1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Kalbisi joins me, 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: we all witnessed it, but only Paul had a sideline 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: view what he saw from the offense on Sunday. It's 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: now six games worth of just not good football and 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: it's only magnified by how well the defense is playing. 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: There is help on the way, however. It's Cardinals Cover two, 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: episode six h four, and it starts now Welcome to 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. Hitting the back field and down he 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: goes for a loss. JJ Watt nailed it. 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Because I go back 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: to pregame and your tweets at Paul CALBECI first time 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: in nearly two decades that we packed sunglasses right, honestly, 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: and we threw on some sunscreen just for good measure. 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: And I guarantee, guarantee that has never been the case. 21 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: In fact, I asked a lot of people will have 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: been around longer than I have and believe it, believe 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: it or not, those people do exist down on the sideline, 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: and they said, no, never remember coming up here and 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: being full sun. In fact, I believe they set a 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: record for high temperature for that date in October. That's 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: how sunny it was. And I think maybe the Seahawks 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: are thinking, oh, yeah, we got the advantage because we 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: have the sun side or the shaded side of this field, 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are in the full sum It still 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: was only eighty degrees maybe, so was there full sun? Yeah, 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: you need sunglasses and or sunscreen. Okay, but but it's 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: not like the Cardinals have been acting for months and 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: much worse. So the weather was not a factor for 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: totally different reasons then, okay, But but it did lead 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: and that was sort of the nature of the tweet, 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: was you know, this bizarro setting, so yeah, we gotta 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, we definitely got a result that we weren't 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: accustomed to in Seattle. Where the Cardinals had won five 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: of their last seven. I like it much better when 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: you bring and make your own sunshine instead of relying 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: on Seattle, because that had been the case previously. Officially 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: seventy two degrees at kickoff, and it was the cardinals 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: earliest trip to the Pacific Northwest since two eleven when 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: they visited in Week three. So yeah, things were a 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: lot different. But what has not been different this season 47 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: is the lack of an offense. We did eliminate the 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: first quarter, not scoring in the first fifteen minutes. That 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: we can eliminate that. Don't have to talk about that anymore. 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: The Cardinals did score three points on their opening possession. 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Still don't have a touchdown in the first quarter, Yet 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: it's happened after that first drive, Paul. That has left 53 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: many fans wondering, questioning, and all fair as far as 54 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: what this team now moves forward heading into Week seven 55 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: and a short week against New Orleans Saints, especially against 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: that defense, against a defense it was nearly dead last 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: and every metric and category that counts, a defense that 58 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: the week before had given up thirty nine points in 59 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: a loss to the Saints against Andy Dalton and Taysom 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: Hill the week before that had allowed a forty five 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: burger against the Lions, and the Cardinals didn't have an 62 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: offensive touchdown. So yes, it's and you know what that 63 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: first drive you mentioned it, they went down the field. 64 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: All they went down the field included enough what a 65 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: forty two yard run by Kyler Murray and there were 66 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: ten plays and there seventy six yards on that drive, 67 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: but there they were second and goal at the one, 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: and it just you know, from that point when you realize, okay, 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: we got a field goal instead of a touchdown. And 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: yes they made the field goal with Madam and Dola 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: and it would be the last field goal they would 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: attempt the rest of the game. And we'll get into that, 73 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: but you know, you had a stat what was it 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: on the first couple of drives versus the next seven drives, 75 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 1: So we talk about advanced Joseph making adjustments. I don't 76 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: know if Pete Carroll, coach Double Rainbow and his staff 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: made adjustments, but it was a totally different game after that. 78 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals second possession, first two drives, Cardinals on offense, twenty 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: four plays, one hundred and thirty one yards and six 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: first downs over the next seven drives, thirty four plays, 81 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty yards, six first downs. Wow. Wow, 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: And you know what, here's my diagnosis, and this is 83 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: what makes it difficult to resolve. It's different people with 84 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: different mistakes at different times. You can't just diagnose one 85 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: thing that is plaguing and ailing and ill in this offense. 86 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: It's different guys with micro mistakes, sometimes big mistakes. The 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: fumble by Kyler Murray. It's other routes that aren't run correctly. 88 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: It's guys weren't in the right spots at the right times. 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, Benjamin told telling us in the big red rage, 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: clouding windows of the spacing isn't correct. All of that 91 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: is out there, you know, a false star by a 92 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: different offensive lineman, every guy taking his turn at inopportune times. 93 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: So it makes it really hard to identify and correct 94 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: what exactly is wrong, other than if you want to 95 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: hit zoom out and just attribute it to attention to 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: detail and everything trickles down from there, or a lack 97 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: of focus, whatever you want to term it. It just 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: is not there the precision that you need to move 99 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: the football in the NFL when you're a bigger enemy 100 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: than the team on your schedule. When your worst opponent, 101 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: which is what the case is for the Cardinals quite often, 102 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: then yeah, that becomes difficult to resolve. Although you could 103 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: also draw a correlation between the absence of Justin Pew 104 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: and the Cardinal's lack of production on offense. That was 105 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: a problem all of a sudden, the interior O line. 106 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: When you paired up a Max Garcia and backup center 107 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: Sean Harlowe together, all of a sudden, that became problematic. 