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Speaker 1: All right, a third hour of Clay and Buck. Yet

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Speaker 1: a little bit later. A tough weekend in the news

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Speaker 1: cycle once again for the Biden Harris campaign because Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden appeared in public and proceeded to speak and walk,

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Speaker 1: and that's not a good look for the Biden campaign.

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Speaker 1: When Biden shows up and does things, everyone goes, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, this guy. It's not only I think the

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Speaker 1: gasp of this guy's the president, there's also the end

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Speaker 1: he thinks he should be president for four more years.

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Speaker 1: That is just too much for any reasonable person to bear. Also,

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Speaker 1: the Iowa poll numbers. This is a des Moines Register

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Speaker 1: and Seltzer poll. Who is considered the pollsters pollster out

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Speaker 1: of Iowa, Donald Trump at fifty percent, Joe Biden at

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Speaker 1: thirty two percent, RFK Junior at nine percent. Trump up

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Speaker 1: eighteen points on Biden in Iowa is Landslide Electoral College territory.

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Speaker 1: If that holds, I don't think anybody disagrees that that's

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Speaker 1: what that would be. I know we're six now, wait

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Speaker 1: five five months out, four and a half, four four

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Speaker 1: November fifth, so we're exactly four months away in July fourth.

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Speaker 1: This is going to come very quickly, as we all know.

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Speaker 1: Right the time period I feel like in the election

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Speaker 1: year of January to June feels like an eternity. And

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Speaker 1: then once you get into the summer months, because September

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Speaker 1: So we will continue to look at these numbers and

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Speaker 1: what they indicate also interesting, Claire, I don't think we

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Speaker 1: talked about this in the first hour. Pew Research says

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent of voters are quote double haters, dislike

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Speaker 1: both the Republican and Democrat candidates. This is the highest

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Speaker 1: number in history, and it is twice what it has

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Speaker 1: been in twenty twenty, twenty twelve, two thousand and eight

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Speaker 1: going way back. So there's a lot of antipathy in

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Speaker 1: this election cycle right now, and perhaps one of the

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Speaker 1: other ways that we can take a look at this

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Speaker 1: big piece Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan, a bunch of big

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Speaker 1: names of the New York Times on the resistance to

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Speaker 1: a new Trump administration has already started. Clay, we would

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Speaker 1: have expected this. I don't think if Joe Biden was

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Speaker 1: doing well, they would be running this piece at this time,

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Speaker 1: this early on. But it is effectively, I think, meant

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Speaker 1: to be a calming mechanism for Democrats to the degree

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Speaker 1: that it can be that they will do. They will

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Speaker 1: pull every trick they can help, every activist, judge, every

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Speaker 1: Soros funded DA, you know, whatever they can do to

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Speaker 1: try to stop the Trump agenda. And one thing I

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Speaker 1: thought was particularly noteworthy in this piece. They are stockpiling

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Speaker 1: abortion medicine. I mean they're actually and they're saying. This

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Speaker 1: is from Jay Insley, the governor Washington. He says five

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Speaker 1: Democratic governors have established stockpiles of MEFI pristone to guard

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Speaker 1: against the Trump administration, using federal power to stop its

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Speaker 1: intrastate distribution New York, California, Massachusetts. This is interesting because

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Speaker 1: the federal government can just decide very and has I

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Speaker 1: think this is in many cases an abuse of the

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Speaker 1: interstate Commerce clause, and this is a huge problem. But

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Speaker 1: the government can say, well, even if you're going to

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Speaker 1: a state where the thing is okay, you can't cross

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Speaker 1: even if mif At Pristo. But I mean, they're really

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Speaker 1: freaking out about this. Well, we didn't even hardly talk

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Speaker 1: how the Sarbaines Oxley Act can be applied on the

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Speaker 1: Jan six related cases. But I think what they're running

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Speaker 1: And remember when he ran in twenty fifteen, Maureen Dowd

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Speaker 1: justices that got Roe v. Wade overturned Roe v. Wade

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Speaker 1: that's hard to mobilize on. Combine that buck.

