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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in.

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Speaker 3: I hope all of you are having a fantastic day

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Speaker 3: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We have got a bevy

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Speaker 3: of stories to hang out and discuss throughout the course

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Speaker 3: of the day with you. We're going to continue to

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Speaker 3: talk about the issues surrounding Trump's legal processes and where

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Speaker 3: we are headed there. We have got a variety of

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Speaker 3: opinions about when and where these trials will actually take place.

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Speaker 3: We will discuss snow White not happy over people saying

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Speaker 3: mean things about her. This is the live action remake

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Speaker 3: snow White. Target with some interesting comments about the impact

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Speaker 3: from all of you after they decided that they wanted

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Speaker 3: to sell young children bathing suits that allowed boys to

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Speaker 3: tuck their penises inside of women's bathing suits. Yes, this

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Speaker 3: was a real thing and it has had a substantial impact.

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Speaker 3: RFK Junior is a stain on the Kennedy family. I

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Speaker 3: want to make sure that you guys understand what is

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Speaker 3: being said about anyone who dares to step at Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden in the Democrat Party. Will Caine from out in

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Speaker 3: Hawaii as the fallout continues surrounding the devastating wildfire there

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Speaker 3: that has taken over one hundred lives, with the fear

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Speaker 3: that there will be many more discovered in the days ahead.

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Speaker 3: All of that and more coming your way. But Buck,

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Speaker 3: I went three for three. I know I came on

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Speaker 3: as a guest. Awesome time in Salt Lake City. Appreciate

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Speaker 3: everybody who came out in lighton Utah. Also last night,

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Speaker 3: hundreds of you came out in Katie, Texas.

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Speaker 2: It was phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: I am now in Tampa and I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: at the Brandon, Florida. Let's go Brandon, easy to remember

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Speaker 3: signing copies of my book at the Books a Million

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Speaker 3: today at five o'clock. As producer ally says, it'll be

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Speaker 3: a happy hour. So I am headed over there right

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Speaker 3: at five. Cannot wait to meet many of you in

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Speaker 3: Florida at the Brandon, Florida Books a Million. But Buck,

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Speaker 3: I am. I spent a lot of time reading all

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Speaker 3: about this Atlanta indictment that has been brought against Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: and I know we talked about it a little bit yesterday,

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Speaker 3: but I am filled with an absolute plenitude of opinions

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Speaker 3: surrounding this case where it's going and how it fits

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Speaker 3: into the larger legal apparatus as they try to bring

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Speaker 3: down Donald Trump. As we sit here, what one week

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Speaker 3: I believe from the day of the first Republican debate,

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Speaker 3: which will be taking place in Milwaukee exactly one week

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Speaker 3: from now. I know you spent all day yesterday talking

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Speaker 3: about it. Three straight times. Trump has been indicted and

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Speaker 3: I have been out of the next day, which would

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Speaker 3: pay off at an incredible parlay one hundred to one

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Speaker 3: or better. I would think, what was your biggest takeaway

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Speaker 3: as you continue to sit and look at the fallout.

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Speaker 4: The law it seems, and you know, we had Andy

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Speaker 4: deep down into it. The rico component of this is

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Speaker 4: more for the headlines than it is for the statute

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Speaker 4: or than it is for the real nuts and bolts

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Speaker 4: of the case. It's all they've always wanted to treat

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Speaker 4: Trump like a mob boss, and that's what everyone knows

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Speaker 4: is that's what RICO brings up in the in the

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Speaker 4: public mind, and even for people that work as prosecutors,

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Speaker 4: that's generally what they're thinking of, either a drug gang,

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Speaker 4: conspiracy or you know, organized crime.

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy.

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Speaker 4: And now they're even saying that Rudy Giuliani, who built

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Speaker 4: his career effectively. I mean, I remember this. He went

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Speaker 4: after all the racketeering in New York City in the

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Speaker 4: construction industry, and that's how Rudy became first kind of

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Speaker 4: America's prosecutor than America's mayor. And now they're going after

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Speaker 4: him as part of the Rico Clay On the politics

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Speaker 4: of this, again, there's no downside for the prosecutor. There's

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Speaker 4: no downside for the Democrats. So unfortunately it's a narrative

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Speaker 4: win for them at this stage. Right they're getting what

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Speaker 4: starting to see, Oh, there's a lot of back and

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Speaker 4: forth over first of all, whether the trials are actually

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Speaker 4: I thought of you right away. I think there's going

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Speaker 4: That's not why they in my mind that it's just

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Speaker 4: not feasible for the people that are pushing these decisions.

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Speaker 4: But the process is a process, and who knows how

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Speaker 4: it's actually going to shake out. Can we play Dershowitz

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Speaker 4: here saying Heath says Clay. All four will happen and

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Speaker 5: I predict there'll be some convictions.

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Speaker 6: I think the strategy is to get bad convictions, but

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Speaker 6: but they'll be reversed on the appeal after the election.

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Speaker 6: That's why everybody's rushing to get these cases tried. We

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Speaker 6: now know that they want to tried within six months.

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Speaker 6: In Georgia, they want to trial in January. In Washington,

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Speaker 5: They want to trial in May. In Florida.

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Speaker 6: New York has been willing to put it off, but

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Speaker 6: they're gonna get on the bandwagon too.

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Speaker 5: Everybody who was going after Trump.

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Speaker 6: The whole get Trump approach is to get him before

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Speaker 6: the election.

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Speaker 2: Play.

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Speaker 4: I stand firmly with the Dirshaw on this one. You

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Speaker 4: still seem skeptical. I think he's one hundred percent. I

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Speaker 4: love Alan Dershowitz. We've had him on this show several times.

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Speaker 4: He is way smarter than me when it comes to

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Speaker 4: analyzing the word. I'm not in any way questioning that,

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Speaker 4: in my opinion, there is a zero percent chance that

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Speaker 4: there will be four completed trials before the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: four election. I think it's possible that the March case

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Speaker 4: surrounding the bookkeeping error in New York City that might

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Speaker 4: possibly go to trial right now it is slotted for March.

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Speaker 2: I think that's possible.

