1 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Wishing you a very happy holiday season. Welcome to a 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: new edition of Between the Horns, presented by your Southern 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: California at Toyota Dealers. It's Week sixteen. I'm JB. Long, 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: a very thin skin Californian, enjoying these seventy eight degree 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: temperatures midweek here in Woodland Hills. I know Maurice Jones 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: Drew feels the same way. But it's good to have 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Stu Jackson here because he has earned his stripes in 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: the Midwest and he is ready. He is built for this, 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: this trip to the Meadowlands. Too good to see you, buddy. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: Good to see you guys too. 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: Nice that at least the h this cold weather trip 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: was saved until December, up to October. 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Game day high of twenty seven in the Meadowlands according 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: to my weather app. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: So I don't think I have any cold weather gear. 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: I still have my winter coat that I brought when 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: I moved out here from the Midwest. I actually still 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: have my ice scraper, but that's my apartment, not my 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: car anymore, because too many people made fun of me 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: for having that in my trunk, because like obviously one 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 2: am I ever going to use that out. 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: Here, But I'm concerned. Now are you gonna have the 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: window open always? Oh? All right? 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: It is it Aaron Rodgers? Like whenever the Rams play Aaron? 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: Is it just that temperature? 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: Like? 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: Does it travel with him? 29 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: Like? 30 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: Did you bring Lambeau with him? 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: I have twenty seven? Oh I'm gonna have to rethink 32 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: this whole deal as we go through this this show because. 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: Have you been binge watching Enigma? By the way, how 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: well researched are you in the depths of Aaron Rodgers 35 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: right now? 36 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: Uh? Not that I guess I haven't dove into that yet. 37 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: I see the little clips on X or whatever it 38 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 3: may be. It's like whatever, But I'm still worried about 39 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: twenty seven degrees man like for personal issues. I know 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: the Rams would be prepared, ready to go, but Aaron 41 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: Rodgers and the cold, it just brings back some memories. 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't like those. 43 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Try and perse those memories right hey, before we begins 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: to will you prop those custom kicks up here on 45 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: the recent peanut butter cut for everybody to see. This 46 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: is why our audience is here. This is give the 47 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: people what. 48 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: They want to. 49 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can see that as I 50 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: kick JV's microphone, but. 51 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: It's all good. Yeah, a couple of Air Force ones. 52 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: Should we talk some football. 53 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: Let's take the time, let's go. 54 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Am I wrong that this is the ultimate trap game. 55 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I can't think recency buys. I can't think of another 56 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: trap game like this one for the Los Angeles Rams. 57 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Why are you looking at. 58 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: Me like that? 59 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: You don't think I don't think it is. 60 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: They're playing really good football right offensively they are, at 61 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: least you're. 62 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Talking about the Jets. The Jets, Yeah we'll get there. 63 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: But like, okay, you beat your rival in Santa Clair, 64 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: you sweep the forty nine ers. You got a nice 65 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: long weekend to feel first place, to have all the 66 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: press clippings rained down. You know, you got two must 67 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: have division games at home on the backside, and here's 68 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: this trip to face a four win opponent. 69 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: I said, I don't see it that way. No, I 70 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: don't see it that way. I see it like, really, 71 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: the press clippings of being in first was more about 72 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: Seattle losing to Bay than it was the Rams earning 73 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 3: the right to be there. When you hear people talk 74 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: about that Thursday night game, they talk about the weather, 75 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: the rain, the Devondre Campbell situation. It was never the 76 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: Rams just went out there and dominated this offensive, this 77 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: offensive team from the line of scrimmage. Right, they don't 78 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: talk about that. And so to me, if I'm a player, 79 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, like, oh, so we got to show 80 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: you again how dominant we can be on both sides 81 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: of the ball, right, we like it doesn't seem like 82 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: there was enough respect there in this time. And I, 83 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: you know, I in the national media, I'm kind of like, 84 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, the Rams were one in four and you 85 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: guys are burying them, and guys were heard and they 86 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: come roaring back. I see all your posts. They're also 87 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: I don't see many other riders. I see what you said. 88 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: There's not many other writers talking about the Rams. So 89 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: maybe this is one of those games where you got 90 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: to go make an example out of someone. 91 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: You don't think there's any human nature that they're battling 92 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: this week. 93 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's human any human nature that 94 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: they're battling against, but I do think that, you know, 95 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: this is a different Jets team that I expected coming 96 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: into this week. I certainly didn't expect them to be 97 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: coming off a performance like they had last week against 98 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: the Jaguars, just with everything they that they've experienced this season, 99 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: all the all the changes on the coaching staff and 100 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: and everything else, to see that you know, Aaron Rodgers 101 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: and DeVante Adams are still playing at a high level 102 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: or still giving it. They're all essentially at this point 103 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: like it's a team not to be taken lightly. For 104 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: for sure. 105 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: This week, I am thankful for that because I was 106 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: watching Son and like, of course, of course they come 107 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: back in that second half and they turned back the 108 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: clock and they look like they did when they were 109 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: playing together in Green Bay. 110 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: They're fighting for they're fighting to be on the Jets again. 