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Speaker 2: With I do think on twenty twenty two they had

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Speaker 2: Remember Michael Beschlos was on MSNBC saying, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I'll be executed or not if the Republicans take

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Speaker 2: I think that it is. And when you're trying to

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Speaker 2: put your chief political rival in prison for the rest

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Speaker 2: of his life, it's hard to argue that you're the

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Speaker 2: stewards of democracy. What do they run on. That's why

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Speaker 2: I think they have to replace Biden, because he's everything

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Speaker 2: he's done is a failure.

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Speaker 1: I think if you were to do a sane and honest,

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Speaker 1: side by side comparison of the extreme things done to

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Speaker 1: Let's let's start with Tom.

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Speaker 3: It's a great analogy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, extreme things done to Trump. The first sorry, the

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Speaker 1: Russia collusion hoax, which was a hoax. That is not

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Speaker 1: an exaggeration at all. As we know, even the Muller

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Speaker 1: probe was unable to find anything having to do with

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Speaker 1: Russia and the Trump campaign working together to steal the election.

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Speaker 1: Not a single vote was changed by Russians hacking into machines,

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Speaker 1: but they used, as I always say, the process is

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Speaker 1: the punishment. So the Russia collusion hoax, that is an

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Speaker 1: extreme thing done to Trump. The first impeachment of Trump,

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Speaker 1: the second impeachment of Trump, the holding of four criminal indictments,

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Speaker 1: four indictments to drop so that they all happen in

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Speaker 1: the election year. Okay, the so do you just put that?

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Speaker 1: Put that in the column. The changing of New York

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Speaker 1: state law so that Trump can be sued for a

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Speaker 1: an alleged sexual assault from thirty years ago, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean that was basically they changed the law so that

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Speaker 1: statute of limitations exist for a reason. You just can't

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Speaker 1: defend yourself against things that happened thirty years ago. That

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Speaker 1: someone says you did a thing, and you say, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't do the thing, So how are

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Speaker 1: you proving? But they went after Trump on that the

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Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty million dollars of four hundred and

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Speaker 1: all the things, okay, that's in the a column of

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Speaker 1: extreme things done to Trump? What are the extreme things

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Speaker 1: that Trump has done? The Muslim band. Supreme Court ended

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Speaker 1: up upholding that, by the way, it wasn't a Muslim

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Speaker 1: band that was hysterical. Lie. The saying both people people

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Speaker 1: along both sides were good, that's a lie. That's not

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Speaker 1: the only thing that I think that a reasonable person

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Speaker 1: rhetoric from Trump, or the January or the rhetoric you know,

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Speaker 1: I would just say Trump wasn't in any way criminally

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Speaker 1: culpable for anything that happened on that day. And emotions

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Speaker 1: are running very high, and Democrats, Biden voters had been

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Speaker 1: rioting for months and it was like our sacred democracy

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Speaker 1: So I'm just if you're going to do a fair okay,

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Speaker 1: January sixth, you know, that's the thing that they will

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Speaker 1: point to and say, but it wasn't a coup, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't an insurrection. It was one Republican or you know,

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Speaker 1: one right of center riot. You add up all the

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Speaker 1: other things they've done to Trump. Who are the real extremists,

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Speaker 1: That's really what this is all getting to, or rather,

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Speaker 1: who is using extreme political measures against their opponents? And

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Speaker 1: I think it's not a close call. I think it's

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Speaker 1: not close at all. This is why their argument is

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Speaker 1: not working. And I was mentioning, I'm seeing these ads

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Speaker 1: and inflation related issues that many families, not only in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: That's why I think they have.

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Speaker 2: To pull the ripcord and end up with a new candidate,

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Speaker 2: because if you have a new candidate, you can go

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Speaker 2: back to running. Trump is an unprecedented threat to American democracy,

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Speaker 2: and insert new candidate is a better choice for America.

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Speaker 2: The problem that they have right now, Buck is that's

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Speaker 2: the campaign they ran in twenty twenty. Some of you

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Speaker 2: You did, and you've had buyers remorse since we've taken calls.

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Speaker 2: People say, you know what, I was upset over COVID.

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Speaker 2: We got war in Europe, war in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Ten million illegals have entered our country on the southern border.

