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428
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Speaker 1: see different. Right, So, if you want to see something different,

429
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Speaker 1: if you want to have more money, if you want

430
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: to have more access, it's up to you. You cannot

431
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: put that pressure on anybody, no agent, no no football franchise,

432
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: and Malcolm's case, no one can do it but you.

433
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Speaker 1: So I talked to him about all these ideas that

434
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Speaker 1: he has in his mind and how they're executed, and

435
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: he has a really simple philosophy. I tell as many

436
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: guys as I can when they start to act like, Okay,

437
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: how are you doing all these things? Is because you

438
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: know you so many people are gonna make money off

439
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: of you, right, And if I asked you to invest

440
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: in their stuff so that they can do their companies

441
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: and their infrastructure to make them more money. And it's like,

442
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: as an athlete or as anybody with a high network,

443
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: you hit the lottery tomorrow. If you don't invest into

444
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: your infrastructure around you, then the only place then, the

445
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: only you know, as far as you can go, You're

446
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: ceiling is based off of your own strength and expertise.

447
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know about everybody else, but like my

448
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: strength and expertise up up until probably recently is in football.

449
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: Like I never had a job anywhere else, never had

450
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Speaker 1: an internship anywhere else. So how can I expect to

451
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: take the money that I've made and then flip that

452
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Speaker 1: into and become a you know, crazy, you know, sad

453
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: business savvaty person. I gotta I gotta invest in people

454
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: around me who are smarter than me in different areas

455
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: and so Malcolm Mink is all you know people I

456
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: grew up with who I look who looked like me,

457
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: who are in their own professional fields, who were making

458
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: money for other corporations. And I said, no, let's do

459
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: this together. Let's come together, all of us have some

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Speaker 1: ownership and what we're doing, and you can do exactly

461
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: what you've been doing for these companies for us, and

462
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: let's build it for us like that. And when I

463
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: did that, it's just exponentially grew my vision for what

464
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: we could even accomplish. Right if I told you, I

465
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: can go around the locker room right now, or go

466
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: through the parking lot of the locker room right now

467
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: and see a ton of cars over a hundred dollars.

468
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: Yet I actually do invest fifty into something that's gonna

469
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: make you more, and it's I don't know, or you

470
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: can hear. You can have an advisor who's white who

471
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: come to tell you this is a great deal and

472
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: you'll blindly put your money with it because they're white

473
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: and and Cambara Bell tells you they know what they're

474
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Speaker 1: doing and we can do. And it is a whole

475
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: documentary on how many players have lost their money due

476
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: to bad investment, somebody not doing due diligence getting stolen

477
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: from right, and it's it's because you like the infrastructure.

478
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: And so if you're gonna spend the money anywhere invested

479
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Speaker 1: into your own self, like better on yourself and the

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Speaker 1: people around you, not him. Jenkins Safety for the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints will be back on Naked in a minute.

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Speaker 1: Every champion and carry champion has to be a champion,

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Speaker 1: a champion and carry chappion and carry Chapion, A champion

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Speaker 1: and carry Chappion and carry Chappius the sports and the

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Speaker 1: tame aking naked work. Every champion and carry champion is

486
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Speaker 1: to be a champion, a champion, they carry Champion, they champion,

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Speaker 1: they carry Champion and carry champions Sportson and the tame

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Speaker 1: ak and naked warpon. Hey, everybody, thank you for hanging

489
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: out with us. I had to pay some bills, you know.

490
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: It is the holidays. I want to buy some Christmas presents. Um.

491
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: But without further ado, here's more from Malcolm Jenkins. So

492
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: not only is Malcolm really aware financially of the responsibility

493
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: and obviously the key part of being a philanthropist and

494
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: giving back to your community, but he is. As I

495
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, I call him an activist, but he doesn't

496
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: prefer that word, which I get um being activated is

497
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: more so the word for him, an advocate, if you will.

498
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: And I was really curious as to when this became,

499
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, a part of his life, sincerely, a part

500
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: of his life and something he wanted to participate in. Well,

501
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: he started early, you know, his first year which was

502
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: in the league, he started a foundation, right he and

503
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: his mother started a foundation to give back in the community.

504
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: The next year he started talking about gun violence in

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00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans and making sure that that was really a

506
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: focus in the community, and trying to lend his name

507
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: and his voice two causes that we're trying to stop

508
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: gun violence. But a key moment, a watershed moment for

509
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Speaker 1: many athletes and in America in its in itself right

510
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: is and I'm sure you all may remember Alton Sterling

511
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Philando Castile were shot and killed by police officers. Philando

512
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: Castile's murder was on Facebook. It was it was brutal,

513
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: and I never ever forget how that changed the course

514
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: of direction for myself. So I can only imagine what

515
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: it felt like for Malcolm. And he says that's the

516
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: same year that Colin Kaepernick decided to sit then neil

517
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: during the national anthem, and that put a lot of

518
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: players in a position to either join him or not.