111 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: I feel like I think it's like Aaron Rodgers is 112 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: gonna do this whole thing in the off season, like 113 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm gonna go sit in darkness, I'm 114 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: gonna do all this stuff. 115 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: Then I'm just saying quarterback, I'll mentor yeah, yeah, I'll. 116 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: Play another year. Why not? And Davante is over here 117 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: like I still got it. Garrett Wilson's like, throw me 118 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: the ball. Like there's so many different pieces on this team. 119 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: It's it's it's amazing to see they only have four 120 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: wins with all the offensive pieces. Again their offensive lines issue, 121 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: But like, I just don't see it, Like there's too 122 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: many good players on that team to say. 123 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: Like Hece Hall's knee is healed all of a. 124 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: Sudden, Yeah, everybody's right. When the Rams come to town. 125 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Have you thought yet this week about that game at 126 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium against the Jets in twenty twenty, when I've 127 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: never seen a motivational mismatch like that one. Rams had 128 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: a chance to go win the division. Jets had every 129 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: reason to lose, including one big one named Trevor Lawrence. 130 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: You talk about any given Sunday from that moment forward, 131 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: I vowed to never not that I took that one 132 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: for granted, but I vowed never to take another NFL 133 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: game for granted after that happened. 134 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: Frank Gore's that's all I remember it was. It was 135 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: Frank Gord like, he's old, He's not supposed to be 136 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: doing this. He's breaking tackles, finds a way to get 137 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: in the end zone. I was like, what is going on? 138 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: I remember that the Jets. 139 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: We owe them, Okay, we owe all right, We'll circle 140 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: back to them. By the end of this edition of 141 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Between the horns before we put the two most recent 142 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: wins in our rear view mirror, though, do you want 143 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: to tell some takeaways both from San Francisco and I 144 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: think how it ties into the win over Buffalo in 145 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, Sean mcvay's overriding point that that 146 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: stretch of five days to show that we can win 147 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: in different ways. How much do you think that impacts 148 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: what the Rams are capable of from this point forward. 149 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said about just being 150 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: able to have control in those situations or I guess 151 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: controlling the outcome. And what I mean by that is 152 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: you think about the ways that the Chiefs have won 153 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: some of their close calls. I mean, again still counts 154 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: the same as the rams wins, but especially as you 155 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: get closer to the playoffs, being able to, you know, 156 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: like I said, have control or be in control of 157 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: those outcomes and having it be more your responsibility than say, 158 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, a botch snap or you know something that 159 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: what could maybe considered you know, rare unlucky working out 160 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: in your favor. 161 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: I think that boats really well for the Rams. 162 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one. I think the Rams have been lucky, 163 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: but I believe luck is preparation times talent what equals luck, right, 164 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: because you got guys that are in position to make plays, 165 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: and I think they're finding a way, right, And finding 166 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: a way is the scariest thing about it because you 167 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: start to believe this ball is going to have an opportunity. 168 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: If I'm like Darius Williams, right, he gave up a 169 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: post to George Kittle, he was nowhere near him and 170 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: then comes back in the same similar situation, they do 171 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: a double move on him. They try to throw it 172 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: to the ram killer Juwan Jennings, and he's right there 173 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: to make a play and pretty much steal the game. 174 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: And so when you have the thought process of find 175 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: a way, you don't allow little things that happened early 176 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: in the game to affect you. If you go back 177 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: to the Bills game, find a way, figure out a 178 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: way to close this game out however it needs to be. 179 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: You find a way to do it, and then they 180 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: do it. And so when you have that mentality in 181 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: that mindset, you practice a little bit different. The guys 182 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: focus and meetings are a little bit different because they 183 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: know any given play can be the one player that 184 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: will kind of break the Cambe's back, the stral that 185 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: breaks the Campbell's back, and guys are waiting for those moments, 186 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: and that's what you saw. And like we talked about 187 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: it on the broadcast, Sean was like, listen, we have 188 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: to run the football. 