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Speaker 1: in grade school, probably stopped that in about fourth grade.

427
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we would get these weird like

428
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: briefs every year, like, hey, guys, here's what's gonna happen.

429
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a nuclear blast. If you're looking at it,

430
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna go blind and it's gonna you know, rip

431
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: your skin off and you'll be dead. So don't worry

432
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: about it, but get under your desk. And uh, you know,

433
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean this is kind of ship we had to

434
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: do when I was in like second or fourth grade,

435
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: and uh. Um, so that's the kind of junk they're

436
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: going through now. They're just like rehashing the ship that

437
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: we told people during the Cold War. And um, but

438
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, part of part I guess the social angle

439
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: of that is that they want everybody to be aware

440
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: of what could happen, what's what? What is you know

441
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: potentially in the horizon. I don't think anybody thinks Japan

442
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: is gonna actually get nuked, um, but socially they want

443
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: to the information out to everybody, all the civilians. It's

444
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: also weird the way information gets passed out in Japan.

445
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean mentioned this in the article, and I can't

446
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: remember if I if I did or not, but uh,

447
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: so you you actually in a Japanese house or apartment,

448
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: you have a speaker box on your wall, exactly like

449
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: the speaker box you had in your classrooms in school,

450
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: like growing up. And uh it's a speaker box, and

451
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: that ship is attached to um like whatever village or

452
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: town you're in. So even though you will get a

453
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: notice on your cell phone instantly the moment any any

454
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: anything happens in your area, it's like an amberriller. Your

455
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: your phone will go heywire, It'll give you a quick

456
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: blurb about what's going on and what you need to do.

457
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: And um, I used to get those for earthquakes and

458
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: and shoot all the time. And I haven't in a while,

459
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: but so so the speaker box on your wall. This

460
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: is for the cats that don't have smartphones, and the

461
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: exact same message will be spoken out over that speaker box.

462
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: And you can't even turn that thing off, like well,

463
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: at least none of the ones I've ever had, Like

464
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: I had to get in and like take the wires

465
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: out and and just disconnected thing. But there's no switches

466
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: on it. And it's so the community can disseminate information

467
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: out to the to the citizens in that community. And

468
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: that's nothing. We don't have anything like that here. You know,

469
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: if your TV isn't on and your radio isn't on, uh,

470
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: you basically don't get any any information unless you get

471
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: like a tweet or something like that. Well we have,

472
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, the phone alerts as you mentioned, because it

473
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: has happened every now and again we get we get

474
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: it for like an amber alert, which most of the time,

475
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I understand why they do it, but yeah,

476
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: and you know it's it's it's one of those things.

477
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: But there's no way. I don't think in the States,

478
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be any possible way. People would be like, yeah, sure,

479
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: you can put a speaker in my kitchen, you know,

480
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna say that, you know, we

481
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: do have that what's the Amazon thing that people are buying,

482
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: um where it records what you're saying in your commands

483
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: and all that. Yeah, yeah, yes, I mean you wouldn't

484
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: but yeah that and you wouldn't think that if you

485
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: if you knew what an iPhone was capable of ten

486
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: years ago, and you explain it to the average American

487
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: of and be able to track your where you are, um,

488
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's able to identify your voice and your fingerprint.

489
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that most Americans would be on board,

490
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: but we solely get conditioned to more and more overreach,

491
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: whether it's by government or by private companies like Apple,

492
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: right right, yeah, and and so I think I had

493
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: mentioned in the article about how so um you will

494
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: get an A on your phone based on your location,

495
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: so even if you know, even if I'm out of

496
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: my area, I mean Japanese cell phones don't really have

497
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: area codes, but you do have a number sort of

498
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: based on where you got your phone, where you've registered

499
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: your phone, And so I could be hell and gone

500
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: from the place I got my phone, you know, like

501
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: I could be down in Tokyo or something. And if

502
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: there's some emergency in Tokyo, they know I'm in Tokyo, right,

503
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: They know that my device is in an area, and

504
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: so if there's some kind of emergency in Tokyo, I

505
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: will get an alert saying like, hey man, you're at

506
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: this location. You need to get the hell out of there,

507
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: or you need to go to this place or whatever

508
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: it is. Um. It's also interesting because I could set

509
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: the language preference. I don't know how many languages you

510
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: can choose from. I just set mind to English. So

511
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: when it prompts me, when I get a a it

512
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: beets and buzzes and goes crazy, and then I've got

513
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: a text and that text will be in English because

514
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: I set my language preference to English. And uh so, yeah,

515
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean like they know. I don't think there's any

516
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's possible, I guess, to use that stuff

517
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: for nefarious aims, but uh it's it's crazy to me

518
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: that I can. I can disengage the locations function on

519
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: my phone in Japan, and yet the emergency system knows

520
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: exactly where I am. Yeah, and Amazon Echo was what

521
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I was talking about, by the way, So that's right. Yeah,

522
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: I was against like Juno or Echo or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,

523
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: So I was looking through the article and it seems

524
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: like your analysis is basically that North Korea is most

525
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: likely not a threat to the US or Japan, and

526
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: that the biggest threat that they are is really to

527
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: South Korea. Right, Uh yeah, I mean basically, I think

528
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: I think it's so it's very very very probable that um,

529
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: I guess in the intelligence community, I would that I

530
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: could assess with high confidence, right him, I'm pretty damn

531
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: sure that that North Korea doesn't really have the wherewithal

532
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: to really affect America the way we say they are.

533
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: So I guess that's start of work in North Korean

534
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: doctrine the first time, like before the gut Um. So

535
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: when you would go through the Infel schools, at least

536
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: in the army, it kind of circulate each cycles through

537
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: and each class would have like a different doctrine or whatever.

538
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: And so I learned North Korean doctrine, and that's that's

539
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: how I learned how to analyze and do order battle

540
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: and and and learn how to plug US forces against

541
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: uh you know whatever, tim plate force and my tim

542
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: plate force with North Korea. So we do all these

543
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: briefs and learn else bullshit about North Korea. This was

544
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: back in like the late nineties, early two thousands, and

545
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: so even then, like we we learned, I mean, it

546
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: wasn't anything sensitive or anything like that. We we learned

547
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: that North Korea had what back then was called NBC

548
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: right nuclear biological chemical um agents that they could engage

549
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: the battle space with. And but they didn't have delivered.

550
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: They didn't have launch. They don't have an air force

551
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: that can fly out here and drop a bomb on somebody.

552
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: They don't have launch capability to get a missile over

553
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: or anything like that. And uh, and I did a

554
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, it was one of my practice briefs when

555
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: I learned how to brief you know, decision makers and

556
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: ship like that. And I did a practice brief on

557
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: how I assessed that the North Koreans were never going

558
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: to try to drop a bomb on anybody or launch

559
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: anything any anywhere. Uh, they were gonna man carry uh

560
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: some dirty ass nuke or KIM or bio agent in

561
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: the backpack um because that was their most likely Uh

562
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: that's the that was the most likely delivery system. They

563
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: don't have, you know, they've got submarines. I think they're

564
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: leasing like diesel submarines and ship that we used during

565
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: World War Two. And uh so, so it isn't like

566
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, they're they're fourteen fifteen time zones

567
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: away from from the United States unless you're talking Hawaii

568
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: or Alaska. But if you want to hit like a

569
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: real serious, serious target, I mean you're looking at some

570
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: place like, uh, like the Seattle Tacoma area, or like

571
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: Frisco Bay something like that. If you get any further

572
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: stuff from that, you're dealing with a greater distance just

573
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: becomes implausible. Um. And it's the same it's the same

574
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: thing for Japan. I don't think that the North Koreans

575
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: are gonna nuke anybody. I don't think they're gonna launch

576
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: the missile personally. Um, I think all this launched bullshit

577
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: is just it's like we're watching a magic trick and

578
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: and this all this launched bullshit is the hand we're

579
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be looking at while they do the other

580
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: magic trick, like the actual magic trick with their other hands,

581
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: and uh and then it's all this launched things. It's

582
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: all bullshit. They don't have reached we've got like Egist

583
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: class response systems uh that can that can knock. I

584
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: mean I did an article about the Japanese and United

585
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: States working on a program together somewhere between Hawaii and

586
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: Japan where they entered one ship uh, acquired, tracked, intercepted,

587
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: and neutralized fucking I cb M in order. That was

588
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: the first time as far as I know, uh, you know,

589
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: according to the reports, and so that was the first

590
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: time in human history that anybody had done that. Um,

591
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: we can do that with other assets, but this was

592
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: a ship born UM response system. And so I mean,

593
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: we have those Agis class ships uh around in that area. So,

594
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody, I think any of your

595
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: your air defense artillery dudes and your missile defense guys

596
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: are all like, there's there's just no fucking way that

597
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: the North Koreans can launch a missile here and affect

598
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: any damage because we have you know, overlapping systems that

599
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: that we designed to counter Russian high c b M

600
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: s in the sixties and seventies, which your damn site

601
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: tougher than what the Koreans have now. Um, the Japanese

602
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: even have those missile defense systems and the Koreans know

603
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: that ship, so they're not gonna waste their time launching

604
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: shot a Japan. The Japanese and the Americans know that

605
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: North Korean's uh infult rate like ingress egress Japan all

606
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: the time. They find a little mini subs and a

607
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: little mini subtracts and shipped off the off the coast

608
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: just underneath the ocean. So it would be easier for

609
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: the North Koreans to use their nineties era SDV swimmer

610
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: delivery vehicle, a real mini sub thing to shoot a

611
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: couple of guys over to Japan, studdle that ship off shore,

612
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: walk into the nearest metropolitan area, and pop their dirty

613
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: backpack like that. I mean, that's that's like bargain basement

614
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: prices for for absolute return and uh so yeah, that

615
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: that that's what I think. I think all this launched

616
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: stuff is just bullshit. And uh the fact that we

617
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: don't concentrate openly, I guess on the larger issues, like

618
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: the fact that North Korea doesn't have a delivery for

619
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It's it's kind of insane to me,

620
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: which leads us back to what I said about like

621
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: the North Korea, South Korea, North Korea exists almost entirely

622
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: because South Korea exists. South Korea exists militarily, um almost

623
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: entirely because North Korea exists. The only reason those two

624
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: fucking places or things on the on the game grid

625
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: is essentially account of the other one. And I said

626
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: in my in my article about SEC Dept. Mattis going

627
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: to East Asia. I mean, the dude spent like a

628
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: number of hours, just hours in South Korea, and he

629
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: essentially just gave him a thumbs up and told them

630
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: to maintain status quo. Then he hopped across the pond

631
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: to Japan and was like dealing with with global strategy UH,

632
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: involving partnerships with Japan and increasing their regional influence and

633
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: their global influence. And when when you look at that

634
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, you see where he's investing his time

635
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: because he's expecting a return. He didn't invest any time

636
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: in South Korea because they're not going to be able

637
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: to do anything um outside of being able to counter

638
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: a North Korean threat UM. And that's really all North

639
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: Korea can funk with. They know they can hit South Korea.

