WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Taking Your Questions

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World dbours at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco, Flowing gold Sack and now your hosts

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah stand Back, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Yeoman's Oh it's a fans on the fifty edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Talking Cowboys here on this Tuesday from Frisco. Hey, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yeoman's Isaiah stand back with you in studio, Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips are Cowboys Insider and the fantastic, the vibrant, the

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<v Speaker 1>sultry voice of mister heck Ma Harrison as always leading

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<v Speaker 1>you into another fantastic episode and one where we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>really break down this this Cowboys loss. We we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had the emotional reaction yesterday to the twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>to three loss to the Washington football team on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the emotional reaction. Now we have the logical

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<v Speaker 1>reaction whenever it goes into Tuesday. And by logical I

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<v Speaker 1>mean just basically we're going to think about it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more than than just letting it ride with

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah just being completely emotional and it was emotional. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like it was irrational. Isaiah don't deal with emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's he's only sexual never ever, ever, Yeah, ok, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my wife shall tell you. Hey, we got some

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<v Speaker 1>some emotion from Jerry Jones on the fan just now, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we did. With Rob Would you like to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go into what happened there because he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>in not the best mood this morning. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>little testy, a little testy about the question from Sean

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<v Speaker 1>and RJ about the leadership on the team right now

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<v Speaker 1>and as they're a void, and he got a little

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<v Speaker 1>testy about that one. And that's okay, you know. He

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<v Speaker 1>apologized to Sean at the end and said, look, this

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<v Speaker 1>is basically this is a tough time right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough time for our fans. I think fans

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<v Speaker 1>needed to hear that this is this is a rough stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>This is as rough as stretch, guys as I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember since maybe twenty ten when they got they got

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<v Speaker 1>blown out in a bunch of games leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>a coaching change. And that's not going to happen here.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not that's not happening here. Obviously it's here one

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike McCarthy there. They have the utmost confidence in him,

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<v Speaker 1>but just it has that kind of hopeless feeling right

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<v Speaker 1>now until they can get out of this and with

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries, it's going to be hard to do it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever it comes to Jerry and his reaction, like you,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it a moment ago that it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>the fans kind of kind of want to hear. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear frustration out of your football team. And Isaiah,

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<v Speaker 1>you both you and Heckma talked to a yesterday about

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<v Speaker 1>the passion and finding a pride factor whenever it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to winning football games and stepping up and doing your job.

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<v Speaker 1>But whenever you're hearing that from the owner, is that

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging to you or is it just another morale win

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<v Speaker 1>or a morale boost. I guess you could say from

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<v Speaker 1>a team that's just itching for any kind of boost.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, from the players perspective, I don't put any

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<v Speaker 1>extra on it. Right from the fans perspective, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's encouraging for sure. I can only imagine a frustration

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<v Speaker 1>that Jerry has and his entire team, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the start that this team has had. They put in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work this offseason, and I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've made that very clear. We agree that they made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of strategic moves, a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>look great on paper that as ownership, as management, you

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<v Speaker 1>expect to really come through for you, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't come through. So, you know, when you have those expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've done your work, when you've done your job,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the players get out there and don't do

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<v Speaker 1>it there, I would think that you would be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit a little bit testy as he was today.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever it comes to doing the same thing, whenever it

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<v Speaker 1>comes from an ownership perspective, do you put extra I

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<v Speaker 1>guess factor into it? Do you put extra val you

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<v Speaker 1>into it? Whenever it comes from Jerry Jones, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear Jerry's, you know, voice, his frustration about

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<v Speaker 1>the way things are going right now. I think everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is frustrated. They can't believe they're what they're seeing on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jerry's not gonna put on a helmet and go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and make this right. And so for the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are on this team, they realize that they're

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<v Speaker 1>putting out a lot of bad tape, and everybody right

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<v Speaker 1>now can go back and see a lot of plays

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<v Speaker 1>just not being played being made. Excuse me, guy's missing assignments.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not It's not a good place to be. And

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<v Speaker 1>now people can you can deal with your team losing,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think that anyone expected this season to

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<v Speaker 1>be the seventy two Dolphins. But when guys just are

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<v Speaker 1>not giving any effort at all, and when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're coming on a stunt and it's just as

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<v Speaker 1>slow as it possibly can be on blitz and you're

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<v Speaker 1>missing things, that's all on the coaching staff and these players.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I appreciate Jerry going on one of five

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<v Speaker 1>point through the fan and being frustrated with those questions

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<v Speaker 1>that he was being asked. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, it's going to be up to these players

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<v Speaker 1>to get this corrected. Whenever it comes to going to

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<v Speaker 1>the next level and finding another way to find that

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<v Speaker 1>pride and to find that energy, I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>it starts. And honestly, on the defensive side of football,

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<v Speaker 1>you just might be bad. Offensively, you might just be

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<v Speaker 1>banged up. There are a couple different excuses Jerry alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to all of those in the interview, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit frustrating, I think for every Cowboys fan. But Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you look at it now and you move into

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<v Speaker 1>what is now week eight of the season, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>up against Philadelphia. Who has to step up whenever it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to a pride fact or whenever it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>finding a way to take reins of this team. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it the coaching staff or is it some of these

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<v Speaker 1>veteran leaders with the bigger contracts. Well, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>starts with the players. I think what Tank said after

