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Speaker 1: then people will look at my arms, and I like

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00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: my arm. I mean, I would say, even if you're

426
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: dressing for yoursel, if you're still making choices about other people,

427
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: because it's like, just like anything that you do visually,

428
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: whether that's like tattoos, grooming, like whatever, it's, you are

429
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: intrinsically projecting a message. Like people that are like, oh,

430
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about fashion, I don't care

431
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: about clothes at all are completely lying because if you

432
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: gave that person a clown students like wear this around,

433
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: they'd be like fuck no. Yeah, it's like, no, you

434
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: actually do care, but what you care about is is

435
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: attempting to blend in or be ignored basically that So

436
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: like what I would say is that, like I think,

437
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that you were wearing what

438
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: you wanted to wear all along, but what you want,

439
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: but what you wanted has changed. You're actually right, And

440
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: I think that also, as you've gotten a stronger idea

441
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: of who you are and what your values are, you're

442
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: more comfortable making like assertive decisions about do you put

443
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: on your body and how you represent yourself. Because it's

444
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: interesting because to hear you talk about like a to

445
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: all my like garbage ship to wear her Fire Island,

446
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: it's like that is as a choice, Yeah, hell yeah,

447
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: because it's like listen, we're going to be there during

448
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: the fucking Pines party when it's just gonna be like like,

449
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: I mean, are we going? No? Are you I think

450
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: about I mean, of course, like yeah, if I had

451
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: any sort of presentable body, I would absolutely But there's

452
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: no such thing as a summer body. Ye. Well, as

453
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: I treated earlier the body when I was like I

454
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the beach is gonna get whatever body

455
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: I give it and then like an actress like drags

456
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: a heavy plastic bag through the beach at night. You know, yeah,

457
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. The body positivity thing is really interesting

458
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: to me because it is. It's fascinating because I don't

459
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm I think I might have talked about this when

460
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: I did seek treatment. Sorry if no, no, it's okay,

461
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: I did see treatment. That's actually okay. Just because like

462
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: like in is sort of like forever Dog Cannon. I

463
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: don't know whether I'm allowed to like say like, oh,

464
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: this happened before that, because I'm sort of not the writer,

465
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: so universe, you're making a lot of rules right now,

466
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: we're going to let that slow kidding, but say what

467
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is just that like this whole

468
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: body positivity thing like blows my mind because I'm sort

469
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: of like if people are comfortable comfortable with their bodies,

470
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm sort of like, okay, are you lying to me

471
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: or to yourself? Because I truly am like I'm sorry,

472
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like I'm just willing to say that,

473
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm an intelligent, like self aware person

474
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: who was like struggled with body ship my whole life.

475
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: I was overweight for a long period of my upbringing,

476
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: and like I just don't when people are like, you know,

477
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: one day, I just made a choice, and now I'm like,

478
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: you know, this is the body that I have and

479
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: and and I'm happy with it, and I'm just sort

480
00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: of like you made a choice, city happy choice. It's

481
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: like one day I just decided this life is mine

482
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna you know. It's like, what are

483
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: you talking about? You know what I mean? That was

484
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 1: the people's what what what? Bumps with you? What? What? What? What? Like? What? Like? Um,

485
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: like it's not I get what you're saying. Like it's

486
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: like like as if like happiness and like full acceptance

487
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: of yourself and to leave that entire conversation just like

488
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: what do you have? How did you do that? It's

489
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: like did you okay? It's like, oh, you mix two

490
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: eggs and like you know, show them to get It's like,

491
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: what do you do to achieve the fucking because I'm

492
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: in I've been in therapy for a long fucking time now.

493
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: It's like the height of my privilege and blindness. I

494
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: used to say to people in my life, well, you

495
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: have to make the choice to be happy, which is

496
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: like a crazy thing, like and I grew up with

497
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: that stranger because I was brought up in like a

498
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: neo Buddhist. It's a call, but I mean it's a

499
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: it's a harm on this call. But but like so

500
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: much of the like burbage in my family was about

501
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: just like you have to yeah, happiness, happiness, you have

502
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: to achieve happiness, and like she was happiness and it's

503
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: just like, what are you talking about, Like it wasn't

504
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Buddhist thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was part of

505
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: the I don't even know what to call it, the

506
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: sor It wasn't hard it was. It was called Soca

507
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Gawkai International. It's just like Japanese based, like a neo

508
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: Buddhist organization. They well, I don't know this about you.

509
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: All of my baby photos are like literally like it's

510
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: like five Japanese women surrounding like a man in like

511
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: a kimono holding me with like in a tuxedo, and

512
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: it's like my baby photos are just psycho were born

513
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: earlier this, Yeah, I know I was. I was born

514
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. Great, but then this was this was

515
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: just like some contingent from this Buddhist cult. Yeah. In

516
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: Japan was just in yeah, yeah, so's they're just like

517
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: they're like this like international organization. They I think they

518
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: call themselves like a World peace organization. They're totally harmless.

519
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: They're in every city of their chill cool. They're not

520
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: taking money from people. You know, it's fine the people

521
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: that are happy, good people in it. But you know,

522
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: but it is by definition like a culture, and then

523
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: define a cult um. It's sort of based on like

524
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: basically like the like the size, like you can't really

525
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: call it an official religion. And also think and also

526
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: there's just so many so much debate about whether like

527
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: Buddhism is a religion or whatever, market or anyway, and

528
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: then growing around that, there's always some narrative around attaining

529
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: happiness and that that to you is just like that

530
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: makes no sense. That's me. And for so long I

531
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, of course, like so you know, every birthday,

532
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: like you know, blow my Camila and be like I

533
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: wish for a life full of happiness. And it's like

534
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking back then and I'm just like, what the

535
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: funk was I even talking about? Well, I always find

536
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: that like it's like with the it's like similar to

537
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: the American Dream thing where it's like attaining happiness as

538
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: like the goal or attaining the American Dream. Really that's

539
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: a way for whatever organization or sort of culture you're

540
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: a part of, that's their way of getting you to

541
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: follow their rules, and that's your that's essentially it's a

542
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: way to keep you in a system that they benefit

543
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: from having you in. And can they say these things

544
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: that actually are grand ideas, like achieve the American Dream

545
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: or attain happiness or go to heaven. And it's like

546
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: these things that you don't have an answer for, but

547
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: you follow because that's what you've been told to follow.

548
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: And you're right, it is and it's happenings such a

549
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: weird thing. It's like yeah, because it's when somebody says

550
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: like are you Like if I was like, mat, are

551
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: you happy? How would you answer that? I would say? Wow?

552
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: That's because because you know what, happiness is always going

553
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: to be abstract. You're no one is ever going to

554
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: people to pin down a definition of happiness with words

555
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: or with any linguistic concept to match it with. Yeah, well,

556
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like is usually like sometimes like yeah, sometimes

557
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: I am like you're always at all times going to

558
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: be a human being who's capable and will experience all

559
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: of the emotions. Are the vast majority of human beings

560
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: right able to experience all emotions? Anyway? And so this

561
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: thing of like are you happy? Sure, Like I can

562
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: acknowledge that I live every day and I'm lucky that

563
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm able to eat and live and have people that

564
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: I love in my life, and like I get to

565
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: do what I want to do. So yes, I am happy. However,

566
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: are there things that upset me? Yes? Absolutely? Can I

567
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: do I end days? Do I end days miserable even

568
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: though I have no reason to be? Yes, Like, sometimes

569
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: that does happen. So it's it's a weird question. Yeah,

570
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: I know it's yeah, what are you gonna say? Well,

571
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying about happiness as it really

572
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: like body positivity, is that it's like and I think,

573
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: I think, I think this is what you're saying. I

574
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: agree with it really really hard is that? Um ah,

575
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: Like appealing to happiness is just a cop out. It's

576
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: just like I decided to be happy. It's like no,

577
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: you like you're pinning a lot of your escaping actually

578
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: reckoning with something that you're that you were unhappy with

579
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: with some like amorphous definition of happiness and like that's

580
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: not actually well basically, I'm just like I think that

581
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: in order to have like a sense of body positivity

582
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: or even like happiness sort of like like you sort

583
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: of have to be able to completely shed the the

584
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: need to like please others, which basically means like shedding shame,

585
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: which is by definition, basically a personality. So you know,

586
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: so like I don't believe that you can kind of

587
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: like just like have these things without like without something

588
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: being sort of wrong with you know, although I think

589
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: that there are ways to completely edit this out. We're

590
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: onto something anyway, We're onto something, So that's not quite

591
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: it what you just said. I think, like I think that, um,

592
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: there are ways to like push the shame back or

593
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: something to keep it at bay. But it's like you're

594
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: you'd be kidding yourself if you're saying, yeah, you know.

595
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: It's like like there there are older they're like old

596
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: people that are like, you know, I'm fine like or whatever,

597
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: like I'm happy with what I am. But I think

598
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: like even those people are sort of just like at

599
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: a point where it's like either they've just like given

600
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: up or or they're just sort of. I mean a

601
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: lot of people just like push it down and just

602
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think something that comes with

603
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: age is the awareness that no one is thinking about

604
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: you as much as you're thinking about yourself. That is

605
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: something that helps me, is like realizing that like you can.

