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I hope you guys love it. 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what's Tom dare. Hey, we gotta go here, 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: we gotta go. 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Let's go, so Tim Week twelve Viking Fans Bears Week. 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: I know we're coming off of disappointment, but it's time 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: to get right right before the bye. And joining me 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: to discuss whether that will be a possibility for our 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: beloved Vikings is Diehard Bears fan Matt Jones. Matt, thank 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: you for joining the show. 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: Man, Hey, thanks for having me. 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I think everyone in our 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: fan base is looking at this and probably everyone in 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: your fan base is looking at this game as a 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: no brainer, get right. This is a when the Vikings 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: can get going into the by I think there's a 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: lot of people that have checked the box. And I 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it's my pessimistic fan brain, I don't 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: know what it is, but I have serious concerns going 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: into this week despite the product that your favorite team 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: has put the on the field all year with fields 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: coming back last week and I know that was an 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: epic collapse, but they did. They looked pretty good for 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: a vast majority of the game. 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: Look. I one thing that the Bears and Vikings have 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: really always had in common is we both really know 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: how to lose, Like they really know how to lose games. 35 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: We should really win. It's unbelievable. It's really funny. I'm 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: actually kind of a a reluctant Vikings fan as well, 37 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: because my wife, she her dad, and brothers and brother 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: are massive Vikings fans. Like her dad is the biggest 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: Vikings fan, Like he wears Vikings putties and shirts to everything, 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: Like at a funeral, he'll be in a Vikings sweather 41 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: maybe a black Viking sweatsher, but it'll still say Vikings 42 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: on it. So he's a massive Vikings fan. And he 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: and I have watched games together, like he was there. 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: We watched the double Doink Bear Bears game together, and 45 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: then we watched the the other Viking Kicker collapse in 46 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: the playoffs a couple of years ago, you. 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, the Blairwash, the Blairwash disaster. 48 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we text each other, you know, it's just 49 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: I understand when the Vikings lose by a little because 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: we do it all the time. 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was. We're both coming off the heels 52 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: of exactly what you just said, hurting because of losing 53 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: a game we should not have lost. That's what we're both. 54 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: We're both jumping off. But before I ask you anything else, 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: I can't. I could do an entire show on people 56 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I know who have worn Vikings memorabilia to important moments, graduations, weddings, funerals. 57 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: I have family members that if they show up to 58 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: a wedding not in Minnesota Vikings crocs, I almost have 59 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: to ask them what's wrong. 60 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: It's like, if you're a Raiders fan, sure, I get it. 61 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: Even a Patriots fan, Vikings colors could not be more loud. 62 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: You could see a Vikings fan from fifty yards away. 63 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: It's insane how loud. The colors are I mean, we 64 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 2: got the Lakers here in LA. I'm actually a Lakers fan, 65 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: and you know, it's just is equally ugly. They're just 66 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, they're just not beautiful colors. 67 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: It's really obnoxious. They are really, really, really obnoxious colors 68 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: that people wear incredibly proudly. 69 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 70 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: The other thing we have in common is a long 71 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: and you guys more so than us and I never 72 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: get to say that to somebody, but a long, comical 73 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: rotation of quarterbacks. 74 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: It's it's insane. 75 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: It's crazy, this thing where Justin Fields was gonna be 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: the answer and now he might not be the answer. 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: And now I told you before the show, I think 78 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: you might be one of the most interesting teams in 79 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: the league. I know that might not make sense to 80 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: some people, but to have the Panthers pick and your 81 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: pick to potentially have the top two picks in a 82 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: draft that has two really really good quarterbacks, well you 83 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: also have a maybe guy on your roster. What a 84 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: weird What a weird scenario. The Bears are in. 85 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: Also, we have a ton of cap space. It's just 86 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: a really I don't know, it looks like the coach 87 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: might get fired I don't know, he might not like 88 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: I like what Ryan Poles our gam is doing in 89 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: a lot of ways, but he had to really start 90 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: from nothing, like they really cleaned house, and I just 91 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: feel that I don't know. This is a longer discussion 92 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: of how often does a number one pick quarterback work out? Like, 93 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: how often does that really work out? Pretty rarely? 