeah,

855
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: and I'd like the Colts.

856
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: I think they're good. I mean, don't get me wrong,

857
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: And I think he might be right much.

858
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 4: I can't sure I could put Daniel Jones at the

859
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 4: same level as those guys.

860
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Forrest Buckner hitting IRS not great?

861
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: Oh you went to IR. Yeah, and then I definitely would.

862
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: Don't like that they have the Rams at two and

863
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: the Seahawks at one. I think you and I might

864
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: flip flop that. But I also don't have a ton

865
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: of beef with that.

866
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: No, I don't like. Offense is bad.

867
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, And in fact, Dartle didn't play that well

868
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: and they still rolled, which is he didn't have to

869
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: do Yeah, those two two rough fumbles. But I I

870
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: think I think there's a clear we're starting to get

871
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: to a clear line of play.

872
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: This week or next they might play this week.

873
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: We play soon. Yeah, yeah, they do, and that's gonna

874
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: be a couple gonna be a lot of fun. They

875
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 2: do play this week in Seattle four o'clock game, that'll

876
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: be good. We can uh, we can get to that

877
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: after Steelers Bengals. Absolutely, they gotta tell I tell you what.

878
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Speaker 2: The Rams go Seattle and then the Bucks, both at home,

879
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Speaker 2: but back to back. That's that's two tough games there. Yeah,

880
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Speaker 2: they win both of those are definitely gonna be number

881
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Speaker 2: one on the power rankings for sure. One more segment

882
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Speaker 2: to go, Matt, maybe a tweet two. We've also got

883
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Speaker 2: some breaking news out of Cincinnati that I want to

884
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Speaker 2: get to with the side. Yeah, we'll do that when

885
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Speaker 2: we return. Put a bow on this thing. It's the

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Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: You are too.

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Speaker 1: Drive on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Down the home Stretch here final segment of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday in Matt I mentioned some breaking news

892
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: out of Cincinnati. I kind of teased it up a

893
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Speaker 2: little bit. But Zach Taylor just had his weekly press conference.

894
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: He says Trey Hendrickson is listed as doubtful for Sunday's

895
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: contest against the Steelers. Okay, I'll tell you what if

896
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Speaker 2: you go both games against the Bengals without having to

897
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Speaker 2: see Trey Hendrickson, Now, yeah, it goes a long way.

898
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Speaker 2: It goes a long way.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how motivated he is to get out there,

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Speaker 4: to be very honest with you, so.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: I think it's fact, but sometimes you know, like I

903
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: think Schefter put it out, which means this chance star

904
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Speaker 4: is true. But something one of those guys post of

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Speaker 4: this that nobody offered the Bengals a second round pick

906
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Speaker 4: for Hendrickson, and I don't think anyone offered a third with.

907
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Speaker 2: His contract situation. I kind of get it it'd be

908
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Speaker 2: one to go and knew he was going to be

909
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Speaker 2: locked up for the next couple of.

910
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Speaker 4: Years, right, I mean, I think the Bengals plan on franchising,

911
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Speaker 4: which you'll hate, hate, I mean absolutely will hate rightfully.

912
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Speaker 4: So yeah, but it made me also think, like it's

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Speaker 4: easy to blame the Bengals in these contract negotiations, but

914
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Speaker 4: maybe he's overvaluing himself. You know, like, if you're the Lions,

915
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Speaker 4: I want to trade for him. He probably wanted to

916
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Speaker 4: extend him. If you're going to give up yes, second

917
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Speaker 4: or something.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it'd be one thing if you're a contender and

919
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Speaker 2: you could have gotten him for a fifth or sixth

920
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Speaker 2: round pick. Okay, fine, yeah, we'll rent him for the

921
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Speaker 2: rest of the year. He could be the difference in

922
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Speaker 2: us getting to or winning a Super Bowl. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you want to extend him, you're like, I'm not

924
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Speaker 2: giving up a second or third round pick and paying

925
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Speaker 2: him thirty some million dollars a year, right.

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Speaker 4: And I also think that the report also mentioned some

927
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Speaker 4: injury stuff, you know that maybe there's maybe he's not

928
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Speaker 4: passing physicals easily right now.

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Speaker 2: And I think he was banged up coming into the season.

930
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Speaker 2: He was, he was certainly and hey, maybe when it's

931
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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons and he's still only twenty five years old.

932
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Speaker 2: You'll take a risk on a guy that's got some

933
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Speaker 2: lingering injury stuff, but another one, you're the.

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Speaker 4: Other teams the league are pretty smart. They might be like,

935
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Speaker 4: he's on the decline, you know, even though he came

936
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Speaker 4: off a great SAX season. Absolutely, what's he have left?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get to one tweet here Matt that

939
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Speaker 2: I thought was pertinent to kind of tea up tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Rwake Henderson was doubtful.

941
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Speaker 2: Doubtful. Listen, it is doubtful to play this.

942
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Speaker 3: Out Tuesdays almost nine. Boy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlins said that they're going to prepare as if

944
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Speaker 2: he is playing. But I, like you said, do what

945
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Speaker 2: I think from his standpoint, why would he want to?

946
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Speaker 3: Right right motivation?

947
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: All he's going to do is potentially hurt his earning

948
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Speaker 2: power this offseason. A tweet here from Paul Matt, like

949
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: I said, to get us out of here, this kind

950
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Speaker 2: of tease up a conversation we'll have tomorrow. But Paul says,

951
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if the master plan for twenty twenty six

952
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: is starting to crumble. Quarterback class not looking as great

953
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Speaker 2: as we thought it was going to be, and a

954
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Speaker 2: lot of other teams ahead of us that need quarterbacks

955
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Speaker 2: or hold two first round picks.

