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Speaker 1: number ninety eight of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. This is

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Speaker 1: your host, Chris Corso, joined by a full house. Today

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Speaker 1: Eric asks him about every single pick, his grade on

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Speaker 1: Jared Golf for that, but still, like if we're if

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Speaker 1: we're talking numbers here, you gotta you gotta move Justin

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Speaker 1: Jefferson and Adam Dale and up. I wouldn't say they're

433
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Speaker 1: their number one duo in the NFL, but top three,

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Speaker 1: I'll give them, not number one yet talk to me

435
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Speaker 1: after this year. Yeah, I mean, I don't hate the

436
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Speaker 1: Mike Evans Chris Godwin thing. They won. They won the

437
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, that they have Tom Brady. They're both guys

438
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Speaker 1: who are in the prime of their career as young,

439
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Speaker 1: ascending wide receivers that Mike Evans has been around a

440
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Speaker 1: long time, but I guess he still is ascending in

441
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Speaker 1: what he's able to do out on the field. DK Metcalf,

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00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: I love what he brings, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett is on the level talent wise of either

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson or Adam Fieland so I could even go

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Speaker 1: as far as putting us at number two with number

446
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Speaker 1: one not even being on the same stat category that

447
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Speaker 1: we were last season. And like Eric said, I think

448
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson is only going to get better, and I

449
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: don't think you Adam Fieland's really slowing down anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Eric, what do you think? Yeah, I

451
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Speaker 1: mean we all work for the Vikings, so like we're

452
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Speaker 1: trying not to come up as biased here, but it's

453
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Speaker 1: just clear for yourself, it's just clear right that. Like

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to rank defenses from last year,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be so so happy right now. So very

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Speaker 1: true whether you look at at touchdown totals or yards

457
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Speaker 1: or potential or quarterbacks, Like, I don't think any of

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Speaker 1: us are beating the drum. The Vikings should be number one.

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Speaker 1: I think they will have a good chance after this year,

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Speaker 1: but they certainly need to be moved up the list.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing I think that hurts maybe the

462
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Speaker 1: Adam and JJ is the Vikings to have a run

463
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Speaker 1: first offense, and everyone knows that maybe if we threw

464
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Speaker 1: it more and gave these guys more chances, maybe that

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Speaker 1: would kind of help their national profile a little bit. Yeah, Jay,

466
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Speaker 1: you are the guy who put this together here, so

467
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Speaker 1: what do you what do you have to say? I

468
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Speaker 1: think one of the points that Eric just made the

469
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Speaker 1: fact that we are kind of a run first offense.

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Speaker 1: You gotta remember as well, Delvin gets a bunch of

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Speaker 1: screen passes, so like some of these guys when they're

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Speaker 1: trying to run them on those tight routes, they're using

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Speaker 1: those essentially as their screen passes, where Word hitting Delvin

474
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Speaker 1: and saying get in open space and go for it.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that you've seen with these guys as well,

476
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Speaker 1: that they've been talking about not only this offseason but

477
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Speaker 1: on the back end of last season was the importance

478
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Speaker 1: of blocking and those guys understanding they have to be

479
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: well rounded wide receivers with their entire game, not just

480
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Speaker 1: constantly looking up for the deep ball flying their way.

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Speaker 1: So like for me, that the thing about it is

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Speaker 1: you start looking at some of those numbers, like in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Digs and the We're a dynamic duo. Everyone

484
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Speaker 1: loved them. They were literally ranked as the top dynamic

485
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Speaker 1: duo within the league. And if you look at their

486
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Speaker 1: numbers in twenty eighteen and then flip to Feeling and

487
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Speaker 1: Jefferson last season. Last season, they had fifty three less receptions,

488
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Speaker 1: but at the same point, they only had sixty nine

489
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Speaker 1: less yards and they had three more receiving touchdowns. So

490
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Speaker 1: like this dealing Jefferson in their very first year together,

491
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Speaker 1: given the way everything was weird during the pandemic, they

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Speaker 1: really stood out as far as our top deep threat.