519
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: And according to Malcolm, he was like he found himself

520
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: in a place where he was prepared to step up.

521
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: Enough is enough and usually that's what it takes, right,

522
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: something so jarring that enough is enough. I mean a

523
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: lot of the activists in Philadelphia, I worked with those

524
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: grads roots type of organizations that literally I consider activists

525
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: are people who dedicate their entire lives um to the fight,

526
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: right And I'm like, I'm an athlete, is not my

527
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't live off of the movement. But for me,

528
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: I think I'm I've dedicated my life be an advocate about,

529
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, for those same things, to support those people

530
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: who are doing the work, to add my voice into

531
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: help amplify, you know, this entire movement towards equity, especially

532
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: the agenda of raising you know, the quality of life

533
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: for black people, Like that's you know, and if and

534
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: if the things that I do, you know, if you

535
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: can consider how to activists and then yes, but it's

536
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: not one that I like to throw on myself it's

537
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: it's a little uncomfortable because I respect there's a there's

538
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: a grind to being an activists, like nobody who's truly

539
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: an activist actually wants to be one. It's done out

540
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: of it's done out of a deep, sincere love for

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00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: your community or your people, and it comes with a

542
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: great sacrifice. Um. And and I've only really been in

543
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: that space for less than a decade. And like I said,

544
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: there's people who have been in their entire lives and

545
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: you can start to see the wear on people, like

546
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: the stress, and so I understand, Yeah, I understand what

547
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: it's like. Then you know, my role is different than that,

548
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: and so it's hard for me to really wear that cape.

549
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I still wonder, you know, why my voice is important,

550
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: But I don't let that. I don't confuse that with

551
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: believing that my voice is not important, because I do

552
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: know that it is. I don't necessarily understand why sometimes

553
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: or what makes me different besides my willingness to speak um.

554
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: But you know, so when when those opportunities come, I

555
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: understand that that my voice and my presence of people

556
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: like me adds so much more attention to the cause.

557
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: The people who are doing the work, are invigorated because

558
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: they feel like people are appreciated, and you know, they

559
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: like activates that is a thankless job, like they don't

560
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: get enough thank you or praise or support. So to

561
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: have people like me come and validate these issues means

562
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: a lot needs a lot to our family. That that

563
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: that you have advocates that look like you, that are

564
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: that could be doing anything else, that could be living

565
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: in good life, that are still taking time to say no, no,

566
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: we're collective and this is important also to me. Here's

567
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: what's interesting, um, because we all have jobs, right, unless

568
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: you're independently wealthy or or quite frankly, you all can

569
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: be entrepreneurs. You can people work for you but hopefully

570
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: this isn't the case. But when you work for someone

571
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: that you are not morally aligned with, When you work

572
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: for someone and you know they don't appreciate your contributions,

573
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: When you work for someone and they are blatantly racist

574
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: or some form of ist elitei ist, uh, some form

575
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: of sexist all the ist, Right, how do you reconcile

576
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: your relationship with your employer? Uh? Knowing that you're working

577
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: for them, making them money and then not really being appreciated.

578
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: You know who's up next? Is the mentality. I say

579
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: that to say, Malcolm works for the NFL. The NFL's

580
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: history with its players with racism, Um, it's ugly, it's long,

581
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: it's it's well documented, um and and there are probably

582
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: things in which we just do not know. And twenty

583
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: sixteen was really truly um a year in which athletes

584
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: felt like they could not say how they even now

585
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: currently feel about the NFL. Taking a knee was written

586
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: down by bosses and employers, and there would be quiet

587
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: retaliation for standing up for what is right. How do

588
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: you work and deal in an organization that way? That

589
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: was my question for Malcolm, and he makes it plain.

590
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: But it takes someone to have a different train of

591
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: thought to really see the upside of all of this.

