WEBVTT - QLS Celebrates Womens History Month Part 3 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.040 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.760 Welcome back to Quest Love Supreme and we're celebrating Women's 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.239 History Month here in March with some special programming drawn 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.160 from nearly a decade of shows and conversations. And shout 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.119 out to Laya from Team Supreme who always pushed the 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.040 programming to QLs to make sure that there is space 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.920 for these conversations to even happen, especially at times when 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.720 the team was sometimes crowded by guys. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:35.040 In the room. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:43.400 Yes, we are guilty. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:49.640 It's so weird how we take for granted women's roles 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.720 in music and in history. I remember as a child 0:00:54.360 --> 0:01:02.280 oftentimes getting records and legit being shocked. I remember one 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.760 time my aunt was a part of the Columbia Music House. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.680 Asked your parents about that at Google Columbia Music House 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:15.160 that was the original Spotify. That's how we got records rapidly. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:20.600 And one day we got night Birds by label in 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:21.759 the package in the mail. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:23.959 I believe that was the. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.080 Very first time that I saw all women on an 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.280 album cover and I kept staring at it, and I 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.959 remember asking my aunt. I was like four years old, 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.720 and night Birds is the LaBelle album that kind of 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.360 like brought them to prominence. Of course, their timeless Lady 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:45.000 Marmalade was the lead single, that Monster single from that album. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.680 And I remember asking my aunt, like, are women allowed 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.760 to make music? And you know, it's so weird how 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.640 even at the age of four I had to ask 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.800 that question, but because you know, you just often didn't 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:03.520 see such a thing, which now you know, after having 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.720 worked on the slo and the Family Stone documentary, I 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.359 see how revolutionary sly Stone was in nineteen sixty seven. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:16.080 As far as like ginger pairing is concerned, seeing Cynthia 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.400 Robinson on the trumpet, that's something you just didn't see 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.200 every day, you know, you didn't see those things. I 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.880 remember there was a group called Ecstasy, Passion and Pain 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.520 from Philadelphia and they had a drummer named Cookie and 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.600 they were on Soul Train, and I was like, wow, 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:32.360 girls are allowed. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:32.800 To play drums? 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.440 Like And you know, I lived in a household with 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.760 three women, my aunt, my sister, and my mother, and 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:44.840 they were constantly, constantly reprogramming me to always give consideration 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.959 to women and to give them their proper do and 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.320 their proper respect. And so that's kind of how it 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.720 starts with me, and you know, as a result, women. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.760 Were a big part of our creative circle. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.440 Like you know, if you just look at the first 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.280 movement of jam sessions that we had with Black Lily, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:08.600 primarily female led, simply because when that movement started out 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.000 initially as the Roots Jam session, a lot of the 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.000 women that would come would just be huddled up in 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.919 the corner rather, you know, kind of pissed off that 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.760 they're not getting any time on the microphone. Like they 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.840 would sing for like two seconds and then suddenly like 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.160 an MC would come on and. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.240 Then you know, they just give up and walk away 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:31.520 in the corner. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.360 I remember one particular night there's epic battle between Tracy 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:39.240 and the Jazzy Fat Nasties and Rest in Peace Mum's 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.440 the poet, and they were going at each other and 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.480 Tracy was getting in his ass like like I'm tired 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.080 of y'all hogging up the microphone not giving us our 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:47.960 say and whatever. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.120 You know, Richard Nichols is his whole solution. Rich's job 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.040 was always to come with this solution. He didn't break 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.440 up arguments, He just came up with the solution. The 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:03.240 solution was, Okay, we will now start a female led 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.360 jam session so that women get their say. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.640 And that's the Black Lily Jam sessions for you. 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:14.400 So shout out to Tracy for holding it down. This 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:15.040 is part three. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:26.120 Enjoy all right, So we're going to begin with the 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:30.599 amazing Tracy Ellis Ross. In this clip, she speaks about 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.040 wishing to use the physical life changes that women experience 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.880 to push her towards stand up. This conversation also touches 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.720 on Blackish covering postpartum and how Tracy had a complicated 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:47.000 relationship being an actress with a very famous mother. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.200 I really enjoyed this conversation. 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:56.080 I always tried to imagine what it was like to 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.679 grow up in Los Angeles or Hollywood. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:00.839 Assume that you grew up. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:01.800 I grew up in New York. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.600 Really yeah, New York, New York and Europe. So I 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.839 was born here in La I went to the Center, 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.280 and then we moved to New York so my mom 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:13.360 could do the whiz in seventy nine, and we left 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.159 and started school in New York in seventy. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:20.600 Nine and stayed there until seventh grade. And I'm we 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.000 moved to Paris and then Switzerland. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.520 So I did eighth and ninth grade in Europe, which 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.560 are pivotal years, and then moved back to the East 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.039 Coast and then went to Brown. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:37.159 You've got a couple of languages and maybe oh. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.080 I just forgot all my friendship. