1
00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:08,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence keeps it again, dimes touchdown, got the start for Jacksonville,

2
00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,960
Speaker 1: pack out of it flagging on the plane. This is

3
00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:21,720
Speaker 1: caught you saw touched down thirty five yard try. Bengals

4
00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:33,159
Speaker 1: have never led tonight, I'll Cincinnati wins one and the

5
00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,880
Speaker 1: rookie is hoisted for the second time. There was a

6
00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,680
Speaker 1: moment in the middle of the fourth quarter on Thursday

7
00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Night Football where Troy Aikman try to put it all

8
00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,480
Speaker 1: into perspective what he was watching between the Jacksonville Jaguars

9
00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,120
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati Bengals, and he made this comment, which on

10
00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:04,319
Speaker 1: the surface was you know, tossed off, but if you

11
00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,680
Speaker 1: really thought about it, it said a lot. Troy Aikman,

12
00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,520
Speaker 1: three time Super Bowl Champion, Hall of Famer, instead of

13
00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,280
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence, they're going to be the

14
00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:26,920
Speaker 1: faces of the NFL for a long time. That is

15
00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:34,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals and the Jacksonville Rs, respectively.

16
00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,440
Speaker 1: And that is not to be slept on. And that

17
00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:44,920
Speaker 1: was what I was thinking. After the Cincinnati Bengals got

18
00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,080
Speaker 1: the field goal straight through the uprights. By the way,

19
00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, I love the kicker club around here, Ricky.

20
00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,840
Speaker 1: This kid, Evan McPherson can play, and I know he

21
00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,840
Speaker 1: missed early, but he drilled one in a big spot.

22
00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,440
Speaker 1: That's the second game winning, kicking three and four weeks

23
00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,400
Speaker 1: to start his career. One Bengals outlast the Jaguars in

24
00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,640
Speaker 1: a very loud Cincinnati building, a building that was lousy

25
00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,320
Speaker 1: with Westlings, who, by the way, Ricky locked it up

26
00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,840
Speaker 1: in a big spot. Even though Nick Westling halfway, you know,

27
00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,280
Speaker 1: halfway through the first quarter, sending out texts and tweets

28
00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,919
Speaker 1: burying his own brothers. I love it. I love it.

29
00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:31,200
Speaker 1: I love it because Chris Westling. I don't know if

30
00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,600
Speaker 1: he can hear it or see it. We don't know

31
00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,320
Speaker 1: how all that works. But Chris Westling would get such

32
00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,240
Speaker 1: a kick out of the Westling brothers, his brothers turning

33
00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,280
Speaker 1: on each other week after week with this lock game.

34
00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,520
Speaker 1: It's so perfect, it's so Westling brother It's so Cincinnati.

35
00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,480
Speaker 1: And speaking of Cincinnati, a little bit later, one of

36
00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,799
Speaker 1: the shining Suns of the Queen City is going to

37
00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,880
Speaker 1: join us. This was a game that the Jaguars were

38
00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,920
Speaker 1: in control of. This was a game that the Jaguars.

39
00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,560
Speaker 1: We're up fourteen nothing in the second quarter and driving.

40
00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,160
Speaker 1: It was a mausoleum Paul Brown Stadium. At that point,

41
00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:20,160
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars were at the goal line. Trevor Lawrence,

42
00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,000
Speaker 1: who really I thought was impressive in this game. Joe

43
00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,640
Speaker 1: Burrow is going to get the headlines, but I really

44
00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:32,000
Speaker 1: thought Lawrence made big strides in his fourth start, pushes forward,

45
00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,440
Speaker 1: just just comes short of the goal line, turnover on downs,

46
00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,160
Speaker 1: so it could have been twenty one nothing with a

47
00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,040
Speaker 1: minute to play in the second quarter. Instead, Cincinnati takes over.

48
00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,040
Speaker 1: They essentially run out the clock and then a third

49
00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:52,600
Speaker 1: quarter begins and the game switches. It flips and it's

50
00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,440
Speaker 1: because Burrow got hot, and they go down the field.

