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Speaker 2: Really on your a commentator, international social media sensation and

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Speaker 3: It's been a surprisingly past President Trump's no Tax on

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Republican Party has ever been so

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Speaker 5: But you've provided presided here.

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Speaker 1: I think for thirty two years you presided over the

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Speaker 6: Well, I am are people are now the sickest people

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Speaker 5: Curiously, because you have here Jerry.

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Speaker 6: Lumber, have a different standard based upon the color of

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Speaker 5: That'd be except well, I'm not the one arguing that.

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Speaker 5: Apparently you are, because you don't know the fact that

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Speaker 6: And that's whether to say that would be under no

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Speaker 7: Nineteen fifty five, the document We saw Africa coupanongs to

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Speaker 4: That man said kill the white farmers, kill the white farmers,

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Speaker 8: That's a lot of representation.

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Speaker 5: And for those crosses we.

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Speaker 9: It's not a yell, there's not this furnament.

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Speaker 10: Get we do all we talked to you. Then we're

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Speaker 9: Gonna do what anybody wanted to do.

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Speaker 10: Who are you to tell us we're doing.

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Speaker 5: All you can?

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Speaker 9: That's who y'all be.

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Speaker 1: Welcome aboard today's edition Human Events Daily here live, Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: Today is May twenty first, twenty twenty five. Anno Dominie.

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Speaker 1: President Donald J. Trump just went full clockwork orange on

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Speaker 1: the President of South Africa, Cerril Rami Fosa there in

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Speaker 1: Well, Jack Pisovic back live here. Human Events Daily, Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: A day where the President of the United States just

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Speaker 5: Jack, Great to see you as always.

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Speaker 11: President Trump is addressing concerns about what the administration calls

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Speaker 8: Today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 6: It absolutely is. I mean, we've certainly seen people who's

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Speaker 11: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 11: Terrence Bates. A marathon House Rules Committee meeting hearing on

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Speaker 11: President Trump so called One Big Beautiful Bill is now

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Speaker 5: Before we all get this tied up.

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Speaker 1: This one big beautiful bill and one big beautiful package

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Speaker 11: are taking the Trump administration to court today over tariffs.

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Speaker 11: They're arguing that the president overstepped his authority by declaring

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Speaker 11: a national emergency in order to impose tariffs on our

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Speaker 11: global trade partners. They also allege that taxes on imports

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Speaker 11: will cause their states economic harm. A three judge panel

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Speaker 11: on the Manhattan based Court of International Trade will ultimately

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Speaker 11: decide this lawsuit. It's being brought by Democratic attorneys general

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Speaker 11: from New York, Illinois, Oregon, and nine other states. The

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Speaker 11: the states are only a leegend quote speculative economic losses

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Speaker 11: By the way, the same three judge panel heard a

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Speaker 11: similar case last week brought by five small businesses.

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Speaker 1: That's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 8: And Jack, where's Jack? Where's Jack worthy? Jack?

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Speaker 10: I want to see.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, great job, Jack, thank you what a job

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Speaker 8: you do? You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 5: We're always talking about the fake news and.

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Speaker 4: Demand, but we have guys, and these are the guys

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Speaker 4: who are forgetting Pulses team.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Pisovic, we are back live here. Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily wanted to bring you up on the Salem

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Speaker 1: Radio Network as well as on Real America's Voice. And

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Speaker 1: today's just an incredible day with President Trump there on

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Speaker 1: at the White House. What he's done with what he's

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Speaker 1: done with South Africa just just truly remarkable, truly remarkable.

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Speaker 1: And really this is only being done because of President Trump. This,

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Speaker 1: this unique individual, with his unique constellation of supporters, colleagues,

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Speaker 1: and the cabinet that he has put together, is able

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Speaker 1: to do this in a way that I really don't

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Speaker 1: think anyone else would would have ever been able to.

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Speaker 1: But one of the big issues now, of course we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the issue of immigration. It still comes to

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Speaker 1: pass that we face a lot of and the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration is facing a lot of these legal challenges to

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Speaker 1: the deportations, and so I wanted to bring on Will

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Speaker 1: Chamberlain of the Article three Project to walk us through

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Speaker 1: quite a bit of this, including a recent a recent

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Speaker 1: motion or I believe it was a ruling put up

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Speaker 1: by a sort of response by James Poe to the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court that Will you were talking about last night.

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Speaker 1: Will walk us through the merits of the case, walk

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Speaker 1: us through what's happening here and what was this? Really?

