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Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison, Wake Up.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys Nation.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Girls Star Boys Talk presented by Invisa Line in.

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Speaker 2: The SWBC studio.

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Speaker 3: I'm Nicole Hutchison alongside Marianna Aldridge, Aisha Morrison.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, morning, I gotta do.

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Speaker 4: It's okay.

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Speaker 5: It a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, good morning. You have the real thing

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Speaker 2: in the flesh.

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Speaker 5: Wake ups back to back Christmas. Wake up like a

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Speaker 5: little mixtape.

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Speaker 2: We wake up mixtape like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my cousin produces. We'll see. She can really let's see,

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Speaker 4: she would make a little mix for you.

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Speaker 5: I can really wrap him drop a mixtape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fact.

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Speaker 5: It's a fact.

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Speaker 4: Wake Up, Barnacles. The drop is gonna be.

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Speaker 2: That's sick.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna bop like that.

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Speaker 4: Barnacles look better.

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Speaker 5: We need a hook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Anywayslet's put Chris on the hook that part.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, while we're figuring that out, the Cowboys got

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Speaker 3: a lot to figure out because that injury report was

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Speaker 3: lengthy yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I show what do you have for the injury

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Speaker 2: report today? Today? There we go.

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Speaker 4: Uh is looking like a what is what? What is it?

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Speaker 4: At the beginning of a book?

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Speaker 5: The table. It's long, but normally I type it out.

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Speaker 5: I told when I tweeted it out and tagged the station,

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Speaker 5: I was like, it's too long to type today, so I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just taking a picture.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're gonna get through the dude did not

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Speaker 6: practice humans. Uh, Tyler Booker with the ankle, did not practice.

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Speaker 6: But it does sound like he's trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 6: Ceedee lamb. Same with what Schottenheimer said yesterday, is that

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Speaker 6: he feels like they're training in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I think it is tell somewhere else for wow, Jackson

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Speaker 6: Born is still in concussion of protocol. He did not

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Speaker 6: practice yesterday. Cavante Turpin dealing with the foot sounds like

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Speaker 6: you ladies. I saw you ladies send out some information

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Speaker 6: saying that he was very vocal.

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Speaker 4: And honest about the fact that he probably won't go

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Speaker 4: this week.

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Speaker 6: I think you won't. I think you can manage without him.

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Speaker 4: This week.

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Speaker 6: Donovan Wilson is dealing with the elbow slash need that

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Speaker 6: feels huge for that safety room, so we might see

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Speaker 6: some changes there depending on how things are later.

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Speaker 2: In the week.

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Speaker 4: Let's stop with the Barnacles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, great, great, great, Start with the do not.

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Speaker 3: Participate guys yesterday or five. I'm swimming all right, count

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Speaker 3: it's their cavante. Turpin got a chance to catch up

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Speaker 3: with him in locker room. I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 3: he even told me that he's going to be back. Well,

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Speaker 3: he's expecting to be back next week. I've also heard

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Speaker 3: that ceedee lamb, it's trying to get back next week.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we'll hear from the coordinators and Shottenheimer well

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Speaker 3: coordinators tomorrow, Shottenheimer Friday to get that confirmation. But it's right,

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Speaker 3: Today's Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Goodness, it's okay, No, it's okay, it's okay.

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Speaker 5: I's great today, Yeah, today's day.

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Speaker 3: We hear from corodinators, then we hear from Shaddy tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he will confirm that.

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Speaker 3: But it does look like you know what I should

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Speaker 3: mention those guys are trending.

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Speaker 2: In the right direction.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like as of right now, confidence level

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Speaker 3: in the receiver room with.

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Speaker 6: What you got, what's what's looking like, it's pretty yeah high,

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Speaker 6: And I know we're going to get into this panther

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Speaker 6: secondary a little bit more today. I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: I think they'll be alright.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love how much just hearing from Pickins yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I know we hear from CD later today, most likely

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Speaker 5: because it's our Thursday for him, but just even Tamante

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Speaker 5: Turpin who's not in like the it feels like not

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Speaker 5: only for them before each other, and it just feels

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Speaker 5: it feels light. It feels like kiddish high school type

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Speaker 5: of energy college culture that we were talking about. Just

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Speaker 5: to see George Pickens kind of light up when he's

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Speaker 5: talking about flow right, and how like the guys everyone

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Speaker 5: is so happy from the coaching staff, Like the other

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Speaker 5: day Shaannenheimer talked about he's just so proud of him,

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Speaker 5: me so happy he's worked so hard for this. We've

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Speaker 5: talked about it, but to hear like the guys he

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Speaker 5: for him. And then Cavante Turpin, he was hilarious yesterday

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Speaker 5: if that I know that videos posted on Dallas Cowboys YouTube.