51
00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,880
Speaker 1: They make it fourteen seven, They get a stop, they

52
00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,280
Speaker 1: go down the field again, Joe mix in one year

53
00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,880
Speaker 1: touchdown run after Burrows QB sneak TV got called back correctly.

54
00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,200
Speaker 1: C G O C J Wasama making play after play

55
00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:20,480
Speaker 1: after play. My goodness, it's fourteen fourteen. But to Trevor

56
00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,159
Speaker 1: Lawrence's credit, to the Jacksonville Jaguars credit, this was not

57
00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,159
Speaker 1: gonna be like last week where they got the big

58
00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,039
Speaker 1: Jamal Agnew kickoff return or the field goal attempt that

59
00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,920
Speaker 1: was gathering in the back of the end zone and

60
00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,520
Speaker 1: then rushed a hundred and nine yards back the other way.

61
00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,920
Speaker 1: And you're thinking, oh, maybe the Jacks have a chance

62
00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,400
Speaker 1: to ups at Arizona and then they get blown blown

63
00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,359
Speaker 1: out of the building for the rest of that game. No,

64
00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,640
Speaker 1: this time again progress for Urban Myers team. They go

65
00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,920
Speaker 1: down the field, they march eleven place seventy seven yards

66
00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,080
Speaker 1: in five minutes and forty three seconds, capped by James

67
00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,200
Speaker 1: Robinson's four year touchdown run. A lot of big conversions

68
00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:05,640
Speaker 1: um by Trevor Lawrence. There. Uh, but the Cincinnati Bengals

69
00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,680
Speaker 1: come right back. A really good game, a lot of

70
00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,279
Speaker 1: good prime prime time games so far this season. And

71
00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,080
Speaker 1: again it's Burrow leading the charge. Ten place, seventy five yards. Now,

72
00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,000
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon's on the sideline with a minor angle ankle injury,

73
00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,840
Speaker 1: we're told by Zach Taylor, who all of a sudden

74
00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,480
Speaker 1: doesn't look so bad because his teams three and one.

75
00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,360
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor maybe has a face. Now. C j Uzama

76
00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,800
Speaker 1: again catches the ball in the flat and at all

77
00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:41,839
Speaker 1: outlets by the Jaguars and takes it to the house touchdown.

78
00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,119
Speaker 1: Jack's get the stop or the Bengals get to stop

79
00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,800
Speaker 1: and again another big Uzama catch sets them up for

80
00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,240
Speaker 1: the field goal. McPherson puts it through. Uh and yes,

81
00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,400
Speaker 1: just a big win for the Cincinnati Bengals who are

82
00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,000
Speaker 1: are three and one. That is noble, that is that's

83
00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,279
Speaker 1: a big deal in Cincinnati because you think about what

84
00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,039
Speaker 1: happened with Joe Burrow in his rookie year when you

85
00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,440
Speaker 1: saw the flashes there for the number one overall pick,

86
00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,720
Speaker 1: but he couldn't get protected and he took too many

87
00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,479
Speaker 1: hits and then he got his knee absolutely shredded, and

88
00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,120
Speaker 1: I believe it was November, and then a very difficult

89
00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,480
Speaker 1: rehab for not Just as Aikman said during the tellcast,

90
00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,800
Speaker 1: this was not just a pop d a c L.

91
00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,080
Speaker 1: This was a shredded knee. No one knew if he

92
00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,440
Speaker 1: was gonna be ready. A lot of bad camp reports

93
00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,800
Speaker 1: about him and Jamaar Chase and everybody else connected to Cincinnati,

94
00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,640
Speaker 1: but none of that matters because the summer doesn't matter

95
00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I don't know why, Ricky, I

96
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,800
Speaker 1: don't even know why we do a podcast. I really

97
00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,640
Speaker 1: don't know why we do it in the summer because

98
00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,640
Speaker 1: we got to see what happens when it counts, and

99
00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:56,679
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals are going to enter October in first

