Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown ambition.
Speaker 1: I wish I could really just see, like how the
Speaker 1: moves did I bring to the table, because I feel
Speaker 1: like it's not fully appreciated without my moves.
Speaker 2: I'm envisioning them. I've seen them. You're a very good dancer.
Speaker 2: I actually when I picture you is wrapped up in
Speaker 2: a comforter in your bed telling Superman to stop walking
Speaker 2: in during our podcast recording.
Speaker 1: I'm like every time, and I just can't believe our
Speaker 1: door creaks here too. I'm like, I thought we outgrew
Speaker 1: the creaking door. No other door in the house creaks.
Speaker 1: It's like they know that we do a podcast here.
Speaker 1: It's like just a little creek.
Speaker 2: How are you, mandra I can't complain. I can't complain,
Speaker 2: long day at work, but I am so excited about
Speaker 2: this weekend. I think we both have fun weekends coming
Speaker 2: up here. You're turning feisty forty.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: We're both missing epic milestones in one another's lives.
Speaker 1: I know it makes me sad you're having the baby
Speaker 1: shower and.
Speaker 2: The baby shower, but I'm also I feel like in
Speaker 2: our alternate universes from each other. It's it's fun that
Speaker 2: we're both having these really exciting major yeah, yeah, major weekends.
Speaker 1: Major Yes. How many people are you expecting?
Speaker 2: I don't know. My sister and my mom have actually
Speaker 2: done a pretty good job managing everything, so probably between
Speaker 2: like forty and fifty. But we're doing, Like did I
Speaker 2: tell you we're doing a party?
Speaker 1: Party?
Speaker 2: We're not doing because listen, I love all my friends.
Speaker 2: They're beautiful, they have had beautiful children. I love all
Speaker 2: their children. But I have been to so many boring
Speaker 2: baby showers I and I can't. I don't even like
Speaker 2: people watching me open Christmas gifts, like to sit there
Speaker 2: in the middle of a room at noon with like
Speaker 2: little sandwiches ammosas and open gifts in front of people
Speaker 2: and pretend like the fifteenth onesie is just cuter than
Speaker 2: the you know, the twentieth onesie. Like, I cannot do that.
Speaker 2: So I told my mom because you know, my husban's
Speaker 2: family's Dominican, and I've been to a couple of Dominican
Speaker 2: baby showers. They are lit lit, so they start in
Speaker 2: the evening, they go all night, and I was like,
Speaker 2: let me embrace my Dominican side, my new Dominican family
Speaker 2: and let's just have a party. So we are having
Speaker 2: the party in Inwood in his family's backyard, not their
Speaker 2: literal backyard, their neighborhood, in the neighborhood at a restaurant.
Speaker 2: And it should be really fun, open bar. I think
Speaker 2: there might be a DJ. I don't know. I've been
Speaker 2: snooping a little bit, but it should be really really fun,
Speaker 2: should be a party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds awesome and to see and that's why, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we're having the party because it's my forties,
Speaker 1: so we're back to get down with the giddwn So yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be a good time. We're expecting about forty
Speaker 1: to fifty people as well, so I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you guys, you know, want the after party,
Speaker 2: come to Inwood hop over the river and just come
Speaker 2: onto the baby shower after party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be a right. I feel like no
Speaker 1: one's going to leave the house, you know.
Speaker 2: No, those are my favorite, especially when it's your house
Speaker 2: and you don't have to leave, like even to go home.
Speaker 2: That's the best party.
Speaker 1: No, So I you know, honestly, I don't mind the
Speaker 1: one in my house either because it means that like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. I mean, yes, there's
Speaker 1: clean up, but there's no driving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we could fit forty people in my house,
Speaker 2: I would one hundred percent be having the party there.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent no, But I'm all. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: when you get past your thirties and for did I
Speaker 2: just burp? Did you hear that it was the baby?
Speaker 2: I can't cantrol it. My organs are shifting anyway, when
Speaker 2: you get past this, like your thirties and forties, like
Speaker 2: these are like you need to celebrate these big moments,
Speaker 2: you know, milestone birthdays and baby showers. Like any time
Speaker 2: I can have a party, I'm like, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Because everyone's got such busy schedules and I and it's
Speaker 2: harder and harder to get together with the people that
Speaker 2: I love, and I will have I will take any
Speaker 2: excuse to plan a big party. So I'm so looking
Speaker 2: forward to it. I see my mom like twice a year,
Speaker 2: so she's coming into town and it should be should
Speaker 2: be fun.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's my birthday, like my official birthday, so by the
Speaker 1: time this comes out, it'll be today, So I expect
Speaker 1: a lot of ads at the budget LISTA happy birthday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want I want you guys to burn through my battery.
Speaker 1: That's just my little request. I want me tag zing
Speaker 1: zing zing happy birthday, have a birthday like I love
Speaker 1: when they folks take like the litse little mini recordings
Speaker 1: and then they play it back and they're like listening
Speaker 1: to Brown Ambition and they tag us. So just make
Speaker 1: sure you do like a happy birthday, tax so I
Speaker 1: can be like, look, how many people? First of all, Mandy,
Speaker 1: eighty people apply to be my admin. I don't even
Speaker 1: know that many of y'all listen eight now amazing.
Speaker 2: That's not even including the people that I haven't sent
Speaker 2: you who have gone to Instagram to ask about the job.
Speaker 2: And I was like, didn't follow instructions, so.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I was like wow. Like my CEO
Speaker 1: was like, what did you say? I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: So we shall see. We're still kind of like wading through.
Speaker 2: Isn't it funny that you talked about that epic trip
Speaker 2: that you take your team on every year and you
Speaker 2: got all those applications. It's so crazy why anyone want
Speaker 2: to work for you when you're doing free trips to
Speaker 2: where'd you go? Arizona and Spas and shit, I want
Speaker 2: to work for you.
Speaker 1: Honestly, that is kind of crazy. But you're right though,
Speaker 1: because I definitely there were people who are like saw
Speaker 1: the trip, would love to work for you. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: in what capacity exists? You have sent me nothing other
Speaker 1: than can you take me on a trip? Which is crazy,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, what are your skills? But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think we're finally winding down with the house.