606
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: Like I remember when I was I was in l

607
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: A for a while, and I had a lot of

608
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: social anxiety when I first got there, and I would

609
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: literally sit in my house and be like I'm not

610
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: going to go out because I'm too scared, like truly weird,

611
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: Like in my dark moments, I actually get a little

612
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: socially anxious a little bit and like um so, and

613
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: sometimes I won't leave my house if I feel like

614
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be too much of an effort. And

615
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: when I was first out in Los Angeles, I thought that,

616
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: and I remember like changing my clothes a lot and

617
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: like really wanting to like be the best version of myself.

618
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: And then one day I was kind of like, this

619
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: is crazy that I'm doing this because no one cares

620
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: as much as I care, Like you know what I mean,

621
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Like I'll show up to a thing, people will say

622
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: hello to me, and then like we'll all talk or

623
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: we all won't and like everything will happen. And also

624
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: we're tiny little specks of dust at the end of

625
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: the day, like no one really I love you able

626
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: to do that, I consider that lying to myself because

627
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: because like you know, okay, so I go to the

628
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Planet Fitness, and I mean, this is like something that

629
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: I've said on stage, So I apologize for repeating like

630
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: a joke that I've like said on stage or whatever.

631
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: But like there's like all these signs all over the

632
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: gym that are like like judgment, Like honey, like I'm

633
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: proof that that's not true because I'm here dodging everybody.

634
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: So like, so yes, that's like an fabulous monsitor to have.

635
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: And like when I try to do that to myself,

636
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: it like it's like a temporary salve. And then I'm

637
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: just like, well, you know, actually I go out and

638
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: I am like judging. You know, it's like it's like

639
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: not outllowed, but you judge equals, but you judging people

640
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: like it has no real effect on them. I think

641
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: that's what right, right, right? And also and also it's

642
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: like we dip in and out of these thoughts. It's

643
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: like sometimes they dip in and I'm like, and I'm

644
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: like this person for like doing that, like wearing that

645
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: persons and then like I talked to them and it's like, oh,

646
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: I love you, you know, and then and then maybe

647
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: like something else happens. I'm like, actually, it's like here's

648
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: here's something I want to throw out. And if someone,

649
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: if someone talks shit about you, do you want to know,

650
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: because I'll say this, I do not. And so I'm

651
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: sort of seeing someone and like one of our friends

652
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: talked bad ship about another one of our friends and

653
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: they found out, and so I will tell you. And

654
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: so like I was saying that it is my worst

655
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: nightmare to find out that people that I like in

656
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: respect have said mean things about me. And it's just

657
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: what I said, and I said, I said, and I

658
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: would say to you and to you in any of

659
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: my friends, I would say, if you ever hear someone

660
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: talking about me, But dear God, I do not want

661
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: to know. You. Just let me live in a world

662
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: where like that's that's fine. Unless it's like really harmful

663
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: and I'm being lied to on a consistent basis and

664
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: it's dangerous, then like let's have a conversation about it,

665
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: because maybe it's something that that person needs help with.

666
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: But like, I really truly do not want to know

667
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: when someone talks about me. What say you guys about that?

668
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that I kept this a comedy podcast,

669
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: by the way, No, this is a culture podcast, you

670
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: stupid bit. You're I'm such a dumb, stupid bit. You

671
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: absolutely stink. I'm a stinky dune stupid bitch. And I

672
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: smell like how that's what question? Because I I am

673
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, I think what about your max about Wait,

674
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about you. I want to I want to know.

675
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: You want to know as has that? Has that benefited

676
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: you in the past? As you think? Can you think

677
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: of a Mortal Kombat used to stay in the opening

678
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: of the game, and I used to turn on the game,

679
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, you just have midway or whatever, and then

680
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: there'd be a little quotation in those like spiky Gold

681
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: that is in it said knowledge is power. That's what

682
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: the old Mortal So you know what I believe knowledge

683
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: is power. Yeah, but I guess I don't need power

684
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: in knowledge. Knowledge can be destructive power, That's what I'm saying.

685
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you are you know what

686
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: is your sign? Gemini. I know that's what everybody says. No,

687
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: because I was lying and I'm actually Leah, I did this.

688
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: I did this to a guy once that I was dating,

689
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: and he what are you? I'm a Gemini. I was

690
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm totally kidding. Why are you actually stopping Gemini.

691
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: I have the same birthday as the oldsen twins, the

692
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: same to the year. No, oh my god, you think

693
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: three now I'm two. Wait, Oh my god, Gemini are

694
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: twins and are twins? Oh my god. Huge. We just

695
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: broke it all open and that cycle culture. Listen, Um,

696
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: we have to ask you the question. This question is

697
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: what is the culture is for the culture that made

698
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: you say, oh it's time to go in the cultural direction. Okay,

699
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: So I've thought about this a couple briefly times, A

700
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: couple a couple briefly times, and it's a little bit

701
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: difficult for me to answer because so like you, you

702
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: can you can have multiple Landska. So this is, oh

703
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: my god, whatever what I just gonna go for it.

704
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: So it's like, Okay, I grew up in Los Angeles

705
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: in a neo Buddhist it's cult. My mother was like

706
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: a designer and like stylist. There's photos of her with

707
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: like Demi Moore styling her on like strip tease. My

708
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: father was like O G. Groundling, second city dude, writer

709
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: for cartoons and stuff. You can't like ask a fish

710
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: about the water because I was just surrounded all the

711
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: but I can tell you about the moment that I

712
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: was able to sort of step out for him for yeah,

713
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: And I think I think you and I might have

714
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: talked about this briefly in my place once I was

715
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: watching Tiny Tunes and the Babs character. I think he

716
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: used to do these like impressions sometimes where she would

717
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: just like turn into like a diva or something. Not

718
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: looking back on it, I now realized she was doing

719
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: a sort of like share impression, but of course that

720
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: at that age I had no idea what it was saying.

721
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: But I sort of clocked it as a moment where

722
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I get the even though I

723
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on. And I was like, Okay,

724
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm okay, you know, I mean, like obviously not in

725
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: so many words, but but it was like, Okay, there's

726
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: something about this that rings true with a core part

727
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: of me that I don't I haven't interacted. It was

728
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: baby's first postmodernism. You know what I mean, it's yep,

729
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: I have this is not like a fully formed question

730
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: that I have, but like, this is such a dumb

731
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: shut up. This is such a common thing with so

732
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: many where um, it's like a chicken or the egg

733
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: thing where it's like did is it something like is

734
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: it nature? Nature? Well? Know? Is it like? Is it

735
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: that like this thing has a queer intention or a

736
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: queer brush behind it? And so that's why I like

737
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: you respond to or do you respond? You know what

738
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is it something? Is there some interior mechanism

739
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: that you have even as a kid that you're like

740
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: whoa that you're like was something wrong with me? Or

741
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: was something wrong with that? And it made something yeah

742
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: kind of well I don't even know if, but I

743
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: get why you say wrong, and I do. I I

744
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: agree with what you're saying. It's I think the question.

745
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: I know, No, I think the question is like is

746
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: queerness like more than sexual? Is it also? Like what

747
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's intrinsically cultural and in a way, you

748
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like, is it is it like

749
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: because I remember like there because I think people can

750
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: grow up and be like really deeply like not queer

751
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: while also being homosexual. You know what I mean, well,

752
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: or but but it is part of the repressed but

753
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: as part of the repressing of the homosexually also also

754
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: repressing those cultural instincts. I mean, like like you know

755
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. What I'm saying, it's like because I

756
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: remember I had the same sort of stuff with um.

757
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm like I would listen to like Margaret Show albums

758
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: and like Sandra Bernhard and no no like but like

759
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: I went't back. But when I think I realized that

760
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: was gay. But when you say, like I don't get

761
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: the jokes, but I get them. That kind of thing.

762
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: I remember like seeing like Alicia Silverstone and clueless and

763
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: like something about her like state of being. I was like,

764
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: I'm that y, it's a state of iron. It's a

765
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: state of of I mean camps. As much as I

766
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: hate to say camp, yeah, yeah, it's it's but it's

767
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: a question. It's like because because you don't know what

768
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: your sexuality is at five, but you know you want to.

769
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, what's the crazy thing I always think of,

770
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: Like I remember seeing the commercial for Scream, like with

771
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore running an So wait, Justice said Scream there

772
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: was a thunder strike outside. Did you hear that? That was?

773
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: That was? And I did that? Yeah, I did that.

774
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: I know. I just wanted to bring your attention to

775
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, I remember seeing like the commercial for

776
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: Scream and my instinct being I wish someone would chase

777
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: me around. Oh my god. I would always like I

778
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: remember like when I would play Mario Kart and I'm

779
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: like or like Mario games like and Peach would be

780
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: like in the Castle, like taken by Bowser. I was

781
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: always like, I wish someone would come rescue me, would

782
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: come snatch me away. I had like a thing where

783
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: I was like I wanted to be Was that was it?