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Speaker 2: Crime has skyrocketed, Your cost of goods has far exceeded

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Speaker 2: a tax. And you're looking around and you're saying, you

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Speaker 2: know what, nostalgically, the Trump era wasn't that bad. I'm

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Speaker 2: he's done a really poor job but if they suddenly

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Speaker 3: If you can get someone in.

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Speaker 2: There who has not been in the White House, that

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Speaker 2: person can run the Biden democracy case against Trump in

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Speaker 2: a way that maybe gets them across the finish line.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think people are suddenly going to break

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Speaker 2: you're suddenly going to convince people, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 2: Biden's actually done a good job. I want more of this.

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Speaker 2: I think he's dead in the water, and that doesn't

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Speaker 2: even factor in his dementia or his physical and mental

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Speaker 2: That's why I think they're at the ripcord moment. They're

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Speaker 2: And next week, the June twenty seventh, strangely scheduled presidential

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Speaker 2: debate I think has the potential for everybody to jump

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Speaker 2: it's time for a change. You know, the person is

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Speaker 2: the most difficult to persuade on this, doctor Jill biden

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Speaker 2: Buck in my opinion, who has to know better than

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Speaker 2: hang on to that power.

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Speaker 1: Just one more thing, you know, because I was talking

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Speaker 1: Back into Clay and Buck. So the masks on the

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Speaker 2: This is Kathy Hokel and Eric Adams. They had a

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Speaker 5: Listen, people have hid under the guise of wearing a

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Speaker 1: I agree with him, there's no reason, there's no reason

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Speaker 3: And so your point is, yes, KKK.

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Speaker 2: the reason why many protesters are wearing masks and those

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Speaker 3: While they're protesting.

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Speaker 2: where two hundred and sixty some odd innocent people were

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Speaker 2: murdered and where many people were kidnapped, and many people

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Speaker 2: in New York City showed up to protest in favor

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Speaker 2: of what happened at that event, and Eric Adams came

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Speaker 2: out and forcefully said this is unacceptable. And I give

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Speaker 2: him credit for that. As the mayor of New York City,

437
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Speaker 2: he's been far better on these issues than Joe Biden has.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's been a great mayor. I think

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Speaker 2: Buck you'd have to say he's been better than the

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Speaker 2: disaster that Deblasio was. Now he's not Rudy, he's not Bloomberg,

441
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Speaker 2: but he's not as bad as to Bill Deblasio was,

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Speaker 2: who may be the worst mayor in any of our

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Speaker 2: lives in terms.

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Speaker 3: Of his impact.

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Speaker 2: And he's at least sometimes getting to the right result

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Speaker 2: even with the craziness of New York City.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Eric Adams is I don't think

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Speaker 1: he has the managerial skill set to do what is

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Speaker 1: necessary in New York City in turn around, I think

450
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: he sometimes lacks the political will as well. However, he's

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Speaker 1: not malicious. He's not intentionally upending aspects of life in

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Speaker 1: New York City because he thinks that people need to

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Speaker 1: suffer more, because that's what justice demands. Deblasio was effectively

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Speaker 1: malicious in his approach to the city. It was you know,

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Speaker 1: if there's more crazy homeless people throwing things at you

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Speaker 1: on the streets, like that's the society we need to

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Speaker 1: live in, because that's fair. You know, Deblasio was intentional destruction. Adams,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes can be in over his head, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think that he is hoping that things get

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Speaker 1: worse for New Yorkers, because shared misery is what socialism

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Speaker 1: is all about at the end of the day, Like

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Speaker 1: Deblasio was ideologically predisposed toward New York's destruction and unfortunately

463
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Speaker 1: got very far because when he took over New York

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Speaker 1: it was in the best shape it has been in

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Speaker 1: in my in our lifetime, and pretty much every respect.

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Speaker 1: But the mask issue on the subways is just also

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Speaker 1: I think a little bit of a desperation because remember

468
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Speaker 1: when they deployed the National Guard and then they got

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Speaker 1: rid of it, you know, they lasted for a week

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Speaker 1: or two because that wasn't going to do anything. Fundamentally,

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Speaker 1: The problem is they have to lock up more criminals.