Speaker 1: We I think I brought my last pillow, you know how,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I tell myself all the time, like
Speaker 1: this is the second time I've had like a big move,
Speaker 1: and I told myself last time, Tippy, you don't need
Speaker 1: to get everything right now, and then you start to
Speaker 1: rush to get everything right now. And I guess because
Speaker 1: I'm having a party slash house for me, I want
Speaker 1: everything to be perfect. So we're just winding out. Thanks
Speaker 1: shout out to Rihanna of remain Home. She's been amazing
Speaker 1: to help me, like get the design, the core sattles,
Speaker 1: and so there's just a few curtains to be hung
Speaker 1: up and we are ready to party.
Speaker 2: I want to see it. I have been asking for months,
Speaker 2: even holding out on us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's now like like the house is complete, I
Speaker 1: mean outside from like you know, some curtains and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But I left Verizon today for the second time,
Speaker 1: and we're back with Optimum, so I can actually use
Speaker 1: my internet. Sorry rise in no shade, but shird. So
Speaker 1: I feel so happy in this house. It feels like
Speaker 1: a home, it feels pretty, it feels like just it
Speaker 1: feels good.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. You rank Yeah, well, we would be remiss.
Speaker 2: I had needed to share. I need to share this
Speaker 2: headline because we talk a lot about emergency savings and
Speaker 2: people get so caught up on the rules of thumb,
Speaker 2: like I need to have six months saved. I just
Speaker 2: had a meeting with my financial planner last week, and
Speaker 2: the numbers she gave me for what I need to
Speaker 2: have saved, I was like, booh, hanging up on you. No,
Speaker 2: but the number gets bigger once you have like a kid,
Speaker 2: or you have you know, like a house and that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But and I think when the numbers
Speaker 2: are so huge and you don't break it down or
Speaker 2: even like look at word, like, some people just get
Speaker 2: hung up on the big numbers. If they take their income,
Speaker 2: you know, for six months, and they're like I can
Speaker 2: never save you know, ten thousand, fifteen thousand, however much
Speaker 2: it is. But this recent study came out, they actually
Speaker 2: surveyed like hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of family household
Speaker 2: incomes and determine that really, people who have two thousand,
Speaker 2: this is the exact number, two thousand, four hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty seven dollars stored away, the probability of experiencing financial
Speaker 2: hardship in the next six months is super low. And
Speaker 2: saving every dollar saved over that doesn't really seem to
Speaker 2: help reduce that probability very much. And I like this because,
Speaker 2: you know, two thousand bucks. Yeah, it's a lot of money,
Speaker 2: but it's attainable. And it kind of illustrates the point
Speaker 2: we're always saying, like most people are are not They're
Speaker 2: not dumb, they're not financially you know, they're not getting
Speaker 2: into credit card debt because they're stupid or they're reckless.
Speaker 2: They just don't have that cushion. And it starts with
Speaker 2: that five hundred dollars car repair, or it starts with
Speaker 2: that thousand dollars deductible at your health you know, you're
Speaker 2: the hospital that you weren't expecting and because you don't
Speaker 2: have that in the bank, you end up in that
Speaker 2: debt cycle and it just snowballs and snowballs. And so
Speaker 2: for me, twenty four hundred dollars, it's just kind of
Speaker 2: it's a small, attainable, smallish attainable goal. And sure, it's
Speaker 2: nice if you can save you know, six months worths
Speaker 2: of income whatever that means for you, or even twelve
Speaker 2: months or whatever. But by making that goal a lot smaller,
Speaker 2: it just seems like, Okay, I can wrap my head
Speaker 2: around this, I can save this much money, and you
Speaker 2: can start somewhere.
Speaker 1: No, that's fine. And then so who did that study? Again?
Speaker 2: It was a federal what is it called, the Federal
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank of Saint Louis, in conjunction with this professor
Speaker 2: at some university that I cannot find right now, but
Speaker 2: I'll post a link. I read this story in market
Speaker 2: Watch today, Oh, University of Colorado and an economist at
Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve Bank of Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that because I'm like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: good to know because if that seems very daunting, like
Speaker 1: I've got to say, fifty thousand dollars or twenty thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: like I'm just never going to get there, so to
Speaker 1: say something like that seems just so much more reasonable.
Speaker 1: And you always think to yourself, like, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: where these rules of thumb come from? First of all,
Speaker 1: where did the rule of thumb? What's the thumb? And
Speaker 1: the rule of thumb? Like why do we even say that?
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I feel like we're all just regurgitating
Speaker 1: the same thing because someone said it, and very few
Speaker 1: people stop and say, well, why is that really true?
Speaker 2: So I like that picture with like a a Bereton
Speaker 2: in a coffee shop with the latte, like, what is
Speaker 2: the thumb? And why does it have the rule? Fair question?
Speaker 2: Fair question? Obviously, you know, the elephant in the room
Speaker 2: and kind of the cloud that's been hanging over I
Speaker 2: don't know. All the news this week has beene what
Speaker 2: happened to the woman in Fort Worth who was killed
Speaker 2: minding her business playing video games with her son in
Speaker 2: her house? Tatiana Jefferson, Oh, her nephew, her nephew. Sorry,
Speaker 2: So she was killed by a police officer. And I honestly,
Speaker 2: when I read the first inotionial report, you know, you
Speaker 2: wait for more information, but there it was shocking to
Speaker 2: me how careless and senseless this death was. And it
Speaker 2: just to happen so closely to the man who was
Speaker 2: killed inside his own damn apartment by the cop who
Speaker 2: barged in thinking it was her apartment. So in this case,
Speaker 2: of course, immediately there were protests. But today it came
Speaker 2: out earth was it last night? I forget last night?
Speaker 2: Or today it came out that the officer who shot
Speaker 2: this woman, a Tatiana was actually charged with murder.
Speaker 1: Good which I heard that he was, that he was
Speaker 1: he Well, that's what it seems like he was. He
Speaker 1: resigned before he before being fired.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how you could live after.
Speaker 2: I mean, how could you live with yourself. You'd have
Speaker 2: to be a sociopath to have done something like that
Speaker 2: and to not feel just crushed. I mean, his life
Speaker 2: will be forever changed, as it should be.
Speaker 1: But like, who just shoots through a window, Like, I
Speaker 1: just don't.
Speaker 2: Really poorly trained police officer? I read that, Yeah, he
Speaker 2: was new, like he had just graduated a year before
Speaker 2: from the police academy.