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Speaker 1: And now that a guy like Kyle Rudolph is gone

494
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Speaker 1: and you've got Tyler Conklin and some of these other

495
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Speaker 1: guys trying to figure out what's officially going to happen

496
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Speaker 1: with our tight end position, plus with IRV hopefully stepping

497
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Speaker 1: up to another level this year. If all of these

498
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Speaker 1: different weapons get out in free space and can make

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Speaker 1: you hurt, like, there's no reason why these guys aren't

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Speaker 1: going to be able to do it because there's going

501
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Speaker 1: to be double teams playing all over the field and

502
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Speaker 1: you just have to pick your poison. So I think

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Speaker 1: if everyone last year said we're gonna hold on to

504
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Speaker 1: feeling and Jefferson can go one on one, good luck

505
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: doing that this year because he's gonna take it to

506
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Speaker 1: another level. I agree. That's part of my argument is

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Speaker 1: what I think justin Jefferson is going to become. We

508
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Speaker 1: see the confidence out at OTA's Gabe heard about the

509
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Speaker 1: confidence out down in Miami during the offseason. You see

510
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Speaker 1: it on his YouTube page, he's doing videos of playing basketball,

511
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna play for the Los Angeles Lakers. I

512
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Speaker 1: just think I love everything about this guy. I think

513
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Speaker 1: he's going to take this offense. He's gonna take the

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Speaker 1: offense to the next level. I mean, we all saw

515
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Speaker 1: what he was able to do last year, and he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't even a main part of the offense in

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Speaker 1: the first two games of the season. A lot of

518
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Speaker 1: people forget that. It wasn't until week three when he

519
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Speaker 1: when he really started and Kirk Cousins kind of realized that, hey,

520
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: we have a guy here that needs the ball a

521
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: little bit more in this offense. And straight from there

522
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Speaker 1: he just took off and ran with it. So he's

523
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Speaker 1: starting that out from week one. From OTA's he has

524
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Speaker 1: all the confidence in the world, and I'm really excited

525
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Speaker 1: to see what this Vikings offense is going to do.

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Speaker 1: A run centered offense, as Eric said, with the combination

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Speaker 1: of what we have in the wide receiver room and

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Speaker 1: what these young tight ends are bringing to this offense,

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see what happens here. But let's

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Speaker 1: move on to the next topic, and the topic is

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Speaker 1: an awesome interview. Eric had had the chance to sit

532
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Speaker 1: down with CBS Sports one of the top NFL draft

533
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Speaker 1: experts in the country, Chris Trepasso. He broke down all

534
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Speaker 1: of the top storylines for the Vikings throughout the draft

535
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Speaker 1: and what he thought of the first round pick and

536
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Speaker 1: trade with Christian Dariussol. So we're now joined by Chris

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Speaker 1: Trepasso of CBS Sports, and Chris did a great job

538
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: every year of covering the draft inside it out. And Chris,

539
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: we haven't talked to you since the twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: draft ended, So just want to get your real quick

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Speaker 1: reaction to the Viking draft in general. I guess did

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Speaker 1: you have a letter grade for it? It wasn't seven

543
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Speaker 1: round to a six round this year. Just a quick

544
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Speaker 1: reaction overall, how the Viking do in the draft? Yeah? Overall,

545
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Speaker 1: I really believe they had one of the better drafts

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Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. And a big part of the

547
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Speaker 1: reason why was the fact that they moved down in

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Speaker 1: round one. And I'm being a draft guy, I'm always

549
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: a proponent of getting as many draft picks as possible

550
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Speaker 1: to increase the chances that you will pick good players.

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Speaker 1: So they do that in round one, and they get

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Speaker 1: my number two offensive tackle and Christian das saw at

553
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Speaker 1: twenty three overall. I thought that was tremendous value. It

554
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: filled a need. It was one of my favorite picks

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Speaker 1: in the first round. And then to get Kellen mont

556
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Speaker 1: to get Whyatt Davis, who I think can be future starters,

557
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: and just filling out some positions of need later in

558
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: the draft with the defensive linement that we're going to

559
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: talk about today. I thought Cam Binam in the fourth

560
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: round was great value. Kind of feels like a little

561
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: bit like Cam Danceler that isn't the most athletic player

562
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: but is very naturally a good cover corner or a safety.

563
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Speaker 1: And then even getting Jalen Twyman at one ninety nine overall,

564
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: I thought was tremendous value. So they started off very

565
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: well with that tradeback and still landing who I believe

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Speaker 1: in Christian Dasa is a franchise left tackle in round one,

567
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: and to have a bunch of picks. I really liked

568
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Speaker 1: what they ultimately did on Day two and throughout Day three.

