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Speaker 1: Hi, Can I say something in advance? I'm so sorry

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. Where are you calling from.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling from London, but I'm originally from Russian as

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Speaker 1: you can tell, but I leaks here. I've been living here.

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Speaker 2: Why how long have you been living in London for?

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Speaker 1: I actually just moved in September, but before that, I've

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Speaker 1: been going to American International School in Greece for two years,

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Speaker 1: so I've been around Europe.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, very nice, very nice. Why did you? Maybe I

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Speaker 2: know the answer to this question, but why did you

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Speaker 2: leave Russia?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, you know the answer to this question.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, there you go.

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Speaker 1: It's not good there, and my family is definitely not

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Speaker 1: welcome there because of our political views. But anyways, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about something else, actually.

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Speaker 2: Oh sure, please, Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about falling in love for the

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Speaker 1: first time, because I'm only nineteen, but I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: that I won't ever love anybody else.

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Speaker 3: But my first love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you go ahead.

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Speaker 1: What I wanted to say is that I'm the kind

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Speaker 1: So if I'm delusional, I know I am, and I

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Speaker 1: know i'm young. I know I'm wrong about most things.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. And when my parents tell me

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Speaker 1: something like, oh, you're too young, it's all going to

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Speaker 1: be fine, I believe them. But in this specific case,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever love anybody else, and I'm

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Speaker 1: completely serious about that. The most important thing, too, is

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Speaker 1: that I'm fine with that, like I'm not. I don't

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Speaker 1: feel bad about it. I'm okay with that. I just

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Speaker 1: know I'll never of anybody else as much.

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Speaker 2: You know, Okay, why tell me? Why don't you tell

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Speaker 2: me the story? Who had you meet this person? Who

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Speaker 2: are they? What happened?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, you see, when I was fifteen, I was

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Speaker 1: really into punk rock. I was really I had a short,

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Speaker 1: the same stuff as I was. And this guy was

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Speaker 1: one year younger than me, and we became really good

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Speaker 1: friends and we dated for a little bit. He basically

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Speaker 1: he stopped liking me in about half a year, but

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Speaker 1: then we moved to Greece together, you see what happened.

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Speaker 1: And in Greece, like I said, been there for two

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Speaker 1: I knew I know him for four years and the

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Speaker 1: entire time. Basically, if the story is not that interesting,

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Speaker 1: I'm just deeply, deeply in love with this guy. And

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Speaker 1: uh it's I don't really want to talk specifically specifically

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Speaker 1: about this story because I've a fact it's not interesting.

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Speaker 1: But I was wondering if anybody else is in love

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Speaker 1: about it, Like I'm not upset that it's not mutual,

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Speaker 1: fact that it happened, and I'm totally okay with living

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Speaker 1: the rest of my life without this person but loving them.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, I have a lot of questions, so, well,

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Speaker 2: what is it? Well, what is it that made you

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's really not as important to have

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Speaker 1: people know that if they have some experience in romance

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Speaker 1: but like small stuff, we're completely different people. He's very

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Speaker 1: He's the calmest, kindest, most genuine and honest person I've

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Speaker 1: And I don't like if was the reason I'm in

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Speaker 2: So you say the way you're talking to me about this,

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Speaker 2: You're not like coming in here, You're not like head

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Speaker 2: out about it. Tell me about that feeling. Why do

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Speaker 1: See, that's exactly what I wanted to talk about, because

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Speaker 1: But I'm fine already. I'm fine with that. And what

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Speaker 1: I feel is I'm definitely going to find someone else,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm attracted to other men, not going

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Speaker 1: he's something beyond other people to me, like and I know,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to come back to the main topic because

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think it will ever pass. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not even attached to him. You know, I don't

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Speaker 2: That I mean, everything you just described is like a

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Speaker 2: that's a very that's like a it's like a very

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, Like that's kind of the ideal

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Speaker 2: to be like I loved them I still love them.

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Speaker 2: I have no attachment to them. I'm moving on with

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Speaker 2: But uh, but what I don't understand is you've come

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Speaker 2: You're gonna meet other people who you'll will unlock new

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Speaker 2: and you become a different person. Everyone arounds you becomes

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Speaker 2: What I meant that's the thing that I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on? What is the one for you?

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Speaker 1: The person that, in my humble opinion, is perfect for me,

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Speaker 1: somebody that will never be replaced by anybody else in

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Speaker 1: any way, shape or form emotionally. Uh cannot create the

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Speaker 1: same connection as the person. Nobody can create this connection.

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Speaker 2: Well, sure, you know, yes, you're never gonna have the

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Speaker 2: same connection with somebody that you had with somebody else,

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Speaker 2: because those connections are all unique. But this kind of

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Speaker 2: like it's the word monolithic applicable here. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that means like God, but it's

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Speaker 2: I'll have other connections, sure, but the one that was

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Speaker 2: don't agree with everything else that you've said. I think

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Speaker 2: is very explain why actually a pretty a pretty mature

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Speaker 2: way to kind of move through your romantic life and

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Speaker 2: a healthy way to do it. But explain why, well,

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Speaker 2: because you have no fucking idea, because you're only also

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Speaker 2: also the you're gonna like you at nineteen and you

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Speaker 2: at thirty are going to be two completely different people.

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Speaker 2: And the your eighteen year old boyfriend who was perfect

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Speaker 2: for you at that time is not going to be

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Speaker 2: the same. It's not going to be perfect for you

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Speaker 2: at another time in your life. So that the idea

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Speaker 2: that doesn't add up to me, This idea that there

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Speaker 2: I don't think that you should be going insane over

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I am in a business school, which

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Speaker 2: What's your name again?

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Speaker 1: Oh? My name is Sasha.

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Speaker 2: Sasha, Sasha is well. I guess I can take a

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 2: Someone said, is borts going? Who the hell is that?

433
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: It's like it's a Russian. It's not a Russian soup.

434
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: It's a Ukrainian So I just want people to know that.

435
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's I couldn't hear the question. But the

436
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: soup is amazing. You should definitely do it to try

437
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: to brew it at home. It's very easy thing to cook.

438
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: Someone said, what's your favorite pizza topping? I don't know

439
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: if that's that's not? Yeah, go ahead, you can answer that.