189 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: That's my biggest takeaway is whether you're scoring forty four 190 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: or not scoring any touchdowns. In both games, he was 191 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: willing and determined to run it a dozen times more 192 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: than he threw it. I'm not sure if that's maturity 193 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: or what it is, but I don't think in an 194 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: earlier iteration of maybe his career, when you're struggling like 195 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: you are to throw the football on offense in that 196 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: first quarter at San Francisco, that he chills and doesn't 197 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: chase that game and just willing to embrace what that 198 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: moment was. 199 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: Those three points right before half were huge, and there 200 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: were straight runs like here you go, we're just gonna 201 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: get the field goal range. We'll figure it out, and 202 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: that again, that's the whole fighting away mentality, like Okay, 203 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: Matthew Safford, Yeah, we want to throw the football, but 204 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: right now the balls he can't grip it, he can't 205 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: throw it. And we talked about that when we interviewed 206 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: him about how wet it was. It was just wetter 207 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: than what they thought it was gonna be. And we 208 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: can't throw the football, so guess what was gonna turn 209 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: around a handed off. We're gonna get these three points. 210 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: We'll go in the half, we'll make our adjustments, will 211 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: come out, and we do what we have to do. 212 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: Rain stops. There you go. 213 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: You just made me think similarly to the end of 214 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: the first half against Buffalo too, there was a chance 215 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: to put your foot on the accelerator and go there, 216 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: and not that he played it conservatively. They took a look, 217 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily in the making, so they said let's 218 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: get to the half. Let's come out and get that 219 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: first possession. 220 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: Afterwards, Oldashan would have tried to take a shot there 221 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: taking shots. 222 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: So before we leave behind, I'll say this, I think 223 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers played badly. I don't care one bit, 224 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: doesn't undermind anything that the Rams did, but I think 225 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: they played a bad game on Thursday night. 226 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: I think Drake Greenlow going out his achilles tightening up 227 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: on him played a huge role. 228 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Completely different and to all. 229 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: The Rams fans out there, like Fred Warner is awesome 230 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 3: and Bosa. None of that works unless you have Drake 231 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: Greenlaw out there. We saw that in the first half. 232 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: He had ten tackles in the first half, Like he 233 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: is literally the heart and soul of this team. When 234 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: he goes down, that defense looks completely different. Hu Funga 235 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: didn't know what he was doing. Guys are all like, 236 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: it's just it's crazy to see one guy and that's 237 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: not the guy that gets paid right, he's up for 238 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: a contract. He goes out and the defenses goes with him. 239 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: H it's bad. And then you have the guy leaving 240 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: at third quarter, which is to say, made me feel 241 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: so much better. Just won. There's disarray in the Niners organization. 242 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 3: I love it. 243 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: Can I just say something. I know you well enough 244 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: to know you liked beating the forty nine ers without 245 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown. That was you could not have drawn that 246 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: up any better for your text threads up there in 247 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: Northern California. 248 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: Could you have guys don't even respond anymore. Just I 249 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 3: just you know, when the Rams won the game, I 250 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: just sent the demon emoji smile face, just so you know, 251 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: like this, no matter what, we got. 252 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: You a muddy run, first field goal driven. 253 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: That's what you guys want. You guys want to be physical, tough. 254 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: Here you go. We could do it too. 255 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: All right, three games to go. I wonder from your 256 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: guys perspective, in what ways do the Rams look playoff ready? 257 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: And then my follow up will be what do they 258 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: still need to improve on? But let's start with in 259 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: what ways do you feel like the Rams are equipped 260 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: for the postseason based on their record currently? 261 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: Well, going back to the discussion we're having about being 262 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: able to run the football and kind of the ability 263 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: to do that, even if it means exceeding pass attempts, Like, 264 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: really the execution there is the biggest thing for me, 265 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: because you need to be able to control time and 266 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: possession in the playoffs, especially as you get deeper and 267 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: deeper into the postseason, and just the way that it's 268 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: opening up the offense and you know, maybe even taking 269 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: off some pressure on the some pressure off of the defense. 270 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: You know, the teams that have in the past that 271 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: have made those deep runs, I feel like have been 272 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: able to be efficient in the run game, get the 273 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: most out of their run game. Even if it's not 274 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: something that's an out of this world performance, it's still 275 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: been enough to you know, sustain those drives and keep 276 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: the offense ahead of the sticks and like I said, 277 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 2: just take some pressure off of their defense and keep 278 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: those other teams at bay. 279 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, it's two things. One, making the necessary 280 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: adjustments regardless of contract, how you're feeling. Putting Bowlimmeer at center. 281 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: That lets me know that you're ready to go to 282 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: the playoffs and make a run. Because you're putting the 283 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 3: guy that plays the best, right, and he goes in 284 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: after that Miami Dolphins game, you put him back in 285 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: offensive line is kind of set in what they need 286 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: to be and then they're healthy. Right, Like at the 287 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: end of the day, you're looking we look at Detroit. 