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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathansagura.

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Speaker 1: All right, we welcome you into a Friday condition of

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily of Jason Gibbs. Nathan's a girl will

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Speaker 1: show today, we are locked and loaded. You will hear

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Speaker 1: from defensive coordinator Joe Woods on all the new editions

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Speaker 1: on his side of the football, including the return of

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Speaker 1: jadeveon Clowney. I'm sure we'll also hear from him on

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Speaker 1: the defensive trip to South Beach, which is officially underway

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Speaker 1: as their side of team bonding goes down this weekend

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Speaker 1: our special teams coordinator, he's got a lot of new

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Speaker 1: also hear from Brown's offensive coordinator Alex van Pelt at

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Speaker 1: it's a quiet day here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus.

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Speaker 1: Players are off. A matter of fact, I don't see

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Speaker 1: training camp here from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus. In addition, Monday,

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Speaker 1: That's where we will broadcast live from. It will be

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Speaker 1: the Browns Foundation Annual golf Tournament. Kevin Stefanski will be there.

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Speaker 1: we'll talk a little NBA Finals today as well. Game

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Speaker 1: We will talk about that. UH. As I mentioned Mike

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Speaker 1: up after the break, you will hear from defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: Joe Woods from earlier this week with the media. Some

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Speaker 1: really interesting things, especially at that cornerback position. Uh. That

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Speaker 1: coordinator Mike Preefer. Right now, our defensive coordinator Joe Woods

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Speaker 1: welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily. Nathan Ziagura now back

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Speaker 1: with you alongside give a m this glorious Friday, and

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Speaker 1: quite a beautiful Friday it is here in our great

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Speaker 1: My daughter graduated from eighth grade. They're moving up ceremonious today,

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Speaker 1: which is why I was a little bit late. Uh.

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Speaker 1: like you buckle up, who knows where this is going?

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Speaker 1: Buckle up? Is right? Yeah, it's uh always an exciting

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Speaker 1: for especially for both of our families, going from high

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's it's gonna be something. There's there's

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Speaker 1: and you opened up who was did you go Joe

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Speaker 1: we we just heard from Joe Woods, and obviously some

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Speaker 1: the at the end of his presser was, you know,

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Speaker 1: to watch. He specifically mentioned corners being able to cover

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Speaker 1: referenced numerous things that you have said earlier in the

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Speaker 1: He said that specifically that's a good thing. So I

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Speaker 1: spent some time with Brown's defensive line coach Chris Kiffin

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Speaker 1: see those where. In this case, Coach Kiffin was the

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Speaker 1: the breakdowns of of Alex Right and perry On and Isaiah.

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Speaker 1: But we did talk a little bit about the defensive

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Speaker 1: Bryant say he's a perfect fit for for what we

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Speaker 1: the world to see what it looks like when the

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Speaker 1: pads come on. And so you know that's an area

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Speaker 1: right now of our defense. If you say there was

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Speaker 1: one big question mark on our defense, it's the defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle room. And that's it. You know, the defensive end room,

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Speaker 1: You've got your top level is elite. With Miles and Clowning,

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Speaker 1: Are certainly in the conversation. Uh, your backups. You know,

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Speaker 1: a very productive veteran in the league for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And I can tell you Chris Kiffen is a big

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Speaker 1: fan of what he's been seeing so far from Stephen Weatherly, um,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a very competitive room in there. Weatherly

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Speaker 1: is a guy that gives you about three sacks of

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Speaker 1: end roll. Obviously, Kevin Stefanski would be familiar with him.

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Speaker 1: They were in Minnesota together, uh in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: defensive scheme. That defensive tackle typically is a one gap penetrator,

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Speaker 1: and I think they think that's gonna fit his skill

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Speaker 1: the pass rusher in the cheetah package, who can be

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Speaker 1: there when we need to, you know, really try to

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Speaker 1: beef up and stop the run. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: just get If we can get good competent play out

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Speaker 1: of that defensive tackle, our defense is gonna be pretty

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Speaker 1: sick because the back end is loaded. The linebacker room,

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Speaker 1: I think, especially with Jacob Phillips currently healthy. Uh, your

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about you know, j Okay, Anthony Walker, Jacob

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Speaker 1: Phillips and Ciona Taki Taki. So this defense right now,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott and he got to shut out from the

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Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to really become a stud for

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Speaker 1: this football team and if he can step up, if

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Speaker 1: you know, Perry on Tavin Bryan again a reiterated former

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Speaker 1: first round pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars out of Florida.

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Speaker 1: This defense they feel like, really suits him much better

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Speaker 1: a lot of high hopes actually for that defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: Right now, well, it's a big off season for Jordan

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Speaker 1: in in the same draft class with some high expectations

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Speaker 1: and Phillips. Phillips's battled the injury bug and you know,

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Speaker 1: now it's a it's a big season for him from

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Speaker 1: from an NFL future standpoint, from a contract standpoint, really

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Speaker 1: starting to establish yourself as a player in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League they think he can be a very versatile

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Speaker 1: part of this defense. Yeah, and and you talk about

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Speaker 1: the lengths and the speed and what we're seeing, you know,

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Speaker 1: with Jacob Phillips. So you brought up there is a

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Speaker 1: guy that every time he's been given an opportunity or

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Speaker 1: every time he has been healthy enough to get an opportunity,

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Speaker 1: he has produced. And it's typically come at the end

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Speaker 1: and you say, Okay, when did he actually play and

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Speaker 1: when was it? When would he play that was important week?

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Speaker 1: The last game of the season, he plays and starts

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Speaker 1: for a loss, a quarterback hit playing Mike linebacker. At

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Speaker 1: the end season, remember that was a win, and get

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Speaker 1: well there. And then you go back to last year

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Speaker 1: and say, okay, when did he get a chance to start,

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't until the end of the year. But

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Speaker 1: he starts at Cincinnati. Nine tackles in that game, two

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Speaker 1: tackles for loss, a quarterback hit once again. Uh, he

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Speaker 1: even had two passes passes defense. And so he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that with his size, with his length at sixty

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Speaker 1: you know, with j ok there, you can really cover

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Speaker 1: guys that can move around like safety's in phillips O Woosu, Quarramo,

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Speaker 1: m j Emerson who's a corner, but they can play

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Speaker 1: that dimebacker role, John Johnson, Grant Delpitt, Ronnie Harrison. And

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Speaker 1: so you can have a defense where you have just

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Speaker 1: back with some tweets. You can tweet at the show

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Speaker 1: at Brown's Underscore Daily using the hashtag ask CBD. We

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Speaker 1: happens to fifty Uh. We'll talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily. Nathan Sigura not sounding

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Speaker 1: I don't know you paid to bill this month? What's

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Speaker 1: on right now, Gibe. All right, I don't know what happened,

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Speaker 1: Technical difficulties happened, Gibby, I don't know why it's got

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like maybe you should be.

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Speaker 1: we don't have internet or stacking our fourth grade fourth

640
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Speaker 1: grade lacrosse teams to try to get uh an I

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Speaker 1: t banners gibe. I don't know what you're talking about.

642
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Speaker 1: I bet you don't. That's right. All you do know

643
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Speaker 1: the winning Uh let's do some tweets. We've We've had

644
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: some tweets come in here on the Twitter mail better

645
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: at Brown's Underscore daily using the hashtag asks CBD. By

646
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: the way, Meshling did tweet at us yesterday, but he

647
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: did it like six hours before the show, so I

648
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: never saw them. He was Don't you love that kind

649
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: of preparedness. He was ready. He wanted to go ahead

650
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: and get it done, get it out. Give me a

651
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: little heads up, because it gets lost. We get a

652
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of mentions. We get a lot of people tweeting

653
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: at us. It gets lost. I don't want to short

654
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: change you. Manh yeah, Madison hit. We'd be a little

655
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: travel music here. We're having a little fun. We're living

656
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: our best life. That's right, let's go. I mean that's

657
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: we got to introduce Madison maybe to the Friday song.