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Speaker 5: It's hilarious. His spirit. He's ready to be back on

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Speaker 5: that field. But even I think on the sidelines, just

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Speaker 5: seeing the offense click without him be able to keep going.

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Speaker 5: I think CD two will hear from him. And we

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Speaker 5: heard a love from last week as well. You see

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Speaker 5: clips online of CD is like a proud dad, like

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Speaker 5: he's so hyped and he's like, that's a touchdown like

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Speaker 5: before it's even happening for Flow, for Pickens, and I

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Speaker 5: think that's just the difference this year in the offense,

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Speaker 5: not saying that that's wasn't there last year, like rooting

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Speaker 5: for each other, but it's so visible this year. It's

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Speaker 5: contagious and it seems like cliche, but honestly, like we

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Speaker 5: just had a good time just listening to Pickens and

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Speaker 5: just how everything's clicking. And yes, it's early and they're

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Speaker 5: kind of like, you know, they don't want to tooth

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Speaker 5: thirw on horn because it is very early in the season.

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Speaker 5: But also like, look what we're doing right, So I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to hear from Dak what he has to

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Speaker 5: say later on. But this is good stuff offensively, Like

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Speaker 5: I could talk about the Cowboys offense all day because

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Speaker 5: it's fun.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, go ahead, sorry, you got to okay, your.

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Speaker 4: Head coaches seems fun.

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Speaker 6: Even him clapping back yesterday and just like some of

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Speaker 6: his vibe and just listen to him break down how

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Speaker 6: he looks at offense. I was like, he gets it,

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Speaker 6: and that's exciting. And I think, say what you want

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Speaker 6: to say, but players know, players know what works in

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Speaker 6: the league. They be watching games, they be playing mad

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Speaker 6: and they know they but they do.

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Speaker 4: They know what works offensively in this game.

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Speaker 6: And even when I had the opportunity to be in

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Speaker 6: the locker room conversations you've had with offensive players, they

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Speaker 6: they're confident because again, they know the trends of the league.

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Speaker 4: They know what's effective.

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Speaker 6: And Schottenheimer is really implementing some of the more positive

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Speaker 6: things that are done in the NFL on the offensive

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Speaker 6: side of the ball, and I think that that's also

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Speaker 6: what you're seeing. And then the input as well, they're

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Speaker 6: allowed to input, even on side of the sideline. You

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Speaker 6: saw that Dak them Pickens and Dak building a connection.

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Speaker 6: Is that you got a quarterback that's playing at this

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Speaker 6: level that he can see stuff.

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Speaker 4: You guys can come together.

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Speaker 6: Dak tells Pickens just run because he's like, I know

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Speaker 6: that you're gonna get this one on one and I

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Speaker 6: know you can beat this guy. And that's that's high

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Speaker 6: level offense. That's just being aware, and I think these

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Speaker 6: guys are excited to just be playing at that level.

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Speaker 4: Like you're saying, free, All.

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Speaker 2: Right, well let's go into Jack Sanbourne.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, coose.

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Speaker 2: That live backer room there, you saw Shamar James, Mary's leu.

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Speaker 3: Foul, Kenneth Murray getting some work in your yesterday together. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: you know the team's prepping for if Jack Sanborne will

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Speaker 3: not be there this week.

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Speaker 2: So just talk about those guys. Do y'all like that group?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 4: Better?

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Speaker 2: We say, do y'all like those three playing together?

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Speaker 5: Better?

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Speaker 3: Then Jack Sanborne Manning man in the middle and then

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Speaker 3: Kenneth Murray.

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Speaker 6: So it's kind of hard because when you watch Jack Sanbourne,

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Speaker 6: it's not that like you can literally see him. You

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Speaker 6: see him reading the plays, he just.

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Speaker 4: Is not fast enough to get there actively.

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Speaker 6: And then when you look at Murray, who's gonna be

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Speaker 6: running the mic, some of his processing, some of his

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Speaker 6: decision making is not as quick triggered as you will like.

