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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you. Karen Grillo is with US Licensed Psychotherapists, visionary leader,

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Speaker 1: inspirational speaker, proprietor of the Casa Condor Retreat Center in

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Speaker 1: Mount Shasta, California. She offers online trainings and authentic spiritual leadership,

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Speaker 1: natural immersions, intuitive healing arts in person training as well.

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Speaker 1: She has dedicated her life to sharing the life changing

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Speaker 1: gifts she has received while learning to work with angels.

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Speaker 1: He's also the author of Angel Wealth and Magic and

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Speaker 1: The Angel Experiment, which he was on with me about

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Speaker 1: three years ago. Karen, welcome back. It's so great to

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Speaker 1: be here. George, days for having me. How's our angel

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Speaker 1: lady doing? Oh gosh, I'm actually strangely fabulous at midnight.

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Speaker 1: That's good. We're going to keep pushing you for two hours.

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Speaker 1: How did this all start for you? Yeah, it started

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Speaker 1: with a you know, an average day, and I witnessed

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Speaker 1: him miracle brought on by the angels, and you know,

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Speaker 1: just the little backstories that I mostly suffered with depression

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Speaker 1: for most of my life. Literally decades, and back then,

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Speaker 1: my only prayer was pretty much you know, I remember

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Speaker 1: waking up in the morning and hoping that that day

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Speaker 1: would be my last, and so that was pretty much

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Speaker 1: fair a prayer I would do back then. But I

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Speaker 1: witnessed a miracle. It changed everything that I believed about life,

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Speaker 1: what's possible, and it set me on this pretty bizarre

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Speaker 1: journey towards understanding a spirit, understanding who I am on

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Speaker 1: the inside, and then eventually sharing sharing what I've learned

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Speaker 1: with others so that they could open up to the

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Speaker 1: magic and to the miracles themselves. Did you ask the

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Speaker 1: angels to come help you or did they just do

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Speaker 1: it on their own? Well, yeah, I asked the Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I asked the angel because I had an angel

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Speaker 1: reading a few days prior, and the lady told me

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Speaker 1: she said, talk to angels through real and I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right. And you know, at the time I was

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Speaker 1: I was, you know, open to the idea of angels,

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Speaker 1: but I wasn't a full onbeliever just yet. And so

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Speaker 1: it was actually when I prayed, I was I was

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Speaker 1: driving a bird dropped out of the sky and landed

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Speaker 1: It had a broken wing, and so I asked the

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Speaker 1: angels to support the bird, take it out of its suffering.

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Speaker 1: And it was the angels that did a radical healing

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Speaker 1: on that bird before my eyes. Um it literally the

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Speaker 1: bird divided into three small birds and flew away in

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Speaker 1: front of my eyeballs. And so it was when I

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Speaker 1: prayed for something else that that the miracle happened. And

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Speaker 1: and you know I was and I am a psychotherapist,

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Speaker 1: so I essentially it just like I said earlier, it

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Speaker 1: knocked everything that I believed to be true out out

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Speaker 1: just put up to a whole other other level. And

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Speaker 1: that's when I started not just believing in miracles, but

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Speaker 1: knowing that they're real and learning more about how to

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Speaker 1: make them happen. It's fantastic. I'm looking forward to when

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Speaker 1: we take calls next hour because oh my gosh, man,

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Speaker 1: this why is it that this is the season for

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Speaker 1: miracles angelic intervention? It just seems to me it is,

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Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? I you know what's fascinating, George, is

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Speaker 1: that when I first started doing this work and when

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Speaker 1: I said yes to really looking to reach people across

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Speaker 1: quite believe in that. But it was during this time

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Speaker 1: a year where they had me stop what I was

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Speaker 1: doing and create a twenty one day adventure or journey

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Speaker 1: or ritual and it was you know, and it started

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Speaker 1: So there is something. So I did create it and

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Speaker 1: people had wonderful success. And actually that is the basis

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Speaker 1: for my first book, The Angel Experiment, which which is

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Speaker 1: where we had you on back in November of twenty nineteen. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so so that book came from an inspiration from

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Speaker 1: the angels where they created this beautiful twenty one day

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Speaker 1: essentially ceremony to invite deeper, deeper love and peace into

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Speaker 1: our hearts. So every year I do that program and

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Speaker 1: it's like an Angel holiday. But I feel that like

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Speaker 1: this time of year is it's almost like celebration for

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Speaker 1: So you know, so yeah, it's a beautiful time of year.

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Speaker 1: It really is. And I'm in Saint Louis right now

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Speaker 1: that's so so wonderful. I haven't been there this time

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Speaker 1: thank you. They're awesome. Yet that's super. Now that's your

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Speaker 1: second book, which has just come out, is called Angel

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Speaker 1: Wealth Magic. Tell me about the title. First of all, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean to speak for itself, George, it's all about

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Speaker 1: Angel Wealth Magic. Well, wolf doesn't always necessarily mean money, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this one literally means cash, cashola, greenbacks. But also

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Speaker 1: with all the work that I do, it's really designed

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Speaker 1: to open up us up also to inner wealth. So

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Speaker 1: it's both. It's it's kind of it's a process that

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Speaker 1: I developed actually during lockdown, where I kind of let

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So I decided instead of working,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a ritual. I'm gonna do some wealth

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Speaker 1: attraction with the angels. So did I did some research

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Speaker 1: and found some angels that magicians have used historically for

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Speaker 1: centuries millennia to attract wealth. So I did this to

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Speaker 1: ritual as eleven Day ritual, and within two weeks attracted

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Speaker 1: that is crazy. So I it was. I wasn't sure.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I did. I created a program or

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Speaker 1: back in the day when I had that first miracle happen,

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Speaker 1: the miracles that ensued some of them in financial miracles.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't learn about angels through books or through

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Speaker 1: like you know, bibles or anything like that. I learned

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Speaker 1: through experience and working with them. And I have never

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Speaker 1: to feel safe. And I think that's one of my

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Speaker 1: needs met, period. And there's no difference between money or

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Speaker 1: what I found with Spirit is that the spirit, our

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Speaker 1: spirit team, doesn't judge us. Humans judge us, or we

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Speaker 1: judge ourselves. In chapter three, you kind of depict angels

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Speaker 1: historically been worked with for this. When we pray, are

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Speaker 1: all three vehicles are getting engaged. The human is focusing

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Speaker 1: clarity if you're looking for any level of clarity, if

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Speaker 1: you're needing peace. I have witnessed all kinds of miracles,

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Speaker 1: people that I serve all over the world. And that

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Speaker 1: includes physical health miracles, emotional miracles, love miracles, and you know,

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Speaker 1: income miracles. And there are people out there right now

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Speaker 1: who are limiting their own belief in who they are,

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Speaker 1: their own potential. Angels also help us come into contact

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Speaker 1: with our purpose, our life purpose, and our mission, which

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Speaker 1: is exactly what they did for me. Amazing. Now you

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Speaker 1: talk about four magical basics that are required for this

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Speaker 1: to work. Tell us about that. Yeah, well, I see

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Speaker 1: is some really basic things, but they're important. So they

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Speaker 1: world view, just yet you're still open to possibilities, almost

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Speaker 1: like a child. The desire, So having a real heartfelt

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