440
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a both question or a real person? Uh?

441
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: My favorite. I might get hate for that, but I

442
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: don't like any topics.

443
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 6: I just love Margarita that it's like Oh, sorry, go ahead, well,

444
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 6: someone said, someone said, did she just called borch Ukrainian?

445
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: Is it Ukrainian or is it Russian?

446
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: It's it's a Ukrainian soup, and I'm Russian. I'm as

447
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: a Russian. I would love to claim Borsche, but it's not.

448
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: It's not Russian, it's she's Ukrainian.

449
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: Someone said, is your dad, how's your dad doing with

450
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: the divorce?

451
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Oh, he's uh, he's going insane. He's uh, he started drinking.

452
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: He's he's pretty much. Yeah, he's going insane, completely insane.

453
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: He's been ignoring my mom for the past twenty years

454
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: of their marriage, and now when she's finally free, obviously

455
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: he remembered that he had a wife and now she's gone.

456
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: So he's gone insane, and I do feel bad for him,

457
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's been neglecting this marriage this entire time.

458
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: Someone said, how's your relationship with your mom?

459
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: With my mom, it's good. I mean, it's very trusting.

460
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: I trust her a lot. My mom is you know,

461
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: she's a very loving person. But I don't know. I

462
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: don't think I have a strong emotional, necessarily emotional bond

463
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: with both my parents.

464
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, Someone asked, what do you do for fun?

465
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: For fun? I like that light hearted questions. Well, for fun,

466
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: I draw a lot. I'm an artist. And I also

467
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I am trying to learn Python and like coating, any

468
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: type of coating, honestly, because I think it's very It's

469
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: a thing that everybody has to know how to do

470
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: who wants to get a good job. So I'm trying

471
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: to learn code, and it's it's very bad. It's very bad.

472
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: Well, what's your what's your name again?

473
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: My name is Sasha.

474
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Sasha, Well, Sasha, good luck to you. I think I

475
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: think you're gonna be fine, but I I don't know.

476
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if any I don't know if anything

477
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: will ever be fine, or if I'm gonna be fine,

478
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 2: or if you're gonna be I don't know anything, but

479
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: I have I don't know anything, but I'm optimistic. I'm

480
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: optimistic that you and I will both be doing and

481
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: so everything. The sun will rise again, and yeah, whatever

482
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: all that stuff. Is there anything else you want to

483
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: say to the pe the computer before we go?

484
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, all of you will be fine, me Lyle

485
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: and everybody else, we all will be fine and loved.

486
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: Here's hoping.

487
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.

488
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: Here's hoping. All right, take care, Sasha, thanks for calling.

489
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: Bye bye, m I gotta try me some of this

490
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: porch Porsche Bork. What's in it? I should have asked

491
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: her what was in it? I really like soup. Soup's good.

492
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: It's a hearty meal. I'm gonna do an advertisement for

493
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: soup right now. Not not. This is a free advertisement

494
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: for soup. Right before we get into the real advertisements.

495
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: This is this is just a general advertisement for soup.

496
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: I think soup is really good. That's my ad for soup. Hello, Hey,

497
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: what's up?

498
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 1: Man?

499
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: What's your name?

500
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: Uh?

501
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: Walker or Jesse Walker?

502
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: What's up? Walker? What do you have to What are

503
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: you doing?

504
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: Just got off work?

505
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: Man? Yeah?

506
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: What what do you do for work?

507
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: I'm in the military.

508
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what what branch of the military?

509
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: Army?

510
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: So how's that going for you? Because on this show,

511
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you listened to the show, but

512
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of people call in who are like,

513
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: they're like debating if they should join the military, and like,

514
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: I've talked to people who have and they they enjoyed

515
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: the results of their decision. And I've talked to people

516
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: who are not enjoying the results of their decision. So

517
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm curious where where you're at with that.

518
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I've been in for like, uh, it's

519
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: like a year and a half now, roughly. I think

520
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: I texted you about it, like just being like a

521
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: new new like private, new soldier in the army. I

522
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: think it's a great vision. The military is probably better

523
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: decision that I made compared to you know, how I

524
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: was living my life prior.

525
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, what tell me about that?

526
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 3: I lived on my own. You know, I moved out

527
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: of my folks house when I was like twenty and

528
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: my mom didn't really want me to leave, you know,

529
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: she was. She was super worried, super worried about me

530
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: wanting to move out. I'm sorry, dude, I'm like, I'm

531
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: really excited. My roommates like try to look at look

532
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: up your screen because we didn't think we would make

533
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: it on But oh yeah, I lived on my own

534
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: for a little bit at twenty years old, by myself,

535
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: no roommates. It was great. I was a supervisor at

536
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: an arcade like prior to joining the military, and that

537
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: was really fun. But people at arcades are kind of, uh,

538
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: they're not the best people to work around all the time.

539
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: So what you said that this was better than the

540
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: life you were living before. So why was the life

541
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: you were living before, Uh not satisfactory to you?

542
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: Well, I felt like I didn't have like I didn't

543
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: have any roommates, right, So, like I just I was

544
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: by myself. Man, I have like a girlfriend or anything.

545
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: And I spent a lot of time alone. Like I

546
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: come home from work.

547
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

548
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: And I loved my job. I loved interacting with people arcades.

549
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: I like to think I was pretty good at what

550
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: I do since I made it up the supervisor. But

551
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: I love my job. But I'd come home and I'd

552
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: be around all these people and customers and and I

553
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: come home and I'd just be upset, you know that

554
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: I'm alone. And I would have on like online friends

555
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: to play games with us, but like they wouldn't you know,

556
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: they wouldn't always be on. So I'd just be sitting

557
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: there by myself and and god, god, I'll say, don't

558
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: see this, but like, dude, like I got into like edibles,

559
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: and I like start make edibles. Just like I could

560
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: feel something, you know, when I was there by myself,

561
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: and I was really lonely, I quit, you know, since

562
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: I joined the military because I can't do that in

563
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: the military.