784
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: I wish someone would rescue me? Or is I wish

785
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: someone would kidnap me? I think it might have been different. Well,

786
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: in order to be rescued, you've got to be kidnapped

787
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: to a whole thing. It's act in the in order

788
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: to be rescued, you have to be kidnapped. That's so fun.

789
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: I remember like it was a thing with me. I

790
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe I played this game and

791
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: I have to be like the person such a hot thought.

792
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: That's a child thought. Well for me during six Remember

793
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: the opening is Peach send a letter to Mario, please

794
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: come over to the castle for a cake, for a cake,

795
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: for a special, for special Peach cake. And I was like,

796
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: I wish I had the remarces in the access to

797
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: not only to invite someone to come to my house

798
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: for the for the for that cake that I made

799
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: that is my expression of my love for them, Yeah,

800
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: and also to be desirable enough that the answer to

801
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: that invitation would be yes, that question and I'll traverse

802
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: the plane to get to you. And that for a

803
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: dragon Cooper creature to kidnap me and hid and invade

804
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: my home snatch my Peach. I think there is something

805
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: about there is something to snatch my piece. There's something

806
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: about I don't know what it was, but I always

807
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: wanted to be Peach, Like I had this thing like

808
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I want someone to come rescue me.

809
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: I think it's because I think it's because I was

810
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: born like as a as a like a little boy,

811
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, like you're you're, you're, you are forced into

812
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: a role of being like the suggressor. And when you

813
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: don't feel that way, you look at the things in

814
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: media that are like what's what's not that? What's not that?

815
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so interesting. My whole thing was

816
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: absolutely wanting to be like just like a venomous like villain.

817
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: All I ever want, All I ever wanted was to

818
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: be I mean like this obviously the second I saw

819
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: like Michelle fi first, when I was like huge, I

820
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: was just gonna say that I had. You know, my

821
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: dad was very supportive. He bought me a whip when

822
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: I was a kid because I asked for one, and

823
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: I would just like walk around like whipping things off

824
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: my shelves and ship and like I was like so

825
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: into like throwing daggers and like poison. You know, It's

826
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: like all I ever want, All I ever wanted was

827
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: to be like a fucking fem fatale, like vile, villainous count.

828
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: Do you think that that developed like as you aged

829
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: a little bit like and floring or was it always

830
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: like that? What do you mean you like? Did you?

831
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: Because for me, it started with wanted to be the

832
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: damsel in distress and then being like, oh wait, there's

833
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: actually power and being the fatality. Because at age five,

834
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: my first video game was Mortal Kombat and from day

835
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: from day no, I mean Sonya, Yeah, sure, I mean

836
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: her kicks are fabulous, but like, no, like Natana. You know,

837
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: it's like from day one, I was like Heel's corset blades,

838
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: blood give me like and I just I was like

839
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: so into just the like absolute like violent hunting, noess

840
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: of it all. Yeah, I remember, oh my god, like

841
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: chun Lee and Ship all these games was such a

842
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: fighting game. Horn. Did you guys play um, the Golden

843
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: Eye shooter game Golden Eye? Oh my god? Yes? Were

844
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: you in Italia or Zenia? Probably? I can't remember that.

845
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: The Natalia was more of like the this was the

846
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: bond girl and Zenia well they were both bond girls,

847
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: but but Zenia was the true fatality. It didn't matter

848
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: to me, I don't think, because I could never see

849
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: myself in that game. It's just like the hands, right.

850
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: You need to have your identity affirmed in a video game,

851
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: like in a mirror or something, or in a third

852
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: person sort of overhead or like isometric. If I'm going

853
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: to be like fucking kicking someone's ass, I want to

854
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: see my fucking legs split into the air. Is it

855
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: fucked up that my character right now? And find Fantasy fourteen,

856
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: which is an mm O is like like a human

857
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: male because I've gotten so much that the more, oh

858
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: my god, the more the older that I've gotten, I'm

859
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I think I just want to be

860
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: I think I just want to be a white dude. No,

861
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Like for a while there was like I want to

862
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: stare at a hot body. SIMS was the beginning of

863
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: that for me, Like playing the SIMS and be like, oh, yeah,

864
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: I can get mods to make them naked when they

865
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: get into the hot time. All this game is is

866
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: just making porn, and all the adults and the sims

867
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: one at least the adult men were all like jacked

868
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: and repped. Yeah. I really fell into instance too. And

869
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: that's definitely when I was just like, two, you can

870
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: make them work out and they would get better bodies,

871
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: like their forms have changed. But but I was never

872
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: even I didn't even care about that. On the floor,

873
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: I didn't even care about that. I would just it

874
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: was just like I would just like make a face

875
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: and like and I'd be like, oh, maybe I'm try

876
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: making a different type of hot guy face, and then

877
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: it just turned into the same hot guy face you know.

878
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, this is you know you because you like,

879
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna really just really go for it, switch it up,

880
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: and then you would end up with the same hot

881
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: guy face. Oh that's so fucking funny. Damn. I would

882
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: never consciously play it as a male character. Always, if

883
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: I have the choice, I'm always because because my backups.

884
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: If I wasn't, if I wasn't feeling the female characters,

885
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: then I would choose whatever, like the slyest, most like

886
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Ninja esque. Mail was the one that was like sort

887
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: of like fat, like speedy, a shadow you know, maybe

888
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: had like daggers or something right right right, the fee

889
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: possessed like not strength, but like agility exactly right, spryness.

890
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: So now but you're you're you're talking about just fatals,

891
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I have to change my character

892
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: to us a fucking hot K know, you should do whatever,

893
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, because now I'm like, I need to see

894
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: that as my I need to know what it's like

895
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: to be to control that in a way, to have

896
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: that be like my an extension of myself. Well, I

897
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I mean, it's probably just like how

898
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: Matt is more comfortable with with like the things that

899
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: he like is dressing. And now I think similarly, as

900
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: we've become more comfortable with ourselves and more understanding of

901
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: like our internal systems, and we're probably more comfortable just

902
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: playing dudes like male dude. Like I'm just I'm getting

903
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: bored of it now where I'm just like I want

904
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: to be a fucking like like the people have tweeted

905
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: me like the new expansion of Face Origin you can

906
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: play his VI which are these sexy gorgeous women with

907
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: with rabbit ears. Oh yeah, and they're based on the

908
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: like Final Fantasy fran France what it was, fran Um

909
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: So you can so, And I'm like, yeah, why aren't

910
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: I this fucking sexy rabbit lady. Like now I'm just

911
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: have to be literally money a playboy bunny, like like

912
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: a full it's like an anthem from Faced Rabbit. Maybe

913
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: not maybe not that's not the exact No, that'sinology. But anyway,

914
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: I love that you love attals. Yeah, I mean it was, yeah,

915
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: it was like very very huge to me growing up

916
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: and like like I was obsessed to like you know,

917
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: I watched x Men a lot when I was a kid,

918
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: and I was obsessed with rogue. Yeah that's a running

919
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: theme that Rogue is like a standout character. Well, and

920
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: I have theories about you guys, we're going to get electrocuted. No,

921
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: but I literally we were Boone and I were walking

922
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: the other day on the street and like I for

923
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: some reason, I got like irrationally frightened that we're gonna

924
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: get struck by Wait, every single time there's a thunderstorm,

925
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna get struck by light I've never

926
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: felt that way, but this one time, remember we were

927
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: walking on the street and there was a thing of

928
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: there was like a lightning strike, and you know that

929
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: feeling of like when there's a lightning strike and you

930
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: hear no thing. That to me is like that strikes fear.

931
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: That strikes fear in me because I'm like, how loud

932
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: is it going to be? In words are coming? But

933
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: I I've never felt that way, and I think it

934
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: might be because I've been without rain and thunder so

935
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: much for the past six months. There was a time

936
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: when I was like eighteen or nineteen and I was

937
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: drinking at nighttime on the beach with my friends in

938
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: Santa Monica and we were like getting high or whatever,

939
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: and off in the distance over the water. There was

940
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: a single like lightning strike and we were all like

941
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: stoned and drunk, cross faded and uh, and we were like,

942
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's crazy. And then like there was

943
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: another one, and then like a few more, and they

944
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: seemed to be like getting kind of closer, and we're like,

945
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is kind of and then before long,

946
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: my god, there was like lightning strikes. There just seemed

947
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: to be happening like right in front of us in

948
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: a theater and like happening around us, and we were

949
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: all completely stoned, but like in a way where we

950
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: were like, oh, this is magical, not in any sort

951
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: of way that we should have been with like this

952
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: is threat. You know. We were like this incredible and beautiful.

953
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: And I remember that night we got up and left

954
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: shortly after it stopped because I was because we were

955
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: just like, it's not going to get more magical than this.