100
00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,360
Speaker 1: place in the north. Well, this feels like a good

101
00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,720
Speaker 1: time to bring in our guest. What's that sound? By

102
00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,280
Speaker 1: the way? M wait, wait a second, Is it time

103
00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:19,800
Speaker 1: to head to the desert? Is it time to welcome

104
00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,520
Speaker 1: in the Consigliari? And I know that he's not actually

105
00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:31,160
Speaker 1: in the desert right now, but that doesn't mean he's

106
00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:41,000
Speaker 1: not the Westling Brothers Desert Consigliari and proud Queen City

107
00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:48,920
Speaker 1: native Spice Rack. Welcome buddy, buddy boy happened to be

108
00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,120
Speaker 1: a board. I see you got the uh no Greg,

109
00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,920
Speaker 1: by the way, obviously we know what's going on with

110
00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,040
Speaker 1: Mark right, No, Greg, you don't get Greg. You got

111
00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,640
Speaker 1: me and Ricky and I hope that's okay, Spicyally, it's

112
00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160
Speaker 1: it's fine by me. You know who? Who am I

113
00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:07,680
Speaker 1: to turn down any of these options? But Spice can

114
00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,760
Speaker 1: you can you hear me? Well? What's going on? We

115
00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,680
Speaker 1: hear You're great, Spicy, Tell me about tell me about

116
00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,600
Speaker 1: where you watch this game, tell me everything about it.

117
00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,760
Speaker 1: Let's start there. We're with Spice Rack watching the Bengals,

118
00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,720
Speaker 1: not the Bungles. I don't do. I got too much

119
00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,080
Speaker 1: gray hair to be cool, and I'm way too much

120
00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,760
Speaker 1: of a maniac to like what really watched sports almost

121
00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,240
Speaker 1: with anybody else. So so you're solo soaking it in.

122
00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,240
Speaker 1: How did it feel? What are you thinking right now?

123
00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,680
Speaker 1: Take me through it? Well, I mean, listen, there's not

124
00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot of feelings. And you know, as far as

125
00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,000
Speaker 1: being a sports fan and uh, knowing you landed a

126
00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,880
Speaker 1: stud at quarterback, there's a different feeling about it. If

127
00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,400
Speaker 1: you think back eight ten years ago, the Bengals had

128
00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,800
Speaker 1: as deeper roster as anyone in the NFL. They had

129
00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,840
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl roster with a wild card quarterback. And

130
00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,040
Speaker 1: that's how I always viewed. Um, I never even took

131
00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,600
Speaker 1: them that seriously, but I mean just studs in their

132
00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,400
Speaker 1: prime for days with a J. Green and Whitworth and um,

133
00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, the secondary was loaded Geno Atkins and Dune Law.

134
00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,880
Speaker 1: They were stacked, but they had a quarterback who you

135
00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,280
Speaker 1: knew had a ceiling and everything. Yeah, and everything would

136
00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,480
Speaker 1: have had to be perfect to to just get there.

137
00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,880
Speaker 1: And uh, it's just different with with Joe Burrow, for sure.

138
00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,439
Speaker 1: And that's how spicy, That's how it opened up the

139
00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,800
Speaker 1: show just kind of an off handed remark by Aikman

140
00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,880
Speaker 1: midway through the fourth quarter. Troy Troy, Troy Aikman. Yes,

141
00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,559
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick out of U C. L

142
00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,000
Speaker 1: A and the Hall of Famer, they're gonna be the

143
00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,760
Speaker 1: faces of the NFL for a long time. And it

144
00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,439
Speaker 1: was he was referring to a Cincinnati and then Jacksonville quarterback.