94 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: Not a ton? Yeah, it's shockingly not a ton. 95 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it just I mean c J. Stroud number two, 96 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: he looks pretty amazing. That That is as close as 97 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: I can think of in quite a while where a 98 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: number one really worked out. But then I think a 99 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: number one like Miles Garrett, that's who I want as 100 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: a Bears fan. I love Bears defenses, I love Bears 101 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: d We just don't have any like monsters in the 102 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: midway anymore. We just don't. It just doesn't feel like. 103 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: It is that like a psychology thing? Is that? Because 104 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: I know I have a lot of friends who are 105 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Bears fan and I have most of my Bears fan 106 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: friends are more proud of the linebackers you guys have 107 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: had than their own children. 108 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know. It's something about 109 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how old you are. But 110 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: like the Bill Romanowski days, like when linebackers were scary people, 111 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: you know, when they really hurt each other. And the 112 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: Bears just always had players like that for so long. 113 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: And I think we do have some really great young 114 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: defensive players. It's just we don't have like that superstar 115 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: like we always have had like that, just you know, 116 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: like when we had Khalil Mack was really fun, or 117 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: Julius Peppers. 118 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Well, to go from Brian Urlacker to Khalil Mack and 119 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: it's almost this different position, but so rare in the NFL, 120 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: like going from Brett farv Darreon Rodgers. You don't just 121 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: see hall of fame player hand a position off to 122 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: another hall of fame player within an organization very often. 123 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: Well like the Vikings when you guys, when I knows 124 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: Randall Cunningham and Chris Carter and Randy mosson that, like 125 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: it was the coolest offense at that time, We've never 126 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: had that ever. No, we've met like in a hundred years. 127 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say, you haven't, you haven't, 128 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: probably haven't had And it's funny. Jim McMahon is the 129 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: guy that everybody talks about but if you know true 130 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Bears fans and people really follow football, No, you know 131 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: this is not a slight on Jim McMahon, but it was. 132 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: I think you and I could have quarterbacked and tight 133 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: end did that off like you almost could have punted 134 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: every time. That's how comical that defense was. So it's 135 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: it does have to be weird to be living in 136 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: the era of modern NFL offense when defense has been 137 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: a century long calling card for you guys. 138 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jim mcmannon is he was like a 139 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: quarterback who was like a linebacker. You know what I mean, 140 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, is that a linebacker. I'm not thrilled 141 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: about being a Bears fan. I have kids, and my 142 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: son turned to me the other day, he's like, why 143 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: are we Bears fans? You're so upset. It's like, I 144 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: don't know, man, you could be whoever you want to be. 145 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: You go be a any kind of fan you want. 146 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm done dragging dragging people. 147 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: Down, bringing your children into your misery. 148 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I get so deep into it and I 149 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: just get so upset. 150 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will tell you though, I think there's a 151 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: chance hear me out. Let me pitch you. Let me 152 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: a Vikings fan pitch you on the Bears because of 153 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: what you said, Because they have a ton of cap room, 154 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people who think the cap 155 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: is going to go up right, and you have these 156 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: top two picks, you have other picks throughout other rounds. 157 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Like I think the NFL isn't like the NBA. In 158 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: the NBA, there are only a few cities players want 159 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: to go to. There aren't guaranteed contracts. The salary cap 160 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: has the luxury tax. They don't even have a salary 161 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: cap in baseball. So the salary cap is the true. 162 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: It is the true like just even or outer that's equalize. 163 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. You want the look if I 164 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: knowing this show is not a video show, if you 165 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: would have seen the look on my eyes as I 166 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: was searching for the word equalizer, I have never felt 167 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: more like one of my cousins and Viking crocs at 168 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: a wedding. Well, you know, cause it's even outer her. 169 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: So the true even or outer her is the salary cap. 170 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: And I think NFL teams, if done correctly, can not 171 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: just turn themselves around in a couple of years, but 172 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: can contend in a couple of years. So if you 173 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: to your point, I'm also a big believer that the 174 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: biggest differentiator now I'm rolling with words. The biggest differentiator 175 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: in the league is getting a superstar on a rookie contract. 