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Speaker 3: I think that the chances of there being more than

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Speaker 3: one resolved court case is nearly zero, and that is

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Speaker 3: because of the complexities that are involved, certainly in the

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Speaker 4: But I have to ask, what do you think Dershowitz

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Speaker 4: is missing though, because he understands the complexity. I think

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Speaker 4: he's assuming that the system is going to run differently,

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Speaker 4: because that's the whole point, right that a judge who

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Speaker 4: would normally play look at these motions and say, all right,

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Speaker 4: we've got it. It's just gonna say no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: keep going. Let's move that the system is effected if

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Speaker 4: we believe it's weaponized. Why don't we think that the

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Speaker 4: judiciary is a part of it? Okay, So I think

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Speaker 4: you can break them down on a multiple front level one.

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Speaker 3: I bet Alan Dershowitz does not know much about the

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Speaker 3: much motioning, there's going to be so much difficulty that

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Speaker 3: it will be virtually impossible to get these cases done. Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: let me give you an example, Buck, there is currently

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Speaker 3: a RICO case that is being tried by Fanny Willis,

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Speaker 3: who who is the district attorney in this case. She's

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Speaker 3: charging a Atlanta area rapper with RICO violations. Many of

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Speaker 3: the charges very similar to what she brought against Trump.

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Speaker 3: They've been trying to seat a jury in that case

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Speaker 3: since January. We're now sitting in August. So many of

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Speaker 3: the defendants are making motions. There are so many different

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Speaker 3: moving parts here. Remember they're nineteen defendants. Many of those defendants,

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you will be trying to argue that they

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Speaker 3: analyzing Atlanta in particular, I think there's a very strong

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Speaker 3: chance that Trump is going to be able to get

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Speaker 3: the Atlanta Georgia state case moved to federal court. Because

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Speaker 3: virtually every act that is alleged to have occurred by

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Speaker 3: a very strong likelihood that Trump is able to move

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Speaker 3: the charges against him. Some of these are state charges

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Speaker 3: that I think may well stay in state court against

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's a.

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Speaker 4: State level offense. The whole reason that Fanny Willis is

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Speaker 3: Be she wants to be in Georgia, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: But the defendant has the right. And if we've got

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Speaker 3: law is pretty clear that this should be a federal case.

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Speaker 3: Fanny Willis wants it in district court in the state,

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Speaker 3: but I believe the federal district court. I think that's

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Speaker 4: I mean, also, you brought up January sixth, for example,

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Speaker 4: how many cases were moved out of DC of January

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Speaker 2: Be fair, January sixth arose in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: Though that's fair, But they did anyone really think that

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Speaker 4: that's a fair jury pool for those people?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: No, But I mean a big part of deciding where

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Speaker 2: But where defense council will argue that they can't get

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Speaker 3: I get that, But I'm saying the Atlanta case is

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Speaker 3: not based. I mean, it certainly helps Trump to get

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Speaker 3: trial argument. It's that the state of Georgia is not

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Speaker 3: the actual location where most of Trump's alleged criminal conduct

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Speaker 3: took place, and therefore diversity jurisdiction because of the federal

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Speaker 3: court needing to carry it actually does make some sense.

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Speaker 3: And again lawyers can tell me if you disagree. But

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Speaker 3: almost nothing that I read that was alleged by Trump

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Speaker 3: in the lawsuit that was brought, in the charges that

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Speaker 3: were brought the indictment originated in Georgia itself. Right he

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Speaker 3: was calling, for instance, from the White House. It also

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Speaker 3: directly related to his job as president of the United States,

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Speaker 3: meaning there is both a federal defense in terms of

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Speaker 4: I actually think I'm Marke, because you're saying there's none

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Speaker 4: of these trials are going to happen. The federal government's

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Speaker 2: In some way. Well, he could still lose I think

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton chuck up a win for

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Speaker 1: Team Reality.

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Speaker 2: We were going to head out to Hawaii. We're waking

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Speaker 1: For us.

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Speaker 3: Is Will Kine of Fox News doing fabulous work, helping

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Speaker 7: Now, what's up, fellows us nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 7: You know, what do it look like? You know, Clay,

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Speaker 7: It's it's this, It's this weird dichotomy, like this is

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Speaker 7: government thing. It's wild how informationally deprived this place is.

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Speaker 7: Because self service is real. Spotty power was out for

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Speaker 7: several days. The government isn't letting people in, and specifically

441
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Speaker 7: not letting median. You have to get to a checkpoint

442
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Speaker 7: to get where I am. The only reason we got

443
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Speaker 7: through is because you know, I had proof that owned

444
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Speaker 7: property over here. But even since I've been here, like

445
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Speaker 7: they tried. The mayor of Maui's office told me tried

446
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Speaker 7: to kick us out of a place and said, this

447
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Speaker 7: is a media free zone. Oh no, it's not a

448
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Speaker 7: media free zone. It's the United States of America. So

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Speaker 7: my point I'm telling you that is if you are

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Speaker 7: deprived of that resource information a in this area, there's

451
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Speaker 7: a lot of confusion, a lot of rumor, and people

452
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Speaker 7: fill gaps of information with some Look. I don't throw

453
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Speaker 7: the word conspiracy around lightly anymore, because I think there's

454
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Speaker 7: nobody on a hotter run in America than conspiracy theorists.

455
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Speaker 7: But there is some ridiculous stuff that's being spread around

456
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Speaker 7: about the way this thing started, And I'm just telling

457
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Speaker 7: you that's what happens when you suppress free speech. People

458
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Speaker 7: will fill the void with whatever speech they want. Besides

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Speaker 7: the truth.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Will Kine. He's in Maui.

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Speaker 3: He's reporting with us on the devastating wildfire that swept

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Speaker 3: through and has killed over one hundred people as we

463
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Speaker 3: await potentially far more deaths to be tallied. And that

464
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Speaker 3: may be very difficult that you just heard Will said,

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Speaker 3: because of even identifying bodies and finding them.

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Speaker 2: How can people help?

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Speaker 3: I know this is up at Clay and Buck, but

468
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Speaker 3: you have raised over a million dollars, so I want

469
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Speaker 3: to make sure that we're talking about the positive here.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned you were answering Buck's question about the government.