108 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: Even against the Seahawks defensive front. It was minus its 109 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: best interior d lineman in al Woods. You're right, because 110 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: you lose Justin Pugh late in that first quarter, and 111 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: it was on fourth down that first play of the 112 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: second quarter, So no Justin Pugh, and then it becomes, 113 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: all right, what is this offense capable of doing? And 114 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: after Justin Peu left the game, they were not able 115 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: to do anything. And you point to the play caller, 116 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: you point to the quarterback. And it was interesting because 117 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: we've noted several times here this season on Cardinals Covered 118 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: two presented by Hunday probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 119 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: with respects to Kyler Murray and just he just looks 120 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: out of sorts. He's just not quite as accurate. And 121 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: Kingsbury postgame quote, we are definitely not as in sync 122 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: as we've been in the past as far as accuracy, timing, 123 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: and all these things overall. And quote that was a 124 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: question about the passing game, whether it's Kyler Murray, does 125 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: he not have enough time to throw the football. He's 126 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: missing high, he's missing short, our wide receivers, pass catchers 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: not running the right routes. I don't know what's to blame, 128 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: just that I know it has not looked good with 129 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: respects to Kyler Murray dropping back and trying to push 130 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: the ball vertical up and down the field. There's no 131 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: question that his completion percentage is the lowest since his 132 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: rookie year. And it's real, It's extremely real. Even that 133 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: completion is zach er. It's not the thirty two yard 134 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: or down the field which was high and it's reeled 135 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: it in. But later in the game on a crosser 136 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: for a first down, the ball that was behind him, 137 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: that was right in front of me on the sideline, 138 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: like wow, I can't even believe it's contorted his body 139 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: and turned back inside and actually caught that ball. There 140 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: aren't many guys, especially tight ends, who can make that 141 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: catch because that ball was off the mark and it 142 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: was just a regular drag route, a crosser, and so 143 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me, and I hate to say this, 144 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm a Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen is won an only 145 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: year as Cardinals quarterback. What was the case? He would 146 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: make completions, but a lot of times he wouldn't hit 147 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: guys in stride. So there were very, very seldom were 148 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: their yards after catch because guys had stopped their route, 149 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: had to contort their body, had to go all out 150 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: and dive maybe to make a catch because balls were 151 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: just off the market. That wasn't the case with Kyler 152 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Murray his first few years, you know, and once he's 153 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: settling in as a rookie, even the accuracy was there, 154 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: The deep ball was there. Heck, the final shot to 155 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown was short. Now, I don't know if Hollywood 156 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Brown really had a step on Tarique Wallen and runs 157 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: a four two six and he's six four and it's 158 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: third and eleven and you're going deep on a thirty 159 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: yard shot down field. You know, it's just some of 160 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: that decision making too. You don't need the deep shot 161 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: there against their best corner who just posted his fourth 162 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: interception in the last four games. You know, why are 163 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: you testing that guy and the rest of that Seattle 164 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and Darry is a liability. So saying in sync or 165 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: no HURTHM, I think can become a euphemism for a 166 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: lot of different things. Accuracy, mechanics, decision making progressions is 167 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: how is he seeing the field? Is he going through 168 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: the progressions? If the first two options aren't there, is 169 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: he seeing a third? Is he hanging around long enough 170 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: to actually considering way whether a third option? Our receivers 171 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: giving up on routes one of the indictments of an 172 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Andy Isabella before he was released. If a receiver breaks 173 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: huddle thinking I'm the third or fourth option, our quarterbacks 174 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: are never even gonna get there in his mind or 175 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: in his reads, then why am I running all out? 176 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna save my effort for another play, another sequence 177 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: where I could be a primary option. So how much 178 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: of that is going on? Nobody truly knows. In addition 179 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: to between the play call by the play caller and 180 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: the play that's being run, how often is the quarterback 181 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: changing the call seeing things checking into something different. He 182 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: has the self proclaimed free reign, So what does that 183 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: mean with what sort of frequency is he literally calling 184 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: this game? It's hasn't looked good now, whether that changes 185 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: coming up on Thursday, Yes, DeAndre Hopkins returns, but I've 186 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: been very vocal, Paul, it cannot be that easy. It 187 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: cannot be that simple that you plug number ten back 188 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: into this offense and everything is hunky dory back to 189 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: a year ago seven and oh, ten and two. Because 190 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: if that's the case, then there are bigger issues within 191 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: this offense because you cannot solve what we've seen based 192 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: off of just one player. With that said, though, some 193 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: good news getting DeAndre Hopkins back, but you bring up 194 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: that interception and Hollywood Brown hurting his foot on that play. 195 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: He was spotted postgame in a walking boot. Reports this 196 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: morning ESPN's Adam Schefter saying potentially season end four tests 197 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: are needed on that foot. So we've been waiting six weeks, Paul, 198 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: to have DeAndre Hopkins and Hollywood Brown on the field 199 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: at this same time, And even before the Schefter news broke, 200 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: I was not expecting Hollywood Brown to be available on Thursday, 201 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: just based off the injury on Sunday, four days later. 202 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: It's almost impossible. But now to think that we might 203 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: not ever see it here in twenty twenty two. Wow, 204 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: And remember he's in the final year of his contract, 205 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, he is well. Look, the injury happened. The 206 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: players knew it. I went down the sideline near the vicinity. 207 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Everyone's taken a knee. It's usually an indicator. It's not good. 208 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: It's somewhat serious. He had to be helped to his feet. 209 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: He had to have a member of the training staff 210 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: underneath each arm. He was helped off the field. We 211 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: saw him after the game. He said the X rays 212 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: were negative. Buddy, he was in a walking boot and 213 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: he had a noticeable significant limp to his gait. So, yes, 214 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: it's pausible. It's plausible and reasonable to think that he 215 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: may he's gonna miss time. So and which would lead 216 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: to the signing that they had moments before, or we 217 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: just put on these headsets and the Cardinals having themselves 218 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: a new receiver six foot three Robbie Anderson acquired from 219 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers for undisclosed draft compensation. And yes, this 220 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: is the same Robbie Anderson who was kicked off the 221 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: field during Sunday's game by interim head coach and former 222 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals head coach Steve Wilkes for getting into it with 223 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: his