Speaker 1: With me tonight on the air is a young man
Speaker 1: who goes as logic, that's that's your your name. But
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you when you were born with such
Speaker 1: a cool, cool name, Sir Robert Bryson Hall the second, Yes,
Speaker 1: Robertson Hall the second. But the funny part is is
Speaker 1: that technically I'm not the second because my father's name
Speaker 1: is Robert Bryson Hall. But my mother, being of English
Speaker 1: sent way way back, I decided to just throw the
Speaker 1: sir on there, so technically I'm the first. Thing. When
Speaker 1: I named my son after me, he'll be the third,
Speaker 1: but really he'll be the second, believe it or not.
Speaker 1: I followed that, I love your name though. Your name
Speaker 1: is so regal. It's just like dang. I mean, how
Speaker 1: many people get a name like it? Served up a
Speaker 1: name like that a birthing. You sound like you were created.
Speaker 1: God created you for the limelight. I know. I'm glad
Speaker 1: I kind of lived up to the name. That's pretty rad.
Speaker 1: It is pretty rad. And boy, you had every opportunity
Speaker 1: to to go a different direction. That sounds like yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean growing up was very hard, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So many uh, so many things that I
Speaker 1: had witnessed because both of my and my parents were,
Speaker 1: you know, addicted to drugs and alcohol, and uh, they
Speaker 1: weren't together. Uh, my dad wasn't really in my life
Speaker 1: that that much as a child, and my sisters were
Speaker 1: running around and my brothers were selling drugs and so
Speaker 1: it was crazy. There was a lot of things that
Speaker 1: I saw but did my best to over overcome. And
Speaker 1: you did you have to go through recovery or did
Speaker 1: you never make those choices? Me personally, I was never
Speaker 1: addicted to any substance. Um, you know, I I ran
Speaker 1: around and did a bunch of things I shouldn't have done,
Speaker 1: not so much to the point where I regret and
Speaker 1: look in the mirror and you know, can't stand the
Speaker 1: person I see. But yeah, you know I've I've done
Speaker 1: some dumb things, but never never regarding a heavy substances
Speaker 1: or anything like that, because I I was raised in
Speaker 1: a family to put the fun in dysfunctional. And uh,
Speaker 1: I did not choose the path of of addictions to
Speaker 1: substances like you say, But I chose to be addicted
Speaker 1: to people who were addicted to substances. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: was that was my even in my sisters you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like wanting to fix men or finding
Speaker 1: men who are broken, but possibly because you know, just
Speaker 1: deep down they're also broken and they just want to
Speaker 1: try to try to fix something. It's all quite psychological.
Speaker 1: I heard a wonderful pastor one time speaking to that,
Speaker 1: and he said, whatever language you learn in the first
Speaker 1: five years of your life is going to be your
Speaker 1: native language. And he said, so, how much more so
Speaker 1: does that apply to our love languages? If we were
Speaker 1: raised in a household where drugs and alcohol and addiction
Speaker 1: is the primary language, and we see that in the
Speaker 1: first five years of life, of course you're going to
Speaker 1: grow up and be attracted to somebody who speaks your language.
Speaker 1: And I went, whoa light came on. Yeah, it's actually
Speaker 1: pretty amazing, And it's funny how we can find those that,
Speaker 1: you know, the self really station moments anywhere in life,
Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy. It's actually even right now.
Speaker 1: I never really thought about it that way, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad you. Isn't that amazing? It's true. I mean when
Speaker 1: I went to school, when I went to college and
Speaker 1: never quite finished, but when I went I would walk
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria and we had a multicultural, multiracial kind
Speaker 1: of school that I went to. It was a community college,
Speaker 1: and I mean there were people from every nation that
Speaker 1: seemed like at this little community college. I'd walk into
Speaker 1: the cafeteria and here would be a table filled with
Speaker 1: children and children, young adults, you know, from the Middle East,
Speaker 1: talking amongst themselves. Right next to them would be a
Speaker 1: table of kids that were speaking Spanish. And I'm thinking
Speaker 1: I was just sitting with all these folks in my
Speaker 1: math class ten minutes ago. You know, class dismisses, You
Speaker 1: go to lunch, and everybody goes to a group that
Speaker 1: is identified by the language they're speaking. Yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 1: I think culture is one beautiful thing for sure. And
Speaker 1: you and I could probably talk for hours, having both
Speaker 1: been raised by people who were alcoholics, because that's our
Speaker 1: native language. I think that's also why I make the
Speaker 1: music that I make, because there's so many people there
Speaker 1: that understand that message and and and know what it's
Speaker 1: like to go through it. So I think I'd like
Speaker 1: to just make music to kind of say, hey, like,
Speaker 1: no matter what you are going through, there is somebody
Speaker 1: else out there who hears it. And even if you're
Speaker 1: not going through these things, yes, these things actually exist,
Speaker 1: and maybe your life isn't so bad, so you should
Speaker 1: appreciate the things you have. Logical that thought will continue
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Speaker 1: cancer from every angle. I'm speaking with a talented young man.