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Speaker 3: How would you say, based on your on the ground view,

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Speaker 3: the federal government is doing handling and responding to this,

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Speaker 3: in addition to whatever resources the state government of Hawaii

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Speaker 3: might be bringing to bear.

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Speaker 7: So here's what i'd said to that, Clay. I want

476
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Speaker 7: to be I really truly want to be as fair

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Speaker 7: as possible. And I start with recognizing how difficult this

478
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Speaker 7: is logistically in every way, candleist, but that's kind of

479
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 7: why we pay massive amounts in taxes. Right to do

480
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Speaker 7: what's difficult. Somebody something to day, like Mallie County has

481
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Speaker 7: a budget of one point two billion for one hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty thousand people. Where's the money going? You know,

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Speaker 7: not mention what you're talking about, Clay. How much do

484
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Speaker 7: we pay in federal taxes? What's that budget look like?

485
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Speaker 7: How much are we sending to Ukraine? You know, do

486
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 7: we even know the answer that question? It's over one

487
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Speaker 7: hundred billion. And Biden first gives me a no comment,

488
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Speaker 7: and then we hear seven hundred dollars per household for Lahina.

489
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, that's just not going to get it done.

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Speaker 7: And so in the gap, by the way of this

491
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Speaker 7: role of the federal government, you've seen something that is

492
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Speaker 7: absolutely inspiring. It's unavoidable when you're over here, you will

493
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Speaker 7: it's unavoidable that you're going to run into the story

494
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Speaker 7: of private citizenry and community helping each other. I've been

495
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Speaker 7: doing this on my social media, you know, tell them stories,

496
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Speaker 7: buddy of mine. Sans Dyer owns a big catamaran that

497
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Speaker 7: does snorkel whale watching sunset cruises. Nope. The past week

498
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Speaker 7: he's done supply runs the other side of the island

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Speaker 7: to get people out of this area and bring necessities back.

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Speaker 7: I met two twenty nine year old girls, five kids

501
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Speaker 7: between them. One of them has a seven month old.

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Speaker 7: Twenty nine years old. They're running the biggest private citizen

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Speaker 7: airlift I've ever seen. They're running planes a dozen a day,

504
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Speaker 7: planes and helicopters from one side of the island to

505
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Speaker 7: the other, bringing stuff in and dropping it off at

506
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Speaker 7: a distribution point where I'm looking then at retired firefighters

507
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Speaker 7: handing this stuff out to people all up and down

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Speaker 7: the West coast. What people are doing in community running

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Speaker 7: boats from one island to another. From Molokai, I can

510
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 7: looking at Molokai right now. They're running boats over here

511
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Speaker 7: to drop it off in their communities for people to have.

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Speaker 7: We're amazing, like people are amazing. Americans are amazing. And

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Speaker 7: my personal testament to that clave so many people that

514
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Speaker 7: have grown up with here in the summers in Hawaii families.

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Speaker 7: We came together really quick. I mean you can't sit back,

516
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Speaker 7: it's just really quick. We put they put a gofund

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Speaker 7: me together. I rallied behind it with them. We made

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Speaker 7: it promise to each other to ensure this money will

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Speaker 7: go to people we know, local people. And when I

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Speaker 7: say local, I don't just mean this, but I mean

521
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Speaker 7: in part, Hawaii is not Hawaii without Hawaiians. And there

522
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Speaker 7: is a lot in Hawaii about you know, there's race issues,

523
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Speaker 7: ethnic issues, but the truth is everybody needs each other.

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Speaker 7: It's like a huge melting pot of everybody's story of

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Speaker 7: how they become an American Hawaiian. And you got to

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Speaker 7: have these people back in these homes in Lehina, these

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Speaker 7: homes that go over one hundred, two hundred years. It

528
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Speaker 7: can't be Disneyland, you know, it can't be like it

529
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Speaker 7: was built yesterday and it's beautiful, it's a resort like that.

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Speaker 7: Can't be the story of how this comes back. So

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Speaker 7: last I looked the men to go. It's up to

532
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Speaker 7: one point five million dollars. It's go fundme help the

533
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Speaker 7: people of Maui, where you can go to Helpmaui noow

534
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Speaker 7: dot com. And yeah, you know, I don't think it's

535
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Speaker 7: gonna happen because I don't know what is it. I

536
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Speaker 7: don't know how many households we're in Lihina. Let's say

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Speaker 7: four thousand and five, seven hundred dollars a household. What

538
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 7: is that, guys? Is that like three or four million bucks?

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Speaker 7: So far Biden is pledged to people of Lohina. I

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Speaker 7: don't know. Maybe we can beat Biden.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I certainly hope so.

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Speaker 4: And you see will Biden initially said no comment, then

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Speaker 4: he gave his speech yesterday. Are you seeing a lot

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Speaker 4: more federal resources? It just last twenty four hours, you know,

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 7: But I yeah, you know how I'm hesitant to say,

547
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Speaker 7: but but then you think about it. In the last

548
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Speaker 7: thirty six hours, I have seen the Hina by air,

549
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Speaker 7: on a small plane, by sea, on a boat, and

550
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 7: I've driven through the town of Line. I've seen this

551
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 7: from every freaking angle you can imagine. And I have

552
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 7: seen National Guard posted up, you know, keeping people out

553
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Speaker 7: of the sensitive parts of Lahina. But when it comes

554
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Speaker 7: to actual like handing stuff out to people, I'm sure

555
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Speaker 7: it's happening. There's got to be FEMA somewhere, you know.

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Speaker 7: But most of what I've been told is the federal

557
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Speaker 7: government's role has been to get in the way of

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Speaker 7: citizens stepping up into this voice.

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Speaker 4: I mean we'll kind of say, I know, you know,

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Speaker 4: the the naval base at Pearl Harbor and there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of resources. There's a lot of federal government resources

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Speaker 4: not that far away in Hawaii.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and look, and I should say this, what do

564
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Speaker 7: we six or seven days away? Seven eight days away

565
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Speaker 7: from the from the fire people? By the way, people

566
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Speaker 7: done amazing job. They've got water now, they've got food,

567
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Speaker 7: they've got diapers, so that like the necessities are here.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: What the next thing is is just like where do

570
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Speaker 7: I live? That's like a huge question. Where do I

571
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Speaker 7: live now? And I don't know how we answer that question?