145
00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,760
Speaker 1: And I think that's notable because Jacksonville has a even

146
00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,040
Speaker 1: though they've only been around since ninety five, and they

147
00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,600
Speaker 1: came in, they came out of the gates hot with

148
00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Brunel and they had a nice round with Brunell. It's

149
00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,040
Speaker 1: been pretty rough since then. And we know the history

150
00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,560
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati QB's Carson Palmer. And you know, Spicy, just

151
00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,040
Speaker 1: like West knew it was special, but fate intervened there

152
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,760
Speaker 1: now brutal. Now you have Burrow and faith intervening potentially

153
00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,040
Speaker 1: last season two when you're thinking to yourself when that

154
00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,880
Speaker 1: knee literally explodes within his body, oh my god, it's

155
00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,840
Speaker 1: happening again. But now now, Spicy, you're thinking to yourself,

156
00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,240
Speaker 1: we we survived that, We that that gut punch, and

157
00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,000
Speaker 1: this guy is the real deal, you know, Uh yeah,

158
00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,360
Speaker 1: definitely seems like we survived it. Uh, there's not. There's

159
00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,319
Speaker 1: not a you know that that year after the injury,

160
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,320
Speaker 1: that just makes things dicey moving forward. I mean it's

161
00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear he's a keeper on all fronts, um,

162
00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,040
Speaker 1: but it's still you know, we're looking at uh, last

163
00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,600
Speaker 1: year was wasted. This year. Uh, I still feel like

164
00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,199
Speaker 1: there's a ceiling on the team. And when you talk

165
00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,600
Speaker 1: about modern NFL, those teams that really hit, or when

166
00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, like what the Bills have now with the

167
00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks had with Russell Wilson, you know, you got

168
00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,680
Speaker 1: that roster that stacked the quarter. I realized Alan is

169
00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,040
Speaker 1: now you know, he's signed a big contract, but still

170
00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,679
Speaker 1: that roster was built when he was still in that

171
00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,080
Speaker 1: rookie contract with that rookie clock, right. Yeah, and so

172
00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, already looking at obviously this isn't a wasted

173
00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,959
Speaker 1: year by any stress, but I'm not a big fan

174
00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,520
Speaker 1: of Zach Taylor. The roster is very limited and uh regardless,

175
00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,400
Speaker 1: I just look at this as a year of is

176
00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,760
Speaker 1: as long as Burrow gets through it, you know, that's all.

177
00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,680
Speaker 1: I could ask for a wild card appearance something like

178
00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,319
Speaker 1: that would be great, but just watching this guy play

179
00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,400
Speaker 1: is you know, it offers hope. I mean that's what

180
00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,040
Speaker 1: sports are all about, especially as fall small market, which

181
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,280
Speaker 1: being in New Yorker, you understand. Yeah, well I understand

182
00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,000
Speaker 1: what it's like the Joe decades looking for a quarterback.

183
00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,720
Speaker 1: But you have you. You are in the hope business again. Uh,

184
00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,400
Speaker 1: and I want you are college guy. We lean on you, Spicy,

185
00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,560
Speaker 1: You're the expert. You are peerless in that well peerless

186
00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,760
Speaker 1: within the structure of our podcast here. This is right,

187
00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know worldwide. But what did you think about

188
00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,920
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence as well? Because uh, you know, I remember

189
00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,320
Speaker 1: probing what your thoughts on Lawrence ahead of the draft,

190
00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,480
Speaker 1: and I think you spoke very hot highly of him

191
00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,280
Speaker 1: as well asolutely I felt they I felt like they

192
00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,120
Speaker 1: both really showed a lot in this game. I mean, uh,

193
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,520
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is uh. I mean, his his talent jumps

194
00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,040
Speaker 1: off the chart. I'm sure for the coaches who have

195
00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,720
Speaker 1: done all the individual workouts of every big guy going back,

196
00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably stands out, you know, above almost

197
00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,480
Speaker 1: any other guy. You saw his athleticism today, You saw

198
00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,800
Speaker 1: that great throw to the you know, left sideline. You

199
00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,760
Speaker 1: know yards about triple covered. Um, I mean, he's he's spectacular,

200
00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,319
Speaker 1: He's a can't miss. I really am trying to get

201
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,720
Speaker 1: a feel for his personality. He seems pretty much like

202
00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,000
Speaker 1: a robot. Obviously he's done nothing but win his whole

203
00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,640
Speaker 1: career and all that, and uh, you know, the measurables

204
00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,680
Speaker 1: it they speak for themselves. I gotta tell you regarding

205
00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,920
Speaker 1: his athleticism and his you know, his ability as talent

206
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,880
Speaker 1: and urban Meyer, what were we talking about here? Zeus?