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<v Speaker 1>the game is exactly what needs to happen. There's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be more belief from the team that when things

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong they can dig out of it. Now, to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, Kyle, especially offensively, there reaches a point with injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's that it's not an excuse. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>simple fact of being out outmatched, and they were outmatched

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<v Speaker 1>in that game. Especially when Andy Dalton goes down and

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<v Speaker 1>you've already got a lot of guys compromise on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. It really affects the way you can function.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a simple fact of it. Especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>get behind. Turnovers don't help. The safety doesn't help. That's

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<v Speaker 1>been a big problem this year. That has to get

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned up. But yeah, there's got to be guys have

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<v Speaker 1>to continue playing with confidence no matter what happens. If

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<v Speaker 1>they don't, then it's just going to continue to snowball.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what they really need more than anything,

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<v Speaker 1>they need a takeaway on defense. They need something to

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<v Speaker 1>spark the defense. I think they're I think they're tied

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<v Speaker 1>for the fewest takeaways in the league this year with

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<v Speaker 1>three I believe maybe four um And that's been a

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<v Speaker 1>continuing problem for years. It hasn't changed this year. But

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<v Speaker 1>they need that. They need something to spark the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna need something to help this offense because

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<v Speaker 1>right now we have to operate under under the assumption

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<v Speaker 1>that Ben de Nucci's the quarterback this week. Unless Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton can get out of concussion protocol swiftly, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>de Nucci's team. And that's a lot to ask on

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<v Speaker 1>the road in Philly for a first career start man.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, yeah talking yeah, no, Ick, my go for it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to piggyback off of what Rob said, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's big old facts right there, Rob Phillis, because this

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<v Speaker 1>defense needs something to feel good about. They have nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that first drive, Yeah, you know m

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<v Speaker 1>last Sunday that you're getting that stop on the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that would be the thing to galvanize the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Although they took with the whole length of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>They need something. They need something where, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it be an interception, whether it be locking a number

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<v Speaker 1>one receiver down, stopping doing something. They have nothing at

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<v Speaker 1>all to hang their hat on um offensively for this

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<v Speaker 1>decimated offensive line. It's gonna come down to just establishing

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<v Speaker 1>something right now. In the absence of Dak Prescott. I

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<v Speaker 1>think since he's been out, we haven't I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers are and I don't want to say this wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>that we haven't scored any what ten thirteen points uh

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<v Speaker 1>since since Dak's absence. So that's not acceptable and there

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a way to get all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things back on track, even with the injuries that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Zah, Yeah. I think. I mean for me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's they win big one big play from every phase

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, right we need a big play on

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<v Speaker 1>offense to establish a confidence in the entire offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>the receiver cord, the entire coaching staff that this unit

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<v Speaker 1>that's out there can actually make some plays. So you

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<v Speaker 1>need one big play that obviously results in a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>something major. Then on the special team side of the things,

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<v Speaker 1>you need you need something major as well. You need

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<v Speaker 1>a block kick, You need a punt return block for

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<v Speaker 1>a return. You need something that really spikes it again

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<v Speaker 1>that gets to energy and a morale going. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on the defensive side of the ball, we gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>a takeaway. Right, It'd be awesome if we have a strip, sack,

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<v Speaker 1>scoop score. Right, If we can have something major from

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<v Speaker 1>all three phases of the game in one game, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that everybody will look at each other and say, crap,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not too dog on bad, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We we can figure this thing out. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>if just having one thing go right in one phase

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, I think is really gonna It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>leave everybody up for a question and say, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>our weas announce was to look at these guys and

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<v Speaker 1>make plays for us instead of everybody. And we need

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<v Speaker 1>all three fasts working together now, just to play devil's

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<v Speaker 1>advocate here. Of course, during the Giants game, you did

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<v Speaker 1>get one of those plays. You've got the strip sack

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<v Speaker 1>and the fumble recovery and it was returned for a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown by Anthony Brown. So you had one of those plays.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you also, let's say, let's take it to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a special teams play that was actually what

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<v Speaker 1>resulted in the three points was just because Tony Poller

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<v Speaker 1>got down the field and had the sixty seven yard

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<v Speaker 1>kick return. So you've had a couple of these flash plays.

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<v Speaker 1>But are you saying you have to string them together

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<v Speaker 1>or is one good enough to finally turn them a

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<v Speaker 1>round around on this football team, now, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to string them together. And I know that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to ask, but it's something that's definitely doable. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, we've been seeing flashes of it, a little

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<v Speaker 1>a little taste of it, but we need all three

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<v Speaker 1>fasts to come together. And the reason being because it

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<v Speaker 1>brings your team together. It makes it feel as if

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<v Speaker 1>not one one unit won the game for you. One

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<v Speaker 1>one unit puts you in a position to win the game.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're able to look at everybody who touches the field,

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<v Speaker 1>all the special teamers, all the guys on defense, all

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<v Speaker 1>the guys on offense, and say hey, I played a

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<v Speaker 1>part in something major today. I think it has it

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<v Speaker 1>has a big effect now, kind of going to change

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<v Speaker 1>the subject here, just based off of the banged up

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line and of course what we're dealing with in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of in terms of Andy Dalton and him getting

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<v Speaker 1>knocked out in the third quarter, rob we heard yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>from Mike McCarthy that Andy Dalton is going to enter