592
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: And I mean it goes without saying obviously, I go

593
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: to work every day to get money. That's how I

594
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: do it. I'm making millions of dollars. You know. The

595
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: right will say, oh, it's because they're millionaires, they need

596
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: to just shut up and get their millions. But it's

597
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: more than that, right, It really truly is more. And

598
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Malcolm explains it so well well. I I look at

599
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: it for what it is. I can look at the

600
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: players in the league over the last since really two

601
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, since Colin first took a knee, I've been

602
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: really proud of the engagement that players have taken upon

603
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: themselves to do to educate themselves, to put themselves in

604
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Speaker 1: their community, to to advocate not only just kind of

605
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: the social media things, but you know, policy changes, uh,

606
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, doing everything from COVID support all the way

607
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: to trying to close the digital divide in black and

608
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: brown communities. Like the players to me, UM have always

609
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: been at the forefront of it and and continue to

610
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: be kind of the ones pushing the narrative for I

611
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: think the NFL, to me, it's falling in line really

612
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: with kind of the mainstream America is doing. It's everybody's

613
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: getting away with the pageantry of it all. If I

614
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: can put a banner here or a flag here to say, hey,

615
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: I support you, then then it appeases kind of that

616
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: that public appetite to to see who's in the fight. Um.

617
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: But but we stopped at looking at what are your

618
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: real practices? Right? What is what is the diversity and

619
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: your board look like the diversity of your decision makers

620
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: look like. Because if it's one thing I know about football,

621
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: it's it's how to create a culture. We talked about

622
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: it all the time. You know the culture of a

623
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: locker room. And whenever you have a bad culture in

624
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: a locker room, the first thing that they do is

625
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: they change the leadership of the locker room, whether it's

626
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: the captains or the coach um. And that's how you

627
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: that's how you change over a culture. And if you

628
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: look at the the leaders of the NFL, all our

629
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: decision makers, nobody has changed. And so how is that?

630
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: At what point did you guys change your mind about

631
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: who you were or did you just do with the

632
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: public acts to get us off your back? And I

633
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: think that's but that's not just the NFL, right, that's

634
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: we see it. And I did some of these zoom

635
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: calls in two thousand and twenty just to speak about

636
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: diversity inclusion. You know, the problem with the NFL in particular,

637
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: we talk about players against the ownership of the league. Um,

638
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: it's really one of those things where there has to

639
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: be a like a mental liberation before there could ever

640
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: be a change of a change of power like players.

641
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: So so everything is stacked up against players. So it's

642
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: just just a simple like organizing, it's a very hard

643
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: thing to do. That's really the hardest part of about active,

644
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: being like an activist, is being able to organize enough

645
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: people to change the status quo and what happens in

646
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: our league. I'm thirteen years in. I don't know how

647
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: many other people are right have been in the league

648
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: that long. The average career is less than three years,

649
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: so you constantly got new players coming in, and when

650
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: you're in a state of survival, then you're oftentimes not

651
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: thinking about the collective. And so we started making decisions.

652
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: We saw it in the last c b A. You

653
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: got like thirty percent, thirty percent of the guys are

654
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: probably not gonna vote or or participated in what's going on.

655
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Then you got some some that are fighting for the

656
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: collective and the others who were just there to get

657
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: their checks and like the status quo because they're doing good.

658
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: So you gotta there. We're two thousand players trying to

659
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: organize against thirty two billionaires. It's not going to change unless, again,

660
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: there is a change in the mentality of the athlete,

661
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Unless the athletes are more financially stable or no better

662
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: or come from you know, understanding these lessons they're on

663
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: and not when they come out of college get a

664
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: million dollar teck and you know all now is supposed

665
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: to know what to do with it. So the biggest

666
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: thing is like, Okay, how do we get to these

667
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: athletes earlier and teach them that you are the product,

668
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: which means that you're the game and that like football players,

669
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: they argue about guaranteed contracts all the time. They look

670
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: the NBA has fully guaranteed contracts, Yes they do, it's

671
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: not in their collective bargaining agreement, which means that the

672
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: NFL p A de Morris Smith or nobody like that.

673
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: They didn't go fight for that. You have free agent

674
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: players that all called each other and said, we're not

675
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: signing any deals this offseason unless we get Yeah. I

676
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is to me is two different things.

677
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: Is one understand how like every athlete is on a

678
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: conveyor belt, and understand how as you pass along this

679
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: conveyor belt in your career, how do people make money

680
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: off of you? Because once you realize how much money

681
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: people make off of you, then you can understand or

682
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: worth right, you don't you don't. You don't understand your

683
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: worth until you understand how much money you're making somebody else.

684
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: And so once you get that, it's like okay, then

685
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: the next step is how to have more ownership in

686
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: whatever it is you do, so whether it's in in

687
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: in in a collective way, because to me, it's all

688
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: about collect a group economics, like how do we do

689
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: this together? Who are people that look like me that

690
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: are in my same situation that are making money? And

691
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: how do I put my money next to their? Because

692
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: because when you look at the top, you know these

693
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: rich white men that are making money on the staff

694
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: and staff of fact, they all do business together. We're athletes.