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Speaker 1: Just a rebuke to the Supreme Court all about?

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Speaker 14: Right, So, about a month ago, the Supreme Court, in

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Speaker 14: a case relating to the Alien Enemies Act, put out

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Speaker 14: an injunction saying that the government needed to not to

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Speaker 14: port a certain class of people under the Alien Enemies Act.

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Speaker 5: They certified a putative class.

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Speaker 14: This is a really bizarre ruling, and it was really

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Speaker 14: bizarre because no underlying court had yet ruled when the

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Speaker 14: Supreme Court stepped in to issue this injunction. The Supreme

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Speaker 14: Court didn't actually have jurisdiction because it's a quarter of review.

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Speaker 14: It's not a court of first few, so they need

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Speaker 14: to have some underlying opinion before they actually get to

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Speaker 14: do anything if it's not a case involving one state

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Speaker 14: suing another state over water rights or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to try to make sure i'm translating

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Speaker 1: for the listening. What you're saying is is that the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, of course has the ability to take up

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Speaker 1: cases on appeal and has the ability to make substantive

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Speaker 1: rulings on you after the process has worked has worked

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Speaker 1: its way up the ladder, So to speak to the

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Speaker 1: highest court in the land. But this was a case

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Speaker 1: specifically where none of those rulings had yet to occur,

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Speaker 1: and yet the Supreme Court was sort of making the

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Speaker 1: first ruling in a in an instance where none had

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Speaker 1: been made at a lower court.

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 14: And that's that's the problem, right the Supreme Court. This

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Speaker 14: is what's called original jurisdiction. Original jurisdiction is the right

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Speaker 14: to hear a case in the first instance. The Supreme

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Speaker 14: Court doesn't have that. They have appelle at jurisdiction except

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Speaker 14: in a very few, certain number of circumscribed cases where

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Speaker 14: the Constitution actually says cases about this topic or cases

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Speaker 14: between these parties can be heard by the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: The Constitution faper as you just said, says, it's when

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Speaker 1: it's a state versus another state over you know, something

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Speaker 1: like like right, I'm from Philadelphia, and there's there's constant

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Speaker 1: fights over you know, who has to pay for dredging,

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Speaker 1: and who has to pay for the harbor, and who's

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Speaker 1: going to get who's going to get the jobs? Who

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Speaker 1: is this right or that right? Even you know between

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Speaker 1: the tri state area Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, or

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Speaker 1: you know, there's there's also been fights. I think over

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Speaker 1: You know, it's one of these, one of these types

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Speaker 1: of things because it's you know, it sort of sits

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Speaker 1: You know, how was it that New York got set

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Speaker 1: in island not Jersey, you know, for example, you know,

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Speaker 1: and all of these sort of works of history. But

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Speaker 1: but right, that would be something that would be taken

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Speaker 1: up between the directly at the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 14: Correct, And so judje A Leito pointed this out. Justice

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Speaker 14: Leo pointed this out in his opinion almost a month ago,

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Speaker 14: where he said, I don't think we have jurisdiction here, guys.

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Speaker 5: And then a week a week ago.

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Speaker 14: The Supreme Court reaffirmed its injunction and explained itself. And

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Speaker 14: it's said in this opinion that in its view, the

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Speaker 14: District Court and the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals had

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Speaker 14: been slow in how they had responded to the plainiff's

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Speaker 14: request for an injunction, meaning the plaintiffs said, these guys

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Speaker 14: are going to be deported immediately.

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Speaker 5: You the courts must act asap.

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Speaker 14: And the Supreme Court agreed that these the lower courts

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Speaker 14: were too slow and therefore had constructively denied the motions,

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Speaker 14: and so therefore the Supreme Court had jurisdiction and judge

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Speaker 14: Hoe in today's opinion, I mean, the substance of this

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Speaker 14: opinion doesn't really matter. The Fifth Circuit today, all they

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Speaker 14: did substantively was acknowledged that the Supreme Court had made

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Speaker 14: a ruling and said that the case now needed to

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Speaker 14: be heart again by another Fifth Circuit panel. So nothing

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Speaker 14: substant occurred. But James Hill reat a recurring opinion where

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Speaker 14: he basically pointed out to the Supreme Court that under

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Speaker 14: their logic, it is now basically they are now expecting

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Speaker 14: district court judges to be not just having their courts

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Speaker 14: open for documents to be filed twenty four hours a day,

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Speaker 14: but rather they need to be following what's happening twenty

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Speaker 14: four hours a day, because the Supreme Court said, well,

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Speaker 14: the District Court waited fourteen hours and thirty eight minutes

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Speaker 14: before resolving this case. They started the time at twelve

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Speaker 14: past midnight. So they're basically saying to all these district

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Speaker 14: judges around the country like if you don't get to

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Speaker 14: an injunction and rule on it first thing immediately, where

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Speaker 14: we can treat it as though you were lazy and

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Speaker 14: didn't bother to hear the case, and we'll hear it anyway.