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Speaker 1: So the Vikings ended up with eleven total draft picked,

570
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much the standard under Rick spield minutes,

571
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: we feel like it's never going to be less than

572
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Speaker 1: double digit with Rick. Of those eleven picks, three of them,

573
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, were defensive linement. So we'll start with

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Speaker 1: the first one taken, and that was Patrick Jones, the

575
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Speaker 1: second the defensive end out of Pittsburgh. He was selected

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Speaker 1: at number ninety overall in the third round. I guess,

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Speaker 1: just to start, what did you like about him coming

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00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: out into the draft. I really liked how polished he

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Speaker 1: was as a pass rusher. And when I say that,

580
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean he has pass rushing moves he understands. Even

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Speaker 1: in the acc he understood that he wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: just to be able to win around the corner with

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Speaker 1: speed or power, like he can swim move back to

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Speaker 1: the inside, just do a simple crossover move like a

585
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: basketball player understood how to use a swite move move

586
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Speaker 1: around the corner on that outside speed rush. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of those Pittsburgh defensive linemen over the years

588
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: have come into the league very refined in how to

589
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Speaker 1: use their hands. And for as much as being a

590
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: good athlete can be a very good indicator of future

591
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: success in the NFL, I think if you're a defensive

592
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Speaker 1: lineman entering the league, and you still have no idea

593
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Speaker 1: how to use your hands. It's going to be an

594
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Speaker 1: uphill climb to ultimately becoming a successful edge rusher interior lineman,

595
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you're playing. I had an early fourth

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Speaker 1: round grade on Patrick Jones, so I don't think this

597
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Speaker 1: was much of a reach at all. And again, it

598
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: filled a need with someone and they kind of went

599
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: with diverse options in terms of the type of edge

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Speaker 1: rusher that they wanted to add to this roster. But

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Speaker 1: I really like the idea of going with a high

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Speaker 1: floor player in Patrick Jones. First though, Jones, I think

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Speaker 1: a six four, two hundred and sixty two pounds. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that kind of fits the mold too of

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Speaker 1: what the Vikings have kind of gone to in the

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00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: last you know, six seven years of the body type

607
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: they weren't. Yeah, that's part of it too, is that

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00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: they didn't sacrifice not picking that prototype. By taking someone

609
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: in Patrick Jones that does have the length, the size,

610
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: the body, you don't have to worry about him getting

611
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: much stronger or anything like that. So I think to

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Speaker 1: stay with the prototype and still get him in the

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Speaker 1: third round someone that has a high floor I just

614
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: again thought that made a lot of sense for the Vikings,

615
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: the team that we knew going into the draft needed

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Speaker 1: to address the edge rusher spot. And actually I like

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Speaker 1: the fact that they went offensive tackle first to help

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins help the offense. We know it is a

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Speaker 1: passing predicated league today, and then later on they littered

620
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Speaker 1: some of those late picks along the defensive line. I

621
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Speaker 1: think that was the right way to kind of navigate

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Speaker 1: this twenty twenty one draft. If you look at the

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Speaker 1: Vikings defensive in group. Now, obviously it's led by Daniel Hunter,

624
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 1: but then after that, it seemed like there's a lot

625
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: of competition for that second starting spot in the depth

626
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Speaker 1: behind them. Obviously Stephen Weatherley's back and DJ Wantam back

627
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: from a year ago, but after that, I mean, do

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Speaker 1: you think Patrick Jones could be in the mix early

629
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Speaker 1: to make an early impact. I think so. I mean

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Speaker 1: to see not only what I talked about earlier with

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Speaker 1: his pass rushing move arsenal, the fact that he was

632
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: really productive. I mean seventeen and a half sacks twenty

633
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: four tackles for loss in the last two seasons at Pittsburgh.

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00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: When you have pass rushing moves and you proved that

635
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: those would be effective at the college level, and you

636
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: were productive. I think that is why he's a high

637
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: floor player. And beyond being a high floor player, I

638
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: think he's pretty much instant impact. There's not a lot

639
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: of development. This is not someone that the Vikings need

640
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: to feel like, Hey, maybe by twenty twenty two or

641
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Patrick Jones could be a decent contributor.