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<v Speaker 1>h concussion protocol and he is going to be throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the week. He was not in team meetings yesterday, though

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the building. At this point, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have Ben de Nucci ready either way to play

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback right now? Is it? Is it enough to galvanize

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<v Speaker 1>and to find a way to rally around a seventh

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<v Speaker 1>round rookie and Ben Denucci this week and give him

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<v Speaker 1>the resources necessary to be successful on Sunday should he

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<v Speaker 1>be the starting quarterback? They got no choice, They have

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<v Speaker 1>no choice if that's the case. And uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we'll see on Andy. I know, I know they've

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<v Speaker 1>said that it's his it's his first concussion, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that means typically that's a longer you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're more careful or I don't you're you're the same

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<v Speaker 1>level careful every time. But I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>it takes longer through the protocol with the first concussion

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<v Speaker 1>or not. I don't know if that's significant, but I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to operate under the assumption as they moved

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<v Speaker 1>through the week that Bendanusci, when you put a game

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<v Speaker 1>plan together, he's gonna be your starter. And maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>changes by the end of the week, but they Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I said the same thing though, when when

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton came in, that you've got to when your backup

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback comes in, and it's the same thing for your

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<v Speaker 1>third string quarterback. Everybody has to raise their level of play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think Isaiah spoke to this before the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals game that Dalton's not supposed to be the reason

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<v Speaker 1>you win or lose games. It's got to be guys,

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<v Speaker 1>receivers doing more to make themselves quarterback friendly. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>run game, it's the offensive line. Defensively, it's making something happen,

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<v Speaker 1>just like we talked about, and defensively to piggyback on

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys said. It is stringing it together. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not always got to be just big splash plays, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be down after down, just your assignments,

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<v Speaker 1>just the simple part of your assignments. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Nolan said, you know, a couple of games ago

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<v Speaker 1>against the Cardinals, they had about thirty plays to start

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<v Speaker 1>the game where it was, it was solid, it was

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<v Speaker 1>good enough, then went south. And that's the problem. They

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been consistent on defensive or really in any area

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<v Speaker 1>for an entire game. Until they do that, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>who they're playing, they're gonna have trouble winning football games. Hema, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Asaiah has said it before about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>teams during the week in their preparation for games and

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<v Speaker 1>guys not getting those first team reps. And so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>if if we're saying that Andy Dalton is in concussion protocol,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the building, but he's not taking those reps,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that tomorrow as an indicator on whether

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be able to play. But if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>then bender Nucci is your guy, and you're right back

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<v Speaker 1>to square one with some of your issues that you

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<v Speaker 1>have before and that's your receivers being in rhythm with

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<v Speaker 1>your quarterback. And now we have a seven rookie quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>so that there's got to be heightened awareness for what

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<v Speaker 1>the playbook is, what the play call is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be for him, our game plan is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what I'm trying to say for being in the

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<v Speaker 1>Nucci because this is a this is a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys being down to our third string quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and an offensive line that is not getting giving us

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of protection, where do we go. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to the running game, But in the

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<v Speaker 1>last seven games, guys, we hadn't had any any spark

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<v Speaker 1>at all from the running game or anything to tell

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<v Speaker 1>us that that's something that we can rely on. So

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<v Speaker 1>we keep talking feedsique, feed you know, polar just get

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<v Speaker 1>some balance, but we're not able to get that compliment

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<v Speaker 1>for our quarterbacks that are coming in that need those

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<v Speaker 1>things in order to be successful. Now those are facts, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't and I know I really shouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 1>any don't's gonna be fine. But you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>knocked out before and it's not that bad. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've had a concussion before I've had my

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<v Speaker 1>share of him, but here I feel like it's if

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be back. But you know, obviously we have to

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<v Speaker 1>watch what the medical crew does. Those guys are amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it is the Nucci, right, if it is

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<v Speaker 1>the Nucci um, then he he's like and there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>no questions about it. I mean, it's not the situation

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<v Speaker 1>that you want, but it is what it is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that's what you have to do in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. You face your your You handled all cards

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<v Speaker 1>that you're given, right, whatever cars you're dealt, you deal

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<v Speaker 1>with them. You don't make any excuses you steered. Your

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<v Speaker 1>job is still to go out there and do your

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<v Speaker 1>assignment and get victories, no matter who's in a position

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<v Speaker 1>of quarterback, no matter who's leading this team. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a great point because that's one of our

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<v Speaker 1>actual fan on the fifty questions that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>address when we come back after this break. But what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on whenever it comes to the depth of

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<v Speaker 1>this team. We were told off all off season long

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<v Speaker 1>that we're built for depth, We're built for these injuries

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<v Speaker 1>and for whatever comes at you. We're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>who's responsible for that not being the same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>depth that we were anticipated for going into the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty season. We're gonna hit that and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>with the sounder for fans on the fifty. Fans on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty almost forgot it. Chris Beam got in my

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<v Speaker 1>So once again, every Tuesday nine fifty, we're gonna answer

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<v Speaker 1>haven't already. Which one do I want to go with first? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna start things off. Oh yeah, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good amount of them. But let's go with Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Proctor first. And this kind of sounds like a it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a bit of a sarcastic question, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask it in a real way. If the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are going to trade players or player why not put

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<v Speaker 1>actual players on the trading block that you could get

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<v Speaker 1>a couple picks or another player for rob and and