658
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh man, what a what an apiciallylue gem summertime? Yeah? Um,

659
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: Mr Music at mud Music. It seems like there's a

660
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: lot more camaraderie this year. How much credit should we

661
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: give to relaxed protocols? How much credit goes to the

662
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: Browns player development initiatives? Uh uh? Also the Browns listen

663
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: to j J three regarded getting some yoga in the facility,

664
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: good to see. Yeah, I think that the camaraderie, I think, look,

665
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: when you can be around each other, that is very important.

666
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: But I would also say the leaders on this football team,

667
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: especially on the offense to Shaun Watson, he has made

668
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: it an absolute priority to try to lead this team

669
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: and bring this team together. And so that is not

670
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: gonna gone unnoticed. Every single person that I have talked

671
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: to about this on the football team has noted what

672
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: Deshaun has done in that regard, and I think that

673
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: it has played a big role. They're able to be

674
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: around each other on the field and off the field,

675
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: and Sean and some of the others are taking advantage

676
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: of that in or or to build that camaraderie chemistry.

677
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: And yes, this is a team that clearly really really

678
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: likes its likes each other and feels that they are together,

679
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: united in the pursuit of a common goal. I did

680
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: notice we were not invited once again to UH to

681
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: go to South Beach this weekend. No hurtful, but you know,

682
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: as I said, we have it on good authority that

683
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: on the next offensive trip that we will be included

684
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: and and and I think that's gonna be a wonderful

685
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: time for everybody. I would like to be I also

686
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: said this, the offense has had a little getaway, the

687
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: defense has had a little getaway. I feel like special

688
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: teams needs a little time away. Yeah, what about a

689
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: prief prief vacation. I feel like you'd love it, it'd

690
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: be grate for and it's easy to do. I mean,

691
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: it's a smaller group unless you start counting the guys

692
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: on the coverage teams and the return teams, and it

693
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: becomes all of a sudden a big group, and so

694
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: the guys that play special teams would ultimately end up

695
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: getting multiple trips. Maybe you just go, maybe just go

696
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: kickers and and long snapper Charlie Hewlett, Charlie and Corey

697
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: and Joe and Cade and that would be like a

698
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: little four man trip. Maybe Jachem Grant throw him in

699
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: there for because he is definitely the return of Ace.

700
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: I can see that. I'm fine with that. Jachim did

701
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: get to go on the offensive one that we did

702
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: see that, that's all right, But I mean that's one

703
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: of one of his big things is going to be

704
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: playing special teams for football team. He's gonna be used

705
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: all over the place, it sounds like, but yeah, definitely

706
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna be our primary return and they're gonna they're

707
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna put some stuff in the playbook form. There's no

708
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: doubt because he's an electric guy with the ball in

709
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: his hands. He's made big plays as he did last

710
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: year for the Chicago Bears, and even before that when

711
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: he was with our chat O'sha who was the offensive

712
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: coordinator down in Miami. When Jachim was with the Miami Dolphins.

713
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: So you go back to his career two thousand sixteen,

714
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: he had a seventy four yard punt return, a seventy

715
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: one yard punt return in two thousand and eighteen, he

716
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: had an eighty eight yard punt return in twenty and

717
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: a ninety seven yard punt return one plus he is

718
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: at to yard kickoff returns one and eighteen, one and nineteen.

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Speaker 1: And then you go into his rushing and his receiving

720
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Speaker 1: and he's made big place sixty five yard catch in

721
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Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, fifty two yard catch in two thousand eighteen. Uh,

722
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: he had a forty six yard catch last year with

723
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears that went to the house. So he's

724
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: a guy that knows how to make some big plays

725
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: when you get the ball in his hands. And I

726
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: think that's what the Browns are going to try to do.

727
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: David Kerr tweets at the show Gibby, when is the

728
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: CBD golf outing and will Beer be involved? Great questions.

729
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: It's a great question. One feels like his Monday. We

730
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: can't overshadow things like that. That's a big deal. No,

731
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Speaker 1: that is a it's a huge deal. What do you think,

732
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: what do you think we are seeing right now from

733
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Speaker 1: the weathers as you get into the weather, as you

734
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: are the expert there, I don't know. I'm getting some

735
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: random spam call right now from a five six seven

736
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Speaker 1: area code. To even know where that is, neither do I.

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Speaker 1: That makes two of us. Hold on, I'm I'm breaking

738
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Speaker 1: out the weather. Hopefully it's getting better because yeah, it's

739
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: a scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Six chance

740
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: that's better because it was like rain in the morning,

741
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: thunderstorms in the afternoon. So let's get a little better.

742
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: They were gaining on it, baby steps, baby steps. I

743
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: think we'll I think we'll be okay. Um, let's see

744
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: what else the meckling moments. I think that's what we

745
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: should call him. Is it Mechling? Is it Meshling? Meckling?

746
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: We're going with Mechling? So his here ere it comes.

747
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: When was the moment in your life you laugh the hardest.

748
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I mean. The time that I

749
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: laugh heart is certainly most recently. That six out of

750
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: my mind was when I was golfing, uh last week

751
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: with the kid and Jim Reams and they had this

752
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: epic match going and our match trying did they turn

753
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: into a side match where they were going one on

754
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: one and uh, Reems was down a lot to the

755
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: kid overall in the big picture, and so he was

756
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, make some of that back in

757
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: some credits. So they had a lot on the line.

758
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Reems missed like a three ft put on number on

759
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: the seventeen toll, So now it's tied going into eighteen.

760
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: Reems needs to make like a three ft again. Well,

761
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: first of all, they both had like ten ft put

762
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: ten foot puts. Reems goes first, he misses, the kid

763
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: goes second, and Realms leaves himself another three ft aboveles

764
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: basically the same putty just missed on eight. The kid

765
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: goes second. It's like, I'm knocking this one in, Jimmy goodnight.

766
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: He then proceeds to hit his ten ft put about

767
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: two ft, like barely hits it, so I'm dying. Then

768
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: he steps up and the kid makes this and all

769
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Reems has to do is make this like three ft

770
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: and he missed it again, and I was I just

771
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: was on the floor cry. I could not stop laughing.

772
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: It just the tom foolery that was going on the

773
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: commentary that was going on and then missing these like

774
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: close puts by like five ft and I was dying.

775
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: I was dying. I was laughing so hard. I just

776
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: saw I just saw both of those guys yesterday and

777
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: uh Reems was still talking. He goes man, he were

778
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: like crying, like tears were streaming down my face. It

779
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: was great, sandbagger, what about you? What about you, Gibbe,

780
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: when's the last time you've laughed? Ah? It was something

781
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: with my golf league and it was reh rehashing. Oh

782
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: it was. It was rehashing some things that happened on

783
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: this year's golf trip to uh To, Nevada, the flights

784
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: home and the insaness that ensued on the flight home

785
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: taking the Red Eye after being up all day and

786
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: red Eyes are tough, cocktailing for four straight days. Red

787
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Eyes a tough flight. It is a tough flight. There.

788
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: There were some moments though. If you had to introduce

789
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: yourself using three words only, how would you do it? Hi?

790
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm Nathan. Yeah, I don't I don't know how to

791
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: is he saying, describe yourself or introduce yourself? Introduce yourself.

792
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: Hi am Nathan, good to meet you. That's extra words,

793
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: but the first three will be high. I'm Nathan one Gibbs,

794
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: get back peepa uh all time favorite Halloween costume. Mine

795
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: was based on It's It's a very apropos now with

796
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: top gun every coming up. But I was I was Maverick.

797
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: I had the full on flight suit, had a real

798
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: flight suit that I wore. I got the patches of

799
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: Mavericks patch to put onto my flight suit. Uh it was,

800
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: and I had the hat. I had it all. It

801
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: was awesome. That was by far my favorite. Oh fight

802
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: that was never it was never great with the Halloween costume.

803
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I had great costumes as a kid,

804
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: like good. I had a solid firefighter costume that I

805
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: like to trot out. I want to be a fireman. Um,

806
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: I don't from an adult standpoint. I mean I I

807
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: once in college literally emptied a bag of kitty litter

808
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: and kind of holding it and went as blank kitty.