642
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: I think with that competition for that number two edge rusher,

643
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: I think Patrick Jones will be a strong candidate to

644
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: hit the ground running and be productive opposite to Nell

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00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: Hunter in Minnesota. The Vikings went back to the well

646
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Speaker 1: defensive end and then a fourth round two if they

647
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: drafted Genaris Robinson the defensive end at a Florida State.

648
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: He was one hundred and thirty fourth over off election

649
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Kind of a similar leaner guy

650
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: at six five, two fifty two. What do you think

651
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: his best trait was his burst off the snap. I

652
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: wrote in my scouting notebook that he looks like a

653
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: pass catching tight end on the field, like he when

654
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: he is chasing a running back from the backside, when

655
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: he's picking up a fumble. It's insane how athletic. Genarius

656
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: Robinson is at that size in terms of physical traits,

657
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: like he's got crazy long arms. And if Patrick Jones

658
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: fits that Vikings prototype that they like bigger, longer, stronger

659
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: defensive ends, Genarius Robinson certainly checks that box too. It's

660
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: kind of the opposite of Patrick Jones and that the

661
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: pass rush move arsenal is not really there yet. But

662
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: he's bendier than Patrick Jones. And like I said, the

663
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: birth the explosion off the snap, even though Patrick Jones

664
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: is not stiff and he's not slow, but Jenarius Robinson

665
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: is just a different type of athlete. And if you

666
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: want to go high floor early in round three with

667
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: someone that can be in an impact like Patrick Jones,

668
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: but then also later in the draft to look for

669
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: potentially the next Dnil Hunter. And I know that's been

670
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: repeated over and over again, and it's kind of an

671
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: unfair comparison for any of these players. Because Denil Hunter

672
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: is so immensely talented, it makes sense to say, hey,

673
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: let's roll the dice in the fourth round. We have

674
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of fourth round picks on someone like Jenarius

675
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: Robinson that showed flashes. I truly believe of being like

676
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 1: a first round pick flashes, not consistency, but his speed rush,

677
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: how he can dip and bend at being that tall

678
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: and that big, was very, very impressive. So he's more

679
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: of a work progress. But don't be surprised if Patrick

680
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Jones is more consistent on a down to down basis.

681
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: But Genarius Robinson early in his career has some insane

682
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: splash place because he really is in that Dnell Hunter

683
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: realm of just being an absolute freak at a premium position.

684
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: So do you think then if he has, you know, flashes,

685
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: then maybe you need a little bit more time to grow.

686
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: If he a situational rusher, you know, do you think

687
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: he maybe makes an impact in the second half of

688
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: the season to it maybe take him more time. Yeah,

689
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: you took the words right out of my mouth. I

690
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: think he's more situational. You want to just say, all right,

691
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna pin your ears back and rush the passer.

692
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: We're not gonna worried about you early in this season

693
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: on first down when teams are more likely to run.

694
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: We want you to just get that outside speed rush

695
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: and threaten with your speed. If he at any early

696
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: point in his career, if Genarius Robinson can develop even

697
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: one counter move off that really explosive outside speed rush.

698
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: That's really all he would need to be that situational

699
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: rusher that's not going to play six hundred, seven hundred,

700
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: eight hundred snaps, but can be that useful rusher on

701
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: third downs and even second downs. We know that in

702
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: today's NFL teams are passing a lot more frequently on

703
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: the early down, So I think, yes, situationally, you want

704
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: him in some sub packages, your rush packages in Mike

705
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: Zimmer's defense, and yeah, by November December, when the Vikings

706
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: are hopefully making a push for the playoffs, if you

707
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: add someone with that level of athleticism to a revamped

708
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: defensive line that we know is very sturdy in the middle,

709
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: good against the run with some of the pieces that

710
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: they've brought in at defensive tackle and has different types.

711
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: They have a Dnell Hunter type, they have someone similar

712
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: in Generious Robinson. They have a high floor guy in

713
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Jones. I think that ultimately will be a very

714
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: good group because of the variation that they'll be able

715
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: to send at opposing quarterbacks. You mentioned defensive tackle. The

716
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: Viking only drafted one to this draft, but they and

717
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: they did it with their final pick and that was

718
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: at one ninety nine overall, the sixth round with Jalen

719
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: Twyman the defensive tackle, a lot of Pittsburgh. You know,

720
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people I think were high on him

721
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: after twenty nineteen, but then he didn't play. He opted

722
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: out for the twenty twenty thieve And how do you

723
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: think that opt out affected his draft doc? It really

724
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: hurt him because in twenty nineteen to hit the double

725
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: digit mark in sacks as a defensive tackle, that put

726
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: him on the radar. He had ten sacks twelve tackles

727
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: for loss in twenty nineteen at Pittsburgh. And certainly I

728
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: don't blame Jalen Twyman or any other prospect for opting out.