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Speaker 7: And then you got the Nuggets who just out.

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Speaker 6: There playing, running and sometimes running into the wrong run

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Cowboys have.

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Speaker 6: One of the worst tackling teams in NFL as well,

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Speaker 6: and a lot of that's coming from the second level.

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Speaker 6: They gotta regardless of who's out there, they got to

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Speaker 6: be better tackling. They gotta better angles, they gotta be

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Speaker 6: It's just I don't at that unit has room to improve.

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Speaker 6: I will say that I think that the younger guys

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Speaker 6: at least they fast enough.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Shoanheimer, i mean he literally talks about it

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Speaker 5: feels like every single week they gotta be better at

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Speaker 5: the second level, they got to be better at tackling.

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Speaker 5: And it's like at some point like where's the change,

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Speaker 5: And you saw the change. It was a force change

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Speaker 5: because Samborne went out, but it did. We talked about

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Speaker 5: that too. When it happened when Christy was here. I know,

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Speaker 5: just she's on the sideline right like a little closer

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Speaker 5: than all of us are in just the feeling of

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Speaker 5: the defense, the flow of it. Yes, there's those mistakes,

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Speaker 5: but I think Maris like just to see him change

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Speaker 5: the tempo of the game.

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Speaker 4: He at least makes players.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, you didn't see the bonehead penalties like you

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Speaker 5: did the week before where it was like we were

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Speaker 5: rooting for him and then it was just like what

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Speaker 5: up literally every week, like, Okay, when does a Maris

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Speaker 5: get more snaps? What are you seeing from? What do

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Speaker 5: you need to see more from you know, Shamar James

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Speaker 5: to get out there or what have you? Do you

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Speaker 5: still have faith in Samborn like that comes up every time,

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Speaker 5: and he does like he talks about him playing well

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Speaker 5: and leading the guys like I used to said, but

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Speaker 5: it does feel like he's always just like a half

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Speaker 5: And I feel like every time I'm looking at my

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Speaker 5: and it's always him. I feel like I'm just like, well,

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Speaker 5: because teams areeams.

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Speaker 6: Teams have been more too, so it's like, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 6: teams have been attacking you. But to your point, I

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Speaker 4: He was limited. Jdaveon Clowney hip limited. No like that U.

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Speaker 5: What you got, Brie, Yeah, I mean a lot of

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Speaker 4: It feels weird.

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Speaker 6: I mean, bell cows don't exist. I mean, and Shotty

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Speaker 5: So I wouldn't be surprised if he's out there again,

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Speaker 5: especially if Miles Sanders is still nicked up. But I

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Speaker 5: do think even though Miles Sanders wasn't getting you know,

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Speaker 5: the bulk of the carries, I think he did what

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Speaker 5: you wanted your second running back to do, so I.

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Speaker 4: He was efficient when he did get the ball.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're in a rush for the film

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Speaker 5: offa look, even if others are. But I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: nice to know that Pilka film offas in the pocket

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Speaker 5: and necessary hopefully healing up. I know he was dealing

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Speaker 5: with obviously an injury getting on IR early in the season.

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Speaker 2: So all right, darn Bland on this limited list shoulder.

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Speaker 5: But like Christy said Wednesday, he fine, okay that list

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Speaker 5: every week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of sick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they just tragging him along.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I hope that he can can sustain and hopefully just

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Speaker 6: continue to build. Like he's similar to kneeling almost in

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Speaker 6: that sense, is that yeah, yeah, he's similar to kneeling almost.

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Speaker 6: Is that he hasn't had consecutive games where he's played

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Speaker 6: since I mean even at the end of last year

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Speaker 6: he was coming off of surgery, you know, trying to

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Speaker 6: integrate into the defense, and so we're just trying to

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Speaker 6: get my gosh, what is it gonna take to get

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Speaker 6: like these units out there consistently and for some of

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Speaker 6: these guys to you know, build upon their performances the

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, well amongst those of the lists,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, Wyya Thomas h James Houston.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the list is lengthy, so long story short. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: these guys are fine. We'll hear from the coordinators today.

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Speaker 3: To confirm or and if not, we'll hear from a.

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Speaker 3: Course Stottenheimer tomorrow, and I'm sure he will confirm the

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Speaker 2: Your favorites of all time.

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Speaker 5: Just have to throw that out.