809
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: Um what I needed. I needed a costume to get

810
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: into this party. So unbelievable whatever, yeah, only okay, all right,

811
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Speaker 1: that's a good one I had. I had an absurd

812
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: robin hood costume that I wore in a college like

813
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: a Robin hood Man in tights one where I was

814
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: literally wearing tights and it was it was outrageous, it

815
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: was hilarious. I wore that to at the first Dully's

816
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: all of emory I did go as a Dronisskis would

817
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: be fantastic. Never oster tech, you never got I went.

818
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: I went a Z and I may have gotten a

819
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: girl's phone number because she thought I was Z. She

820
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: thought she thought, you're telling me right now that this

821
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: I was wearing, like I was wearing an Algowskis uniform

822
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: that might have been given to me by Z. And

823
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Speaker 1: what you're saying is that she believed that the Dronisskis

824
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: for a costume party would dress up as himself playing basketball. Yes, okay,

825
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: um Is. He was like, do not give me a

826
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: bad reputation. Do not make me look bad my friends.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you did not give a I'm sure you

828
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: did not. But that is that's hilarious. That's a great imagine.

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00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: The thought press is like, oh, so the Dnsscus goes

830
00:45:53,640 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: out on Halloween dressed as himself. Yeah, yeah, okay, alright, alright,

831
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Speaker 1: there you go, there you go. All right, we got

832
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Speaker 1: our number two coming up. We've got an exclusive one

833
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: on one with Mike Prefer, We've got offensive coordinator Alex

834
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: van Pelt. Maybe some calls. We got to talk about

835
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: Musburger at some point. We gotta talk about Musburger. And

836
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: I watched the entire second half of the of the

837
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: NBA Finals game last night. The shooting displayed by the Celtics.

838
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. I was texting with the voice

839
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: of the Browns, Jim Dinovan about it. He was fired up.

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00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, alright, so big our number two coming.

841
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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us here on a Friday, Cleve

842
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Speaker 1: Brown's Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on

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Speaker 1: e s p N, Cleveland. Welcome back into Cleveland Brown's

844
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: day only very happy now to be joined by a

845
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: great friend of the program and the Brown Special Teams

846
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: coordinator Mike Prefer and coach. First of all, great to see.

847
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: How nice is it to be in the midst of

848
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: these O t A s and getting to put some

849
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: real work in here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus.

850
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Um well, I tell people all the time the best

851
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: part of my job is when the players are in town.

852
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: So you know, I love the preparation for free agency.

853
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: I love the preparation for the draft. I love to

854
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: watch tape and get better and watch what other teams

855
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: are doing to improve, uh what I do as a coach.

856
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: But when the players are here, that's when my blood's

857
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: flown and I'm fired up. And so it's really great

858
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: to have the guys in town and and they've been

859
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: working hardness. It's been great so far. Clearly you got

860
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: a lot of attention this offseason. We've got a couple

861
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: of new punters here. Obviously, Corey's in town Cade York

862
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: now at kicker, Jachem Grant at returner. So when you

863
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: go back prior to all of these acquisitions, what was

864
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: kind of the message you conveyed to Andrew Barry that

865
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: got us to this point where you're loaded up now? Well,

866
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: I think Andrew and Kevin and I talked about personnel

867
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: all the time, and um, you know, we felt like

868
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: going into last year that we had some piece of

869
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: the puzzle. And and I think the guys went out

870
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: and played hard. I know I'm not a big stack, guys,

871
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: you know that. I think the guys played hard. I

872
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: think we you know, as a return game, we never

873
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: turned the ball over which was the you know, that's

874
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: our number one job. And we're very aggressive in both

875
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: kickoff return upont return and and we got some yards.

876
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: Average wasn't great, so we knew we needed to improve there,

877
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: and I think Joachim brings us that that missing piece

878
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: of that puzzle. Um, you know, kick off wise, we've

879
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: talked about we're the best team in the league last year,

880
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: and we still have to attain try to attain that goal.

881
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: And that's a very hard goal to attain because we've

882
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: lost some good core guys and and but we've replaced

883
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: some with some good young players and I'm excited about

884
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: those guys. And then of course, field goal wise, we

885
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: started out well last year and then faded down the

886
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: stretch and we felt the need that we had to

887
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: go out and get the best college kicker, and we

888
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: we did. We went out and got him in the

889
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: fourth round, which I thought was a great aggressive move

890
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: by Andrew and and Kevin and uh So, to me,

891
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: this guy's the limit. I got my work cut out

892
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: for me in terms of who we play in our division,

893
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: because we got the best division of football when it

894
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: comes to a special team. So every week is going

895
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: to be different for us. All Right, you mentioned Kate

896
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: York and you and I sat down last week for

897
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: a Brown's Breakdown, which is gonna come out on the

898
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: Brown's YouTube channel the Brown's Mobile app as well, so

899
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that. As we watched some

900
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: college tape and then also some tape of Kate kicking

901
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: app First Energy Stadium. Early impressions of him so far, Um,

902
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: you know exactly what we expected he's gonna be. He's young,

903
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's just twenty one years old. You just turn. Um,

904
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: he will have some growing pains, but I think overall,

905
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: the talent is there, the leg strength is there, the attitude,

906
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: the mentality is there. Uh, he just has and he

907
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: needs to learned to be more consistent performer. And that's

908
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: how we're that's what we're striving for each and every

909
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: time he goes out there and kicks, and even every

910
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: time we watch tape, every time he goes out there

911
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: and kicks, every time. Even today, he was just working

912
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: on some some finer uh technique points. He's going to

913
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: go down to the stadium with the guys tomorrow and

914
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: kick again in our stadium. So we had a guy

915
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: named Andy Lee Putter here who is a very successful

916
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: pro bowler type guy. The ball sounded different when he

917
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: hit it, and just being out here the last week,

918
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: I think it was when Kay did some kicking here,

919
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: the ball sounds different. Here, all your admirers out there,

920
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: the special teams players currying favor. Smart. Great way to

921
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: make the roster. By the way, Uh, the ball sounds

922
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: different coming off of his foot from what I'm used

923
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: to here at least in my decade with the Browns.

924
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: Just really drives it. It feels like, you know, both

925
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: Corey and Joe really hit the ball well yesterday. Punny wise,

926
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: last week they did the same thing. They've had each

927
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: had a session at the stadium as well. Um. You know,

928
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: they're both extremely talented, both raw I think as holders

929
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: and as punters. Um, they're very smart. They want to

930
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: do well, they want to improve, and I think some

931
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: of the things we're working on with them and letting

932
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: them figure it out. Like I've told you before, Nate,

933
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: that you know we're not gonna I'm not consider and

934
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: say you have to do this after that, and I'm

935
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna suggest and recommend certain things that they have to

936
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: work on with their technique. Both of them is have

937
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: really said, you know, this is something I want to

938
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: get better at. And they've really improved, and I'm excited

939
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: about their improvement. I'm excited about their talent. It's gonna

940
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: be a great competition this summer. And is that something

941
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: you do You like to see that kind of a competition, right, Uh?

942
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: Is it possible to separate themselves at this point or

943
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: is that something that has to take time over the

944
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: court of an entire summer. I think the entire summer,

945
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: But I think you can separate yourself a little bit,

946
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, by the end of the by the end

947
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: of the spring. Uh, And they will have enough opportunities

948
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: to do so. Right now, I think their neck and neck,

949
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: they're both really they both really improved as holders too.

950
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they're very good coming here um and

951
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: in their time in the NFL, but I think they've

952
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: improved immensely and they're working hard on it. Because to me,

953
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: if if the punting is the same, we're gonna go

954
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: with the best holder, and obviously the best punter is

955
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: what you want. And then I think they're close enough

956
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: holding wise that the best punter will be the good

957
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: holder as well. So I'm excited about both of them

958
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: and their improvement and where we're going from here. All right.