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Speaker 14: And Judge Hoe points out, that's crazy. We're not at Denny's.

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Speaker 14: We're not open for business in the same way twenty

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Speaker 14: four hours a day. It's literally in the opinion, he

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Speaker 14: literally says we are not.

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Speaker 1: A day, right, And so that's it's funny that, you know,

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Speaker 1: and this has sort of been a I suppose a

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Speaker 1: trend now on both sides, you know, sort of like

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Speaker 1: that we've seen now and uh, and in this you

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Speaker 1: know where you know this, this type of language isn't

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Speaker 1: typically included in you know, legal documents. They're you know,

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Speaker 1: the note for being very dry. Uh, they're being very

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Speaker 1: very straightforward. But I think that and you know, you

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Speaker 1: tell me what you think, but to me, it speaks

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Speaker 1: to just the complete a baron's nature of the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court coming in and essentially picking favorites when it comes

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Speaker 1: to plaintiffs, and by the way, doing so for Trenday

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Speaker 1: Arragua members rather than say, oh, I don't know a

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Speaker 1: US citizen. A US citizen doesn't get get the fast

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Speaker 1: track like this. And that's basically what judgejo is saying

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Speaker 1: here exactly.

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Speaker 14: And if you look at the way Supreme Court justices

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Speaker 14: in prior opinions, people like Justice Barrett have talked about

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Speaker 14: the emergency docket, which is where this is all happening.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 14: The emergency docket is when you have these emergency injunctions

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Speaker 14: going up to the Supreme Court. All those opinions are

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Speaker 14: about you need to give the district court time. They

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Speaker 14: need time to make a reason decision. We want decisions

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Speaker 14: to be made by the lower court, District Court and

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Speaker 14: the Circuit Court so we have the benefit of their

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Speaker 14: consideration and their reasoning. There's all the you know, you

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Speaker 14: the defendants are trendyar Ragua terrorists, they're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 14: we need to act immediately.

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Speaker 1: Right, And you say, you're saying this, this idea that

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I think that there are certain members of

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Speaker 1: the Supreme court that probably appreciate his words.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think, I mean, certainly Alito and Thomas, who

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Speaker 14: also it'll it'll be a wake up call for Kavanaugh

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Speaker 14: and Justice Corsic, who you know, maybe were you know,

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Speaker 14: I mean, all this stuff is happening so quickly, and

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Speaker 14: they're so busy. Maybe they really didn't think hard, which

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Speaker 14: they should have, but they didn't think hard about the

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Speaker 14: consistency of how they approached the emergency dock at across cases.

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Speaker 14: And that consistency is it's a big part of their legitimacy.

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Speaker 14: If you know, Justice Robertson and Justice Spirit weren't bending

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Speaker 14: over backwards to let people open their businesses during COVID.

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Speaker 14: They weren't bending over backwards to allow you know, there's so.

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Speaker 1: Many instances in the integrity others where they would say,

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Speaker 1: oh no, no, we don't want to weigh in. We

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Speaker 1: don't want to weigh in. We want to let the

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Speaker 1: process play out. We want to let the process play

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Speaker 1: out rather than you know, but we we do. We

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Speaker 1: do weigh in when it's a trend day Aragua member

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Speaker 1: and and I'm sorry, but when you when you tie

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Speaker 1: that to Chief Justice Roberts's interview, very rare interview that

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Speaker 1: he gave recently, talking about how it is the role

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Speaker 1: It seems to me like it's it's it's very clear

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Speaker 1: they're just they're playing politics. They're just playing politics, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's wrong. What Justice Roberts said is wrong. It's

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Speaker 1: the judiciary is not staining above the executive curing looking

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Speaker 1: for problems to cure. Their job is to affirm the

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Speaker 5: A lawful manner.