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Speaker 2: There, all right, Carolina Hell held Miami too.

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Speaker 3: It's second lowest rushing total in franchise history last week.

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Speaker 4: Ladies gross, absolutely gross.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen yards on design runs is what they held Miami

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Speaker 3: to their run. Stuff's six of the thirteen run stuffs

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Speaker 3: excuse me? Happened before or at.

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Speaker 2: The line of scrimmage?

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Speaker 4: Bo throw up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So what makes this defense so tough against the run

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Speaker 3: despite their ranking being in the middle of the pack statistically.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think is the fact that they went on

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Speaker 6: first and second down and they were able to do

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Speaker 6: that last week, and I got to I listened to

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Speaker 6: their head coach talk about how that really helped them

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Speaker 6: be able to get off the field and to be

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Speaker 6: efficient and so I think it's important. The last couple

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Speaker 6: of weeks, when you look at the Dallas Cowboys, they

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Speaker 6: haven't been as efficient on first and second down you

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Speaker 6: they've been. They were in a lot of third and

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Speaker 6: long situations last week. I didn't like it at all,

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Speaker 6: and so Dallas has to do better at I.

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Speaker 4: Know Shaddy has thrown more on first down.

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Speaker 6: We've seen some we've seen him mix it up a

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Speaker 6: little bit more, but last week it was a lot

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Speaker 6: of run heavy on first down or even with the passes.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't efficient.

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Speaker 6: So they have to be efficient on first and second

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Speaker 6: down and not give this Panthers defensive unit the opportunity

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Speaker 6: to rush the passer. I mean, they're not that efficient,

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Speaker 6: they're not that efficient at it, but they can get

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Speaker 6: some interior push and I think that made the difference

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Speaker 6: for them last week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they were definitely dogwalking the offensive line. I don't

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Speaker 5: know Miami situation of injuries or they just kind of

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Speaker 5: Miami is a hot mess overall. Like that's just what

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Speaker 5: it is. But Schottenheimer mentioned it yesterday. He brought up

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Speaker 5: the name Derek Brown. That's the name that we're gonna

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Speaker 5: be talking about here shortly. He was ragged alling them

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Speaker 5: throughout throughout the game, and just like if you watch

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Speaker 5: the highlights, they were just dominating at the line of

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Speaker 5: scrimmage and giving them as absolutely nothing. And that's what

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Speaker 5: I saw mostly coming from that game. But yeah, like

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Speaker 5: looking at this stat's crazy, yeah, crazy, it's it's kind.

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Speaker 3: No, But I mean it's unfortunate because now we're granted

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Speaker 3: the other four backups, I'll say so second team, true

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Speaker 3: second team aside from Terrence to offensive lineman. They stepped

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Speaker 3: in and like you know, shoddy everybody's talked about, you

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Speaker 3: know the fact that typically when that happens, you don't

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Speaker 3: have success as an offense. Like keeping in a book,

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Speaker 3: and this offense, the Cowboys offense was able to find

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Speaker 3: some success against the Jets last week. But this Panther's

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Speaker 3: defensive front, Bobby Brown and Shawn Robinson, Derrick Brown, I mean,

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Speaker 3: they've got a couple of linebackers and specifically also some

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Speaker 3: corners that can come in and tackle as well. Talk

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Speaker 3: about that defensive front though, because this is now another

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Speaker 3: task for your offensive line. Who granted you saw some

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Speaker 3: dogs up front with Quinn Williams and Franklin Phillips. I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry study Phillips last week, but now you get another

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Speaker 3: test and like this, what's the confidence level in those guys?

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Speaker 2: You feel like they'll be able to manage?

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Speaker 5: I like the confidence is high because I mean, everybody

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Speaker 5: across the league is talking about how good then need

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Speaker 5: to stop talking about the old linemans because hush. I

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Speaker 5: mean they're talking about what you've been hitting on all

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Speaker 5: off seasons. The luxury we have at the old line,

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Speaker 5: and not just that, the ability for you know, Clayton

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Speaker 5: Adams to come in here and scheme with what he's

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Speaker 5: got and knowing what what these guys are specializing in

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Speaker 5: and what these guys don't who what they can stop

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Speaker 5: and making it not being exposed. And then obviously Dak

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Speaker 5: Prescott again, he's the reason why everything looks as great

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Speaker 5: as it does. I don't know if another quarterback comes

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Speaker 5: in here and it looks the same. This is a

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Speaker 5: return home game for mister brock Hoffman, who's been playing

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Speaker 5: pretty adequately holding it down. So I'm expecting the hometown

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Speaker 5: kid to show out in front of the Panthers crowd there.