956
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: And I walked him and on the way home, a

957
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: moth flew into my mouth while I was stoned. And

958
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: that was the second time that a moth has flown

959
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: into my mouth while I was stoned. Honestly, this is

960
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: that That story is That story is Cordine no star,

961
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: no finish, just sort of an ambition. It did remind me.

962
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: Do you know the original ending in Sweet Home, Alabama?

963
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: Was they get hit by line? Yeah? No, but that's

964
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: how I want to end every If I ever write

965
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: a story, every story, every every story ever write ends

966
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: like that. If I ever write a start every story

967
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: like that. If I ever write a story, lighting by lightning,

968
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: struck lightning? Um is it? Yeah? It's um. It's like

969
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: a self selection bias, I think where you're like, I'm

970
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna strike me. Why why on earth would

971
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: it strike you? You fucking because I'm Jewish? You know

972
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know what I mean as a

973
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: fellow Jew, as a Jew. No one is a white Jew. Yeah,

974
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: you're a d white Jew by proxy. The Jew is new.

975
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: I've only ever been white. You're a white Jew. Sometimes

976
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: as like obviously I know I'm white, but like really

977
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: have been saying, like I'm Jewish, I'm like white with texture,

978
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, White with seasoning or white

979
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: with not no not seasoning, Why with digestional problems, white

980
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: with white with medical issues, white with the hair type,

981
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: white with um with texture with textures. I mean that

982
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: was not what I was going for initially. But we've

983
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: come full circle. Yes, okay, we've come full circle. And

984
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: there was there was a moment in my there was

985
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: like a moment, a moment in my life where I

986
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: tried to say that Greek was was was a minority

987
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: and it was like a globally Greeks are a minority,

988
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: sick moment in my life where that happened between the

989
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: ages of eighteen and nineteen, where I was like, actually,

990
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm a little Greek. I'm a little Greek too, are you?

991
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: Because we just we just had v Greek because I

992
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: will because I'm my mom's I like to say I'm mixed.

993
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: Actually I'm half Ashnazi, half Separtic, and so my mom's

994
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: side is like jus were kicked out of Spain, fled

995
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: degrees then came to America. So I've got a there's

996
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, I got maybe a spa in there somewhere,

997
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: but a little a little mosaic what are the mosaic

998
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: titles called a little um thing? I think that's a

999
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: fet fe Okay, Max, you're with me, I'm not fed

1000
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: up with you? What is what is this choice? Just

1001
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: just to go back to really quickly to the fashion

1002
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: to the esthetics. What is what is you bleaching not

1003
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: only your hair but your eyebrows? What is what is

1004
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: that intention? I didn't do a full like like drag bleach,

1005
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, I just did. I did a calico. I

1006
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: wanted to yeah brown, it's gorgeous, thank you, I really yeah.

1007
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: I just kind of wanted a little bit of texture,

1008
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: especially because I have like a black mustache right now.

1009
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: Champagne colored hair works really well. Yeah, thank you. My. So,

1010
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: I go to the same hair person as Julio, and um,

1011
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: she every time that I go there to get my

1012
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: you can't tell her what to do. She's she picks

1013
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: for you, but you do. She demands that you tell

1014
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: her exactly what you want, but she will not give

1015
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: it to you, you know what I mean. So she

1016
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: so I came in there and I was like, oh,

1017
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: I want like a blonde that's maybe like a little

1018
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: bit like champagne e or something. And she was like,

1019
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: and she threw me a magazine, was like, look through

1020
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: this magazine and find the color that you want. And

1021
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: I looked and I looked at it looked and I

1022
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: couldn't find anything on the on any of the people.

1023
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: But then I found a picture of Las Vegas and

1024
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: there was a beautiful fountain that was champagne colored, and

1025
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: I was like, this color and she was like, Okay, great,

1026
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: got it and she had She wasn't even with the hair.

1027
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: It was from the champagne that was from a fountain.

1028
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: It was a fountain or something like that. Yeah, he

1029
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: wanted the color of Las Vegas and his hair. I'm

1030
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: he sat on the Vegas. Did you guys go to

1031
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: Vegas as a kid as kids? I've never been as

1032
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: a child. I've been as like a young adult because

1033
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: you know that in the nineties there was like a

1034
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: huge push to make Vegas a family place and it failed.

1035
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: My family capitalized on that. Oh my god, what did

1036
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: they have? Their kids used to be able to go

1037
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: to like Treasure Island and there would be like a

1038
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: whole game floor and you could like win treasure trolls

1039
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: and oh my god, my sister and I were like

1040
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: obsessed with getting trolls, and it was you could like

1041
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: go to a my ex my what my first real boyfriend.

1042
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: His dad was the architect of the Eminem Store. Of

1043
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: the what the Eminem Store. There's an Emin store there

1044
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: which I think was part of the I was going

1045
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: to say the Circus Circus. Remember the theme park, Matt,

1046
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: I know all about it. The roller coaster is still

1047
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: at the New York roller Coaster and they must have

1048
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: a free fall. They used to have a drop tower

1049
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: on top of the building, which was essentially the tallest

1050
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: one in the world because of how high up it was.

1051
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: But so that big pink dome with the theme park.

1052
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: My exes dad made that really, so that was part

1053
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: of them trying to make it like a family attraction. Yeah. Yeah,

1054
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: so there's this huge thing in the nineties where they

1055
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: tried to do and then Vegas was like, actually, funck there.

1056
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: You know they back. They still have Rockety Asked roller

1057
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: coaster in New York. Yeah, it's it's like it's called

1058
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: like the New York Adventure or something. It's like, I

1059
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: don't know what it's New York minute. Maybe that's what

1060
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: it's called minute, but they still have that, and there's

1061
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: like you can tell it is a New York minute.

1062
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: It's just like I think it means like you get

1063
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: somewhere really in a New York minute faster than you

1064
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: went anywhere. Okays, sort of like that line clueless with

1065
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: its like everywhere in No, No, I'm thinking of everywhere

1066
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: in mixing up two, mixing up two quotes because I

1067
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: know that that one that Everywhere in l A takes.

1068
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: But I was thinking actually of pulp fiction where he's like,

1069
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: it takes twenty minutes to get they'll be there in ten.

1070
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: Remember that great job, Quentin great jouin writing that movie

1071
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: did a really good job. Absolutely, actually, I have to

1072
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: say I do love Quintagantina. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm

1073
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: also and Angelina, Uh, pulp fiction. Absolutely, pulption is your favorite? Yeah,

1074
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: I was, I was quoting. Someone asked me of the

1075
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: two kill Bills, which one knows my favorite. I was like,

1076
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, but Volume two has the best

1077
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: fight scene in which one which is Darrell Hanna Versusy

1078
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: with her just just give me chills. Dialogue is so

1079
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: gorgeous and hate to say it. Camp e. Um, that's right,

1080
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: I killed your master. Um, I killed your master. Now

1081
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you with your own sword no less,

1082
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: which in the very near future will become my sword. Bitch,

1083
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: you don't have a future. And then they kill and

1084
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: then she you should do a lip sync of you

1085
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 1: saying that into the microphone. Just now, is Daryl Hannah good?

1086
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: I she's so fucking good in that movie. General question

1087
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: about Darryl Hamming. I think I think she's good in

1088
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: a way that makes you, yeah, sure, question it, where

1089
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: like in like Steel Magnoli's You're like, oh, she's what

1090
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: is this character? And in a Walk to Remember she

1091
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: has on the craziest fucking wig and she plays Shane

1092
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: West's mom, And I think she's fabulous in that. And

1093
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: I think enough anything and kill Bill. I think she's great.

1094
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: I think she's a great She's not in this era.

1095
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: I'll say that. I know it's it's a little unfortunately.

1096
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: I think we I think like she like our generation

1097
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: sort of like Mr. Skewed at an angle with her

1098
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: children have forgotten, children have forgotten a little, and she

1099
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: doesn't trans like she doesn't translate to the children nowadays,

1100
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: where it's like the children now can latch onto like

1101
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, a fucking a grand missy on a grand days.

1102
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: See Pyle is that actress that you literally know but

1103
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: maybe not by name. She's in so much ship like

1104
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: and she's enjolding the pussy she's in. She's in um

1105
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: like fun. Yeah, I think she's in Hairspray. Know she's

1106
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: in guh what was that movie The Gout the Mother? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1107
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: she's in. She's literally this old one. She's I think

1108
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: she's my TV's mom. I'm literally gonna bring it up

1109
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: right now. You're I'm gonna see it. You're gonna see

1110
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: a picture. You're gonna no idea who this is. I

1111
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who that. Well, she's she's

1112
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: a famous You're not. You're not a real Angelina If

1113
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: you don't know who who Missy Pylos, I classically don't

1114
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: know anything. Well, that's that's good that I don't know.

1115
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean this Missy Pile is Cannon. That's actually Missy

1116
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: pyle is. What's your thing with darryl Um, here's my thing?