207
00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,240
Speaker 1: He got fourth and golf from the inch line. Trevor

208
00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,520
Speaker 1: Lawrence is already probably run for thirty or forty, you know,

209
00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,160
Speaker 1: impressive type yards already in the game, showing his athletica.

210
00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,400
Speaker 1: And me he's six five is strong guy. You can't

211
00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,880
Speaker 1: just fall forward an inch. You have to run the

212
00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,880
Speaker 1: triple option. That's from the whole game tonight. That's from

213
00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,319
Speaker 1: the whole game. But overall, I'm a big fan of

214
00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,240
Speaker 1: Lawrence personality wise. He actually kind of reminds me of

215
00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,760
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. Talent undeniable, but kind of wouldn't you know.

216
00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's not all not all the way of

217
00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,880
Speaker 1: of a criticism, but Joe Burrow, you know who he is, right,

218
00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,600
Speaker 1: away just with body language, with interaction with teammates and

219
00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,960
Speaker 1: uh not comparing the two just on that front, but overall,

220
00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,480
Speaker 1: give me a guy like Burrow. It's funny that were

221
00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,800
Speaker 1: we Palmer has come up a couple of times here

222
00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,040
Speaker 1: because Lawrence is a good comp in a lot of ways.

223
00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,880
Speaker 1: Like Palmer and Lawrence both were probably gold and you know,

224
00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:07,280
Speaker 1: childhad prodigies when they're and um, they aren't going to

225
00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,480
Speaker 1: carry themselves with the type of maybe charisma of a

226
00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,760
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow who has who has a little bit of

227
00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,599
Speaker 1: a chip on the shoulder. His his college path was

228
00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,880
Speaker 1: a little rocky or Baker Mayfield, another transfer type guy

229
00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,600
Speaker 1: that had you know, you see the walk on and

230
00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,760
Speaker 1: you see the way those guys that that kind of

231
00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,920
Speaker 1: informs their personalities as well. And I and I brought

232
00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,600
Speaker 1: it up on the podcast like a week ago, but

233
00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,280
Speaker 1: I'll bring it up again. One of my favorite assignments

234
00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,760
Speaker 1: I ever got sent on for NFL Media was to

235
00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,560
Speaker 1: cover the premier of All or Nothing, Um when the

236
00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals were the first season of that and I got

237
00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,840
Speaker 1: to go with my buddy j to the green room

238
00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,080
Speaker 1: where all the players and Bruce arians and it was

239
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,560
Speaker 1: such a star studded team that two thousand fifteen Panthers

240
00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,800
Speaker 1: squad and Carson Palmer just chilling at the bar with

241
00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,240
Speaker 1: a bud heavy and even though he's maybe wooden from

242
00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,120
Speaker 1: our perspective when you're there the way, there's just there's

243
00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,760
Speaker 1: something about him he just wanted. And I think that

244
00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,480
Speaker 1: Lawrence has that same thing. And it's still young. We

245
00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,840
Speaker 1: have no idea where this is going to go, but

246
00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,840
Speaker 1: he kind of has an aura to him. I think

247
00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,960
Speaker 1: I think that I think Lawrence is really special. And

248
00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,160
Speaker 1: if they're Jaguar fan, listen right now and you're super

249
00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,440
Speaker 1: bumped because you're owing four and this was a stomach

250
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,680
Speaker 1: punch loss obviously because you felt like you had it.

251
00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,360
Speaker 1: Better days are ahead of urban Meyer, maybe be nervous

252
00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,720
Speaker 1: about him. But man, you have Trevor Lawrence in the

253
00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,560
Speaker 1: building exactly once you once you land that quarterback, you're good.