receivers coach a number of times. And then if 224 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: and then he stuck around in locker room and met 225 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: the media Robbie Anderson and was very forthcoming and was 226 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: questioning why he was removed so for third downs, in 227 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: particular the money down. Why wasn't he in on third down? 228 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I think he was trying to because 229 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: obviously it was a bad look and it was bad 230 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: for his brand in his personal reputation. So I'm guessing 231 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: he stuck around in that Carolina locker room to meet 232 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: the media and defend himself and his decision, as dubious 233 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: as it might have been, to get into it with 234 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: his receivers coach. And you know the way he explained, 235 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: and I'm all about winning and I'm not about you know, 236 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: the money and any other act glades. You know, I 237 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: want to play, I want to matter, I want to 238 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: be there on third down. Okay, well, guess what. Welcome 239 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: to the a Z Robbie Anderson. You've got half a 240 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: season plus to prove yourself and see what your future 241 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: might be. Now. The good news here for Anderson is 242 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: he does get reunited with his position coach with the 243 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: New York Jets. Sean Jefferson was his position coach when 244 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: Anderson was coming out of college. Seven year veteran. Again, 245 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: you like the height because it's six foot three, and 246 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: you just look at what he accomplished earlier this year 247 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: Week one, Paul, he had five catches for over one 248 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: hundred and two yards against the Cleveland Browns. But then 249 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: since then he's been basically invisible and questioning why he's 250 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: been invisible. Don't know, but maybe a change of scenery 251 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: is necessary at this point, Paul, I'm just looking for anything, 252 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: and if the Cardinals can go out, if you lose 253 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown for an extended period of time, you need 254 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: to replace that with someone and might as well go 255 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: out and find someone that at least has somewhat of 256 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: a connection to this Cardinals coaching staff. Hey, I remember 257 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: we went into play Carolina just a couple of weeks ago, 258 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of talk from Matt Rule 259 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: at the time before his dismissal about he was putting 260 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: it on the receivers for Carolina saying, I guess there 261 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: was some squawking. They weren't getting a lot of targets. 262 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson included, and he put it on them to 263 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: get more separation, to get open, to be more obvious 264 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: for a Baker Mayfield. But all it took was watching 265 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: that in person, and we all did against the Cardinals. Obviously, 266 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: the Carolina passing attack was broken and dysfunctional. So okay, 267 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: I like that though that Sean Jefferson is former position coach, 268 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: so hey, obviously nobody knows him better than Shaun Jefferson, 269 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: so he got some inside intel to Steve ky B. 270 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: You would think that Robbie Anderson has a lot of 271 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: respect for Shaun Jefferson and being a loose cannon and 272 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: highly strong and very ultra aggressive, Sean Jefferson is every 273 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: bit as aggressive and forceful as a position coach, about 274 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: as forceful as the Cardinals have on that sideline, And 275 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: so okay, you'd figure if anyone can rain in that 276 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: sort of personality, it would be a Sean Jefferson. I'll 277 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: tell you a story about Sean Jefferson. There was some 278 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: serious frustration that Cardinal sideline for the second straight game 279 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: and he's the guy who will come over and grab 280 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: a player around the shoulder pads and take a walk 281 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: down the sideline. It's Shaun Jefferson. It will say, hey, 282 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: come here, let's walk and talk. And because look, these 283 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: guys are competitive. The offense obviously isn't firing, and guys 284 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: get fired up at times. They'll come in after a 285 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: drive and there's frustration and there's a spiking of a 286 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: helmet and there's some expletives that are let out, and 287 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: you know it's there for all. I'm actually surprised, okay, 288 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: between us here on covered too, I'm actually surprised that 289 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks cameras haven't caught some of that. And 290 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: I figured that they might be more apt to going 291 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: forward and so or they're just holding it for when 292 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe series debuts and the number I honestly hold on 293 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: to yourself for the debut edition because there's there's definitely 294 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: some fire and brimstone that has gone down. Then I'm 295 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: curious whether the cameras have caught and whether that would 296 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: be part of the first episode. And with the addition 297 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: now Robbie Anderson, not only with Sean Jefferson and the 298 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: familiarity there, But I would think if you ask Robbie 299 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: Anderson himself an upgrade at who's throwing him the football 300 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: from Carolina's and now to the A Z and it's 301 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: again a quick turnaround here this week. But perhaps Kyle 302 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Murraw with another offensive weapon at his disposal hasn't looked 303 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: great at times. But like I'll say, I'm just looking 304 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: for anything, and it certainly sounds like at this point 305 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that the Cardinals are being aggressive and trying 306 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: to figure out and not wait to see what goes 307 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: on moving forward, whether that's with Hollywood Brown or anyone else. 308 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: Because to your earlier point about Dandre Hopkins, great, you 309 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: got an all pro caliber receiver that's coming back. Ay, 310 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: what sort of shape he Isn't gonna be an easy 311 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: gimmion game condition. You can't even really practice this week 312 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: because there's no such thing as a practice man on 313 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: a Thursday night football, it's a glorified walk through. But 314 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: what did good defensive coordinators do best? They take away 315 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: your top option. Now, minus Hollywood Brown, DeAndre Hopkins is 316 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: gonna get more tension than ever from the Saints and 317 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: ever in the Vikings and every other opponent down the line. 318 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: What does Vance Joseph do do the opponent? Look what 319 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: he just did against DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. For 320 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: Pete's sake, those guys were non factors in Seattle. It's 321 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: remarkable what the Cardinals have done to take away the 322 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: other team's top, top target or two. So it's gonna 323 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: be vital. DeAndre Hopkins comes back, that's great, and I 324 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: do believe he helps to find coverage for a Kyler Marine. 325 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: I do think that Kyler sees the feel better when 326 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: number ten is back, just based on the how they 327 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: defended DeAndre Hopkins, and it trickles down. So now there's 328 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: really no excuse. There's Robbie Anderson, there's Rondel Moore. Where 329 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: is Greg Dorsch. How many snaps did he even get yesterday? 