640
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: They know that when the ship hits the fan, and

641
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: they're just trying to start bodies. They're absolute best option

642
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: is to hit South Korea. And everybody in South Korea

643
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: knows that. I mean, if you ever, you know, it's

644
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: not a deployment, but it's a no a company tour,

645
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: if you um, if you ever, if you're ever stationed

646
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: in South Korea, they cover all that bullshit with you.

647
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, guys, here's the you know, standard shape,

648
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: here's how we respond. Here how they respond. And you know,

649
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: two days later, the whole fucking peninsula is a smoldering

650
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: mass and everybody from all over the planets coming there

651
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: to pick up the pieces. But that was not a

652
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: short answer. I'm sorry. It was good though, very informative. Thanks. Hey,

653
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: what's the reason? What do you think the reason is

654
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: for them posturing like this though? What's the gain and

655
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: them showing like this, uh strength of force and you know,

656
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: doing these missile tests. What's for them to gain in

657
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: this besides us looking at them harder and uh, you

658
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: know under a microscope. Yeah, that's actually a fantastic question.

659
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: And and and it's it's one that I've out about.

660
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know. So, so technically the leader

661
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: of North Korea is still the current dude's grandfather. I mean,

662
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: even though he's dead and his father's dead. Ship like that, Um,

663
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: if they still look at that guy as being the leader.

664
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know, you know, I don't

665
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: know if if the current Kim, like you would think

666
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: he would want to maintain his statu well, like I

667
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: got all this ship, I got all this free stuff

668
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: and not for work, like people are still starting with

669
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: Big dew um. So you know, they're they're to the

670
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: point now where they're pissing off their only friend on

671
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: the planet, which is China. You know, China has abstained

672
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: from voting against him or for them in you and

673
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: Security Council resolutions and ship like that. You know, they're

674
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: not buying a call anymore. Um. So like you know,

675
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: like I said about the magic trick thing, My my

676
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: only guess is that they're doing something else under the radar.

677
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: And they're doing all this posture and like show of

678
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: forced bullshit, all these like effects, these these these battle

679
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: space effects. They're doing all this bullshit to get everybody

680
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: specifically to focus in on that. You know, they keep

681
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: saying they got news and maybe they do and maybe

682
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: they don't, and but as long as we're hyper focused

683
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: in on on that, then we're not paying attention to,

684
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: uh to you know, whatever the hell else it is

685
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: they're doing. Um, I haven't followed up on this fact

686
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: in a while, and I'm meant to do that. But uh,

687
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and Andrew, you you may remember this,

688
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: so a few years ago, I don't remember exactly what

689
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: it is North Korea. I mean, it's like some kind

690
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: of hump for Red October ship North Korea pops up

691
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, guys, uh, sorry to bother everybody,

692
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: but we've lost one of our submarines in the Pacific,

693
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: and and everybody laughed, ha ha. They lost to stop

694
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: you guys or you know brookies, And I mean even

695
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: even our like the pay come all the dudes and

696
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: uh in like the Pacific Sleep. It was a joke.

697
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: No kreal lost the sub. They don't know where it is,

698
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: ha ha. And and I asked the question at the time.

699
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: I was like, who do we know where it is?

700
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: And he was like no, It's like, so, how is

701
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: that a joke? Those guys come to us and tell

702
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: us that they lost a sub. We don't know where

703
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: this sub is? And and so now I you know,

704
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of back to what I said, Now we have

705
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: a delivery system here, like they can part fucking submarine

706
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: anywhere around the Paciftic they can get there. And if

707
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: they're running diesel subs, I mean I realized those things

708
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: are like whack antiquated and ship like that. But if

709
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I understand correctly, I'm not a navy guy. We've got

710
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: a couple of Navy dudes, you know, on staff or

711
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: software and stuff. But yeah, yeah, well you know, we

712
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: got a couple of Navy dues. You can probably and

713
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: especially uh coreyolanis is Is, he probably knows a lot

714
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: more about sub ship than I do. But but if

715
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: I understand correctly, with a diesel sub you can basically

716
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: up that fucker off and it will sit there and

717
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: it's just a fixture in the subaquatic landscape and you

718
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: can't sense that it's there because it's not making any noise. Um.

719
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: And uh so they can be sneaky. They're old and shitty,

720
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: but they can be sneaky. And so so that's one

721
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: of those things like you say that so five years

722
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: ago they lost Stuffer, however long ago it was. And

723
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: then now you know, phase two or three or four

724
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: of whatever they're doing is it's like, okay, dudes, let's

725
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: amp up these fake ass missile tests or let's let's

726
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: amp up these these fake as nuke tests or real ones.

727
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they're fake or real. It's it's

728
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: a show's show a force to get us specifically to

729
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: focus in on what they're doing. And you know, that's

730
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: the thing about it being nuke. Whether they got nukes

731
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: or not, it's not important. They know that if they say, hey,

732
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: we got nukes and we got launched, that is the

733
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: number one card they can throw on the table that

734
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: absolutely everyone is going to hyper focus on. If they

735
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: showed up and said, hey, guys, we've got we've got

736
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: a North Korean equivalent to the A ten or whatever

737
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: it is, Hey guys, we've got you know, we've got

738
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: massive cyber capability. Now a few people would look at

739
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: me like, hey, that's pretty cool. But you say, you

740
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: throw the nuke word out on the table, and like

741
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: everybody's paying attention. Everyone's hyper focused in on that um.

742
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: And you know, regionally, North Korea has always been that

743
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: that weird ask boogeyman because they got you know, hundreds

744
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: of thousands of you know, barely not starving troops that

745
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: are just hanging out waiting to attack North or South Korea.

746
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: And you know, so in terms of the leadership, I

747
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what the hell uh Kim

748
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: dictator Kim has uh in store or if he's got

749
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, some top level generals that are making these

750
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: kind of weird ass decisions. I can't imagine that the

751
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: dude is that savvy with this as making process. Somebody

752
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: probably rolls up to him and it's like, hey, bro,

753
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, and he throws him the thumbs up.

754
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: It's like, cool, I don't know about politics or military,

755
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: so you do it. I'm gonna get my haircut, um,

756
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean you know so so the kid,

757
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you went to military school

758
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Like he doesn't know anything if

759
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: he's a figurehead and so so I can't imagine that

760
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: he's actually making decisions. But at the same time, Uh,

761
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: he's the first fucking dude in that country that will

762
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, steed top level generals two dogs or

763
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, execute top level generals with fucking any aircraft guns,

764
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: like the dude does weird ship. Yeah, I mean it's

765
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: it's it's weird. But but I mean I completely, I completely,

766
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: uh you know, agree with your question Drew in terms

767
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: of like what's the game? I mean, I guess I

768
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: could probably sit down for a few months and really

769
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: pour into it. But they, ultimately, I think with that country,

770
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: whether it's whether it's the the dictator calling the shots,

771
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: of these these top level generals and animals calling the shots,

772
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: it's a waiting game. Every single day North Korea exists

773
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: as a nation, they are at a negative. They are

774
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: they are never moving into a positive. The people are

775
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: only getting hungry here. The country's only getting poorer. You know.

776
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: I remember reading a while back that the number one

777
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: cause of death in that fucking country is window air

778
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: conditioner window units falling off there like project block apartments

779
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: and killing people on the road. Um. I don't know

780
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: if that's true, and I didn't really a gut check that,

781
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: but I did read it from it. It It was it

782
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: was a positive source. But um, you know, so, so

783
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: if those guys just hang out and wait and do nothing,

784
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: they're at a deficit every single day. They're passing into

785
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: a negative. So at some point they're going to cross

786
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: some event horizon where they they have to make some

787
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: kind of decision to do something, you know, and if

788
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: if if they start throw I don't know, you know,

789
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: if they if they start throwing this new card at everybody,

790
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: and then the UN Security Council rolls in, it's like,

791
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: all right, fun, you guys are done. We're swimming in

792
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: humanitarian forces. And that that way all the generals can

793
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: be like, shoot, it wasn't us, you know, he made

794
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: us do what he was gonna to. Listen, see just

795
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: the dogs, um, you know, nobody getting tried for war crimes.

796
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: Everybody gets you know, forty acres in the mule or

797
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: whatever from the U N and uh and then the

798
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: people get fed, you know. I don't know, but but

799
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the decision makers sticking to the status quo every single

800
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: day in that country, every single day that status quo

801
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: hits a negative. With with what you were saying, the

802
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: reaction is like in Japan, with children hiding under the

803
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: desk and just the threat of nuclear war. It got

804
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: me to thinking about how I always have heard people say,

805
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: why do we even have a military presence in Japan?

806
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: Nothing is going on there is in this waste of money. Um,

807
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: do you think the attitude of that is changing with

808
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: with the threat of North Korea that maybe it is

809
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: improbably yeah, yeah, for sure. And that was another thing

810
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on. I'm glad you brought it

811
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: up because I want to talk about it was so socially.