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<v Speaker 1>basically I think he's alluding to the Don Taripo and

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<v Speaker 1>Daryl Worley being reports of him being on the trade block.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm turning it around to actual where would you

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<v Speaker 1>go in terms of actual players that could get something

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. We love Jeff, Jeff never misses as

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<v Speaker 1>a show, never, but I gotta disagree with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta disagree with Jeff. I mean, you're you're at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, as bad as things are, You're

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<v Speaker 1>a half game out of first place with nine games left.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know it's bad. We watched it. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>missed the snap it's been. It's been really bad. But

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<v Speaker 1>the season's not over. And that's the Cowboys are are

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<v Speaker 1>in this business to win football games and win divisions

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<v Speaker 1>and give yourself a chance to win a championship. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have that opportunity, you have to go play

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<v Speaker 1>for it. If you've got guys on your roster that

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<v Speaker 1>can help you this season, you don't. You don't tank.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any team in the league tanks. I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't, especially this season. I think there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody, as weird as this year is, to at

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<v Speaker 1>least try to get in the tournament. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going to try to do. Okay, follow up

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<v Speaker 1>question going away from any Oh, I'm sorry I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, follow up question. I'm asking it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Heck much. So with that being said, and you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about don't tank because of the opportunities that lie I had,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the NFC East, does this also play a

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<v Speaker 1>factor in terms of the evaluation prospect of process of

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<v Speaker 1>these draft picks and how tough it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>to evaluate a slew of these big time draft picks

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<v Speaker 1>that are at the top of the board because of

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<v Speaker 1>them either opting out of the college football season or

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<v Speaker 1>not playing a full college football season. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the top dogs in the draft, you know what they

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<v Speaker 1>can do, and you know it's as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>evaluation process of our own team, that's what I'm basically

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<v Speaker 1>looking at. I'm looking at who's giving up. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at who's gonna be here next year. Guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>under contract, Guys that you know that we brought in.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you giving us? Because if the perception is

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<v Speaker 1>that all is lost and there's there's nothing to play for.

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<v Speaker 1>If your players reflecting that, I don't want you around.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm definitely not even considering getting rid of any

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's we talked to us a name. Let's we've

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<v Speaker 1>heard people talk about Michael Gallup and potentially training him

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<v Speaker 1>for some draft picks. Hell no, no, that's no way. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>no that's not what that's not even no, So not

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And again, the evaluation process of everybody, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>under the microscope, even the trainers. Zah, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's too early. Rob just said it and how I

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<v Speaker 1>alluded to it yesterday and people didn't like it because

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<v Speaker 1>you know how I take that emotion out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know you're a half game back. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you're a half game back. Yeah, you're here to win

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<v Speaker 1>the division, right, that's step number one, Number one. Your

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<v Speaker 1>goal number one when you walk in for summer camp

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<v Speaker 1>is win the division. Boom. That's the goal. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>and that is attainable. It's attainable. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>you do it with with a with a five or

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<v Speaker 1>six win season. You get in the dog on game, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it's about. Get in the game, however you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I don't care how ugly it is. If

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<v Speaker 1>you win a game, if you win a Super Bowl, right,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody cares about how ugly it was. You just care

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that you walk away with a ring.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all that ultimately matters. So as bad as it is,

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<v Speaker 1>as Rob said, as bad as it is, you still

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance, and that's all you can ask for.

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<v Speaker 1>You hope, you put your hope in this team that

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<v Speaker 1>they'll figure it out. We got veterans coming back this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we have some more coming back at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. Hopefully these guys start playing well and

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<v Speaker 1>all this hope that we have, right, we put it

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<v Speaker 1>all together and we get a little hope, Samwich and

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<v Speaker 1>these guys can figure this thing out. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's still potential that these guys can go on

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<v Speaker 1>a run. And that's all they need. We've already got

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<v Speaker 1>people in the chat, Sandwich, right, Yeah, Well they're all

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<v Speaker 1>asking for for the for the draft show. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>hope Sandwich right now is is the draft up on

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<v Speaker 1>the horizon. But I don't think that's the case. Go

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<v Speaker 1>go for a Rob Can. I just add this last

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<v Speaker 1>bow on this because I appreciate fans man. They keep

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.680
<v Speaker 1>us in business and they're going through a lot right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is no fun, I get it. But you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have it both ways, right. You can't accuse players of

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<v Speaker 1>quitting and not giving effort and the same breath saying

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>let's just play for next year, let's trade away for

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>picks and and do all that that. What type of

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<v Speaker 1>message does that send to the team, to the organization,

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<v Speaker 1>to the locker room. That's that's not the way to

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 1>go about it. And especially when you've got a new

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>coach that's trying to create a culture, a culture a

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<v Speaker 1>foundation for his program about grit and toughness and all

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>those things that Mike McCarthy has been about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way from growing up in Pittsburgh to being

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach of the Green Bay Packers to now.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't send that message. You just can't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how bad things are, no matter how bleak

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>things look the rest of the season, you know. And

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a fantastic point because one of the big reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why this is even a conversation is because you just lost,

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<v Speaker 1>right Well, if you just lost and you're wanting to tank.

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't you be happy? Shouldn't you be wanting to I

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:37.719
<v Speaker 1>mean that's the thing is, like, like you said, you

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.360
<v Speaker 1>can't have it both ways. You can't go too and fourteen,

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>or at least be on that course to go too

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen and then be unhappy with the production that's

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>on the field. There's no way that that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen regardless in this organization. I'll just let you know.