330 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean, my understanding was a couple aspects about the 331 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: game plan going in yesterday. One was definitely more of 332 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: a Kyler run game. Dang, we saw that. My understanding 333 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: was they were going to try and emphasize zach Ertz 334 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: more than ever. Didn't really happen until the second half, 335 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: and then I was told Greg Dortch wouldn't be a 336 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: bigger part of the game plan akin to the first 337 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of the season that obviously did not materialize. 338 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: Dortch four snaps on offense, one fewer than Javon Wims, 339 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: who was just elevated from the practice squad. To your 340 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: point about zach Ertz, because I did hear that pregame 341 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: report before kickoff, and ERTs was not even targeted at 342 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: all in the first half. All of his ten targets 343 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: came in the second half, seven catches for seventy yards. 344 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Ertz was invisible in the first half. He was and 345 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: so once again, you can't tell me that was the 346 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: game plan going in. So what does that mean? Why 347 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: does that happen? Is the defense taken away as zach 348 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Ertz making him an ultra priority? Is that the quarterback 349 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: not seeing the field? Is that the quarterback electing to 350 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: go elsewhere? I don't know, but I think it's a 351 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: symptom of a dysfunctional passing game. I just don't see 352 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: how that can. You know at some point you're gonna 353 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: try and target as accords in that first half to 354 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: get things going, and obviously that did not happen. But 355 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: when you look at the fact that the Cardinals were 356 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: four of sixteen on third down, they were one of 357 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: five on four down. They were oh of two in 358 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: the red zone. Obviously, there's a lot to fix. There 359 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: is a lot to address. And what was your stat 360 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: you had on the initial third downs and then everything changed? 361 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: What wasn't that the stat I saw they had on 362 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense and it was the oh man, and 363 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: now I don't have it here, So I started myself hanging. 364 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: They started four or five on third down, that's it, 365 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: failed to converts on their final eleven chances. But then 366 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: you break down those sixteen third downs overall, thirteen of 367 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: them were third and five or more so third and long. 368 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: So you're not being successful on first and second down 369 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: to give you a chance at a successful third down 370 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: conversion to move the chain. So, yeah, the offense certainly 371 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: has a number of issues. One of their number of questions. 372 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't have any of the answers. I just know 373 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: that your next opportunity is coming up very quickly, and 374 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: if you don't figure out, then all of a sudden 375 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: you'll be going to two and five heading into week eight, 376 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: and then you have the Minnesota Vikings coming off Thursday 377 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: night football. The extended weekend. And oh, by the way, 378 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings are five and one, so yes, you are 379 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: at a critical turning point in this season. So will 380 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: the urgency make a difference? Will you come out in 381 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: a Thursday night game? And we know the ability the 382 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: home teams usually to excel in that situation. You just 383 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: watch Seattle game film getting ready for this one, whether 384 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: their prior opponent before the Cardinals were the Saints, so 385 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: you got you're almost as fortuitous for the Cardinals to 386 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: be able to go ahead and do some homework on 387 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: the Saints. But once again, you haven't one at home 388 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: in nearly a calendar year. So with all that being considered, 389 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: what is realistic? Because man, the Cardinals defense, you talk 390 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: about doing more with less. That Cardinals defense right now 391 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: and their ability to hold Seattle which came in with 392 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: all that offensive prowess and production and the points, and 393 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: they looked like a shell of their productive self, that 394 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: Seattle offense against the Cardinals defense, which just continues to 395 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: get better. And obviously, honestly on that sideline because there 396 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: were a number of young guys playing Craig and we 397 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: saw a good production out of my j Sanders and 398 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: a Cam Thomas, but you know, and a Jesse Luketta 399 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: who ended up having to play more because the Dennis 400 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: Gardek went down. But there were also some growing pains. 401 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: There were some preseason stuff like am I into the 402 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: game and not into the game? You know, there was 403 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: some of that kind of stuff that's still getting ironed out, 404 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: and young guys, rookies in the spotlight with eyes wide, 405 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: and the coaches having to deal with some of those 406 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: growing pains. But the fact that Cardinals able to persevere 407 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: through all that on defense and put that sort of 408 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: effort out on the field, I mean much respect of Vans, 409 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: Joseph and that staff. Four straight games in which that 410 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: defense has held their opponent to twenty or fewer points. 411 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: That's a recipe for success. Unfortunately, the Cardinals are one 412 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: in three in those games. You brought up Cameron Thomas, 413 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: by the way, since you're on the sideline, is it 414 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: Cam or is it Cameron? What are his teammates calling him? 415 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: Because I've heard it now two different ways. I don't 416 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: want to call him differently because hey, you're a third 417 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: round pick. You and my j Sanders now had your 418 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL moments. As far as your first 419 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: career sacks on Sunday, and it's why you were drafted. 420 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: So I want to be able to give him his 421 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: proper do and I don't want to call him well 422 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: just Thomas. He does answer to both both, Okay. You know, 423 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: if you remember his first Prescarnans with the media and 424 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: they asked him and he sort of thought about it 425 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: like he'd never been asked that question before he goes, well, 426 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: let's go with Cameron. So I don't think it's that 427 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: big a deal. I don't he don't think he feels 428 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: strongly enough, and he's a pretty, you know, easygoing guy 429 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: until he gets in between the white stripes, so I 430 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: don't think it really matters. He did get a huge 431 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: hug from Marcus Golden, who then later was given out 432 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: his own hugs after his sack, so he ended up 433 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: getting his first official sack of the year. So there 434 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: was a lot to like on defense. Zavan Collins obviously 435 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: loaded the box score and the ability to interview him 436 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: after the game. You're seeing a guy get better right 437 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: in front of us. You're seeing a guy mature right 438 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: in front of us. I think you're seeing a guy, 439 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to him a couple of 440 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: weeks ago, just in his locker, he said, before every snap, 441 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: he just tells himself, takes a deep breath, relax, slow 442 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: it down, and so he tries to take these things 443 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: in micro steps because you know, as Zach Allen told 444 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: us in the Big Red Rage recently, the NFL is 445 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: a long way from the AAC, which is where Tulsa resides. 