956
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it should be harder than we thought.

957
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Speaker 3: I do too.

958
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Speaker 2: But I'll also say this and we'll get more to

959
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: the I've got the stats, Pat get done. If you're

960
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, I've got it done here already. For

961
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: the college stuff, beefy, We'll have a beefy around campus

962
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Speaker 2: quarterback conversation tomorrow for that. I mentioned this last week.

963
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Speaker 2: There was a time in this timeline where I thought

964
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: there was going to be maybe five, six, seven first

965
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Speaker 2: round draft picks a quarterback. I don't think that number

966
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Speaker 2: is going to be as high now. I think it's

967
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: going to be like two or three, maybe four. But

968
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Speaker 2: I am much more intrigued by the middle class of

969
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks now than I have been, honestly, and probably.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. There's still a lot of names.

971
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Speaker 2: And I know you have brought up the history of it,

972
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: and it's it's spot on of quarterbacks drafted from like

973
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Speaker 2: twenty twentieth overall, it's like Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers

974
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Speaker 2: and Lamar Lamar.

975
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: But I mean, but they always something weird going on.

976
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: He was David Derek Carr was in that right. Russell

977
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: Wilson didn't count either Dak Prescott because they were further back.

978
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: I think it's Rogers Love and Lamar, two of whom

979
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: sat forever, and the other guy.

980
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: Some people thought it was a wide receiver, but I am.

981
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: I am more open to finding a Dak Prescott or

982
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: a Russell Wilson third or fourth round guy in this

983
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: class that I've been in years. I think a lot

984
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: of the Brendan robb the Sawyer Robinson's that I just

985
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: combined Brendan Sawyer, Robertson and Brendan Soresby into one person. There.

986
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: Brendan Robertson a lot of those type of guys that

987
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Speaker 2: might not be first round picks, but I think are

988
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: very intriguing. I think our guy Mateer could fall into

989
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: this category as well too.

990
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: Makes sense.

991
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: So while I don't think there's gonna be the wow,

992
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: there could be five quarterbacks, you know, just like a

993
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, five quarterbacks taken in the top fifteen.

994
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: Like maybe I thought coming into this year, those guys

995
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: that are going to be in like the thirty two

996
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: to seventy eighty range. I'm way more intrigued by than

997
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 2: any year previously in a long time.

998
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: That's really exciting.

999
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: And what I will add to that is again I

1000
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: don't I haven't broke these dudes down. But if you're

1001
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Speaker 4: saying that there, they'll all go a little higher than

1002
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 4: you're saying always, you know what I mean, Like you're

1003
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Speaker 4: always I'm.

1004
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Speaker 3: Interested in that guy in the third round, Like, well,

1005
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Speaker 3: you better take him in.

1006
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Speaker 2: Tech. I'd really like him as a project, right Boom

1007
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Speaker 2: he goes fortieth overall.

1008
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Speaker 4: Exactly right, right, I mean like bo Nix is gonna

1009
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Speaker 4: go fortieth overall and then he goes sixteenth or whatever.

1010
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Speaker 2: Like how it was this year after the first this

1011
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: past year you had cam Ward and Jackson Dart in

1012
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: the first round, then you had.

1013
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Speaker 3: Shuck was next?

1014
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: I think was that this past year? Was that too?

1015
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Speaker 3: Was that Shuck's a rookie?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

1017
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So of those guys.

1018
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Speaker 2: He had Chuck and then Gabriel in the third round.

1019
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Speaker 3: Right him or milroem Milroy.

1020
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Speaker 2: But then from that standpoint there was a massive gap

1021
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: until you got into the sixth round Howard and you

1022
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: got to the Howards and the Kyle Accords and those

1023
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: guy exactly. There's not gonna be that gap.

1024
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Speaker 4: There's gonna be a lot that There's gonna be a

1025
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Speaker 4: lot in that range.

1026
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Speaker 2: And so again that's something we'll expand upon tomorrow. A

1027
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Speaker 2: lot of you we've loved it. We've gotten tweets about

1028
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Speaker 2: what about Soresby from Cincinnati? What about Robertson from Baylor?

1029
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Speaker 2: What about Hayes King from Georgia Tech.

1030
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Speaker 3: That's super cool though, that all these names are popping up.

1031
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Speaker 2: We're gonna get into them all tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

1033
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Speaker 2: It'll be maybe the beefiest around campus segment that we've

1034
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Speaker 2: had so far this year. And my list of like

1035
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Speaker 2: you must watch your games to keep an eye on

1036
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Speaker 2: on Saturday is I think bigger than it's been all year.

1037
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Speaker 2: There's some This is one of the better I think

1038
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: college football slates, particularly from a evaluating it from a

1039
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: quarterback standpoint as well too. So we'll do all of

1040
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Speaker 2: that tomorrow, catch up with Chris hallick uh, start to

1041
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: get into some of Matt's stats, all that good stuff

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Speaker 2: on a Wednesday. Thanks to Chris Adanski for joining us today.

1043
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Speaker 2: Thanks to Tyler V Mister TV for video producing everything

1044
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 2: on the YouTube side of things, and a big shout

1045
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Speaker 2: out too. Of course he's not the Bard of Bourbon,

1046
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Speaker 2: but we're gonna come up with a name at some point.

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, I'm West Shouler, take care of everybody. Will

1048
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Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow. As always. You know where to

1049
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Speaker 2: find us. It's on your twenty four to seven home

1050
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: of the Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.