729
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: But with that defensive line, with Patrick Jones there at

730
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Rashad Weaver got picked in the fourth round

731
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: by the Tennessee Titans, they were bound to create a

732
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: lot of pressure up front, and Jalen Twyman to have

733
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: those two NFL caliber edge rushers on either side of him,

734
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: he would have been in a lot of one on

735
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: one situations on the inside. So I think had he played,

736
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: had the pandemic never happened, or he decided that he

737
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: wanted to play, he would have gotten picked a lot

738
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: earlier than the sixth round. And truly that was one

739
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: of my favorite in terms of pure value. I thought

740
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: that was awesome value. Like I was sitting there grading

741
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: all the picks on day three for CBS Sports, wondering

742
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: when is someone going to pick Jalen Twyman and for

743
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: him to all the way to fall almost to pick

744
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and be selected in the sixth round. I

745
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: thought that was awesome value for the Vikings. So let's

746
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: go back to twenty nineteen when when he did play,

747
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: what did he you mentioned the double digit sacks? What

748
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: did he shine at? What kind of did he do

749
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: to put his name on that radar? He's very similar

750
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: to Patrick Jones, and like I said earlier about the

751
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh program and that coaching staff, I think they just

752
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: do a really good job teaching their defensive lineman to

753
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: win with their hands. And there was very early on

754
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: some Aaron Donald comparisons. Jalen Twyman is not that type

755
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: of athlete, but I think those comparisons arose not just

756
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: because of the production and because he wore number ninety

757
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: seven at Pittsburgh. But because the pass rush move Arsenal

758
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: was fantastic, Like you saw him being centers and guards

759
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: with three or four very efficient, very effective moves that

760
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: were happening in a split second, and he ought and

761
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: he automatically had that win at the point of attack.

762
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: So that's really why I like this pick for similar

763
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: reasons to Patrick Jones in round three. To get someone

764
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: that you don't really have to teach or to coach

765
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: up on how to win at the point of attack

766
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL, that can beat blockers in a variety

767
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: of ways, use the leverage, certain angles to win those

768
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: one on one reps. I think that's what Jalen Twiman

769
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: can do right away. Really with him though, it's all

770
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: about not only winning, but then having enough burst and

771
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: speed to finish on the quarterback. I think he'll have

772
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more problems doing that in the NFL

773
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: than he did in the ACC, but again high floor

774
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: because he understands how to use his hands very well.

775
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: Twiman obviously is not going to start with Michael Pierce

776
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: and Dalvin tom with an upfront, but you know he's

777
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: probably in the mix for the three four defensive tackle

778
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: spot and in what role do you kind of see

779
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: him playing into the rookie Well, what's interesting is that

780
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: with Michael Pierson Dalvin Tomlinson, those are two super wide,

781
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: awesome run defenders. And for as good as I thought

782
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Twiman actually was against the run, for being kind of

783
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: an undersized three technique, he adds another layer, just like

784
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: the defensive line out wide, another layer to the interior

785
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: of this defensive front, in that he is an attacker.

786
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: He is a pass rusher. So if the Vikings really

787
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: want to have distinct packages where Michael Pierce and Dalvin

788
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: Thomlinson around the field and what the Vikings believe are

789
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: obvious running situations, I think that's a great tandem to

790
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: have on the interior in more pass situations maybe later

791
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: in the season, to have Jalen Twiman on your roster

792
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: to be able to just deploy him up the field

793
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: and say, use those pass rushing moves, that quick first

794
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: step to get into the backfield and disrupt. We're not

795
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: expecting you to be able to close on every single

796
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL and have ten or twelve sacks,

797
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: but we want you to just be specialized, almost like

798
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: Jennarius Robinson say hey, pin your ears Becket after the quarterback.