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Speaker 7: And uh and who who rebuilds Lahina? That's you know,

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Speaker 7: I think Clay you asked me about that men to go.

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Speaker 7: People are talking about why this happened, and we mentioned conspiracy,

575
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Speaker 7: like this is where's legitimate? Like who rebuilds this? Where

576
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 7: do we live? And who rebuilds Leahina? And I think

577
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 7: people have a lot of very legitimate questions about that.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I don't know the role government. I

579
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Speaker 7: don't want to see the government coming in and buy

580
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Speaker 7: that land. I don't want to developers having all of

581
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Speaker 7: that land, now, this has got to be the land

582
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Speaker 7: that goes back to the people.

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Speaker 2: Give us that website one more time.

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Speaker 3: Will for people out there in our audience who want

585
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Speaker 3: to help with the one point five million that you've

586
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: already raised for so many people in Hawaii, you could

587
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Speaker 3: use that help help them outwi.

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Speaker 7: Noow dot com. It's at GoFundMe and you know real

589
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Speaker 7: quick on that, like I love gifts and go and

590
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Speaker 7: if I then the first got to start this, we

591
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Speaker 7: priably over there, but I should say this instead, somebody

592
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Speaker 7: started to go fund me. It's helped the people of Maui.

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Speaker 7: At go fund me. I'll just tell you guys this

594
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Speaker 7: My job is tell you the truth. Go fund me

595
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 7: so far has been awesome, including reaching out to me

596
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Speaker 7: personally to ensure that this goes well, and including making

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00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 7: their own donation to the fund as well. Go fundme

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Speaker 7: seems to understand, you know, the relationship that they have

599
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Speaker 7: or the mistakes they've made in the past, is what

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Speaker 7: they've been communicating to me, and they seem to be

601
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Speaker 7: very intent on being much better in the future. That

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Speaker 7: doesn't mean you don't use gifts and to go these

603
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Speaker 7: kind of things. I'm just telling you the truth that

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Speaker 7: this is information, that's the fact that's happened to me

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Speaker 7: in the past week. So either way you want to go,

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Speaker 7: that's where you can find it.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Thanks someone on the Clay and Buck website as well,

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Speaker 3: and we appreciate you getting up early with us and

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Speaker 3: sharing the story there.

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Speaker 7: Will always appreciate you to you guys. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: That's Will Kane.

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Speaker 1: From the front Lines of Truth, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 4: All right, second hour of Clay in Buck, and we'll

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Speaker 4: return to some of our some of the legal process

635
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Speaker 4: questions here which are intricate, and I have a couple

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Speaker 4: of I actually have a friend who's a former federal

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Speaker 4: prosecutors texting me about it right now, saying, you know that.

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Speaker 2: It is complicated.

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Speaker 4: But basically the federal judge Clay in Atlanta, in Atlanta

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Speaker 4: for that district.

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Speaker 2: We'll be able to.

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Speaker 4: Weigh in on whether it stays in federal court or not.

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Speaker 4: So it is not up to the state judge. It's

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Speaker 4: a motion that goes to the federal judge. Removal is

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Speaker 4: automatic based on a filing of notice. All Right, man,

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Speaker 4: we'll get we'll get into some more of this, But.

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Speaker 3: So everybody out there listening is gonna get basically a

648
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Speaker 3: crash course in constitutional law over the next year, and

649
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Speaker 3: it's impossible to avoid it. And to your point, like

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Speaker 3: this is stuff that even makes lawyers heads roll back

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Speaker 3: into their head. I mean, you have to be a

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Speaker 3: process scholar in order to even think about how all

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Speaker 3: this is going to play out. And I hope Trump

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Speaker 3: has elite legal representation, which we have talked about before,

655
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: because this is when you definitely need the best lawyers

656
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: in your quiver, so to speak.

657
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: And there's also going to be an element of chance.

658
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 4: Here the clat I were just talking about this a

659
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: moment ago, and based on the way trials normally go,

660
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: these four indictments, Trump would be if you were just

661
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: a normal person, like an everyday person, he'd be in court,

662
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: and first of all, it would be delayed. Certainly, it

663
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: wouldn't happen in the next year, as I think there's

664
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: no doubt about that, he'd probably be dealing with these

665
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: legal issues for years to come, right years in years,

666
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: I mean he might be four or five years out

667
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: still figure, but this is not normal. That's the This

668
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: is not normal in so many ways. And just the

669
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: fact that all all of these cases Clay were held,

670
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: all of them simultaneously, the indictments brought so that they

671
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: are timed during the election year, effectively during the election cycle.

672
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: Really that's not normal. That's not an accident, right, that's

673
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: not coincidence. This is people trying to scheme the system

674
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: and weaponize it against Trump, as we've said so many times.

675
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: So it's with that in mind that I think we're

676
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: trying to figure out where this all goes.

677
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: If he gets the right.

678
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: Judges, or if this Appeals Court and perhaps even Supreme

679
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 4: Court steps in, maybe that is the salvation.

680
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: Of justice here.

681
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: But it's gonna be it's gonna be a bit of

682
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: a wild ride. I wanted to just switch gears for

683
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: a second. I'm pretty sure at one point on Rotten Tomatoes. Okay,

684
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't want to say the number, but

685
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: it was certainly like a top five for a while

686
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 4: in Rotten Tomatoes in terms of audience loving it, and

687
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: I think it was the most watched or the most

688
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: beloved movie that Netflix had rights to for a while.

689
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: The blind Side, Yes, and I would wager that what

690
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 4: seventy five percent of the audience has seen this movie. Probably,

691
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: I think that's fair. I mean, it's between theaters and TV.

692
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: This was a It made three hundred million dollars domestically.

693
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 4: It is a Sandra Bullock film, and it's about the

694
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: Towy family and it's a very it's a very feel

695
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: good movie.

696
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: Like you know, everyone I.

697
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: Think comes away from it feeling like wow, it's such

698
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: an inspiring story.