812
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: The government disseminates all this information down like all their

813
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: lines of communication, Like it's on the news, it's on

814
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: the radio, it's on your phone, it's come through the

815
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: speaker in your kitchen. Uh. You know, they're talking about

816
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: it in the morning announcements of school, all the ship.

817
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: And so another thing that does is the government. We

818
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: know that the current administration in Japan wants to be

819
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: more militarized. Um. In addition to a number of other uh,

820
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: a number of other things. You know, they want to

821
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: be more economically, Bible and ship like that. But the

822
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: the only glitch in the Japanese government becoming more militarized

823
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: to the fact that they have no social backing in that. Uh.

824
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that the Japanese government is fear

825
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: monitoring by saying, hey, guys, we can get news, because

826
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: that's a legit, although improbable, that's the legit feared. So

827
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they're fear monitoring exactly. Um. Still still

828
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: putting that ship, putting all that stuff down, all your

829
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: lines communication, um, you know, all your channel Hey guys,

830
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: get ready for this, Hey guys, get ready for that.

831
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: The entire country has already braced for tsunami's, earthquakes, volcanoes.

832
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, they started getting tornadoes on

833
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: a regular basis, um, well, on a more regular basis.

834
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: And uh so so adding to that list threats of

835
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: like mass terroristic violence or explosion slash nukes. Uh, they've

836
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: already got the template in place to put everybody on

837
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: sort of an emergency posture. Uh and so doing that

838
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: now at the military now means that you've got third

839
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: graders that are growing up with nuke drills and it's like, well, yeah,

840
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: war is bad, but we've got crazy motherfucker's right across

841
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: the pond that that are all about having war happened.

842
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: So we need to have dudes that can counter there dudes.

843
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 1: So it's not really wolor, but you know whatever. And

844
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: so so putting that consciousness into the school kids means

845
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: that as they become junior high, high school, college, or

846
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: had to work force. It's it's commonplace for them to

847
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: realize that there has to be a military um presence.

848
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: I guess there were posture. There has to be a

849
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: defensive posture for those guys to counter all the craziest

850
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: people in the region. And I mean essentially, you know,

851
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: we keep talking about like North Korea being a bad guy,

852
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: and then we mentioned South Korea and Japan. South Korea

853
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: and Japan have the same fucking relationship basically as North

854
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: Korea and Japan. They hate each other um and and

855
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: so it isn't like Japan and South Korea are ever

856
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: gonna have a military engagement, although they they are technically

857
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: involved in a lot of conflicts, um, you know, over

858
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: islands and ship like that. I'm just wondering why is

859
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: that for people who don't know that that South Korea

860
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: and Japan are are not allies the way that we are.

861
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: Um so uh, South Korea and none of the countries

862
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: in the Far East can along. No uh. South Korea

863
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: hates North Korea and North Korea hates South Korea to

864
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: hate Japan because of the Pacific War or what you know,

865
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: what we call the Pacific World War two and the

866
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: Pacific they just referred to it as a Pacific War. Um.

867
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: You know, the Korean twins hate each other for our

868
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: obvious reasons. You know, the country was one place and

869
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: it's split. Um. Japan kind of owned all that bullshit

870
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: prior to that happening. Uh, Russian Far East used to

871
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: be called Russian Far East. Now it's just Russia. The

872
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: Russian Far East is in on that because the Russians

873
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: were involved in the war with Japan during World War

874
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: two and after World War two. Um. So Uh, China

875
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: and Taiwan. Right, China and Taiwan don't even recognize that

876
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: the other one exists. Also, like the Korean points, one

877
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: doesn't recognize the other officially. So so everybody hates that.

878
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: It's easy for everybody to hate the Japanese because of

879
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: the Pacific War. Um. It's a little more complicated than that,

880
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: because China and sorry, Japan and Korea have had a

881
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: real complicated relationship for about four hundred years. Um. And

882
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: even though there's there's a lot of weird historical documentation

883
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: where the Koreans are like, hey, the Japanese try to

884
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: conquer us and take us silver, and then the Japanese

885
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: are like, dudes, we have letters from your king right

886
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: here requesting our assistance. You know, I mean it's it

887
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: gets sketchy and complicated, but uh. But but fundamentally, everyone

888
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: in the Far East hates Japan. And it's mainly because

889
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: of the Pacific War. Uh. But basically nobody there likes

890
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: the other person. The only two countries that really get

891
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: along well, I would say, like get along, get along

892
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: are tai Tawan and Japan. And that's because Taiwan and

893
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: got no friends in the region either. Um. And even

894
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: though they got throwed super hard by the Japanese during

895
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: World War Two, somehow Taiwan is like, we're besties. Tons

896
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: of these a huge business arrangement between the two countries. Uh.

897
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: And you know, the president of Taiwan always visits Japan

898
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: and uh you know, it's trying to get you know,

899
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: relationships between universities and uh, all that kind of stuff.

900
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: But um, South Korea also has a real problem with

901
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: the way Japan treated them during their last occupation. I

902
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: want to say, there's been too maybe three Japanese occupations

903
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: of Korea, but uh, during the last one, you know,

904
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: there's a whole thing about the the uh what they

905
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: call them, the comfort women, the indentured prostitutes during the

906
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: Japanese occusation of Korea and uh um I camemba. I

907
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: think I wrote an article about it, but I came

908
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: if I did or not. But uh um. You know,

909
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: recently the last few months, UH, Japan went to South

910
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: Korea to try to try to patch up their relationship,

911
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: and uh. North Korea's first complaint was you got to

912
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: give us reparations for these comfort women. In Japan was

913
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: like ship again, okay, cool, um, what do you need?

914
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: You know, like, what do you want? Give us a number,

915
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: give us a price tag and uh and we'll negotiate.

916
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: So South Korea said, hey, we want this much money,

917
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: and Japan said, okay, dudes, we give you the money.

918
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: That ship is done. We're not talking about it anymore.

919
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: There's not getting any more parades, we're not doing monuments. Uh.

920
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: You guys aren't gonna allow riots and ship anymore. Uh.

921
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: And we're gonna put this in the past and we're

922
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: gonna move forward as a nation. You know, it's two

923
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: nations trying to get along with each other in a

924
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: really sketchy region. Sou South Korea legit like cash their

925
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: last check, use the money to fund a new monument,

926
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: and then sponsored more demonstrations and protests against the Japanese

927
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: with the fucking money that the Japanese paid them for closure.

928
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: And in Japan was like, cool, we're done. Like you

929
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: just bought our relationship. That was it. You just you

930
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: you bought it for that money, so so we're done. Uh.

931
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: There was a there was a bit of time where

932
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: all the Japanese diplomats and like military types went back

933
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: to Japan, all the South Koreans went to uh went

934
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: back to South Korea, and I think they've re established

935
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: that relation ship now based on the United States, you know,

936
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: based on the new administration said thatth mattis going over

937
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: there and stuff. But it's uh, it's really a bunch

938
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: of childish ship for the most part. I mean, everybody's

939
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: got a legitimate bitch against everybody over there, but but

940
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: people are not being adults about trying to sort that

941
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: ship out. Um, and everybody over there has done bad

942
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: ship everybody else. And a lot of the way Asia

943
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: works is drudging up shipped from the past, whether it's

944
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's territorial disputes. Hey, we own this island.

945
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: You don't we own this island. No, We've got a

946
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: map it's years old that has that island on it.

947
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you talking about years So, so

948
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: there's not a country in in all of Northeast Asia

949
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: that is the same nation it was a hundred and

950
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, right. Uh. The Russian Empires you know,

951
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: then became a civil union, is now the Russian Federation. Uh.

952
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: Neither of the Koreas are the same. China went through

953
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: a communist revolution, Taiwan, you know, didn't even exist. In

954
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: Japan once it's surrendered to US after World War Two,

955
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: they had to revamp their entire thing, you know. They

956
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: the Emperor is still there as a figurehead, but he's

957
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: not descended from the Sun goddess or any ship like that. So, so,

958
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: not a single country in the region it's the same

959
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: nation it was, you know, a hundred hundred twenty years ago.

960
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: But everybody wants to to lay claim to ship that

961
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: happened prior to that unless it's a bad thing, you know,

962
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: Like the Japanese are are pretty um uh, They're constantly

963
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: saying like, well, hey, that wasn't really us. What we

964
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: were the current nation of Japan that was imperial like

965
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: militarized Japan. After the surrender, we ceased to be that nation.

966
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: We have a constitution and now we're a constitutional monarchy.

967
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: You know, we have a slight republic system in terms

968
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: of people voting on certain people. UM. So again back

969
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: to like the child's playing schoolyard tactics bullshit, Like everybody

970
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: wants to cry foul as long as it's not against them,

971
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: and so as a result of that, no one ever,

972
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: none of the fucking problems ever get solved. Um. And

973
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: of course the biggest flare up in that is North

974
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: and South Korea because they're the two. Uh, they're they're

975
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: they're military, highly militarized and hyper focused on the other one.

976
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: Where is every other country in the region, whether they're

977
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: militarized or not, they're doing other ship globally. Um. Again,

978
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: not a short answer. Sorry, that's all right, just speaking

979
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: on the your background and intelligence and things like that. UM.

980
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: We were talking the other day the last podcast about

981
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: the Wiki leaks um situation and the founder being handed

982
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: the documents UM, and it was believed to be from

983
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: a CIA UM staffer. Um, yeah, do you is it's

984
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: it's been in the news a lot lately. But do

985
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: you find this uh, they're kind of going on a

986
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: witch hunt. Do you think it's going to be productive

987
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: or you know, have you heard anything? Do you have

988
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: any insight on on this story? I know a little bit.