564
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting, yeah, I I I. I it's funny listening

565
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: to uh you say this because I'm I'm not exactly uh,

566
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: I don't exactly find the concept of getting high alone

567
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: in your apartment to feel something to be foreign. So

568
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. And then so how long

569
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: when did you join the military, and then what made

570
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: you ultimately decide that you wanted.

571
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 7: To do that?

572
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: Oh, like I joined, like said man, I joined like

573
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, Like I'm brand new, dude.

574
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: Like, so, so why why the military? What made you

575
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: want to join?

576
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: Dude? Because I feel it there was like no other

577
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: options I did, like, like I quit my job, and like,

578
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: you probably shouldn't cut your job before you move out

579
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: of your apartment because I didn't know I had to

580
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: pay for rent, so after work it is like moving place.

581
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: And I thought other jobs could feel the spot. But

582
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: I was really out of shape at the time too,

583
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: and I was just really just upset on my life.

584
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: I was happy that I had moved out, but like,

585
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I guess I just didn't feel

586
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: like I had achieved enough, and bro, I was not

587
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 3: going back to school, Like I went to school for

588
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: two years. I basically have an associate's degree. I'm not

589
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: going back. So I thought it'd be a great choice.

590
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: It can get me in shape, get me some discipline.

591
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: You know, it was worth it, you know, basically can

592
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: ai t weren't fun. Don't let don't believe what people

593
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: tell you when they say, oh, these new soldiers don't

594
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: have a hard time. Basically, no, they kicked They kick

595
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 3: our ass.

596
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: I have I have never ever ever heard somebody say

597
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: that basic training for the army is not that hard.

598
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 3: Oh dude, No, it's the old it's the older guys.

599
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: This is the guys that like already been in for

600
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: like ten twelve years. They're like, yeah, they don't, they

601
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: don't beat the shit out of you guys like they should.

602
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, because for them, for them, but they

603
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: actually got the They literally the guy would beat the

604
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: ship out of them. You know, they weren't just making

605
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: you do push ups and stuff back then.

606
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: I mean that's fair, but I have seen some people

607
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: get like tossed and thrown around to the ground, and

608
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty funny. I mean, I ended

609
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: up being on. I ended up getting my collar choked

610
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: to the wall. And you know, people don't believe that

611
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: this happens because.

612
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: Wait, wait wait wait, wait wait wait somebody somebody choked

613
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: you out.

614
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: No they didn't. So they grabbed me by the collar.

615
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: They like pushed me up against a locker because like

616
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: there was like a case going on in our Basic

617
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: and I wasn't I had some information and I wasn't

618
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 3: gonna reveal uh, and my Jill surn just had enough

619
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: and he grabbed me about a collar and he just

620
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: took me to my locker and he's just like, what

621
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: do you fucking know? And I'm like, I don't know

622
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: any take please unhand me.

623
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: So so there was a case going on and you

624
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: were like, I'm not, but did you know? Like did

625
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: you did you have this information? But you just didn't

626
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: want to snitch?

627
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

628
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: Like do you snitch? Yeah? It's kind of like, Jill,

629
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: do you snitch in there?

630
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 4: Dude?

631
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: You snitching Basic or something? Your your your rep is gone? Man,

632
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: Like no one, no one's gonna tell you ever, damn.

633
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: So what can I ask what the case was? Or

634
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: or is the statue of limitations up on that or

635
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: are you gonna get I don't want you to get

636
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: beaten up for uh snitching to the gecko. But I

637
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: don't know if I don't know if this is old news.

638
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: It's pretty old. It was probably some petty stuff, you know. Uh,

639
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know what SHARP is. But

640
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: it's like our program to prevent like sexual assault and stuff.

641
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty effective, but it's not as effective

642
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 3: as it should be because it still goes. The stuff

643
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: still happens in the military, sadly. But it was a

644
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: SHARP case, like a sexual harassment case. Yeah, not assault,

645
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: of course, but like one there was a girl there

646
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: that felt like uncomfortable with one of the guys and

647
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 3: our platoon and apparently he had stole some of her

648
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: clothes or something, and it was like stashing them in

649
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: his locker.

650
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: It.

651
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: Man, you'll do You'll meet the weirdest people and basically changed,

652
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean, the most immature, like dumbest idiots ever. And

653
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: then you'll meet like these pep performing officer ready guys

654
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: that come in like as a specialist and they're just

655
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: like the best of the best. And then he just

656
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: got like the dumbit there's dude, it's anyone can join,

657
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 3: Like there's no range, like you can all ranges of people.

658
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: You'll me.

659
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: So where So after a year and a half. After

660
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: a year and a half, how has it been for you?

661
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: Are you still enjoying it? Was it a good decision?

662
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

663
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I you know, I'm an older guy. Most

664
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: of the guys joined like right out of high school,

665
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: so they're like eighteen nineteen. I'm twenty two, but they

666
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: like joined right out of high school. But I joined

667
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: when I was like twenty one, so I was a

668
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: fairly older guy. I was older than all the new guys.

669
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: So it sucks being like, I guess, treated like I'm

670
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: a kid again, even though like you know, I lived,

671
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: you know, on my own, I took care of myself.

672
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: I'm not a kid. But I understand they do it

673
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 3: for discipline. I understood why they do it. It's for respect,

674
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: because discipline will either be demise of you or it'll

675
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: save your life. You know, I understand that now. But

676
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: you know, when I first got in, I didn't understand.

677
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: I didn't like being taught down to like I was

678
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: some kid, because you know, I'm a pretty functioning adult.

679
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 3: You know, for the most part.

680
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: Did you sign a contract where you have to like

681
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: be there for a certain amount of years.

682
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I'm in for six years.

683
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or how do you feel about that?

684
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

685
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: Because that's because that's the main thing, right, Like when

686
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: people we had another caller very recently, it might have

687
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: even been on the most recent episode or or two

688
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: episodes ago or whatever, who called in to debate whether

689
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: he wanted to join the military, and he was like, yeah,

690
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: you know, it's a six year contract. And that was

691
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: the thing. That's the thing that I think am like

692
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 2: the most hung up on is like pledging so much

693
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: of your life to this thing at a young age,

694
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: is it's kind of crazy to me, Like, how do

695
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: you feel about the fact that you have all this

696
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: uh time that you have to be a military guy

697
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: or else? I guess they do they do they kill

698
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: you if you leave.