959
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: We talked about Kate as well and his ability to

960
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: hit the ball. It kind of has that pop that

961
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: reminds me of the way Andy Lead did it. The

962
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: way he just drove it. I mean it was last

963
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: week we're out here when he had those makeshift up

964
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: rights out there and he started to put him down

965
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: to nice. I bet you're happy to see some real

966
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: uprights up here as we got this new turf in.

967
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: But I felt like he absolutely can just punish the ball. Yeah,

968
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: he did a good job last week, and and I

969
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: scripted for success. Obviously, we didn't go back past forty

970
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: four and the wind was a little bit with him,

971
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: and but I wanted him the first time in front

972
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: of the team. I wanted him to feel good about himself.

973
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: I wanted the team to feel good about him. And

974
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: you can see that last one, uh a coach of fancy.

975
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: He tried to get everybody hooting and holler and try

976
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: a little put a little pressure on him, and you

977
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: nailed it in forty four yard right down the middle.

978
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: So um, I'm hoping that's uh some you know, uh

979
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: where we're gonna see, you know, as the season goes on.

980
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: So on that day, I was actually back there with

981
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: Brad mellon equip Manager of the Year, no big deal,

982
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: and I was back there trying to catch some of

983
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: these field goals. And the first one he had, I

984
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, yeah, I got it, comes down with

985
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: a ton of forcing. You're right, it was down wind

986
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: right there. So then I finally after missing one, then

987
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: I got when I was like, I'm out like a

988
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: stands on a high note because I was shocked to

989
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: just watch Forces coming with those kicks. Yeah, he's very powerful,

990
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: and he's big and strong, and he's, like I said,

991
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: he's twenty one. He's only gonna get stronger. And our

992
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: our strength and conditioning staff does a phenomenal job. Monty

993
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: Gibson does a great job with our specialists and and

994
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Cab will only get stronger. And I tell these guys, look,

995
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: you're not bodybuilders. You're not here to be you know,

996
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: strengthening and conditioning athletes. You're here to get better as

997
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: as a punter, as a kicker, as a as a holder,

998
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: uh snapper or whatever. Um. But at the end of

999
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: the day, he will continue to get stronger, and he'll

1000
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: be even better as long as this technique, you know,

1001
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: stays the same or continues to improve as well. Uh,

1002
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: the sky's limit for this young man. So I'm excited

1003
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: about him. We've talked a little bit and you'll get

1004
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: the full exact breakdown on Brown's breakdowns. But ninety seconds

1005
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: roughly from the time the ball snapped the time that

1006
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: you wanted kicked. You have a reliable veteran on the

1007
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: snapping part of the operation. And Charlie Hewlett, a guy

1008
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: who's one of the longest tenured Browns now with this

1009
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: football team. What's it like to have that part of

1010
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: it where you just say, okay, look, I really don't

1011
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: have to worry about I know what Charlie's gonna give me.

1012
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: First of all, Charlie's the top five snapper in the league. Secondly,

1013
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: he's a great leader and he leads by example. And

1014
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: then thirdly, he does such a great job with the

1015
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: young players. I mean, he's like a big brother to

1016
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: these guys. And you know he he's so humble too,

1017
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: so he wants to do well. He wants to do

1018
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: the right thing. He wants to do right by the

1019
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: kicker and the punters and um so everything he does

1020
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: is geared toward helping them do their job at a

1021
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: higher level. And he just continues to do well as

1022
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: a short snapper, long snapper, and in protection and in coverage.

1023
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: You know, he'll do a good job covering over the

1024
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: ball if we need him to. Hopefully he doesn't have

1025
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: too many tackles because that means that that second wave

1026
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: is making the tackle. But on punch, you know obviously

1027
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: want the first or second guy down there making the place.

1028
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: But it's really great to have Charlie. All right. We

1029
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: talked at the beginning about jache Grant. What is he

1030
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: showing you in the limited time here, because what he's

1031
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: shown me is he is fast. In his ability to

1032
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: change direction without slowing down seems to be rather unique.

1033
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: Is co od is unique. His quickness ability to make

1034
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: the first man miss is unique. His speed, his accelerations unbelievable.

1035
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: And I knew it was good, and then the first

1036
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: time I saw it in practice, I'm like, oh boy,

1037
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: we got something here. So I'm very excited about Jachine

1038
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: is a good kid. He's a pro. He's only trying

1039
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: to get better. I think he told you in his

1040
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: first interviews. He was walking around the facility with the

1041
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: ball in his left arm, so I'm really trying to

1042
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: break his habit of always carrying the ball in his

1043
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: right arm. And he's been very receptive to all the

1044
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: coaching points and he's helped me. He'll help me be

1045
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: a better coach in terms of how we coach our

1046
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: guys and the schemes we use and that will benefit

1047
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: our team, will benefit him, to help make him successful.

1048
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: Does he have the full green light? So there might

1049
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: be another ninety seven yard return in the future. That's

1050
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: up to the head coach, but that's something we'll talk about.

1051
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: If we know he's gonna have a big play. Why

1052
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: not right exactly? And you've worked with some great returners,

1053
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: So for you as a coach, when they take it

1054
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: to the house and Jackie has done at four straight years,

1055
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? And what what kind

1056
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: of goes through? Is there a pre celebration that I

1057
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: should be on the lookout for ever, all I look

1058
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: for see there's flags and then everybody's hooting in a

1059
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: holler and and I'm trying to get the field goal

1060
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: team out there for the p A T. And I'm

1061
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: thinking about what we're gonna do on these shooing kickoff

1062
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: because what happens is some of the guys that a

1063
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: lot of guys that are on the punt return unit

1064
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: are also on the kickoff unit. So now how aggressive

1065
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on kickoff? Right? So we get the touchdown?

1066
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: On the return game we kicked the p a t

1067
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: there might be a TV time out. Guys are gas,

1068
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: guys are excited. Do we kick the touch back? Do

1069
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: we go after him where we're aggressive? That stuff that

1070
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 1: I think about, and then I'll celebrate on Monday, maybe

1071
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: Sunday night with a beer, but on mainly on Monday.

1072
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: Well maybe after the kickoff, you can take a second

1073
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: right there, at least come over to the guys, give

1074
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: him a little love because you're a fiery guy on

1075
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: the sideline. I've seen you pace and I know that

1076
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: negative reactions can happen very very quickly for you. So

1077
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: I'd like to say that you enjoy the positive. But

1078
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: we keep it even Kilan and see you always focused

1079
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: on the next task at hand. My daughters, Samanthan Katie

1080
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: want me to do the gritting when we score, but

1081
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be able to do that I

1082
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: certainly would love to see that. All right, you mentioned

1083
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: you lost some core guys. Has anybody kind of caught

1084
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: your eye from these young guys here to kind to

1085
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: become those special teams. That's a great ways we talked

1086
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: about earlier in jest. But it is true to make

1087
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: this football team. If you're gonna be the sixth receiver,

1088
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be the fourth tight end, you're gonna

1089
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: be the fifth or sixth linebacker or the sixth corner,

1090
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: you've got to play special teams and you've got to

1091
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: be good. Absolutely. Richard account as a clean slate, did

1092
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: not have a great rookie year. And I was talking

1093
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: to him earlier today. Uh, he's improved a messy. His

1094
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: attitude is much better. He'll he'll have to take a

1095
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: big stride for us. Um uh m j Emerson the

1096
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: rookie in Mississippi State. He has done a great job,

1097
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: really smart. It's big her Miller is gonna be with

1098
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: us the whole year. Now he's gonna have a whole

1099
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: offseason to continue to prove his techniques. Tony Fields will

1100
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: have to take another step in the right direction. We

1101
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: got some defensive ends, you know, really any any position,

1102
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: tight end, defensive end, running back. You know, uh Dernis

1103
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: Johnson is still doing a great job. You know what's it? Ford,

1104
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: Jerome Ford will have to take a big step because

1105
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 1: he's a good football player who's never played special teams.