288 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: I know we're gonna talk about a little bit, like 289 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: you're out there with dues that weren't even on your 290 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: roster in week five starting right, it's hard to combat 291 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: that and you know, and so for me, being able 292 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: to make the necessary adjustments both personnel wise and play 293 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: call wise are huge, Right, Willing to run the ball 294 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: when when you want to throw in those type of things, 295 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: but also having a healthy team. It's gonna be huge 296 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: going into the playoffs. 297 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: What about early down run success on defense? Because since 298 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: they got wiped at home, right Saekwon Barkley had that day, 299 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: there's been a good track record of success now, like 300 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: going to New Orleans, limiting that game to what they 301 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: did coming home and making the Bills one dimensional, and 302 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: even in San Francisco, like I I get it, like 303 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel helped tackle that run as much as the 304 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Rams did. I'm not undermining that, But at the same time, 305 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: I think a three game sample size might be indicative 306 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: of some improvements, adjustments that the Rams have made that 307 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: could play well down the stretch here. 308 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: I feel like Kobe Turner is kind of the cog 309 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: to that though. Okay, he's done a great job of 310 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: taking on double teams and winning his one on one 311 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: blocks more than anyone. I think that on that defensive line, 312 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: right if we ever called we're calling the game, it's 313 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: like Kobe Turner right there with a tackle first down, 314 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: right then he's able to then flip around and come 315 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: back on third down and get pressure on the quarterback. 316 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: He's playing some of his best football, but they're they're 317 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: playing off of his energy. Bobby Brown in certain situations 318 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: has been a dominant guy to the to the at 319 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: the attack of a point right or the point of 320 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: attack excuse me right where he's going on a tackle 321 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: and a tight end or a tackle in the guard. 322 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: He's pushing those guys back. Just the just the ability 323 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: to be able to stop the run on the early downs. 324 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: And it's funny when you have older guys. The saying is, 325 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 3: you work early so you can have fun late, right, 326 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: So you want to stop on early down so you 327 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: could rush the passer. But Bobby Brown does never get 328 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: to rush the passer, right. But he's bought into what 329 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: his role is, and I think that's important. 330 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: One of the great things about winning last Thursday and 331 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: having the mini buys it sets you up stue for 332 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: a great week of practice and the time on task 333 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: I think has been the biggest driver of success here 334 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season for the Los 335 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Where can they still grow to not just 336 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: get in the dance, but maybe do some damage once 337 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: they do. 338 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just making sure that they continue 339 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: to have that momentum with the run game like we 340 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: talked about, and just maintaining that continuity that you know 341 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: we were talking about with health and whatnot, but really 342 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: just continuing to make sure you have that marriage to 343 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: the run in the past, because as we've talked about, 344 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: and as we've heard McVeigh talk about, you know, for 345 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: this offense to operate at its peak, if you don't 346 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: have that, then you know, it becomes one dimensional. And 347 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: you know, see we see some of the performances like 348 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: we saw earlier in the season, and so I think 349 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: if you see more of that, maybe there's room to 350 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: grow there a little bit. But to me, like we've 351 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: talked about, I think it's trending in the right direction 352 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: where you know, we're starting to see that come to 353 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: life more like we've been accustomed to. 354 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: To me, I think it's coverage on the back end 355 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: more consistent. Right. We saw Cam Curl take a big 356 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: step on Thursday Night covering George Kittle. Awesome, But then 357 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: we've also seen guys running wide open, Right, So having 358 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: more consistent coverage and I guess a closer proximity to 359 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: the targeted receiver would be something that's going to be 360 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: needed as you get to the playoffs, right, because let's 361 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: just say you're playing in Minnesota Vikings, who are you know, 362 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: they're hot? They could be your first round pick. Play 363 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: for you right here in so far they have guys 364 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: that are moving right now. T J. Hawkinson's back, he 365 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: wasn't here when you played last. Addison's playing well obviously, 366 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: justin Jefferson like, you got to have stick your coverage. 367 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: I feel like when once you get to the playoffs, 368 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: and that's what the Rams had when they won the 369 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. It was just your overall guys were like 370 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: when the ball's in there, there was a guy on 371 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: that guy right. It wasn't like a big space of 372 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: what we've seen, and it hasn't been a lot of it. 373 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: I just need more. You just want more consistency of 374 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: guys being closer to the to the receiver when thrown. 375 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: Too, I would say too, especially because while it doesn't 376 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: seem like it's been as big of an issue as 377 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: it was earlier in the season, there's still some explosive 378 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: plays in the past game that have you know, surfaced 379 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: or crept up and you know, hurt the Rams defense 380 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: in that secondary. So trying to avoid those as much 381 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: as possible, i'd say, is also part of that. 382 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember about a month ago when you were 383 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: in that seat and we said coach mjd solved the 384 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: red zone for us, right, and you gave some helpful 385 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: pointers to help turn the Rams season around on short fields. 