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Speaker 5: But I think it's going to be again Derek Brown

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Speaker 5: show and who's going to shut him? Down. The big

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Speaker 5: talk last week with the interior was Quinn Williams, and

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Speaker 5: that was an issue for this offensive line. So I

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Speaker 5: don't if anything that gives me the confidence. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Quinn Williams was a guy we talked about you have

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Speaker 5: to prepare for on every down, which is which Schottenheimer

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Speaker 5: called not uncharacteristic of what you typically have to do.

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Speaker 5: I think Derek Brown is another one, and so I'm

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Speaker 5: confident because of what I saw last week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Ashan Robinson is also one of their edges. I

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Speaker 6: think that he's a to you know, disengage and make

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Speaker 6: some tackles in the run as well. So I mean

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Speaker 6: I'm not super terrified of their linebackers.

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Speaker 4: And let me tell you, yeah, they'll help. They'll help

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Speaker 4: in the run, but maybe in the past.

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Speaker 6: So that brings me to my second point is that

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Speaker 6: we know the Dallas's identity. A lot of what they

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Speaker 6: want to do is run the ball. They want to

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Speaker 6: set up play action. They want to be able to

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Speaker 6: you know, Shoddy had a dope breakdown yesterday about marrying

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Speaker 6: to the past and why that's important and to not

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Speaker 6: be predictable in doing so. This is a defense that

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Speaker 6: I think you obviously run the ball to keep them true,

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Speaker 6: but maybe you can pass that thing I expect to

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Speaker 6: see with their linebackers and coverage.

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Speaker 4: I think you also to you know, tight ends.

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Speaker 6: They have struggled against tight ends, especially in the red zone.

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Speaker 4: So maybe we see, you know, Dallas.

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Speaker 6: Be able to take advantage there and attack in the

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Speaker 6: middle of the field with the tight ends. So in

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Speaker 6: regard to you you know, and what there's going on

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Speaker 6: with their defensive line is that they're not rushing the

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Speaker 6: past or entirely well. They were able to get to

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Speaker 6: Miami three times last week.

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Speaker 4: That's almost more than what they have the whole season.

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Speaker 6: And I think a lot of that had to do with,

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Speaker 6: like it's hard to decipher, like what's this team the

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Speaker 6: opponent and what is what this unit is? But this

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Speaker 6: unit has been better against the run this year.

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Speaker 5: Those three sacks against Miami, two of those came from

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Speaker 5: interior guys, and I think that's where.

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Speaker 4: I get comments very important.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're looking at our side as well, and then

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Speaker 5: the linebacker room. They actually made a little switch last

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Speaker 5: week with their green dot, which is interesting. Talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Mister Roseman's kind of been struggling in coverage and like

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Speaker 5: you said, to the tight ends, okay, they've been very

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Speaker 5: much exposed. So he's the five year vet. So they

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Speaker 5: did kind of what we did with Sanborn. The veteran

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Speaker 5: gets the green dot automatically. And they actually made that

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Speaker 5: switch with Trevin Wallace the second the second year linebacker there,

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Speaker 5: he took over. I was listening to coach's post game

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Speaker 5: conference and he was talking about how he felt like

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Speaker 5: that allowed out rose Wind to go over there and

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Speaker 5: play a little bit more free going side to side.

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Speaker 5: So it looks like something they're going to continue, but

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Speaker 5: it sounds like they know they're struggling there, so they're

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Speaker 5: making changes on the fly as well. We know what

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Speaker 5: our issue is on defense, so I'm interested to see

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Speaker 5: what mister Trevin Wallace seems. They seem like they have

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Speaker 5: a lot of confidence in him.

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Speaker 3: I usual made a good point about Shoddy talking about

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Speaker 3: marrying the run in the past and how he kind

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Speaker 3: of pretty much said that, like, we don't want to

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Speaker 3: have no scouting giveaways, no tels, and there's oh my goodness,

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Speaker 3: my handwriting is so bad.

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Speaker 2: But basically we're in the gun.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to let them know that we're throwing

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Speaker 3: it or running it or vice versa, but just not

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Speaker 3: really being able to disguise their looks a lot better.