176 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: Like had the Cowboys not drafted Micah Parsons, we wouldn't 177 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: even be They would be a disaster over there. They 178 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: have one of the best defensive players in the league 179 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: for multiple years on a rookie deal. If you guys 180 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: go and you get a Miles Garrett with one of 181 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: the top couple picks, a guy of that level, and 182 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: you get an offensive stud even a quarterback, and then 183 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: you have a good quarterback on a rookie deal and 184 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: a stud defender and all this cap room. That's the 185 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: cool thing about the NFL. You might be two years away. 186 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: And I also am a fan of Ryan Poles, and 187 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, I'm just not out on 188 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: the future of the Bears like everybody else seems to be. 189 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that when I think of the 190 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: happiest times as a Bears fan, for me, it's when 191 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: we had a culture and we had you know, you're 192 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: just like love you as our coach. I love, lovey 193 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: love you as our coach and then we've just been 194 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 2: searching for a coach since then. It just every two 195 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: to three years we get a new coach. And I 196 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: just want a coach to stick more than the players, 197 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: because you know, look at Belichick, look at Mike Tomlin, 198 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: you look at all these guys. You know, if we 199 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: had a coach, even like a Jim Harbaugh for fifteen 200 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: twenty years, that it just takes care of so much 201 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: other things because that's what your team is. Your team 202 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: is that thing now, and now we need players to 203 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: be a part of that thing. And it feels like 204 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: we've been drafting players to figure out what the team is. 205 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: And you're like, no, these are twenty two year olds. 206 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: Let's you know what I mean? These are also do 207 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: you ever think about how much we're churing on children. 208 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm just so obsessed with this one year old. 209 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: There's nothing it's been because you and I think are 210 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: about the same age, and it is a hard transition. Yeah, 211 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: to move into NFL retirement age. Yeah, Like I'm right 212 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: in that, have my press conference age. Yeah, And that's 213 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: that's hard because now you're like, come on, twenty four 214 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: year old don't ruin my day. 215 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. My son's like, oh, how long ago to 216 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: Gronk retire? I was like a couple of years ago. 217 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: He's like, is he older than you? I was like, no, no, 218 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: he's much younger than me. Gronk is younger than me. 219 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: No. 220 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: But I just want us to get a coach and 221 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: a GM that works together well, and then we build 222 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: players from there. I think that is if you're really 223 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: rebuilding over the long haul. You know, like any quarterback, 224 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: you can get the greatest quarterback in the world, and 225 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: you know, you can tear a his acl and then 226 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: that's the end, and then you have nothing. So then 227 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: you need a coach and a culture. 228 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: It's the Tomlin effect. It's the patriot It's like, I 229 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: know the Patriots are struggling right now, but it's the 230 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: old niners. Put the put the big machine in place, yes, 231 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: and then let the big machine take care of all 232 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: the tasks. 233 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: You know. 234 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: I was I was dating this woman when I was younger, 235 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: and I was talking about she's great, great person, but 236 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: it just I was talking to my mom and I said, 237 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think I just don't think it's working out. 238 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: I go, there's a lot of comfort there. It's really nice, 239 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: it's really easy, but I go, but I don't feel 240 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: the spark. And I remember my mom basically going, oh, 241 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: you're a really stupid person. Comfort. Comfort is everything. And 242 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: I think about that when you said the Lovey Smith thing, 243 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: that's a sports thing that happens all the time where 244 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: you're always looking for like that big flash and spark 245 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: and and like with Lovey Smith, Lovey Smith provided something 246 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: like you said that you guys haven't had since and 247 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: you've kind of been on that. I don't know how 248 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: many it's been, but it feels like every couple of years, 249 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: you guys are like, what if we got a new 250 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: GM and coach? Yeah, every couple of years. 251 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: It's so silly. And also, like you guys, I really 252 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: like your coach, you know, I think she's I think 253 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: she is the young thing of what I'm talking about. 