989
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: I saw the blurbs you know, Facebook and just stuff

990
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: that people had sent me. I think, Um, I think

991
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: these leaks. I think all these leaks and ship are

992
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: are crazy out of hand. Um. I think that a

993
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: part of the all the leaks kind of go back

994
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: to the fact that, like when I first got into

995
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: the intelligence community, um, not everybody had clearances. You know,

996
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: you had to work for a secret clearance, you had

997
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: to work for a TS clearance, you had to work

998
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: for C S C I access and like your SSB

999
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: I S and ship like that. And then right after

1000
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: the g Y kicked off, man, they were tossing security

1001
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: clearances out of like fucking Halloween candy. And then that

1002
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: ties into what you were saying on the last podcast, Drew,

1003
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: how you just had access to everything and stuff that

1004
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: you probably feel that you shouldn't. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean,

1005
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: and it's still it's still the same. If you have

1006
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: SCI access, you can roll into a skiff and pull

1007
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: up all kinds of sucking stuff that is just absolutely

1008
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 1: does not pertain to year lane. Um and and so yeah,

1009
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: I think what happens is there was an irresponsible level

1010
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: of of clearance tossed out everybody, and you know, damn

1011
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: near half the time, or more than half the time,

1012
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: Like you said, staffer, right, it's a staffer. It's not

1013
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: even like an intelligence operator or a collector or a

1014
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: collection manager or an officer. It's a fucking staffer. You know,

1015
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: somebody that got clearance sort of based on their position,

1016
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: but didn't get a clearance based on their role with

1017
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: that intelligence and with the products and uh um, so yeah,

1018
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: I mean you can get access to all kinds of

1019
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: crazy shit. You scroll through any of the recruiting sizes right, Army,

1020
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: nav air Force, Marines, and coast Guard, and you can

1021
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: take somebody like a fucking I'll do like a cannon

1022
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: crew member. So take an artillery guy from the Army.

1023
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: Most of those jobs require a secret clearance because of

1024
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: the technology they're working on. Some of those jobs require

1025
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: a TS clearance. With SCI access, which means I can

1026
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: be a fucking cannon crew member. As long as I

1027
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: have access to a skiff, I can pull up all

1028
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: kinds of information. Like I throw my CAT card on

1029
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: the machine and it allows me access to all kinds

1030
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: of ship. So so when I got my first s C,

1031
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: I like sensitive compartmentalized information, right, compartmentalized. I have access

1032
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: to the ship in this box. The ship that's in

1033
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: that box over there does not concern me, you know.

1034
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: And and in movies in like the eighties and ship

1035
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: like that, it's like, oh, that's need to know. Basis

1036
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: need to know, need to know. We'll fun. If you've

1037
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: got a clearance, you basically have access to all kinds

1038
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: of ship. Um, you know when the people talk about

1039
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: like SAPs and ship like that, you know, special access

1040
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: and and and that kind of crap. But uh, but

1041
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: when you when you have all this access, when you

1042
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: just pull up basically a wiki pede, you of um

1043
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: intelligence ship going on in the system. If you have

1044
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: access to your secure terminal, do you pull that ship up?

1045
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: And if you're if you're not, if you're a staff

1046
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: or if you're not actually a person, that's that's jacking

1047
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: with that information as your profession, you you you may

1048
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: not really understand exactly even though we all took like

1049
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: the cyber awareness class and the oppset classes and the

1050
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: proceet class, it's all that bullshit. You may not exactly

1051
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: have the responsibility level to have the right to access

1052
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: that information. UM. You know, rights and responses. Rights and

1053
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: responsibilities are a balancing act, and and and and after

1054
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: the g WAT, everybody sort of had the right to

1055
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: access all this information, but nobody had the real responsibility

1056
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: level to deal with that right. And there was there

1057
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: was a huge influx. I went into the agency UM

1058
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: just after nine eleven, and so I was actually at

1059
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: the tail end of my process, UM, just about it

1060
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: to get in the door. But I saw that influx

1061
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: of just like pushing people through UM to to just

1062
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: obtain the clearances and fast track them on to uh

1063
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, get them in, get them their badges, get

1064
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: them through orientation. And all of sudden you had all

1065
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: these people that were really irresponsible, um just because of

1066
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: the war happened. And you know that the the people

1067
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: with the most like the highest security clearances I should

1068
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: say the most access are actually like janitors and security guards,

1069
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, like they are the ones that can access

1070
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: any space and there's hardly anybody around, and uh, I know,

1071
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: I know it. Uh you know in the CIA, like

1072
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: the the uniform security there, they have to do like

1073
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: routine checks inside the office spaces at night so they

1074
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: can go on the computers and pull up any combination

1075
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: to get inside of a skiff. And and also the

1076
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: uh the lock for the safe. They can get all

1077
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: the combinations for those and they have to go in

1078
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: there and they can check anything they want. There's nobody around,

1079
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, those are the some of the

1080
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: biggest threats and that that's a fundamental job. It's very

1081
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: that that doesn't require necessarily at access. But uh, Ian

1082
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: and I were talking about this, the wiki leaks thing,

1083
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be just I described as a witch hunt.

1084
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: That it's pretty much a waste of time to determine

1085
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: who this person is. It's first of all, it's done

1086
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: with the damage is there. Um, I don't think it

1087
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: can never be stopped necessarily, especially with the generation with

1088
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: social media and technology we have. It's just information is

1089
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: just gonna get passed on or you know, people are

1090
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: careless and things like that. So is it just uh

1091
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of just posturing more or less from the government

1092
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: and just try hoping for this to blow up. I mean,

1093
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: so you gotta think, you gotta think about who's gonna

1094
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: be trying to find that that that lead, and that's

1095
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: going to be a counterintelligence guy, and and every single

1096
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: fucking part of the intelligence community. The c I dudes

1097
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: are about the lowest number of dudes you know for

1098
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you take it, you take an average military unit,

1099
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: and so for you basically for what you figure a

1100
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: hundred intelligence professionals, you've probably got three or four ce

1101
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: I got maybe. Um So, so when you look at ship,

1102
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: like the FBI, it's already got its fucking hand in

1103
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: every possible pie it could be in. Now you've got

1104
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: because the f guy, they're the primary prosecutors of counterintelligence, um,

1105
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, for US, for the United States. Uh, so

1106
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: you've got your c I guys that already are doing

1107
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: fucking SADA briefs and all that ship. Uh now you've

1108
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: got that entire community that's going to try to find

1109
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: this one person. So you've got you're gonna have thousands

1110
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: of fucking man hours to try to find one person that,

1111
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: like you said, the damage is done. So it is

1112
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: a witch hunt. But some fucking decision maker you know,

1113
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: I refer to him as suits. Uh, some suit wants

1114
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: ahead on a chopping block. They want a scapegoat, right, So,

1115
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: so the damage is already done. And you know, I mean,

1116
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, the way the intelligence community works is, uh

1117
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: is access in placement. I I harp on that sometimes

1118
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: in NITIS, access in placement. Right, So you've got this

1119
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: one fucking staff or with with access to all this

1120
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: information based upon their placement as a staffer. Well, lets

1121
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: you take that that physical thing you call it a

1122
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: smart stick or a Manila envelope with fucking top secret

1123
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: stamped on it, whatever it is, that information, once you

1124
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: get it through wiki leaks, every fucking person on the

1125
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: planet with Internet access now has access in placement. Right,

1126
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: So so finding the person who did that, uh, isn't

1127
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: going to do anything for for anybody. They're not they're

1128
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: not stopping that week. The fucking hole is already in.

1129
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: The hole is setting a new sample to you guys

1130
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: that you know that if you leak stuff to someone

1131
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: like Julian Osange, you'll be put in jail. You know

1132
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: that that type of thing. I don't even know if

1133
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 1: it's Yeah, just real quick. I mean, you know, there's

1134
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: different motivation levels for doing this stuff, as you know,

1135
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: for you know, spy or espionage. You know, some people's

1136
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: motivation is money or uh are vengeance or patriotism. And

1137
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: now most of it I feel like that we see

1138
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: is simply because people are I just want to feel

1139
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: like they want to make bring things to the light,

1140
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: make it a make people aware of what's really going on,

1141
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: when when half of the time they don't even really

1142
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: understand the replications or the end result of what the

1143
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: harm they could do. You know, they just see like

1144
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: the the top of the you know, the bottom layer

1145
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: of things, and not like how much damage actually control

1146
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: by releasing this stuff and in the relationships they can

1147
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: ruin with these countries were diplomatic with oh yeah, yeah, well,

1148
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: and I think that goes back to uh, what we

1149
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: were saying about like a staffer versus ants word operator,

1150
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: but like the person who's prosecuting intelligence operations, right your

1151
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: collectors and ship like that. So when you take somebody

1152
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: who who isn't directly involved in the intelligence process, uh,

1153
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: they really don't understand that cause and effect. And I

1154
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: think you can see that in a lot of the

1155
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: intelligence community. When you get somebody who doesn't make any

1156
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: difference spew or fucking leg infantryment. You come out of

1157
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: a uniform somewhere, you know, the direct result of of

1158
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: intel being fucked up, right, it's it's it's bodies, our body.

1159
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: And uh, even though that's I think that's an extreme example,

1160
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: that's still of a possible outcome. And when you deal

1161
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: with kids, that nothing against anybody that's been a college

1162
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: or not e easing schools or anything like that. But

1163
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: when you come into the intelligence community, um, from an

1164
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: academic uh perspective rather than operational perspective, you you don't

1165
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: have experience and in that cause and effect of intelligence

1166
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: being fucked with. Uh, you know, you didn't being lose

1167
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: dudes in Iraq, or you didn't lose bodies in Afghanistan

1168
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. You you don't have the direct like experience

1169
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,479
Speaker 1: that would correlate to you being fucking terrified to dive

1170
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: old sensitive information to somebody. UM. And you know, uh again,

1171
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: I think those are slightly extreme situations. But but now

1172
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: you've painted the spectrum. You've got people at one end.