1117
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: I actually think that. Well, you know one time Quentin

1118
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: Tarantino I was reading an interview with him and he said,

1119
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't work with any dumb actors, and so I

1120
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: was like, that's interesting because I was crazy thing because

1121
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: I know John Travolta, well, I mean, who knows who

1122
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: by the way, it's so hot now? Or maybe he's

1123
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: my god because he shaved his head. He's have you

1124
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: seen a picture? You don't know. I'm gonna end the

1125
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 1: episode John Travolta with his shaved head is my Missno's

1126
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna. I'm gonna power saying cult, this product

1127
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: of a cult product is telling us that cult master

1128
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: John Travolta. He looks, don't He's not hot? I agree,

1129
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: he looks better than having that horrible situation that had before.

1130
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: But on that fucking pasty wa also classically have been

1131
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 1: criticized over and over again for wanting to be reiled

1132
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: by Ron Perlman. So whatever, Oh my god, everyone moans

1133
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: it's like shot, No, I'm not. I'm not moaning. I'm saying,

1134
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: like moaning, you're a screaming stupid Wait what was I

1135
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: just saying? So he there was this quote. Maybe it

1136
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: was like I don't like to work with dumb actors

1137
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: or like I only work as smart actors or something

1138
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: like that. And and I was recently I watched an

1139
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: interview like last week with Carol Radzeville. She was on

1140
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: move with Carol. Can I get to what Nick has

1141
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: to do with I'm literally telling the story and I'm

1142
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: gonna say what it has to do with her. So

1143
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: I was watching an interview with her on like um

1144
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: Jenny McCarthy, and she was talking about because I got

1145
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: on some like Caroline Bissette Kennedy jfk Jr. Thing, I

1146
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: was like, I fell into a Wikipedia wormhole and I

1147
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: was like reading about that plane crash and then realized

1148
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: they were really close to the Carol Radzeville from your

1149
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: real houses of New York. And I was watching this

1150
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:34,479
Speaker 1: interview and she said that before before JFK Jr. Dated

1151
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: Caroline Bissett, he dated Darryl Hannah and and and Carol

1152
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: and and Cal Rodzeville said, and so you know we

1153
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: had to endure that, so really off handed. And so

1154
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, and so what I was thinking

1155
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: about her performances and I'm like, yeah, I wonder what

1156
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: the deal is at Daryl Hannah. So that's why I

1157
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: ask is Daryl Hannah good? I'm sure the woman said

1158
01:00:53,800 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: that about her legit, legit individual. Um, I it wouldn't

1159
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: surprise me if Daryl Hannah was like a bad person.

1160
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: It was like an asshole and like people did not

1161
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: like working with her. This also was like the early nineties,

1162
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: Remember sure when she was probably at the height of

1163
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: her fame post and she was the most fucking beautiful woman,

1164
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: Like she was squear jaw like and maybe someone like

1165
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: Carol Radzeville, like Emmy Women Peabody Award winning journalist was

1166
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: like looked down in Scottland Liken dating this actress and

1167
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: like that was very easy for jfkj do. Maybe maybe

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01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: Carol saying and we had to you know, endure that

1169
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: as like yeah, like at that time she was probably

1170
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure Daryl Hannah was like a fucking cocount and like, well,

1171
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: Darryl Hannah and jfk Jr. Were like on and off

1172
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,479
Speaker 1: for a long How did she lose her finger again?

1173
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't know lost. Yeah, she's like

1174
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: missing part of her finger. Okay, we need to h

1175
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: h can you looked at Daryl just googled how it happened?

1176
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: How it happened? Was it that Jeeves? How it happened? Um?

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01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: That's easy. Um. Do you guys remember when you could

1178
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: ask Jeeves is Jeeves well hung? And then he'd give

1179
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: you some coms. He'd be like, Frankly, I don't know

1180
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: you should be asking about missing fingers Daryl Hannah lost

1181
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: part of her left index finger when she was a child.

1182
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: She told The Sunday Times of South Africa that she

1183
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: got it stuck in a pulley in a well at

1184
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: her grandma's house when she was little. She sometimes wears

1185
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: a prosthetic finger in her movies. Okay, okay, wait, let

1186
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: me read this again. She her grandma's house. HBO, we

1187
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: have no choice but to stand. We have no interesting

1188
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: development that we have no choice. Do you think that's

1189
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: finger in a well? Yeah? Where do you think that

1190
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: finger is now at the bottom of a Wait? Hold on,

1191
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: there's right. Oh. Now we have a photograph of the

1192
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: missing finger in question, and I can say that the

1193
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: finger is an absolute happy Oh wait, let me see. Yeah,

1194
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean you got to check this. I mean there's

1195
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: not a whole finger, you know what you need. If

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01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: I lost my nick finger, I would have a trip

1197
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: on my finger. But I would have a goddamn tip

1198
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: on my finger. About that, I would, I would. I

1199
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: would look at the world and feel that once went

1200
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: on a date with a guy in San Francisco who

1201
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: who said like stuck his because I guess as a

1202
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: kid had like stuck his finger into like his mom's

1203
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: exercise machine in the eighties and like had it taken away?

1204
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: You know who's missing part of his finger? My dad?

1205
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: My dad. He was teaching and um like there was

1206
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: like a television that was like um hung up in

1207
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: the one of the classrooms and like he and it,

1208
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean trigger warning, the television fell on his finger

1209
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: and the top of it came off. I once dropped

1210
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: a bottle of shampoo on my toe and it started bleeding.

1211
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: I once stubbed my toe in my apartment. That's so bad.

1212
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: It was really sad. Have you guys ever stepped your

1213
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: toes so perfectly that it doesn't hurt at all? Like

1214
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: it was just like the like it's exactly perfect of

1215
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: the access of your bad or whatever UM has that

1216
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: that's never happened. You know, every time I stepped my toes,

1217
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: it hurts. When you have to realigne I have you

1218
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: have to realign your too, have a condition where every

1219
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: time I stepped my toe it hurts. It hurts me

1220
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: so bad. It's truly. It doesn't feel like the world

1221
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: is going to end anytime you stub your toe. You're like,

1222
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: and it makes me nervous to get in a car.

1223
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: Act where it's like if I can't even withstand this pain,

1224
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: then like I will, I will surely perish. What's the

1225
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: worst pain you ever felt? What is the worst pain

1226
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: you've ever been in? Oh my god, I'm not emotional

1227
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: because I don't care for that. I mean, I don't.

1228
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: I broke my arm twice as again, and I don't remember.

1229
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember what that felt because it was pure

1230
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: trauma rasure. Um. For me, it was kidney stones. Oh fun.

1231
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: I had kidney sts when I was nineteen working at

1232
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: American Apparel because I was instead of drinking water, drinking

1233
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: only switches. There was a this is because I've been

1234
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: drinking a lot of protein shakes lately. Congratulations. You've got

1235
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: to be careful with that. Because we had to deal

1236
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: with the people that looked at strawbacks across the street.

1237
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: They would get free clothes whenever they wanted, and we

1238
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: got to have free sweet So I just eat three

1239
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: of those of it. No, absolutely not. We were nineteen

1240
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: or younger some of us and working at a clothing shop.

1241
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: This is why that place apparelled American Apparel. What was

1242
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: what was the staff? The staffing A hundred percent, that's

1243
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: what happens when you hire people that you think are

1244
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: hot instead of people that six people are And I'm sorry,

1245
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: I have it's somebody. Any retail job I would apply for,

1246
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: specifically clothing, retail apparel, um, it was like I would

1247
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: always get these looks. Yeah, like it was just like

1248
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding? You're you want to

1249
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: work at the Buckle? Like is the buck the Buckle

1250
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: was the fucking It was in every fucking mall in

1251
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: the Midwest and the Western I'm going to kill you

1252
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: Midwest and then west of the Midwest. And my friend,

1253
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: let's start back, worked at the Buckle and she was like,

1254
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: you should apply for a job at the Buckle. Bless

1255
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 1: her heart, she was trying to be a good friend,

1256
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: but she knew in that moment that I would have

1257
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: never gotten the job, stupid bitch. And I applied it

1258
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: and it was like a true moment of shame that

1259
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: I remember that had stayed with me where it was

1260
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: like the person I send I get handed over the

1261
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: hard copy paper application to some fucking woman who was

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Speaker 1: two years older than me, who just looked at me

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: and it was like You're never like why would you ever?

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01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: Why would we ever hire. Okay, the same and I

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01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: applied for and I think I applied to American Apparel

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01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: in college too. It was the same thing. It was like, no,

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01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: I did the same. I applied to American Apparel and

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01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: I was required to attach a photo like I was

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: in South Korea today, you know, and like you would

1270
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: be in a K pop group or something exactly. But

1271
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: and I got rejected several times from American prol The

1272
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,959
Speaker 1: way that I actually got a job there was because

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01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: I was hanging out with a friend of mine who

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01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: worked there, and we showed up Super superstoned while he

1275
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: was closing and they were doing a floor count that

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01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: night where they had to count every item on the

1277
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: floor just you know, I guess to re gage stock

1278
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: or whatever because so much stuff was happening all the time.