254
00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for the for the most part,

255
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,000
Speaker 1: if you get that guy, you're good. And that all

256
00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,920
Speaker 1: it just changes that it changes your view of you know,

257
00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,800
Speaker 1: from around the league, prospective free agents. You know, all

258
00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're eight, You're able to get these

259
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,280
Speaker 1: vets on a one year deal. That it's still have

260
00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,280
Speaker 1: a lot left in the tank, and uh that Jacksonville

261
00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,400
Speaker 1: is nowhere close to that yet, but they have their guy.

262
00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,240
Speaker 1: There's there's no doubt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. I was

263
00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,480
Speaker 1: just gonna say because I because we value your your takes.

264
00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,760
Speaker 1: Anybody else from the game today, that kind of jumped out,

265
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 1: jumped off the screen a little bit to you, somebody

266
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,160
Speaker 1: you're excited to see more of? What about the tight end? Uh? Yeah?

267
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,680
Speaker 1: Do you think that was? I think that was one

268
00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,040
Speaker 1: of those prime time like flashes in the pan. Or

269
00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,680
Speaker 1: if this is a guy I really keep an eye on,

270
00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,520
Speaker 1: He's he's he's rock solid. He's always actually been a

271
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,040
Speaker 1: pretty good receiver of the ball and like a willing

272
00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,960
Speaker 1: blocker from what I understand, I'm not exactly breaking down film,

273
00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,280
Speaker 1: but he he only moved so fast, and he only

274
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,880
Speaker 1: moved he's. He's he's plenty serviceable. But he's not. Get

275
00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,000
Speaker 1: to of anybody else from the game that you wanted

276
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,760
Speaker 1: to throw out something on before we say goodbye. I

277
00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,160
Speaker 1: mean you don't. You don't want my takes on like

278
00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,800
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf or East Coast Bias or Zach Taylor. I

279
00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,840
Speaker 1: got stuff written down. I mean we won't hear anything

280
00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,800
Speaker 1: critical of Connie, that's what you're getting at. But any

281
00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,480
Speaker 1: other thoughts is good. I mean she didn't return my

282
00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,560
Speaker 1: complimentary d M if you yeah, do you have any

283
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,640
Speaker 1: idea how many random white men are d M ng

284
00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,560
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf? I mean, she's got to follow you, d M.

285
00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,560
Speaker 1: This is my this is my friend. We have an

286
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,320
Speaker 1: established friends you thought, Okay, Yeah, no, I don't know. No,

287
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,840
Speaker 1: honestly he should understand that though, right, the spicy has

288
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,320
Speaker 1: to understand that Colleen's herd d M s I'm a

289
00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,200
Speaker 1: big fast on a plane that none of us can

290
00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,879
Speaker 1: quite grasp. Yeah, yeah, I mean it is, Uh, it

291
00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,040
Speaker 1: is unlike anything you could imagine the Ricky DM. Ricky

292
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,880
Speaker 1: sent me an absurd DM that involved I can't even say.

293
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't even kids could be listening. I mean Eric

294
00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,400
Speaker 1: is getting killed too sometimes. I'm sure. No, it's brutal

295
00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,760
Speaker 1: for for the ladies, I'm sure, I'm sure these this, Uh,

296
00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,000
Speaker 1: what Dan's referring to Ricky is sent from a gentleman,

297
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,600
Speaker 1: not a gentle lady. Yeah, guys are the worst, and

298
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:49,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't killing else but rude, trude whatever, guys, colleens

299
00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,919
Speaker 1: a pro go ahead anything else before we say goodbye? Spicy?