Speaker 1: You're just shooting through a window like literally it could
Speaker 1: have been a kid who's just standing up, or or
Speaker 1: it just could have been It could have been a
Speaker 1: ground like I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just yeah, So what's the advice? Just if
Speaker 2: you're black in America and don't want to get shot, you.
Speaker 1: Can't even stay home. It's crazy, like he can't even
Speaker 1: stay home. Honestly, here's my advice for folks. Stop calling
Speaker 1: the police off black people.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know who the neighbor who called the police.
Speaker 2: It sounded in one report it sounded like he was
Speaker 2: potentially like a homeless person. And I don't know what
Speaker 2: his race is or anything like that. I don't think
Speaker 2: any I haven't read an article that identifies him, but
Speaker 2: it seemed like, I mean, he didn't call nine one one.
Speaker 2: He just called like the general hotline saying, Hey, I
Speaker 2: passed by this house. I noticed her. Maybe he like,
Speaker 2: I think he might have known her and her nephew
Speaker 2: and was concerned and thought he would call the cops
Speaker 2: for help. And I mean he must be devastated because
Speaker 2: without that phone call, she could very well still be alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this police officer honestly was likely going to
Speaker 1: because if you react this way, he was going to
Speaker 1: react this way.
Speaker 2: Again, No, that's that's true, And who the hell is
Speaker 2: training these officers, Like that's really yes, of course this
Speaker 2: person holds responsibility, but who are we try, Like, who's
Speaker 2: training these people on how to do these types of
Speaker 2: how to answer these types of calls. I would like
Speaker 2: to believe that a neighbor looking out for my house
Speaker 2: and see something suspicious calling the cops, that it would
Speaker 2: end okay, that they would be a wellness check or
Speaker 2: a welfare check or whatever, and that cops would be
Speaker 2: able to execute those properly. But clearly in Fort Worth
Speaker 2: they are not training their people properly, And I feel
Speaker 2: like this needs to go beyond just the officer getting fired,
Speaker 2: but like turn upside down the entire system that put
Speaker 2: him in that position in the first place. This news
Speaker 2: is always really hard, and I think because it came
Speaker 2: so closely after the death of that man, or the
Speaker 2: trial and the verdict of the policewoman who was sentenced
Speaker 2: to ten years for murdering the man in his apartment,
Speaker 2: just so back to back. I mean, it's just I
Speaker 2: don't know, I read the news, I have my feelings
Speaker 2: about it, but as far as like what can we
Speaker 2: do now, that's the part I always kind of struggle with.
Speaker 2: But I do think talking about it. We're ready. So
Speaker 2: it's been a few days when we're ready to finally
Speaker 2: talk about it, you know, acknowledge that it happened, acknowledge
Speaker 2: their names. That's at least a step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's just wow.
Speaker 2: Well instead of instead of jumping into questions, you know,
Speaker 2: because I just kind of we ended buzzworthy on it
Speaker 2: on the somber note, why don't we have a bit
Speaker 2: of a pick me up? And I have a perfect
Speaker 2: way to pick us up real quick. So last week
Speaker 2: on our show, we talked about our wildest dreams. I'm
Speaker 2: still sweaty thinking about my wildest dream and like it's it's,
Speaker 2: you know, putting yourself out there saying what you want
Speaker 2: to do with your life or your your wildest dream
Speaker 2: And we asked you guys to share with us your
Speaker 2: wildest dreams. And you know, if if you had no limitations,
Speaker 2: what would you do? And we got dozens of messages
Speaker 2: on Instagram, We got a couple of emails, and I
Speaker 2: thought I could go through real quick and share some
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I love that. Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2: That's okay with you? Okay, So here we go. First,
Speaker 2: one comes from Instagram fan Air Vegan. She says, my
Speaker 2: dream is to no longer work in sales, but work
Speaker 2: for myself and grow a business that gets me out
Speaker 2: of debt and helps grow other businesses.
Speaker 1: Love that, Yes, that is awesome.
Speaker 2: Next one comes from at Neela Mack. Her dream is
Speaker 2: to retire in ten years and she looks pretty young.
Speaker 2: So listen, if you get there, write a book and
Speaker 2: I'll buy it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Okay, okay, keep in comment, and.
Speaker 2: Mela Max says, by the way, Mandy, you're awesome. I
Speaker 2: can't wait to see your play. Oh, sweaty, sweaty okay.
Speaker 2: Next one comes from Instagram user butters one fifty eight.
Speaker 2: My hashtag my wildest dream. I would love to own
Speaker 2: my own professional soccer team in Europe and make them
Speaker 2: a worldwide brand.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: That is making my dream look like nothing.
Speaker 1: No, and also I love how specific you are, which
Speaker 1: is always really good.
Speaker 2: Let's see on Instagram too. Christy Dno says, listening to
Speaker 2: the podcast this morning, and I can one hundred percent
Speaker 2: see Mandy writing a play. You know how much you
Speaker 2: love Broadway. Please use your maternity leave to get it going. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: It is because you know this is going to be
Speaker 1: a baby involved during maternity lead.
Speaker 2: But like they sleep sometimes, right, I could write a play.
Speaker 1: Well, you never know, honestly. I've heard some moms say,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, girl twenty four hours, and some moms
Speaker 1: say there's a lot of downtime. So you just never
Speaker 1: know how it's going to go.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. All right, Let's take one from email.
Speaker 2: So this is from a listener named Joy who emailed
Speaker 2: us and says she's twenty three, a single mom of
Speaker 2: a five year old girl who has severe cerebral palsy
Speaker 2: and epilepsy. Her daughter's nonverbal, wheelchair bound, has a feeding tube,
Speaker 2: and she honestly had to step up and learned at
Speaker 2: twenty three years old how to take care of a
Speaker 2: daughter with special needs, didn't find any really good resources,
Speaker 2: got a ton of misinformation, and says that her biggest, craziest,
Speaker 2: wildest dream is to be a life coach or even
Speaker 2: start a boot camp for parents who have no idea
Speaker 2: what they're doing but have no other choice but to learn.
Speaker 1: Ah, honestly would be amazing, especially if you honed in
Speaker 1: on parents new parents with special needs children. I don't
Speaker 1: think you really like I literally have never heard of
Speaker 1: like some sort of you know, like resource or tool.
