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Speaker 3: It was February twenty third, twenty twenty one, when a

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Speaker 3: An officer with the Elle County Sheriff's Department stepped out

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Speaker 3: Sneakers dangled from a telephone wire overhead. There on the

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Speaker 1: Do you have two forty five?

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have a two forty five?

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Speaker 5: Hey, start keeping it off.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have a two forty five, he said, Police

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Speaker 3: code for assault with a deadly weapon. Officers started cordoning

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Speaker 3: you got it that way, just the trust.

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Speaker 3: The Compton Fire Department showed up next. One of the

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Speaker 3: it to fibrillator even he was spooked by what he

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Speaker 3: he said, And then he wondered aloud, what had happened?

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Speaker 3: It was a nine inch Farberware steak knife, like the

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Speaker 3: what appeared to be a lack of blood. The condition

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got grigor's ability.

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Speaker 3: He put his defibrillator down with a sense of resignation.

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Speaker 3: He seemed to accept what had been painfully apparent all along.

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Speaker 3: This was not a situation that called for resuscitation. It

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Speaker 3: was one that required an investigation. I'm Jen Swan from iHeartMedia, London,

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Speaker 3: Audio and executive producer Paris Hilton. This is My Friend Daisy,

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Speaker 3: Episode two, Jane Doe Leopoldo Sanchez hadn't left for work

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Speaker 3: yet when he got the call. It was early on

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Speaker 3: There had been a homicide and he was about to

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Speaker 4: The way our office works is you're on call for

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Speaker 4: what we call the lineup, you kind of know, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Sanchez is a detective with the Li County Sheriff's Department.

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Speaker 3: He's got a buzz cut and he's built like a

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Speaker 3: Sanchez has been working for the ELI County Sheriff's Department

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Speaker 3: Then, I'm not doing It didn't take long for him

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Speaker 3: He eventually landed the job, and when he got this

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Speaker 4: Initially it was kind of like, we're going where I

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Speaker 3: Sancha's got in his car and typed the address of

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Speaker 3: A body dump? It was the signature move of the

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Speaker 3: so called Grim Sleeper, the serial killer who for decades

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Speaker 1: Familiar to any of you guys, You guys know this

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Speaker 5: I didn't see her. She was facing down.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't catch that, The officer asked if the

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Speaker 5: Did you guys hear anything last light or anything?

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Speaker 3: The officer pivoted. He looked out at one of the boxy,

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Speaker 5: Hey, do you guys know obviously on these cameras here,

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Speaker 3: Who I talked about?

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Speaker 4: The camera?

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Speaker 5: Wh yeah, oh here list on top.

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Speaker 3: Of the officer walked up the steps to the second

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Speaker 5: How's it going, man, I have a question, man, I

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Speaker 4: Just heard yeah, let me actually let me come up brother,

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Speaker 3: See if you could get your guys in the footage anything.

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Speaker 3: It's a little hard to make out what they're saying.

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Speaker 3: But the guy in the blue beanie, the guy who

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Speaker 2: Approximately how long do you think the body has been out?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Cider and you were around there and it was smoke

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Speaker 5: Right, They're like, well the basketball courtside, OK, you didn't

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Speaker 3: At that time. I didn't. The officer continued knocking on doors.

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Speaker 5: That's how I like. It's like okay, also.

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Speaker 3: Each time he knocked, he got the same answer. Nobody

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Speaker 3: You have cameras that the camera's work. No, we don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the manager does.

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Speaker 5: Oh, those cameras that are not connected to you guys. No, Well,

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Speaker 5: then yesterday you guys.

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Speaker 3: Didn't do or anything. No one seemed to have any intel.

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Speaker 4: I have a question.

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Speaker 4: You think you'll find.

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Speaker 5: So on the whole alleys blocked off.

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Speaker 3: Is there a dead body back there?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: The guy said something around that nature, the officer replied,

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Speaker 4: Who is kills people at them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's starting to get back to how it was,

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Speaker 3: At another house down the street, the officer unlatched a

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Speaker 4: Hey man, how's it going.

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Speaker 5: It's sorry to bother you.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking.

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Speaker 5: The artist hover, with conversation with Allie Kelly, shared the department,

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Speaker 5: I have a question, man, they have cameras in the

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Speaker 5: back of yours.

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Speaker 4: There's no cameras here.

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Speaker 3: Again, he was met with the same one word answers, No, no, no.

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Speaker 5: Did you hear anything by anytime of any noise history

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Speaker 4: I've seen always something happening back there.

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Speaker 5: Okay, just a verifying ma'am. All you say going on

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Speaker 3: It's difficult to hear, but she said there's always something

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Speaker 3: It's unclear what exactly this is that she said was

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Speaker 3: news shows our top story at five that Toddler is

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Speaker 5: Three shot to death in a Compton park late last night,

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Speaker 3: The crime scene that morning resulted in a headline of

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Speaker 3: He said, she's Jane Doe right now. When detectives arrived

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Speaker 3: one one earlier that morning. You have a what dead men?

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Speaker 3: Jose didn't know much. He didn't think he knew who

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Speaker 3: his tenants, Juan de la Oh, Daisy's grandfather. Jose said,

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Speaker 5: Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: At this point, Juan already knew that something horrific had happened.

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Speaker 3: It looked to him like the body of a young

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Speaker 3: and asked a family member on the studies, where's Daisy?

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Speaker 3: Wendy Valdivia was in her car. She was on her

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Speaker 3: and as she drove past her mother's apartment complex, she

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Speaker 1: So I called my mom and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: She's like, oh, nothing, white was what happen?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, there's yellow tape in cops outside

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Speaker 3: So Wendy kept driving. She figured that whatever was going

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Speaker 1: They were like, oh, well, it's just I think somebody

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Speaker 3: This, as you might imagine, was not the most comforting answer.