446 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: So he's he's obviously has a lot of growing pains, 447 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: but he's navigating that learning curve and getting better really 448 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: quickly and coming a playmaker, becoming a difference maker and 449 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: man with his size and speed. If he's able to 450 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: continue to figure it out, because they're you know that 451 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: that bodes well. And that's what's so disappointed, is to 452 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: your point four straight game where they don't allow more 453 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: than twenty points. That's winning football by your defense. If 454 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: the offense wasn't such a severe liability, you would at 455 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: least be five hundred right now. We had three questions, 456 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: or at least I had three questions about this defense 457 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: going in because that's where my concern was for this team. 458 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: It was Zavan Collins, what does he do in year three? 459 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: Kenny Handel being that quarterback of the defense, and I 460 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: think to your point, we're seeing it now the progression 461 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: from week one now to week six. Secondly, was the 462 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: edge rush. Who was going to get to the quarterback 463 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: as far as an outside linebacker is concerned. Still had 464 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: question marks even going into this past weekend. But then 465 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: you see Marcus Golden, Cameron Thomas, my J Sanders, especially 466 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: those two young side linebackers. Maybe they are trying. Maybe 467 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: they finally have figured things out with more snaps. Third 468 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: was the secondary, specifically the cornerbacks. You didn't have a 469 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 1: lot of depth there. You weren't quite sure Marco Wilson 470 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: going into year or two, Byron Murphy has become I 471 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: think it shut down corner means a little bit different 472 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: than it did maybe a few years back. But he 473 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: has performed very very well too. You look at what 474 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: the Seahawks wide receivers did. Tyler Lockett, DK metcalf A 475 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: combined four catches for fifty one yards on twelve targets. 476 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: The defense has been the story of this season. They 477 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: have been the bright spots this season. Now I think 478 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: they'll all say we can be better. And you point 479 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: to last week's game deciding drive against the Eagles. They 480 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: couldn't get off the field on third down Sunday. Was 481 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: that Kenneth Walker touchdown run. Couldn't get off the field 482 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: there when a stop would have made it twelve to 483 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: nine with your offense back on the football field. But 484 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: that's that to me, Haul, that's nitpicking if you're going 485 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: to point to those two late game scores in the 486 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: past two weeks, because this is that they're a young 487 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: defense that is maturing and improving right before our eyes. 488 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: They are getting zero help from the offense this season. 489 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: It's not like they can feed off the offense. In fact, 490 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you know, you go back to the Filling 491 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: game when the Cardinals they actually took the lead, and 492 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: that which was the one where they anyway, they took 493 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: the lead, and the Cardinals defense jumped up off the 494 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: bench because it has happened so rarely this NFL season, 495 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: they were so energized. It was the Guardeck, It was 496 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: the padded bass by JJ Watt and Gardeck ended with 497 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: the interception. Right. It was the week before the Eagles game, 498 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: and but it was just the fact the offense had 499 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: produced and scored a touchdown and given the Cardinals the 500 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: lead and that d was energized like it never was before. 501 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: So right now it reminds me the COVID year, or 502 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: we used to say, Byoe, bring your own energy, because 503 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: that defense, it's it's always having a harry the load 504 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: and there's nothing to feed off from the other side 505 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: of the ball. There's nothing where they can say, Okay, 506 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: guess what we have. You know, this unstoppable offense that's 507 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: going to allow us some grace and guess what, give 508 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: us a lead so we can do what Marcus Golden 509 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: go hunt. Those guys love to do that. Can we 510 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback and we get some numbers, which 511 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: gets us paid. They don't have that opportunity right now, 512 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: and yes there's some palpable frustration, but to their credit 513 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: on the defensive side, they've continued to ball and that secondary. 514 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: You noticed it when Christian Matthew came in. It was 515 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: one snap and they went right at him. Gino Smith 516 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: was smart enough to go right at thirty five and 517 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: they had a completion. Then boom, Christian Matthew came right 518 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: out of the game. And so if you can go 519 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: ahead to if if you can get a Trayvon mullenback 520 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: and if he is the player you think he is 521 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson Antonio Hamilton, 522 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: who in that second half they kind of switched things up. 523 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: In the second half, ham was going against DK metcalf 524 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: quite a bit, where Byron Murphy was traveling with DK 525 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: in the first half. So now all of a sudden 526 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: in Hamilton's was he was barking at the Seahawks sideline 527 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: and they're going back and forth, and he was making 528 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: plays and breaking up passes. If you can add a 529 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: Trayvon Mulling into that mix, and you can have four, 530 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: you know, reliable corners you can mix up and change around, 531 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: which Vans Joseph does a great job of doing. Then okay, 532 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: to your point, you know, really the one the two 533 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: question marks remaining on the defense to me Isaiah Simmons, 534 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: how our liabel is he snapped a snap? How much 535 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: is he still learning his position? And to what degree 536 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: the mental side of things, the assignment and alignment is 537 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: still a liability we don't know. And then then the edge, 538 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: then the edge. But with my j Sanders coming along 539 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: and you know, just that energy and guys pushing each other. 