Speaker 1: I just think that parents, you know, parents who just
Speaker 1: find out their kids are on the spectrum for autism,
Speaker 1: parents whose children you know, might have down syndrome, parents
Speaker 1: who I think that parenting to a special needs child
Speaker 1: takes another layer of love that I think most people
Speaker 1: can never even imagine. And I think if you started
Speaker 1: it could be just starting as simple as a Facebook
Speaker 1: group and started from there, you'd be surprised. I say,
Speaker 1: go for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a thousand percent. I mean one of the one
Speaker 2: of the commonalities with successful businesses is that you have
Speaker 2: a problem yourself that is a pain point for you,
Speaker 2: and you help solve that pain point for other people.
Speaker 2: But honestly, even if you just give advice to one
Speaker 2: person who's gone through what you went through, that is
Speaker 2: just a huge contribution and of itself. So that's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Joy, Thank you guys for sharing your wildest dreams.
Speaker 2: Send me more messages. We can read some on you know,
Speaker 2: I won't read them all, but we can on Today
Speaker 2: Show anyway, but we can read them next week and
Speaker 2: the week after that, hit us up at Brand Ambition
Speaker 2: Podcast on Instagram, email us at Brand Ambition Podcast at
Speaker 2: gmail dot com, or you can tweet us at the
Speaker 2: BA podcast on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Now it's time for questions.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Hmm, so many good questions week. Honestly,
Speaker 2: you guys were on fire. I loves it. We're gonna
Speaker 2: save some. But let's take a question from the gram
Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh, this one's good. Okay, let's leave her anonymous.
Speaker 2: She says, Hey, Mandy and Tiffany, I'm searching for a
Speaker 2: new job and many of the posts ask about my
Speaker 2: salary expectation. I want to make more than I make
Speaker 2: in my current position. So should I ask for ten
Speaker 2: percent more across the board? Or is there a website
Speaker 2: I should use to determine the salary range for each
Speaker 2: position that I'm applying for. Thank you, and I love
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: Feel like this is your thing? Mandy. What do you say?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the idea. So it sounds like
Speaker 2: she's gonna be searching for jobs that are not all
Speaker 2: the same. So I do think it's smart for you
Speaker 2: to check out some sites like payscale dot com or
Speaker 2: glassdoor dot com and be location specific to whatever city
Speaker 2: you're applying for, because city does matter, and kind of
Speaker 2: get a sense of what salary ranges are. If you're
Speaker 2: working in a field right now that's not similar to
Speaker 2: what you're applying for, it's more difficult for you to judge.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't just slap ten percent on your
Speaker 2: current pay and say, Okay, I'm gonna be made a
Speaker 2: reasonable salary. You know what if the job that you're
Speaker 2: going into has a whole different salary range for the
Speaker 2: area that you're in. So it sounds like research is
Speaker 2: definitely good. Would I would not advise anyone to put
Speaker 2: their expected salary on an application.
Speaker 1: Skip it.
Speaker 2: They they should not make it mandatory. I don't think
Speaker 2: any application can make it mandatory to answer that question.
Speaker 2: Skip it, because you know what happens. You know, I've
Speaker 2: hired a lot of people. When you put that number down,
Speaker 2: it gives us a starting place, and we may have
Speaker 2: a big budget, and if you're at the bottom end
Speaker 2: of that budget, we'll start negotiating from there. Like if
Speaker 2: you say, I'm I expect sixty five and the role
Speaker 2: you know is seventy five to eighty five range, we
Speaker 2: might just say okay, sixty eight. You're excited, Yay, sixty eight.
Speaker 2: I got more than I asked for. But it's good
Speaker 2: for us because it's underneath our budget, under our budget,
Speaker 2: but bad for you. So I would I would put
Speaker 2: the ball as much as you can in the hiring
Speaker 2: manager or the hr REPS court, dance around it. If
Speaker 2: you can't skirt the issue, try and make them give
Speaker 2: you a number for what they think the expectation is
Speaker 2: for the salary for that role, what they think the
Speaker 2: role is worth, and see what they come back with.
Speaker 2: But don't give them the benefit of firing. I can't
Speaker 2: think of the right analogy. I don't know, shooting the
Speaker 2: first hoop, I'm bad at this today, whatever, making the
Speaker 2: first move. As far as naming a number.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that that's good advice on this
Speaker 1: because you just never know. I think even what i'm
Speaker 1: negotiating with, like people who want a sponsor or whatever
Speaker 1: something that I'm doing, I try to put the ball
Speaker 1: on their court to see like kind of like what
Speaker 1: number they give, and then then I push up from
Speaker 1: there because you'd be surprised. There's been times when I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: what how much? I was gonna say half.
Speaker 2: That, but okay, you know so, no exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good advice.
Speaker 2: And I've seen too many people take the first offer
Speaker 2: too quickly, too quickly. I mean good again, good for us.
Speaker 2: I'm like playing two roles here. I love as a
Speaker 2: high are your manager. You want it to be an
Speaker 2: easy negotiation because it makes things move faster. There's less paperwork,
Speaker 2: there's less back and forth, you don't have to get
Speaker 2: special approvals. But at the same time, I will never
Speaker 2: not negotiate myself, knowing what I know now being on
Speaker 2: this side of things, and I wish I could reach
Speaker 2: across the table to people, although I want in my position,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that if I were the one hiring
Speaker 2: and just say, please ask for more, just ask.
Speaker 1: For more, just do it.
Speaker 2: Make me work for it, make me work for it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: But excellent question, and good luck with the job search.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a good times the job search too.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't you say it's a good market. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, like, because I know I'm hiring and we're
Speaker 1: always hired for something I feel like, But I feel like,
Speaker 1: is how is it out there in the general market,
Speaker 1: in the real world.