699
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: No, if you don't serve your time, you'll just go

700
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: to jail. But like guaranteed, yeah if you don't, if

701
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: you don't serve your time, you're going to jail.

702
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: Jesus, they will find you.

703
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 7: How do you how do you feel about that? I,

704
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 7: you know, keep my head down and I served my time,

705
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 7: and I it's it's not hard, like you literally have

706
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 7: to go a wall, like you have to just be

707
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 7: lose contact with anyone you knew in the military, uh,

708
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 7: with your leadership, with your n c O.

709
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 3: Like you gotta lose you gotta go a wall. Like

710
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: it's really hard to just not do your service. All

711
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: yeaha do show up. That that's like the main if

712
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: you're lower enlisted, like for me, I don't.

713
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: Know, well oh yeah, but but like what if you

714
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: what if you decide you want to do something else?

715
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: Uh you can, oh god, I hope I don't get

716
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: in told you can hurt yourself.

717
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: You can.

718
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: Uh, that's another thing you can if you have like

719
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 3: a case, like a sharp case against you, you can easily

720
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: get kicked out. You can just like not participate in

721
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: work and just be a horrible soldier. And you know

722
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: that can get your article to a team. You can

723
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: get kicked out.

724
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: Really wait, so you can you well so like if

725
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: so like if you if you decide you don't want to,

726
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: you can just like do it. Like what if you

727
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: just you show up or you just do a shitty

728
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: job and you don't do what you're told and you

729
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: fuck off and like private pile from fucking that fucking movie,

730
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: you know, like like if you just do that, well

731
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: they just kick you out.

732
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's going against like the code, right, Like

733
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: that's going against the discipline like they try to install. Right,

734
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: So you're gonna catch hell, like one hundred percent, you're

735
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: gonna catch the most hell you ever caught. But if

736
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: you're willing to go through all that just to get

737
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: out of the military, by all means, I wouldn't recommend it.

738
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: I just do the time, and you know, not be

739
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: a bitch, you know, Uh, just do the time. You know, Oh,

740
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: I'm wasting all my years of youth. Like most people

741
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: that say that, they don't they don't know what they

742
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: want to do anyway, and they think they're just gonna

743
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: magically far figure it out. And I'm like, if military

744
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: is already on your mind, you might as well just join.

745
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: You know.

746
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 3: I wish I joined earlier when I was younger, but

747
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 3: most most young guys, young females, young guys, young.

748
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 4: Everyone doesn't know what they're doing.

749
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: I think military is great. Like not all moses have

750
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: to do six years either, Like you can do like

751
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: three four years, Like it's not that bad. Just don't

752
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: do infantry.

753
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: Well, so tell me about So that's it, because look,

754
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: here's the thing from my brain, because this is clearly

755
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: this is a one shoe does not fit all sizes

756
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: situation because I look at your I look at what

757
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: you've everything you've told me, and I'm like, well, that

758
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: sounds like it fucking sucks. But again, I mean that's

759
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: because I don't know. I can't see like pledging like

760
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: six years of my life to the military. But I definitely, definitely,

761
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: definitely can see how for a certain kind of person

762
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: who likes that rigid kind of structure and who likes

763
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: the things that the military does provide, I can see

764
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: how that can be beneficial. But tell me more, Like

765
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: you said that, the people who say, like, oh, I'm

766
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: wasting my youth, you push back against that, Tell me

767
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: more why you push back against that.

768
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: I think people that say the wasting the use just

769
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: because like you're preparing yourself for like the real role,

770
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: Like you don't have to stay in like ten twelve

771
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: years at least from my respect this, you know, I

772
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: haven't been in that long. You know, it's like a

773
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: year and a half. And I'm pretty sure any any

774
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: military guy out there can figure out what my rank is.

775
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna say what my rank is, but

776
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: just by saying how long I've been it, they probably

777
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: already know what my rank is.

778
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: So I'm not even gonna say it.

779
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: But uh, from my current experience, I don't think it

780
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: was that bad. I think you need to get something

781
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 3: out of it, you know, Like there's so many things

782
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: that the military offers. Like my goal is to like

783
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: get the military to pay for my school, Like that's

784
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: the main thing most people doing for Like, most people

785
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: aren't fortunate, man, and if you're not, you're not fortunate.

786
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: Your parents aren't rich or anything like that. Like join

787
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: the military, bro, Like free it basic sucks a t guarantee,

788
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna suck. It's gonna suck at first, but once

789
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: you once you embrace enjoying the suck, it's really not

790
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: that bad. You get free room and board, a place

791
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: where you can go eat, like any time that's usually

792
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: you know, certain times of the day morning like Grex

793
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: with lunch and dinner for a young person that doesn't

794
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 3: have ship. Dude, that's like, dude, that's you got a meal. Yes,

795
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: I want to live, you got work, choose an mos

796
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: that like you want to you want to do something

797
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: maybe that you want to do in the future or

798
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: something you just like in the you know, don't be

799
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 3: a bitch, you know, and you'll be fine.

800
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

801
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: I uh.

802
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: Well, uh should I was gonna ask you so oh yeah.

803
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: So so you were saying that you want the military

804
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: to pay for school. What do you want to go

805
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: to school for, like.

806
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: For flight school? I want to be a politile.

807
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: That's cool. Well, I don't know, I don't know, man,

808
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: I feel like again, I just can't get over the

809
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: fact of like signing such a well here, you know

810
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: what sucks about being like eighteen is that like all

811
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: these people are trying to get you to sign your

812
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: life away, like because the military, right, They're like, Okay,

813
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: if you give us six years of your life, we'll

814
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: give you this stuff. And if you say I don't

815
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: really want to do that, yeah you can go to college.

816
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: But then college is like, hey, if you give us

817
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand fucking dollars and take out this huge loan,

818
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: then you know, we'll give you this stuff. And so

819
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: it's pretty easy as an eighteen year old, especially if

820
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: you don't have a lot, to just get like sign

821
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 2: there's all like as soon as you graduate college, there's

822
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 2: all these deals with the devil that you can sign.