1173
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like dude, when I got my clearance, we

1174
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: we I remember I remember with crystal fucking clarity, my

1175
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: first like secure brief, we air locked into the fucking

1176
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: skiff and then you know, like unplugged everything, and like

1177
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: there were any hushed whispers about this information and ship,

1178
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: and then at the end they were like, if you

1179
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: ever fucking use these two words together ever outside this room,

1180
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: you were gonna We're gonna lock you in a room

1181
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: and throw away the fucking room, you know, I mean

1182
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: I was terrified. And then then you know, a few

1183
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: years ago, uh, the ship, like I can wicky that

1184
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: ship now, wicky, it's all it's all open, Like it's

1185
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: not a sensitive thing. Dude, I would have never whispered

1186
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: those two fucking words to anyone ever outside of a

1187
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: secure setting. But that terrified of going to jail. No,

1188
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: but it's an integrity thing, right, I said, I wouldn't

1189
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: do it. I swore I signed here in the NBA's

1190
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: and all that ship. And when you come from a

1191
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: community outside of that, you don't you don't have that

1192
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: sort of like weird and doc nation process. And so

1193
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: like you said, Drew about like the about like just

1194
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: bringing information to light. I think that there's this weird,

1195
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: like perverted halfard ethos with people who come from an

1196
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: academic environment, like it's a need to know. I need

1197
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: the people need to know. People don't need to know

1198
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: half the fucking bullshit they know. One of the reasons

1199
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: that the fucking populace is as stupid as it is

1200
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: is because it gets inundated with fucking information that it

1201
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: cannot gut check. There were another The average fucking human

1202
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: on earth much less. The average American does not have

1203
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: the cognitive capacity because they don't have the training or experience,

1204
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: does not have a cognitive capacity to run information through

1205
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: a critical analysis. Hey, this information is bullshit because of X, Y,

1206
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: and Z. The average human can't do that. Well, we

1207
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: saw it. We saw that so much during the election,

1208
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: of how uninformed people were, and um the uh sorry,

1209
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting people's votage for Alanis because you're the Odysseyan.

1210
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: I almost confuse you guys. So Corey Alanis when when

1211
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: he said how the reaction was of people saying, oh

1212
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: my god, Russia tried to influence our election, and his

1213
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: responses basically, yeah, we do that all the time. We

1214
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: try to influence people's elections. And this is absolutely nothing new.

1215
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: But I think we're in this age where especially younger

1216
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: people and academics, as you're saying, I feel that they

1217
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: need to know all the information out there. Nothing should

1218
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: be secretive. And it's a shock that any country is

1219
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: spying on another country or trying to influence their their election.

1220
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: And this is normal, ship it is. And yeah, yeah,

1221
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: it would be news if Russia wasn't fucking doing that. Um. Well,

1222
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm also of the mind because I

1223
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: try to run pretty fucking tight compartments. But but when

1224
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: you've got c I A staffers going to fucking Julian

1225
01:05:54,680 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: assans and giving them like fucking packets of information, like, um,

1226
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: part of that is the absolute fucking lack of type

1227
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: compartment on the part of I mean, the CIA or

1228
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: whatever person is leaking that ship. It's the same thing

1229
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: with like Ed fucking Snowden man. Uh, Like the dude

1230
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: that everything about that guy is almost a fucking myth. Right,

1231
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: the dude stole using name and password. That guy did

1232
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: not have access emplacement, right, he usurped. Right, he stole

1233
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: access uh in order to get information. And and then

1234
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: instead of doing the thing like because he keeps saying, oh,

1235
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, I did it because this information should come

1236
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: to light, like the American public needs to know this.

1237
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go to the first communist country I

1238
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: can think of, uh, in order to be safe, Like

1239
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, that's absolutely fucking implausible. And and and

1240
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: so when when you uh, when you're dealing with with

1241
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: people like that that think this bullshit should be free

1242
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: and ship like that, the the spin that the media

1243
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: puts on any of that ship you know, back to Russia,

1244
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: Russia's sucking with the elections, just sucking with the election. Well,

1245
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, there's a way you can respond to that

1246
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: to essentially neutralize that information. And that's with with counterfit

1247
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: this with a counter information operation. Um. And when you're

1248
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: dealing with so when the information is out there, right,

1249
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: and politicians do this all the time, Hey we got

1250
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: you a hotel room with a twelve year old boy. Shit,

1251
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: they have a person that works for them that spends

1252
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: that stuff, right, And that's just an information operation. So

1253
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with individuals like that, Snowdon is a

1254
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: fucking staff or whatever Manning's first name is. Now Um, yeah,

1255
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: we were saying that, yeah, yeah, yeah, well and and

1256
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: so so when you're when you're dealing with those fucking people. UM.

1257
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: One of the reasons we have this problem, like we

1258
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: already addressed, was that he just brought in like fucking

1259
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: lotty out of everybody and gave him a clearance. Uh.

1260
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: Nobody had been really gut checked. Nobody had gone through

1261
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: this sort of um, you know in doctor native process

1262
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: on on how this information should be respected. UM. Yeah,

1263
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: that I went. I went from literally, I went from

1264
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: TS to T S s C. I from a fifteen minute, uh,

1265
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: sit down lecture basically course a hand to God. That's

1266
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Speaker 1: what happened. And UM, like along with what you're saying,

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: the whole you know, uh, based on the whole influx

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01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: of people being hired from GAT and stuff like that,

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: and these ivy leaguers that, um, I feel like they're

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01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: entitled to come onto these intelligence communities without the like

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01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: you're saying, the training experience and the team environment from um,

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01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, being in a combat arms or any kind

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01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: of military affiliation. I had an instance when I was

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan doing a weapons by and we had a

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: brand new case officer that was out with us. You know,

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01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: we had we had pre set the you know, our

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01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: observation up posts and planned the mission out and then

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we get down to uh, you know,

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: a drop dead time, and you know, the car pulls

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01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: up with who were meeting with, and uh they you know,

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01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 1: they open the trunk and there's all these weapons systems

1282
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: in the back and mostly just some loose AMMO and

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01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: the case officer who's supposed to be an expert in

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: these uh the different you know, weapons systems and the

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01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: normanclatures of everything basically turns us leaves the meeting and

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: and it's totally like dumbfounded on what his next step was.

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01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: He basically had us you know, and we knew, but

1288
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: like this is his entire job to be an expert

1289
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: on this, coming from Yale or Harvard one of these

1290
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: Ivy League schools I can't remember. And you know, common

1291
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: sense is not always common, and like you were saying,

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: there was such there's such a Russian Perhaps it's the

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: wrong like way to proceed with things. But you know

1294
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: some people say, like some of the best c I A.

1295
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: People are just operators or you know, just have street smarts.

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: You know, it could maybe even be criminals, because you

1297
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 1: know that just it's the it's just the day to

1298
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: day stuff, the the blue collar attitude and being only

1299
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: get by with those social skills that makes you up

1300
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: pretty successful compared to these guys with you know that

1301
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: can write a term paper. Yeah yeah, but you know

1302
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: you can. You can see that, like I get and

1303
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: fucking to you, everybody that ever worked for a three

1304
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 1: wetter agency as a civilian, um, they had a fucking

1305
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: person and they're in processing when they were sitting there

1306
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, wait a second, why the fund

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: is that guy at GS eleven And I'm a g

1308
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: S eight And it's like, well, because she was in

1309
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps for four years. Well I graduated from

1310
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: sucking Yale. Yeah. Yeah, but education doesn't necessarily um grant

1311
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: you It doesn't. Education doesn't grant you experience, and uh

1312
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: and I guarantee we we all have fucking stories like

1313
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 1: that where somebody was like, that's bullshit just because he

1314
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: he did this for four years and I did this

1315
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: for four years, I should be getting paid what he's

1316
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: getting paid or or whatever it is. And and I

1317
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 1: always in any of my my fucking monologues or rants,

1318
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: I always refer to edge cation and experience kind of

1319
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: together because you can toss me the fucking uh you know,

1320
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: the coin manuals, or you can toss me the the

1321
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: you dub manuals or the fucking source operation manuals all

1322
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: day long. And I can read them, and I can

1323
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: memorize them, and I can you know, talk about it

1324
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,759
Speaker 1: in my sleep. But if you don't have the the

1325
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: actionable fucking experience prosecuting those things, you don't have any

1326
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: It's not hardwired into your system. It's it's soft wired,

1327
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: right you you have this theoretical concept of how to

1328
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: do this ship um, but if you don't, if you

1329
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 1: haven't ever done it, this isn't hardwired. It isn't like

1330
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: whatever the word other words for, like muscle memory is.

1331
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: You don't you don't have it, you know. And uh,

1332
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: I talked about this all the time, Like I don't

1333
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: know if either of you guys are watched the TV

1334
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: show burn Notice. So it's not a few years back.

1335
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: It was about the the c I a guy that

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: gets earned and he ends up like trapped in Miami,

1337
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 1: and uh, it's got this like nineteen thirties era thing

1338
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: where he narrates a lot of ship and so the

1339
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 1: first few episodes he's narrating ship, and he's talking about

1340
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: like the greatest thing that made him so good at

1341
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: what he did doing his creepy ship was that he

1342
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: grew up in a funked up house. Like when a

1343
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: toy broke, he didn't get a new toy. He had

1344
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 1: to fix it. Uh, you know, you're dealing with like

1345
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: a really erratic parent or two parents that could be

1346
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: drunk or not, could be abusive or not. He started

1347
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: to pick up a lot of subtle nuances of people

1348
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: inadvertently just because you had to live with it for

1349
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: so long. And uh, I mean I I laughed about

1350
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: that when I saw it years ago on the show.