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.919 I have lost most of my vocabulary, but I have 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.039 a strong French accent that can you know, get me 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.760 by and I can speak English with a French accent 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:55.840 like nobody's business. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.680 Then you have no idea because you don't know that 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.680 I speak English of conscience doesn't matter because the people 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.880 they wander and don't know how you stay in English 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:05.640 because the people are their wonder all the time. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.360 You know how you say, how you say? 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:09.240 Uh? 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:09.520 You know? 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:14.320 Wait, I'm sorry, I mean almos Tracy, Tracy? 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:14.880 Do you right? 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:16.320 I do? 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:17.640 I write so me. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.640 It's funny because I was just thinking you. I know 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.839 you've done improv. I seen you sketch comedy with the 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.320 lyricists lounge. Of course, You're a funny lady. How come 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.320 and I know your I a stand up? Have you 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.040 ever thought of like just doing. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.880 I've not done stand up, but I have to tell 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.039 you I mean this. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:32.960 I'm forty eight years old. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.240 At my forty eight, I'm forty eight and I'm going 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:41.360 through the beginning of some changes, some perimenopause, and I've 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.520 got to tell you that I really get to stand 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.719 up on this ship because I, first of all, it's 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:51.640 got Did you see the that two second pool video 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:52.320 I posted? 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:59.320 Yes, thoughts there, I heard about that fool video. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:06:59.840 It's funny. 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:04.640 I think it's two seconds. It's two seconds in. 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.880 That videocy Mater you was in a bathing suit. That's 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.359 what I heard. That's all I had in a pool. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.679 I mean, you know, I have a like it wasn't 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.480 me in a bathing suit in the kitchen. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:17.680 Actually in the pool. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.560 Yeah, I was like, why is this two seconds? 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:22.160 You should do that? 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.280 Because a female comedian told me that female shouldn't talk 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.240 about female issues, so please do that. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.480 Why was I. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.080 Wish more people would talk about it. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.400 I mean, I don't know about you, but some of 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.480 the sexiest and most admirable women that I look at 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.720 are my age and older. I want to know what's 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.480 happening and it's. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.000 Still happening, and how it happens and what. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.040 It is, and like it should be demystified. And I 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.800 don't think it should be scary to men either. I 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.080 think it's it's certainly not the end of my life. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.080 I am not being pushed out on a canoe out 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:53.760 into nowhere. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:54.880 I'll tell you that right now. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.760 I as I said before, I am a liberated woman. I 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.800 am out here living my life in all. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:00.600 Of its fullness. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.120 Well yeah, and I think people we should talk about 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.480 it in that way so that we let go of 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.320 the stigma. It's the same thing like on Blackish when 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.920 we did that episode on postpartum depression. Why are we 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.240 not talking about these things when you're siloed off by yourself. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.760 That's when you feel termally unique and you don't think 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.280 that you can you know, it's just you that's in 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:21.000 that situation. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:22.240 Nah, We're all doing it. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.520 And by the way, men have their own version of 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.240 what's happening at this age as their home hormones are 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:28.200 shifting and changing. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.360 Yeah, yeah, hey, well yeah, I was about to say, 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.080 will set it off yesterday, even though this is coming. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:35.440 On way later. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.200 Oh my god, that was so charming and lovely that 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:38.800 he did that. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.360 And that was my favorite post. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:41.960 Yes, it was so lovely. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.800 But I also have to say, like a friend, so 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.600 many friends and me a text. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.480 I did a video on that on Instagram too of 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.800 people saying you have gained so much weight. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.640 Good, bravo, thank your body. You just made it through 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.439 a pandemic. What else were you supposed to do? And 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.679 I'm sorry, but that layer of softness welcome it because 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.880 the ship was hard and scary and sharp out there. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:04.440 Everybody make it? 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.840 No, you know, and so and and our joy and 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.680 spontaneity was all funneled into very few spaces, most of 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.480 which involved food and drink. So what y'all thought was 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:20.800 gonna happen? And you well, I've never done that, but 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:21.680 you know that. 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.000 But don't worry. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.320 I had It's okay, I'm okay. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.439 No truth, you never had, no true at all. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.760 No, and my friends know. I call it the devil's lettuce. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.559 Why did they let you in? The lyricsis lounge? 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:38.000 I didn't. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:38.840 I don't know. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:40.000 I don't know. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.920 It can happen. I'm gonna leave bloom or two trades. Yeah, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.559 I will guide you through this. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.360 Yeah, I've been I've been saying. I mean, I have 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.680 so many stories about me thinking I'm gonna walk that 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:52.040 way and. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.400 Wait till fifty. Just go ahead of wait till fifty. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.800 Okay, maybe it'll be my fiftieth birthday, You're gonna send 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:57.400 me a package. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.760 I'll leave the light one for you. Trust me, I 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.440 got I got you, Okay. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.520 So I always wanted to know, as far as you're 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.160 growing up as concerned and that you were paired with 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.040 other kids that were sort of in the same position 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.000 as you, at what point, at any point, did you 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.400 ever had to adjust in a world in which people 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.360 weren't of that sort of cut from that that same cloth, 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.319 where you had to deal with everyday people, Like, at 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:28.880 what point. 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.240 Were you every day in life? I mean I was, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:31.600 you know. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.920 I First of all, the way I was raised again 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:36.720 is everybody is a person. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.640 I am one of people. I was not raised to 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:40.960 think I was better than anybody. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:46.080 I had certain different opportunities and experiences than other people, 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.440 but I was always taught to connect on the places 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.520 that we are the same. We've all got blood running 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.040 through our veins, and we all have feelings, and we all, 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.840 most of us are getting up every day trying to 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.520 do our best and work our hardest and and sort 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.040 of make at least our lives work. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.480 And function properly. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.280 So I also come I don't know if I was 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.800 top this, if I came up with this, if. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:16.400 You know, but to sort of put my. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.040 My humanness as the front runner of who I am not. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.480 And first of all, I didn't do that. My mom 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.920 did all those things. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.080 She did. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.280 She keep you around like a couple of Detroit cousins 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:27.520 just to make sure it does y'all new. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.960 I went to Detroit every summer, and that's how you 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:32.400 do it. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.480 Yeah, on a palette on the floor and on Bobby's 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.640 house up the street from Grandmammy and Aunt. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:39.520 Bobby sat me. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.360 Between her legs and did my hair with that goodie 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:46.200 comb and tried to kill my scalp. And you know, Grandmommy, 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.480 my Grandma lined us up outside the fancy bathroom downstairs 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.880 and put all the cousins and put mayonnaise in our 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.440 hair on the on the laid on the kitchen sink, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.760 put our head in the sink, and then filled our 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.880 hair with mayonnaise. You had to walk around smell on 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.160 like a sandwich forever to getition your hair. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.480 I mean, all all of our cousins and boys and girls. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.440 It wasn't just the girl. The girls like the boys 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:07.719 and girl. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.839 We all got lined up step and Monica Kevin Kevin 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.320 we all just line up. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.000 We see that in Rainbow. That is so beautiful, that's dope, 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.080 it's funny. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.280 So so yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, we weren't 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:23.880 sheltered to be up in some crystal palace somewhere, although. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:27.840 We lived, you know, in a hotel, and I'm not 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:28.720 to work in. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.839 A rolls at the school at a rolls verse every 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.480 day with a driver by the name of Bartha. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.160 But that's. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:37.400 As you do. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:42.360 Wait a minute, okay, so yeah, like, okay, so these 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:43.800 things also did happen. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:45.760 I'm not saying they didn't, but. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.840 Wow, that's amazing. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.199 Christmas in a ritz. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.640 But then we were in Detroit in the summer. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:59.360 So they did you. 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:02.360 I know that singing at least when when I first 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:07.040 met you in the early arts, singing was always a 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.560 big passion of yours. With a household like yours, in 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.720 an environment like you grew up in, how easy was 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.880 it for you to express the desire to want to 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.559 do something in the arts or not be shy about. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:26.640 It, Like Harry, My mother supported us in finding our 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.160 version of expression in whatever that looked like. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.280 But you know, are you the only singing ross? 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.880 No, Roonda is a singer. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.600 Evan's a singer. I'm the last. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:39.960 I forgot your brother, Evan Ross. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.280 That's okay, I'm the last to the party. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.560 And it's so funny because I remember, I can't remember 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.000 how many years ago it was, but my mom was 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.560 in Vegas and on stage and she was like, you know, 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:51.840 my children sing. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.160 Blah blah blah whatever, and I want to bring someone 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:55.000 up to sing with me. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.880 And I'm like standing there, like, go ahead, Evan, go ahead, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.560 you know whatever, and she said. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.200 My name, and I was like, with what's happening right now? 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.880 I was like, this is not my thing. I'm the 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.960 funny one. What are we doing? What's happening? 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.920 And she made me sing on stage and it was 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:14.040 so hilarious because if you watch the video, you see. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:18.720 My mom turn into my mom and thinks, oh no. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.600 Did I just put Tracy put my baby in a 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.400 position that she didn't want to be in inadvertently, like 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.359 did I make her put her, you know, too exposed 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:30.560 on something that makes her shy? 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.640 And she sort of she got this tone in her 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:34.760 voice that was such. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.040 My mom's tone of okay, everybody be quiet because this 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.960 is important, like we need we need to support this moment? 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:41.520 Be quiet? 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.960 Are you speaking of the infamous when she puts people 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.720 on the spot to sing reach out in touch? 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.800 No, she put me on stage and had me sing 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:55.960 sing like Billie Holiday. Oh, Like I was sing that 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.960 around the house and she was like, go ahead, did you? 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.640 Because every time I mean, I sang in high school 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:03.920 and whatever, every time I sang. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.080 When I was twenty two, my mom said to me, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.680 all right, Tracy, it's time. And I was like, it's 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.000 time for what? She's like, it's time for you to 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:11.680 record an album? 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.840 And I was like, hell, no, no, no, no, no no. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.720 No no no, I'm gonna go the other way. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.640 Nope, We're gonna make people laugh and we're just gonna 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.280 keep them at arm's length and that'll be good. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:27.320 But why, Okay, in hindsight, why do you think that 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:28.200 was your decision? 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:29.360 Uh? 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:30.440 For a lot of reasons. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:35.440 I think unconsciously, I the idea of being. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.400 Compared to my mom was just too much to think of. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:45.800 I had also seen children of be obliterated in the press, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:50.320 just shredded, And you think back to that time and 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.920 being the child of or any of those things. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.280 That's not that was not cool. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.400 Then that was not something that was also the time 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.080 when you didn't move from TV to movies, when you 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.160 didn't move from being a host to an actor, Like 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:09.600 everything was very pigeonholed, and there certainly wasn't this spirit 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.800 of oh, you're Dona Ross as child. Maybe you want 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.040 to say, well, no, not at all. And I look 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.120 like my mom, And the truth is I sound kind 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:22.240 of like her. So you know, there was no you 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.720 put you as soon as you put a sparkly dress 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.680 on me. I mean, I've seen it now, I've won 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.400 a Golden Globe. I've been doing working in the I'm 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.680 forty eight years old. I'm not a child anymore, and 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.360 I still cannot do anything without my mom's name. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.440 Like maybe my mom is just like it's she's larger, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:43.280 she's an. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.640 Interesting let me but let me interject. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:54.840 I definitely now feel as though, you know, to Dinah Ross, 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.840 it's like, yo, Tracy Ellis is your daughter, Like, yeah, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:03.200 you've done You've definitely done something that is I don't 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.840 know if any person, maybe Janet Overcoming who her her 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.320 brothers were to be in her own right, but. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.840 Yeah, like you made your own name though, Yeah, yeah, you're. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.679 When history books are written like you know, you have 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.280 your own and not even to compare like that, you know, 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:22.919 like we can. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.399 All well that was part of what I came to, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.000 I mean and understood it's like and an adult mind 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.240 can look at it that way, but a kid cannot. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:32.600 And so now I. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.560 Know, like I'm not my mom right. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.920 Like I'm not trying to be here, I'm not like never, 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.080 that's not what's happening. But as a kid, you think you. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.320 Know and you have something that's really super special. I 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.800 was going to ask you because your production company is 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.840 named Joy Mills, but I'm assuming that you're aware that 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.280 you have that superpower and that's why you named it that. 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.639 Are you aware that like Tracy Ella's Ross is a 0:17:58.760 --> 0:17:59.880 joy bringer. 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.240 That like makes my heart very very full. 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:05.439 I'm just trying to tell you. 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:12.440 My I was born Tracy Joy Silverstein. That's my name, 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:14.560 so right. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.680 Now, so because I'm like, well what about mister Ellen. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.120 Okay, okay, go ahead, Okay, So this is and that 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.119 was the third point okay about my dad. 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.640 So when I joined so like many kids, uh so. 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.479 Then I was Tracy Joy Ross Silberstein. All through growing up, 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.879 t j R S were my initials all through growing up. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.680 But then, like so many people, you dropped this name. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.080 That name is too long. I was Tracy Joy Ross. 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.600 You know what I mean, drop these names too many names. 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.960 So I became Tracy Joy Ross. And then when I 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.160 joined SAG there was another Tracy Ross. 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:55.280 In the Union. Remember Tracy Ross. She was. 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:55.960 Yes. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:01.720 I thought, yeah, that very god she grew up. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.600 Wow, I didn't know you were my age. 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.720 I thought like, you know, we don't all look alike. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:08.800 They looked nothing alive. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.639 I heard the name Tracy Ellis. I remember watching that 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.359 Tracy Ross on Star Search. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:16.080 He was a hero. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.920 And then she thought like, oh, that's Diana Ross's daughter. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.359 That's the one she talked about. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.600 When I joined the Union, there was another Tracy Ross. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.399 So they were like, uh, do you want to be 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.560 Tracy Joy Ross in the Union? And I was like yes, 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.760 But everybody like I look like my mom, and people 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.560 know I'm my mom's child and I'm so much a 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.440 product of both of my parents, Like. 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.680