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Speaker 3: And obviously this identity of this team is wanting to

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Speaker 3: run the football through Javonte Williams opened.

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Speaker 4: Up the pass.

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Speaker 2: What should be the offensive emphasis early though?

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Speaker 3: Should it be test the run defense or child and

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Speaker 3: those challenge their cornerbacks.

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Speaker 2: What do y'all think?

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Speaker 6: Tater tized, I think they're gonna do? I think they're

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Speaker 6: gonna run the ball, y'all?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I don't. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 4: I think they're gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean because because you could pass the ball,

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Speaker 6: of course, like there are you know, places to take

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Speaker 6: advantage and maybe maybe you run the ball with the

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Speaker 6: way that's how kind of people are running the ball

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Speaker 6: with you, with the attack and the flats and you know,

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Speaker 6: getting the running backs involved in the receiving game like

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Speaker 6: a Javante and things like that, attacking their linebackers that

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Speaker 6: way where it's not running the ball, but it is

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Speaker 6: technically running the ball in a sense, maybe even set

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Speaker 6: up the screen game because that's something your defensive struggling

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Speaker 6: with that they have struggled with that as well. I

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Speaker 6: just feel like Dave Kanell is their their head coach.

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Speaker 6: He mentioned he actually did mention that they're trying to

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Speaker 6: pick up on tails, that they're trying to pick up

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Speaker 6: on some of the things that they see Dallas do

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Speaker 6: because they understand that Dallas can have.

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Speaker 4: This is the value of having a balanced.

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Speaker 6: Attack is that coaches are struggling and we don't even

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Speaker 6: know what they gonna come out and do.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the.

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Speaker 6: Best thing to do against this defensive line is. But

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't just be running up against a brick wall.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be doing that. I think that you could definitely.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously Dallas has taken an uptake and misdirection

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Speaker 6: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: Obviously mix that.

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Speaker 6: In get some of these guys going going east to west.

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Speaker 6: So for me, yeah, just just be efficient on first

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Speaker 6: and second down because they are They don't rush the passer,

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Speaker 6: well we already know that, but you can take advantage

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Speaker 6: of They will take advantage of opportunities to rush the pastor.

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Speaker 4: If you give it to them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I like the sentiment of the locker room yesterday. What

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Speaker 5: they's it's a rico. It was a Rico day and

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Speaker 5: talking back that He's like, you know, we have a

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Speaker 5: lot of respect for Rico. We talked about bringing them back,

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Speaker 5: but ultimately we went with Tovonte Williams. So it is

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Speaker 5: Javonte Williams better.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. We'll see an left me with a

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Speaker 5: little clipanger. So that was the question all through every

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Speaker 5: single person in the locker room is the comments made

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Speaker 5: by the Rica Daddle talking about they need to buckle

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Speaker 5: up and things like that. Everybody was pretty chill on

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Speaker 5: the responsibitides Kenny Clark, which is hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I was surprised.

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Speaker 5: That you must not see us. Kenny's hilarious, But I

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Speaker 5: feel like I'm more excited to see the running backs.

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Speaker 5: Who's gonna show out more because I feel like he's

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Speaker 5: just been talking a little bit of smack both these weeks.

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Speaker 5: But I think establishing the run is just the key

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Speaker 5: for this game, like I thought it was last week,

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Speaker 5: because when you're looking at the DB's, I think there

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Speaker 5: is Tysha's point a lot a couple of places where

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Speaker 5: you couldn't expose outside of j C. Horn Pickings talked

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Speaker 5: about him yesterday and what that matchup looks like and

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Speaker 5: what type of corner he is and you know, but

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Speaker 5: Mike Jackson is a guy who I noted, Uh, he

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Speaker 5: ain't doing so good. He's getting pretty exposed, and he

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Speaker 5: got very much exposed. I think he gave up a

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Speaker 5: forty two yard chunk play to Wattle last week that

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Speaker 5: ended up in a touchdown. His overall grade is forty

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Speaker 5: two point five. In his coverage like he's he's struggling,

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Speaker 5: and I feel like that's kind of what we saw

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Speaker 5: last week. There was like one strong corner that everybody

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Speaker 5: else was just kind of like, you know, so you

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Speaker 5: know who's going to be following, and you know where

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Speaker 5: the weak spots are going to be. But I think

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Speaker 5: the best part about this offense, and what Pickens was

755
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Speaker 5: asked about, is like, how how much does Davonte Williams

756
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Speaker 5: do when he does help you guys? He's like, it's everything.