1351
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: Was not because I was like, holy fuck. Like some

1352
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: of the some of the most squared away fucking dudes

1353
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: I know, uh, in in this community or the operator community,

1354
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: or the Intel community, or like the creepy whatever extra

1355
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: ship I do community is some of those best dude

1356
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: are are always borderline fucking criminals. It's not actual criminals,

1357
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: borderline fucking degenerous drew up from in like broken homes

1358
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,520
Speaker 1: or like fucked up inner city situations where your situational

1359
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: awareness really just had to be above everyone around you

1360
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: and your ability to adapt to highly fluctuating situations. Really

1361
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: needed to be on point and you're gonna get your

1362
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: ass kicked or you aren't gonna get to eat that

1363
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: day or whatever it is. And so so yeah, when

1364
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: you're when you're pulling somebody out of any college, no

1365
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 1: matter if it's IVY League or not, a fucking education

1366
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: in my experience in education is an education. Um you know, Uh,

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: let me sidetracked here. I don't know if you guys

1368
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: have ever seen the movie The Princess Bride. There's this

1369
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: scene where that the dudes climbing up the cliff and

1370
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: they're just waiting to sword fine and I'm gonna get

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01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: up in sword fine. The dude was like a guy

1372
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: at the top of like when you take my word

1373
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: as a Spaniard, and the dude on the cliffs like,

1374
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: no good, I've known too many Spaniards. Like you can't

1375
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: tell me, you can't come to me and be like, yeah,

1376
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: I've opted this guy. He went to Yale. No fucking good,

1377
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: I've known too many Yale graduates at this point. Harvard,

1378
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: Hey t o. Um, So as you were responding to that, there,

1379
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: uh you want to hear who just walked into the

1380
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: studio and he's making a surprise appearance. Who who get

1381
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: on Mike Man? Am I up? Yeah? Yeah? Hey, what's

1382
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: up buddies? Brandon hey Man? Hey, how's it going? Epic rant? Dude?

1383
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: I like it? Thank you? How's it going? Man? It's

1384
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: good man, I was just out and about Why did

1385
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: you drop in? Say hi to Ian. You gotta check

1386
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: out the new studio in New York. It's pretty killing.

1387
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you poked up some pictures the other day. Man,

1388
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: it looks absolutely amazing. Yeah. If you, uh, if you

1389
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: were on Skype, you know, because we have you on

1390
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: my phone, would be able to maybe video use some

1391
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: of how this looks. And it's looking pretty killer. Man.

1392
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very happy with it, like and I can't

1393
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: really tell Nick hey Hill he really did stepped it

1394
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: up and Jason Kennetzer did an awesome job. And all

1395
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: the graphics here. There's still stuff we have to put

1396
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: up because we have all the lots of my personal

1397
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: ship over there in the corner. I saw you put

1398
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: that a linement that you know, we got a bunch

1399
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: more cool photos and stuff to put up in the office.

1400
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So you guys getting after it? What do

1401
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: you guys, What the hell are you guys talking about?

1402
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: What aren't we talking about? We were talking about so

1403
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: we were talking about East Age for a bit, and

1404
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: then we were talking about like wiki leaks, leaks, and

1405
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 1: then it was just like, uh, why there's a problem

1406
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: in the intelligence community or operational community with people leaking

1407
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: fucking information? And I just wanted most of that that.

1408
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 1: Have you seen that movie snowdon that Oliver Stone directed. No, No,

1409
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: but instingly enough, I do have a poster of that

1410
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: movie signed by everybody in the movie, like Oliver Stone

1411
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: and Jill, Gordon Lovett and all that ship. So I'm

1412
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 1: gonna I want to take that out for target practice.

1413
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: It's definitely a fluff piece for sure. Yeah, we'll see.

1414
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I mentioned that earlier before he came

1415
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: in about how almost everything about Edward Snowden is a

1416
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 1: is a is a myth. It's just this this fluffed

1417
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: up bullshit, like you know, he's some sort of intelligence

1418
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: community Robin Hood or some ship like the dudes of

1419
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: fucking dork Man like he he said, you know, I said,

1420
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: he stole a user name and password. Uh, that movie's

1421
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: talking about how you know, he was a he was

1422
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: a group guy, and you know, he was all this

1423
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: hula high speed army ship and then he got into

1424
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: a three letter agency and they put him on all

1425
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: these special projects. Like the guy was a fucking glorified

1426
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: admin for the vast majority of his government career. And

1427
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: it's just fucked up to me, because that's another thing.

1428
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: People say, like, well, we just want the people to

1429
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: know the truth, but that fucking movie couldn't have been

1430
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: further from the truth. So if you really want people

1431
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: to know the truth, and let's just be honest about everything,

1432
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna be honest. Let's be honest. And uh, that

1433
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: whole fucking what I've seen of the movie, like a

1434
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: trailer and a couple of clips and stuff people have

1435
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: sent me, just I want to fight that guy in

1436
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: real life. Yeah, I mean, it's it's one of the

1437
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: things too. I think people have to realize it's just

1438
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: a fucking movie at the end of the day. Also,

1439
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: but you know, he Oliver Stone does try and portray

1440
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: it heavy. They lead heavy with the you know, based

1441
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: on true events, but knowing knowing what I know about

1442
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: Snowdon's past, it just was definitely a kind of a

1443
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: glorified fluff piece and trying to make him look at

1444
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: which I think is how Oliver Stone got the rights, was,

1445
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: you know, being very sympathetic to Snowdon in his story

1446
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: and getting into I'm sure you still had to sign

1447
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: off on it even though he's hiding in Russia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1448
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure if if Oliver still would have gone over

1449
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: there and said, hey, bro, we're gonna make this movie

1450
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: about you're gonna look like a real fucking dick. No, no,

1451
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sign that exactly, but uh yeah,

1452
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty I need to I need to watch that.

1453
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: And then also I had brought up that as we

1454
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: were talking about North three and brought up the Dennis Rodman. Yeah,

1455
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: brand have you ever seen that The Big Bang in

1456
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: jong Yang, the Dennis Rodman documentary of him in North Korea? No,

1457
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 1: but I did. When I first moved to the city,

1458
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: I was meeting a friend for drinks at the Grammar

1459
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: City Hotel bar and all of a sudden, like this

1460
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: big commotion breaks out and it's like I'm listening to

1461
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: this guy in the background. I'm thinking to myself, like,

1462
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: who is this obnoxious motherfucker just walked into this bar

1463
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: and just started shouting and and I look over, its

1464
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: fucking Dennis Rodman before and he literally just got off

1465
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: the plane from Korea. It was it was this kind

1466
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: of funny um and we were talking about it earlier.

1467
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: Apparently right after he went to North Korea checked into rehab,

1468
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: which you could tell was well needed because he is

1469
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: just a mess. That one of the funniest scenes in

1470
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: that movie too, because you said you've seen the whole

1471
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: thing true, was where they make that CNN appearance with

1472
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo to talk about if he's gonna speak up

1473
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:28,480
Speaker 1: for Kenneth Bay and uh, sorry, what's up. No, yeah,

1474
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm just acknowledging that I saw that scene yet. And

1475
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: they're all sitting, oh yeah, sitting at that table, right.

1476
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 1: And so they had some prior meeting without Dennis Rodman

1477
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: that were like that where these players are basically saying, hey,

1478
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: look if we if they ask us any of these

1479
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: political questions, let's just dodge it. Say we're here to

1480
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: play a basketball game. We're here to share something we

1481
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: love with the North Korean people. And uh, like they

1482
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: do a good job of of how to spin this

1483
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: and then when they go live on TV, Dennis roddins

1484
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: in the room all these other basketball players, they're in suits,

1485
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: they're trying to look presentable. He's got a cigar in

1486
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,799
Speaker 1: his hand. He's you know, he's looking like Dennis Rodman.

1487
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: And they asked him about Kenneth Bay and he starts

1488
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: cursing on on CNN with Chris Cuomo, and you can

1489
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: tell these other NBA players are just like, shut the

1490
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: funk up, Dennis, Like this is not the place for

1491
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: you to go on your rent. But he's just drunk.

1492
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: That whole trip in in North Korea. It's a man.

1493
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: If you guys haven't seen it, I really do recommend

1494
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: checking it out. Just it'll make you laugh, but it

1495
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: will also be a really bad representation of an American

1496
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: getting to see all of North Korea, you know. And

1497
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: and also these other NBA players were trying to spin

1498
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: it as, hey, this isn't a celebration of Kim Jong un,

1499
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: We're just here to play a basketball game. And then

1500
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: they play the game and Dennis Rodman is down there

1501
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: on on the floor singing Happy birthday to Kim Jong

1502
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: un with all these North Korean people just clapping as

1503
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: he's singing happy birthdays. They probably feel like they have to.

1504
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: But he's looking at the people with his arms. Rai's like,

1505
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: come on sing along with me. I'm not realizing these

1506
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: are North Koreans. They've never heard the song Happy Birthday

1507
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: to You in their life. They don't have birthdays in

1508
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: North Korea. I feel like I got to pull that up,

1509
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: which we can do now. It's a dude, it's so awkward.

1510
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: But to Dennis Robbing clips, yeah, I'll let me pull

1511
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: it up if I can. It's just it's funny. What

1512
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: the hell was that guy even up to these days?

1513
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: Is this just that it's just them talking about it? Yeah,

1514
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: I think it is. I don't know, man, I guess

1515
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: just going to uh, going to other countries and playing basketball.

1516
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: I think right now he's probably in a rehab or something,

1517
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: who knows, rehab world World, some sort of weird train

1518
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: wreck between a Prince video and somebody from I'm going

1519
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: to Get You, sucker. Every time he shows up, I

1520
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: want to see if this is the audio of it,

1521
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 1: real quick, Yeah, this is it. It's just so awkward, man,

1522
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: you'll you'll hear it. I mean you can't see it.

1523
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 1: T o but clap where you will be sent for

1524
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: fireing squad. Yeah, they actually have a better angle of

1525
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 1: it in the uh in the movie. But you see

1526
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Kim Jong un like has this highest seat on in

1527
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: the arena, and you know he's looking at he's singing

1528
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: it directly to him as any good dictator ship. Yeah cool, Well,

1529
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: anything else before we wrap up here? We've we have

1530
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: a solid show here and it's always great here. And

1531
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: from you, are you working on any new article? I

1532
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: wrote this comment to As I walk in, I noticed

1533
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Drew is sick. He's got that cold. It's my god. Yeah. However,

1534
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: however he's not afraid. I look. Also, he's like poured

1535
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: himself a whiskey. Yeah it's supposed to help, right, Yeah, man,

1536
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean I always you're being on. If there's anything

1537
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 1: you want to talk about, I mean, we talk about it. Um,

1538
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the only thing this space

1539
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: that we're working in. There isn't no short candy. See

1540
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 1: That's why I decided to do the calling. Otherwise I

1541
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 1: would just be preoccupied by looking at Uh. Yeah, you

1542
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: gotta come out to New York man, so um yeah,

1543
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: sorry back to that. Just any any articles that you're

1544
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 1: working on your road too recently. As I said, if

1545
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: people want to check it out, the latest is, uh,

1546
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 1: Japanese government issues citizens def con warning because of North Korea. Um.