254 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: Like some people, you're like, oh, man, you're such a 255 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: great offensive coordinator, and then you make him a head 256 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: coach and the team inplodes. You're like, just keep him 257 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator. That's what he's good at. 258 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I'm pitching right now, cause I 259 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: love I love where your brain's going, Matt, and let 260 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: me pitch you an even dumber idea. I this Brian 261 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: Flores thing in Minnesota right now. 262 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: I know, I know, it's interesting, it's it's. 263 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: Bananas, yea, to have him having blitzweights that are historic 264 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: and doing it with guy no one has ever heard of. 265 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they gave up that late touchdown against the Broncos, 266 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: but that was outrageous. That they're doing that without their 267 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: leading tackler, you know, without their biggest free agency and 268 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: it's bananas. I think, give him whatever he wants money 269 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: and let's be the first NFL team to have co 270 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: head coaches. Oh, let's very very dumb. No one's gonna 271 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: get on board with it. 272 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: And this is a pretty stupid idea, to be honest. 273 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: It's such a stupid idea. But all I can think 274 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: about is, I'm like, so, Brian Flores is doing this 275 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: with this group of dudes, right, So if he can 276 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: do that with that, what happens with some investment, what 277 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: happens with some time being allowed to really develop some 278 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: of the young talent. I mean, he's gonna be a 279 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: head coach. 280 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: He interviewed for the Bears when Eberflus is hired, and 281 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: I don't know why I would have rather. I think 282 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: all of us would have rather. 283 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: An I say, give him whatever money he wants, let 284 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: him work together as some weird duo coach like dual 285 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: coach system, and I don't want to lose him. That's 286 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: there's something about when you cause you're it's we have 287 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: the opposite. You've had defenses forever. We did have one 288 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: with with Mike Zimmer, but we our defenses come around 289 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: like solar eclipse right right, So it feels pretty nice 290 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm willing to do something really stupid to 291 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: keep him around. 292 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah. Also we have so much like 293 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: Tyson Pagent m hmm. I think has not gotten his 294 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: fair shake of like going too and two and I 295 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: don't want to hear anything about him being a Division 296 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: two quarterback for any rookie quarterback, Going too and two 297 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: in the middle of the season is really good. And 298 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: he almost won another one of those games, and if 299 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: he would have, I don't know, had time with the 300 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: ones in the offseason everything. I think he could be 301 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: a serviceable quarterback for another team. He probably will at 302 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: some point, but we have a great backup for the 303 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: next three years on a rookie deal. Who's going or 304 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: maybe he only I know he's undrafted. I don't know 305 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: what his deal is. But yeah, but regardless, we found 306 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: a really good backup quarterback. But yes, there's no reason 307 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 2: he couldn't be a Kirk Cousins at some point. Kirk 308 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: Cousins was not great his first couple of years in Washington. 309 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: He was, you know, a rookie quarterback. I just there's 310 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: so much pressure on rookie quarterbacks. It's just it's. 311 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: Ridiculous, especially in today's NFL, where it's get him in, 312 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: get him playing right away. I couldn't agree more. My 313 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: dad and I were watching him, and situation has so 314 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: much influence. 315 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 316 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: Over, I mean, there are some guys like you look 317 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: at CJ. Stroud, you mentioned him, and you're like, well, 318 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: this dude's a game breaker now, now I he that's 319 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: one of my favorite coaches in the league down there. 320 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He's a great linebacker two man. 321 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: He was, and such a good defensive coordinator. Yeah he was. 322 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm very happy with Kevin O'Connell. When we first started looking, 323 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: Demico Ryans was top of my list. Yeah, but I 324 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: think CJ. Stroud is special, and I think he's special 325 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: in almost any environment he's put into. But so many 326 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: of these guys, You're a product of your situation, your opportunity, 327 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: your surroundings, and for you guys to be you know, 328 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: going into the season, I think there are a lot 329 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: of people that thought, well, the Bears are going to 330 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: be the worst team in the NFL. That was a possibility. 331 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: So you take this guy who walked into that like 332 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season with no time in 333 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: the office. I was flabbergasted that you guys went to Yeah, 334 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: I'll sound like a rambling idiot, but I feel the 335 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: exact same way. Give that dude all the credit in 336 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: the world for what he did. 337 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: I will say, as a prognosticator of you know, Bear's lower, uh, 338 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: we will do the most bearst thing ever. I guarantee 339 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: in the next six games, will probably win four of them. 340 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: When it doesn't matter it's just you know, lower our 341 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: draft pick. We're gonna win probably four games. We might 342 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: beat you guys next week, Like it's that kind of 343 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: trap game. You should you