799
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: That's another reason why I really liked this pick, because

800
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: they have these great run stoppers, they needed someone with

801
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: a little more pass rushing juice, and certainly with the

802
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: production at Pittsburgh, the pass rushing moves. Jalen Twiman is

803
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: a pass rushing specialist that I think over the course

804
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: of Mike Zimmer's career he's really liked and gotten the

805
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: most out of so I think that's probably part of

806
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: the reason why he was picked when they saw him

807
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: still on the board at one nine nine. Overall, Chris,

808
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: always great stuff. We appreciate your inside and thanks a

809
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: lot for coming on today. Thanks for having me here.

810
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: All right, well, thanks again to Chris Trepasso from CBS

811
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Sports and Eric's we have you here on the show.

812
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: I just kind of want to get your overall takeaways

813
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: from what you thought about that conversation, what you learned.

814
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: There was so much there to break down. Yeah, I

815
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: always liked talking with Chris, and I think mainly because

816
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: I like getting his post draft reaction. You know, when

817
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: we go through the draft and we all spend you know,

818
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: months and weeks leading up to the draft, talking to

819
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: experts about who their favorite players are, where they think

820
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: guys are going to be picked, what team needs you know,

821
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: are are highlighted. But then the draft kind of comes

822
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: and goes, and I want to talk to those guys

823
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: again and kind of recap the draft. So, you know,

824
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: I always liked talking with Chris and I thought he

825
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: gave great insight to the different needs that the Viking field.

826
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: And as you guys heard in the interview, he's really

827
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: high on those three defensive linemen that's the Viking drafted

828
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: that the two guys from pitt and Patrick Jones a

829
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: second and Jayden Twyman, and then the guy from Florida

830
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: State Generics Robinson. And what Dude out to me the

831
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: most was that each one kind of bring their own

832
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: flavor to the team. They're not all all of the

833
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: same mold, where Okay, you just kind of plug this

834
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: guy in and they all do the same thing. They

835
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: all kind of offer a different skill set. So it'll

836
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: be fun to see how Andre Patterson kind of worked

837
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: with all three of those guys and kind of builds

838
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: their game during their rookie season. Like my takeaways from

839
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: your interview with them is he kind of explained Patrick

840
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: Jones the second as you know, a pat more of

841
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: a pass rusher than Genarius Robinson, who's more of a

842
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: run stuffer. And then Jalien Twineman you can put him

843
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: into situational downs. So I think with all of that said, like,

844
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: would you assume that there would be you know, a

845
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: pretty healthy rotation of defensive vans getting in this year?

846
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: I think though, and mostly because opposite of Denil Hunter

847
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: and we have to obviously figure out what happened with him,

848
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: but opposite of Denil, the other defensive end spot to

849
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: me is wide open. Like I know Stephen Weatherley's back,

850
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: but he wasn't really a starter when he was here before.

851
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: And so why can't Patrick Jones or DJ Wannam or Robinson,

852
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: Why can't one of those guys be the starter? I

853
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: think they can. I mean, whoever shines in camp in

854
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: the preseason is gonna it's gonna earn that role and

855
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: there's gonna be plenty of rep to go around. And

856
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: with Twyman, yeah, I think he has a chance too

857
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: because behind Pearce and Tomlinson's it's kind of a bunch

858
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: of unknown to well. I mean, you have armand Watts

859
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: coming back and he's been here for a few years.

860
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: But you know, James Lint was only a rookie last year.

861
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Speaker 1: He played minimally. I guess Hercules might offa kind of

862
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Speaker 1: in the mix thumbwhere and there. Twyman can certainly earn

863
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: a role. I mean, why can't he be the third

864
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Speaker 1: or fourth defensive tackle two and comment on passing down

865
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of filmler. I think maybe what Tom

866
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: Johnson did here a couple of years ago. Yeah, really

867
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Speaker 1: good stuff. Eric. I learned a lot just from I

868
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: can't believe when you ask him all those questions about

869
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: those later round picks that he kind of just spits

870
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Speaker 1: out the stat all the stats from Jalen Twyman, like

871
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Speaker 1: from his junior season, from his season before last season

872
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: when when he took off due to COVID. So that

873
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: guy is a smart dude. I can listen to him

874
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Speaker 1: talk about all the xs and o's of throughout the

875
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: draft process every each and every single year. So really

876
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Speaker 1: good stuff. Eric really enjoyed that interview. Looking forward, what

877
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Speaker 1: do you guys have to look ahead too? I know

878
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Speaker 1: we have a few more OTA practices coming up here

879
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Speaker 1: another week here at the TCO Performance Center. But what