1106
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. These guys are all superstars at

1107
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: their schools. They get drafted or undrafted, even under after

1108
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: free agents. I tell him, I don't care if you're

1109
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: draft or not. You have a chance to make our

1110
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: team if you play teams at a high level. So

1111
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: that's what we're looking for. And the guys have had

1112
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: great attitudes and I'm excited about you know, continue to

1113
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: work with them. And the more time I have with them,

1114
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: the more periods that we have, more experienced they get,

1115
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: the better they're going to get. All right, Well, end on.

1116
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: This gotta be a cool week for you. Not only

1117
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: O t A is going on, but the LCS, the

1118
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: U s S Minneapolis St. Paul was docked right outside

1119
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: of First Energy Stadium, and I know you got to

1120
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: take a tour. I got to see it. I was

1121
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: blown away. Awesome stuff And as a Navy man, I'm

1122
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: sure it was great for you to be back on

1123
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: the boat. It was cool and last time I was

1124
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: on a ship, I was probably wearing a flight suit

1125
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: back in the U S. S. America a long time ago.

1126
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: And sure she's been decommissioned for many years and she's

1127
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. She they scuttled

1128
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: her many years ago. But um, yeah, it kind of

1129
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: brought me back in time a little bit, you know,

1130
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: ducking underneath the passageways. I'm not as tall as you, obviously,

1131
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: but it was fun. It was fun to take my wife, Debbie,

1132
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: and my daughter Katie was on there. She did a

1133
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: story for Spectrum News and did a great job talking

1134
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: about the pride that the city of Cleveland will have

1135
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: when the U S. S. Cleveland has commissioned here in

1136
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years. So it was a brought me

1137
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: back a little bit. And you can fly a helicopter

1138
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: on the back of that chip to which that's what

1139
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: I really wanted to do with. They wouldn't let me

1140
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: two of them on that. You can store one and

1141
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: fly one and leave it out on the back. Incredible,

1142
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: but when in the hanger, bang put one on the

1143
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: back yep on the stern yep, So that would have

1144
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: been fun. But maybe someday. Coach, thank you so much

1145
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: for the time, looking forward to us seeing this season

1146
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: and seeing the special teams flourish under your two lags.

1147
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: Great job, buddy. Alright, that's Brown special teams coordinator Mike

1148
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: Preef for listen. We don't need to tell them how

1149
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: the how the sausages made here, let's all just calm

1150
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: down here. No, no, it was on me. That's a

1151
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: that's a demerit on me. This is what happens when

1152
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: we're in multiple locations. Is that a demerit on you?

1153
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: I did say, please remind me to plug it back. Nonetheless,

1154
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: that's I knew right away. I was like, what's he doing.

1155
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. But I always love talking

1156
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: to Prief, and I think the special teams, you know,

1157
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: you talk about it. It's there're three phases to this

1158
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: game and being elite and special teams, and he's he said,

1159
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: you've got to be in this division. You think about

1160
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: what the Ravens do on special teams, think about the

1161
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: Bengals and what Evan McPherson did as their kicker. Uh,

1162
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: and then the Steelers have always been solid on special teams.

1163
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: So that's one of those little things that you don't

1164
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: want to let impact the outcome of a game. Negatively,

1165
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: I think the Browns believe, with their talent on offense

1166
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: and their talent on defense, if they can be neutral

1167
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: on special team, they will win more often than not.

1168
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: Now the goal would be to get a special teams unit,

1169
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: they can also win you a few games. And we

1170
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: know when you have Mike pre for here, we're gonna

1171
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: be one of the best coverage units in the NFL.

1172
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: Now you've got Cad York here, we should be one

1173
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: of the best kicking teams in the NFL. That's a

1174
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on a rookie, but that's how highly

1175
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: they think of him. We certainly should not be last

1176
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: in field goal made percentage in the NFL, which is

1177
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: what we were a year ago with Jachem Grant here,

1178
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: we've got a guy who in the last years was

1179
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: the All Pro punt kick returner and and last year

1180
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowler, So we should be one of

1181
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: the best return units in the NFL. Those things make

1182
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: a big difference in outcomes of games, especially in tight games,

1183
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: and when you have a team that wants to go

1184
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: and win a Super Bowl, you need to be able

1185
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: to come through in those tight games, and one of

1186
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: the ways that you do that is by winning the

1187
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: third phase and winning special teams. In the Browns clearly

1188
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: knew that was something they had to address, and they

1189
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: did so aggressively, bringing in Grant, drafting Cad York in

1190
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: the fourth round. They made those moves with an eye

1191
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: upon achieving their ultimate goals and making sure that this

1192
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: doesn't derail those opportunities. And I liked it. I like

1193
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: that strategy because it's not something that necessarily from a

1194
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: financial standpoint, costs you a lot, but it no but

1195
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: it's something they can have a big, big impact, and

1196
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what you actually can probably get one

1197
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: of the best returns on your investment in guys like

1198
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Joachim Grant in uh, you know, bringing in the punters

1199
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: that they brought in and bringing in Kde York, but

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01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: not only that, maintaining Charlie Hewlett, who you heard Mike

1201
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: Preefer says, the top five long snapper in the NFL.

1202
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: And then now we've got to find the guys. And

1203
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: this is something that Prief has done very well every

1204
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: single year, is find the guys that can contribute on

1205
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: special teams and keep this coverage team as good as

1206
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: it has been. And I do think that that is

1207
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: absolutely within the realm of possibility for this football team.

1208
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm excited to see. I think it

1209
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: was an interesting question that you asked him when it

1210
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: comes to the coverage team, because we had we we

1211
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: lost some contributors. Elijahlie was a guy who's a worth

1212
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: cover guy. M J. Stewart was a core special teams guy.

1213
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: They're they're gone, yeah, and you have to have those

1214
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't let the opposing team start at

1215
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: the thirty five yard line forty yard line with big

1216
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: returns like you have to get down there. You gotta

1217
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: cover and to see and that's I mean. You want

1218
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: to make the roster, and you're towards the bottom of

1219
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 1: the roster, that's where you got to make your mark. Yeah,

1220
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: some of these guys gonna have to step up, and

1221
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: guys that maybe we haven't seen before put in that

1222
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: role and have to step up. That is the way,

1223
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: as we talked about there, that's the way that your

1224
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: fifth linebacker, sixth linebacker makes this football team because of

1225
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: what they can do on special teams. Your sixth receiver,

1226
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: your fourth running back, so I mentioned Jerome Ford. You

1227
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: know your fourth tight end, even your third tight end

1228
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: is gonna play some special teams. Some of your defensive

1229
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: ends are gonna end up being on special teams units.

1230
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: Your fifth and six corners, your fourth and fifth safeties,

1231
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: these guys are all going to have to contribute in

1232
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: a major way on special teams and replenishing that group

1233
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: because remember Tavier Thomas was a guy that was a

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01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: special team's ace for us and went on to Houston

1235
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: Land last season. You have to keep replenishing that group.

1236
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Speaker 1: And that's something that I believe the Browns absolutely have

1237
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: had an identity towards and an ability to identify those

1238
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: players that allow them to do that. It's been important.

1239
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: It's important to coach prefer it's important to coach to

1240
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: fan scheme, and it's important to Andrew Barry. And so

1241
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that they one of the

1242
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: calculations they go through when identifying guys who are gonna

1243
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: churn in that bottom you know, thirteen fifteen of the roster.

1244
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: They've got to be able to contribute on special teams

1245
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: as well, in addition to their duties on offense. And

1246
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: on defense. See if I had a cough button here

1247
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: would be really great. Right now, when we come back

1248
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: speaking number one, you are on remote. You can't now

1249
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: this isn't a Peapo design studio. You're right, this is

1250
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: just this is the limitations of the common However, I

1251
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: will say we're mentioning offense as well. That's one of

1252
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: the big phases we will talk and hear from our

1253
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Alex van Pelt. That's coming up after the

1254
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: breaking at the bottom of the hour. As we wrap

1255
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: things up here, we'll talk a little bit about stuff

1256
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: going on in the sports world as well as potentially

1257
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: potentially take a few phone calls here to wrap up

1258
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 1: our week as we get ready for the final week

1259
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: of the O T s Peeple shaking his head. Maybe not,

1260
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: maybe we won't do it. I'm not afraid. I don't know.