695
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: Like it's times where we feel like we got to compete.

696
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: It's like competing is only for the field. We step

697
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: all the field like we just part of an entire collective.

698
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: Being a collective is arguably the most important thing that

699
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: we can do as a community. There is strength and numbers.

700
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: I can give you every single cliche about how it's

701
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: more powerful to move together than separately. Why that is

702
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: such a difficult um concept for us to execute as

703
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: black folks, I don't understand, but I do like the

704
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: idea of it all. Imagine if every single NFL player,

705
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: and we're not even talking about Look, it doesn't even

706
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: have to be um the white players, right, if every

707
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: black player decided to kneel and wouldn't go back on

708
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: the field until Colin Kaepernett got a job, he'd be working. Um,

709
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: if the cause was so near and dear to you,

710
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: and even not every single one the majority. But there

711
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: is this fear, let's just say it. There's a fear

712
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: in the community. It's a fear that is in our

713
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: dna because of how we were brought here to this country. Um,

714
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: this fear is I'm not going to keep my money.

715
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: I won't have the money. I was already poor. I

716
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: don't want to go back to being poor. There's a

717
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: fear that permeates existence for a lot of these athletes,

718
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: which is totally understandable. But what Malcolm is saying, I

719
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: think is genius. He is saying, if we work together,

720
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: we're more powerful. If you put our money together, we're

721
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: more powerful, and more importantly, if we change our mindset.

722
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: It's not just about competing on the field. Let's compete

723
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: at this game of life and make money in the process.

724
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Let's make money together. Let's put all of our money

725
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: together and we will be powerful. And to me, the

726
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: thought of that, the imagery, the idea, it makes me hopeful.

727
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: It makes me hopeful whether we can get it done.

728
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm a little hesitant, right, I gotta be honest, but

729
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: it makes me hopeful. Imagine all these athletes working together,

730
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: using their power, getting things done that they want to

731
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: be done. One of the most impactful things that Malcolm

732
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: mentioned is you know you're worth when you realize how

733
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: much money you're making someone else. These guys are making,

734
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: these owners, these owners of franchises, billionaires with a B

735
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: plural billions. These athletes are truly the commodity. But they're

736
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: only getting a fraction, a small fraction of what these

737
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: billionaire owners are making off of them. It's the way

738
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: it's been designed. That is society, that is the world

739
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: in which we live currently, or all these worker bees,

740
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: and we're thinking we're making so much money, but just

741
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: imagine if your boss can pay you that, what are

742
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: they making off of you? Which is why a side note,

743
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: I remember may he Rest in peace, Kobe Bryant when

744
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: he at that very last Laker deal, and maybe it

745
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: was like forty million dollars before the new TV rights

746
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: deals came and you started getting these two million dollar

747
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: deals like Steph Curry, Kobe maybe million dollars for his

748
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: last two years as a Laker. And I remember they

749
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: were like, you bank rupt the team. What are you doing?

750
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: We're not gonna be able to get any players. And

751
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Kobe was like, are you kidding me? This is a business.

752
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Do you know how much money I've made these people

753
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: since I was eighteen as a Los Angeles Laker? How

754
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: much money has the NBA made off of me with

755
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: my jersey sales? Get out of here. Forty million dollars,

756
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: You're welcome. That's a deal. That's a bargain. And I

757
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: remember people were giving him such a hard time and

758
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: he said, come on. He knew new TV deals were coming, right,

759
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: And with these new TV deals, you gotta pay these

760
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: owners and you pay these franchises, So you gotta pay

761
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: the money you have to pay the players. The money

762
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: just trickles down, right, and Malcolm is saying, no, you're

763
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: worth work together. These players unions are sometimes, you know,

764
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: a farce because nobody's unified. They just want their money

765
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: because they think in the wrong way. And at the

766
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: end of the day, you all have the power. We

767
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: all have the power. I mentioned this earlier internal power.

768
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: With Malcolm's power, he is doing something that I also

769
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: think is new and innovative and extremely intimidating. And I

770
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: wish I could have somebody walking me through the process

771
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: because I want to do it. So Malcolm, congratulations to him.

772
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: Released three non fundable tokens to represent different moments in

773
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: his career. Uh So these are inn f T s. Guys,

774
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: you know about them. And Malcolm, for for all his

775
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: his work in the community, he is still as mentioned

776
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: about making that money. Uh Most recently he introduced three

777
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: n f T s right, and you all know what

778
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: n f T s are. So many in this world

779
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: is different Crypto talk to me about anything you need, cryptocurrency,

780
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: all of that. I'm like, what, huh, I don't know

781
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. But he is thinking ahead of

782
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: the game. I don't know if you all remember this.