1547
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: But what's next in story work for t L Yeah,

1548
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: I so I'm working on I've got that long term series.

1549
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: It's like ship. I think it's twelve articles where I'm

1550
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: going over like Ship Japanese like Warrior religious ship. UM.

1551
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: So I think I'm on like the third or force

1552
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: and fourth maybe installment of that. I just dropped one

1553
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: in today before this Paul about the kind of the

1554
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: sum up of everything going on with the South Korean

1555
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: president who's like in jail right now, former South Koree president.

1556
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: Um i UM. I've been working on a lot of

1557
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: ship with the developments in the Japanese military and intelligence community, funk.

1558
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: I guess probably for about as long as I've worked

1559
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: on work with software, and uh, every fucking time I

1560
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: get something nailed down, something changes, and so usually when

1561
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm back over there, one of the one of my

1562
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: contacts is a he's a retired general, uh for like

1563
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: fourth star type general and uh um he's retired now,

1564
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: but he's still works with the Japanese military and uh

1565
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: so I get a lot of ship from him. Um,

1566
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: just in terms of like a lot of the developments.

1567
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: The Japanese are working on the asphibious like island island

1568
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: assaults and ship like that, which is a big deal.

1569
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: They're training with the Marines a lot, and uh fuck,

1570
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: I think the French strips got there for a military

1571
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: like an amphibious exercise. Um. Uh you know, it kind

1572
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: of flops back and forth between the ship going on

1573
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: in the Korea's and then this overall strategic developments in Japan. Um. China,

1574
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean, China is a big, big issue. I could

1575
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: I could probably fucking yammer all day about the bullshit

1576
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: going on there, but it's a really really really big

1577
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: bite anytime you started fucking with him. It's a massive place.

1578
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: But there's just a lot of ship going on. You

1579
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: know that. I told you that we could talk about

1580
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: like a territorial disputes in East Asia. If you look

1581
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: at a fucking action map of East Asia and all

1582
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 1: the territorial disputes, the entire border of China is just

1583
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,520
Speaker 1: this red line because they have territorial speech everyone around them,

1584
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: because they they're just trying to slowly soak up land islands.

1585
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: They're building islands. Um. But another thing that's that's interesting.

1586
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: I guess we can talk about this some other time,

1587
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: But the United States government has just started amping up there, uh,

1588
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: the recruitment of linguists. Um. They're they're leaning real heavy

1589
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: on East Asia right now. Um. There are only a

1590
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: few Japanese linguists in the Department of Defense, like d

1591
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: l I grad type linguists in the Department of Defense,

1592
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: but they just amped up that number like fo or

1593
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: some ship like that. There's gonna be Yeah, there's gonna

1594
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: be a huge influx of Japanese linguists. Uh. One of

1595
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: the things I started doing a long time ago. UM.

1596
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 1: And it's easier in America that it is with other countries.

1597
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,440
Speaker 1: But you can you can do some some predictive analysis

1598
01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 1: on a lot of ship by what people are hiring for. UM,

1599
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: so you get on USA jobs. They're hiring. The the

1600
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center Monterey, California is currently

1601
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: hiring I think it's like three or four positions for

1602
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: Japanese instructors. And the United States Army and Navy and

1603
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Air Force are currently actively hiring. Uh. Japanese linguists to

1604
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: come in the system as a human dudes are signing

1605
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 1: dudes um Southeast Asia. The dodes leaning leaning real heavy

1606
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: on Southeast Asia, so they're hiring Thaigalo Indonesian and uh

1607
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: Cantonese linguists. They're also starting to lean heavy on Southeastern Europe.

1608
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: They're hiring Albanian and Macedonian and Serbo Croatian linguish and

1609
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 1: Russians always hiring Russian linguists. But so that's the kind

1610
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: of ship you you you know, the linguist community is

1611
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: kind of like the soft community in terms of you

1612
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: can't just go out and grab a soft dude. It

1613
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: takes time to train those fucking guys and get them

1614
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: seasoned up and everything. I mean, everybody's pipeline in the

1615
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: special operations community is pretty long. And then with the

1616
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: linkless just the same thing, because at a bare minimum,

1617
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: you're going to be learning a language for six months.

1618
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: If you're doing something like Chinese or or Pasta or

1619
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: something like that, you're a d l if for eighteen months.

1620
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: If you even passed the ship the first time around,

1621
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: which is very rare. It's not rare, but it's it's

1622
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: not common. So so when they're hiring for people for

1623
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: Southeastern Europe, fucking Macedonian. I don't know anything to speak

1624
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: of Macedonian. So they're hiring for people that speak Macedonia.

1625
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: They're they're they're actively uh hiring recruiting people uh to

1626
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: send them to school to learn Macedonian. So that means

1627
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: that there's an eh hour somewhere out there. Uh you know,

1628
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: a year down the line where some team or some unit,

1629
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: or some office or some deak somewhere is going to

1630
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: be working really fucking hard on Macedonian issues. Um, whether

1631
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 1: that's I students filtering in from the Middle East or

1632
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: whatever it is. I don't know the same thing for

1633
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: Albania and Cervile Croatian, those are I mean all of

1634
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: those are low density languages. I mean, we don't have

1635
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: a whole lot of linguists do those, um, But Cervile

1636
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Croatian was big when we were really really doing a

1637
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: lot of ship in the Balkans. But uh, Indonesian is

1638
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: the same way. We just don't have a whole lot

1639
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: of Indonesian linguists. Most of the Tagalic dudes are attached

1640
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,440
Speaker 1: out to o e f P operation during Freedom Philippines

1641
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 1: and U but uh but yeah, so so I'm always

1642
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: kind of centric to the language community because that that

1643
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: really be lies the kind of ship that our operational

1644
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: and intelligence uh focuses are gonna are gonna start focusing on.

1645
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: And uh so I mean I'm keeping my ear on that.

1646
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: I might write up a quick article about that at

1647
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: some point. And uh, I know my first radio show

1648
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: was talking about like how you become a linguist in

1649
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: the military and uh and ship like that, and so

1650
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 1: uh you know that's one of those things. I mean,

1651
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 1: you roll through a recruiting office today, when you leave it,

1652
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: when you leave the shot today, roll through recruiter and

1653
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: say I want to be a linguist. No fucking recruiters

1654
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 1: through any branch of the military is going to know

1655
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: how to answer those questions immediately, Like I don't. Uh, well, uh,

1656
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: because those are all low density things and they're like

1657
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: fucking uh. One of the dudes I talked to, one

1658
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: of the army because I talked to recently about it,

1659
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: he was like, man, that ship is like it's like unicorn.

1660
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: It's a golden unicorn ship for us to get a

1661
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 1: cat for like Arab Chinese Japanese Korean linguists to walk

1662
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: through our door because they have to be able to

1663
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: get a T S S C I. They have to

1664
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: pass the language tests, they have to pass us as

1665
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: a young maps, they gotta pass the fucking ask that

1666
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: they got to get a certain score on their ads

1667
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: and and they just can't get them. So so people

1668
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: don't even recruit for that ship because it's it's a

1669
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just not a big return on

1670
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: their ability to go out and try to recruit those

1671
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,560
Speaker 1: dudes because there's so many fucking hoops those guys, the

1672
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: linguists like the soft dude. There's so many fucking hoops

1673
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: that guys have to jump through. But the soft community

1674
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 1: has soft special there's still recruiters that go out to

1675
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 1: the recruiting stations and the Air Force and special tactics

1676
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: recruiters and the army. It's uh, the store guys and uh,

1677
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 1: but the the intelligence community, the linguist community doesn't have

1678
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: specialist recruiters to come out and do that. So as

1679
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,520
Speaker 1: a result of that, the language community is constantly um,

1680
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, way to funk under their numbers. Yeah, so

1681
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna bother asking for a Twitter or

1682
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: any of that, as usually do with guests, because I

1683
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: know that you're you're completely out. I think that I

1684
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: want to say that that the c and has a Twitter,

1685
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: but I've never like, I've never acted. I must because Mike,

1686
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: if you haven't activated it, there's no reason to get

1687
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: promise I'll go activate that. I need to be more

1688
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: active in social media. I'm like a people person, so

1689
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: I avoid all that ship, but I'll I'll go through

1690
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: and activate that. I also want to say that I've

1691
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: got on Instagram. It's got a few all right, so

1692
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: of it out then, yeah, let me let me dig

1693
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 1: that ship up because I don't know what. Let me

1694
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: dig that I don't have it. I mean, you can

1695
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: probably type. It's got to be like thees are you

1696
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 1: not that you're like I have an Instagram that has

1697
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: following and I don't know the name I am, but

1698
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't um So let me find it and I'll

1699
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: get into you and we can we can do them.

1700
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Do it on the next show or posted at the

1701
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: bottom of one of my articles or something. All Right,

1702
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: it sounds good. Good hearing from you as always been. Well,

1703
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 1: we'll have you back. And now that we're doing these

1704
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: two shows a week. Thanks, thanks as always, boss, have

1705
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: a great day and Drew drinking buddy cuts up. I

1706
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:40,480
Speaker 1: don't even know where Drew went, but thanks brother. Yeah

1707
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: I could cut him off in the middle of talking,

1708
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: but then again with the adisse and that could have

1709
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: gone on twenty minutes if he if he kept going there.