1279
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we show up Superstone and this girl,

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01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: because we were like in West l A. This girl

1281
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: named I'm just kind of just called her name was Lane,

1282
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: and she was incredibly like Hollywood Hills, like Olsen Twins,

1283
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: like you know, like black, shaggy clothes, long blonde hair,

1284
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 1: big hat, did not need this job, had so much money,

1285
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: and she at that moment was like okay, I'm going

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01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: on spring break. And the manager that was there at

1287
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: the time, she was like, wait, who's going to take

1288
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: over your shift? And she was like, I don't know

1289
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: anyway by and she walked out, and the manager just

1290
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: like turned to me, and I was like, well, can

1291
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: you help us with this floor a count tonight and

1292
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: maybe like take over her shift for the next two weeks?

1293
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: And I was like uh, And I was stoned out

1294
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: of my fucking mind. I stood in front, I stood

1295
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: in front of a rack of green sweaters for what

1296
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: to me felt like roughly six hours or a New

1297
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: York Man for a New York minute, a full New

1298
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: York minute, and I just to there carefully, like scratching

1299
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: into this clipboard, you know, like one size of the

1300
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: style RST three K nine. You know, it's like trying

1301
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: so fun, sweating my ass off in absolute terror. But

1302
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: I got hired that way, just through just through some

1303
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: back channel, and I just I just like wish we

1304
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: had had any cultural awareness where I was growing up,

1305
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 1: that like, what the funk was going on? So racist

1306
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: and so like sizest, so demeaning, Like it's because yeah,

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: I used to go to Abercrombie and like walk around

1308
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: and like peacock and try to get asked hired there

1309
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: to like boost my ego because that's the power it had.

1310
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: And I like, I don't think I would have even

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: had the like understanding of vocabulary to like be told

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: like just so you know, this is like reductive and

1313
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: and like what it is. But back then, like I

1314
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: would have this fantasy and this is so embarrassing and

1315
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: so funny to me now, the fantasy but walking into

1316
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: a hollister folding up clothes and some of them approaching

1317
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: me be like do you want to work? Honestly, it

1318
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: was like it was it was, Hey, we think you'd

1319
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: be a really good asset to the team. You're really

1320
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: good at that. Yeah. Wait. I one time before I

1321
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: worked in American eparrel, I used to someone's pretend to

1322
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: work there because I had like so many friends over there,

1323
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: and he's just like hang out all the time. And

1324
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: one day they're just like, oh my god, just like

1325
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: pretending you work here. And this guy came up to

1326
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: me and he was like because people used to ask

1327
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: me questions about the stock there anyway, the part, and

1328
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: this guy came up to and he was like, do

1329
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: you guys have this shirt in different sizes, and I

1330
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: just like and I looked around and I was like no,

1331
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: and then he just like walked off and then came

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01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: back like ten minutes later. I was like, I found

1333
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 1: the other sizes because I was like I wanted to

1334
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: come off in that moment, I was like doing the

1335
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: coct I was like, can I spot the shirt out

1336
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: of the corner I now and like lead him to it?

1337
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: Or can I or do I just like say something

1338
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: with confidence that asserts that I do work here and

1339
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. And I opted for the

1340
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: ladder instead of instead of looking like a fool and

1341
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: sort of like helping him get what he needed. I

1342
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: just like you did with that note and colors opt

1343
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: for confidence for confidence about title about for confidence, But

1344
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: I do I would know you cannot name an episode

1345
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: that I've been on opt for confidence because I'm so

1346
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: anti confident. It's going to be called New York Minette,

1347
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: New York miette with oh no, there's there's there's eno

1348
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: fire any there? Do you guys? Do do are people

1349
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: like are they like you're from New York on? Did

1350
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: they say that to you guys? No? No, But Ruby

1351
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: mccollus her when she was on this pod, you're you're

1352
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: your co host. I've never who is that? Shut up?

1353
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: She's really um she Matt had just gotten gotten back

1354
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: in from l A I think recently, and then she

1355
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: was like and it was a beautiful memo where she

1356
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: had clocked them. She was like, you are you have

1357
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: this l A jack about you right now where you're

1358
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: just like you're so You're so happy, You're like right

1359
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: now you're present in New York. You're happy to be back.

1360
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: And I see that and like Ruby, but Ruby is

1361
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: just a very saying that about you. Yeah, yeah, Okay,

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: it was beautiful. Listen back to it. It's great. Listen

1363
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: to the episode. Okay, that was back. Okay, well that's

1364
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: actually what we had said was listening back. Okay. Well,

1365
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: maybe I'm really busy because I'm sort of on a

1366
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: New York schedule right now. Maybe maybe I want to say, um, this,

1367
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: this this thing about Peacocky and a Abercrombie is so real. Yeah,

1368
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was a huge um, but I want

1369
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: to say, like bell Weather, like like whether or not

1370
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: I was worth it. And I think it's like a

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01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: little precursor for any time, like you and I at

1372
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: least we'll walk into like like a sexy gay space

1373
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: where you go see nbcn where it's like I better be,

1374
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: I better opt for you know whatever. It is like

1375
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: I better be, like I better, I better try. I

1376
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: gotta figure out say what you want to say? No, no, no,

1377
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: it's like but you know, it's like it's like so

1378
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: many times you walk into that kind of space and

1379
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're gonna like, yeah, I don't know,

1380
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: Like just I'm saying, like that feeling of being in

1381
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: like a cool store like that, it's just so funny

1382
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: to think that now. Well, it's just so I remember,

1383
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: like I recently was at a mall and I walked

1384
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: I walked out. Yeah, I walked past like an Abercrombie

1385
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: or like a hollow store or something in the aesthetics

1386
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: of it. And the whole vibe is so different now

1387
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: because it was like totally like untenable and like not

1388
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: logistically feasible to like continue that culture like it was.

1389
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: It just like it was so crazy. But I remember,

1390
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: do you remember how fucking loud those stores were? They

1391
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: reeked of whatever smells like a grapefruit, spoon being dragged

1392
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: through my Yeah, it's crazy, like the fact that those

1393
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: people weren't there. They need to be checked. Just shirtless

1394
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: men outside clapping, clapping, clapping, telling you I'll just never

1395
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: forget walking like it was like the highlight of my year.

1396
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: One time when I walked past the Hollander, someone ran

1397
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: out of the store and told me they thought I

1398
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: would quote do well there. Wow, I mean, so this

1399
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: is this is something different where like you were, you

1400
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: were being you were being validated in a certain way

1401
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: to be like you should you belong. And I remember,

1402
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: like because it's a thing. It's like because I got

1403
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: that validation once or twice, I was then like, well

1404
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: I need to get it now periodically going forward or

1405
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: else I also I'll have lost something, you know what

1406
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like once they tell you, like, hi,

1407
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: I just so you know, this is your worth. If

1408
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: you don't get that again, you're like, did I lose

1409
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: my worth? You know what I mean. It's it's that

1410
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: weird thing. So I remember I would be like all

1411
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: throughout high school, like constantly check back in and be like, hey,

1412
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that I still like

1413
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: have worth after spending some time in Los Angeles, do

1414
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: you feel like you are a little more like self healthy,

1415
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: Like do you do you know what I mean? Like,

1416
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: do you like do you sort of feel like you

1417
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: have a little bit more uh command over these like

1418
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: like these mantras and stuff. But I also think it's

1419
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: not an l a thing. It's like a post my

1420
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: Saturn return thing, Like does that mean I don't know

1421
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: what that means. It's like when when Saturn comes back

1422
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: to where the position it was when when you were born.

1423
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: So it happens like when you're around between seven and

1424
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: twenty nine, like this moment in your life, which is like,

1425
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: well it happened to you already, and I was supposed

1426
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: to do something at that time. Well no, it just

1427
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: like changes like cosmically in the way that you exist.

1428
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: Like usually it's it collaborates with something in your life

1429
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: that's like a big change. And I definitely had one,

1430
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: Like my twenty eight year of my life was like

1431
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: extremely chaotic and so much change. And now after that,

1432
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm like chemically and cellularly like

1433
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: a different person. It's it's weird, like and so now

1434
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: I think like like little changes in my attitude and

1435
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: changes in behavior, like I'm a different person than I

1436
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: was like two years ago. It doesn't have to do

1437
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: with l A, but like I think that's it's it's

1438
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: convenient that like I've adapted him, adopted him more, like well,

1439
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: who cares. We're all we're all like just like little

1440
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: bags of meat bopping around in space. Like I don't know.