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Speaker 5: So I think keeping them on their toes again, mixing

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Speaker 5: up some of these receivers in the past game as well.

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Speaker 5: I think everything is going the way the Cowboys want,

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Speaker 5: so really shot. He could come out slinging the ball,

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Speaker 5: but I do feel like he's going to start establishing

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Speaker 5: the run. It just makes the most It's what he's

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Speaker 5: kind of been doing for recipes success.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 4: I want to say that Mike Jackson was Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 6: Michael Jackson was drafted by the Cowboys in the fifth

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Speaker 6: round in twenty nineteen. It's a little bit of a

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Speaker 6: revenge game for him too, because they was like, he

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Speaker 6: ain't getting no revenge on nobody else so far.

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Speaker 4: This is you're going to jail.

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Speaker 5: The door she's going to I just want to say

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Speaker 5: she's going to jail.

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Speaker 6: But in regard to another point about this, uh, this

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Speaker 6: Panther's defense is that they've allowed twenty four points in

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Speaker 6: five and how many games they played one to five

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Speaker 6: and four out of the five games that they have played.

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Speaker 6: Also to uh, they will give up a lot of

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Speaker 6: passing yards. I mean they gave up two hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty two a Miami offense that has been struggling.

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Speaker 4: The second part of it that makes me happy.

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Speaker 6: Inside, what is the girl please, is that the Panthers

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Speaker 6: run zone at the second highest clipping the NFL.

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Speaker 4: You know what they second too? Guess who they're second to?

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Speaker 3: Who?

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Speaker 5: It's killing me first?

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Speaker 4: It hurts.

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Speaker 6: So their second and guess who has the second highest passer,

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Speaker 6: Rayy pres.

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Speaker 5: You're good.

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Speaker 6: You're killing it right now, let's go eighty percent completion rate,

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Speaker 6: six touchdowns. I mean, Dak Prescott has been nails against

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Speaker 6: zone coverages, and if you're not able to get pressure

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Speaker 6: on him consistently, he's gonna make you pay. So to

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Speaker 6: your point, Nicole, you know how you were asking like,

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Speaker 6: what do you think Dallas is gonna do? I think

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Speaker 6: they're gonna run the game, run the ball, to keep

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Speaker 6: honest and to play keep away. But if the quarterback,

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Speaker 6: if they think that they just gonna drive back and

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Speaker 6: play vision defense, the quarterback's gonna make them pay. And

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Speaker 6: that makes me happy in time, So I expect for

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Speaker 6: Dallas to maybe be aggressive and attack and attack, attacking

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Speaker 6: this Panther secondary. However, I will say the Panthers have

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Speaker 6: been a better team at home, undefeated at home. They

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Speaker 6: are obviously trying to build some momentum.

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Speaker 4: We might see them change it up a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure, but you stick they playing against company,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'd be like, let's try this. So that's

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Speaker 6: something that I think is important when we're talking about

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Speaker 6: if Dallas gonna run the ball more, are they gonna

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Speaker 6: pass the ball more bebbe.

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Speaker 4: There should be grass for the quarterback. It should be

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Speaker 3: look at the tape where it's the biggest schimatic mismatch.

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Speaker 4: You see, is the receivers for their dbs?

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Speaker 2: Is it our interior offensive line against the Panthers front?

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Speaker 2: Is it DAK versus their coverage diskuys.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I would say is that I would say that

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Speaker 6: has rushed the passer at a high clip or been

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Speaker 6: successful really doing that. And the zone covers they play

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Speaker 6: on the back end ain't helping them either.

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Speaker 4: It's so funny looking at.

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Speaker 6: The man in the mirror, please because that's what I

877
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 6: was thinking when I was watching them last night, was like, Oh,

878
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 6: their secondary is struggling because they're not getting pressure with four,

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00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 6: but they're not really willing to change up much on

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Speaker 6: that side either. I think it would be your quarterbacks

881
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 6: good against zone and they play a lot of zone.

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Speaker 4: Your offensive line I can hold up. They don't pressure

883
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Speaker 4: that much.

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Speaker 6: Your offense passing offense against their defense is probably the

885
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Speaker 6: biggest mismatch to me, what you.