Speaker 2: What are you trying to say with the with the
Speaker 2: commonas no, well, definitely, I mean, unemployment is still at
Speaker 2: record lows. But what's happening is you know, you know
Speaker 2: all that talk a couple of months ago was it
Speaker 2: of like the next recession. It feels like every two
Speaker 2: months as someone's like, this is it, guys, the recession's coming.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: The reason that talk of one of the biggest reasons
Speaker 2: we were starting to have that fear crop up this
Speaker 2: past summer was because in a lot of public company reports,
Speaker 2: you know, they have to come out every quarter and
Speaker 2: say here's how we're doing, here's where we spent our money,
Speaker 2: here's how much debt we have, et cetera. The message
Speaker 2: that we were getting from a lot of big companies
Speaker 2: was they were pulling back their investment in labor, which
Speaker 2: means they're pulling back new hires. You know, they see
Speaker 2: that they've been on like something of a hiring spree
Speaker 2: for the past year whatever, the past few years, and
Speaker 2: they're like, Okay, we're going to scale things back, and
Speaker 2: now is a signal that the labor market could be softening,
Speaker 2: that there aren't that many there won't be that there
Speaker 2: won't be that much investment in people in the future,
Speaker 2: and that kind of cost them of the worry. That
Speaker 2: being said, though, there's still tons of jobs out there,
Speaker 2: Like there's some industries that are begging for people to
Speaker 2: apply because they can't find and I know, as it's
Speaker 2: anytime someone quits on my team, I'm just like, oh god,
Speaker 2: here it goes a two month process.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's it's hard because a lot of people have jobs
Speaker 2: and it takes more time and longer to find them
Speaker 2: and poach them. Yep, but it does happen shockingly when
Speaker 2: they are unemployed and they're just you know, out there
Speaker 2: waiting for you to pluck them up. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: still think it's a good market if you're employed, but
Speaker 2: just keep that in mind, Like companies are beginning to
Speaker 2: be a little bit more conservative, so you may not
Speaker 2: be getting you may not have quite as much leverage
Speaker 2: as you did, you know, even six months ago, a
Speaker 2: year ago when it comes to negotiating, if those companies
Speaker 2: are tightening up their purse strengths when it comes to
Speaker 2: the cost of labor.
Speaker 1: But it's always good to like, I mean, you're out
Speaker 1: there getting looking for a job, Mandy's giving you good advice.
Speaker 1: Try to walk in confidence. Be really clear to me.
Speaker 1: You should be clear about what your strengths are, because
Speaker 1: that's what I look for, Like, you know, like what
Speaker 1: do you feel your strengths are. I mean, we're all
Speaker 1: NERVERU storing an interview, but I'm looking to see if
Speaker 1: you know what your strengths are and like you're clear
Speaker 1: about what you can bring to the table, because yes,
Speaker 1: I know that there's something that I'm wanting, but I'm
Speaker 1: always looking for someone who's like, yes, I can do
Speaker 1: the one thing that you're hiring for, but do you
Speaker 1: know I also dot dot di And I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: I would honestly say most people that I've hired, they've
Speaker 1: come with this extra set of skills and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, And in my mind, I'm thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: we could tap into that later, although I need you
Speaker 1: for this one thing.
Speaker 2: No, exactly one hundred percent agree.
Speaker 1: Okay, more question.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take another career question. Also, this person
Speaker 2: hit hates on Atlanta, so we need to we need
Speaker 2: to have beef, all right. So Instagram user says, call
Speaker 2: me Nakia from Black Panther. Okay, got it, Nakia, I
Speaker 2: am seeking some career Advice. I'm twenty five years old
Speaker 2: and I live in Charlotte, North Carolina. Previously, I was
Speaker 2: a mortgage loan officer making almost six figures. However, I
Speaker 2: wanted to get out of mortgage sales, so I transition
Speaker 2: into commercial lending and now have an analytical role where
Speaker 2: I'm actually making less. The money isn't the issue though.
Speaker 2: With the new job, I had to relocate to atl
Speaker 2: which was originally supposed to be temporary, but now it's
Speaker 2: looking like it may be permanent. I really enjoy my job,
Speaker 2: but the thing is I hate Atlanta. Sorry, Mandy, It's okay.
Speaker 2: I mean Charlotte ain't that great, but whatever. My company
Speaker 2: is going through a merger and will now be offering
Speaker 2: a pension. If you were me, would you stick it
Speaker 2: out to get the pension in the city you hate,
Speaker 2: or would you accept an offer to go back into
Speaker 2: mortgage sales just to get back to Charlotte. For more context,
Speaker 2: I own a home in Charlotte. Plus my longtime boyfriend
Speaker 2: of three years is still in Charlotte. Uh, I feel
Speaker 2: like go to Charlotte. I'm going to say that, like,
Speaker 2: I mean, a pension's nice, but it has you need
Speaker 2: to like work there for a long time to qualify
Speaker 2: for it. Probably, you know, they could, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just seems like you have so much of a
Speaker 2: life in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also too, I mean this is I mean
Speaker 1: it's not common, but I definitely have heard of like
Speaker 1: cases where you know, a company has run out of money,
Speaker 1: so their pension has bank was bankrupt so they weren't
Speaker 1: able to pay out anymore. I would hate for you
Speaker 1: to wrap your whole life in choices around this pension
Speaker 1: when there's nothing that's guaranteed. And I just think you
Speaker 1: should just go for the life that you want now,
Speaker 1: not necessarily like hopefully somehow maybe especially since you can
Speaker 1: just kind of create your own pension by having a
Speaker 1: retirement account that you put money into. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, a pension it almost for it's
Speaker 2: so old school. I'm surprised or even adding a pension now,
Speaker 2: it's very surprising to me. But it also I think
Speaker 2: it creates a sense of, oh, I'm loyal to the company,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay here because I have this pension, and
Speaker 2: you're kind of and TIFFs right, you can create your
Speaker 2: own pension easily by investing your own and you're on
Speaker 2: You're only twenty five, so.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, girl, you do not want that pension by
Speaker 1: the time, it's usually like twenty five years, So you're
Speaker 1: gonna stay in Atlanta for twenty five years. So you
Speaker 1: could be like, I've got a pench No boom right,
Speaker 1: you got should boo your house, your life. You don't
Speaker 1: like Atlanta. So you're super young. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to like make choices, especially when you're really young. You know,
Speaker 1: now is the time to make choices that are really
Speaker 1: in alignment with how you want to live your life.
Speaker 1: As you get a little bit older and you have
Speaker 1: other responsibilities you have to take into account kids and
Speaker 1: maybe you know your your significant other as far as
Speaker 1: like marriage concerned and some other things. But when you're
Speaker 1: super young, you really have more flexibility to just be like,
Speaker 1: I just want to do it because that's what I
Speaker 1: feel like, like, take advantage of that, lean into that.
Speaker 2: And I would just congratulate you on doing what you
Speaker 2: should do in your twenties, which is making a career
Speaker 2: pivot because you have such like you don't have strings
Speaker 2: attached right now, you don't have a family that you're
Speaker 2: dragging around with you you have the opportunity to shift
Speaker 2: and pivot, try something different because you realize, oh, this
Speaker 2: first job that I have I'm not happy with. So
Speaker 2: you're really brave to take this new opportunity and try
Speaker 2: something different. And what if you learned you love your
Speaker 2: new job, you just don't love where you are. So
Speaker 2: let's pivot to a different location and see if you
Speaker 2: can get a job in Charlotte. I know you probably can.