540 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: You know, you saw why they made the move for 541 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Devon Canard. Devon Knard Well obviously was not getting into 542 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: the backfielder everything. He was against the run and setting 543 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: the edge. He does not have that sort of athleticism 544 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: in length that am I J. Sanders does. So guess 545 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: what young man time to learn on the job as 546 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: a third round pick. What you hope doesn't happen. We 547 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: kind of touched on it last week coming off the 548 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: loss to the Eagles, was fracturing within that locker room, 549 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: offense versus defense, Defense doing its job, pointing to the offense, 550 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: why aren't you doing your job? Fund It interesting though, 551 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: because speaking postgame with Zavian Collins your postgame conversation, and 552 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: he mentioned that JJ Watt addressed the team prior to 553 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: the media being let in, and it was that message 554 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: to stay together and the fact that it was a 555 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: defensive player, and not just any defensive player, but the 556 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: one who has the best resume on that side of 557 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: the ball to step up in front of the room 558 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: and say whatever he did. But the bottom line was 559 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: the message was loud and clear. We are a team. 560 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: We win as a team, we lose as a team. 561 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: So you hope that you don't see that finger pointing 562 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: from either side of the room, sort of a preemptive 563 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: strike him anticipating what the me he might come in 564 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: and do, and the questions the media would post, and 565 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: of course they did post questions and rightfully so, about 566 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: the disparity between the performance of the offense and the defense. 567 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: So jj Watt, especially as a team captain on the 568 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: defensive side, his words are going to carry a lot 569 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: of weight when it comes too All right, whatever we do, 570 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be easier to do it together than 571 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: doing it separately individually. So there was that comment from 572 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Zaman Collins. There was a comment where I just asked 573 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: about the mood in the locker room and he said, 574 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: quote and you tweeted this out, I think we're all 575 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: just pissed quote end quote. He said, we got to 576 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: change something. I don't know what it is, and he 577 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: was adamant about that. It might have been the moment 578 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: in the interview where he was most adamant and really 579 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: demonstrative in his comments was we got to change something. Well, ay, 580 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: what's realistic to change on a short week and be 581 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: how do you identify what's going to change. I don't 582 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: want to go into my rant from last week, but 583 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: it was something long lines of I would break every 584 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: tendency you can, and I think the Cardinals did that 585 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: to some degree on the first drive, especially Kyler with 586 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback draw and some of those design runs. I mean, 587 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: there was there was a lot to like on that 588 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: first drive, and honestly, I thought, and then to your 589 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: point about after the second possession, they sort of lapsed 590 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: into the same unproductive manner in which they've gone about offense. 591 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: And how much of that had to do with the 592 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: offensive line, I'm not exactly sure. But how tough are 593 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: they making it on defensive coordinators right now? From all 594 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: indications not very difficult. Defenses appear to know exactly how 595 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: to scheme up against the Cardinals offense. Kyler Murray, we 596 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: want to see him run ten times might be a 597 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: little bit too much. One hundred rushing yards, you know, 598 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: Benjamin and Keanta Ingram basically did not give you much, 599 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: if anything at all. But Kyler Murray accounted for a 600 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: hundred of the one hundred and forty four rushing yards, 601 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: which is a season high. So we'll see what happens 602 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: this week. James Connor, Darryl Williams. Are they able to 603 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: go this week? Who knows? But you bring up change. 604 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: And the last topic I want to address here on 605 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday Proud, partner of the 606 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, is the kicking game. Yes, it is just 607 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 1: one player, it's a kicker. But might we see a 608 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: different place kicker this week against the New Orleans Saints 609 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Because once again we talked about the fourth down decision 610 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: to go forward on the second series of the game. 611 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: Do you not have confidence in your kicker on fourth 612 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: and four at the Seattle twenty yard line when you're 613 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: up three nothing. There were two other instances, fourth and 614 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: two at the Seattle twenty seven, fourth and two at 615 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: the Seattle twenty three. Paul, you're looking at field goals 616 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: between thirty seven and forty five yards. Look, before the game, 617 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: the word was that anything inside forty yards the Cardinals 618 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: would be apt to go ahead and try a field goal. 619 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: Anything beyond forty yards they were more likely to go 620 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: ahead and go forward on fourth down. Now, there was 621 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: a thirty seven thirty eight yarder that obviously could have 622 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: been a field goal attempt. Cardinals elected otherwise, and you know, 623 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell I'll pull back the curtain here real quick. 624 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: It's after the game. Obviously, that was one of the 625 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: main questions I had for the head coach, Cliff Kingsbury. 626 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: We're doing the interviews inside the Seahawks visiting locker room 627 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: and the broadcast location the patch chords. The connection is 628 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: in a locker at the end of the row, a locker. 629 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: So over the years, almost two decades worth, in that 630 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: final locker has always been the Cardinals kicker Neil Rackers, 631 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: Jay Feely, doesn't matter who it is, Phil Dawson, and 632 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: so I'm always literally standing next to the kicker doing interviews. 633 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I have to go ahead and make sure 634 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't step on the guy's bag, on his luggage, 635 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: that's how on top of each other you are. So 636 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: of course I have that question. And as Cliff Kingsbury 637 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: comes over and I'm looking over to my left to 638 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: see if maybe matt Am and Doola had gone to 639 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: take a shower, and he hadn't. He was about three 640 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: inches away from me. So it becomes a little more 641 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: challenging to ask some point in questions about someone who's 642 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: right next to you and it is about to lose 643 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: his job. I agree, But to go into a game 644 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: not have the ability, especially in a low scoring game 645 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: where your defense is in a slug fest and is 646 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: holding down the high scoring Seahawks, and to not have 647 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: the ability to go for a field goal into some 648 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: of those situations. But then, and I think this is 649 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: where a lot of fans get get really irate. And 650 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: it's fourth and two at the Seahawks twenty three. We're 651 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Now it's in nineteen to nine game, 652 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals go into shotgun and they go empty. 