783
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: There were two other NFL players who got into the

784
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: n f T space. I think it was Rob Gronkowski

785
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes. And it's interesting because I don't know

786
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: what it means, but they're getting good advice from other people.

787
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: So Malcolm, congratulations. He has three n f T s

788
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: and they're very artistic and they pretty much portray impactful

789
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: moments in his life right as an NFL player, so

790
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl when he was in Philly, his

791
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: his work with social justice as we just described, are

792
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: all documented and illustrated in his n f T s.

793
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: And I'm really really um proud of him for jumping

794
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: into the space because I was told this is where

795
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: the money is. He's probably gonna own an NFL team

796
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: sooner than later. He's doing it right. He probably don't

797
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: even want to tell us that secret, but that's his secret. Meanwhile, Um,

798
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 1: as we wrap up this podcast, I will leave you

799
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: with some wisdom and Malcolm talking about why he decided

800
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: to get into the n f T space. Now, I

801
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: got to encourage you all. This crypto situation is real.

802
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: At your girl and tell me if you're involved, help me,

803
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: help me get some change, Help me get some change,

804
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: Help me get some change. Thank you all for listening

805
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: to Naked. Here's Malcolm. Yeah. So one of the things

806
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: that I was talking about kind of being able to

807
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: explore more creative side of me when I started to see,

808
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: like really the top of the year, those n f

809
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: t s really starting to pop off the whole crypto space, uh,

810
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: and you look at it, it's like, Okay, this is

811
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: this is cool. I didn't want to do something that

812
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: was just you know, slap my name on a car,

813
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: throw it out there. I'm like, I want to do

814
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: something thoughtful, you know, and a little bit more artistic

815
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: and tap into a little bit of a creative vibe.

816
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: And you look at like, to me, the interesting thing

817
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: about n f t s are that it's a way

818
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: to really cement a uh thought, a piece of art

819
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: UM that last like forever. So how do I how

820
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: do I mint my legacy right and the things that

821
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: I've done and so though some of those are my

822
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: favorite memories from when I was an eagle, so some

823
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: of the things that that journey for the Super Bowl

824
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: UM as well as you know, my legacy UM with

825
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: social activism uh in the context of sports and being

826
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: able to lock that into UM an n f T

827
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: that's a piece of art that people can can you know,

828
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: uh share and be a part of that. My personal memory,

829
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: so I put a lot of like my personal photos

830
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: and and and kind of thoughts to it. Work with

831
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: two artists, Um one is so legit from here and

832
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: another guy the named Dimes from London to put together

833
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: a little collection of n f T s that are

834
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: available on open Sea, which is the largest distributor of

835
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: n f T s out there. So I'm excited. You know,

836
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: I want people to really, um feel like they got

837
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: a piece of me. It's got to see my creative side,

838
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: um and put something into the world. That's that that

839
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: has nothing uh that's not on the field. But you

840
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: know in an f T you know you saw a

841
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: grunk and I think um, Patrick Mahomes were kind of

842
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: the first two and nfella really be out there. But

843
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: what it would have showed to me from a business

844
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: model standpoint, and you see it now with a lot

845
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: of digital artists while they're so excited about the space,

846
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: is because you know, now most athletes again compared bout you,

847
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: everybody else, you only get a part of your likeness.

848
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: So somebody else takes a picture of you, like they

849
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: tell you to come to a place and they pay

850
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: you to sign the picture and they sell it for

851
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: way more like you're just the middleman, like, hey, come

852
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: give us your a signature. They might cut you a

853
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollar check, but you're gonna sign a thousand

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Speaker 1: autographs and they're gonna go make a hundred thousand off

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Speaker 1: of your name, the picture, the pictures of you, the

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Speaker 1: signatures yours. Yeah, they're making the most off of you

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Speaker 1: because they're a middleman. This type of situation cuts all

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Speaker 1: of that out. You own your likeness and you're able

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Speaker 1: to give it directly to a fan base, directly to

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Speaker 1: a consumer, and that changes the business model for athletes

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Speaker 1: and for entertainers or or graphic artists. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that really is what withdrew me to the space. And

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Speaker 1: then when I'm really looking at Okay, well how do

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Speaker 1: I want to enter this space? I like art, and

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Speaker 1: so I like, I want to do this in an

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Speaker 1: artistic expression to really cement my own legacy and give

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Speaker 1: it directly to the people who care. And that's you know,

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Speaker 1: those consumers are fans and that's what I really love

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Speaker 1: about this. In the T space spaces space