386 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: I got another challenge for you, Okay, okay, help the 387 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: Rams turn around their first quarter. Help the Rams get 388 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: off to faster starts. Because what was at the ninth 389 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: scoreless first quarter of the season for the Rams in 390 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Santa Clara last week. They're a bottom five team in 391 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: the NFL in terms of first quarter production. That's living dangerously. 392 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's definitely tough. 393 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: Let's see because it goes into the trap game theme 394 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: that I presented earlier too, Like what's the easiest way 395 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: to avoid a trap game in New York? Can never 396 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: really throttle them early, make them disinterested in playing in 397 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: twenty five degree weather. 398 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think the first thing is getting your tight 399 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: ends more involved in the passing game. The boot game 400 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: should be big. We talked about that on Thursday night. 401 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: We didn't see the boot game until it was needed 402 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 3: in the in the fourth quarter. Starting fast starts with 403 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: the first play. Whatever the first play is. You want 404 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: to get four yards, right, and you're supposed to pick 405 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: your best play to get four yards or more on 406 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: your first play. What are the Rams average on the 407 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: boot game. I feel like starting the game with that 408 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: getting the ball out quick and man, it might have 409 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: been Minnesota they did that where they started the game 410 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: with a quick boot, easy throw, just get the ball 411 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: out to the flat. 412 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: I think that and Buffalo are the only two first 413 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: drive touchdowns of this season. 414 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so to me, that's if that's where we 415 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: have to be regards if they know it, we have 416 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: to figure out a way to get plus four just 417 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: to get to get in front of the change so many times, 418 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: or a hitch topooka right that hits he caught against 419 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: Ward was amazing, right, even though it was good coverage, 420 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: he was able to make a play. Anything that gets 421 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: you ahead of the change on your first down, that's 422 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: going to start the drive. So the first play is 423 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: the most important. And well I'll make sure we harp 424 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: on that this week when we call the game. But 425 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: if you can get four more on the first play, 426 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: a little conv okay, you know, now second down its 427 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: third and manageable. We're able to kind of get a 428 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 3: first down. Then we just we kind of get in 429 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: a rhythm. But if it's second and ten, second and eight, 430 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: now it's like, oh we got it. It's a more 431 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: uphill battle. So that first play, if you want to 432 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: start faster and score points, it's all about that first play. 433 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: Whatever play you decide that's going to get you four 434 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: yards or more, we'll get you going. 435 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: Cannot stress this enough. The Los Angeles Rams are not 436 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: overlooking Week sixteen. Neither are we not that it matters, 437 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: but we do owe it to our audience. A talk 438 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: playoff picture. I know, Stu, you kind of did a 439 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: deep dive this week. You want to lay out the 440 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: circumstances for us. With the Rams leading the way at 441 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: eight and six, they control their own destiny. Seahawks also 442 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: eight and six, they too, control their own destiny. Cardinal's 443 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: still a factor. At seven and seven, they need the 444 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: Seahawks to lose, but they still have a path. 445 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's still very much up for grabs, not 446 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: only in the division, but just in the playoff picture. 447 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: And again a loss of the Jets doesn't completely eliminate 448 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: those chances for the Rams obviously in terms of winning 449 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: the NFC West and ultimately getting into the playoffs. But 450 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: you know, I go back to what McVeigh said, where 451 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: you know, ultimately, like winning is what allows them to 452 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: continue to control their playoff fate. And so yeah, you know, 453 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: you get a win over the Jets, and you get 454 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: some help from the Vikings and get some help from 455 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 2: the Panthers. The Vikings play the Seahawks, the Panthers play 456 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: the Cardinals. That sets you up and puts you in 457 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: a really good position next week. And then obviously keeping 458 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: on an eye on Buccaneers and Cowboys as well, because 459 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: because again with the Buccaneers being the three seed, you 460 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: know that depending on how they do in that game, 461 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: that could potentially impact, you know, some movement for the Rams, 462 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: depending on how things go for them this week. 463 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: It's a good point because if you're like, oh, what 464 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: are the chances the two is going to lose at 465 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: home to the seven in the playoffs, I'll rewind time 466 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: one year and think about what the Packers did in 467 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: Dallas last year, Like, there is real value to potentially 468 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: earning that three seed. I see kind of three brackets 469 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: in the NFC picture. There's the race for the number 470 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: one seed, right Detroit, Philly, Minnesota, all with twelve wins. 471 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: Let's start there. Who do you like to prevail in 472 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: that battle for the one seed? 473 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: It looks like Philly. I think Philly will probably get 474 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 3: the one seed the way they're playing, the way their 475 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: schedule kind of plans out. But Minnesota, man, Like, it's 476 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: hard for me not to talk about them and feel 477 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: like they don't have a chance because they're playing some 478 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: of the best football. Sam Darnald, I mean, I'm a 479 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: Sam Darnald hater. He chose to go to the other school. 