699
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: And now Michael or say in his name right, right,

700
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: that's right?

701
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, It played in the NFL for a number

702
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: of years. The movie is based on his life story

703
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: and the Toui family. He went to the NFL for

704
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: a number of years, made something like thirty million dollars

705
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 4: as a player, and he has turned around now and

706
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: now I'm trying to get into what's reported versus what

707
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 4: is established. Essentially said that he was taken advantage of

708
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: by the Towey family. This is a big for a

709
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: lot of people that love that movie. And it takes

710
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: a Tennessee Yeah, Memphis, Yeah, it was Memphis, right, yeah, Okay,

711
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: takes place in Tennessee. Do you have a you know,

712
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: what can you tell us about this one? Because this

713
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: is like pop culture world, sports world. Now in the

714
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 4: just the news cycle of politics, you think the Tuwey

715
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: family is getting an unfair rap here because to me,

716
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: it seems like, really, after all these years and all

717
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: the money that was made and all the stories, now

718
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: this this guy or turns around and says allegedly he

719
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 4: wanted fifteen million dollars from them.

720
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

721
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 7: So uh.

722
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: For people out there who don't remember.

723
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: This movie, this is a high school kid in Memphis

724
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: whose family is incredibly impoverished.

725
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: He is a very talented football player.

726
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: He plays left tackle eventually for Ole Miss that's the

727
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: University of Mississippi. He's drafted in the first round. He

728
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: makes I think thirty five million dollars during his career

729
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: eight years in the NFL first round draft pick. And

730
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: the story of the blind Side is that he is

731
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: adopted by this wealthy white family in Memphis that allows

732
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: him to fulfill his full expectations. And the movie is,

733
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: like you said, Buck made over three hundred million dollars.

734
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: I think didn't Sondra Bullock win an Oscar for this?

735
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: In terms of yes, she did it.

736
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: I think commercially her most successful film ever, certainly higher

737
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: on the thespian scale than say, speed, which, while enjoyable,

738
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: is preposterous.

739
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: Speed is fantastic. I love it, But how many speeds

740
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: did they make? The first speed was what they made

741
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: speed too?

742
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 7: Right?

743
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: It was a cruise ship. Think about that for a second.

744
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: It goes from you're on a bomb. There's a bomb

745
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: on the bus, and if it goes below forty five

746
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 4: miles an hour it blows up to you're on.

747
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: A cruise ship.

748
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, the premise of the initial speed was tough to

749
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: look a while. That was Keanu Reeves with Sondra Bullock, right,

750
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: Am I correct?

751
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: In the original speed?

752
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: I was a big ke fan before the John Wick franchise.

753
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

754
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: And even better you're suggesting for Sondra Bullock than Miscongeniality,

755
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: which I think they also made multiple versions of.

756
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: Or wasn't she the.

757
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: Girl love interest in the Firm back in the day.

758
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: Isn't that Sondra Bullock with Tom Cruise in the firm?

759
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: That's that's oh yeah, Kurt Ashley Judd, No, No, not

760
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: Ashley Judd, Nope, No, no, it's Archer.

761
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: I think Ann Archer? Does that sound right? I can't

762
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: remember firm? The firm? All right? Well, was it.

763
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: Oh, Sondra Bullock was in A Time to Kill Jeene

764
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: triple Horn. Okay, that's the other one. It doesn't I

765
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: think she looks like Ann Archer I was.

766
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do look a little bit alike. But I

767
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: think Sondra Bullock was in A Time to Kill. That's

768
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: the Grisham novel that I was. Wasn't she the love

769
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: interest in A Time to Kill with Matthew McConaughey.

770
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Okay, I think so.

771
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Sondra Bullock, who we now have established as an act

772
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: in a lot of movies that all of you know.

773
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: So I think this is a totally This is my opinion.

774
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: I know, Michael Orr, I think I've met the Twois

775
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: at some point in historically. I think this is a

776
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: totally trumped up lawsuit, and I know the initial storyline.

777
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: It got all the attention.

778
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: Everybody said they stole all the money from him first

779
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: of all, Buck, I would think the accounting of what

780
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: the Twoe's made from the blind Side would be very

781
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: easy to uncover. And they claimed that they didn't make

782
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: that much money and that they gave an equal share

783
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: to everyone who was involved in the movie. They have

784
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: two biological children, Michael Orr and the parents. But here's

785
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: where I come down on this. The Touy family is

786
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: worth a couple one hundred million dollars irrespective of anything

787
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: that they made off the movie. The reason why they

788
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: were wealthy and they were able to take in this

789
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: kid and their kids were going to a fancy Memphis

790
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: private school Briarcrest, I believe. And by the way, we

791
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: are number one in Memphis. I bet there are people

792
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: who know the specifics of this listening to us right now.

793
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: The reason why they were able to be so generous

794
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: and able to take in Michael and able to support

795
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: him was because they were already supremely wealthy. So I

796
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: just look at it from the baseline level here. They

797
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: didn't make very much money relative to their net worth

798
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: off of the movie. It seems highly unlikely to me

799
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: that they somehow stole and bamboozled Michael Or to take

800
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 3: hundreds tens of millions of dollars out of his pocket

801
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: and put into their own. Again, I could be wrong,

802
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: but just the basic facts here don't suggest to me

803
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: that they could have made enough money that even what's

804
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: being alleged would have impacted their lifestyle.

805
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: In any way.

806
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 4: Do we know how Michael Lawre's finances are these days?

807
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 4: I'm curious. You know, how did he handle the thirty

808
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: five million dollars he made as a player, because that

809
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 4: would go toward motivation for this kind of thing. You know,

810
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: if he's if things are going well and he saved,

811
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: but you know, if he spent a lot of it,

812
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 4: it is stunning.

813
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: I know it's not.

814
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: There are a lot of athletes who now you know,

815
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: started their own brands, you know, tequila brands and whatever.

816
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 4: We've made a ton of money. But it's amazing how

817
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 4: some athletes are able to burn through. Didn't Allen Iverson

818
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: make one hundred and twenty million dollars playing basketball and

819
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: at one point, like in the last ten years said

820
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 4: he was broke or close to him.