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Speaker 1: And it's and this is a huge issue, Will because

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Speaker 1: it's it's been something where and I know our mutual

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Speaker 1: friend Mike Sernovich has talked about this recently where there

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Speaker 1: is a check on the judiciary and it's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be called impeachment. It's in the constitution, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: very I think it can use like you know, once

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Speaker 1: or twice at higher levels, but we really have come

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Speaker 1: up into a system now where and this is the

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Speaker 1: wider process or wider problem I think is that Congress

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Speaker 1: like doesn't really do very much anymore, you know, you

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Speaker 1: kind of get them to put up one of these

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Speaker 1: crs every once in a while. But at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, all of the power in the country

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Speaker 1: right now is centered within the presidency, the bureaucracy, which

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Speaker 1: is like technically supposed to be part of the presidency,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's not for a lot of reasons,

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Speaker 1: and the judiciary. So because power has been separated throughout

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Speaker 1: these areas, we've come up with this strange system, which

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Speaker 1: is not the founder system, by the way, where we

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Speaker 1: treat the judiciary as if it's literally the Supreme High

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Speaker 1: is governing body in America. But that's just not right.

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Speaker 1: It's not the system as it was designed, is it.

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Speaker 5: No, And it still isn't the system we have.

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Speaker 14: I mean, they might want it to be that way,

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Speaker 14: they might try and be trying to encroach on the

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Speaker 14: other branch's power, But we're a system of co equal

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Speaker 14: branches of government of the separation of powers. So the

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Speaker 14: And it's not that the judiciary gets to check the

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Speaker 14: other branches. It's rather that all the branches have the

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Speaker 14: ability to check each other in the performance of their roles.

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Speaker 14: So the legislative branch, for example, can check the judiciary

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Speaker 14: by changing the law that based on their rulings, or

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Speaker 14: they can also defund the judiciary. The executive branch can

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Speaker 14: defy the judiciary's orders and refuse to obey them. That's

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Speaker 14: part of I mean Marbury versus Madison, if you'll remember,

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Speaker 14: you know, that's a big case that established the concept

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Speaker 14: of judicial review. But one of the things that happened

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Speaker 14: in that case is that, prior to the issues of

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Speaker 14: the ruling, Thomas Jefferson said that if we lose this

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Speaker 14: case of the Supreme Court disagrees with me, I don't care.

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Speaker 14: I Am not going to rule and give this guy

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Speaker 14: a judicial commission under any circumstances. So this interplay between

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Speaker 14: the branches is something that's a part of our constitutional

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Speaker 14: fabric since the founding.

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Speaker 1: Right, and it's been there, and yet we act as

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Speaker 1: if it's not. And unfortunately, what the actions of this court,

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Speaker 1: the actions of Roberts, the statements of Roberts, threatened to

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Speaker 1: perhaps upend this sort of gentleman's agreement between the presidency

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Speaker 1: and the judiciary. We're getting into real thorny constitutional issues here.

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Speaker 1: Final segment raws Will Chamberlain, Senior Council over the Article

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Speaker 1: three project. And we're talking about how because of sort

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Speaker 1: of the for a variety of reasons, polarization, the abrogation

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Speaker 1: of power to the bureaucracy, that it really is the

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Speaker 1: executive and the judiciary where we're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 1: the action and a lot of the fights between President

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Speaker 1: Trump and his policies. Also, when you look at President

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Speaker 1: Trump's policies, everything that he has done in his first

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Speaker 1: one hundred days and really go up until this quote unquote,

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Speaker 1: big beautiful Bill, it's all been executive action. We haven't

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Speaker 1: really seen Congress playing a huge role other than in

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Speaker 1: you know, the improvement approval of the cabinet or in

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Speaker 1: you know, various appointments. But when it really comes down

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Speaker 1: to it, it is this interplay between the executive and

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Speaker 1: the judiciary. And well, when we left the last segment

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Speaker 1: we were touching on it's a sensitive topic, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's something that does need to be brought

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Speaker 1: up at that in our original system, there was no

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Speaker 1: there was no idea that the juditiary would be supreme

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Speaker 1: over the executive, that they would be hold on let

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Speaker 1: me just say it, separate and co equal branches. So

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Speaker 1: if they were meant to be co equal branches. This

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Speaker 1: is like this is like Constitution one oh one kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff around here on human events daily. Well, if

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Speaker 1: that was meant to be, then the question is what

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Speaker 1: do you do when you have a judiciary that keeps

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Speaker 1: stomping all over the actions of the executive.