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Let that be known. Now, you're not going to see

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<v Speaker 1>a tanking football team, especially when you're only a half

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<v Speaker 1>game out of first place and you have a chance

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to make a playoff front and remain relevant. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>you go six and ten and when the NFC East,

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>you're still not going to necessarily see a tanking season

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>at least at this point. Now that's crazy. I say,

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>this question is for you. Yes, Kevin comes out here

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and he asks, and he's another loyal, loyal listener. He said,

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>why haven't we signed Earl Thomas? Who? And I know

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>you want to sign Earl Thomas, So let it go, Kevin.

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Kevin's Kevin's putting saying on the spot, keV, I'll put

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it like this, if my name was Jerry Jones, which

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>is not, which is not? It's definitely not Jerry. I

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:45.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have those commas. UM, I would have been signed

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas, and I think that's very as very apparent

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>on this show. I have made that very bundle league

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>clear that I would have signed him a long time ago.

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>And maybe that's just a personal thing because I know

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the competitor that he is. UM. I know, I don't

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>know all the issues that they're referencing that people are

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the reason why people are scared of him. I don't know.

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't experience that with my time with Earl U

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>as a teammate or as a friend. UM, I do

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>know that he is. He was one of the greatest

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>competitors that I've ever played with. And I know what

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>this team has been missing. I know what was a

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>question mark about this team at that particular position, and

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that that that is still a question mark

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.879
<v Speaker 1>for us. So I don't know why we haven't signed him. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't. I don't have an answer for you,

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>but I do know that it's not too late and

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>m and the things the same reasons why I wanted

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to bring him on the team. You know, a month ago.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Are the same reasons why I think he would be

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<v Speaker 1>beneficial to not only the secondary, but then this entire

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>defense and its entirety. I like that answer. That's pretty

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>good over. I mean, that's a good explanations that you

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 1>would do it. But there's other factors and there's different

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>things that come into it that that definitely make it

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting. I would entertain the option. It can't

0:26:58.080 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>really get much worse. So we kind of mentioned that

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in a to yesterday. I think Rob made the joke

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 1>is like, whenever it comes to the locker room, when

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>is it couldn't get worse time with the locker room

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>at that? Yeah, just like, let's go ahead and figure

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>this out. Let's maybe it helps. I don't know, Uh,

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>this one comes from Jay or no, I take it back,

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 1>This is from Uh. I can't read the name. Okay,

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>so this is not Jay. It's another loyal listener though,

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and he asked Quinn and Williams from the Jets defensive

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:34.120
<v Speaker 1>tackle defensive lineman he's reportedly been shopped around this week.

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Heck Bun of course, with the need that you need

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the interior defensive line. If he was

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>available for a second rounder. So this is the opposite

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>of tanking. This is adding talent and giving up a

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>draft pick to do so, would you entertain the option

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of getting Quinn and Williams on this defensive line? Quinn

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and Williams from Alabama is a future star in this

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>league if it was, I mean he was, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>top five pick. The Jets would trade him for a

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>second that, Yes, I would do it that. The answer

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>is yes, that, but I just absolutely don't see them

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>do that. Ye. Yeah. He was picked third overall in

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen drafts, so this is only his second year.

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Goodness great, and they're already shopping this guy for a

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>second round pick. Had three sacks this season, had two

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and a half a year ago, so it's not like

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>he's necessarily played up to that third round pick caliber.

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that they're already shopping him, does that

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>give you any pause? Rob? Oh, we lost Rob. That's unfortunate,

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>but I think either way. One the reports are now

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>coming out Rich Simony from I don't know where he's from,

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>he's a Jets report. He said the Jets are not

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>shopping Quinn and Williams per league source, So at least

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>they're at least they're throwing it out there and then

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>they're reeling it back in at some point. But yeah,

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of different things with him. So Rob

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>is apparently back in the mix. Rob, Are you there, buddy?

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Got you okay? Sweet? So we were talking about Quinn

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and Williams and what he could potentially bring to a

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>defensive line if he's even available, but not even talking

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>about the players specifically. Would you be interested in adding

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>talent specifically on the defensive line in the middle of

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>this season, in the middle of this run. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I think yeah, just generally speaking, I think that

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest issue they've got right now, because I

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>think Jerry alluded to it on the fan like five times,

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the run defense, and I know we've talked about it

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot. It starts there because if you're not if

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you're not sound there, you're on skates. You're allowing the

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>offense to dictate everything they want to do. Like Heckma said,

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>open their full playbook. And that's that's been the problem.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, when they're not getting a push or they're

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>getting washed out of plays, it's affecting the linebacker. It's

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>affecting everything and then you bring play action in the mix.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>So I think, yes, I think that's probably the biggest

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>issue they've got. I said this yesterday though, when you're

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about maybe adding someone through a trade, you've got

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to be mindful of your salary cap because I don't

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>think you can get into a situation like you work

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>two years ago with Amari, who big time talent. It's

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>going to need a monster deal in a year or two,

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and not only do you need to pay Dak, but

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you need to, you know, just make room in your

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>salary cap because there's no question it's gonna drop. It's

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>either gonna be a flat cap or it's gonna drop

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit from what it is now, which is

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>close to two hundred million dollars, and nobody really knows.