821
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually, buck were so concerned that he was

822
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: going to spend all of his money that they built

823
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: a trust with fifty million dollars in it that he

824
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: was not allowed to actually touch to take care of

825
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 3: his family and himself in later age because his spending

826
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: was so outlandish that you're right, the same thing happened

827
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: with Antoine Walker. He made over one hundred million dollars

828
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: later went bankrupt. And what's remarkable about this buck is

829
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard to spend that kind of cash

830
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: and not have appreciable assets. Right Like, if you go

831
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: out and buy six homes, the homes still have a

832
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: value to them. What we're talking about a lot of

833
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: times is money being spent cash and it just vanishes.

834
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: Right You're spending three hundred thousand dollars at a restaurant

835
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: or at a party or something, and it's all cash,

836
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: and it just vanishes and there's no tangible asset with it.

837
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: I'll also I'll also say this, there's the there's a

838
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: report out you know, to be fair, we don't know

839
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: if this is true, but this is being reported on

840
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: right now that Michael or wanted fifteen million dollars, or

841
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: would say bad stuff about them in the media.

842
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, that feels a little bit like blackmail.

843
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: That feels a little bit like extortion.

844
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 4: You know, that's there's something about that that you know,

845
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 4: what was that really the you know there you would

846
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: think that if there was a an issue with life rights,

847
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 4: which they had to sell their life rights for the

848
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 4: movie to be made, that there's some already been some

849
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: discussion of this. This is what lawyers handle, right. You

850
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: can take this to the lawyers first to say give

851
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 4: me fifteen million dollars or I'm going to ruin your reputation,

852
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: or you try to that doesn't look at this doesn't

853
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: pass the smell testimony. Something's going on here.

854
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also again I just come back to this

855
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 3: shouldn't be very difficult the movie accounting. There will be checks,

856
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 3: there will be a roster of exactly how much was paid.

857
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: And if Michael Orr didn't get his fair share of

858
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: the movie, then I think that would be relatively easy

859
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: to prove. The other thing is he claims that he

860
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: was not actually adopted by them, But this is a

861
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: legal technicality because he was already eighteen when they decided

862
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: that they wanted to be involved with him, and so

863
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: they did a conservatorship and set in instead. I feel

864
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: like we're just diving into one legal complexity after another.

865
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: Buck and so much of news stories now are connected

866
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: to legal related issues. But a lot of times I

867
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: just take a step back and I say, Okay, does

868
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: this seem likely? Does it seem likely that a family

869
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: that's worth a couple one hundred million dollars would decide

870
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: to give nothing to Michael Or and pocket all of

871
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: the money themselves, and none of this becomes public for

872
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: fifteen years after the movie is made, and then suddenly

873
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Speaker 3: it explodes.

874
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: That seems unlikely to me.

875
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, but that it just doesn't add up

876
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: that I understand when people sometimes steal money, usually people

877
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: steal money a lot of times buck because they don't

878
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: actually have the money, right. It doesn't seem like that's

879
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: the case with the twoies. So we'll find out how

880
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: much money was actually outstanding. And let me just say this,

881
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 3: if you're in Memphis and you know this story, we're

882
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: number one in Memphis right now.

883
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: It's a it's an ugly story.

884
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: But I would think a lot of people listening to

885
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: us right now may be very very familiar with this case.

886
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 3: In particular, according to I don't know, this is one

887
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: of the clay It's it's a sports site, and I

888
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: don't want to give them any extra no, because it's not.

889
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 4: It's not OutKick the Good sports site. Yes, another sports

890
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: site saying that Or claims he made basically made no move,

891
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: no money from the blind side, and people are saying

892
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: his estimated net worth is like, you know, ten to

893
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 4: fifteen million dollars.

894
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: I think something like that. So let me see.

895
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 4: According to court filing, the two he's negotiated contract of

896
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in addition to

897
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 4: two point five percent of the film's net proceeds for

898
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: themselves or legenc he received nothing in terms of money

899
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: for the film that would not have existed without him.

900
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I think, Clay, right, this will just that's funny.

901
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 4: We are lawyering this thing, right, This will come down

902
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: to did he sell his did he sell his life

903
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: rights as part of this?

904
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you know?

905
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: Or was that even? Was that necessary? You would think

906
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 4: it would have to be necessary for this story to

907
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: be told. Yeah, he signed, he signed away his life

908
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: rights to this. And what I believe what the two

909
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: Weys are saying is that they basically everybody who was

910
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 4: in this movie, and the Twoey family, the two parents,

911
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: the two kids, and or who were all characters, each

912
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 4: got one fifth of the overall value of whatever dollars

913
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: eventually came out of that movie. And again that's why

914
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying, from an accounting perspective, like it either got

915
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: paid or they didn't.

916
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: This doesn't seem very complicated.

917
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: I mean, and if that's true, then that's true that

918
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: the numbers of the numbers are real and that's what happened.

919
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you sign something, you're an adult,

920
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: You got your piece of the pie and that should

921
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: be that right.

922
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exactly right. But we'll take some calls. Maybe

923
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: there's people out there who are more knowledgeable about this

924
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: in the Memphis. I'd love to hear how that's all

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Speaker 1: Learn and last Weekdays with Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking about one movie. Let's talk about

955
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Speaker 4: another for a few minutes. Here this goes to some

956
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: different issues. Snow White is I don't know. I think

957
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 4: it might be the most celebrated and beloved of the

958
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: classic Disney cartoons. It's either Snow White or Sleeping Beauty team.

959
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: Tell me which one of those made more money. I

960
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: would think snow White, but I don't know. Sleeping Beauty

961
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 4: was also a big one. They're doing a live action remake,

962
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: as you know. It's coming out in twenty twenty four,

963
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: and it has Rachel Zegler in the role of snow White.

964
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: Now she has these are old clips. I will say this.

965
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 4: I think they're from a year ago, maybe where she

966
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 4: was giving some interviews. Let's start with some of the

967
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: things that she had said that got her to a

968
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 4: place where now she's having to do a little bit

969
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 4: of cleaning.

970
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: Up the mess that she has made for herself.