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Speaker 1: They have to lock up people who hurt people for

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Speaker 1: longer periods of time. There have to be punishments for

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Speaker 1: people who assault you know, New York City subway riders

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Speaker 1: and they have to be taken out of circulation. They

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Speaker 1: have to be taken out of you know, being able

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Speaker 1: to walk around and continue to do this. If you

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Speaker 1: have a city where people can get arrested fifty or

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Speaker 1: one hundred times without real punishment, you're going to have

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Speaker 1: a city where people are in fear on the subway

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Speaker 1: and everything around that. I mean, even the mask issue, well,

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Speaker 1: I agree with it. It's nibbling around the edges. But

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Speaker 1: Democrats are terrified of disparate impact through the enforcement of

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Speaker 1: criminal justice laws. Who's going to end up in Rikers

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Speaker 1: Island in larger numbers if they enforce the criminal justice

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Speaker 1: laws as they are written, not going to be Trump Vhoters.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that, Buck, when we come back

488
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Speaker 2: to see the story that's starting to trend a little

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Speaker 2: bit that the Biden people are nervous that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: has to stand up for ninety minutes for the debate

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Speaker 2: at CNN next week, and that they are potentially trying

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Speaker 2: to get it changed so that both candidates sit. I

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Speaker 2: talk to some people inside of the Trump team and

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Speaker 2: this was one of the things that they cared about

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Speaker 2: the most. They didn't want necessary. I mean, they would

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Speaker 2: have preferred audience all those things. One of the things

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Speaker 2: they cared about the most was they want Biden standing

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Speaker 2: because they legitimately aren't sure that he can manage to

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Speaker 2: stand for ninety minutes, walk out onto the stage, do

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Speaker 2: all those things. Can you believe we're at a point

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Speaker 2: where one of the candidates would be contemplating the physical

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Speaker 2: advantage they get from merely requiring someone to stand for

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Speaker 2: ninety minutes? Has that ever been a calculus that's ever

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Speaker 2: occurred that you can remember of an actual debate. And

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if Joe Biden, Joe Biden gets dizzy

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Speaker 2: and falls down on stage, Kamala Harris is the Democrat nominee.

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Speaker 1: That's how I see it. And I think that is

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Speaker 1: that I don't think they can come back from that.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you know this because you've done it,

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Speaker 2: standing under those bright lights is not easy to do

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Speaker 2: staring into them. There are a lot of mechanical things

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Speaker 2: that the average person who hasn't stood underneath those big

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Speaker 2: Kleague lights can think about. And I'm telling you, I'm

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Speaker 2: not convinced that Biden is going to avoid a frozen

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Speaker 2: moment in ninety minutes if he has to stand up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many times has he stood up for

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Speaker 2: ninety minutes and answered questions in the past four years?

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Speaker 3: Has he done it?

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Speaker 2: Maybe once at a long debate, I mean at a

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Speaker 2: could use some of that Biden juice. Whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: of the program, Buck.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting.

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Speaker 2: You were talking about Chammath, one of the guys from

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Speaker 2: the All In podcast out on the West Coast. David

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Speaker 2: Sachs did the big twelve million dollar fundraiser in San Francis,

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Speaker 2: but one of the top Sequoia execs as well as

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Speaker 2: Bill Ackman, who is I believe at Pershing these are

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Speaker 2: monster billionaire hedge fun guys involved in private equity, all

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Speaker 2: of those different fields out there. They confessed. I believe

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Speaker 2: the guy's name is McGuire, James McGuire. I think I

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Speaker 2: got that right.

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Speaker 3: Team. You can let me know if I'm wrong, but

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Speaker 3: I give credit to him.

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Speaker 2: He went on social media over the weekend and he said, hey,

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Speaker 2: full disclosure. I bought into the Very Fine People hoax.

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Speaker 2: I thought that it was legitimate and that Trump had

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Speaker 2: said that Neo Nazis were very fine people at the

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Speaker 2: Charlottesville situation.

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Speaker 3: I would say, Buck, I'm curious if you would agree.

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Speaker 2: I know Russia was more impactful in terms of what

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Speaker 2: went on there, but there were a few hundred or

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Speaker 2: a few thousand dollars spent on the Russian ads on Facebook.