880
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: are you most looking forward to at this point in

881
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: the Vikings offseason game? Just seeing how these young guys

882
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Speaker 1: continue to progress. Um, Like I started off there at

883
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: the show of today and the game is starting to

884
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: slow down for the veterans. I think it is also

885
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Speaker 1: for some of the rookies. Also, if I had to

886
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Speaker 1: name one, I would probably say Darrisaw and um, Whyatt Davis,

887
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Speaker 1: Like they're just not I don't know, I guess from

888
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: Jay you can probably under you can probably sense this too,

889
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: just like playing the game, like you can sense when

890
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: somebody's just overthinking. Like there are a few players, an't there.

891
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name names, like they're just overthinking

892
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Speaker 1: and it's like you get it, they're a rookie. It

893
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: comes with time. But seeing a guy like you know,

894
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Speaker 1: Christian Darrisaw, you know when he's on the sideline, like

895
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: he's he's going through the reps of the left tackle. Also,

896
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Speaker 1: I mean he's behind Rashod Hill right now, but he's

897
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Speaker 1: actually walking through what he would do if he was

898
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Speaker 1: in the game. And that helps. And I'm excited just

899
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: to see how those young guys just progress. Um, that's

900
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: the that's what this time of the years for us,

901
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: for these guys to learn the game and figure it

902
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: out before preseason. Granted we have an OTA period compared

903
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: to last year, I think to that point, hopefully everybody

904
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Speaker 1: stands safe and healthy, but just to be able to

905
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Speaker 1: see guys just out there running around again, I'm excited

906
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Speaker 1: to just continue to see that. Eric. Yeah, I think

907
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Speaker 1: the position group that I'm most excited to watch these

908
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks of OTA, the mini camp and

909
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: then obviously end of camp is the cornerback group because

910
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: so many kind of question marks there a little bit

911
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: and not necessarily in a bad way, they're just kind

912
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: of that group has a lot to prove. I think

913
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Speaker 1: the better way that I'll put it, um. You know

914
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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, you know he's got a lot of doubters

915
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: out there, but he looked great in the first week

916
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Speaker 1: of OTA. You know, Cam Danceler would not hear the

917
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: first week of OT eight, and then he didn't do

918
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Speaker 1: team drill on Wednesday in the open period, so what

919
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: kind of see where he's at. Harris and Hand had

920
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: looked great in OTA so far. I mean, he he

921
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Speaker 1: had a for sure interception on Wednesday, of Kirk Cousins

922
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: against Justin Jefferson in the red zone and if you

923
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Speaker 1: can if you can do that against Kirk and JJ,

924
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: you can probably do that against anyone in the in

925
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Speaker 1: the league. Um. You know, Jeff Gladney off to see

926
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Speaker 1: what happened with his situation. You know, Chris Boyd has

927
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: been getting some good reps because the kind of the

928
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: interchangeability of the players. Um. But that's another way of

929
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: thing that not everyone has been here at cornerback because

930
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: Peterson wasn't here on wind day this week, so it's

931
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Speaker 1: not like the Vikings have had a full compliment of

932
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Speaker 1: corner to work with. So whether that happens in week

933
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Speaker 1: three of OTAs or in mini camp or in training camp,

934
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Speaker 1: once everyone gets on the field and the battle really begins,

935
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Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued to see kind of who can elevate

936
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Speaker 1: their play and kinda find their way into into some

937
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: starting roles. And Mac Alexander two. I didn't mention Mac,

938
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Speaker 1: but but he's looked good too. He had a pick

939
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Speaker 1: today on Kirk as well. I think I mentioned that

940
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Speaker 1: at the top of the show. So lots of lots

941
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Speaker 1: of battle, you know, on the horizon for the cornerback group.

942
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Speaker 1: And also what we mentioned earlier with that money being

943
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Speaker 1: freed up, you know, it wouldn't deprive me at all

944
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Speaker 1: if I can bring in another cornerback for sure. I

945
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: agree a veteran cornerback would be nice. We know we

946
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: added a big name veteran cornerback and Patrick Peterson. That's

947
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Speaker 1: probably my biggest takeaway is seeing him out there on

948
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: the field and that number seven that stands out when

949
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: you see Patrick Peterson. We're rocking at number seven in

950
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Speaker 1: a Vikings uniform when we have only seen him wear

951
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: that bright red. It's a little bit different here in

952
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Speaker 1: the Twin Cities, so I love that. Jay. What's your

953
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: final takeaway and what you're looking forward to. I think

954
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing is, like we talked about earlier, the

955
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: just the chemistry building and those guys being able to

956
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: be on the field this year and just seeing what

957
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: kind of leaps and bounds that means for the rookie class.