1261
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: We're having some phone issues. Okay, alright, people just telling

1262
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: it like it is. Alex van Pelt coming up next,

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01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,840
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Speaker 1: of the family. Visit www dot rum key dot com

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Speaker 1: to learn more from Earlier this week at the podium,

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Speaker 1: we have Brown's offensive coordinator Alex van Pelt. I was

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Speaker 1: looking improve next season, just the details of of I

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Speaker 1: think catching the ball, I think some of the you know,

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Speaker 1: he has really good hands at times, but just finishing

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Speaker 1: the plays and um, you know, the route development, especially

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Speaker 1: on plays when we has to break down and make cuts.

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Speaker 1: David's really fast, really good straight line runners, So improvement

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Speaker 1: in his route running ability when he's not doing those things.

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Speaker 1: But extremely happy for him. He's worked hard and really

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Speaker 1: deserves that and when we're happy to have him here

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Speaker 1: and back in the mix. Talk about his just his

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Speaker 1: evolution at that position, not only from pass catching but

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Speaker 1: the details of the game blocking that just from your

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Speaker 1: perspective since you've been here, how how have you or

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Speaker 1: how would you describe his growth? It's been great. It's

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Speaker 1: been fun to watch, to be honest with you. To

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Speaker 1: see a guy that, uh, you know, you wouldn't label

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Speaker 1: himself as a run blocker become one of the best

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Speaker 1: run blocking tight ends in the league has been impressive.

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Speaker 1: You know, his toughness is strength. Um, you know, his

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Speaker 1: ability to to understand our scheme and what we're asking

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Speaker 1: him to do. He's grown tremendously. It's been fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: You've been around to Shawan now for probably five six weeks,

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Speaker 1: so so what are your impressions of him? Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's very dynamic. Um. The the accuracy and the arm

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Speaker 1: strength are two of the things that stand out the most.

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Speaker 1: Is football knowledge is is vast Um. He's learning our

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Speaker 1: system as we go, but you could tell he's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of football experience in his body. He's fun

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Speaker 1: to watch, um, you know, and this is just in

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Speaker 1: settings of controlled pockets. But going back and watching the tape,

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Speaker 1: he's obviously, you know, a tremendous player outside the pocket

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Speaker 1: as well when he extends the plays. Not to turn

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Speaker 1: it into like a comparison, but I mean you spend

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Speaker 1: time around Aaron Rodgers, who's an elite quarterback, do you

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Speaker 1: see some of that? And when you kind of work

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Speaker 1: with this I do? I do? I mean his ability

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Speaker 1: to escape um is top notch elite in the league.

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Speaker 1: And then his ability to make plays outside the pock

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Speaker 1: get is up there too. So there's some similarities his

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Speaker 1: skills open up the playbook for you. There's different things

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Speaker 1: we'll be able to do. I think moving forward, um

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Speaker 1: with him, we'll take some of the things that he

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Speaker 1: did well in Houston implement him into our system. Um.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, you know, obviously we're running first

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Speaker 1: offense and we're never gonna shy away from handing the

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Speaker 1: ball off to Nick and Kareem. Rust the shakes, sail

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Speaker 1: the shenre. Has he done that already? I think there's

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Speaker 1: always rust, you know, whether it's you know, just the

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Speaker 1: off season coming back into the O T A S.

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Speaker 1: Players have rust from that m a whole year out. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely gonna be rust, and you can see it.

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Speaker 1: But he's working through that. Is that thinking behind him

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Speaker 1: staying in there when when you guys go to tunes,

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Speaker 1: I see him stand in there a lot. Um, But

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Speaker 1: last weekend today, Yeah, we're just trying to bank reps

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Speaker 1: right now. Um, our installs are pretty um small. So

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Speaker 1: he's getting, you know, the same play, maybe with a

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Speaker 1: different personnel grouping or a different formation variation, but he's

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Speaker 1: repping the same play three or four times in a day.

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Speaker 1: So we're trying to build that muscle memory and bank

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Speaker 1: up those reps. Where is he now and where does

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Speaker 1: he need to be to help you guys and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, David's a rookie. As all rookies when they

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Speaker 1: can get thrown into there, they're swimming a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But he's come on, especially in the last few days.

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Speaker 1: He's made some plays. Um. You know with the Shawan

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Speaker 1: out there, he's got a real knack of knowing how

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Speaker 1: to get open. I think with David, the more confidence

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Speaker 1: he has and what route he has, his ability shines.

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's it's uh, it's a work in

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Speaker 1: progress and he's growing each day. Young receivers, are you

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Speaker 1: in the instructional phase? Like when do you need to

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Speaker 1: see them take a lead as far as continue for point? Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, the guys that are gonna be in the

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Speaker 1: mix need to step up now and now is the time.

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Speaker 1: They're getting plenty of reps in there, you know, and

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Speaker 1: as we get into the mini camp at the end,

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Speaker 1: we should have a feel good feel about who we have,

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Speaker 1: you know at the receiver position. But those guys are

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Speaker 1: working extremely hard. Last week, several of Deshawn's teammates were

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Speaker 1: saying that he's really locked in when he gets in

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Speaker 1: the building despite what's going on outside. Has that been

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Speaker 1: your impression as well? Absolutely? You know I came through

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Speaker 1: um two or three days ago to leave the office.

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Speaker 1: I guess was last week about five thirty and UM,

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Speaker 1: you know he was just wrapping up to day. So

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Speaker 1: he he spends the time in the building. You know,

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Speaker 1: he puts the work in. There's a great study habits.

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Speaker 1: You get text questions, you know in the evening where

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Speaker 1: you know he's going through the scripts. So he's putting

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Speaker 1: the work in. This this last week about the young receivers,

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Speaker 1: you know we brought into Mari to be your number

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Speaker 1: one this offseason, Donovan, People's Jones, who's been here a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, and you know Anthony Schwartz going into

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Speaker 1: year or two from him. A lot of people wanted

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Speaker 1: to speculate about bringing in a second veteran receiver to

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Speaker 1: help that group. But you have a lot of strength

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Speaker 1: in numbers with these young guys. Just what how do

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Speaker 1: you feel about DPJ and Schwartz and their ability to

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Speaker 1: maybe grow into that role. Um, you know, Donovan's having

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Speaker 1: an outstanding O T A sessions. He's really you know

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Speaker 1: shined out there, done some really good things. So expect

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Speaker 1: him to pick up where he left off last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy's productive for us. He's an

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Speaker 1: intelligent guy who can play multiple spots. You can move

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Speaker 1: him around the formation. Um, and he does you know,

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Speaker 1: a really nice job in his route running. So um,

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Speaker 1: status quo for him. He's actually been better than he

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Speaker 1: has UM short seat. Now's a guy that came in

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Speaker 1: last year kind of had some ups and downs, but

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Speaker 1: is really focused in now. He's catching the ball extremely well. Um.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that definitely can stretch the field for you. UM.

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Speaker 1: So we're getting to see some of those things now

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Speaker 1: come to fruition. But I'm very happy with both those

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Speaker 1: guys where they are right now. But they do need

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Speaker 1: to it, you know, keeping contributing for us. It seems

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Speaker 1: like that there's more focused on He's on three receivers

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Speaker 1: at least so far earlier this season. Um, but that

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Speaker 1: have happened. It's a baker, which is still a quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's more based on how we structure practice. Uh. This

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Speaker 1: year we put more of an emphasis on situational football. Um.

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Speaker 1: That means every day we're practicing third downs red zone.

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Speaker 1: Generally those situations you know, require eleven personnel or zebra

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Speaker 1: personnel in the fiel or three right receiver sets. He's

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Speaker 1: an evaluation from last year and seeing how to playoffs

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Speaker 1: unfolded all that offense. Was there an understanding that you

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Speaker 1: needed to get more three receiver sets into the offense.