Speaker 2: Like Charlotte's popping right now, there's the banking industry is
Speaker 2: huge in Charlotte. Actually, my company is based in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: There's so many financial institutions, Bank of America, allies in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: I mean, and they all got you know, I got
Speaker 2: my mortgage through Ally. I know they offer mortgages. So
Speaker 2: maybe there is a job waiting for you in Charlotte
Speaker 2: that now that you know what you love doing, you
Speaker 2: can get everything you know, or at least a few
Speaker 2: things that you want. Get your booth, an, get your house,
Speaker 2: and get the job that you're really happy with in
Speaker 2: the place where your happiest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go back to Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Go back to Charlotte.
Speaker 1: So those are great questions. Honestly, I love when you
Speaker 1: guys ask us questions about career, about your home, about finances. Honestly,
Speaker 1: me and Mandy love answering all of them, so keep
Speaker 1: them coming. And now it's time boys and girls, well
Speaker 1: mostly girls, for that part of our segment where it's
Speaker 1: time to boost to break. Maybe are you going to
Speaker 1: boost or are you going to break?
Speaker 2: There were so many personalities you just shifted through it.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I was trying to decide if I was gonna break
Speaker 1: out the song.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, you know what, No, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna You went with like game show hosts, Okay,
Speaker 2: I want to do a boost. I want to do
Speaker 2: a boost real quick. Well a boost and a break again.
Speaker 2: I just am so conflicted. So the boost is I
Speaker 2: discovered through my insurance plan because I was poking around
Speaker 2: the website for my insurance and looking really hard for
Speaker 2: like benefits for prenatal care or new parent care or
Speaker 2: anything like that, and I found out I could get
Speaker 2: a free two hundred dollars breast pump with a huge
Speaker 2: supply of bags, which I have heard from moms are
Speaker 2: very important. It's very important to have the bags. I
Speaker 2: don't know what they're for. I'm assuming to catch the
Speaker 2: receptacle for the milk. But whatever, I'm learning, I just
Speaker 2: save two hundred dollars by getting this from through my insurance.
Speaker 2: And that's true, right, And I literally just call the number.
Speaker 2: It was through CBS care Mark. I was like, hello,
Speaker 2: I heard I could get a free breast pump. They
Speaker 2: were like, yes, you can, ma'am right, and they shipped
Speaker 2: it to me in less than a week. And I
Speaker 2: I'm like, do more people like if you are a
Speaker 2: new parent or I don't know, if you just look
Speaker 2: at your insurance and see what freebies you have. I
Speaker 2: found out I can, I could. I could have gotten
Speaker 2: reimbursed for some of the prenatal yoga classes that I've done.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to get that, uh, get that, get
Speaker 2: those wheels into motion. And then I found out that
Speaker 2: I can. I was about to sign up for a
Speaker 2: breastfeeding and lactation class. I can get I can get
Speaker 2: that reimbursed if I if I use the right kind
Speaker 2: of consultant or whatever. Just like they don't send you
Speaker 2: a packet in the mail when you become pregnant with
Speaker 2: all this information. You have to really go digging for it.
Speaker 2: So the boost is for the freebies. The break is
Speaker 2: for they don't make it easy for you to find them.
Speaker 2: But as someone who has been paying for insurance for
Speaker 2: I don't know, over a decade now on my own
Speaker 2: and never like I never really use insurance, I don't
Speaker 2: really just stick that off and knock on wood. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't go to the doctor that much. I just
Speaker 2: pay because it's smart to have it. And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: finally I have reason to take advantage of full advantage
Speaker 2: of my benefits. And I'm just finding out that they
Speaker 2: don't always make it super easy for you to find that.
Speaker 2: But I encourage all of you guys to read that
Speaker 2: fine print and see what kind of.
Speaker 1: Freebies you could have super smart. I knew about the
Speaker 1: breast pumpt is because my sister, I think, got one
Speaker 1: because she found out. Yeah, she found out through a
Speaker 1: friend of hers, and I was like, oh, that's really good.
Speaker 1: But you're right. There are a ton of resources that
Speaker 1: you can get if you would only know and lean in. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's one of the things. I'm my best friend Linda.
Speaker 1: She is a social worker, and when I tell you,
Speaker 1: so many people reach out to her because you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they've been told one thing or another, like she's
Speaker 1: had so many people get the resources that they're entitled
Speaker 1: through their insurance, I mean everything from I knew a
Speaker 1: woman who had steps, but she had she's had really
Speaker 1: bad diabetes, so she was in a wheelchair and literally
Speaker 1: her neighbors every time she wanted to leave the house,
Speaker 1: her neighbors, who were young guys, would have to carry
Speaker 1: her down the steps for her to get to where
Speaker 1: she's going. She Linda was like, no, you get a ramp,
Speaker 1: got her a ramp, got her home, aid to take
Speaker 1: her food shopping, and got like some other resources that
Speaker 1: she was like, no, it comes along with your insurance,
Speaker 1: and so you just would be surprised. I wish And
Speaker 1: I told Helyn that one of the things I want
Speaker 1: to do is to like do some lives with her
Speaker 1: so she can share some of the things that you
Speaker 1: might qualify for that you don't even know because people
Speaker 1: don't know to ask. And because she's, like I said,
Speaker 1: a social worker and she's worked in that environment for
Speaker 1: so long, she knows how to advocate on folks behind.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's just it's just asking like hey, is
Speaker 1: there like is there a resource available? Oh? Sure, Like like,
Speaker 1: there's a resource my nephew. My sister uses a program
Speaker 1: for parents and it greatly reduced how much her how
Speaker 1: much she paid for your childcare, like significantly, almost in half,
Speaker 1: And I didn't know. I was like, oh, wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: So there's just honestly, there's just so many awesome resources
Speaker 1: out there that you have available to you that you
Speaker 1: might not know. So typically, I just hit up Linda.
Speaker 1: I told her she needs to start a company and
Speaker 1: I already named it the on call Advocate. But Linda
Speaker 1: is so like, no, No'm I just helping. I'm like, Linda,
Speaker 1: start a company. People can call you and you can
Speaker 1: help walk them through the resources that they have available
Speaker 1: to them. People would pay for that.