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>So you've got to be really careful with what you

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>know your structure of your CAP's gonna look like. You

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>always hear about the pieces of the pie. You hear

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>about the pie and the salary cap and what you've

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>built at the moment. And final question before we get

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>into our third segment coming up here in just a

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but how would you grade Connor mcgunn's play

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>over the last two weeks. And Isaiah, we'll start with

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you and then go back around the table in terms

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of what you guys have seen from Connor McGovern coming

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>in at that right guard spot in the absence of

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Zack Martin. Be honest with you, I haven't done my

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>my deep dive in on him specifically. I've more soul

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>looked at the offensive line as a whole um, so

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I probably wouldn't be the one to speak delivery on him.

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Offensive line as a whole not good. So we've got

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that grade down. Heck have you have you looked a

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit at at Connor McGovern Heck, yeah, I have.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>And and you know, I didn't think he gave up

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>any He didn't give up a sack, he didn't give

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>up a pressure. I mean he's he had a pretty

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>solid game in the midst of it. I mean the

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>guy on the other side of him, he may want

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to take a look at him and get him some

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>more help. I don't know what they have to do

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>for Tara Steel. He was just out match U. And

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I know we're talking about mcgovernor. Just Tara Steel popped

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>in my head right there. But you know mcgovernor has

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>played mcgovernor has played played well beyond Chazz as well.

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, man, when we say on the scale of

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>one to ten, ten being absolutely wonderful, this, no, we're

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>not at ten. But you know, I think his high

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>six seven is doing pretty good right now. Then you

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>also look at the Yeah, I think given, go for it, Rob,

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Sorry, Kyle Well, I just yeah. I mean,

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, given what they're dealing with upfront, it's it

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been good all the way around. I think the

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>tackle spots were probably the spots that really struggled the

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>most in the game, containing those edges, which isn't a

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>surprise when you're talking about Chase Young and Montes Sweat. Yes,

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I think he's played. You know, he's been solid.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess given the fact what you know, what they're facing,

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in the fact that there's not veteran really guys around him.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think you'd like to get Zach

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>back in there. I don't know, you know, I know

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>that people are gonna ask about it, kicking Zach to tackle,

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if that's something they would consider.

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I think if they go through the valuation. They feel

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>good about mcgovernment guard. Maybe it's something you consider because

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Zach can play anywhere and can really help

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>steal off one of those edge spots. Now, that's an

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting conversation whenever you talk about the depth, and we've

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>talked about switched up the offensive line, but Connor McGovern

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>never really was in that conversation. We never really knew

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>what he brought to the table. We didn't know what

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of stability he brought. And at least at the moment,

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>he's the third highest graded pass protector on the Cowboys

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>this season seventy six point eight. According to Pro Football Focus.

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:31.959
<v Speaker 1>He's thirty fifth of seventy seven guards in the NFL,

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>which is not too bad compared to especially what you're

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing with guys like guys like a Terrence Steele, who's

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>sixty seventh of seventy three tackles at the moment on

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus. So you've got some stability, it seems

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>like with Connor McGovern as a backup. So if he's

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in there and he's playing guard, and then you also

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>get Joe Looney back, why not throw Zack Martin out

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the tackle and allow him to maybe try and sure

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>up that right side a little bit more at least

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>than we've seen from Terrence Steel so far this season.

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>So as always, it's un of fun answering the fans

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>on the fifty questions. We'll bring that back, of course

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>next week, and then i'll say it with your Chess

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<v Speaker 1>Friday coming up this week whenever we preview the Philadelphia

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Eagles and these Dallas Cowboys. When we come back, where

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is the blame in terms of the rostered instability following

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the starters? Will address that when we return here on

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>for the Dallas Cowboys. Back in the day. I was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who always got the tough yards and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I run with John Deer today. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a John Dear three zero twenty five E tractor

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<v Speaker 1>that can handle any yard work I need to do,

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>even the tough yards way out back. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to memorize that read actually, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>eye goggles with Isaiah at the same time they essler

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<v Speaker 1>Lenz goggles while we got a shot. So, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>just got through some fans on the fifty questions. But

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I've got a fans on the fifty question as a

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys fan myself talking to three experts. Whenever it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to this franchise, in this organization top to bottom. Where

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>do you put the blame in terms of this football

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>team not having any depth? And we mentioned it earlier

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.240
<v Speaker 1>with training camp and where this team was built for depth,

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>which on paper it absolutely was. You looked at it

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>whenever it came to the corner spot. You had a

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis, you had an Anthony Brown, but you also

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>had a Trayvon Diggs, and a Cheetah Awoozier and a

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Darrel Warley at the time. We had hahak Linton Dicks

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>at one point. I mean, we had guys that were

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 1>veterans that had seemingly had to added depth. We had

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Donetary Poe upfront, and of course Jerald McCoy got hurt.

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even mentioning Jerald McCoy, but there are so

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>many of these layers that it seemed like, on paper

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna work out, but they didn't. Is it time

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to start, not necessarily even just pointing it at the players. Absolutely,

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it's on the players. We've already mentioned that, We've addressed

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that plenty. But as if a chance that we look

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>at a personnel evaluation problem when it comes to this franchise,

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Rob Well I mean, I don't think there's any question

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that some of the moves they've made defensively adding veterans,

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it just hasn't It hasn't panned out. I mean, I

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>think Isaiah spoke to it. On paper, it looks great.