480 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 3: He didn't start well in his career, and I guess 481 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: most people used to tell me flowers bloom at their 482 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: own time, with Sam's starting to bloom. He's playing some 483 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: of the best football that we've seen, and he has 484 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: this team believing in them right, like for them to 485 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: go beat Chicago the way they beat Chicago, and they 486 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 3: have Seattle like they're ready to go. They're primed and 487 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: ready to go. And O'Connell's doing a great job with 488 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: all the guys that he has, getting guys motioned, and 489 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: I mean, they're just they're good. I will say Philly 490 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 3: because Philly's more talented, but I wouldn't be surprised if 491 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: Minnesota wins it. 492 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: Philly has the easier path at Washington home to Dallas, 493 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: home to New York as opposed to Minnesota motivated going 494 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: to Seattle, which is really important for the Rams chances 495 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay at Detroit is how they finish. Who do 496 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: you think wins the NFC North. 497 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: I think the Vikings have a real shot. I mean, 498 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: as surprising as that may seem to some, it's I 499 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: just look at I mean we were talking about this 500 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: before the show, like the amount of injuries that Detroit 501 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: has piling up right now defensively and then also now 502 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: just this past week with David Montgomery. I just don't 503 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 2: know how sustainable that is. I don't count them out, 504 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: because again, Dan Campbell really has a good pulse of 505 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: that team and how to keep it motivated. But it's 506 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean, they've been in some they've they've been in 507 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: some shootouts offensively or with some of these games recently, 508 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: and I just don't know, because of the health of 509 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: that defense, like how much longer they can, like I said, 510 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 2: sustain those performances and ultimately overcome that. Whereas the Vikings 511 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: I feel like have a healthier defense, and between the 512 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: two of them, I think are a little bit better 513 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: positioned because of that health to potentially win that division. 514 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: So mentioned those three brackets, we talked about the top one. 515 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: In the six to seventh spot, you got Green Bay 516 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: with ten wins, and on a roll, you got Washington 517 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: with nine wins in that seventh spot. And then we 518 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: get to that middle mix, and this is where the 519 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: Rams are with Tampa Bay and Yattle eight wins apiece 520 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: in Arizona, who we mentioned. Here's what I find interesting. 521 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: The Seahawks play on Thursday in Chicago, the day after Christmas, 522 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: on a short week seventeen, so the Rams will know 523 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: the score well in advance of what we now know 524 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: is a Saturday night primetime game at SOFI Stadium. I'll 525 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: pause here to say, get your tickets Saturday night Cardinals 526 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: and Rams in a massive week seventeen showdown. But that's 527 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: a really interesting shape to that week because you'll know 528 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: what the Seahawks outcomes are, not just this Sunday, but 529 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: again next week before the Rams play again. 530 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it could potentially set up a clinching scenario for 531 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: the Rams. Says as soon as next week, again depending 532 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: on how everything this week shakes out, but especially with 533 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: that Thursday night game, who knows what we could be 534 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: looking at on that Saturday night game. 535 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: Can I say that I'm still scared of Arizona. 536 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: You should be. 537 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they're physical and Connor's running well, Kyler's playing 538 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 3: some of the best ball that he's been playing for 539 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: a while. He's taking shots now. The Patriots did a 540 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: great job of clothes like shutting down Marvin Harrison Junior, 541 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: but he's still a playmaker. Like Arizona is sneaky, and 542 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: I think the only reason that I feel like this 543 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: would be a trap game is because of how good 544 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: they are, what they've been doing kind of in the desert. 545 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: No one's really talked about them, and you're like, we 546 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: got to get prepared for that and this. That'd be 547 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: the only reason I could call this a trap game. 548 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a nice revenge opportunity and we 549 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: hope that it carries the biggest stakes of the season. 550 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk some personnel for the Rams, because we haven't 551 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: touched on Tyler Higbee's expected return. I think that's big 552 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: for this time, this team, in this moment. What do 553 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: you think he adds to an already built out tight 554 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: end room that I think statistically is probably underachieved, but 555 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: came up clutch most recently at San Francisco. 556 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think it gives him. One, you get a 557 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: guy that's been there before, that's confident in what this 558 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: system is, has been around the longest tenure ram which 559 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: means a lot. But two, I think again, if you 560 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: can get him going, his ability to be to catch 561 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: the football, a lot of those we talked about start fast, Right, 562 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 3: How many times have we seen Matthew Safage whip out 563 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: an arrow route to him but he gets seven, eight yards? Like, 564 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: we just haven't had that ability yet. And I don't 565 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: know why it hasn't been there, but just that alone, 566 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: where you can throw a two yard route, it can go, 567 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: he can turn it up for six or six or 568 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: eight more. It just helps you start faster so that 569 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: there's a lot And I think also in the blocking game, 570 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: like he's big enough, strong enough to block some of 571 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: these guys in the run game, they create a little 572 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: bit more removed than what they've been getting to open 573 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 3: up bigger holes. 