886
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Speaker 5: Got three Panthers are thirtieth in the league in pressure

887
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 5: for a reason. Like I used to just said, there's

888
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 5: a couple of week spots that I think Dak prop,

889
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 5: Dak prop. What am I doing here?

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Speaker 2: We know what you.

891
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Speaker 5: I had faith it was coming off, but I was,

892
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 5: I was she stole mine when I was thinking about Black,

893
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: But Dak just reading the field unbelievably, like unbelievably, But

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00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 5: I guess I'll go with my second one.

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Speaker 4: Aysha.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned it. They're struggling with the tight ends in general,

897
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 5: and guess what, we had a tight end who's kind

898
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 5: of a on a comeback. Here he's found find the

899
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 5: end zone again. I know he didn't even just showing

900
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 5: off now, he didn't even know to do it hisself

901
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: on this screen.

902
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: He was like, first of all, what is love with

903
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: all these George Pickens gets on this team and they.

904
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 5: Got all the dances, all the that he had, like

905
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 5: forty handshakes. That was a question.

906
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Speaker 4: He's like yeah.

907
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 5: He's like someone said, do you remember all of them?

908
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 5: And then he's like, what's the one you do with

909
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: Dak And he went like this and they're like somebody said,

910
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 5: what does this mean. He's like, it's my number three

911
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 5: and I was like, I already wrapping this up.

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Speaker 6: Bro.

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Speaker 5: We were laughing. So, like I said, Pickens is having

914
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Speaker 5: fun and someone also asked, yesterday, it's just like this

915
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: is just being here makes me. He's like, I'm always

916
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 5: having fun in the field. I was having fun where

917
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 5: I was at, but the narrative was I wasn't having

918
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: fun and I was just like, it's still on business

919
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 5: here as well. But it's fun to watch y'all, Like, Yeah,

920
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: their safeties will come up and help tackle in the

921
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 5: run game too.

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Speaker 4: I think, I don't know which one of you ladies

923
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: mentioned that, but their dbs will come up and help

924
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: tackle in the run game too.

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Speaker 6: So to your point, like the tight ends, and brother

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Speaker 6: span Ford is a guy that I think, in regard

927
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Speaker 6: to what Breees point is, if you want to get

928
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Speaker 6: another tight end involved, I think this would be a

929
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Speaker 6: good time to kind of acclimate another tight end into

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Speaker 6: the receiving game.

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Speaker 7: We haven't seen much from schoolmakers every week.

932
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Speaker 5: Then we haven't seen.

933
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Speaker 4: Much because they're blocking.

934
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Speaker 5: It's because it's because.

935
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Speaker 4: They're chipping and blocking and all that stuff.

936
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Speaker 6: But maybe since since the Panthers are not a team

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Speaker 6: that gets a crap ton of pass rush, maybe this

938
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Speaker 6: is a game where you don't have to come in

939
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Speaker 6: and chip and have your running backs and stuff have

940
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 6: to help so much with these tackles, maybe you can

941
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 6: get you know, some down the field shots to your

942
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 6: tight ends in this game. You need to now, I mean,

943
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 6: you take what you can. You take what you can

944
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 6: get because they're still trying to they're still finding out.

945
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Speaker 4: Ways to attack the middle of the defense with the slants,

946
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 4: with the crossers, with the overs, like they're still.

947
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Speaker 6: Figuring out ways, but man, that see that seam is

948
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 6: there for the taking, and I really hope that they

949
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Speaker 6: figure out how to get it.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully we can see a touchdown with that scene ball

951
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 7: this week, because that's how.

952
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Speaker 6: It looking, cause it'd be like it's a straight line

953
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 6: pass and your quarterback throws it better than almost any

954
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 6: quarterback in the league. Right now, you need a tight end,

955
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Speaker 6: the whole one of them.

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00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: Yes, Zaida's girl, I see you, I see you, he

957
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 4: was saying it, see what I seen.

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Speaker 5: Don't feel.

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Speaker 2: Well. Tomorrow we're gonna dive more into the film.

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Speaker 3: Got Christy Scales joining the show on Fridays, every Friday

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Speaker 3: and Monday. But that's a wrap for today's show. For

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Speaker 3: Beyond Aldridge A Ashan Morrison, I'm Nicole Hedgerson.

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Speaker 2: We'll see y'all back here tomorrow.

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