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Speaker 1: We needed to work on our passing game. Our drop

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Speaker 1: back pass game, whether that's two tight ends and two

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Speaker 1: wides or three wide receivers, is definitely an area of

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Speaker 1: emphasis for us UM going in. UM we've we're treating

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Speaker 1: this camp like a passing camp more or less. I

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Speaker 1: think at the end of this we'll have three fifty

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Speaker 1: passes versus live competition, seven on seven periods. So we

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Speaker 1: definitely focused in on our drop back pass game as

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Speaker 1: a as a point emphasis this offseason. Alex to go

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Speaker 1: to back to David for a second, UM, just how

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Speaker 1: have you seen him adjust to those reps in the

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Speaker 1: slot and dealing with that that extra traffic. That's something

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Speaker 1: he was talking about. That's something I think is the

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Speaker 1: strength of his We've identified early on in the scouting

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Speaker 1: process that he's a guy that can find the holes

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Speaker 1: in the zones and really understands how to work to

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Speaker 1: get open, so that's something that's natural for him. All right, Thanks,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get pretty fun. It will take this last one.

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Speaker 1: You you obviously we're more close to Baker and you

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Speaker 1: thought highly of Baker. So what what do you think

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Speaker 1: the outlook is is for Baker? Just in terms of

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Speaker 1: his future career, is he you know wherever? Yeah? Um,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a tough one. You know, I keep personal

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Speaker 1: relationships personal, but you know, I think Baker's a very

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Speaker 1: good quarterback, has a good future ahead of him. All right.

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Speaker 1: That's Brown's offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt at the podium

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Speaker 1: from earlier this week talking about this offense and the

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Speaker 1: fact it's going to be a passing camp. If you

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Speaker 1: want to get more in depth, more specific about basically

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Speaker 1: every position group on this offense, be sure to check

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Speaker 1: out the latest edition of the best podcast available as

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Speaker 1: I or is like the Girl and Friends as I

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Speaker 1: Go one on one with Alex van Pelt. You can

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Speaker 1: get it wherever you watch. You get your podcast or

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Speaker 1: watching on the Brown's YouTube channel at YouTube dot com

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Speaker 1: Slash Brown's. It's a pretty comprehensive interview that goes through

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Speaker 1: kind of almost player by player, everybody on the offensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball all uh for the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: and it's an offense that's had a very good beginning

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Speaker 1: to this offseason program. Obviously, when you have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: to caliber and Shaun Watson, uh, it's noticeable. It's a change,

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Speaker 1: and it will be a change for Brownstons when they

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Speaker 1: come out to training camp and they see him out there.

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Speaker 1: And not only that, I think Jacobi Pricet has had

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Speaker 1: a very nice camp and he's a guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: the Browns brought in in the event that he has

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Speaker 1: to start some games this season, the guy who has

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Speaker 1: started and one in the NFL for multiple teams, the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: the Colts, the Dolphins. So they've got that experience. But

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Speaker 1: you'll see very crisp, a lot of talent out there

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Speaker 1: on the field. And we really haven't even as we said,

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Speaker 1: delve too far into the run game, because that's something

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Speaker 1: that they do as training camp progresses. You get the

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Speaker 1: pads on, and of course it is the foundation of

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Speaker 1: what the Browns do on offense. But this is a

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Speaker 1: team with a lot of talent on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the football and excellent line and a top five

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. And when you put those kind

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Speaker 1: of things together, you have an opportunity to be special

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Speaker 1: and to be explosive. And I think that was one

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Speaker 1: of the questions that Tony gross who was getting at there.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you evaluated it last year, did you

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Speaker 1: need more three receiver sets? It's about eleven personnel per se.

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Speaker 1: It's about creating explosive plays in the drop back passing

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Speaker 1: game and being able to execute your drop back passing

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Speaker 1: game when the other team knows that you have to throw.

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Speaker 1: And that's something the Browns could not do and now

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Speaker 1: the Browns will be able to do that with the

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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson at quarterback. So I think that's some of

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Speaker 1: the stuff that Ox van Pelt was talking about there

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Speaker 1: giving yeah, And I think just like Joe Wood said

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Speaker 1: during his press or earlier, uh, it's hard to get

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Speaker 1: a feel for the defensive line because there's no contact.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with the offensive line, you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: the same thing with you know, we know what we're

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Speaker 1: getting in the offensive line, but just the reps. It's

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Speaker 1: tough to get reps when there's no contact to really

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Speaker 1: see how those guys are doing. So they get to

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Speaker 1: do a lot of their own drill work and their

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01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: technique work with their position coaches, and I think that's

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01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: very important. And they have so far, so far been

1478
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: able to you know, their please talk with Bill Callahan,

1479
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: are talking with Chris Kiffin, please, is what they've seen.

1480
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: But it's always with the bet. All right, let's see

1481
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: this when we're actually playing some football, or at least

1482
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: get the pads and the shells on and we can

1483
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: actually thought up against the defensive line and see how

1484
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: these blocks go. So this offense, though, I think you're

1485
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy it. I've talked about it many many times.

1486
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: When you come out to training camp, you're gonna see

1487
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: a different offense with the ability to push the ball

1488
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: to every blade of grass, and that's vertically as well

1489
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: as horizontally and working the middle of the field in

1490
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: the past game. And then oh now we've got to

1491
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: get you know, we can't load the box up anymore.

1492
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: So what's that mean for Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt.

1493
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: That's why this offense has a chance to be very special,

1494
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: very explosive, and put a lot of points on the

1495
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: board this season. All right, when we come back, we

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: got a little higher lower talking about some things from

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01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: around the sports world, and wrap it up here on

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01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: a Friday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. Here on eight

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01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: fifty ESPN, Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily, ESPN Cleveland. All right,

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01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: welcome back into Cleveland. In the Grounds and Daily Nathan

1501
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs wrapping it up here on a fried Er

1502
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: get close to that time, a little bit from the

1503
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: sports world real quickly, and and news involving the play

1504
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: by play voices of teams in the NFL. Our Own

1505
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: Jim Donovan very pleased by the Celtics shooting in the

1506
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: fourth quarter last night. They went absolutely lights out blitzing

1507
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: and they go went on a seventeen o run Gibbe

1508
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter to defeat the Warriors. Last night

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01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: a seventeen o run in the fourth quarter at Golden State.

1510
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: They made like six threes Road Tatum was three for seventeen,

1511
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 1: I want to say, shooting and they won and everybody,

1512
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 1: everybody was concerned because they played Game six against the Heat.

1513
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: They screwed up and they had to fly to Miami.

1514
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: Then they had to come back to Boston, and then

1515
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 1: they had to go across country and it's like travel

1516
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be a factor. Not at all. We're just

1517
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna go into Golden State and punk him huge win.

1518
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: Curry played great, not enough help around him in this

1519
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: particular game. Uh, and he really they kind of neutralized

1520
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: him as the game went on, to be honest, and

1521
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: he had early and finished with thirty four. Uh. And

1522
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: for the Celtics, everybody was hitting White Marcus Smart. Al

1523
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: Horford had a career high in any game that he's

1524
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: ever played. Al Horford has been the league forever. He

1525
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: made six threes, they were unconscious and Tatum while he

1526
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: wasn't shooting, while thirteen assists in the game. Uh, he

1527
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: was plus six pluser minus was plus sixteen while he

1528
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: was on the court. So that made our play by

1529
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: play guy very happy. Jim Donovan As for another play

1530
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: by play guy, it sounds like Brent Musburger is out

1531
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, tweeting out thank you very much for

1532
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: his time there. But he is out with the Raiders,

1533
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: which was a big surprise to me, to be honest

1534
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: with you, Gibbey, it was I'm not sure what's going on,

1535
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: and I put in a couple text to a couple

1536
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: of people. I know, and I have not heard anything

1537
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: because everybody was kind of shocked. He tweeted out many

1538
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: thanks to the Raiders Organization for fond memories. I'll miss

1539
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: broadcast partner Lincoln Kennedy and the radio production crew. What's next?