823
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: And you know what, God bless the people for whom

824
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: it's worked out. But it is a little spooky to

825
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: me that all these really fucking young people are they're

826
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: just they're being offered all these kind of intense options

827
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: straight out the gate.

828
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't understand that, you know, I can't

829
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: understand that, like being eighteen, like, you know, that's why

830
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm kind of glad, you know, I got a chance.

831
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: You know, when I turned eighteen, I was still working

832
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: at the same job. I worked at that arcade for

833
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: six years since I was fifteen. That's a they hired

834
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: me when I was really young. They did not know

835
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: how old I was. That's sorry, sidetrack, But I was

836
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: working there when I turned eighteen, and I was thinking

837
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: about joining the military, and you know, I just canted it,

838
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: you know, and I lived my life a little bit

839
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: up until the age of twenty where I was like,

840
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: you know, okay, I need to do something in my life,

841
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: so I can understand like joining like right at eighteen

842
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: can be kind of scary, and I you know, I'm

843
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: kind of glad. I say, I wish I would have

844
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: joined earlier, But I'm kind of glad I lived a

845
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: little bit of my own life before I joined, right,

846
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's like signing a contract with

847
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: the devil. You know, I won't say that that's a

848
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 3: that's the league street, but well.

849
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: I well, I don't know, I don't know. But let

850
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: me look look, well, let me say this. When you

851
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: say you wanted to uh uh by the way, I'm

852
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a crazy person at Gecko Suit. So

853
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm not here to have a hell dude, I'm not

854
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: here to have a discussion about the military industrial complex

855
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: with you. I'm curious when you when you say, when

856
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 2: you say I wish I'd lived my life a little

857
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: bit more before joining, what is that?

858
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: What?

859
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: What is you living your life a little bit more?

860
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: Look like, Well, for me, like I said, I already did,

861
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: like I accomplished. I had a job, I was paying

862
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: on the car, and I moved out successfully on my own.

863
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: Those are goals that I just had, like get out

864
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: of my parents' house, you know, continue to pay on

865
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: my car, see you pay on assurance? See how I

866
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: handle living life on my own, no roommates, no nothing.

867
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 3: It was rough sometimes, but I liked the challe and

868
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: just like figuring out how to take care of myself,

869
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: you know, I thought it was great, especially having your

870
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: own peace of mind. Like, man, my mom, dude, she

871
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: had me right. I love my mom, don't get twisted.

872
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: I do anything my moms need to do. But man,

873
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: she had me running all over the place like I

874
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: had all the time in the world, and I just

875
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: kind of wanted a little piece of my mind. You know.

876
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: It was but that was That's what I mean by

877
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 3: living my life. You know, I lived a little bit

878
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 3: of life. You know. I moved out, got what the experience.

879
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: I worked at a job, I went places around Texas.

880
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: I'm from Texas. I went places all around Texas. Uh. Yeah.

881
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: I just think you need to like accomplish something before

882
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: you join a military, because if you consider joining the

883
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: military your only accomplishment, I can see how that can

884
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: be a little that can you know, make you feel like, well,

885
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't do ship with my life other

886
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: than joint.

887
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you were like, well, I mean, how

888
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: much how accomplished are you supposed to be?

889
00:50:59,600 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 4: Uh?

890
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: At twenty you know, hey.

891
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: Man, in this economy, dude, twenty twenty three, living on

892
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: my own twenty as a as a twenty year old,

893
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: I think that's a great accomplishment. I hold that up

894
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: to myself.

895
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 4: To this day.

896
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: I don't know how I managed to make it, as Like, dude,

897
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: my rent was like twelve Like, no, it wasn't that day.

898
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: It was like twelve hundred for everything, thirteen hundred roughly

899
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: for everything. Then I had, like my car. No, dude,

900
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: I don't know how I made it. Sometimes God is God.

901
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: God helped me.

902
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: Bro.

903
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: Well, look I'm gonna I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna

904
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: take a call if I don't know if the chat

905
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: has any twitch chat that I'm recording these on, I

906
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: don't know if they have any questions. You don't have

907
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: to look at the chat. I'll read the questions for you.

908
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know somebody's gonna do.

909
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: What do you think someone's gonna be.

910
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: Like, uh, someone's definitely gonna ask some crazy questions. I

911
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: was also gonna say, like, my experience in military is

912
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: like not done. So my perspective may change, but thus

913
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 3: far is not that bag of a gig. I've heard

914
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 3: some people experience as bad. Some people do the full

915
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: twenty you know, I don't know. Somebody said, we're going

916
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 3: to take any questions.

917
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: This was the question I was gonna ask. Somebody said,

918
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: what are your plans after you get out?

919
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: Oh dude, That's why I'm like trying to get my

920
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: pilot flight, my commercial and my private spiler's license. While

921
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm in they give me like kind of like I

922
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 3: think I have to use leave time, but I had

923
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: to use like leave time and stuff to work on

924
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 3: that stuff. I'm gonna try to do all that and

925
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: get the military to say for that so I can

926
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: be a pilot when I get out of the military.

927
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: Hopefully Ryan's rewind asks are you afraid of war?

928
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 3: It's a scary thought, you know. But when they asked

929
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: me if I want to be like reserve or National

930
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: Guard or no, those are like the part time people.

931
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm I'm active duty. Those are like I'm not gonna say,

932
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 3: those are bitch made people. They probably have like their

933
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: own life. They have like kids and stuff. They got

934
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: college and stuff going on. I don't have anything going on.

935
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: That's why I chose actives. But am I afraid of war? Nah?

936
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: But I know I'm not gonna be the same after it.

937
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you. It's I would not

938
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: be the same after.

939
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: It's Someone said, I don't know what this means. But

940
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: someone said, what what was your ASVAB score? What does

941
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: that mean?

942
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 4: As that?

943
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: Oh, it was a sixty eight?

944
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: What is my GT? The as that?

945
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 3: I just like the test you take before you join

946
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: the military is like you go to a military recruiting office,

947
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: they'll have you at you take this test so you

948
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: can determine what job you are. You don't have to

949
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: study for it, especially if you're like you just got

950
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 3: out of high school, you definitely don't have to study

951
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: for it, or you're like in college like me. I

952
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: had just quit community college and I took the test.