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're adding guys now that they're in their

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>thirties or late twenties that they've added on the defensive

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>side of the ball that you know, have a lot

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of accomplishments, but it hasn't translated to the field. So

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know really where it falls other than I

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>would say with the depth they have depth. What they

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have, what they haven't shown to have defensively from

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the starting lineup through the depth are playmakers, Guys that

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>can make impact plays that that can change the course

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>of a game. And we talked about takeaways earlier. They

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>don't they haven't shown that this year. Now they have

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 1>guys that can do that. They have a tank, Lawrence

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Alden Smith, guys like that. But top to bottom, I've

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the speed on defense and some of the playmaking too,

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 1>it just hasn't been there. So to me, it's it's

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>more about that than depth. You know, a lot of

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>teams when you don't have your starter, it's gonna affect you.

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>But in your in your starting lineup, can you have

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.439
<v Speaker 1>guys that can that can wreck game plans? And they

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you know they haven't. They haven't had that so far

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>at all this season. Yeah, well it's you're asking me

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to play uh Jerry Jones, like Isaiah Sarah said earlier.

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>And for me, it's the difference of crying in the

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Ford escort or may back. You know, it's it's it's

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>what do you do? What do you do with this team?

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>When you look at what you put together and thinking

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that these guys had some jews left, we celebrated done

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to every poe. We looked at the film. We thought

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that all of those things were gonna be there. The

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.280
<v Speaker 1>same with Everson Griffin. We almost threw him on parade

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>when he got here, and we have gotten the production

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. Look, no matter how you look at it,

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone could have projected the worst pandemic ever.

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Guy's not being able to be in OTA's training camps,

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>all of that, and right now, all of that sounds

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>like an excuse, but it's true. This team hasn't had

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to gel and it doesn't matter even with

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 1>seven games. The coaching techniques, all of those things have

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>not taken. These guys are not getting it. And you

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>just have to go no further than the Kyle Island

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>run away on the third and nine the second quarter

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to five minutes and forty five seconds, and it just shows, man,

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the defense is just out of sorts. Guys are playing

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:50.399
<v Speaker 1>out of position, and we just look horrible in those

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>in those circumstances, in situations, but as far as the

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>way that this team was put together, I think you know,

0:40:57.800 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you were built to win and all of the problem

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>instictis thought that the Cowboys had an opportunity to go

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>far uh in the playoffs, but after all the injuries

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and all of that, it's just you know, obviously you

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>can hindsight is twenty twenty and you can look at

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>it now and say it didn't work out the way

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>they had planned it. Actually bringing out the big words manosticators.

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I got my sat words on the

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>day player. Uh No, I mean I think we've already

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>touched on it, right. I mean, these guys look good

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>on paper. I feel bad for them, if you know,

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 1>for Jerry and Will and the rest of the scouting

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>department who seemingly did a great job assembling this team.

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>But I go back to some of the things that

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I continue to reference, and I know it might be

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.760
<v Speaker 1>hard for people to grasp, but as a former player,

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>culture matters, right, Culture really matters, And there's that's it's

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the reason why you take certain players flourish in some

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>systems and certain players don't. Right, It's because of the

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>culture of the organization. Um. And you see that. You

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>know when you when you look at teams like Baltimore

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and some of the move they make, they're like, oh, shoot,

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 1>when that player gets there, they're gonna ball out. Why

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>do you say that? Why do you say those things

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>about certain players? Because you know, if you take a talent,

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>if you tak your talent and you put them in

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>that environment and that culture, they're gonna flourish. Right. So

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the Dallas Cowboys, we have all

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>these guys who look great on paper, they have they've

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 1>had successful careers. We put in all these veterans. We

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>have guys that we've we've been here since they're since

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of their career that are established players but again,

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>what's the culture here? Yeah? Right? What is the culture? Or? Dude,

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>when you play the Cowboys, are you gonna our guys

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna play you know, from in front of whistle to whistle?

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Are are they gonna? Are they gonna drag you into

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the ground? Right? Are are they gonna score? NonStop? Are

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>they gonna? Are they gonna? Are you gonna walk out

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the game? You know, limp in and cut up and bruise?

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>What is the definition? What's the culture of this team?

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that they have one right now,

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and until they do, you really can't have any real

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>expectations from these players, even regardless of their track records. Okay,

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>well where does it start? Where do you start that culture?

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Because we've talked about it already, and people are trying

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to fire the coach, You're trying to fire the GM

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>when they're trying or I guess you can't fire them,

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to fire the defensive coordinators. What I'm meant to say,

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to fire all these different people. Yeah, and

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's gonna work. Yeah, But the way

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of establishing culture is by continuity, right or is it

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>more than that? It's more than that, and I think

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the culture has to come from the coach, right, culture

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>has to come from the coach. And I'm not sure

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.919
<v Speaker 1>as good as coach McCarthy is, as good as his

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>history has shows, I don't think that he's come in

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and established a culture. I don't think that we've seen

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>him come in and demand anything obviously forward facing, right,

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not in the meeting room, but it doesn't appear

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>as if anything forward facing, like he has any strong personality.

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like he's demanding anything. It seems like

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>he's more so, it appears if he's a more of

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>in a waiting game and hoping for one of his

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:49.720
<v Speaker 1>veterans to step up and kind of establish it instead

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of him doing so himself. When you look around the league,

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you can see based upon the personality of the coaches.