Speaker 1: He's a singer, a rapper, a writer, a producer. We're
Speaker 1: talking about music and staying true to who God intends
Speaker 1: you to be. And the song that we're playing right
Speaker 1: now that everybody's talking about seven three logic is so good,
Speaker 1: so so good. And when my producer Janie brought it
Speaker 1: to me, she's like, this isn't really your typical love song,
Speaker 1: but we're going to play it. Oh, yes we are.
Speaker 1: I have UM, I don't know if you know this,
Speaker 1: but I have a big, big, big family. I have
Speaker 1: thirteen children in number fourteen just joined us. And uh,
Speaker 1: I have a teenage son who is battling with depression
Speaker 1: right now. Thank god he told someone, thank God he
Speaker 1: sought help. Thank God there is a counselor a couple
Speaker 1: of counselors that are deeply committed to him and talking
Speaker 1: to him. But uh, two of his friends that he
Speaker 1: went to high school and didn't reach out for help.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, And I wonder if you know they had
Speaker 1: heard those words that you wrote in the song. You know,
Speaker 1: your life is so precious, you are so valuable, if
Speaker 1: anybody could have gotten that through to them, you know,
Speaker 1: I think, um, I think what has happened in general
Speaker 1: is unfortunate and we can't change it. That's the crazy
Speaker 1: part about all of this, because we'll drive ourselves crazy
Speaker 1: if we consciously, if we're constantly thinking about in retrospect,
Speaker 1: you know, what if this or what if that? But
Speaker 1: the only thing that we can focus on is the
Speaker 1: present moment, and is also ourselves and unfortunately all the
Speaker 1: people that we've lost. As as hard as it is.
Speaker 1: The truth is that we can't do anything about that.
Speaker 1: But what we can do is continue to live, thrive,
Speaker 1: prosper and spread that message, the message of life in
Speaker 1: their memory, as harder as as blunt as that may sound,
Speaker 1: and I know it can be hard and very scary
Speaker 1: because you think about the people who have gone, you know, young, old,
Speaker 1: everyone in between, all colors, everyone, And then you can
Speaker 1: think about someone like your son or your son's friends,
Speaker 1: or your husband or your you know, your wife, or
Speaker 1: you this or you that, and think, oh, my goodness,
Speaker 1: you know this person that is going through it, or
Speaker 1: could be going through that you don't even know is
Speaker 1: going through it, could have taken it to that extreme.
Speaker 1: And what we must appreciate is um life itself, not
Speaker 1: those that are still here or this or but the
Speaker 1: fact that we are aware enough to discuss it. And
Speaker 1: I think in society us as people, especially in entertainment,
Speaker 1: everything is perfect, everything is strong, chiseled, beautiful. And the
Speaker 1: truth is is, you know, the people who are actually
Speaker 1: consuming this perfection are the real beauties of the world
Speaker 1: being told that they are not, regardless of the things
Speaker 1: that they're into or you know, you're a nerd or
Speaker 1: you're this or you're that, And the truth is we
Speaker 1: are the people that run this world, and we should
Speaker 1: not be made to believe that we are imperfect or
Speaker 1: because it is our imperfections, I think that actually make
Speaker 1: us human and you know, being humanist about that. So
Speaker 1: I think my biggest thing that I could say to
Speaker 1: you and to everyone listening at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: as you must continue to fight for who you are
Speaker 1: because as I've I've said this a million times and
Speaker 1: I heard it somewhere else, I'd rather be hated for
Speaker 1: who I am than love for who I'm not. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what we all just got to learn
Speaker 1: and keep telling ourselves. But here's the beautiful thing. Once
Speaker 1: you embrace who you are, and once you not just
Speaker 1: embrace it and accept it like yeah, I guess this
Speaker 1: is who I am, but celebrate it and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is who I am. Not only will you find
Speaker 1: other people who celebrate with you, you will be loved
Speaker 1: beyond measure. Yeah it's crazy. I mean, you know, Alan Watts,
Speaker 1: the philosopher said anything you're into, you will find others
Speaker 1: who are. And I think that's a really beautiful thing
Speaker 1: because I think, as once again we all want to
Speaker 1: be into the coolest thing that this so that I
Speaker 1: had a blah blah blah, but we feel like we
Speaker 1: can't join that because those people don't want us to join.