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Speaker 14: Well, there are remedies, and I think that they should

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Speaker 14: be explored. Jurisdiction stripping is one, which is to say

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Speaker 14: that over a certain subset of cases, the courts lose

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Speaker 14: their jurisdiction. You can abolish judge ships if you know,

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Speaker 14: you can simply say e merge courts into different courts.

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Speaker 14: The only court that is mandated by the Constitution to

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Speaker 14: exist is the Supreme Court. All the lower federal courts

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Speaker 14: those are creatures of Congress, and Congress can alter them,

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Speaker 14: change their jurisdiction, reduce the size of them, increase the

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Speaker 14: size of them, just totally up to Congress. So I

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Speaker 14: think all those options should be on the table. But

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Speaker 14: really I think it's just time for the Supreme Court

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Speaker 14: to understand the problem and to understand the legitimacy crisis

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Speaker 14: that they're facing here. I think we were talking about

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Speaker 14: Judge Hoe's decision sorry, Judge Hose a concurring opinion. And

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Speaker 14: what Judge is pointing out again is it seems like

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Speaker 14: the Supreme Court is more indulgent of the problems of

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Speaker 14: the legal alien gag bangers than they are of their

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, you know, this really has become

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Speaker 1: the flashpoint of so many of these issues. When let

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Speaker 1: me think about it, the American people have voted again

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Speaker 1: and again and again for some sort of relief on

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Speaker 1: order and immigration issues. It consistently comes up. It bowls

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Speaker 1: is an almost eighty twenty issue. It's it's seen in

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Speaker 1: case after case, and yet it's becoming now that the

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Speaker 1: lands and prior to the current administration, the prior Trump administration,

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Speaker 1: the impediment to any actual action there was Congress, particularly

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Speaker 1: in the Senate, with the likes of McConnell and McCain

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Speaker 1: at the time, not wanting to fund any of these things.

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Speaker 1: That's why I will I remember you specifically during the

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Speaker 1: first admin we're one of the first people that came

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Speaker 1: up with this idea of using the emergency order declarations

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Speaker 1: to be able to free up some of the money,

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Speaker 1: which is by the way done day one of the

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Speaker 1: second administration now, by the way, and yet and yet

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Speaker 1: it's the judiciary. Now, it's the courts that seem to

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Speaker 1: really be blocking all of this. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: when when the left in the media say, oh, they

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Speaker 1: need due process, you don want due process, that's what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about. What you're saying, we all know the truth.

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Speaker 1: The truth is you're not worried about due process, is

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Speaker 1: that you don't want President Trump actually deporting illegal aliens.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is about. That's what this is all about.

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Speaker 1: And that's why they'll fight for these people, uh, these

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Speaker 1: these these abject scumbags, because they know that it's something

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Speaker 1: that President Trump is trying to do and they just

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's actually a substantive debate with a procedural shechine.

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Speaker 14: That's a good way of thinking about it, right. The

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Speaker 14: is about whether or not we can deport a legal

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Speaker 14: aliens at all. Because the Democrats understand that if they

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Speaker 14: can throw enough gum in the works, if they can

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Speaker 14: enough sand in the gears, if they can impose a

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Speaker 14: certain number of process protections. Well, then the ten million

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Speaker 14: can't be a returned uh. And I think that the

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Speaker 14: problem that the judiciary needs to understand is that there's

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Speaker 14: a democratic legitimacy problem if they do that, because if

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Speaker 14: what what president one president did lawlessly cannot be reversed

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Speaker 14: by another president, then and they you know, the Supreme

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Speaker 14: Court had the opportunity to stop what President Binen was

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Speaker 14: doing and didn't. But they're going to stop president from

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Speaker 14: fixing the problem that just doesn't work. That that that

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Speaker 14: that is illegitimate from a democratic perspective. And you know

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Speaker 14: they can't get around that fundamental problem, not at all.

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Speaker 1: No, they can't, Will Chamberlain, we are out of time.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your insights and analysis. As always, where could be

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Speaker 1: the value.

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Speaker 14: Will Chamberlain on Twitter and check out what the article

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Speaker 14: three project is doing at a three P action dot com.

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Speaker 14: We got a lot of places where you can let

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Speaker 14: your senators know what you think about various issues in

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Speaker 14: a couple of claims.

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Speaker 1: Check them out, folks, ladies and gentlemen. As always, you

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Speaker 1: have my permission lay ashore.

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