574 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: What are some of the things that Sean Matthew were 575 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: saying this week in anticipation of Higbee's return. 576 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, just that it's going to be a big boost, 577 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: you know, personality, energy, whatever you want to say about him. 578 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: I mean all those things beyond just the tangibles that 579 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: he brings and the traits that brings as a player 580 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: are ultimately what he's really gonna be providing this team. 581 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: I mean, even out in practice, like that energy has 582 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: been really noticeable and you know, infectious with the rest 583 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: of the group. And you know, like we talked about 584 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: that familiar with the offense, you can't discount that either, 585 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: And so I mean you look at that collectively, I 586 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: feel like it's going to be really really huge. 587 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: Never hurts to have the most prolific tight end in 588 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: Rams franchise history joining your group for the final three 589 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: games of the regular season. I just want to speak 590 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: something into existence here. Tyler Higbee, the way that he's rehabbed, 591 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: deserves a rematch against the Detroit Lions in January. I 592 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: hope that comes to fruition here or there, however it 593 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: plays out. I want to see Higbee against the Lions 594 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: next month. 595 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 3: I like that you talked about the energy, you know, 596 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 3: big rig Higg, Like that's what you need. You need 597 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna drag guys and carry guys. We 598 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: were talking about that Jets game. There was a highlight 599 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: that was on X and it was higby like catching 600 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: the ball, spinning off three four guys and running the 601 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: extra twenty yards like that was. 602 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: The longest catching run of his career, forty four yards. 603 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: Where's that been? 604 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: Got a touchdown in that game too, right, Where's that been? 605 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: Right? So having that energy back is going to be huge. 606 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: What about Kobe Durant. 607 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was medically cleared to return, he was, 608 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: he was limited in practice on Wednesday, and so trending 609 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: into positive directions what Vey had said Monday about his 610 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: availability for not only practice, but you know, being active 611 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: and playing against the Jets, which again you know, like 612 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: we've talked about with Rogers and Adams, but really you know, 613 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: when you're going against a duo like DeVante Adams and 614 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, you're gonna need somebody like Kobe Durant to 615 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: you know, pair up with Darius Williams to try to 616 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: counter those guys. So all signs, you know, again trending 617 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: in the right direction positive for for Kobe to be 618 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 2: available on Sunday, which which will be as good as 619 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: a Kello I should say, played last week. It will 620 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: still be still be good to have Kobe out there. 621 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: I would say, no one benefits more from the mini 622 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: by than Kyron Williams, the Rams running back with nearly 623 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: sixty carries in a five day window, beating the Bills 624 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers. How is he set up 625 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: for success in this closing stretch. 626 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: You know, first and foremost, as a running back, you 627 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: want to be sore, right, I want to go into 628 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: a game knowing that I played the game Kyroen has 629 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: not only probably should be sore, but the way he's played, 630 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: with the physicality, the breaking of the tackles, the energy 631 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: that he's been showing over the last couple of weeks. 632 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: This bye week is gonna allow him to recover and 633 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 3: be able to go. But then I think, I think 634 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: they're gonna if they lean on him the way they've 635 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: done it and Blake Korum. They lean on both those guys, 636 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the key to their success throughout the 637 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 3: next three weeks, right controlling the clock, controlling the line 638 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: of scrimmage, setting up play action, pass, taking your shots. 639 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: But he should be ready to go. He should be. 640 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: I mean, this is what you do. All that training. 641 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: He trains where I used to train too, So he's 642 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: he should be ready to roll. Down this stretch with 643 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: the way he works out, And I talked to the guy, 644 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: said he's been this offseason. He was, he was in 645 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: there getting it in, so his body should be ready. 646 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: And I'm excited to see him go. 647 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna be so inspired by the Friday night 648 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: playoff win in South Bend too, from the fighting irish 649 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: that I think he'll. 650 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: Be no question. 651 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, I'll bookmark this part of the show. Okay, 652 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: I'll keep this in mind. 653 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, do we have like a push up deal going? 654 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: Have you seen this guy's work out. 655 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: That's come on? 656 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk Jets picked as a contender. They've been one 657 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: of the most disappointing teams in the National Football League 658 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: four intent and yet, and yet, even though their defense 659 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: is taken a dive, they've got enough firepower on offense 660 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: to be a problem. I don't like that. Sigh. 661 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: I don't neither. Sometimes if you get just a little 662 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: glimpse of hope, and it's like that little spark starts 663 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: a wildfire. And that's what I'm scared of. What happened 664 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 3: in Jacksonville, to be honest with you, is that all 665 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers is moving out of the pocket, 666 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: throwing the ball deep. Deavante Adams is running past guys 667 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: like he's healthy. 