Speaker 1: So instead of trying to satisfy and please others and
Speaker 1: do what others you know, would want you to do,
Speaker 1: you just gotta do what you want to do and
Speaker 1: eventually it will kind of kick on. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at me, you know what I mean. Like, I'm a
Speaker 1: Fannie Pack wearing Rubik's Cube solving rapper like it was.
Speaker 1: It was no easy feat to get where I am. Like,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you know, I
Speaker 1: did it, and I said, hey, this is me, you know,
Speaker 1: excepted or not. And the crazy thing is I realized
Speaker 1: way more people accepted me than me trying to be accepted,
Speaker 1: which is really beautiful. Fanny Pack wearing Rubik's Cube solving rapper. Yes, ma'am,
Speaker 1: that's me. I love you, young man. I want to
Speaker 1: reach through the phone and ague I appreciate that. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Yeah. I used to be ashamed of
Speaker 1: so many things or quiet about it. Anyway. I had
Speaker 1: a boss one time that told me when I came
Speaker 1: back from giving birth to my son. You're allowed to
Speaker 1: mention your baby one or two times on the air.
Speaker 1: After that, nobody wants to hear about your kid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had another boss tell me I would be fired
Speaker 1: if I showed up an appearance with my husband who
Speaker 1: was black. Uh, that I would be fired if I
Speaker 1: showed up at a station appearance with my husband, that
Speaker 1: my listeners would would not accept that. I've had bosses
Speaker 1: tell me I have to cover my tats, that I
Speaker 1: can't go out in publicum to meet my listeners if I,
Speaker 1: you know, have my hair pulled up so that you
Speaker 1: can see I have a tat. And I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what, people, I am so done with being told
Speaker 1: who and what I can be. I know, and now
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. Imagine that from the perspective of
Speaker 1: the youth with the Internet and Twitter and and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, where every every post you do,
Speaker 1: somebody's telling you why it's wrong. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: some some young girl wants to wear her hair this way,
Speaker 1: and there's fourteen other girls from different classes in her
Speaker 1: from her school telling her, no, it's this way if
Speaker 1: you want to be like us, and the other girls
Speaker 1: are like no, it's this way or you know, the
Speaker 1: young man and this it's like so insane that you
Speaker 1: have to deal with that and they have to deal
Speaker 1: with this, because it's not about who's going through worse.
Speaker 1: It's about the fact that we're all going through something,
Speaker 1: so why not talk about it? And that's the whole thing,
Speaker 1: Like just to be completely blunt, like this song, it's
Speaker 1: so much deeper, Like I'm not the suicide guy. I'm
Speaker 1: the human being guy. And you know the music on
Speaker 1: this entire album, you know, everybody, really, let's let you
Speaker 1: all know that. Like I'm an advocate not just for
Speaker 1: mental health and you know, depression, I'm an advocate for
Speaker 1: human beings, for living life, for having fun, for enjoying yourself.
Speaker 1: And that's honestly why I can't even believe that we're
Speaker 1: on the phone right now, because this song has given
Speaker 1: me a platform. Like you think this song is crazy,
Speaker 1: just just wait till you hear all the stuff I'm
Speaker 1: cooking up for the future. And I'm so excited because
Speaker 1: it's just all about a message of having a blast,
Speaker 1: having a great time, you know, you know, riding it
Speaker 1: things to the wheels fall off and uh and loving
Speaker 1: yourself at the end of the day, logic. I heard
Speaker 1: a read a statistic the other day I think was
Speaker 1: in the New England Journal Medicine that said, the average
Speaker 1: teenager today in America has more mental stress and anxiety
Speaker 1: than a person in the fifties that was hospitalized for
Speaker 1: mental illness. No way, yes, way, So the average kid
Speaker 1: is walking around dealing with more stress and anxiety from
Speaker 1: just what you said, you know, social media pressure, trying
Speaker 1: to fit in, trying to pay bills. They have to
Speaker 1: pay their phone bill, they have to pay this bill.
Speaker 1: They have to get a job, they have to go
Speaker 1: to school, they have to get so many credits, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. They have
Speaker 1: more stress today in than the average mental patient had
Speaker 1: back in the fifties who was hospital list. That's insane
Speaker 1: and that's just you know, that's just the world we
Speaker 1: live in. It's the world we live in. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for you to get the message out there to live life,
Speaker 1: love life, love your friends, love yourself, and have fun.