Speaker 2: Find your Linda, people, find your Linda in your task
Speaker 2: in your town or city or state where you have
Speaker 2: state specific benefits. I found out stuff about New York
Speaker 2: City New York state disability benefits like might be more
Speaker 2: generous than I thought as far as covering my parental leave.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm figuring all that out. They
Speaker 2: don't make it easy. I'm in Like I had to
Speaker 2: tell the person I talked from the phone about my
Speaker 2: I was trying to sign up for my short term
Speaker 2: disability benefits, you know, for when I'm on leave, and
Speaker 2: I got super confused, but she was like, we're gonna figure.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I have another call with her. I have
Speaker 2: a call with my HR department to fix because I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get every penny I possibly possibly can. And I'll
Speaker 2: tell you, guys, how I make that happen.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 2: We all need a Linda, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: We do in so many ways. This is a good
Speaker 1: person in general.
Speaker 2: I just have Google.
Speaker 1: Yah, So I am actually gotta do a little bit
Speaker 1: about Booz. I'm trying to see if I can find the post.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you saw this post circulating love.
Speaker 1: He actually had it in her in her stories, but
Speaker 1: it's like circulating everywhere. Okay, here it is. Snoop Dogg
Speaker 1: posted a picture of Gucci Man, who is a famous
Speaker 1: rapper if you're not aware, in his wife, who he
Speaker 1: married a year or so ago, a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: So anyway, he posted a picture of them, I guess
Speaker 1: at their wedding, and he wrote, he wrote, everyone wants this,
Speaker 1: but what y'all forget is she was with Wild Gucci
Speaker 1: on drugs, Gucci cheating, Gucci in jail, Gucci publicly with
Speaker 1: other women, Gucci. This is Gucci after therapy, rehabilitation, this
Speaker 1: is This is a street man, groomed in his thirties
Speaker 1: after he's been at his lowest point. The point is,
Speaker 1: she's a writer who knew what she signed up for.
Speaker 1: Some of you women is with the next dude after
Speaker 1: a couple of fights, and I'm like, who wants drug
Speaker 1: Gucci cheating Gucci, jail, Gucci publicly with Gucci.
Speaker 2: If I were this woman, I'd be like, uh, thank.
Speaker 1: You, because you know what, it's so crazy how women
Speaker 1: it's like that that theory that women should ride or die?
Speaker 1: Why I got to die? Like why is that even
Speaker 1: on the table? That I just want that people stop
Speaker 1: telling women that they should and not just women, but
Speaker 1: I guess meant too that somehow you should put up
Speaker 1: with all of this toxic energy and the hopes that
Speaker 1: this person turns around, because that makes you a writer.
Speaker 1: So what if Gucci never got into jail? What if
Speaker 1: Gucci died from drugs? What if? So, then what would
Speaker 1: have life have been? Yes, he turned it around, but honestly,
Speaker 1: the likely it wasn't in his favor. Let's be real,
Speaker 1: like to me, she put up with too much. That's
Speaker 1: too much. Like I just don't understand, and I don't
Speaker 1: understand how a man with daughters, because Snoop Dogg I
Speaker 1: believe has at least one daughter could share that. Is
Speaker 1: that what you want for your daughter to be with
Speaker 1: someone who is cheating, drug addicted goes to jail because
Speaker 1: of poor choice? Is that what you're wanting for your daughter?
Speaker 1: Are you going to tell her? Hey, stick it out?
Speaker 1: The Snoop Dogg right like writes underneath it that something
Speaker 1: to the effect that, like, you know, I basically put
Speaker 1: my wife through something similar. She's my secret weapon because
Speaker 1: I remember, like I remember seeing how that that swoop
Speaker 1: dog like you know, he is like a whole separate
Speaker 1: house where he can keep his concubines, and that he
Speaker 1: cheats on his wife left and right. But what is
Speaker 1: what is that? I just don't understand. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: is my brown break. Sometime women to settle for the
Speaker 1: worst of the worst of the worst in hopes that
Speaker 1: maybe one day this man turns it around. Because guess what,
Speaker 1: there are men out there who don't cheat, who don't
Speaker 1: mistreat their wives, who don't who are not on drugs,
Speaker 1: who are who are not making choices that would place
Speaker 1: them in jail, who are not making choices that would
Speaker 1: place their wife or their significant other in harm's way.
Speaker 1: You don't have to that's you don't have to settle
Speaker 1: for that, Like why because Gucci man has money? What
Speaker 1: does that even mean? So? Yeah, it's just I'm so
Speaker 1: tired of that, of that that somehow, because especially geared
Speaker 1: toward women of color, especially black women, that narrative and
Speaker 1: as if somehow we don't support our men enough, if
Speaker 1: we don't put up with and it's one thing like
Speaker 1: you know, I believe it, you know, working it out
Speaker 1: with your significant other through like oh you maybe therapy,
Speaker 1: this is that, but not when it's like dangerous toxic behavior.
Speaker 2: Since right, I will say, I mean, and how many
Speaker 2: of us are the friends of people that you've seen?
Speaker 2: Do you know, stay with people who treat them badly
Speaker 2: or you know, stay with people who are not ultimately
Speaker 2: good for them or contributing to their life. And it's
Speaker 2: really hard to be that friend, right, It's really hard
Speaker 2: to be that sister or that cousin because you're always
Speaker 2: in that awkward position.
Speaker 1: Yes, And sometimes you just want to be like because
Speaker 1: you want to say like it's not good for you
Speaker 1: or this is not healthy, and it's hard when someone's like,
Speaker 1: you know, vacillating or they're just like, no, this is
Speaker 1: where I want to be. I just I just want
Speaker 1: that that's not what we teach our young women, our
Speaker 1: older women, our girls. I just want that, you know
Speaker 1: that you don't there really is. To me, there's a
Speaker 1: narrative out there that men are bad and then you
Speaker 1: just have to choose the lesser of the evils when
Speaker 1: it comes to men. And I'm like, that's just not true.