971
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 4: Here she is, this is September, September eleventh of twenty

972
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: twenty two, actually talking about snow White, which she is

973
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: starring in play ten.

974
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 8: The original cartoon came out in nineteen thirty seven, and

975
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 8: very evidently so there is a big focus on her

976
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 8: love story with a guy who literally stalks her.

977
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 5: Weird.

978
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 8: Weird, So we didn't do that this time.

979
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: So no prince or a different kind of prince.

980
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 8: We have a different approach to what I'm sure a

981
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 8: lot of people will assume is a love story just

982
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 8: because like we cast a guy in the movie, Andrew

983
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 8: Burnap great dude. Yeah, it's one of those things that

984
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 8: I think everyone's going to have their assumptions about what

985
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 8: it's actually going to be. But it's really not about

986
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 8: the love story at all, which is really really wonderful.

987
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 8: And whether or not she finds love along the way

988
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 8: is anybody's guess. Until twenty twenty four, all of Andrews

989
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 8: Stine's could get cut. Who knows it's Hollywood baby.

990
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 4: Let's take a timeless and cherished love story, Clay and

991
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 4: remove the whole love story thing because charming princes and

992
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: all that stuff that's bad. We can't have that. The

993
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 4: male female dynamic here unacceptable.

994
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: Not only that, Buck, let's also remove all of the

995
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: lovable dwarves, which help to provide some comedic levity. And

996
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: what is otherwise, Let's be honest, a pretty dark story

997
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 3: for much of the top. I mean, the evil Witch

998
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: is as anybody out there who has watched Disney movies

999
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 3: as a kid as you can well remember, I mean,

1000
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: she's very creepy and scary, and so you're eliminating two

1001
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 3: of the things that people love about this movie. The

1002
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: love story. I saw the Babylon Bee had a really

1003
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: funny headline, and I'm paraphrasing here, Buck, but it was basically,

1004
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 3: Prince Charming no longer kisses snow White, and as a result,

1005
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: she stays dead because the spoiler alert, the movie ends

1006
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: with Prince Charming coming kissing snow White, bringing her back

1007
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: to life after she's been poisoned by the evil Witch.

1008
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: And so you take away the Dwarfs, you take away

1009
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: the love story, and you put in this woke actress

1010
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: who is ridiculing the movie itself and denigrating it to

1011
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: an entire universe of people who grew up with it

1012
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: and like it. And I think this movie, this is

1013
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: my prediction, is coming out next year, Buck. I think

1014
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: that it is going to be such an abject failure

1015
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: that it's going to be impossible for Disney to not

1016
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: acknowledge that they have lost their way and alienated their base,

1017
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: which is parents who just want their kids to be

1018
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: entertained by wholesome entertainment.

1019
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 4: Well, there's an indicator that they're starting to see that

1020
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: could happen, that this could play out in that way

1021
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 4: because the actress who's the lead, who is snow White,

1022
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 4: Rachel Zegler is now this is the new thing. This

1023
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: is why we're talking about this today. She's released a

1024
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: video where she's saying, of course things are being taken

1025
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: out of context about what she said about the movie

1026
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 4: out of context Play eleven, you know is.

1027
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 9: Gonna get taken out of context. And I know that

1028
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 9: at this point I can't really stop people from doing

1029
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 9: that because that's what my whole existence on the Internet

1030
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 9: is just be being taken out of context and stuff.

1031
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 9: Which is fine. That's what I signed up for, isn't it.

1032
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 9: But I never wanted to come off as me being

1033
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 9: ungrateful for the opportunities I have When I say that

1034
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 9: this has been the biggest adjustment of my life, like

1035
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 9: understanding the way my life operates now, being who I

1036
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 9: am and the things that I've been so fortunate to make.

1037
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 7: It comes with so much.

1038
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 9: Ground, so much ground that I never thought I would

1039
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 9: be able to cover, and that people think I'm doing poorly,

1040
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 9: and other people think I'm doing gracefully, and I don't

1041
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 9: think I'm doing it.

1042
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 4: At all, you know what I'm sure of. She thinks

1043
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: about herself a lot. She definitely has the ability to

1044
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 4: think about her I just think about how difficult it

1045
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: is to be hated. This is almost Megan and Markle

1046
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: like to me, you are like Megan Markele is a

1047
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 4: princess who is incredibly good looking that gets to be

1048
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 4: a legitimate princess. Almost every woman and listening to us

1049
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 4: right now, at some point when she was a girl

1050
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 4: dreamed of being a princess. This is why they have

1051
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: all of the entire Disney princess collection.

1052
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: It's not because women are being forced to believe that

1053
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 3: they want to be princesses. It's because growing up, getting married,

1054
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 3: having a family is the aspiration of ninety percent of women,

1055
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: all right, And if you're in the ten percent that

1056
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: doesn't want to do that, more power to you. I'm

1057
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: not saying anything wrong with it. Ninety percent of women

1058
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: out there want to grow up, they want to get married,

1059
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 3: and they want to have a family. And if they

1060
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: could be a princess on top of that, and Mary

1061
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: Prince Charming, oh my goodness, life could not get any

1062
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: better than that. So this girl gets cast buck as

1063
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: snow White. She is incredibly good looking. She is getting

1064
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: highly paid to play an iconic character in one of

1065
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: the most prestigious and well liked companies until the last

1066
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: few years in American history when it comes to entertainment,

1067
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 3: And what did she just say?

1068
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: There? Woe is me.

1069
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: I'm a victim. I had no idea what I was

1070
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: stepping into. You're an actress, You're playing an iconic role.

1071
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: Your life is not hard. I'm sorry. Suck it up, Buttercup.

1072
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: And how about this buck? I wonder on some level

1073
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 3: whether Disney is gonna bat Girl this movie? Remember Batgirl?

1074
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: They watched it and they said it's so bad. At

1075
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: Warner Brothers, they just burned it. They're not even going

1076
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: to release it. They spend one hundred million on it,

1077
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: and they were like, this is a failure. We're taking

1078
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: the right tax right off. I wonder Disney's going to

1079
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: take a DAC tax right off on the new snow White.

1080
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: I really do I don't.