1441
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just gonna self because because we'll know,

1442
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: just because like that is sort of like something that

1443
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: happens in Los Angeles and California in general, because it's

1444
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 1: such a like cult central place because people do forget

1445
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: that it's Los Angeles is a desert in the desert um,

1446
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: but it's like there's some like quality to it where

1447
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: it's like the vastness of it all just makes people

1448
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: trip the funk out, and it's sort of like they're

1449
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: sort of like like ayahuasca esque, uh state of existence

1450
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: that you get into when you live in a place

1451
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: where you're sort of like like you and aware of

1452
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: vast distance. Yes, I feel a lot less pressure there

1453
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: In New York. I feel a lot of pressure to

1454
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: do a lot every day. Like I I sorry, I

1455
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: beat myself up in a way. In New York that

1456
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: I do not do it or not, and I'm happier

1457
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Um, but Max is what you're saying

1458
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: is like you're you're out there in the desert and

1459
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: you are made to feel so inadequate that you have

1460
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: to swing the other way, which is to be like,

1461
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta work on my I gotta like

1462
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be happy with who I am. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess what I was saying is just like the

1464
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 1: fever that occurs with people that like live in Los

1465
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: Angeles and California in general. Like it sort of allows

1466
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: for more like ambient like states of awareness that sort

1467
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: of feed into like the acceptance of sort of like

1468
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: almost like culti thought patterns, which is why so much

1469
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: of that stuff thing is able to exist there. Not

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01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: to mention it's just such gorgeous by it, people are

1471
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: just able to think about other things. That's the thing is,

1472
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: It's like it also you you you're less aware of

1473
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: the passage of time because it's like or like things

1474
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: feel less like urgent because things aren't changing all the time,

1475
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: and it's so upset. When I was a kid and

1476
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: people were like there's no seasons it's it's it's fall.

1477
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: I just put on a card again. It's definitely a

1478
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: new season. No, I literally give me one perfect season

1479
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: at all times. I don't need it. I don't need

1480
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't need winter. I don't know. I'm with you,

1481
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: well know, the worst thing you can have for me

1482
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: is what we're experiencing right now. The depression that I

1483
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: feel in this weather is unparalleled. What we hate, this humidity, humidity.

1484
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: It weighs me down in a way where I've never

1485
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: been a waste of like a weight life like I

1486
01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: have been over the last four days. That's been crazy.

1487
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 1: I haven't left my apartment at all, just just like

1488
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: Dick in hand laziness. That is like so ridiculous. So

1489
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: I used to feel similarly to you. But then when

1490
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,919
Speaker 1: I was sixteen, I went to Japan on an exchange program.

1491
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: I went to like a small town of food in

1492
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: called Fujinoma at the base of Mount Fuji, and like,

1493
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: when I stepped off that plane, I was hit with

1494
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: what I had never experienced before, which was a humidity

1495
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: wall of intensity, and I was like, holy funk, this

1496
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: is unreal. And I stepped outside and I was like,

1497
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: and I think my brain was like, I have to

1498
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: make an immediate decision about how to interact with this

1499
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: because because I'm reaching a breakin point. So this thought

1500
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: clicked into my head where I was like, wait, I

1501
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: like being in saunas. If I just think of this

1502
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: like a steam room, then I can basically just relax

1503
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: into it. And I was like, Okay, So if I'm

1504
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: able to remind myself that I like this sensation in

1505
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 1: other contexts, then I'm able to sort of like return

1506
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: to do it in a more peaceful So you just

1507
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: chose decision. It's made the decision to be happy. There's

1508
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: something wrong with you. Wrong with the body positivity movement

1509
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: is a sham. Yeah, there's something really wrong with you. Ever,

1510
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: you actually have a personality disorder? I do actually, Um

1511
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: but no, I definitely don't. No, definitely, I'm totally kidding you, guys.

1512
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm a comedian. Um but well, no, I mean I

1513
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: get what. Yeah, that's that is. That is a very

1514
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: useful Listen. I have to keep checking. I have to

1515
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: keep lying to myself. That's what I'm actually talking back to.

1516
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: Is that actually lying to myself. So actually take that

1517
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: back where you brought it and the receipt, because do

1518
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: you need the gift receipt? I actually need the receipt.

1519
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: It is at this time time for I don't think so, honey,

1520
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 1: I really quickly, I want to say, I think the

1521
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: Abercrombie and Fitches of our youth is down to social

1522
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: media at large. Right. It's like going through Instagram feels

1523
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: like walking through Abercron Like, well, thank god that's no

1524
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: longer a thing. Yeah, because it's like I lived in

1525
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: part of our experience and stupid bitches, And do you

1526
01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: ever think about that? Readers? So she I don't think so, Monny.

1527
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: This is our We take one minute. It's a segment

1528
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: that we have on this podcast Last Cultures Tost with

1529
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers and this is called Lost Culture and we

1530
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: just have culture comedy podcast. I'm Matt. That's okay. I

1531
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: know it's confusing. We're both white. Um, so I'm just

1532
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna say that's why it was confused. That's why I

1533
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: was confusing. So we take one minute to reel again

1534
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: something in culture that we do not like or dislike

1535
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: or even hate. Um, I have something, Okay, what is it?

1536
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna do it right now. Okay, this

1537
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: is I need to know ahead of time. No, no, no,

1538
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 1: come immediately clear, because Matt Rogers, I don't think so

1539
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 1: many a time starts now. I don't think so, honey,

1540
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: Dora the Explorer of the movie, Um, Dora is hot.

1541
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't like this. You cannot make Dora the Explorer hot.

1542
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: Come on, vominos more like fun that like that? Um

1543
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: so she's got like fully beat face. She's literally supposed

1544
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: to be a child, you guys, I don't think so.

1545
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: I also do not think so, honey, that we need

1546
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: the Dora movie. She feels like she was barely even

1547
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: culturally relevant, like when she was. Maybe she's not very

1548
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: but like, I don't love the image of Dora, like

1549
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: as this hot young thing. Somebody tweeted I don't know

1550
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: who it was, but it was like, why is Door

1551
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: they explore having a hot girl summer? And I'm like, yeah,

1552
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: this feels really crazy to me looking at them, looking

1553
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 1: at the poster, I was like, it's called Dora. And

1554
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 1: then something something something. I'm like, you know, there hasn't

1555
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: even been one Door a mobile. Let's just call it

1556
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: Door the Explorer. First, we're jumping out of ourselves. We're

1557
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: franchising it in a way that I don't think, so, honey,

1558
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, door the exploring and I'm

1559
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 1: sorry never did. And that's one minute. That's gorgeous. Wait,

1560
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: by the way, so I think the Cats movie looks beautiful.

1561
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: I think I visually think, to my eyes it's gorgeous,

1562
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 1: and I think it's gorgeous. I think it's this generation's

1563
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: three hundred. I think, both defining a new visual aesthetic

1564
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:03,839
Speaker 1: and also gonna stoke a lot of violence the the movie. Similarly,

1565
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I saw it, and I also was like, no, I

1566
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: mean I saw I was like, I think I maybe

1567
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: do want to see that. I mean, it's something I

1568
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: definitely won't see him when you when you when you

1569
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: talk about cats, like this is something we all musty.

1570
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a cultural duty to see cats,

1571
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: because dot to see cats, it's not dutity. But I

1572
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: was watching I was watching The Lion King. I went

1573
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: to see The Lion King, which is bad, and next

1574
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 1: to me were these women that were like, what's this

1575
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: when the Cat's trailer came on, And then, by the way,

1576
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: they narrated the whole movie of The Lion King, which

1577
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 1: couldn't have been better. It was. It was exactly what

1578
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: he needed. And literally, the one girl goes to the

1579
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: other girl, look at what they have Jennifer Hudson wearing

1580
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: in a second, So then Jennifer Hudson comes on screen

1581
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: and they all started laughing so hard and we were

1582
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: dying laughing. It was so funny to watch them watch

1583
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: this trailer for the first time. And at the end

1584
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: they go, well, I know what we won't be seeing,

1585
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: and I said, we will all be there, and then

1586
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: literally they all because they knew it was true. So

1587
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: because we will all see cats if we don't see cats,

1588
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: like why why why? I don't know, make movies movies

1589
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: if you're not going to set. It's like when they

1590
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: bring a dessert to the table, it's like, Okay, we

1591
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: didn't order it, but we're going to eat it dessert

1592
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: that cannot possibly be what they thought was presentable. No,

1593
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just like, no, this isn't what

1594
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: I ordered and I would never order it, but I

1595
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 1: said free dessert on the table, not to say that

1596
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: Cats is going to be free, but like might as well.

1597
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean, like you're not what else are you paying steal? Cats.

1598
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: Should we seek can we speak in the movie. Let's

1599
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: do that, Let's steal cats, steal cats. I know we

1600
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: know someone who does this someone yeah, movie steals steal Yeah,

1601
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: and he's good at it, so we can ask for

1602
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: his help. I just opened up my phone to put

1603
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: the time round for Bell and it was just so

1604
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: many pictures of pile. Okay, so this is Bowen Yans.

1605
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey. Ready, I had such a

1606
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: good one and now it's gone. Oh fuck, do you

1607
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: need a trouble? No? No, no, no, no, um okay,

1608
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: I know it's okay. This is the moldings. I don't

1609
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: think so many of these time starts now, I don't

1610
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: think so many Chlorox wet wipes. Bit do not get

1611
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: it clean enough? And what is that lemony scent that

1612
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: you leave afterwards? It feels like a Clorox you know what.