1710
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: I do love to know though. Uh so I don't

1711
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: know where Drew went. Man, he's he was like dying

1712
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: in here the entire show. Yeah, yeah, he uh he was.

1713
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: He wasn't doing too well, but hey, we got a good,

1714
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: good show of this. So I guess if if we're

1715
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: wrapping things up here, we got to talk about the

1716
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: Killing School. I mean it's what a week away? Yeah know,

1717
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: a week away. We're um, yeah, I'm excited. I got

1718
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: the first book signing at Rebeca. I'll be there yeah,

1719
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: May ten, six pm. And then the eleventh is a

1720
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: big party. Uh, kind of a launch party for the members.

1721
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's kind of fun. I put posted up

1722
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: some stuff on my Instagram and Facebook and about contacting

1723
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: the store, and then the store called my publisher and said,

1724
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: tell Brandon, please take it down. We have too many

1725
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 1: phone calls, So it's good. I'm I'm expecting that Tribeca

1726
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 1: hopefully be another sellout. Well, the cool thing about this book,

1727
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: and you know I've gotten a chance to skim through it,

1728
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: and also i've heard you talk about it, I should

1729
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: say through the years now because it's really been what

1730
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: a two year process of getting this thing done. Yeah,

1731
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,839
Speaker 1: it took eleven months just to clear the the Department

1732
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: of Defense Publishing Review Board and actually had to threaten

1733
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 1: to sue him because they were taking so long. It

1734
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 1: was just, you know, it got to the point where

1735
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: I I figured certain groups of the military that they

1736
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: send the book to or just slow rolling, and it

1737
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't take eleven months. It just it should not. I mean,

1738
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: I could understand three months, six months max, but I

1739
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: knew it it was just bullshit. So but from what

1740
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: I remember, you had the idea for this book in

1741
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,799
Speaker 1: mind when Among Heroes basically came out like right away,

1742
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 1: this was the next book. Yeah, it wasn't then, you know,

1743
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: I had the I had. I don't forget. There's a

1744
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: series of events, including losing Glenn Doherty. I've been ghazi

1745
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: that it made me want to write Among Heroes before

1746
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm glad I wrote that book. There's

1747
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: a lot of like personal ship that I dealt with

1748
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 1: writing among heroes, and I'm glad I did that. But

1749
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: The Killing School has been on my mind for a

1750
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: long time, and my goal there is to really give

1751
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: people an uncomfortable look at what it's like to take

1752
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 1: another person's life. You know, it's not the movies. It's

1753
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: like there's a great part of the book in there

1754
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 1: where Delgado shoots um somebody for the first time. He

1755
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: shoots him in the back. There's the guy that like

1756
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: shot at them and ran. It was running away and

1757
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: Delgado shot this guy and he's like, man, it didn't

1758
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: happened like in the video games where you shoot somebody boom,

1759
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: they fall over dead, Like this guy was like reaching

1760
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: for his stomach, bent over and like his guts were

1761
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: spilled out on the streets. And this guy's like crouched

1762
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:38,640
Speaker 1: down and slowly sat there and died. And so you know,

1763
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,520
Speaker 1: there's stories like that that are that are an uncomfortable

1764
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 1: look at what it's like to be a sniper, what

1765
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: it's like to kill somebody um, And so I wanted

1766
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: to give not only a deeper look into the sniper

1767
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: training program like then the intensity of the of what

1768
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 1: it takes to produce a sniper and some of the

1769
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, best snipers in the world, but also give

1770
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: people that uncomfortable look because it's always somebody asking what's

1771
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 1: it like? You know, how many? How many people who kill?

1772
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,560
Speaker 1: What's it like to kill somebody? Like all right, motherfucker,

1773
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: like you really want to know. I'm gonna make you

1774
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable with this book and put it, you know,

1775
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: put it out there, and I think people, I think

1776
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 1: it'll be well received because it's uh, not not only

1777
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: a deep look in the Seal sniper program um and

1778
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: just the incredible amount of work that goes into producing

1779
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: a sniper, but also those real world missions. Um. And

1780
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: I follow you know, a friend, my own stuff, but

1781
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: my friend Alex in the book Who's another Seal Sniper

1782
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:52,520
Speaker 1: all the way back from Somalia to to present in Afghanistan.

1783
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Some incredible stories. Again Alex. One of the stories in

1784
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: the book, he was in Afghanistan doing Sniper Overwatch, watching

1785
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: this village and saw this Taliban guy, you know, patrolling

1786
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: through this field and the the Talibans like twelve thirteen

1787
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 1: ish year old son comes out and it's like tugging

1788
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: on his dad because he didn't want his dad to

1789
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: get involved in the fight. And there was this whole

1790
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: back and forth and Jay or Alex ended up killing

1791
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 1: this guy. And then he gets back and realizes, holy

1792
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: sh it, I have a thirteen year old son myself.

1793
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: You just watching that whole thing play out on this

1794
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 1: on the sniper scope. Um. But it's just stuff like

1795
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 1: that where people don't realize the decisions that a lot

1796
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 1: of these guys have to make. You know, they showed

1797
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: I thought they did a pretty good job showing that

1798
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 1: an American sniper. But I'm excited for the book. There's

1799
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of really intense stories in

1800
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 1: the book, and I think it really answers the mail

1801
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: with what the fans want. They want after they read

1802
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 1: the Red Circle, they wanted a deeper look at the

1803
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 1: sniper program um. And then then, you know, I just

1804
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 1: got tired of asking all the or answering these uncomfortable

1805
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: questions that these cocktail parties in York, and they asked

1806
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 1: it in a really uncomfortable I would never go out,

1807
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 1: you know, I interview you guys, and I don't think

1808
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 1: I've ever asked on the show just flat out what's

1809
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: it like to kill somebody? It's just not the type

1810
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: of question. It's like a typical is I'll go to

1811
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: some some event and you know, some cocktail party or

1812
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: an art gallery, and inevitably, you know, you get introduced

1813
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: to somebody and they find out you're a Navy seal

1814
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 1: and and potentially a sniper, and then the questions start

1815
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 1: coming and it's just, you know, you look at some

1816
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 1: financial douche bag, you know for cocktails deep asking you

1817
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: these questions, and you just want to smack them. But

1818
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 1: in this case, at least I can just say go

1819
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 1: read the book better as Yeah, the thing I was

1820
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: going to say about this book is, so you've put

1821
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 1: out I mean, you've put out more than three books,

1822
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 1: but you have three major books out there. You know,

1823
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 1: you also have the power of thought and stuff like that,

1824
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: but it wasn't distributed the way these are. And there's

1825
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 1: stuff that really separates these three books because a lot

1826
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: of the times there are guys in your community who

1827
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 1: get a multi book deal and they're kind of milking

1828
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 1: the same stories and this is not what you're doing.

1829
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: You know. The red circle is your memoir among Heroes

1830
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: is about the seals that you served and some of

1831
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: them who have passed on. And then this book is

1832
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: like the inside look of what it's like to be

1833
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: a sniper. I mean it's three very different topics all

1834
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: covered in these books. Yeah. Absolutely, and probably be my

1835
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 1: last major I mean I may do some historical stuff,

1836
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: but probably my last book in this category because I'm

1837
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 1: starting to transition to more of that that UM business

1838
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 1: self help. I really enjoy that stuff. I enjoy um

1839
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: A lying the lessons I learned in life the Seal Teams,

1840
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 1: starting a business and applying those those lessons too. Um

1841
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 1: all areas business and you know, professional personal, whatever you

1842
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: wanna call it. So I just enjoyed doing that. I'm

1843
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: finishing a book UM called mass Mastering Fear is a

1844
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: working title. So I'm pretty excited about that because I've

1845
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: had to confront and overcome fear like a lot of

1846
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: people do, but over and over and over again, especially

1847
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 1: in the in the Seal Teams. So that's a book

1848
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm working on. I've my seventh book coming out in August.

1849
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: That's a total focus about making decisions under pressure. So

1850
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 1: again a lot of parallels UH with the sniper community

1851
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: and applying that towards leadership and business, whether you're an

1852
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: owner or an executive so or even a manager. Um,

1853
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: I think that book will do really well. It's a

1854
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: lot of because it's not it's not some bullshit you

1855
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: know hypothesis. Um, you're you have a lot of people

1856
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: that you know, stay in academia their whole life, which hey,

1857
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: that's there's nothing wrong with that, but there's a very

1858
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: there's a very big difference between teaching and doing and

1859
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: then somebody that can do both. And I, you know,

1860
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: it's like at the Sniper program, the guys and I

1861
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: that ran that school, we all been downrange, all all

1862
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 1: combat veterans and have kind of like been there and

1863
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 1: and can teach it. Um. And so I think when

1864
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: you when I look to people that I look up

1865
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 1: to and want to learn from, it's all always somebody

1866
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: or try and always focus on somebody that has actually

1867
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: accomplished something, not just you know, has set behind a

1868
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: fucking death their whole or classroom, their their whole life,

1869
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 1: which is not thing wrong with teaching. I love teaching.

1870
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: We need good teachers. But you know, I look at

1871
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: some subjects, whether it's finance, leadership. Um, I got to

1872
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 1: forget Jack and I were talking about this lady. She's

1873
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: like a self proclaimed expert on the Middle East, never

1874
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: never really been downranged. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of

1875
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: fucking people like that in the world that kind of

1876
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 1: get away with their bullshit and and I'm here to

1877
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: basically just give it to give it to people straight.

1878
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited about the kind of taking that

1879
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: turn with the books Killing School should be. I mean,

1880
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 1: it's epic. It's an epic book. The fucking covers better

1881
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: love it cover. It looks so cool next to next

1882
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: to this Japanese whiskey or in the studio and it works, man.

1883
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: So I know everybody's looking forward to reading it. And

1884
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you remember the Craig Clab, you already

1885
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,679
Speaker 1: have it, so you're already reading it. Um. So yeah,

1886
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,759
Speaker 1: this has been a pretty cool inaugural uh second show

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Speaker 1: sums it up right, guys, some little for me good ship.

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