Speaker 1: Well no, wait a second, can we just say yea
Speaker 1: for you for even giving me the platform to do
Speaker 1: such a thing. You're welcome and I thank you for
Speaker 1: for caring. Okay, one, I know you've got a busy schedule,
Speaker 1: But what I have a question. A lot of teachers
Speaker 1: listen to this show, A lot of educators. I think
Speaker 1: our teachers are like the unsung heroes. What would you
Speaker 1: say to a teacher, a principal, parent, who volunteers at
Speaker 1: the school, who suspects or knows that a young person
Speaker 1: is contemplating ending their life. Wow. See, it's so hard
Speaker 1: because you know, the first thing is in your heart
Speaker 1: is almost like their loved one, so that nothing extreme
Speaker 1: does happen. But at the same time, you could list
Speaker 1: their loved ones but not really know if their loved
Speaker 1: ones that are making them feel this way, you know,
Speaker 1: quote unquote their you know, their family, or their this
Speaker 1: or that or whatever. So it's very hard. I think
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing would be too as selflessly
Speaker 1: as possible, UM try to navigate your way into the
Speaker 1: world and into their life without prodding, because we have
Speaker 1: to remember what it's like to be that young. And
Speaker 1: when you're that young, you don't want to talk about anything,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to deal with anything. And because work,
Speaker 1: once again we're told you know that it's weaker that
Speaker 1: with this or that. So my my biggest thing would
Speaker 1: just be just just be a be a friend, and
Speaker 1: be of a voice and you know, of compassion and
Speaker 1: and but don't make it all about them, you know,
Speaker 1: because when you shine a huge light on them and
Speaker 1: you're like, are you going through something, everybody they're gonna no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do anything, leave me alone and run away.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like trying to feed a deer in
Speaker 1: the wilderness, you know. I think my my biggest advice
Speaker 1: is do your best if you even can, to remember
Speaker 1: what it was like, you know, to be that age,
Speaker 1: but not only that, to be that age, and think
Speaker 1: of reasons why they could even want to take their life.
Speaker 1: And it's it is sad and sickening and dark, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's domestic violence or sexual assault, or bullying or
Speaker 1: this or that, and maybe so many things that those
Speaker 1: principles or teachers never even truly experienced. Maybe it came
Speaker 1: from a good home. So it's it's about kind of
Speaker 1: going into their world, which is going to be a
Speaker 1: dark place. So you're going to also have to get
Speaker 1: ready and prepare yourself for that ride. But I would
Speaker 1: say do your best to go to them and not
Speaker 1: tell them what to do, and not tell them what
Speaker 1: they need to do. Oh you should, you should live.
Speaker 1: But just just ask and just be there. That's I know.
Speaker 1: That's all I needed as a kid, and I never
Speaker 1: got it. I am sorry for that. It's all great,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. I'm not. But I wish that
Speaker 1: I had known you when you were a kid. Me too.
Speaker 1: You're pretty awesome because I wouldn't have respected those boundaries though, Baby,
Speaker 1: I would have been in your face. I would have said,
Speaker 1: you go sit here and we're gonna talk. We're gonna cry,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk some more. Yeah, no, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, what are you most grateful for? What
Speaker 1: are you so thankful for in life that you just
Speaker 1: want to stand on a mountaintop and just shout because
Speaker 1: you can't believe you're this lucky, you're this blessed. My wife,
Speaker 1: she's my best friend and she she's always there for
Speaker 1: me through everything, and you know, she's really she's very
Speaker 1: extremely supportive, and she also tells me like it is
Speaker 1: and she's so honest, and um, you know, because like
Speaker 1: your gut and my gut is like oh, to be
Speaker 1: financially stable, and the fact that I'm here right now
Speaker 1: and I have all these things, and I'm so blessed,
Speaker 1: and I came from nothing and I have this, But
Speaker 1: what is the entire world with no one to share
Speaker 1: it with? So I think, I think that's the most
Speaker 1: important thing in the whole world. I can't believe I
Speaker 1: have such a beautiful, suite wife who's also a kick
Speaker 1: ass pop singer and you know, doing what she loves
Speaker 1: in life, and I get to be her cheerleader. So
Speaker 1: it's really special. You are indeed blessed, young man. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you for your song, Thank you eight to five five.
Speaker 1: Thank you for engaging people in the conversation. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. All right, thank you logic God bless you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being on the Delila Chew amazing. Have
Speaker 1: a have a good night. It's so down and Les