1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, single best. 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: Idea maybe in ompteen months. This was the hardest day 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: to pick two moments to speak of. It was absolutely 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: an extraordinary show on economics, finance, investment, on international relations. 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Thank you Mick Mulroy of the Lobo Institute with his 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: public service to the Marines and to the CIA for 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: his perspective on all of our geopolitics and our military 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: people at risk every day worldwide. He was just absolutely phenomenal. 9 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: And the list goes on. And I thought Jordan Rochester 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: representing Missoo the Great Japanese Bank, was just spellbinding on 11 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: how things have changed. Finally there's a legitimate inflation and 12 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: animal spirit than Japan. That's a stunning comment. Literally going 13 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: back thirty years, Michael Data joined us with Ross Capital Management. 14 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: We talked to Michael Data just simply about the path forward. 15 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: Over any extended period of time, corporations will adjust. I 16 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: think they can be flexible. But the question is what 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: does that mean for the business cycle in risk markets? 18 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: Because if the adjustment is that we see a pickup 19 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: in layoffs, which seemed to be happening, you know, you 20 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: could end up with some economic dislocations here in that 21 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: transition that are associated with a fairly significant equity market correction. 22 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: Now to Paul's question, the consumers held in there? Why 23 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: a lot of the consumer spending is driven by high 24 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: income households that have been riding high on this huge 25 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: stock market rally which is now flickering and flagging in 26 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: a labor market that has come in and blown expectations, 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: you know, off the wall in terms of being you 28 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: know wrong and you know, sustainably robust payroll growth and 29 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: that could also be under threat. Now, so yes, the 30 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: corporations will adjust, but the question is what does that 31 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: mean for risk markets in the business cycle. 32 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: In the interim, Michael Dirda of Capital Francis Donald was 33 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: with us as well, really back to back with the 34 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: Bank of Montreal and Ian Lingott and then to Francis 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: Donald with the Royal Bank of Canada RBC Capital Markets. 36 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: Late in the conversation Francis Donald of Montreal and of 37 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: her Canada on tariffs and the way Canada helps us 38 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: each and every day. 39 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: Canada provides sixty percent of oil imports to the United States, 40 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: ninety percent of electricity imports, ninety nine percent of natural 41 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: gas eighty five percent of potash, ninety percent of canola, 42 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: thirty four percent of your meat, and let's not forget 43 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: critical minerals, which is nineteen percent of US imports. Twenty 44 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: seven percent of your uranium imports come from Canada. Canada 45 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: helps to heat the United States, it helps to feed 46 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: the United States, and this is not twenty eighteen anymore. 47 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: The US is struggling under an electrical grid and has 48 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: substantial energy needs that Canada can help to rectify. So 49 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 4: I think the focus should be on how much can 50 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: Canada support US exceptionalism going forward and what is the 51 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: upside of actual increased collaboration between the two countries. That's 52 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: the story that I think will resonate because President Trump 53 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 4: has huge ambition for what the US economy can be common. 54 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: There is a lot of upside for the US as well. 55 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: Canada upside equals US upside. We spent a lot of 56 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: time thinking that Canada benefits from the United States. The 57 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: reverse is also true, and we got to push that narrative, 58 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: not just for Canadians but for Americans as well. 59 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: Bottle it Francis Donald, RBC Capital Markets. We're on YouTube, 60 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: Go out to YouTube podcasts, This is single best idea. 61 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: I knew then that people were in the danger