1540
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: I hear Mike Trout might up down his commissioner of

1541
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: his fantasy league. You never know. No reason was given

1542
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: for Musburger's departure. No word on who will be taking

1543
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: his place. That's a big one. Yeah, not a spring Chicken,

1544
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: but an absolute legend for sure. Yeah, very very strange. Yeah,

1545
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: it's that wild look at to see him. At least

1546
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: we got to see him last year. It came in

1547
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: the booth. Yeah. Yeah, he's been a guest in the

1548
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,799
Speaker 1: booth a couple of times when we were out in Oakland.

1549
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: You were not there, um and then uh recently, Yeah,

1550
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: he was in our booth last year. Last year we

1551
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: ended up playing on Monday afternoon. Weird. It was weird. Yep, yes,

1552
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: it was um At King Stefanski, I'm sorry that you

1553
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't take advantage of the ice cream truck driving down

1554
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: your street. No good job, Kings, no bad job by you.

1555
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: I'm the opportunity by you and you you should be better.

1556
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: First of all, it's early, right, I mean it's early

1557
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: for that kind of stuff on a Friday. It's early

1558
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: for what. It's early for some ice cream? Yeah, oh

1559
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: my god. Like my aunt, my great aunt had a

1560
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: saying it's never too early. She would eat ice cream

1561
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: for breakfast. See it saying it's never too early for

1562
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: ice cream. I love that. No, like what? Okay mechling,

1563
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: thank you for correcting the pronunciation. Gaff he can he

1564
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: confirmed it? Well, we always do. Yeah, Well, I just

1565
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, I never know, you know, I want to

1566
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 1: do the guy justice. That's all A little higher or

1567
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: lower time for from the Ohio Lottery. Lots of bad

1568
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: advice out there about gambling, from secret methods to picking

1569
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: lottery numbers to betting big. When you're on a roll,

1570
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: these myths can lose your money and get you a

1571
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: lot of trouble. So before your wage or find out

1572
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: what's real and what isn't and keep it fun. Ohio

1573
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: dot Com, I'm gonna tighten this up a little bit

1574
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: since we're a little pressed for time higher lower. Chris

1575
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: Simms has an annual quarterback rankings. He started to to

1576
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: filter these out here. Okay, so let's just stick Maybe

1577
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: let's just stick with thirty to forty and then we'll

1578
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: get into the nitty gritty in the coming coming days. Uh.

1579
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: In Chris Simms's top forty quarterback rankings, uh, should the

1580
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: following quarterbacks instead of closer to number one? Should they

1581
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: be in the top thirty or are they just right

1582
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: where they're ranked? Madison hit it all right. Jared Goff

1583
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: comes in at number thirty. Should he be higher? Should

1584
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: he be lower? Or is he just writes a girl?

1585
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's better than Trabiskie and Mariota

1586
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: and to a right now though too has a chance

1587
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: to really take a big leap forward, So I would

1588
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 1: have him. I think he's better than where he is

1589
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: currently ranked, and I think he's gonna have a nice season.

1590
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: I think De Troit's got a nice little offensive package

1591
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: around him. I think he's gonna be pretty good. So

1592
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: I would. I think Jared Goff is better than where

1593
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: he is currently ranked of everybody else in in that

1594
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: this range. Though, to be honest with you, give me,

1595
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of a problem with them

1596
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: being there. I don't know really what Trey Lance is

1597
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: I know kind of what Sam Donald is, Geno Smith,

1598
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley has some upside, Davis Mills they like down

1599
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: in Houston, Tarad, we know who he is. Gardner Minshew.

1600
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 1: I think it's actually better than a lot of those guys.

1601
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: I think Teddy Bridgewater has been than those guys. And

1602
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: we haven't really seen Kenny Pickett yet, so I really

1603
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: don't have much of a problem. I think the twenties

1604
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: are the seventeen to thirty are all kinds of out

1605
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: of whack as far as we will and we will

1606
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: get into those. But all right, so here's my question then, like,

1607
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: what does it say about Seattle the GENA number one?

1608
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why they think Gene why he thinks

1609
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: Geno SMI it is thirty best quarter I don't think

1610
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: he's better than I don't think he's better than Huntley,

1611
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: better than Taylor Minshew or Bridgewater. No, no, I don't

1612
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 1: not at all. And by the way, Seattle, your quarterback situation.

1613
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: If if Chris Simms is ranking Kenny Pickett the rookie,

1614
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 1: ahead of Drew Lock who's supposed to be your starter,

1615
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: and he's ranking Gino Smith seven spots ahead of Drew

1616
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: lock you might have a problem, Yeah, you do. I

1617
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: mean it's a it's a wild situation. And and you

1618
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: know he's got two guys who are don't have a

1619
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: team right now in his top twenty, which again I

1620
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: would take. I think there's a lot that can be

1621
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: moved around from from from seventeen to thirty. Yeah, I

1622
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: I would tend to agree with you. Clearly he's not

1623
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: buying in on the Davis Mills hype. No he is not.

1624
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and the fact that he has Trevor Lawrence

1625
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: ranked where he behind Wilson and Fields to me is

1626
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: just bonkers. And Daniel Jones like that's crazy to me

1627
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: and Mac Jones, I know, Mac Jones played like but

1628
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: like he had Trevor Lawrence had the worst coach maybe

1629
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: in NFL history in a one year period. I mean,

1630
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: it was a completely lost year for the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1631
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 1: completely lost. And and and Justin Fields, who has no weapons,

1632
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: no help. I don't know who he is. I mean,

1633
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson's got the best supporting cast right now, and

1634
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: we'll find out if he's as good as I mean,

1635
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: it was a no brainer in their minds to take

1636
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: him second. So we'll see what that means. I mean,

1637
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: so he's got golf thirty. Your boy, Trey Lance thirty

1638
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: one is pretty generous considering we don't know anything about him. Yeah,

1639
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was thirty two, Gino SMITHT three Huntley. I

1640
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: feel like should be thirty one. I mean he played

1641
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: very well last year. Yeah, Tad, you know Minshoe, Like

1642
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: you said, I feel like should be a little bit higher. Theodore.

1643
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: Theodore is who he is, do you know Smith? Yeah,

1644
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: that's he's better than Sam Donald. So it's an abbreviated

1645
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: version of of higher lower this week, so he hasn't

1646
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: released his top sixteen yet, you're saying, correct interested. Yeah,

1647
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: we'll get into all of this maybe while you're gone

1648
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: next week. Who knows, you're gonna be on assignment for

1649
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: a few days. Glorious, can't wait. That's right. We have

1650
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: the golf outing coming up on Monday. We will be

1651
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: alive from the Cleveland Browns Foundation Golf outing on Monday,

1652
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: the golf tournament, so that you have to look forward to.

1653
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully the weather will cooperate with us, because I don't

1654
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: think any of us really want to be getting rained on,

1655
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: but I think that's where we will be and we

1656
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: should have fun guests coming through. Uh if if the

1657
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: weather cooperates. I mean, right now, it's hard to imagine

1658
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: that it could rain ever again here. But I also

1659
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: know that it will rain again here because it's just

1660
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: the way that it is. All right, So much more

1661
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 1: to come here as we wrapped this week up O

1662
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: TI A week two on a Friday edition Cleveland Browns

1663
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: Daily here on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily,

1664
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: sp N Cleveland. All right, there's a lot of bad

1665
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: advice out there about gambling from secret methods and taking

1666
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: lottery numbers, the betting big. When you're on a roll,

1667
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 1: these mists can lose you money and get you in

1668
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. So before you wage or find

1669
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: out what's real and what isn't, keep it fun Ohio

1670
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: dot common if it Thanks to the Ohio Lottery for

1671
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: presenting that fun higher or lower segment. We just had

1672
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: next week four days of t A S O t

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01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: A seven, eight, nine, and ten beginning on Monday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

1674
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 1: On Monday, we will be out at the Brown Clean

1675
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: Browns Foundation Golf Tournament, so we will have live coverage

1676
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: of that for you here on Cleveland Browns Daily. Next

1677
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: Wednesday will be the media Availability day again at the

1678
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: Cross Country Mortgage Campus, so look for a lot of

1679
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: interviews and exclusive sound coming out of that day next

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01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: week here with the O. T A. S big thanks

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