653 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and incite Cardinals defensive lineman 654 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: who have said when an offense goes into the shotgun, 655 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: it automatically pours down what I have to consider. When 656 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: they go shotgun and go empty, it restricts what I 657 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: have to consider even further. Defensive lineman, anyone in the 658 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: defensive front says thank you for that, because there's so 659 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: much less to consider and they can just come off 660 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,959 Speaker 1: the ball and go after the quarterback. And of course 661 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Kyler got sacked. That was the final sack of the game. 662 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: And at that point, that's where I get back to 663 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: the tendencies the predictability. What does Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay, 664 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: what do they do best? They keep a defense honest 665 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: and so is there enough of that right now in 666 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offensive vision in their scheme and especially against 667 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawk's defense that have been such a liability and 668 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: missing their best defensive lineman in al Woods, And so 669 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: I think that's where some of the frustration becomes palpable, 670 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: especially with the fan base. I understand going forwards when 671 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: it's three nothing, even going forward when it's nine to three, 672 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: because again it's still a one possession game. The only 673 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: issue I had as far as going forward was the 674 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: one you just mentioned. Fourth and two at the Seattle 675 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: twenty three yard line. You're down ten, you're down two scores, 676 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: ten minutes remaining in that game. At that point, you 677 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: attempt the forty to forty one yard field goal to 678 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: pull to within one score, hope your defense can get 679 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: a stop. The offense returns on the field and you're 680 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: only down a touchdown. So at that point, yeah, the analytics, 681 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: sure you should be able to gain two yards, but 682 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: late in game situations, I think you need to pull 683 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: back a little bit and figure out what do we 684 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: need in this situation as opposed to, well I don't 685 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: have confidence in our kicker. Well, if that's the case, 686 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: before you even left Arizona, should not have been in 687 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: on the roster because now all of a sudden, you 688 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: put yourself behind the eight ball when you're only kicking 689 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: field goals between twenty five and thirty five, Well, at 690 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: that point you might as well go for it, because 691 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: that's the mo of the head coach. So essentially Manda 692 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: Amondola was on the roster for kickoffs. Yeah, at that point, 693 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: might not just go with the Nino Benjamin. I'm only 694 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: saying that a half jokingly, honestly, save the roster spots, say, 695 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: address someone else on game day, and Latino Benjamin not 696 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: only handle the kickoffs, but go down there and blow 697 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: someone up, you know. So, yeah, that was confound. There's 698 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And once again I give a 699 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: lot of props to the defense because what happened after 700 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: Kyler was sacked on that fourth and two of the 701 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: twenty three and by the way, that was the penultimate 702 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: sack of the game, second to last sack of the game, 703 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense came out. JJ Watt had the tackle for 704 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: loss loss of two or three on that one, and 705 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: then on third and thirteen it was third and thirteen 706 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: Zaven had the sack. I mean, the Cardinals defense kept 707 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: bawling at that point, kept him in the game, kept 708 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: at a ten point game. Do you know how deflating 709 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: and disappointing that was on the fourth and two at 710 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: the twenty three and you're going shotgun, empty backfield and 711 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: taking the sack and so and turn over on downs again. 712 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: But the defense kept kept bringing it and kept going 713 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: after Geno Smith. So if they can just some how 714 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: figure out this offense, guess what as a team that's 715 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: a game out of first place in the NFC West, 716 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: is that correct? You're just a game out right now? 717 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: And guess what? Who knows? I mean, the winner of 718 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: this division might end up nine and eight, ten and seven. 719 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: That's the one saving grace with all this, and it's 720 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: how I led Cardinal talk on Sundays, like the one 721 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: positive on all of this is where you stand within 722 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: your own division. You're a game out of first place. 723 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: Ram Seahawks forty nine, ers all three and three, Cardinals 724 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: two and four. Yet it's why you're two and four 725 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: that stands out to me and becomes at this point, 726 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: what do you do in case of emergency break glass? 727 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 1: Someone needs to do that. Someone needs to break glass 728 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: and figure out what that emergency. We know what the 729 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: emergency is, but what is the emergency to solve? What 730 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: ails the offense? Is that d hop is that the 731 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: new acquisition in Robbie Anderson. Something needs to change. As 732 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: Avon Collins told you postgame, what is that something? I 733 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: don't know? So the reports are as we record Cover two, 734 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: that Justin Pugh might be lost for the season as 735 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: well scenes in any knee injury. It is feared season 736 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: any foot injury by Hollywood Brown, Robbie Anderson. The trade 737 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: here comes DeAndre Hopkins, and then remember Cody Ford. Cody 738 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: Ford was acquired. Now is Cody Ford eligible? Was he 739 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: was on ir his four game stint has expired? Right? 740 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: It is? He is eligible? And the last time Cliff 741 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: was asked about it, he mentioned that it was going 742 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more time. So is this 743 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: the week? Short week? And by the way, the Cardinals, 744 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: according to this, gave up a sixth round pick in 745 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: two twenty four and a seventh round pick in two 746 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty five for Robbie Anderson, which is actually 747 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: more than I thought they would give up. And considering 748 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: that if you had waited, the Panthers would have released 749 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: Robby Anderson. But then it's now on him to choose. 750 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: As a vested vet, you could go wherever you want to. 751 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: And the Cardinals jumped in front of everyone else, maybe 752 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: had to pay a little bit more because there were 753 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: interested parties in Robbie Anderson. And in terms of his contract, 754 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: the price is right. They owhim around seven hundred grand, 755 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: the pro rated remainder of his base salaries. So what 756 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: you gave up in conversation with a couple of low 757 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: round picks, or remember the Cardinals are going to get 758 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of compics over the next couple of years. 