300
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,760
Speaker 1: How are you a pro? I'm I am well? How

301
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,120
Speaker 1: are you good? I threatened? I threatened Ricky before this

302
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,679
Speaker 1: to not play that Carousel music this time, and she,

303
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I thought that she was not

304
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,800
Speaker 1: so cowardly. I thought she'd play it still. But she's

305
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,520
Speaker 1: living up to it. No, I don't know. Tell me,

306
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 1: you have that teat up right now? What what do

307
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,439
Speaker 1: we do? What are we doing that? Zeus? Let me

308
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 1: let me ask you, how ridiculous do you think it

309
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,880
Speaker 1: is that, five years after his playing career, Nick Mangolds

310
00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,200
Speaker 1: on bud Light Seltzer commercials. Nick Mangolds, he comes bias

311
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,719
Speaker 1: in a way that Okay, the center for the New

312
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,000
Speaker 1: York Jets from five years ago or whatever it is,

313
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,119
Speaker 1: this is way. This is way worse than win Justin

314
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,560
Speaker 1: Tuck was on a subway commercial way worse. You're a

315
00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,439
Speaker 1: little bit in your Midwest bubble or your if Nick Well,

316
00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,679
Speaker 1: Nick Mangolds from right up the road here, what are

317
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,760
Speaker 1: you talking about? Did you track his college career? Did

318
00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 1: you try to send a center Hey, he was a

319
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 1: critical member of the two thousand two Ohio State buck Eyes.

320
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 1: This is a clown take to come after Mangold because

321
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,200
Speaker 1: you got you got some scratch for a commercially them.

322
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm happy in the circus. Put a big top over

323
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 1: the steak for spicy. Do you think the Mariners are

324
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna beat out the Yankees for the wild Card minus

325
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: fifty and run differential? Uh? Listen, I don't know about

326
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 1: that side of it, but I can tell you they

327
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,239
Speaker 1: just went to Boston and Toronto and took five out

328
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: of six, so I'm feeling pretty good. I know they're

329
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 1: probably in but but Seattle, Seattle is probably gonna come

330
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 1: and get Boston and Toronto is pretty much dead. So

331
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 1: and informed. They will probably be at the Bronx on

332
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: Tuesday night when I'm on a plane to London with Ricky.

333
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 1: I'm not excited about that. We're off the rails, all right,

334
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 1: we are, we are alright. I see we love you,

335
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 1: I really did. I'm happy to hear from you. I

336
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: am about this lighting. You gotta love this light. It's nice.

337
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 1: Look like I don't know what I like. Um, and

338
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 1: thank you, and uh say hi to if you run

339
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: across any Westling brothers. I know that city is lousy

340
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 1: with them, Say hi our behalf. We'll do great talk, great,

341
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 1: great talking you guys, good Spicer alright, appearance by Spicy.

342
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 1: I liked it. I do like that he privately reached

343
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: out to you about the Circus music. He let not

344
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: me let me read the text. If you play the

345
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 1: Carousel music again, we're gonna fight you. So good. Oh,

346
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: let's see. The biggest mistake he made is letting us

347
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: know that it bothers him. Yeah. I wouldn't even thought

348
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: of it. But thank you the great brand Spieler. He's

349
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 1: a good dude. Uh. And it's a good day if

350
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: you're a Cincinnati Bengals fan. So that is it. That's

351
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 1: where we're That's where we're at. Real quick, Ricky, do

352
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: you want to do you have any takes on the

353
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifties six halftime show. It was announced today

354
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Mary J. Blige, Kendrick Lamarlon

355
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: for Dre's from l A Snoop Long Beach, Come on now,

356
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: Andrew Lamar South Central, Mary J. I'm not sure we're

357
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Mary J. Hills. Eminem's obviously Detroit, but he has the

358
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: the ties, of course to um from the Bronx Okay,

359
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: well all right, but she's Mary J. So you want

360
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: to get that element into it, that that that this

361
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: is something to have a true hip hop halftime show.

362
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: As someone that they used to have me cover this event,

363
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: I used to go to the press conferences on Thursday

364
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: of super Bowl week or Friday of super Bowl week.

365
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,959
Speaker 1: This is something that they were resisent to to go

366
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: down this path, and that was always to me not

367
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 1: not the way to go. Because hip hop is the

368
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: dominant musical form in popular culture in America and the

369
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 1: super Bowl is America's day, uh in terms of pop culture.