953
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 3: It's basically like math, science, English, technical mechanics. I think

954
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 3: there's some other stuff. It's really easy. In my opinion,

955
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was that hard. But some people

956
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: don't think it's that easy, and they have to go

957
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: to programs to help them be able to take it

958
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: and pass, and then they'll join the military. That's fun. Fact,

959
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 3: I was too fat to join the military, so I

960
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: had to send me to fat camp and that was horrible. Yeah,

961
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: that was that was not fun.

962
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: Someone asked, do you think the American Army is on

963
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: the right side of history.

964
00:54:51,719 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 3: Uh, that's a great question. That's a great question. It depends, man,

965
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 3: because like the American military and army specifically has done

966
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 3: some pretty heinous stuff. Like they tell us about the history,

967
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 3: like they encourage us to look up the history. Uh,

968
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: and they use like previous military accidents and things that

969
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: we did as like examples of what not to do,

970
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: uh with our current military. But yeah, I don't think

971
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 3: the military was the best back in the day. Like

972
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: the reasoning sort of military's use, even in peace times

973
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 3: weren't the best, especially in like when when the military

974
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: was like first made round like eighteen O god, I'm

975
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 3: supposed to notice eighteen shit what seventeen seventy six? Holy shit,

976
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 3: seventy seventy five. Oh my god, I almost forgot that

977
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: I was what kind of fucking soldier in mind?

978
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 2: Do you feel like, yeah, yeah, well, I guess it's

979
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: good that they're like, it's good that they're like, Yo,

980
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: we did all this fucked up crazy stuff in the past,

981
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: so here like learn about it so that we don't

982
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: do it again. Do you feel like, uh, do you

983
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: feel like the military is on a better track now?

984
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it is. Yeah, I sound

985
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 3: like I'm a recruiter. That's what I sound like, trying

986
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 3: to tell people to join. And I don't want to

987
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 3: sound like I'm atruder. I just I'm having a good time.

988
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: I'm traveling. I'm getting free travel, free room and board.

989
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: All I gotta do is go to work, do my job,

990
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 3: which sucks. Sometimes go to stupid formations, which also sucks.

991
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes I get smoked sometimes too. Any Getting smoked means

992
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 3: like you get punished usually push ups one just it sucks.

993
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: But other than that, man like, I don't know. I'm

994
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: just I think it's great. I don't think everybody's gonna

995
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 3: have the same experience.

996
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Sir, H Walk Walker?

997
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

998
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: Right right, Well thanks for chatting with me.

999
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 4: Walker.

1000
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1001
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

1002
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 3: Even though I cursed during this, you know, during this call,

1003
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: I love I love God, I love to use I

1004
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: love your shown. I listened to it.

1005
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: All the time.

1006
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: Thank you, Walker, But yeah, I want to waste your time.

1007
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh you're all good?

1008
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

1009
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: Take care Walker, good luck you too. You know that

1010
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: was that was an interesting call. I like, I truly

1011
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: I really enjoy uh listening to like alternative perspectives on

1012
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: things because it's like, uh, I don't know if you

1013
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: guys remember that phone call that we had on the show,

1014
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: like however many podcasts ago. It was where there was

1015
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: a guy who was like debating whether or not to

1016
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: join the military, and I was like, I've had conversations

1017
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: like this on the show with people like the guy

1018
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: we just talked to a bunch of times, and it's like,

1019
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: not everything's gonna work for every person, because there's some

1020
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: people we've talked to who have been like, oh, I

1021
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: signed away six years of my life and I'm fucking terrified.

1022
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: But I don't know, it just goes I think it

1023
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: goes to show in general, in general, that there's a

1024
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: wide range of lives available two people, and some are

1025
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: gonna be a better fit for others than others. It

1026
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: just it sucks that like when you're again, like I

1027
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: just when when you're eighteen, it's like, well, you can

1028
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 2: join the military and sign away six years of your life,

1029
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: or you can take out a gigantic fucking loan or

1030
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: you know who I liked is On a previous podcast,

1031
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: we talked to this guy who fucking like he was

1032
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: graduated from high school and he went and went to

1033
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: Yellowstone and just started working there and he had a

1034
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: pretty he's been having a pretty good time with that.

1035
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you folks remember that guy, but

1036
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: I really like that, So I don't know. I guess

1037
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: I would say, if you're eighteen and you're just now

1038
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: graduating and stuff, there's there's a wide there seems to

1039
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: be a wide breadth of options of things to do.

1040
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: You can go to fucking volunteer somewhere, take a gap year,

1041
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: do something I didn't know. I didn't know. There seems

1042
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: to be a wide breadth of options if maybe, if

1043
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: you're gung ho on joining the military, it could work

1044
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: out for you like it did for this guy. But

1045
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm weary about signing away that much

1046
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: time of yourself. But I don't know. I don't know anything.

1047
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm a crazy gecko guy. I'm glad it worked out

1048
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: for Walker.

1049
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: And h.

1050
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: Tits. Hello. Hello, what's your name? My name's Jacob, Jacob,

1051
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: what's going on with you? Has life How's how's everything?

1052
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 4: It's all right. I'm nineteen and a little lost in life.

1053
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: I guess, like a lot of your listeners, sounds.

1054
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, well it's funny. If I'm just gonna level

1055
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: with you real quick, Jacob is it's it's been I

1056
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: think over the years, it's, uh, well, I'm just whatever.

1057
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever set out to. I guess

1058
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: start like an advice podcast because I'm almost twenty seven

1059
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: and and I've been able to be lucky enough to

1060
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: do a lot of stuff. And I'm also actually feeling

1061
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: pretty lost in life, eight years older, older than you.

1062
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's, uh, it's tough. It's why are

1063
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 2: you feeling life?

1064
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 4: Uh? Dropped out of college, just stalking shells, not really

1065
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 4: knowing what I want to do. I'll work overnight. It's

1066
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 4: been tiresome.

1067
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: Uh, you don't know, do you have inklings of an

1068
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: idea of anything you'd want to do?

1069
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 4: No? I just want to like live and try to

1070
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 4: have hobbies and ship.

1071
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: Hobbies.