759 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: You make up for in the lack of salary, not 760 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: even seven figures you're gonna have to pay a Robbie 761 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: Anderson once again, you just you can't go with the 762 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: rest of the season with a defense being able to 763 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: double DeAndre Hopkins with impunity. And that's why you got 764 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown. That's why it's so deflating and disappointing again 765 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: because how would the defensive coverages trickle down to a 766 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown who's been commanding a lot of the double 767 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: coverage and the safeties over the top. That bracket look 768 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: a lot of what he got in Baltimore. One of 769 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: the things he was really looking forward to coming to 770 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: the Cardinals was playing with a d hop because now 771 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: if I'm getting single covered all the time, guess what, 772 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: here we go, let's ball especially coming up. I wanted 773 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: a new contract that point in his career. So disappointing 774 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, disappointing for Hollywood. I think you would agree. 775 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 1: He has been great behind the scenes, great with the media. 776 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: His insights are excellent, very bright guy. Just talking to him, 777 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: he's a great interview, great personality, very popular in the 778 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: locker room with the fellows. And so that's just devastating 779 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: to hear that. Guess what the loss is compounded at 780 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: Seattle with the loss most likely of a Hollywood Brown 781 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: and now a Justin Peu. Yeah, you got the on 782 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: field loss and two off field losses. With respects to 783 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: the roster. Moving forward and again a short week Cardinals 784 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: and Saints coming up on Thursday five fifteen is the 785 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: kickoff one thirty pm pregame coverage begins and we'll see 786 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: what DeAndre Hopkins can bring to the table, what a 787 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson means to this offense moving forward, hopefully, Paul, 788 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: the next time you and I sit down here on 789 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, we are talking about not only a win, 790 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: but an offense that is holding up its end of 791 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: the bargain and not just relying on a defense that 792 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: is keeping this team in games. And what will mean 793 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: in the run game? I mean, what were your thoughts 794 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: about how they used the run game yesterday? You saw 795 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin early, You saw you know, Benjamin come out 796 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: at halftime, and they ran them between the tackles a 797 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: few times, and it seemed to be successful. But the 798 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals got away from it, weren't able to commit to it. 799 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: They were down in the game, so that was disappointing. 800 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: Kant to Ingram was getting coached up on the sideline 801 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: by James Connor, maybe a little too patient at times 802 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: at kant to Ingram sort of waiting for his blocks 803 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: in a crease to develop, and then instead he was 804 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: getting swarmed over, you know, and swallowed up at the 805 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 1: point of attack. I think maybe if just reading through 806 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: some of the body language and some of the hand 807 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: gestures by James Connor. I think he was trying to 808 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: tell the rookie hit that hole with more ferocity, then 809 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: go ahead and look for your second cut. And so 810 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: you know you're not a Chris Johnson. Here's former Cardinals 811 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: running back who runs the four two something and you 812 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: can sort of wait, wait, wait, and boom, hit that 813 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: hit that running lane. So but yeah, once again, you 814 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: thought you'd be able to run for more yards against Seattle, 815 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. A Saints team that is 816 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: known for playing pretty stout defense, even though they got 817 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: throttled by Geno Smith a couple of games ago. That 818 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: Saints defense with a Cameron Jordan Damario O'Davis who lit 819 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: up the stat sheet on Sunday. And Tyron Matthew making 820 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: his return to State Farm Stadium in a regular season game. 821 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: He was here earlier in a preseason game, but he 822 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: has never played the Arizona Cardinals in the regular season. 823 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: And yes, it's been a little while, but you know, 824 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: Paul the honey Badger is going to be ready and 825 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: anxious to make a play. Oh yeah, oh boy, I 826 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: forgot about Tyron Matthew and I'm smiling right now, one 827 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: of our favorite all time Cardinals. A lot of respect 828 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: for the Honey Badger, NFL films, a little shout out, 829 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: some free advice. You might want to shoot the pregame 830 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: pep talk on the field by the Saints. I'm guessing 831 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew will be delivering the pregame pep talk in 832 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: his former home State Farm Stadium. That will be something 833 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: I'm just thrown down, Paul Propett, I'm saying that will 834 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: exceed expectations. I take the over on the Tyron Matthew 835 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: energetic pregame pep talk. And if you run in to 836 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: Tyren Matthew, Paul, please sent along my best as well, 837 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 1: because he was always very very good to us in 838 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: that locker room. Win or lose, absolutely, and you know, 839 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: you think of the long shot he was when the 840 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals drafted him in the third round. Once upon a time, 841 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: how he was. He was toxic, he was virtually untouchable, 842 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals went for him in the third round, 843 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 1: largely due to the credit of not only Patrick Peterson 844 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: but Pat P's family, his parents who took in Yeah, 845 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: took him in Florida, and they got him out of 846 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: New Orleans, got him away from some of his childhood influences. 847 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: That made all the difference. And you remember, it was amazing. 848 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: Look when players can play, their fellow players know it, 849 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: and they know it right away. It was rookie minicamp 850 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: and every the buzz was immediately all boy, are you 851 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: seeing what the badger is doing on the backfield because 852 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: they wouldn't let the media on the backfield with the cameras, 853 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: all you could hear was just some of the anecdotal 854 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 1: information from the veterans. And then as they got into 855 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: mandatory minicamp, Oh yeah, the Badger after Cole's practice in 856 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 1: the camera's left. Guess what he made about seventeen plays today. 857 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: He was all over the field and you could hear 858 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: him before you could see him. And he's just one 859 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: of those guys that lifts up an entire team in 860 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 1: a locker room and so much respect. Glad to see 861 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: he's able to play at least one season in his 862 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: hometown and all the Saints fans have come to love him. 863 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: Let's hope Cardinals have something in store. Maybe, you know, 864 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: get Tyron Matthew at his age at this point, get 865 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: him into the slot. Get him into space and see 866 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: if a speedster can go ahead and get a step on. 867 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: Five fifteen is the kickoff on Thursday, and on that 868 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: note we will put a lid on this edition of 869 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hunday, proud partner of the 870 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive producer 871 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: Jim Momahundro All CALVISI, I'm preg Rayel Lou. We'll talk 872 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two