370
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: So I think this is smart and good. I'm looking

371
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: forward to it, and all these artists have bangers. That's

372
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: my take. What's yours? Yeah, exactly. At first, when I

373
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: was like Rocky member and I was like, Okay, l A,

374
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 1: they'll maybe go hip hop because, like you said, it's

375
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: it's been trending that way for a long time and

376
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: they've been frankly you know, behind the times, and and

377
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: they caught up, which was great. Um, but I was like,

378
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: could Snoop Dog like hold a halftime show? I'm like,

379
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: would they really do that? I don't know. And then

380
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: even Kendrick Lamar, like, is that big big enough name

381
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: for you know, some of the flyover states and and

382
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that, not not you know, saying you're not

383
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna win over the flyover states totally. But but I

384
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 1: was like, so, what are who's gonna hold? But then

385
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: when they announced them all together, I was like, oh, yeah,

386
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: this is awesome, Like it's gonna be so sick. And

387
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: during the halftime, if you guys catch it, if you

388
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: go back and watch, you know, Colleen Tonight on on

389
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 1: TNF and she tossed it to Dre and Snoop, who

390
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: did a little, um, you know, like two minutes sort

391
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: of interview, really cool checking it out, and it got

392
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: me hype. Alright, good, alright, so we're both on the

393
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: same page with us. And I don't even have to

394
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: ask Greg. I don't have to wait till Tuesday talked

395
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: with us because Greg famously likes rap. So that's good.

396
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: So there you go. Uh And the NFL, they had

397
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: kind of backed themselves into a bit of a corner

398
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,239
Speaker 1: where that it seemed like you had to find this

399
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: huge universal artists and that usually meant older rock band

400
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: and that's just not where things are right now rock

401
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: music doesn't have a grip on the culture like it

402
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: once did, and they've already gotten all the classic rockers.

403
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: And besides, a lot of like the classic rock acts

404
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: are kind of being phased out by father time now.

405
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: So this makes sense. Just make it if it's make

406
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: it a pop show, a pop spectacle. And by the way, Ricky,

407
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: just get Taylor Swift next year. I was just gonna

408
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: say this. I don't know what I'm thinking. I'm like, Okay,

409
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, she's re recording all of her albums. She

410
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: just announced today that she's rerecording Red and it's gonna

411
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: be coming out soon. She's owning all her own music. Dan,

412
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: what if all of a sudden, Taylor has her whole

413
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: collection re recorded that she owned. I mean, this is

414
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: trending to something huge. You just wait, you got a

415
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: little too excited that Taylor Swift, who has about seven

416
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: billion dollars in the bank, now that she owns all

417
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: her own music, she'll have nine billion dollars in the bank. Well,

418
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: it's a big deal that she's taking control back, you

419
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: know from That's good. That's all power to the artist.

420
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: Not that there was there was some pepsi Coca cola,

421
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, but that's off the table now, Taylor, you've

422
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: got a good feeling. Dan, all right, good, that would

423
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: be nice. I'll be fun. Where is the Super Bowl

424
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: next year? I can't remember Arizona. We gotta go to

425
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans perfect. Um all right, good stuff, Thank you

426
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: everybody for listening. By the way, again again, we will

427
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: be in London next week and later in the week.

428
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: We want to see you guys, So head over to

429
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: the around the NFL subreddit. It's very easy to find.

430
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: If you've never been on Reddit, just go. Just type

431
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: in on the Google machine around the NFL reddit. That

432
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: should handle it and you'll have some information that might

433
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: be of interest to you if you live in England

434
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: and the surrounding territories. That's all. Just keep keep an

435
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: eye out or um, yeah, just keep an eye out.

436
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: Play me out with that desert consigiliary. That's what it's

437
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: known as. Some people say, oh, yeah, that's the Godfather thing. No,

438
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: it's the Spice Rack. Come on back Sunday night for

439
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: the flagship show. Until then, heed the call. That's my

440
00:25:39,560 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: brand needs work. Yeah,