1613
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 1: The scent has transcended, like the lemon verbin or whatever

1614
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 1: the fuck. The scent is now unmistakably to anyone's nostrils

1615
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: Chlorox wet wipes. And someone's gonna walk into my apartment

1616
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,560
Speaker 1: and smell it smells like Clorox wet wipes, And I

1617
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 1: don't want anymore. That is, they failed. You have failed

1618
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: the fundamental function of your product. If you know, like

1619
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, you've you've identified the scent, the olfactory identity

1620
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: of this with the product itself, and it's now it

1621
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: doesn't feel clean anymore. Do you know what I'm saying?

1622
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: Does that make sense to you? Guys? It's like, um,

1623
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: it's like smelling a piece of glass and saying it

1624
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: smells like windex And now it doesn't feel like glass anymore.

1625
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: It feels like a wind, a piece of wind x,

1626
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: a piece of wind, piece of window. So I don't

1627
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: think so, honey, our cleaning parcuts. There has to be

1628
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: a real change that happens in the culture in order

1629
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: for cleaning PROCs smell like cleaning parks anymore, so that

1630
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: our products don't smell like cleaning products. And that's one minute.

1631
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: Thank you. I thought you were going in the direction

1632
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: of like a wet wife you use on your butthole,

1633
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: because we famously talked about buttholes earlier in the you

1634
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: and that would be a bleaching to be bleaching to.

1635
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: But then someone who goes down there will say, like

1636
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: your as smells chlorine, They're gonna honestly. Yeah, they would

1637
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 1: take the chloros and they'd be like mommy, mommy, but

1638
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: maybe someone but maybe hb A. You know that's the

1639
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: actual experience that yeah, he gets as eate and then

1640
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: they go, yeah, just swift for wet jet. That's what

1641
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you can walk smells like swiffer. You know,

1642
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: it smells like the product. You're right, it's so mass

1643
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: marketed now that it's like we all know that smell,

1644
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: and so we're gonna that's why you need candles. You

1645
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: cannot clean your apartment, so you did not clean. That's

1646
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: why you need to live in the Okay, I think

1647
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: it's a time for back twitter. It's wait, has somebody

1648
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: done this one before? What? I can't? Okay, you start

1649
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: doing it and someone's then it will stop matter and

1650
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: it also doesn't matter. We won't stop over there. Okay,

1651
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: this is expuitters. I don't think so money. It's time

1652
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so honey. Umbrellas has been

1653
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: no okay, great, wait can you start my time? Okay, fine, okay, okay.

1654
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: Umbrellas are just working like mass mass marketed, like litter.

1655
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,759
Speaker 1: They're just like it is just made in gigantic quantities.

1656
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: They should also absolutely be like a city utility. I

1657
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't have paper. Then I've never been able to hold

1658
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: on doing ambrell for more than one fucking years. I

1659
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: should be able to walk out of a location, grab

1660
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: one of the umbrellas that's in the bucket, use it,

1661
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: and then just like throw it in another bucket like

1662
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: a city bike. Second, it is just like a known

1663
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 1: fact that rain does not come from a of It

1664
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: comes from all fucking directions. So when when you use umbrella,

1665
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't do fucking anything. All they do is like

1666
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: serve as like these like lacerating. Yes, and the only

1667
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: used for an umbrella is to use as a as

1668
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: a defense against other umbrellas because I am risking my vision.

1669
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: I literally five seconds core to get out of the

1670
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: way of your umbrellas. I don't think so. I don't

1671
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: think that beautiful. And the thing the problem I have

1672
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: with umbrellas is that they're so easily lost. Yes, because

1673
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: I guess what, you just turned this big thing into trash.

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Speaker 1: You just threw it on the streets somewhere. I don't

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01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: have a roommate anymore, but my roommate took my umbrella,

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01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: bitch and my room who doesn't. But you don't have

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01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: an umbrella. You don't have you don't have a roommate.

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01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 1: Roommate took your umbrella. My umbrellas. I can only say,

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01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm not lying there to be stolen. That's the thing

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01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: that's like, it becomes like the wild West out there

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01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: when you see an umbrella and you're in a carrious

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01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: situation where you're gonna get rained on. That's why I

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01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: just say, keep in mind, we're under the same sky.

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01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: That's from the song Kissed the Rain by Billy Myers,

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm it's from my roundable they saying

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01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: that you have to just kiss the rains? Can I

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01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 1: also add an addendum on the mind that I just

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01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: thought about. But you go first. Well, you know, like

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01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: the sharing an umbrella, it's like, who do you think

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01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: you're fucking kidding that it barely works for one fucking person.

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01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: You think two people are going to get under it.

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01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: To be honestly, I'm always the old, taller one, so

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01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: I always have to hold it, and I don't think

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: so high. Yeah, And if I have to hold it,

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01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm piste off. And if the other person is holding it.

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01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: They're not holding over me, right, And I have to

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01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 1: add what fucking sucking huddle under their under their little

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01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: little little and that's what destroys friendship. My addendam wet

1699
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: and die. And this is my addendum to that. Yeah,

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01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: you can't. There's no such thing as an investment piece umbrella.

1701
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: You cannot invest in a nice umbrella because it's, as

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01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Matt's sad established, the only get stolen and you lose

1703
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,759
Speaker 1: them and you it's it's it's not an investing peacepace.

1704
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: You can't store it away somewhere that where it's going

1705
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: to be guaranteed safe. But can I do in pression

1706
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 1: if you just that's my PRESI of you bet. This

1707
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: is the title of episode is actually really calls your

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01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: number one DTY four. This has been a fabulous episode

1709
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: because of the most fabulous episode. And here's the thing.

1710
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: Max Twitter is very talented and he has the gift

1711
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: of gab. And that's why we had had such a

1712
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: great episode because amongst your many gifts is also gab.

1713
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 1: It's also we they any time I have a conversation

1714
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: with the Max Twitter, ever, winding, it takes a winding,

1715
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: term takes ever a winding term. We covered a lot

1716
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: of culture, a lot of culture. Remember in the earlier

1717
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: in the episode when it was very serious culture about fashion,

1718
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: let me kind of cross over into more like you

1719
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: know it takes on yes on women? Is that what

1720
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: you just And also I would call this episode so

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01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: fashionating if that wasn't already the title of Max and

1722
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Ruby's pod, which you should absolutely listen to. Max, I

1723
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: cannot wait for your fashion week coverage. Thank you. What's

1724
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: what's next? What's coming up next New York Fashion? Yeah?

1725
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: Well I know I think it starts off doesn't start in.

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01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: I don't know either. I just I just fashion is both.

1727
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: I take what comes at fashion is liberating, but it's

1728
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: also a prison whatever. Um. Anyway, this has been so special,

1729
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: But we also can I just like plug is that okay?

1730
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: So come to get real every month with me and Joe.

1731
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: It's really really fun. We have comedians dub over movie

1732
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: clips live, um, and you guys are gonna love it.

1733
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: I think this coming month we're gonna in August we're

1734
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: gonna Western's maybe, so that'll be cute. Also, I have

1735
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: a solo show coming up on Union Hall right now,

1736
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm working between two titles. So, okay, so what we

1737
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: may not have established that I'm also a cartoonist, yes

1738
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: said illustrated, I black out everything. I'm vitamin B division.

1739
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't make new memories. But so it's gonna be

1740
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 1: like an all illustrated solo show. And I'm so I'm

1741
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:34,839
Speaker 1: demanding between two titles. One is uh Max were Portrait

1742
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: of the Artist seated with grapes or um Max Twitter?

1743
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: I forgot something but something is spelled wrong because I

1744
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: was desperately typing title ideas to some friends and UM,

1745
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: I misspelled something, but I like the way that it looked,

1746
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 1: So it's like something spelled like th h I J

1747
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: G B or something I like. Um, I like, I

1748
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: like portrait of an artist city with grapes, and I

1749
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: like the ladder. So it'll be up to the readers

1750
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 1: now us. No, Actually, we're gonna put up a poll

1751
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: when this episode comes out, and not only then will

1752
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: we find out what your show is. Even if it

1753
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: comes out only two days before your show, you're just

1754
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to advertise it as the untitled Max Word

1755
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: solo show that is so queer it's really yeah, this

1756
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,560
Speaker 1: podcast actually is really queer and oh my god, I

1757
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: forgot to ask you guys this is a safe space? Yeah, yeah,

1758
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: actually wait and then you can release yeah sorry, okay,

1759
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: then you can't release my episode until it is no.

1760
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna really until this is a government sponsored safe space.

1761
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't we end every episode with

1762
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: the song? Okay, what do you want me to sing? No,

1763
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: you actually are I've actually banned from singing. If you

1764
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 1: cut it down, then you'll never You'll never cry to

1765
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: the corn moon light our cover skin. You need to

1766
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: see the mountain needs to paint with all the colors

1767
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: of the wind. You can you can only earth and

1768
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 1: still all your own desert you get with all the

1769
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 1: colors of the We stay forever. This has been a

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Speaker 1: Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Ballum, Joe Silio,

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01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:45,160
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