should win, Vikings should win. 344 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: But if you go to any Vikings or Bears history, 345 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: that it's it's a coin toss. He really is. Our 346 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: defense is starting to look really good because they're healthy, 347 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: and our offense is you know, it's a it's a 348 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: coin toss. You never know, you really never know. 349 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's just I've we've played the Bears enough 350 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: in my life for me to not have any hopes 351 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: about any and unfortunately we've already handled the soldier soldier 352 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: field situation where we walk in there and with a 353 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: good team and go, oh, I guess we're gonna lose 354 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: to this three win squad. But I yeah, I it 355 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me at all if you guys went on 356 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: a run, but it would devastate me as a Bears fan. 357 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: There has it ever? Has it ever happened where a 358 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: team has had the first and second pick, you know, 359 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: without trading and creating. I mean, that can't have been 360 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: a thing before, and that that would be so to 361 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: deal with a shit season. 362 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: I feel like the Texan it was like the Texans 363 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: or the Cardinals did it a couple of years ago 364 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: where they had. 365 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: The Texans had the Texans last season grabbed Yep, they 366 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: went up and got a couple of them. But I 367 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: don't know that anybody's ever had one too. I mean, 368 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: that would be you go, oh, my football team, at 369 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: least in their opinion, gets the two best football players 370 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: in the entire draft. That would be something to get 371 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: really excited about. 372 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if I think if we got if 373 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: we had let's say number one and number five, which 374 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: probably is what it's going to be, I would I 375 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: would trade the first pick. We got so much out 376 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: of our first pick this year we got we got 377 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: DJ Moore out of it. It was, you know, yep, superstar. 378 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: I would trade the first pick. I would take Drake 379 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: May at five, and then uh, you know, and then 380 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: whatever pick we got, we'd probably get somewhere around it 381 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: between a ten and fifteen pick and get a great 382 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: someone great for defense. This Marvin Harrison, this Marvin Harrison 383 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: talk is we've not It's just I don't think. I 384 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: don't we don't need a wide receiver. We don't. We 385 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: don't need it as bad as we need everything else. 386 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and with the way the with the way the 387 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: NFL seems to be evolving wide receiver, what a I'm 388 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: such an idiot. I don't know anything about anything, but 389 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: it seems that the guys that you really struggle to 390 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: find the offensive and defensive lineman if you have a 391 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: chance at the best one of those dudes. For me, 392 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm always taking the best one of those and I'm 393 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: hoping that I can snag an aman Ro Saint Brown 394 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Yeah, that's always my hope. 395 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get you. There's always great wide receivers 396 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: in the second and third round. 397 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: I just can we take one moment and just as 398 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: a duo, just even though they won on Sunday, can 399 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: we both just revel in the destruction that is the 400 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: Packer fan base's emotions right now? Isn't it sweet? 401 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: It's that's that's my point. I have a a friend 402 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: of mine, I'm Sam Richardson. He's an actor, ye Tim Robinson. 403 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: They're huge Detroit Lions fans, and I have Vikings fans. 404 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions fans all of us kill. All we can 405 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: agree is just we all root for each other at 406 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: this point. I don't know if we're all just been 407 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: so hurt over the last twenty years, but we generally 408 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: root for each other's teams. I won't last night, it 409 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: wasn't that mad. We lost to the Lions. I mean 410 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: in spectacular fashion, of course, but you know I'm rooting 411 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: for the Lions. I like Dan Campbell. It's literally anyone 412 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: but the Packers, like anyone. I just hate the Packers 413 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: so much. I was at the game when it was 414 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: negative ten below. It was negative ten. We all we 415 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: have to do is win the game and we're in 416 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs and it's us versus the Packers, and Aaron 417 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 2: Rodgers went the length of the field I think, converted 418 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: three fourth down three fourth down conversions in a row, 419 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: and then over the top to Ranal Cobb to win 420 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: the game, and we and it was snowing and to 421 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: walk out of Soldier Field in silence. Everyone was No 422 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: one was mad or angry. It was just quiet, quiet 423 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: hatred for the Packers. Everybody was just like I hate 424 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: them so much. How why do they get to do 425 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: that over and over again? Why do they get to 426 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 2: do that? And it's not just Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre too, like, 427 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: it's just it was so long, it was so long. 428 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I hate them, like no, Now, Jordan Love might end 429 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: up being a perennial Pro Bowl player, Like we never 430 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: know how guys are gonna turn out. But right now, 431 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: I think the expectations that a lot of Packers fans had, like, well, 432 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: we'll just send Aaron off and then we'll plug Jordan 433 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: in and then we're just gonna keep this. We're gonna 434 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: keep this Green and Gold train cruising. 