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Speaker 1: An older woman, like in her forties that wore glasses.

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Speaker 1: So they described like a lady that lived in the

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Speaker 1: I was like, I hope it's not her.

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Speaker 3: Wendy, you used to live in this building. She moved

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Speaker 1: So when they said that, I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Like what happened to her? Like I wonder if somebody came,

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Speaker 1: like if they raped her, Like if they killed her there, Like,

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Speaker 3: I got? I was so confused. She went over to

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Speaker 3: her mother's first floor apartment. That's where her thirteen year

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Speaker 3: old son, Jeffrey, had spent the night, and the room

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Speaker 1: He was like, well, I heard like somebody like moving

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Speaker 3: Now, it might seem odd that Jeffrey didn't pay much

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Speaker 3: you just have to tune it out. Close the window,

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Speaker 3: Before long, there was a knock on Wendy's mother's door.

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Speaker 3: He now believed that the person who had been murdered

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Speaker 3: Wendy immediately thought of her mom's upstairs neighbor, Daisy.

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Speaker 1: I remember she has like a little blonde or blue

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Speaker 3: Wendy had known Daisy ever since Daisy was little. Daisy

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Speaker 3: Wendy aske Jeffrey if he'd seen Daisy the night before.

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Speaker 3: It turned out he had. He'd been over at his

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Speaker 3: Now this sounds really ominous, but in the moment, Jeffrey

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Speaker 3: He understood that staying out of other people's business could

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Speaker 3: what Jeffrey had seen, they wanted him to answer some questions.

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Speaker 3: They also wanted him to do something else, something Wendy

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Speaker 1: It was hard because I was like, why can't I

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Speaker 3: But the police were insistent. They wanted Jeffrey to do it.

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Speaker 3: Wendy thought about it, and she reluctantly agreed if Jeffrey

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey walked out of his grandmother's apartment and ducked under

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Speaker 3: that had been lying there for hours, and in that moment,

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Speaker 3: he gave the confirmation police were looking for afterward. He

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he wasn't shocked at the moment because

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Speaker 3: After hours of uncertainty, the police were finally able to

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Speaker 3: identify the body. As Sanchez put it, it was all

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Speaker 4: That kid's amazing. I mean that kid. If he hadn't

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Speaker 4: been a Jane Doe, right, so she would have been

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Speaker 4: she would have identified it by the corner's office. That

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Speaker 3: Daisy dela O was not a Jane Doe and this

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Speaker 3: was not a quote body dump. Daisy lived there, She

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Speaker 3: Susie had assumed that Daisy met up with her ex

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Speaker 3: But he wouldn't say. All he said, according to Susie,

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Speaker 3: something had been done to her. After Susie hung up

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Speaker 3: Susie just kept saying, over and over, something happened, Something happened.

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Speaker 3: Earlier that same day, she'd been talking to her coworkers

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Speaker 3: Daisy was already so independent, and when she got a car,

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Speaker 3: she'd only become more so. Small part of Susie was

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Speaker 1: I remember when she got there and they told her

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Speaker 3: A body bag. Wendy said that they were putting Daisy

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Speaker 3: something she'd probably assumed was some kind of dramatic Hollywood cliche.

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Speaker 3: It felt surreal. Susie remembered screaming cursing, begging to know

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Speaker 3: what had happened, But detectives had no answers for her,

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Speaker 3: only more questions, things like did Daisy have any tattoos?

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Speaker 3: They wanted to double check that they'd id'd the body correctly,

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Speaker 3: that it was in fact yeah. She told them there

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Speaker 3: dancing skeletons on each of her hips, two angels on

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Speaker 3: moon and the stars. It was a matching tattoo she'd

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Speaker 3: gotten years earlier with her best friend. They had showed

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Speaker 3: them off in their side by side yearbook photos. There

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Speaker 3: were stories behind the ink memories, but now they'd become

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Speaker 3: identifiers number one through ten on an autopsy. Daisy was

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Speaker 3: so much more than the markings on her body, the

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Speaker 3: descriptions on a stack of government paperwork. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: know the things that body cameras and autopsies couldn't tell me,

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Speaker 3: And for that I knew I had to talk to

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Speaker 3: the people who knew Daisy. The first place I went

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Speaker 3: to find them was TikTok. Next time on my friend

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Speaker 3: Daisy and.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think much of it because I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: like when in high school, we all have problems with

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Speaker 2: the partners. But like when I found out what happened,

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Speaker 2: that's when I was like damn, Like I felt guilty,

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Speaker 2: I felt remorse, and I was like Dawn, like I

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Speaker 2: wonder if I could have helped her.

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Speaker 3: My Friend Daisy is a production of London Audio with

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Speaker 3: support from Sony Music Entertainment. It's reported, written and executive

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Speaker 3: produced by me Jen Swan. I'm also your host. Our

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Speaker 3: executive producers for London Audio are Paris Hilton, Bruce gersh

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Speaker 3: Bruce Robertson and Joanna Studebaker. Our executive producer for Sony

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Speaker 3: Music Entertainment is Jonathan Hirsch. Our associate producer is Zoe Culkin.

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Speaker 3: Production assistants and translations by Miguel Contreras, Sound design, composing

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Speaker 3: and mixing by Hans Dale she Are. Fact checker is

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Speaker 3: Fendel Fulton. Our head of production is Sammy Allison and

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Speaker 3: our production manager is Tamika Balance Colosny. Special thanks to

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Speaker 3: Goldberg and Orley Greenberg at UTA, and Jen ortiz at

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