1072
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just smoke weed and collect records.

1073
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if smoking weed is a hobby.

1074
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 4: If you do as much as I do, I think

1075
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: it is.

1076
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well what how often you smoking weed? I'm also

1077
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,479
Speaker 2: a daily weed guy.

1078
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 4: I've been trying to slow down for a while, but

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Speaker 4: I felt a joint in day.

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01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: All right, well, so tell you want to have hobbies

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01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: and live like okay, Well, tell me more about why

1082
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: you're feeling lost, like what, like, where's your What do

1083
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: you long for?

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01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 4: I long for motivation. That's that's what's been my struggle. Motivation.

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01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 4: I have goals. I know what I want to do

1086
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 4: kind of not really, but like I want to do it.

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01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, so you what you said? You have

1089
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: your goals and you know what you want to do.

1090
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: What do you want to do? Uh?

1091
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 4: Ship? Like?

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01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

1093
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 4: Fuck? I want to make money and save money and

1094
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 4: be an adult and mostly relationships in life. I want

1095
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 4: to have good relationships and ship.

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01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: Those are good goals. Yeah, man, do you have do

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01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: your friends?

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01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? I have a good few good friends. You know,

1099
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 4: high school ended last year. You lose a lot of

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01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: friends after that, the various social persons, so that sucked.

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01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: But I got my good ones and I think that's

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01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 4: what matters.

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01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: Let's see, you want to make money. How do you

1104
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: want to make money?

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01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 4: I don't know. I've been stocking shelves and that kind

1106
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: of makes money. I really have no plan on it.

1107
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 4: I just kind of want to like figure out life.

1108
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 4: I don't know. This shit's all confusing, you know.

1109
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: Interesting? Have you like have you tried to like okay,

1110
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: so you're like sitting here like, Okay, I know what

1111
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: I want to do, I just have to do it.

1112
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Speaker 2: So what would what would you what would you just

1113
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: doing it look like? Even because you can't just do

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01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: a thing that you don't even know what the thing

1115
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: is that you're doing. That's impossible.

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think too, Like sitting at the end

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01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: of every day, satisfied that I actually try.

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Speaker 2: That's that's That's not a thing though, Okay, sitting at

1119
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: the end, that's a feeling. I'm like you I'm talking

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: about Like, huh, that's not it. You didn't describe an action,

1121
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: Just now describe it, Okay. What is when you say

1122
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: I know what I want to do, I just have

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Speaker 2: to do it. What is doing it look like?

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Speaker 4: Well, for example, I used to love biking a lot,

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Speaker 4: and that's something that made me really happy. I have

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Speaker 4: a bike. I just don't get on it anymore. And

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01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 4: simple stuff, I think, Okay, what's stopping anymore?

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Speaker 2: What's stopping you from riding your bike?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 4: Myself? I just lay in bed. I don't know. I

1131
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 4: just I don't have the motivation to really go out

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 4: and do it. I could be I don't know.

1133
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: Have you ever talked to a real therapist about any

1134
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: of this stuff.

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01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 4: It's been something that's been on my list. I just

1136
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 4: only have online therapy that's free to me.

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01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, scary.

1138
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 4: I haven't touched it yet. I'm scared to touch it.

1139
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: You have?

1140
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: You have free online therapy? Who through what?

1141
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 4: Through? Uh my mom's insurance.

1142
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you're through your mom's insurance. You get

1143
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: free online therapy?

1144
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? I just I have the app. I just have

1145
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 4: to press the button and then the conversation starts.

1146
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: Ah, man, you should do that.

1147
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 4: Ship I've been able to do it for like two

1148
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: months and I haven't touched it.

1149
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: Ah, you should do it.

1150
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 4: Okay, you're telling me I'll do it.

1151
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: There we go, Okay, there we go. We got a thing,

1152
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: perfect day done.

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01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 4: See.

1154
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, right, is like, because I guess what

1155
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: I said, like just now when you were like I

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01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: want to be satisfied, and I was like, that's not

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01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: an action. It's like, we got to think of like

1158
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: some actual action thing to fucking do make and that's

1159
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: I think that's a great that's a great that's a

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01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: great first action to start fucking Oh my god, especially

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01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: if it's free.

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01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, this ship's crazy. I've been listening to you

1163
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 4: since COVID.

1164
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's when I started doing this.

1165
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, the big.

1166
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: The big. So what are you going to talk to

1167
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: your online therapist about.

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 4: All the motivation? Yeah, it's just been motivation. I haven't

1169
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 4: had the motivation in so long. I didn't have the

1170
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 4: motivation my senior year of high school.

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: You've seen year of high school. Wasn't that far away,

1172
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: was it?

1173
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: No?

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 4: No, it's twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Mm.

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01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 4: That's what's U.

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01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 3: M hmm.

1178
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: What would a real therapist say, I don't know.

1179
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 4: Well, you're not one.

1180
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: I know, I'm yeah, well, I I uh well, I

1181
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: guess it's so hard because sometimes you know, like you know,

1182
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: the Nike just do it thing. Yeah, it's so funny

1183
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: because you can I think there's a lot of things

1184
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: where you can kind of get into thought loops about

1185
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: and go over and over and over about the motivation

1186
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: and so that, and like, I think some of this

1187
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: ship is chemical, right, and sometimes your brain chemistry is

1188
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: just fucked. But other times I am kind of like,

1189
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: I think there is a little bit of Nike just

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01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: do it in there of like you just gotta just

1191
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: do something, but don't don't overload yourself. I mean, I

1192
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: don't know. These are like topics that people have studied

1193
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: and written extensively about and come to some forms of conclusion,

1194
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: and hopefully, hopefully your online therapist has good conclusions for you. Yeah,

1195
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: but that's a good place to start, I mean, especially

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01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: especially especially if it's free and you have the opportunity

1197
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 2: to do it without spending a bunch of money.

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 4: So just do it.

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Speaker 2: Just do it.

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 4: That's the advice I'm getting.

1201
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sorry, it's shitty, but I think it's it's uh,

1202
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: that's that's that's all. I that's all. I it's the

1203
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: only conclusion I think I have in this moment.