435 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: And the arrogance, the arrogance of Packers fans that they 436 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: that they didn't even realize they had. How do you 437 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: not know Aaron Rodgers however you want to feel about it, whatever, 438 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: He's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. He 439 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: just yes, And they had they just they just threw 440 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: them away like they weren't even upsetting was leaving what 441 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: It is wild to. 442 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: Me the ego, the ego that existed there to be like, 443 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: we're done with you. Where in our fan basis, if 444 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: somebody was that good would be like, do you want 445 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: to come to my house and slap my dad in 446 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: the face, Because I'm fine with that. You can do 447 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: whatever you want. 448 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: If we had an Aaron, If we had an Aaron, 449 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: if Aaron Rodgers right now came to the Bears, he 450 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: could start his own religion in Chicago. People would worship unbelievable, 451 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: Oh my god, they would love him even now now 452 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: after all the Packers stuff, they don't care. We want 453 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback so bad. 454 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: A Hall of Fame quarterback towards the end of their 455 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: run is a lot like that uncle that you have 456 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: that comes with It's Thanksgiving week. So it's a lot 457 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: like that uncle you have that comes to Thanksgiving and 458 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: you really don't like anything he has to say. But 459 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: but you know, you're, like, man, he did build that 460 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: whole business, and he's already retired, and I'm just gonna 461 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: have to I'm just gonna have to shut up and 462 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: respect it. 463 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: That far Vikings run was really fun. That was fun. 464 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: I know everybody talked about it a lot. But the sweet, 465 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: amazing feeling that would have existed had we pulled off 466 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, Yeah, I don't even know how to 467 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to put it into words, 468 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: because you'd have won it with their guy the same 469 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: amount with their guy, and that would have been because 470 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: what all Packers fans do is they like to lean 471 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: on their history, you know, as though they've been touched 472 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: by the football heavens uh. And it would have been 473 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: really nice to take a piece of their history and 474 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: be like us two. And it only in one year 475 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: US two. So that was but it was fun all 476 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: the way through. It was. It was really really fun too. 477 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not generally a big trash talker, 478 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: but the amount I ran my mouth at Packer fans 479 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: that season is nearly criminal. 480 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: I was watching this Sports Center the other day and 481 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: like they showed some Jordan Love clip and it like 482 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: he threw some you know, across the middle twenty yard 483 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: pass and guy caught it, and the announcer goes, land 484 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: Love will find a Way, and I was like, oh, man, 485 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: I hate the Packers. I hate them. 486 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: Also, I love a guy who put something in his 487 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: notebook three months ago he finally got to use it. 488 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: He's just in front of his mirror. 489 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: He's so so happy when they got rid of Rogers, 490 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: just so he could say that. 491 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: I've been sitting on this level find a Way for 492 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: two and a half years. You just find out how 493 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: uncreative all these play by play guys are. Well, I uh, 494 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't like playing against a 495 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: guy like Justin Fields because he's throughout the entirety of 496 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: his existence, He's a guy who one week he'd be like, well, 497 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: obviously we're gonna beat that quarterback, and the next week 498 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: he just does enough to terrify you, like if you 499 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: watched I actually watched three quarters of that Lions Bears 500 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: game and then turned it off and thought, oh man, 501 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: we just got some serious help wrong. But throughout it 502 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: Fields was doing just enough to like break your spirit 503 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: if you were the other team fan. And so that's 504 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: what worries me is if you let Justin Fields hang 505 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: around with his legs and his scrappiness, he can do much, 506 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: just enough to break your soul, and the vikings are 507 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that Justin Jefferson will be back and 508 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're banged up and they're trying to 509 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: put it together. You know, I would like us. I'd 510 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: like a nice pick six to start, or some sort 511 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: of disaster. If you could ship us some early I 512 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: think it would make both of us happy. You're trying 513 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: to get picks, I'm trying to get a win. If 514 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: we could get an early game disaster, that would be 515 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: That would lower my blood pressure a little bit. 516 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: You guys are pretty banged up on defense, but we 517 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: are also a pretty inept football team most of the time, 518 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I'm gonna probably drink through 519 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: the game like I do most At this point, every 520 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: game feels like we're watching tape for scouting, like that's it, 521 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: Just like, oh, yeah, who do we want to keep? 522 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: Like that's It's the whole reason for football games is 523 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: who do we want to keep for next year? 524 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Ten weeks of evaluation? 525 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: So hard to watch. But I think Josh Dobbs is 526 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: a really fun story. 527 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: Yes. 528 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: I mean sometimes when someone goes to so many teams 529 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: in so short a time, you're like, there is a 530 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: reason for that, But also, you lost your quarterback, so 531 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: what else are you supposed to do? 532 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy fun and it's I'm really curious. 533 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: You know. 534 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: People were really high on him, and then a couple 535 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: turnovers last night and some people were down on him. 536 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: I am just waiting to get to the by, to 537 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: get Justin Jefferson back, and then let's really see it. 538 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: Because dumb fans like us going like, oh, you're like 539 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: this dude, I realize that he's really really bright and 540 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: he can learn at a fast rate. There's no way 541 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: he understands all the complexities of this offense. There's no 542 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: way the playbook is fully opened. Up to take all 543 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: the shots they want to take. So I'm looking forward 544 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: to seeing who Josh Dobbs really is us starting after 545 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: the buye. Right now, I just think it's the most 546 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: fun thing in the world, and we'll see where it 547 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: goes from there. 548 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: So there's a thing last night of or yesterday, Justin 549 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: Fields threw a bomb to DJ Moore in the end 550 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: zone and it was beautiful throw, great play. The only 551 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: reason they can do that is because they've worked together 552 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: a ton. He knows exactly how fast djmore runs. They've 553 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: timed this route out over and over again. He did 554 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: a similar route in that game. We would have won 555 00:30:54,840 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: the game had Tyler Scott caught the ball. But also 556 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: the same thing, and Tyler Scott after the game was like, 557 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: you know, I didn't run through the whole route. It's 558 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: my fault. The ball was in the perfect place. I 559 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: hesitated just a second and then I couldn't get there 560 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: in time. So they work on this timing, you know, 561 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: And to have a quarterback just come in, you can't 562 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: just make that stuff up. It takes away the deep ball, 563 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: does all these things like the insanely hard job of 564 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback, which I think is the hardest position in 565 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: all of sports. Someone like Josh Obbs or Tyson Pagent. 566 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: It just the fact that they don't just sit down 567 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: and cry is amazing, you know what I mean, Like 568 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: they don't like it's not Christian Ponder, you know what 569 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Like, you know, it's it's not Rex Grossman. 570 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: It's not people that had time in the offseason and 571 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: then still still came in and you know, bummed it up. 572 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: I just think Josh Josh Dobbs is super super fun 573 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: to watch. 574 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I dude, I couldn't agree more. I'm gonna make 575 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: you We're gonna close it on this. Everybody hates it, 576 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: you're not gonna love it, but I we've got to 577 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: do a score prediction. So I'm gonna make you give 578 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: a score prediction for the game for this Sunday, and 579 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: then we'll let you get out of here. Man. 580 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say it's gonna be one. That's twelve, 581 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: Vikings twenty seven, Bears twenty. 582 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: I think I think the defenses are gonna come to play. 583 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Bears thirteen, Vikings one hundred and thirty eight. 584 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with one hundred and thirty. It seems 585 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: like a reasonable prediction. 586 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: If that makes sense. 587 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing. 588 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: It man, Hey, no problem. 589 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks again to Matt Jones for joining the show, 590 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: and thank you to our sponsor Continental Diamond. Remember there's full, 591 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 1: longer episodes of The Tailgate on all your favorite podcast apps, 592 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: so please make sure to like, subscribe, and download the 593 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: podcast anywhere you listen to your favorite shows. We will 594 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: see you all again next week. 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