668 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: Isn't that the biggest thing? Like Aaron Rodgers looks healthy. 669 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: He hasn't looked healthy either until literally Jacksonville. So that's 670 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: the scary part. Now they do have some turmoil going 671 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: on because Garrett Wilson's very frustrat there and so don't 672 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: be surprised if you see him get targets early in 673 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: the game. But if they can get those two guys going, 674 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: that's gonna be an issue. Right, They're not the running 675 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: the football is something that they're still trying to work on. 676 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: Offensive line is kind of in disarrayed. Guys are banged 677 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: up and hurting. All that stuff. They got a young 678 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: guy started, the kid from Penn State. But if you 679 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: want to really, if you want to stop the Jets, 680 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: you have to corral Aaron Rodgers early, Like you have 681 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: to get to Aaron Rodgers early and have him start 682 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 3: doing the you know, his little antics, the sad face, 683 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: the throwing the ball down. 684 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think incompletions like dirt balls 685 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers will be a sign of early success. 686 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: Because you don't get to him like. He's as good 687 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: as I've ever seen at protecting himself. They've invested in 688 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: their offensive line. I get it, but it's not like 689 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: their offensive line has been world beating. He just knows. 690 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: He knows what you're throwing at him. He knows when 691 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: the down is up, he knows when to get rid 692 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: of it. 693 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: I have to tell you this story. So James Jones, 694 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: a good friend of mine. It was when the no 695 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: fly zone in Denver was going on, and they have 696 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: been practicing all week and they're all excited, and James said, 697 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: they're going out right before the game. They're like, go 698 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: out and play after the warm ups. He was like, hey, look, 699 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: I've been watching them. If your route is supposed to 700 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: be a ten yards, making it eight because the ball 701 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: has to come out like And that's the kind of 702 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: stuff that he's gonna tell. If you start getting to 703 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: him early, he's gonna have those guys cut their routes 704 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: off because he has to get the ball out quick. 705 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: And so to me, again, if the Rams defensive line 706 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: can really that's gonna be the key to this game. 707 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: If they can get around Rogers and get him frustrated 708 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: because the receivers are already kind of starting to DeVante's 709 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: already barked a little bit. Gary Wilson's now barking. If 710 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: you can make that whole offense frustrated, you have a 711 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: great chance. 712 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: Look, when you face a team that's already fired a 713 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: general manager, a head coach, a play caller, there's gonna 714 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: be some volatility there. The upside volatility stew can be dangerous. 715 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: But the downside volatility, whether it's an inability to run 716 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: the football, whether it's their defense giving up twenty five 717 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: points a week, like, that's there too, and it's there 718 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: for the Rams to take advantage of. 719 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 720 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's that's why I was going to say 721 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: two with just getting to the offense and creating that 722 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: frustration early, because they haven't had the complimentary performances from 723 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: the defense to match some of those performances by the 724 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: offense this year. And you know that defense has shown 725 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: some vulnerabilities, especially against the runs. So if you if 726 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: you can get to that offense early and like like 727 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: we were saying, get them frustrated, I think that makes 728 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: it easier to again take advantage of that defense that's 729 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: had its fair share of challenges this season? 730 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: What else, what do we miss? Other keys of the game, 731 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: other things you want to get off your chest before 732 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: we go. 733 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see how this team plays in the cold, 734 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: even though I know Detroit's in a dome. But if 735 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: you have to go to Philly, it's gonna be cold, right, 736 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: everyone else is kind of domeed. 737 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: But so checking another weather box. 738 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, just so, just like if you get into the playoffs, 739 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: you just never know what happens. You may have to 740 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: end up going somewhere you don't want to go. 741 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember being in the meadowlands last year? Rams 742 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: coming away with a narrow victory, and then we get 743 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: on the plane and we wait and we wait, and 744 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: a good outcome lands from Loomenfield in Seattle. It was 745 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh last year. Maybe it's Minnesota this year. I love 746 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: when history repeats itself. 747 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: It's been doing that a lot this year, hasn't it history? Yes, 748 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: at least last year. I don't know if that's history, Bud. 749 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the second half run certainly feels familiar. 750 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: So I'm done. 751 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: You're done, Ready to go? Go? Rams? 752 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: All right, go pack, go shopping, bundle up. 753 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I may be whining this game. 754 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: I can feel it. I can just feel it, you 755 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: know how you can feel that. I think I'm gonna be. 756 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: I would be tough, though, I'll tough it out right on. 757 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: See you in South Bend. Kind of sorry, good luck 758 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: you guys deserve. It's been a good season for the Hoosiers, 759 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: for m j D, for Stud Jackson. I'm JB. 760 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: Long. 761 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here for this edition and Between the 762 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: Horns presented by your Southern California Toyo to Deals 763 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: If you get it.