Speaker 1: I know so many good men, you know. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I know so many good men, and I wish that
Speaker 1: that wasn't that wasn't the story that people put out
Speaker 1: there that Oh I was watching something like like you see,
Speaker 1: I'm so totally into like random pop culture. Recently, I
Speaker 1: was watching some interview with Kate Michelle and basically that's
Speaker 1: what she said, like, you know, men are bad. Men
Speaker 1: are bad people. They cheat. You just gotta find one
Speaker 1: that doesn't cheat as much or that's not as obvious.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's not true. That's just not true. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, said I do. I honestly, I'm sad for
Speaker 1: people who feel that way, because you know, somebody might
Speaker 1: be like, well, girl, you wouldn't know Superman might cheat,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and he'll be by himself. He knows
Speaker 1: very quickly. Girl, I could do bad, but my bad.
Speaker 1: That my damn self. But honestly, I don't. I don't, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not someone who checks through phones or
Speaker 1: anything like that. But like you know, I think women
Speaker 1: have intuition. I don't. That is not that is not
Speaker 1: the experience I've experienced. I've seen Superman has a twin brother.
Speaker 1: When I tell you he's been with the same woman
Speaker 1: since he was fifteen and been so overhead and heels
Speaker 1: in love, I mean that's all I mean. Like even
Speaker 1: here at the house, I'm like, are you hungry? His
Speaker 1: nickname is Nobby, Superman's twin, identical twin, You're hungry? No,
Speaker 1: my girl made food like you won't even eat no
Speaker 1: place else, Like just such a good dude and like
Speaker 1: so in love with her still to this day. They're
Speaker 1: nearly forty. So I just it just goes to show that,
Speaker 1: like that's just not true. That don't let that be
Speaker 1: your narrative. You don't have to settle for less. There
Speaker 1: are men who are good out there. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of men working out there, just like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of women who are good out there, and that they
Speaker 1: don't have to settle for that. And you can draw
Speaker 1: a line in the sand and say no, I'm worthy
Speaker 1: of more. So. Yeah, So don't you know, I'm glad
Speaker 1: the Gucci man is in a good place. I might
Speaker 1: here to hate on Gucci, but child cheese, I am
Speaker 1: not riding and dying. Ride or die. I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: ride as long as there's no danger involved.
Speaker 2: But you can let me out of this stop if
Speaker 2: we're approaching Cheatingville for drugs City.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But for all the women who are in those relationships,
Speaker 2: you know, I've known you, I've known people like you.
Speaker 2: I know how hard it is to get out. So
Speaker 2: I don't know, I respect for It's just so difficult
Speaker 2: because you can't judge people who are in those relationships.
Speaker 2: I'm all shut up after this, but it's hard to
Speaker 2: judge them because they're so in it, and it's hard
Speaker 2: to convince them that's not right for them, and you
Speaker 2: just hope that they come out on the other side
Speaker 2: and they see the light and find something that is
Speaker 2: worthy of your time. So that was it a good break.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you don't go to Snoop Dogg to
Speaker 2: raise your to to you know, share lessons for your
Speaker 2: daughter future daughters out there, but it.
Speaker 1: Was all over the social and I just I just
Speaker 1: got that. I love the stories, and I thought, how
Speaker 1: many young men and young women are going to look
Speaker 1: at this and say, yes, yes, agreed? You know?
Speaker 2: And who's ky Michelle?
Speaker 1: She just wanted like the Housewives. She's a signer too,
Speaker 1: but she's one of like is it the Housewives? No?
Speaker 1: No Love and hip hop?
Speaker 2: Oh see now I don't have cable and I don't
Speaker 2: know whatever. Yeah, ky Michelle got it, got it. Got
Speaker 2: ITT's the way I can't listen to the read because
Speaker 2: the first thirty minutes of their show, I just am like, what.
Speaker 1: That's I'm not gonna I love to read. That's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite shout out to read forgetting your own show.
Speaker 1: And yes, that's amazing. I see. I used to watch
Speaker 1: Kid Theory on on YouTube when he was in front
Speaker 1: of that salmon colored wall and he was hilarious then.
Speaker 1: So to see how far they've come honestly like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they are inspo for real, for real.
Speaker 2: I love it except for what I have no idea
Speaker 2: what they're talking about. But you're right, I ain't to
Speaker 2: get with it.
Speaker 1: That's why I get my stuff. I'm like, oh, what's
Speaker 1: happening in the world of ratchetness? Okay, thank you. Between
Speaker 1: and a little bit of Instagram here and there with
Speaker 1: something pops up with my tima, I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: dually noted.
Speaker 2: I think our shows are the perfect, like you know,
Speaker 2: side by side, dual pack. You get your you know,
Speaker 2: you don't get your ratchetness from us, I mean not
Speaker 2: for me like for serve like please, but you know
Speaker 2: you get your financial advice and you've listened to the
Speaker 2: read like that's a good combo platter.
Speaker 1: It is, it is. It's been an awesome show, as
Speaker 1: pretty used in sidebar shout out to Michelle from Home
Speaker 1: Depot and I don't even know what was that like,
Speaker 1: because she ran up to me and was like, I
Speaker 1: love your podcast. Tell Mandy. I said, Hi, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna hug you, but I was like, go ahead, girls,
Speaker 1: just go ahead on. So she did, and so I'm
Speaker 1: just like, it's so I just love that I'm out
Speaker 1: in about and how you guys are shouting out the podcast.
Speaker 1: So I meant to just shout out Michelle from home
Speaker 1: depot and in like Westfield or Summit. I don't know
Speaker 1: where that was, but yeah, just I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was nice, and she was just super excited. But
Speaker 1: I thought it was cute because as soon as she
Speaker 1: said I'm not gonna hug you, I mean, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're listened to the podcast. She's like, I do it.
Speaker 1: But I took the hug anyway, and she was really nice.
Speaker 2: Her husu Well, Happy fortieth birthday, everybody tweet Graham, text
Speaker 2: if you got her number Facebook, if you don't say
Speaker 2: happy birthday to Tip tomorrow, Happy fortieth, feisty forty. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be the year.
Speaker 2: I don't know how the hell you're gonna top the
Speaker 2: last decade, but good luck. And you set the bar
Speaker 2: very high.
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with's slowing down. If I don't do
Speaker 1: nothing else, I feel like I'm good for life.
Speaker 2: That's a beautiful place to be at forty. Let me
Speaker 2: just say that's my goal for forty. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: okay with where I'm at? Yes, yes, all right, Well,
Speaker 2: enjoy and I will text you some baby shower pictures
Speaker 2: if you text me some party pictures, and I will
Speaker 2: be celebrating. I'll be celebrating you and my heart and
Speaker 2: my mind this weekend talk as well.