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Speaker 2: Anybody who's ever bought Facebook ads knows how inconsequential that

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Speaker 2: is when you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: being spent on political ads. I think the Very Fine

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Speaker 2: People hoax might have been the most defective lie told

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Speaker 2: about Trump because so many people still believe it, even

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Speaker 2: if they are intelligent Otherwise people. This is why I

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Speaker 2: always think you and me and everyone out there, the

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Speaker 2: millions of people out there listening to us, we know

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Speaker 2: the very fine people hoax occurred. I think there's still

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Speaker 2: a lot of reasonable, very legitimate people who have success

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Speaker 2: in fields that trust the media to be honest with

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Speaker 2: them and have no idea they relied to about that.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen data on this in a while, but

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Speaker 1: I know that three years into Trump's term, you still

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Speaker 1: had an enormous number of Democrats who believed that Russia

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Speaker 1: had actually changed votes by the way in the election. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could go back and find you some of the polling,

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Speaker 1: but you know, for fifty percent, maybe even sixty percent

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Speaker 1: of Democrats thought that Russia had actually changed the votes

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen years into Trump's election. So that was

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Speaker 1: a another very effective lie. I mean, the whole Russia

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Speaker 1: collusion thing. I remember Trump told me this in the

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Speaker 1: Oval awful awful, sorry, Oval office probably feels awful if

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Speaker 1: you have to be stuck there too much when you're

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Speaker 1: president after a while, right, Who didn't one of the

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Speaker 1: presidents describe the White House as feeling like a prison.

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Speaker 1: But Trump told me in the Oval Office that and

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a very astute, very Trump company.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even make any sense. Yeah, Russia collusion thing,

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Speaker 1: You're you're gonna work with Russia to become president, and

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Speaker 1: then Russia is gonna have a thumb on you to

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Speaker 1: be able to destroy you at any point in time.

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Speaker 1: Trump Trump knows Putin and his ilk far too well

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Speaker 1: to think that.

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Speaker 2: That also understands leverage and negotiation. You would never want

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Speaker 2: to pry in that position.

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Speaker 1: This is like, are you gonna go borrow ow money

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Speaker 1: from a loan shark if you don't need the loan

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Speaker 1: sharks money. I mean, it just makes no sense. It

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Speaker 1: was a dumb idea. There was no part of it

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Speaker 1: that held together if you just thought it through. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna work with the Russians to do some you know,

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Speaker 1: hacking into voting machines or whatever. The whole thing was idiotic.

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Speaker 1: Entire Democrat aligned mainstream media believed it, and still I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of them believe it. If you go

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Speaker 1: on like the Bill Marsha would say, Russia collusion was

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Speaker 1: the collusion was a hoax. They still have Democratic guests

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Speaker 1: are going, oh no, it's you know, there was the

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Speaker 1: thing and the you know the meeting and the Trump Tower.

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Speaker 1: They they won't give it up. They won't give it up.

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Speaker 2: The reason why I think the Very Fine People hoax

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Speaker 2: was so impactful is Biden cited it as the entire

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Speaker 2: reason he ran for president in twenty twenty and as if, oh,

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Speaker 2: I saw what happened at Charlottesville. Now, if we had

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Speaker 2: an honest media, we basically have hundreds or thousands of

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Speaker 2: Charlottesville's taking place every single week all over this country

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Speaker 2: since October seven. And Joe Biden claimed he was going

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Speaker 2: to restore the soul of the nation. I would argue

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Speaker 2: that he's made the soul of the nation far more

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Speaker 2: toxic than maybe it's ever been in any of our lives.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that we have guys like this who

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Speaker 2: are intelligent, coming out and saying, oh, I'm now seeing

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Speaker 2: the truth makes me optimistic that increasingly people are opening

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Speaker 2: their eyes, particularly young people, black, White, Asian and Hispanic,

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Speaker 2: who may well be breaking for Trump in numbers we've

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Speaker 2: never seen for a Republican candidate. I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of reason for optimism. Time to add on some steam,

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Speaker 2: and I'm seeing that steam all over Georgia with the

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Speaker 2: dementia or dishonesty ads, which I give credit. I think

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Speaker 2: they're really effective and I've seen them a ton. Just

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Speaker 2: watching regular programming down here in Georgia with my family

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Speaker 2: over Father's Day weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, everybody. We'll be talking to

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Speaker 1: you more tomorrow. See you then,