1081
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it has happened before, so you can

1082
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: never say never. But well, they're putting a lot of

1083
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: money into this, and this is I think we're a

1084
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: different environment here. I mean to tie this into some

1085
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 4: of the bigger things we're seeing. Target stock price its

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Speaker 4: way down, bud Light is a beat. Do you even

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Speaker 4: they were diving it away by the case, and now

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Speaker 4: I think they're just not even stocking it on shelves anymore.

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Speaker 4: Bud Light has been destroyed as a brand. Target has

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Speaker 4: gotten hit pretty seriously as a stock. You know, Disney

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Speaker 4: and Ron DeSantis that there was that whole tangle. I

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Speaker 4: think that these companies are starting to realize now that

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Speaker 4: it's like the sleeping giant of the right has woken

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Speaker 4: up and is not happy with all this woke stuff,

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Speaker 4: and it really you know what it really was when

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Speaker 4: they're going after it's the transgender stuff, yes, but also

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Speaker 4: going after the kids, trying to indoctrinate kids. That was

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Speaker 4: certainly the case with some of the backlash to the

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Speaker 4: Pride displays at Target. People have just had enough. So

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying is I think Disney, I think the

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Speaker 4: Disney of a few years ago be like, whatever, we're Disney,

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Speaker 4: We're on the cutting edge. We're progressive. That's how we

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Speaker 4: do things now. And now they might be like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Just kidding, we don't mean it.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about buck, the panic that the pr

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Speaker 3: people had. Pr somehow got what's this actress's name, Rachel,

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Speaker 3: what's her name, Rachel Zegler. I have no idea what

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Speaker 3: she's done before. All right, so she's snow White to me,

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you. They got little snow White there on

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Speaker 3: the phone and they said, hey, millions of people have

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Speaker 3: watched your arrogant, condescending interview where you detegrate everything that

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00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: people loved about the character that you're playing, and also

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00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: insulted anyone who liked the original movie and said the

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Speaker 3: new one was going to be nothing like it, and

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Speaker 3: so you should maybe go out there and make it

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Speaker 3: clear that that's not really what you meant.

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Speaker 2: And then she puts out a new video, and it

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Speaker 2: makes me like her.

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Speaker 3: Even less because at least if she buck, if she

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Speaker 3: had just owned it and been like, hey, I think

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Speaker 3: that the original snow White is sexist.

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Speaker 2: I think that it is that it is indefensible.

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Speaker 3: That they want girls to grow up and marry princesses,

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Speaker 3: and I stand nothing for it. I think dwarves or demeaned.

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Speaker 3: I would think she was alone, but at least she

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Speaker 3: would own what she's saying. Now she's like, oh, people

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Speaker 3: are paying too much attention to what I say, and

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Speaker 3: they're taking everything out of I set out of context.

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Speaker 3: If you play a substantial portion of a quote from someone.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's.

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Speaker 3: Considered taking it out of context, right, if you take

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Speaker 3: one sentence out of a larger paragraph. I think everybody

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Speaker 3: kind of got the sense that she wants to modernize

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Speaker 3: Snow White and thinks the old one is outdated and antiquated.

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Speaker 3: And guess what, most Disney viewers, I don't think think that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think most parents who put their kids down

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Speaker 3: in front of that movie think it.

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Speaker 4: And I have to wonder. I have to wonder how

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Speaker 4: Disney is going to continue to respond.

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Speaker 2: Let's say that this is a wow.

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Speaker 4: Snow White was at its time the highest grossing film

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Speaker 4: of all time. Yeah, until Gone with the Wind took

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00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: the title. White was in its time the ultimate box

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Speaker 4: office So yeah, way bigger.

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Speaker 2: I think. Then. Let me see, I'm trying to check

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Speaker 2: the Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There are people out there that are angry because you

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00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 3: just basically took a shot at Bambi Peter Pan, like

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Speaker 3: you just totally dismissed all all of the original iconic.

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Speaker 4: I'm just looking at get dollars and cents there. But

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Speaker 4: I don't throw me under the bus on this.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't want Big Disney coming for you,

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Speaker 3: because Peter Pan and Bambi fans out there just are

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Speaker 3: are driving off the road when you took shots at

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Speaker 3: them with the snow White.

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Speaker 4: So you'd have to look at adjusted for inflation, and

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00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 4: all that snow White and the seven Dwarves made one

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Speaker 4: point four eight million dollars in nineteen thirty seven, so

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Speaker 4: it goes way back. Sleeping Beauty in nineteen fifty nine,

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Speaker 4: so a couple of decades later made six million dollars,

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Speaker 4: and then Beauty and the Beast in nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 4: made twenty five million dollars, and that's obviously very different

1165
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Speaker 4: in terms of adjusting for that. It's not adjusted for inflation.

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Speaker 4: But those are like the original Disney super hits, if

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Speaker 4: you will.

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Speaker 3: It was so popular Buck they made at the nineteen

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Speaker 3: thirty seven Oscars, maybe the nineteen thirty eight Oscars. They

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Speaker 3: made Walt Disney a special Oscar with seven little dwarves

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Speaker 3: alongside of the Oscar statuette. And I believe it's still

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Speaker 3: the case if you adjust for inflation. I could be

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Speaker 3: wrong on this, but I think gone with the Win,

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Speaker 3: which came out in nineteen thirty nine, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 3: I think It's still the highest grossing movie of all

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Speaker 3: time if you adjust for box office inflation, because obviously

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Speaker 3: a ticket today costs fifteen dollars or whatever it costs

1178
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Speaker 3: to go to a movie, compared to probably twenty cents

1179
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: when I would bet something like that when Disney were

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Speaker 3: when the Snow White movie came out.

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Speaker 4: I don't have kids, so I don't know about these

1182
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Speaker 4: things anymore. But Tangled? Did you even know there was

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01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 4: a Disney movie called Tangled? According to this, I made

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Speaker 4: two hundred and sixty million dollars in twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's basically the Rapunzel story, right, am I right

1186
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Speaker 3: about that? You tell me to go with long hair

1187
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Speaker 3: in a castle? If I remember correctly.

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Speaker 4: And I left out Cinderella. Cinderella nineteen fifty made two

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