1204
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 4: Well, that probably helps. I'll press the button on.

1205
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: My phone and good, please dear God, do that. Oh will,

1206
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: what kind of bike do you have?

1207
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 4: Ah? Fuck? I don't know. Uh, Older, that might be

1208
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 4: please really me making it up. It's a cool bike. Fuck,

1209
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 4: I don't even know. I got it from the bike

1210
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 4: shop they sold it to me because.

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01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: My last sounds that sounds like a place where people

1212
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: get bikes from.

1213
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it was a vintage bike from the eighties

1214
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 4: or something.

1215
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 2: Really that sounds kind of cool.

1216
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. It has two wheels and it goes.

1217
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: Ride your ride your fucking bike. Man, that sounds fun.

1218
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll ride my bike just so you know.

1219
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: When you just so you know, when you're riding your bike,

1220
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: where what state do you live in?

1221
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 4: Texas?

1222
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 2: Okay? So is it is it cold?

1223
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 4: It's forty degrees right.

1224
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 2: Now celsius or fahrenheit. That's the dumbest thing I've ever

1225
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: asked anyone in my.

1226
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: Entire last.

1227
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 2: So it's cold. Yeah, yeah, all right, Well ride your bike.

1228
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna do.

1229
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: No, go ride your bike. And I just just so

1230
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: you know. I when you're riding your bike in the

1231
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: coals and you're outside and you're looking at stuff and people,

1232
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: and you're you're out and you're moving your body through space,

1233
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: you're really living the height of human experience. I mean

1234
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 2: that you're really doing the most anyone's ever done. When

1235
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 2: you're doing that, it's like that's everything. There's every everything

1236
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:39,440
Speaker 2: is in that you're you're living. I just really understand

1237
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: how intensely psychedelic and amazing of an experience that is.

1238
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 2: The just ride your bike down the street. Really like

1239
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: soak up all there is to soak in that when

1240
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: you're doing it, and you'll be like, huh my life's

1241
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 2: pretty crazy right now.

1242
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 4: Have you riden your electric bike much? I remember you

1243
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 4: talking about that.

1244
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: I did. I there was a period. I had a

1245
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 2: period of time where I was obsessed with the idea

1246
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: of getting an electric bike and being like an electric

1247
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 2: bike guy. Now, I I don't like I used to

1248
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: ride the city bike, but I don't like every every

1249
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: single time. It's probably different for you because you're in Texas,

1250
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: but in New York City, every single time I try

1251
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 2: to ride a bike, I almost die. I almost get

1252
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 2: hit by a car. Are you in a big city

1253
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: or are you in like a like.

1254
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 4: A I'm in like a suburb next to Dallas.

1255
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: So okay, perfect, okay, perfect, perfect, So you won't almost die?

1256
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 2: But yeah I didn't. I didn't end up buying the

1257
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: e bike because I I just like walking. Okay, walker,

1258
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: like that guy, Walker?

1259
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Walker, This is cool, Jacob.

1260
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: Jacob, Jacob, is there any well before we go? Is

1261
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: there anything else that you wanted out of this experience

1262
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: that I could provide for you, or any other questions

1263
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: for you before we go?

1264
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1265
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: Please?

1266
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 4: Do you know what a fantasia is?

1267
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: Say that again?

1268
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 4: A fantasia?

1269
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: A santasia?

1270
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, like p h fan A fantasia?

1271
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: Is that? That's that Disney movie?

1272
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 4: No, it sounds like it's the inability to picture things

1273
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 4: in your head.

1274
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I actually have Okay, I actually do kind

1275
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: of know. Yeah, okay, I actually do know what this is.

1276
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: I do know.

1277
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got that. Yeah, oh you do. Yeah, I

1278
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 4: can't picture huh.

1279
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: Okay. So I guess everything I say to you about

1280
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: picturing yourself. Yeah, I guess that meant nothing to you.

1281
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1282
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: Well I don't know.

1283
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,879
Speaker 4: I'll go do it and I'll and I'll write it down.

1284
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 2: So I remember, Okay, good, good, yeah good. I'm honestly

1285
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: I'm picturing you doing it, and I'm like that nice.

1286
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 2: I'm picturing you. I'm literally picturing you right now riding

1287
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: your bike through a suburb of Dallas, looking breathing fresh air,

1288
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: and I'm like that sounds really nice. So it's I'm

1289
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: doing I'll do it for you right now in this moment.

1290
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 4: Wow, I appreciate that.

1291
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1292
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go.

1293
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 4: Jacob, other than just do it? I guess that'd be it.

1294
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,520
Speaker 2: They have a good one.

1295
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 4: Get bless you.

1296
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: I go enjoy your bike ride. Man, I'm living vicariously

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Speaker 2: through you on your back. Well, I guess I don't

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Speaker 2: have to. I'm gonna after this, I'm gonna probably I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna walk outside of my apartments and I'm gonna walk

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Speaker 2: around and I'm gonna do the thing that I just

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Speaker 2: told you to do, because I just told you to

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Speaker 2: do a very hippie bullshit thing. And so I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: when I'm walking outside of my apartment today, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be I'm gonna be like, Okay, i gotta do the

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Speaker 2: hippi bullshit thing that I just told that guy on

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Speaker 2: the phone to do, where I'm gonna be like soaking

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Speaker 2: up the psychedelic experience of walking outside. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: do this. You've inspired me today, Jacob.

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Speaker 4: Great sounds like a plan. We both got something to

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Speaker 4: do today.

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Speaker 2: I liked it all right, I'll talk. I'll talk to you, uh,

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Speaker 2: maybe never again, and maybe in the astral realm.

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Speaker 4: If you come back to Dallas, I'll talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Have a good one, Jacob, all right bye, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing it. I'm taking a walk. I'm gonna walk

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Speaker 2: right now. This is the end of the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna go outside and take a walk. If

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Speaker 2: you're listening to this, maybe you can go outside and

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Speaker 2: take a walk. Uh, and we can all walk around together.

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Speaker 2: And then Die goes on the line taking your phone

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Speaker 2: calls every night.

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Speaker 7: Deacon goes doing his eye's teaching you a loud in

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Speaker 7: the memory line, but he's not an expert.