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>You take up Pittsburgh, look at their coach. You know

0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:59.320
<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna bring. They're gonna be fired and desire

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>all day long. You go to Baltimore Hardball, you know

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 1>what he's gonna do, right, you know what the energy

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>of that team is, Coach Carroll. He's gonna be over

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>there dancing in high five and then that's the and

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>those guys are reflection of their coach, right. Unfortunately, the

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys they were in the history in the past years,

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they've been a reflection of their coach. Right. In terms

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 1>of Jason Garrett, right, he just not a he's not

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>He's a clap your hands type of guy. It's gonna

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>be okay, we're gonna be all right, guys, we're in

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a good situation. No, no, we're not. No, we're not

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>in a good situation. So now, obviously we have McCarthy

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>stepping to the fold. And we know that he's a

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>good coach. We know he's knowledgeable, we know he has

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he's he's coached great players in the past. But what

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>is his culture? We don't know. You guys have anything

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to add on to that. I think I said is

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>exactly right. It's got yeah, it starts, it starts with

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the coach. I think his culture is, like I reference

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>his background earlier, I think he's kind of a you know,

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>blue collar, gritty guy in terms of that's the culture

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 1>he wants to set. He wants to and a team

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that values the football, which they haven't accomplished that. And

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know it sounds like an excuse,

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>but I just when you don't get to be with

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>your players in person until mid August early August, I

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you can set a culture this quickly.

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And it may take a hard look at the roster

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the season and saying, Okay, does

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.240
<v Speaker 1>this player fit in my culture? Does he not, and

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and try to reshape it that way. We'll see, but

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's a challenge for a

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>coach to do that, especially, like Isaiah said, if it's

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>got to be a one eighties shifting culture or approach

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to the way you coach players or what you demand

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>of players then in the past. So it's just a

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>weird year. No, absolutely on the same page with what

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>these guys just said, And it's hard to establish that

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>no matter what, Mike McCarthy came in with an ideal

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>that this season was going to be, he probably did

0:45:58.320 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>not have in the back of his head trying to

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>get to know as players on zoom meetings and again,

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:06.800
<v Speaker 1>all of these things sound like excuses, but the evaluation

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<v Speaker 1>process for Mike McCarthy has to start right now, all

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<v Speaker 1>the way through the building. And I'm talking about everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, Isaiah, the one thing that you alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to or we're talking about the Pittsburghs the Baltimores, is

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<v Speaker 1>that those are football franchises that it permeates through the

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<v Speaker 1>building and nobody gets down after a loss. They know that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get out there and get them again. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gloom and doom. And so I appreciate you saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think that's a bigger challenge for coach

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy. It's just making sure that not only the

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<v Speaker 1>culture being set with the team, but through the organization

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<v Speaker 1>so that once this culture or whatever this is what

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<v Speaker 1>these anonymous sources, all of that stuff, that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>allow those things to get in the building and wreck

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:55.879
<v Speaker 1>your team. Gota's that would never happen on a Bill

0:46:55.920 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Belichick thing. That stuff just doesn't that doesn't exist. There

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<v Speaker 1>are no anonymous sources in New England. That does not happen. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but but even I know we got get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to get off the air. But even talking in

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<v Speaker 1>reference to New England, right, my time in New England,

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<v Speaker 1>from day one, from the time I showed up and

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<v Speaker 1>I had my first workout in New England. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the season, right. We were lifting weights

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<v Speaker 1>as if it was the off season, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>knew from that day these guys are lifting heavy, right heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was. It was a direct reflection

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<v Speaker 1>of coach, I don't give a dog on what time

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<v Speaker 1>of the year it is. There is no off season, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going full throttle all the time. I'm gonna drag

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<v Speaker 1>you all the way through. We're gonna we're gonna bust

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>your butt in the weight room, we're gonna bust your button. Meetings,

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna bust your button and walk throughs, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out there. We're gonna dog these guys and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're guess what, it's onto the next opponent. Right,

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>don't don't don't feel yourself, don't patch yourself on the back.

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>You show up to work, you grind, and we go

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>to work and we handle our business and then we

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<v Speaker 1>go on to the next opponent. And that was that again,

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<v Speaker 1>that went through the whole facility. Yeah, you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>You do your job, You get through and and find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to move on. Put the last game in

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the rearview mirror and get to the next opponent, which

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what we're gonna do starting right now. We've

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of sulking, we've had the frustration, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had the anger over the last forty eight hours following

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:10.959
<v Speaker 1>the twenty five to three loss. I'm not even gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mention it again. We're going we're gonna moving forward now

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<v Speaker 1>here on Talking Cowboys. So tomorrow we start looking at one,

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<v Speaker 1>how we get better on the field, x's and oh's,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about how to beat Philadelphia. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Philly offense versus this Cowboys defense, which arguably might

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>be the key to this football game. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that tomorrow. Then we've got Cowboys offense versus Philly

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<v Speaker 1>defense on Thursday, and then of course say it with

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<v Speaker 1>Chess Friday coming up as well. That's gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>today for us. Here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios,

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<v Speaker 1>for Chris Beam in the back, for Isaiah Stanback, Rob Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Great Heck Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so

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<v Speaker 1>long from the Star in Frisco. We'll see you next time.

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