958
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: We ended up getting trial by fire week one against

959
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Speaker 1: the Packers, and you know, having Rodgers and Devanta Adams

960
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: on the same same page, it really kind of helped

961
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Speaker 1: elevate and show just kind of how out of sorts

962
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: a little bit our secondary was at that point. But

963
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Speaker 1: hopefully this offseason those rookies, like we've been talking about,

964
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Speaker 1: are getting those valuable raps, getting that valuable classroom time,

965
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Speaker 1: and just getting the feel on the field. Like Gabe

966
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Speaker 1: was just saying, two, you can kind of tell when

967
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Speaker 1: people are still swimming a little bit and they're they're

968
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: thinking instead of reacting. And so hopefully as things progress

969
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Speaker 1: here through now and then through Mini camp here it

970
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Speaker 1: towards the back end of June that you'll just see

971
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: things start to click in that way. When they hit

972
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Speaker 1: training camp, they'll be fire and all cylinders as they

973
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Speaker 1: start to install their preseason week one game plan for

974
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Speaker 1: whatever they're gonna end up doing against the Broncos. And

975
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Speaker 1: so it's going to be fun just to see how

976
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Speaker 1: how this all progresses over the next essentially seven weeks.

977
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Speaker 1: On top of that, what am I looking forward to most.

978
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Speaker 1: We're going through a lot of planning right now as

979
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Speaker 1: far as training camp and coverage for the fans and

980
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: what they can expect not only for camp, but then

981
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Speaker 1: for the beginning and during the season, And so the

982
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: fun exciting stuff for us is just being able to

983
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Speaker 1: go through figure out what kind of new content we're

984
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Speaker 1: going to be bringing everybody in what kind of new

985
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: elements that we can refresh some of these different shows

986
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Speaker 1: up with as well. So we're getting to the point

987
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Speaker 1: we're getting close to episode number one hundred here the

988
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings podcast, and so we're looking to try to

989
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: shake some things up a little bit there too. So

990
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Speaker 1: it's just exciting to finally have what hopes to be

991
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Speaker 1: a normal season back, and that starts with the fans too,

992
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Speaker 1: So it'll be fun to not only see the team

993
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: back out there on the field full go, but have

994
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Speaker 1: the fans back in the building and have the fans

995
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: around given their ouzonas and just being excited like we are.

996
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: Need those fans at training camp. I know we're all

997
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Speaker 1: praying for that. That will be announced officially with the

998
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Speaker 1: schedule and everything hopefully soon here as well as the

999
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: preseason schedule getting announced very soon as well for your

1000
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Well, everything is coming into fruition for hopefully

1001
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Speaker 1: what is a normal season for the Vikings after what

1002
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Speaker 1: we all went through last year. Not fun for anybody,

1003
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Speaker 1: so looking forward to all of that. We're looking forward

1004
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Speaker 1: to the continued OTA coverage on Vikings dot com. Every

1005
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: single day you will have a daily highlight from the

1006
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Speaker 1: TCO Performance Center as well as some miked up segments

1007
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: that are coming every few days on the Vikings Entertainment

1008
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: Network platforms as well as Gabe gets a chance to

1009
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: interview a player each and every day from Vikings OTAs.

1010
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: We've had Justin Jefferson, Dalvin Cook, Harrison Smith and many others,

1011
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: so look forward for that as well. Last piece of

1012
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Speaker 1: content I'm looking at I love to watch Pete Bursis

1013
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: breakdown some film and on the Vikings Entertainment Network platforms,

1014
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: we have a ton of that content, including a recent

1015
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Speaker 1: episode of a film breakdown of Ohio State Guard Wyatt Davis,

1016
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: who is a favorite draft pick of many for this

1017
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Speaker 1: year's Vikings draft class, So look out for that as

1018
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Speaker 1: well as all of the film breakdowns that are coming

1019
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: up throughout o TIAS. Thank you guys so much. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you joining us for this episode and look

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Speaker 1: forward to chatting with you during OTIA Week three next week.